Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Closing the Right Deals: Why Everyone Isn't Your Customer
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- 0:01Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 0:04I solve sales and marketing challenges.
- 0:07I'm making today's podcast recording at home.
- 0:09It's the evening so the whole family is around.
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- 0:14Now, the goal of this podcast is business education.
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- 0:31And if you, dear listener, have any sales and marketing
- 0:34questions, bring them to me. You can call, you can SMS, you
- 0:37can WhatsApp me on 08064662140. Now today on the podcast, I want
- 0:46us to look at this question. Can you sell everyone
- 0:49successfully? Let me repeat what we're going
- 0:53to look at today on the podcast. Can you sell everyone
- 0:56successfully? Now, why am I talking this kind
- 0:58of question today is because some people feel bad when they
- 1:02talk to 10 people and then maybe only like 2 people end up paying
- 1:07and they have unrealistic expectations.
- 1:09There's some people who think if you talk to 10 people, you can
- 1:12close nine of them and get good business.
- 1:15There's some people who think it's realistic that if you talk
- 1:17to 10 people that anyhow, sure, I should be able to get money
- 1:21from like 5 of them. So that's the reason why I'm
- 1:23having tackling this question today.
- 1:26Can you sell everyone successfully?
- 1:28Can you sell most people successfully?
- 1:31What realistically is the ratio that we can expect of business
- 1:36to close that If we're talking to 10 people, can we expect to
- 1:39close three? Can we expect, expect to close
- 1:42seven? So what really is good or bad
- 1:47performance when we're looking at, you know, you approach 10
- 1:50people, 20 people, 50 people. Maybe you've last year you spoke
- 1:54to 100 people. How do you know if your
- 1:56performance was good or bad based on the number of people
- 2:00that gave you money? At the end of the day, the
- 2:03answer is, are you guys ready? Here's the magic answer.
- 2:08The answer is it depends. It depends on your experience,
- 2:14how much experience you've had in the game.
- 2:16Somebody who is starting now fresh.
- 2:18Look, to be honest, you don't have the knowledge base, you
- 2:22don't have the business acumen, you don't have the confidence,
- 2:25you don't have the stamina, you don't have the wisdom.
- 2:28You don't have the you understand that somebody who's
- 2:31been in the game like 10 years has.
- 2:33I mean, it is what it is. So it depends what is your
- 2:38experience. It also depends on your skill
- 2:41set. There are some people who have
- 2:43been 1020 years in the game, but they never bothered to upgrade
- 2:49their skill set. They never bothered to learn
- 2:51anything new, no new techniques, no new nothing.
- 2:55So the way they started on day one is the same way that they've
- 2:58just been chilling in year 10, year 15, year 20.
- 3:04My first, my professional background in the beginning was
- 3:08in law. And I tell you that that's one
- 3:10thing that kills lawyers. Some people graduate from law
- 3:13school and never do a thing again to improve themselves.
- 3:16And then they start getting angry when younger people are
- 3:20make any more than them. I mean, yes, you are their
- 3:23senior, but The thing is, since you finished, you didn't do
- 3:26anything. You didn't do masters, you
- 3:29didn't do any professional course, you didn't join
- 3:36Toastmasters, you've not been doing networking.
- 3:39If MBA organizes training, you don't go for it as you have done
- 3:43nothing. Of course, a youngster who has
- 3:47some talent, but the guy is very sharp or the baby is very sharp,
- 3:51very agile, Of course, there's only a matter of time before
- 3:53they will pass you. So it depends how much
- 3:57experience do you have? What is your skill set?
- 4:00How much business argument argument do you have?
- 4:03It also depends on the particular product, the
- 4:06particular service or the particular industry.
- 4:09So let's say I was a brain surgeon and I entered into brain
- 4:11surgery. Now year one, may I forget it,
- 4:15there's no how me year one brain surgery, I will now be doing
- 4:20more than my OGA who's been in business 10 years is just not
- 4:23going to happen like that. This is a highly specialized
- 4:25field and because of how we are in Niger and tenure matters and
- 4:31then plus this is a life and death thing, death thing.
- 4:34So people are afraid. Forget it.
- 4:37There's no how I can come and crash into it as a young brain
- 4:40surgeon and expect that if I talk to 20 people, I will close
- 4:44the deal with 20 of them. So you can see that there are
- 4:48lots of variables. So I honestly can't tell you 2 /
- 4:5310 is good, or 10 / 10 is realistic, or 5 / 10 is what you
- 4:59should be aiming for. I can tell you it depends.
- 5:05So the answer to that question, can you, can you tell everyone
- 5:08successfully? The honest answer is no, you
- 5:11can't. There's nobody who does 10 / 10.
- 5:16I'm telling you with my full chest, there is nobody who does
- 5:2010 / 10. And if somebody tells you that
- 5:24he does 10 / 10, he or she is lying.
- 5:27If I have a conversation with them, I'll tell you how they are
- 5:30fudging the facts. Look, this is 1 common one, at
- 5:34least in America. For people who say they close
- 5:36100%, usually what happens is they have a junior member of the
- 5:40team who does pre qualification. Pre qualification is when you
- 5:45have conversations with somebody to try and figure out who they
- 5:48are, what they need, what the problem is, whether you can help
- 5:51them, whether there's agreement on price and all those sorts of
- 5:54things. So after the junior person does
- 5:56pre qualification, they will now send that person up to Orga and
- 6:00Orga can now close the deal. Of course, in that kind of
- 6:03situation, you can close 10 / 10 is because somebody else has
- 6:06done the work of trying to filter through to make sure who
- 6:09is serious to talk to and who is a time waster.
- 6:13And they make sure that time wasters don't get to your to
- 6:15your table. So please do not be deceived by
- 6:19anybody on the Internet saying that they're closing 10 / 10.
- 6:21It is not possible. Now for people who say they
- 6:25close 10 / 10, there's one person in particular in America.
- 6:29I've heard from other people that that's the thing, somebody
- 6:33else junior in the team is doing qualification and discovery.
- 6:37So the person has already been vetted before they send you to
- 6:39Orgas office. So of course in that case
- 6:41they'll close 10 / 10. In fact, me that given that kind
- 6:45of setup, if there's somebody doing pre qualification for me
- 6:47and I don't close 10 / 10, I'm a bastard.
- 6:50But just no, nobody closes 10 / 10 is not possible.
- 6:55There's nobody on this earth that will talk to 10 people and
- 6:58close everybody or business. And this is the reason why, by
- 7:03the way, I heard this from Brian Tracy, not everybody that you
- 7:08talk to wants what you have. Not everybody needs what you
- 7:13have. Not everybody affords what you
- 7:15have, and not everybody has a sense of urgency over what you
- 7:19have. It is just not possible that if
- 7:22you run into 10 people one after another, that each of them want
- 7:26what you have, need what you have, afford what you have, or
- 7:29have a sense of urgency around it.
- 7:32Take people, these people you know, around the park.
- 7:34That's help your water. Everybody wants a drink, right?
- 7:40But does everybody that the guy or the girl will meet in the
- 7:43park? Does everybody need to have a
- 7:45drink at a particular moment? If it is really hot in the dry
- 7:50season, maybe everybody wants it, maybe everybody needs it.
- 7:52But you know, times are hard in Nigeria.
- 7:55So even though it's only 59, there actually are some people
- 7:59who right now like man, that 59, let me just hold it.
- 8:03You never know. You know, everybody has a 15
- 8:07hour to buy the pure water and some people want it needed.
- 8:10I can afford it. But then they don't have a sense
- 8:11of urgency. They think I'm already at the
- 8:14park. I'll be home in like 1 hour's
- 8:17time. Why should I use this 50 naira?
- 8:20Buy pure water? Now if I hold this 50 naira and
- 8:23tomorrow I add another 50 naira, if I combine it like that, who
- 8:26knows, at the end of the month I should be able to use it and buy
- 8:29rice or a Cara, buy 200 naira Cara or something as a treat.
- 8:35So The thing is something even as basic as water, pure water in
- 8:40the garage that everybody needs. If you sell pure water, not
- 8:44everybody will want it, not everybody will need it, not
- 8:47everybody can afford it, and not everybody has a sense of
- 8:50urgency. So even for pure water, you
- 8:54cannot do 10 / 10. Not possible.
- 8:57That is the reason why there's nobody who does 10 / 10.
- 9:01I repeat, nobody wants. Not everybody wants what you
- 9:05have, not everybody needs what you have, not everybody can
- 9:09afford what you have, and not everybody has a sense of urgency
- 9:12around what you have. So with that knowledge in mind
- 9:16now, please stop putting yourself under pressure.
- 9:20Just calm down. Relax. 10 / 10 is not happening.
- 9:24We know that now. So step one is relax.
- 9:27Breathe. If you're doing 2 / 10 and you
- 9:31want to go to three, you want to go to four, that is good.
- 9:33We should always aspire, we should always aim to improve.
- 9:36It is good, but don't be giving yourself high BP that you're not
- 9:41doing well. So relax first, just calm down,
- 9:44breathe. Then if you want to now know
- 9:47what is realistic, you need to do 2 things.
- 9:52Number one, start checking your records because sometimes it
- 9:55feels as if you are doing 2 / 10, but by the time you sit down
- 9:59and you look at your WhatsApp message, you see that maybe in
- 10:02reality actually what you're doing is 4 / 10.
- 10:06This thing happens. I just had a conversation with
- 10:08my wife earlier because I was not too happy with the way
- 10:12things are going with the consulting business and also on
- 10:17the media side with the documentaries we've been doing.
- 10:19I was not too happy. But anyway, sha, I just opened
- 10:23my invoicing app. By the time I looked at the
- 10:26figures and I added up everything, I went to go and
- 10:29beat my half. I said, babe, actually from
- 10:31October to this year, this is how much we've done.
- 10:33And she was like, wow, I'd like, yeah, this is what we've done.
- 10:38And we laughed. You know, it's still not what I
- 10:41want, but it's not as bad as what I thought because in my own
- 10:45head is feeling somehow. So my wife said, oh, OK,
- 10:49Actually The thing is because we've been doing a lot, we moved
- 10:52house recently, we bought this, we bought this, we fixed this,
- 10:55we fixed this because the money has been coming.
- 10:57I will be using it to do things. That's the reason why you are
- 11:00feeling as if things are not moving.
- 11:02It's just that, you know, things have been happening, sharp,
- 11:05sharp, sharp. So money is flowing.
- 11:07So believe me, it happens to everybody.
- 11:08Sometimes you don't think you're making progress, but by the time
- 11:10you sit down and you look at your records, you see that, Oh,
- 11:13OK, I'm still, I still have not arrived, but I'm doing better
- 11:18than I thought. So go and check the WhatsApp
- 11:21messages you've been chatting with people.
- 11:23Go and check all the statements, bank transfers that you've been
- 11:27receiving charges, check, look at your Instagram DM, your inbox
- 11:32or whatever. These are the things that will
- 11:34give you a real good sense. Some of you think you're doing 1
- 11:38/ 10. If you go and sit down and check
- 11:40and review, you see that oh, OK, actually maybe I'm doing 3 / 10
- 11:43or 4 / 10, so it might not be that bad.
- 11:45Go and review step one. Step 2, you have to go and
- 11:49review with your peers, talk to other people in your industry
- 11:52before you know what is realistic or not.
- 11:54Because I have this client, they were doing e-mail campaigns and
- 11:59I think he was upset that you are doing 10%.
- 12:03When he told me, I was like, ah, you guys are doing well.
- 12:07He said, well, what do you mean? I told you I look global
- 12:09average. If people do 2% opens, they feel
- 12:12as if that is average. You you're doing 10% opens.
- 12:16Come on, it's not bad. The only thing we need to do
- 12:19now, yes, is of course we need to see how we can improve.
- 12:22The fact that you're doing 10 doesn't mean you should stop
- 12:24there. If you can improve and get to
- 12:2512% opens, 15% opens even better.
- 12:28And then we even now need to work on conversions because for
- 12:32the people in the world, 2% opens, that means those are the
- 12:35people that are trying to get business from from the 2% that
- 12:38open. If you are getting 10% opens
- 12:41five times the amount, we need to work on conversions as in
- 12:46like hard to make sure you can convert because lots of people
- 12:49are opening the emails. We need to make sure that you
- 12:52can convert well. And I heard of another case
- 12:59where somebody even had 30% opens and the person thought
- 13:02what he was doing was bad. So why don't talk to your peers
- 13:05first? When you talk to your peers,
- 13:07that's when you now get a realistic sense of what it is
- 13:10that is going on and what rates are normal.
- 13:16Like I said, it also depends, you know, on the industry, on
- 13:20the product, on the service, you know, things like that.
- 13:23But from reviewing what you have on ground and talking to other
- 13:26people, you now get a sense of what is realistic.
- 13:31Now, I'm not saying do this so that you can console yourself
- 13:34concerning yourself is is useless because to be honest, if
- 13:39you're not making progress, you're not making progress.
- 13:41If you're not where you where you want to be, you're not where
- 13:42you want to be. The reason why I say go and do
- 13:45this exercise first is so that we can establish A baseline.
- 13:49Establish a baseline just means I'm walking somewhere.
- 13:51I need to know where I'm starting from.
- 13:53When you review and you see that, OK, actually you're doing
- 13:563 / 10. And then if you talk to your
- 13:59other people and they say that, oh, industry average is 5 / 10,
- 14:02no problem. Now you know your baseline that
- 14:05me, I'm starting at 3. First step is let me see if I
- 14:09can get to 5 / 10, that if I talk to 10 people that close 5
- 14:14deals. When I get to that stage, I will
- 14:17now know that OK, I have met industry benchmark and that's my
- 14:20new baseline and there's a matter of raising my baseline
- 14:23again. But The thing is we cannot say
- 14:27we're going somewhere or want to improve performance when we have
- 14:29not even established the baseline where we don't even
- 14:31know where we are. So when it comes to this closing
- 14:35thing, do those two exercises, Go and check your WhatsApp
- 14:38messages. Just check all the people you
- 14:41are chatting with. Last week, OK, last week I was
- 14:42chatting with 20 people, all the 20 people that I was chatting
- 14:46with, how many people ended up closing?
- 14:49Just, you know, some simple things like this.
- 14:50We don't want something, you know, it doesn't have to be
- 14:54exact exact. We just need something to give
- 14:56us just the general, you know, just a general feel like where
- 15:01am I? It doesn't have to be exact.
- 15:05Then talk to your colleagues, establish a baseline.
- 15:08When you know your baseline, you will now come up with a plan to
- 15:12increase your conversions. I didn't say increase the number
- 15:17of leads. The number of leads is increase
- 15:18the number of people that you talk to.
- 15:20So there are some businesses where let's say you're closing 8
- 15:26out of 10. You know, if you want to make
- 15:27progress, I guess the next thing to do is actually to make sure
- 15:29that you speak to 20 people next week so that if you're doing 8
- 15:34out of 10, but next week you speak to 20, you will close 16.
- 15:39But before we get to that level where leads are the problem for
- 15:42now, let's say we can increase our conversions.
- 15:45Oh, by the way, I'm assuming that we have some steady deal
- 15:48flow. If you're somebody that to be
- 15:49honest, you know, last month you only spoke to two people.
- 15:53OK, that's a problem. That's that's too low.
- 15:55Your problem, first of all, in this case is you need to find
- 15:58more people to talk to. So conversion is not even your
- 16:00problem. The problem is that you actually
- 16:02need to get the lead flow up. You need to increase the number
- 16:06of people that you're even talking to.
- 16:08So if I make another podcast episode about that, if you check
- 16:12your WhatsApp message and you only spoke to two people last
- 16:14month, OK, it's, it's a different problem and and we'll
- 16:18get to that. So we need to come up with a
- 16:20plan for increasing conversions. Once you know your baseline
- 16:27conversion just means how many people took the next step.
- 16:33So back to my wedding photography example that I
- 16:35always give, I give it not because all of your wedding
- 16:40photographers, but I think it's easy enough to understand.
- 16:43So back in the day, for me and my partner, what we used to do
- 16:46is we used to go to bridal shows like Brides and Babies, which
- 16:51used to hold in Abuja. So the goal was go to the bridal
- 16:55show and try and get as many people as possible to come to
- 16:58the table. So we go to the show, maybe we
- 17:02get 50 brides to come to the table and we talked to all of
- 17:06them. Out of those 50 brides, maybe
- 17:09only 30 of them dropped name for number, e-mail address.
- 17:13That is a conversion. People came to the table.
- 17:16That is one step from the 50. Only 30 dropped their name, That
- 17:21is a conversion. That's another step.
- 17:23Now of the 50 that dropped, name for number, e-mail address,
- 17:27because bridal shows usually happen Thursday, Friday,
- 17:31Saturday, sometimes Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday
- 17:34morning, but you start calling them.
- 17:36The goal is how many people are you going to be able to get to
- 17:41agree to a meeting? You go to the office or they
- 17:43come to the studio and then we'll look at samples.
- 17:46So that's the next step. So Monday morning, start calling
- 17:50on all of them. That first week, maybe we call
- 17:52the 30 of them and then we only get 15 to agree that they'll
- 17:57come to the studio or that we will come and meet them.
- 18:01Maybe the other 15, they ghosted us.
- 18:03So that is another step conversion.
- 18:07People have taken one step. That is a conversion.
- 18:09So this is what we mean by conversions.
- 18:12Of the 15 that now come to the studio, how many people are
- 18:16impressed for us to start talking numbers and then we
- 18:19issue proposals. Maybe out of the 15, we only
- 18:23issue proposals to seven. That's another conversion.
- 18:27The other 8 maybe they decide to go stores from that eight that
- 18:33we gave proposal to maybe 6 pay deposit.
- 18:36That is also another conversion, taking the next step.
- 18:40So in sales, whenever you hear conversions, it just means
- 18:44taking the next step. Who is taking the next step?
- 18:4750 people show how many people can we get to take the next
- 18:50step. 3030 people show how many people can we get to make the
- 18:53next step. 1515 people showed how many people can we get to
- 18:57take the next step. 7-7 people showed how many can we get them
- 19:01to pay the deposit. 55 people paid, so we started talking to
- 19:0650. We ended up with five at each
- 19:10step along the way, people are taking the next step with us.
- 19:13That is called a conversion. So when you know your baseline,
- 19:16what you start working on now is conversions.
- 19:19If I'm talking to 10, how many people do I get to take the next
- 19:21step? When the people take the next
- 19:23step, how many do I get to take the next step and the next?
- 19:26That is how we close deals, by walking people along through
- 19:31different stages. That's how we close deals.
- 19:35Now, let's just say something for the sake of argument,
- 19:40because I have said that no, you cannot close 10 / 10.
- 19:46But for the sake of argument, if we wanted to say that yes, it is
- 19:49possible, you can do 10 / 10. What needs to happen now?
- 19:52Listen carefully. What needs to happen is that
- 19:55you're targeting has to be 100% correct.
- 19:59Targeting means when you decide who you're going to chase.
- 20:03So that means back to the wedding photography example, I
- 20:05need to be able to just look at somebody and I know that this
- 20:08babe, this is the kind of babe that can pay and then I bring
- 20:11that person direct to the table so that we can start talking.
- 20:15I don't even bother talking to people that I know that they
- 20:19will end up doing business. I think about it, are you God?
- 20:25Do you know everything you don't?
- 20:29The best we can do is in our minds, we have a sense of our
- 20:32ICP, the ideal customer profile. We have a sense of, OK, this
- 20:35person might buy, this person might not buy.
- 20:37We have a sense that shall we try our luck?
- 20:39That's just being human. We don't know for sure.
- 20:45So for you to close 100%, your targeting has to be 100%,
- 20:50correct? You see this person, you just
- 20:51know this is my customer. You grab the person, bam, you
- 20:54start the conversation, and then you're on your way to closing.
- 21:01Your targeting has to be 100%. You need to know for sure that
- 21:04this person wants what I have, this person needs what I have,
- 21:08this person can afford what I have, and this person has a
- 21:10sense of urgency. And then those are the only
- 21:14people that you talk to. That is step one.
- 21:18For it to be 100%, then now Step 2, you now have to be worth it.
- 21:27You need to have experience to deal with all possible kind of
- 21:31scenarios. And your business acumen has to
- 21:36be on point so that you can flow with absolutely every single
- 21:41person who comes your way. So if you are that kind of
- 21:47person as in you have all the experience in the world, all
- 21:51possible knowledge in the world and your business acumen is
- 21:55impeccable. Like you can't flow with every
- 21:57single person in every single business scenario.
- 22:00And then your targeting has been 100% correct, as per you only
- 22:04called people for a meeting or visited people or sent emails or
- 22:08whatever to people who only want what you have, need what you
- 22:11have, can afford what you have, and who have a sense of urgency.
- 22:15Yeah. And that's all you need to do to
- 22:16make 100% happen. But by the way, this is
- 22:21something I learnt when I was in photography, at least in
- 22:24America. The wedding photographers in
- 22:27America, they say that if you're talking to somebody, if you're
- 22:29talking to 10 people and you end up closing 8 or 9, you're too
- 22:33cheap. Let me repeat.
- 22:36The wedding photographers back when I was in the game,
- 22:38especially the American school, they used to say that if you're
- 22:42talking to 10 people and you close it, you're too cheap
- 22:45because this is what is happening.
- 22:47They see your walk and they're like, man, this guy is talented,
- 22:51die. And they're thinking the way you
- 22:54open your mouth, you will say $20,000.
- 22:59Then when they ask you how much I say $5000, they'll just keep
- 23:03quiet. They'll just keep quiet.
- 23:04You just pinch, just pinch your wife that she should keep quiet.
- 23:06She should keep quiet. And the guy will just transfer
- 23:08the five quickly because he knows that if they went outside,
- 23:13they'll be pricing 2025. So that's the dynamic in the
- 23:18photography space. If you're a wedding
- 23:21photographer, if you're a fashion designer, those kind of
- 23:23things. If you're talking to 10 people
- 23:25and you're closing 8, you're closing 9, you are too cheap.
- 23:28Raise your price. You're leaving money on the
- 23:31table. People are looking at the
- 23:33quality of what you can provide, and they know that, hey, if I
- 23:37don't pay this thing now, I'll go outside and I'll pay through
- 23:39my nose. That's the only reason why
- 23:40people are doing with you, dealing with you.
- 23:43And for those of you in other spaces, you're not in the
- 23:46creative space like an artist or a wedding photographer or a
- 23:51fashion designer or something. Please, I beg you, adopt that
- 23:54mindset as well. A lot of you are leaving money
- 23:56on the table because you end up doing business with eight out of
- 24:0010 or 9 out of 10. Your work, your skill set, your
- 24:09professionalism, your everything.
- 24:10It is such a steal that people are just closing their eyes and
- 24:13their pain. That is also another advantage
- 24:18of talking to your colleagues. You know when I say talk to your
- 24:21colleagues to figure out your baselines?
- 24:22When you're in touch with your colleagues, the senior ones,
- 24:26they'll be telling you what's up.
- 24:28They'll be guiding you. Yes, there's some people who
- 24:30don't want to train the competition, but don't worry,
- 24:32that is just normal. But there's always one or two
- 24:35seniors who say come here, come here, come here.
- 24:38This is 1 or thing, one or two things you need to learn.
- 24:41So like back when I was in law, it's something that happens a
- 24:43lot. Some seniors don't give you the
- 24:44time of day, but once in a while somebody will see you.
- 24:48Like maybe they will see you in court.
- 24:50As a young man, will you handle that brief impressive.
- 24:54But you know what? Next time like this, like this,
- 24:56like this or before, when you are researching, why didn't you
- 25:00research this and this? Do you know another argument you
- 25:04could have come from was like this, like this.
- 25:06So young man, you tried, you go places, but next time pay
- 25:10attention to these sorts of things.
- 25:12That's some people that do that just out of the goodness of
- 25:14their heart. So always be talking to your
- 25:16colleagues, the people that don't want to train competition
- 25:19and they don't tell you anything, no problem.
- 25:20Leave them. Leave them that they're thinking
- 25:23small. They will never arise and meet
- 25:25you. Don't worry, The people that God
- 25:28have said they'll come your way and open your eyes to one or two
- 25:31things. So we should always be talking
- 25:32to our seniors in the field. You learn one or two things
- 25:36anyway, so let me stop there. Summary.
- 25:44Don't worry yet that you're only closing 2 out of 10 for now.
- 25:50Don't worry. Don't give yourself BP first.
- 25:53Sit down, get the baseline. If you're only closing one out
- 25:58of 10, OK, Yeah, you have a serious problem because
- 26:01everybody should be closing at least 2 / 10.
- 26:07You know, if you're doing 0 / 10, OK, Yeah, it is.
- 26:09There's there's a big problem. Big, big, big, big problem.
- 26:14But just get your baseline and let's come up with a plan.
- 26:18But just know that there's nobody, and I repeat nobody who
- 26:23sells everybody successfully. It does not happen.
- 26:28I'm the one that is saying it. If you find somebody who said
- 26:31that doing 10 / 10, please, I gave you my phone number at the
- 26:35beginning. I'm going to give you my phone
- 26:37number now I bet. Call me.
- 26:39I want to talk to this person and after I do, I'll come on
- 26:44here and I will say people what I said was incorrect.
- 26:48But I can assure you by the time I talk to the person, I'll be
- 26:50able to figure out what the truth is. 5 minutes, I'll know
- 26:53what the truth is. So that's all for today folks.
- 26:56Remember, if you have sales and marketing questions, bring them
- 26:59to me. You can call, you can SMS, you
- 27:01can WhatsApp me on 08064662140. So thanks for your time and
- 27:08attention. I will catch you next time.
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