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BONUS EP: Sharesies CEO Brooke Roberts · She's On The Money

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Speaker 1: She's on the Money.
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Speaker 2: She's on the Money. Hello, and welcome to She's on
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Speaker 2: the Money, the podcast for millennials who want financial freedom.
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Speaker 2: My name is Tony Lodge, and I'm sure that you're very,
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Speaker 2: very surprised to hear.
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Speaker 3: My voice today.
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Speaker 2: I've got Victoria Divine with me as always, I never
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Speaker 2: leave home without her.
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Speaker 3: You always keep me in the back pocket. I like it.
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Speaker 2: And today we've got something really really fun for you guys.
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Speaker 3: So Tony and I were having a conversation recently about
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Speaker 3: how impressed I was with Brooke. And Brook is the
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Speaker 3: CEO or what she calls herself a three EO because
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Speaker 3: she's co CEO of Shares's And anyway, I was saying
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Speaker 3: to Tony how impressed I am with Brook and what
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Speaker 3: she's achieved, and that these are the types of people
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Speaker 3: that I'm inspired by, because genuinely is a CEO of
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Speaker 3: a finance company. She's got a team of like one
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Speaker 3: hundred and fifty people they've just which is huge. They
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Speaker 3: have just expanded to Australia and she's picked up her family.
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Speaker 3: She has two young kids and a husband and has
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Speaker 3: moved them to Sydney so that she can actually you
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Speaker 3: know grow shares ease and I'm always just so impressed
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Speaker 3: with women who not only look like they have it all,
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Speaker 3: but genuinely do and how they manage it. And I'm
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Speaker 3: genuinely so inspired by people like Brooke, and I know
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Speaker 3: that other people are as well. It's not just me
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Speaker 3: who's impressed, because in twenty twenty, which was only last year,
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Speaker 3: Brooke was named as the joint winner of the twenty
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Speaker 3: twenty New Zealand Women of Influence Award, which is not
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Speaker 3: a small feed and is incredibly impressive, and I just
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Speaker 3: really wanted to get her on the podcast. I know
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Speaker 3: we don't do interviews or conversations ever, and this is
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Speaker 3: definitely not us saying we're moving in that direction, but
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Speaker 3: I genuinely just wanted to share Brook with you guys
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Speaker 3: because she's someone that I look up to and someone
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Speaker 3: that our team has been really impressed with. And by
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Speaker 3: no means is this actually sponsored. I just wanted to
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Speaker 3: share Brook with you guys because through working with them
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Speaker 3: in a different campaign, I've just learnt so much about
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Speaker 3: them and so much about Brook, and I'm genuinely inspired
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Speaker 3: by what she brings to the table and who she
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Speaker 3: is and that She's a mum and a CEO and
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Speaker 3: a leader, and I'm just so genuinely impressed by her,
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Speaker 3: and I know you guys will be inspired by her
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Speaker 3: as well. So here is the chat we had with
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Speaker 3: her just this week. All right, where do you want
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Speaker 3: to start, Tony?
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Speaker 2: I guess we'll start at the beginning, Like, why why
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Speaker 2: are you doing what you're doing?
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Speaker 1: Brook?
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Speaker 2: Obviously there's a million things that you could be doing.
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Speaker 2: You're a smart, powerful woman. You could be doing whatever
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Speaker 2: you want. So why finance? Like why is this where
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Speaker 2: you're at?
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Speaker 3: Oh, your finance is cool? Are you just going to
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Speaker 3: attack finance off the bat like we're cool people?
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Speaker 1: I didn't say, you know why finance?
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Speaker 2: I love finance, obviously, this I'm here true?
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Speaker 3: All right, Brooke, how'd you end up in finance? Oh?
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Speaker 4: I love this question? And it's actually it's a long
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Speaker 4: story to answer, but you know, we've got time, so
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Speaker 4: I'll try and make it short. But I studied like
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Speaker 4: business accounting and economics back at school, and I really
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Speaker 4: loved business. And I started some businesses when I was
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Speaker 4: at school and they did really they were really fun
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Speaker 4: and I learned a lot and they did well too,
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Speaker 4: And so I just always kind of had a bit
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Speaker 4: of that knack, like I really enjoyed creating something from
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Speaker 4: nothing and seeing it serve the community. I just really
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Speaker 4: really enjoyed that. But and then I thought I might
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Speaker 4: just just keep running businesses. But then I decided to
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Speaker 4: go to university because I was really brave in my
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Speaker 4: naivety back then, I think. But then you'd hear this
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Speaker 4: jog and all this terms, and you're like, what does
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Speaker 4: that mean? Maybe I do need to go study or something.
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Speaker 4: I think that's what I felt at that time. And
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Speaker 4: so I went and studied, and I was studying marketing
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Speaker 4: and international business, and I felt like I was really
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Speaker 4: enjoying that, but I felt like something was missing. And
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Speaker 4: it was in my three hundred level marketing class where
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Speaker 4: this guest lecture coming and there was three hundred of us,
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Speaker 4: you know, three hundred marketing students in the room, and
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Speaker 4: this guest lecturer asked who here likes numbers? And out
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Speaker 4: of three hundred of us, three of us put our
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Speaker 4: hand up, and I was like, only three, Maybe I
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Speaker 4: should only three. I've got to do something with this, yeah,
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Speaker 4: And I was just I've got to do something with this.
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Speaker 4: So I decided to pick up finance, and I just
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Speaker 4: never looked back.
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Speaker 1: I really enjoyed.
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Speaker 4: Studying and diving into money and finance. I really enjoy
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Speaker 4: like the analytical side and really learning how the economy
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Speaker 4: works and businesses thrive and what investing means. And the
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Speaker 4: more and more I learned about that, the more and
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Speaker 4: more I became aware of how so much of this
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Speaker 4: information is just not accessible. It's all wrapped up in
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Speaker 4: jargon and so unattainable. And then I thought I would
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Speaker 4: have to choose a career either in.
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Speaker 1: Marketing or finance, Like there's no way you can combine
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Speaker 1: both of them. Haha, They're going to end up.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, But little did I know, and now you know,
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Speaker 4: there's so many opportunities. But I ended up from this
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Speaker 4: conversation with the CEO of a bank who actually had
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Speaker 4: a marketing background and was leading a bank, and I
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Speaker 4: was like, maybe you can combine these and discovered product
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Speaker 4: management and went down that area and loved it.
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Speaker 1: I absolutely love, you know.
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Speaker 4: I lead to savings and investment and international derivative portfolios,
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Speaker 4: and I learned a lot about really the strict financial
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Speaker 4: side and how the economy works and hedging and all
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Speaker 4: of that kind of interesting stuff, along with like deeply,
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Speaker 4: deeply understanding people and how they interact with money and
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Speaker 4: how money.
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Speaker 1: Sits with them, and.
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Speaker 4: Learning about how we could use the products and things
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Speaker 4: we offered to really better serve our people and help
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Speaker 4: them become better savers through making sure we had you know,
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Speaker 4: really awesome goal tracking and digital experiences. So I learned
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Speaker 4: heeps through that. And I know, this is a really
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Speaker 4: long answer of how I got into finance, but essentially
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Speaker 4: initially through university and that kind of banking experience, and
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Speaker 4: then how I ended up with cheers EA's was information
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Speaker 4: just was not accessible to so many people that I
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Speaker 4: was learning in banking, and I was like, you know,
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Speaker 4: my parents didn't know, My family didn't know you could
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Speaker 4: probably negotiate mortgage rations to.
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Speaker 1: Rates, Like nobody knows this stuff.
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Speaker 4: And it's like when you get in the system, you
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Speaker 4: start to learn it and you realize, like, there's just
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Speaker 4: so much inequality here.
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Speaker 1: So I really wanted to help change that.
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Speaker 4: And one of the co founders, Sonya of Cheerseas, she
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Speaker 4: came up the initial idea behind Cheersya's and it's just
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Speaker 4: been great to be on board of that. Ever, since
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Speaker 4: we started it together along with four other founders, and
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Speaker 4: it's been a dream. So that's a long winded way
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Speaker 4: of how I kind of got into finance.
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Speaker 1: I love it.
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Speaker 3: Not long winded at all. That's perfect. That's what I
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Speaker 3: want to hear. Like, I didn't invite you on the
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Speaker 3: podcast to say, well, Victoria, I went to unied like
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Speaker 3: that's not helpful.
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Speaker 2: It's funny that you said that you never thought that
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Speaker 2: marketing and finance could go together because before I entered
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Speaker 2: this world of being part of She's on the money,
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Speaker 2: and I'm quite new it's the same because Victoria, you
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Speaker 2: studied psychology and like organized psych before you started getting
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Speaker 2: into finance and thought, oh, actually the same as you, Brooke.
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Speaker 2: I love numbers and I want to be part of this.
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Speaker 2: How can I combine the two? And you don't realize
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Speaker 2: how much other backgrounds can contribute to helping your finance career,
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Speaker 2: and you just don't think that other things can contribute
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Speaker 2: and make those other things better or bigger, or you
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Speaker 2: see things from different perspectives, or as someone who's only
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Speaker 2: studied psych or only studied finance or only studied marketing
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Speaker 2: probably wouldn't look at it from different perspectives.
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Speaker 3: It's true, It's absolutely true. And I think that that's
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Speaker 3: a really good point because so many of us and
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Speaker 3: recently we've done our Careers episode and really been talking
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Speaker 3: about you know, careers and how we feel about ourselves
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Speaker 3: and imposter syndrome. And I think it's one of those
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Speaker 3: things where people just assume other people who are in
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Speaker 3: leadership sessions like you are, Brook, they just must have
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Speaker 3: their lives together in a way that nobody else does,
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Speaker 3: and that you know, they're fearless and they've never gone
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Speaker 3: through anything before. So in light of that, is imposter
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Speaker 3: syndrome something that you've experienced, and you know, how has
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Speaker 3: been in finance as a female impacted.
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Speaker 1: You, oh, one hundred percent. I definitely have been impacted
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Speaker 1: by imposter syndrome.
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Speaker 4: And really luckily I've learned like and had really strong
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Speaker 4: supporters around me that have helped me through that. I mean,
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Speaker 4: I've definitely been the only woman in rooms making you know,
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Speaker 4: big decisions before and the youngest synrooms making you know,
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Speaker 4: trying to bring my voice. And when I reflect on
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Speaker 4: those opportunities I had early on, a lot of the
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Speaker 4: time I felt like I was in sink or swim situations,
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Speaker 4: but really realized that I had really strong supporters in
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Speaker 4: that room that we're only ever going to let me swim.
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Speaker 4: And I think it was really nice to have that
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Speaker 4: environment and have that support from my manager all other
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Speaker 4: people in the room. But you know, sometimes maybe not,
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Speaker 4: but I yeah, I think it's something that impacts all
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Speaker 4: of us at all of our stages.
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Speaker 1: I've definitely had it through leading Cheersa's too.
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Speaker 4: This is my first time being a CEO, and I've
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Speaker 4: now been you know, the sea of Chezy's or one
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Speaker 4: of the CEOs for four years now and really enjoyed it.
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Speaker 4: But you know, every time as the company grows, you know,
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Speaker 4: we sat it with six of us and now there's
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Speaker 4: you know, more like one hundred and fifty people at
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Speaker 4: Cheersa's and the company is scaling, and just making.
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Speaker 1: Sure that that's amazing. Yeah, it's so much.
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Speaker 4: Fun, but just making sure that I'm scaling too, and
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Speaker 4: I'm learning and growing in my leadership skills and what
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Speaker 4: I bring to Chazy's every day and just keep giving
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Speaker 4: it a go and having my own back.
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Speaker 1: I love that.
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Speaker 3: How do you learn to have your own back? Like?
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Speaker 3: How does someone get to a position and I'm really
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Speaker 3: lucky that having gone through the journey I've been through,
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Speaker 3: I feel like I have my own back, and you know,
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Speaker 3: I'm really confident in what I bring to the table
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Speaker 3: when sometimes it's not positive and sometimes people do make
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Speaker 3: you feel not so great about yourself. But how have
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Speaker 3: you personally learned to kind of have your own back
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Speaker 3: and have the confidence that you need to excel in
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Speaker 3: the role that you have excelled in.
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Speaker 4: I think like knowing in myself it's okay to make
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Speaker 4: mistakes and always applying the most generous assumption too, you
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Speaker 4: know when I do something like knowing it's coming from
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Speaker 4: the best intent or that you know, I gave it
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Speaker 4: a good go and now I've learned from that and
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Speaker 4: I'm going to be better in the future, and just
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Speaker 4: coming from a place of adaha I love rather than
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Speaker 4: like fear of like what if what if I get
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Speaker 4: it wrong? What if it's taken this way, or you know,
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Speaker 4: all of these what ifs that can kind of start
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Speaker 4: really compounding. And I noticed I would think about a
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Speaker 4: think like that sometimes and so really trying to come
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Speaker 4: to this place like, you know, what if from a
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Speaker 4: nice place, you know, what if you know the most
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Speaker 4: generous assumption I could, you know, make here, and you know,
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Speaker 4: I know that I'm just giving it a really good
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Speaker 4: go and I have the best intent and just trusting that,
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Speaker 4: and you know, every now and I remind myself of that.
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Speaker 4: But I think it's a way bit of hid space
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Speaker 4: to have that and then also just making sure I
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Speaker 4: get that time to have perspective, you know, like going
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Speaker 4: for a walk, just playing with my kids on the
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Speaker 4: floor and singing songs or whatever we do, you know,
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Speaker 4: like just having that time out and making sure I
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Speaker 4: really crep that hid space every day to just really
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Speaker 4: keep things in perspective.
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Speaker 3: And I think that that's really important because it's so
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Speaker 3: hard to differentiate sometimes what is important and what is not.
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Speaker 3: And I guess at the end of the day, family
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Speaker 3: for me always comes first, and you know, my home life,
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Speaker 3: if I'm not happy there, like I can't bring the
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Speaker 3: best version of myself to work. And I remember starting
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Speaker 3: in finance in a rookie might have had a similar experience.
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Speaker 3: And you know, it's funny now that we're sitting on
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Speaker 3: a zoom meeting together and I'm in like essentially track pads.
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Speaker 3: I'm wearing a pair of leggings, and I have like
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Speaker 3: a fluffy jumper on, and I'm definitely really comfy, and
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Speaker 3: you're wearing pink, and we are just not what you
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Speaker 3: would expect to I guess, you know, of financial services
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Speaker 3: to look like. But when I look back on the
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Speaker 3: way I used to function in this space, it was definitely,
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Speaker 3: you know, I wanted to adhere to what I thought
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Speaker 3: was right, and I wanted to turn up every day
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Speaker 3: in a beautiful black suit, and I was always on point.
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Speaker 3: And you best believe like I always only wore black
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Speaker 3: court shoes and made sure that I really fitted into
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Speaker 3: the mold that I thought I had to be in
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Speaker 3: to do a job that I was really passionate about
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Speaker 3: because I was like, all right, well, these are the
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Speaker 3: expectations of the role. And I didn't bring my personal
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Speaker 3: life to work. I didn't talk about, you know, my partner.
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Speaker 3: I didn't talk about these things because I didn't want
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Speaker 3: to be seen as having other priorities outside of finance.
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Speaker 3: Because you know, everybody I was working with, they lived
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Speaker 3: at they breathed it like it was you know, a
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Speaker 3: bit like oh, Victoria's leaving early to play netball, Like oh,
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Speaker 3: she is childish and I remember being like, oh, yeah,
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Speaker 3: I've got to go home. I'm studying because at the
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Speaker 3: time I was doing my MBA when in reality, I
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Speaker 3: was going to play netball, And so I'd always feel
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Speaker 3: a little bit ashamed of, you know, the things that
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Speaker 3: I was in excited about. Have you experienced that and
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Speaker 3: how did you, I guess, break those molds and you know,
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Speaker 3: become you and get to be the best version of you.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I think early on when I I don't have
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Speaker 4: a family who've got like strong business connections or anything
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Speaker 4: like that. So when I was at university, I was
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Speaker 4: trying to find how could I find mentors and especially
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Speaker 4: female mentors that I could learn from. And I quickly
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Speaker 4: realized who I didn't want to be, and I didn't
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Speaker 4: want to be. I didn't want to have to change
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Speaker 4: who I was to kind of fit this mold. But
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Speaker 4: at the same time, I also knew I needed to
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Speaker 4: find a way to like progress and have a good career.
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Speaker 4: So I've always kind of in some way been I'm
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Speaker 4: quite a hyperactive person and just be myself in that
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Speaker 4: regard and owned it in a lot of ways. And
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Speaker 4: I think, you know, some people were confused by that, maybe,
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Speaker 4: but the majority of the time, people were really on
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Speaker 4: board of that and how businesses are working now in
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Speaker 4: the flexible working and it's just brought all of this
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Speaker 4: to the table, right like that you just have to
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Speaker 4: be able to be able to be yourself and be
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Speaker 4: able to prioritize the things that are important to you.
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Speaker 4: But in saying that, I definitely know what you're talking
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Speaker 4: about in terms of the studying or you know, when
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Speaker 4: you went off to do something feeling like you have
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Speaker 4: to hide if you're going to go catch up with
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Speaker 4: a friend for yeah, a coffee or lunch or something.
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Speaker 1: We naturally it's fine because you know that you God
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Speaker 1: for me after work.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's crazy because that was the expectation. And I mean,
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Speaker 3: we've all got different experiences, but I remember just feeling
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Speaker 3: guilt over having a social life, feeling guilt over having
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Speaker 3: interests outside of work, when in reality, those are the
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Speaker 3: things that helped me bring the best version of me
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Speaker 3: to work for my clients and now for my community.
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Speaker 3: And yeah, I just I look back on it and
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Speaker 3: I feel a little bit sad because I look at
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Speaker 3: it and go, wow, like she was trying to be
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Speaker 3: someone who she wasn't, and like I am very extroverted
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Speaker 3: in the office. I'm an introverted person, but I'm extroverted
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Speaker 3: in the office because I'm so passionate about what I'm doing.
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Speaker 3: And you know, Tony probably gets annoyed because I'll three
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Speaker 3: seconds before before I'm planning on doing something, I'll be like, hey,
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Speaker 3: so I was just thinking, well you do X, Y
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Speaker 3: and Z, and she was like, yeah, of course, no problems.
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Speaker 3: And I used to be really restrained on that stuff
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Speaker 3: because I was like, Oh, they're not gonna want my opinion,
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Speaker 3: They're not gonna want, you know, to hear this, and
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Speaker 3: I think they're being able to step up and be like, actually,
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Speaker 3: I have a lot to share, I have a lot
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Speaker 3: to bring to this table. And I really just wish
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Speaker 3: that past me got to experience that sooner than I did. Yeah.
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Speaker 3: I guess that was mentors and growing up and you know,
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Speaker 3: actually getting to experience the world has been really important.
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Speaker 3: Who do you look up to? Who do you see,
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Speaker 3: as you know, inspiration in your space or are you
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Speaker 3: just not looking at any of that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: I've always found it really hard question because my whole life,
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Speaker 4: when you know, people could rattle off people and I've
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Speaker 4: always found you know, like I've just wanted to do
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Speaker 4: it a new way, but take lessons from a bunch
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Speaker 4: of people and so or the way that I was
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Speaker 4: going to do it, and never hold myself up to
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Speaker 4: be a replica of somebody and some you know, but
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Speaker 4: know that there's this really interesting lessons learned from people
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Speaker 4: who've done things and it hasn't gone well to people
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Speaker 4: who are just nailing it, and I look for that
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Speaker 4: inspiration everywhere.
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Speaker 1: I really like the really clear communication that we.
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Speaker 4: Get in New Zealand from Descender and that real compassionate
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Speaker 4: and empathy.
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Speaker 1: I really like people who can really.
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Speaker 4: Own up to the mistakes I've made and just face
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Speaker 4: that and learn from it and move on. I think
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Speaker 4: that there's so much in that kind of resiliency and
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Speaker 4: lessons to be learned there. I really enjoy the ethos of,
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Speaker 4: you know, that optimistic future with really understanding the realities now,
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Speaker 4: but every day making progress towards a better future. And
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Speaker 4: that's something that those are the kind of ethoss I
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Speaker 4: really enjoy and kind of soak up and admire when
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Speaker 4: I see people live.
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Speaker 1: And breathe those type of things.
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Speaker 3: I love that.
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Speaker 1: I love the energy of this too.
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Speaker 2: It's like how you said you've had bosses that you learn,
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Speaker 2: you know what, I don't want to be that type
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Speaker 2: of boss and I don't want to work that way.
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Speaker 2: I think sometimes those lessons are just as valuable when
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Speaker 2: you go, you know what, I'm never ever going to
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Speaker 2: do that to an employee or a workmate or something,
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Speaker 2: because you can definitely learn some learn some good things
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Speaker 2: from people that you realize that's not who I want
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Speaker 2: to be.
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you're really really you can learn like we're your
17:26
Speaker 4: values lie and the type of leader you want to
17:28
Speaker 4: be or the type of person you want to be.
17:30
Speaker 4: You know, who do I want to show ups? And
17:32
Speaker 4: how do I just show up as myself? And yeah,
17:35
Speaker 4: I've definitely learned a lot of lessons of things I
17:36
Speaker 4: would never do.
17:37
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, I love that. And I guess that's
17:41
Speaker 3: that's really challenging as well, because you know, you and
17:44
Speaker 3: I Brooke, we're both young, or we like to I
17:46
Speaker 3: would say, we'd like to think we are young, but
17:49
Speaker 3: we are in this position where we are leaders of businesses.
17:53
Speaker 3: And I think that people just assume you know how
17:56
Speaker 3: to do that and you don't, and it is really
17:59
Speaker 3: hard and I'm really grateful for the team that I
18:01
Speaker 3: have because I think that they understand that, you know,
18:04
Speaker 3: this is new for me too, and I just kind
18:07
Speaker 3: of making it up as I go. But I always
18:09
Speaker 3: want people to feel respected and feel as though their
18:11
Speaker 3: opinions do matter and we are on a team when
18:14
Speaker 3: it comes to, you know, being that person. What has
18:18
Speaker 3: been I guess pivotal in you really understanding how to
18:21
Speaker 3: lead a team and how to lead a community because
18:24
Speaker 3: you're doing a really bloody good job of it. And
18:28
Speaker 3: I kind of just impervey and want to.
18:29
Speaker 4: Know, Yeah, I don't as much reading as I did
18:34
Speaker 4: before you know, getting into this role, or as I've
18:37
Speaker 4: grown in this role and speaking teaps of people and
18:41
Speaker 4: the mentoring I've been able to get from really great
18:44
Speaker 4: leaders to really you know, I was a person before
18:47
Speaker 4: you know, starting Shares is that I would just watch
18:51
Speaker 4: the CEOs, like what are they doing, how they're communicating,
18:54
Speaker 4: where are they spending their time. I was definitely stalking
18:57
Speaker 4: or watching in the background and all of that. You know,
19:00
Speaker 4: it's never prepared me every day for what you know,
19:02
Speaker 4: I go through here at Chazy's. And I think it's
19:05
Speaker 4: really about the values that align us and you know,
19:09
Speaker 4: I just deeply, deeply care for our people and our
19:12
Speaker 4: community investors and for what we're doing. I really want
19:16
Speaker 4: to create a space where people really feel in it together,
19:19
Speaker 4: you know that we're all one team. And the success
19:22
Speaker 4: I have one day, like speaking here today with you two,
19:26
Speaker 4: it's really I only get to do this because of
19:29
Speaker 4: all the great work and effort and care that the
19:33
Speaker 4: whole team of Cheesys have put into where we've got
19:36
Speaker 4: to today, and really deeply understanding that and feeling that,
19:40
Speaker 4: and then always just chasing remarkable, just finding the new
19:43
Speaker 4: way that really enables us to push new barriers and
19:46
Speaker 4: if that's at Chezy's hope in terms of creating the
19:47
Speaker 4: most financially empowered generation and how we do that to
19:52
Speaker 4: things that I'll be focusing on during the week and
19:54
Speaker 4: making sure that I'm really just bringing remarkable and a
19:57
Speaker 4: magnificent energy to that.
19:59
Speaker 3: I love that bringing remarkable. Where is that come from?
20:03
Speaker 3: Is that something that you've just started saying, or like,
20:06
Speaker 3: I really like that. How do we bring remarkable?
20:10
Speaker 4: One of our values that Chezy's is chase remarkable. So
20:13
Speaker 4: I probably can't adrift it of it from that, I guess,
20:15
Speaker 4: But yeah, chasing remarkable knowing that it's always a chase,
20:19
Speaker 4: but it's always a great thing to be striving.
20:20
Speaker 3: To worry no one can say that you're not on
20:22
Speaker 3: brand for Yeah, it's so good. And I think that's
20:25
Speaker 3: something that really resonates with me because you know, I
20:29
Speaker 3: get to meet a lot of people who run finance
20:31
Speaker 3: companies and a lot of people who work in this
20:33
Speaker 3: investing space. And I remember when you know, I got
20:37
Speaker 3: introduced to you because cha Ze's is coming to Australia,
20:41
Speaker 3: and it was so excited because we already had such
20:43
Speaker 3: a hype from our New Zealand community around share Zeas
20:47
Speaker 3: and that being a really great platform to start their
20:49
Speaker 3: investing journeys. And I was just so stoked because I'd
20:53
Speaker 3: read so much about share Zeas and was kind of like, oh,
20:55
Speaker 3: maybe one day they'll come to Australia, but hadn't you know,
20:58
Speaker 3: been able to reach out yet. And I just remember
21:00
Speaker 3: being so excited because I was like, I feel like
21:03
Speaker 3: these guys are on the same page as me. And
21:05
Speaker 3: then you and I got to know each other and
21:07
Speaker 3: we had a couple of meetings together just to understand
21:09
Speaker 3: each other before we even decided to work together. And
21:12
Speaker 3: I was just so amazed at you know, who you
21:15
Speaker 3: are and what you've created and what your team does.
21:18
Speaker 3: And I guess it. I guess it's interesting as well,
21:21
Speaker 3: because I think a lot of people would say that
21:25
Speaker 3: the roles that you and I have, particularly you like
21:28
Speaker 3: my team is what like ten and yours is one
21:30
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty. They're really unrelatable. But you know, you
21:34
Speaker 3: went to UNI in the same way. You didn't come
21:36
Speaker 3: from this massive wealthy family who you know, you inherited
21:40
Speaker 3: mom and dad's business. You've kind of like done this
21:42
Speaker 3: yourself with you know, your business partners. When you're at UNI,
21:46
Speaker 3: did you see this for yourself? Like what did you
21:49
Speaker 3: think the future looked like? And you know, are you
21:52
Speaker 3: now a bit like, oh I am the CEO of
21:54
Speaker 3: a company?
21:55
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think my PASTUF will be really stoked for myself.
22:00
Speaker 4: This is where I would have, you know, I love
22:02
Speaker 4: to be. I can't say I saw this specific opportunity
22:05
Speaker 4: or saw that would specifically be in finance. I thought
22:07
Speaker 4: I might be more in the fashion business side of things,
22:11
Speaker 4: but I'm yeah, I think I'll be really proud of
22:17
Speaker 4: what I've been spending my time on and what I've
22:20
Speaker 4: been creating and am creating here, and I think it
22:24
Speaker 4: really boils down to I just really care about creating
22:26
Speaker 4: equal opportunities and making sure people get access to things
22:30
Speaker 4: they should have access to and be able to do
22:32
Speaker 4: that in a fun and confident way. And so I
22:34
Speaker 4: just really enjoy every day that I get to spend
22:37
Speaker 4: at Cheeses and not saying that, you know, there's not challenging.
22:39
Speaker 4: There's definitely challenging days and days where I'm like, oh,
22:43
Speaker 4: I've really got to do some research on this. I
22:47
Speaker 4: would have need some advice, definitely, I get that often,
22:49
Speaker 4: but or I just need some time to deep think
22:51
Speaker 4: about stuff.
22:52
Speaker 1: But I really really think I'm just so lucky to
22:57
Speaker 1: be doing what I'm doing.
22:59
Speaker 3: I love that, and I love how much you love
23:02
Speaker 3: Shares is so genuinely like and that's why I said,
23:05
Speaker 3: we don't do interviews on She's on the Money, and
23:08
Speaker 3: I didn't want this to be an interview, And I
23:10
Speaker 3: said to Tony, like, we just need to get Brooke
23:12
Speaker 3: on because we need to share her with our community.
23:14
Speaker 3: Like it's not a sponsored thing. I just genuinely want
23:17
Speaker 3: to talk to more strong women who you know, can
23:21
Speaker 3: be our inspiration and can be the people that we
23:23
Speaker 3: look up to, and I know that you're so proud
23:25
Speaker 3: of what you've done. But I guess next question for
23:28
Speaker 3: me is what's been the most exciting part of your
23:31
Speaker 3: journey so far?
23:32
Speaker 4: Oh oh, in terms of like career wise, like creating
23:37
Speaker 4: something from scratch and seeing you know, like and working
23:41
Speaker 4: with an incredible team and being able to build that
23:44
Speaker 4: has been a massive highlight and every day really really exciting.
23:49
Speaker 1: I really enjoy the challenge of it too.
23:52
Speaker 4: I think, you know, we definitely are doing stuff in
23:56
Speaker 4: a new and a different way, and I think being
23:58
Speaker 4: able to really challenge the status quo but in a
24:02
Speaker 4: way that's really uniting too and driving a path forward.
24:06
Speaker 1: I really like that approach and the way that we
24:08
Speaker 1: do things.
24:09
Speaker 4: And I just love I just every time I hear
24:13
Speaker 4: about somebody who's just got into investing or I'm investing
24:17
Speaker 4: for a while, and just being able to see this
24:20
Speaker 4: new way of investing now and hearing how it's impacting
24:24
Speaker 4: their life and the community around them and the conversations
24:27
Speaker 4: they can have at the dinner table with their family
24:29
Speaker 4: or their friends, It's just like it really gets me.
24:32
Speaker 1: In the heart.
24:34
Speaker 3: I love that. I love that because I feel exactly
24:37
Speaker 3: the same way I get DMS from people just being like, hey,
24:41
Speaker 3: you know, I've gotten out of debt, or I've just
24:42
Speaker 3: taken the first plunge, or I've just And I think
24:45
Speaker 3: that sometimes sometimes people message and they're like, oh, I'm
24:48
Speaker 3: so sorry that I'm messaging you. I just, you know,
24:50
Speaker 3: really wanted to tell you, like why are you sorry?
24:53
Speaker 3: Like this stuff makes my day, Like this stuff is
24:56
Speaker 3: why I do what I do. Please never ever ever
24:59
Speaker 3: stop telling me that. And you know, I say to
25:02
Speaker 3: my team all the time because like if you asked Tony,
25:05
Speaker 3: like a lot of tears are often shed in our offices,
25:08
Speaker 3: I said, if ever this doesn't impact me anymore, like
25:12
Speaker 3: we need to be talking. We need to be saying
25:14
Speaker 3: what is wrong, because you know that impact if it
25:17
Speaker 3: ever wears off, like there is genuinely something wrong with
25:21
Speaker 3: you know, the way that we're running a business, because
25:22
Speaker 3: we should always be proud of that. And I think that, Yeah,
25:25
Speaker 3: it's just so nice to know that other people are
25:28
Speaker 3: just as passionate about it and how that works. Next
25:32
Speaker 3: question is you know you've said that you're really passionate
25:36
Speaker 3: about this, and we understand. I guess a little bit
25:38
Speaker 3: more about what drives you personally, but like what does
25:42
Speaker 3: the future look like? You've got this brand that you know,
25:45
Speaker 3: you have business partners, but you guys are started in
25:49
Speaker 3: New Zealand, which is crazy for an investing company and
25:53
Speaker 3: so epic, and you've expanded to Australia and is this
25:58
Speaker 3: way you saw shares is going? Like what's next? How
26:01
Speaker 3: does it work?
26:03
Speaker 1: Yeah?
26:03
Speaker 4: This is definitely always where we've seen Cheeses going. You know,
26:07
Speaker 4: we we really want to be able to provide Australians
26:12
Speaker 4: with access to investing in a way that they can
26:17
Speaker 4: you know, invest how much they want, when they want,
26:19
Speaker 4: and not kind of.
26:19
Speaker 1: Be limited by the rules out there.
26:22
Speaker 4: We you know, we started cheese Is after doing heaps
26:25
Speaker 4: and heaps of customer research to go do people whoven
26:28
Speaker 4: want to be an investor?
26:29
Speaker 1: How does how does investing sit? And you know and
26:32
Speaker 1: what they do? Now? What what does money mean to them?
26:34
Speaker 1: Like how do they feel about money?
26:36
Speaker 4: And really learned that like ninety nine point five percent
26:38
Speaker 4: of people want to be an investor, like an investor
26:39
Speaker 4: is an aspotional thing, but a lot of people feel
26:43
Speaker 4: priced out, like you need heaps of money to get
26:44
Speaker 4: started or jarggoned out like you need to know heaps
26:47
Speaker 4: will have to have a degree in it even to
26:49
Speaker 4: just get started and left out, like the system has
26:53
Speaker 4: really been set up one hundred for the wealthy few
26:56
Speaker 4: and really fuck left out of even being able to
26:59
Speaker 4: become an investor. And that's something that drives us and
27:01
Speaker 4: we really do everything we can to remove those barriers. So,
27:07
Speaker 4: like we've made sure that the minimum investment on all
27:09
Speaker 4: the investment options on cheeses is one cent so that
27:13
Speaker 4: people can just for their amounts they want.
27:16
Speaker 3: Guys like I don't.
27:17
Speaker 4: Think you can get less than that, Yeah, exactly. It's
27:21
Speaker 4: like you know, and it's like and that's access to
27:25
Speaker 4: us and New Zealand and Australian shares and companies. And
27:28
Speaker 4: then we wanted to just use everyday language, you know,
27:31
Speaker 4: like it doesn't need to have all this jargon, and
27:33
Speaker 4: then essentially create a platform that feels a lot more
27:36
Speaker 4: inclusive and can be a place for everyone from new
27:39
Speaker 4: to seasoned, from you know, like everybody being able to
27:43
Speaker 4: feel like they can participate in this world and be
27:45
Speaker 4: able to develop their wealth. And that's what we're building
27:49
Speaker 4: every day.
27:50
Speaker 3: I love that so much. It makes me so happy
27:53
Speaker 3: that a couple of years ago when I started She's
27:55
Speaker 3: on the Money and just started having these conversations like
27:59
Speaker 3: I didn't realize that other people who were as passionate
28:01
Speaker 3: about this stuff as I was, and it just felt
28:04
Speaker 3: like I was out on my own. And now I'm
28:06
Speaker 3: just overwhelmed with how many people I can connect with
28:10
Speaker 3: and you know, vibe off and be like, oh my god, Brook,
28:12
Speaker 3: this is so cool. I cannot believe that you guys
28:14
Speaker 3: have created this option, and you know, I think how
28:17
Speaker 3: community is the same, and you know, I'm really grateful
28:20
Speaker 3: that we get to kind of introduce them to you
28:22
Speaker 3: and what you get up to, because I think that
28:25
Speaker 3: you know, regardless of what you know, She's on the
28:27
Speaker 3: Money and shares you is do like we're going to
28:29
Speaker 3: be following you and watching what you get up to,
28:31
Speaker 3: because it's genuinely inspiring, like seeing women live out their
28:35
Speaker 3: passion and seeing women live out, you know, really great
28:38
Speaker 3: careers and still have kids and essentially manage it all,
28:42
Speaker 3: Like that's just genuinely so impressive. And I guess it
28:45
Speaker 3: then leans into the question of how do you manage
28:48
Speaker 3: work life balance, Like how have you managed to look clack?
28:51
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying you do, but look like you
28:54
Speaker 3: have it all.
28:56
Speaker 4: It's quite funny timing talking about this, because you know,
28:59
Speaker 4: I rely moved to Sydney and we'll be here for
29:02
Speaker 4: most of the year, and I bought my three year
29:05
Speaker 4: old and one year old, and you know, my husband's
29:07
Speaker 4: also one of the co founders in Cheersy, so we've
29:08
Speaker 4: all come over and I'm a bit of an internal optimist,
29:12
Speaker 4: so I just thought, yeah.
29:13
Speaker 1: This would be great. Kids will love it, you know,
29:15
Speaker 1: they adaptable. Oh it's been quite difficult, really.
29:20
Speaker 3: Oh no, it's.
29:21
Speaker 1: Been really and I'm having a blast. I am loving.
29:25
Speaker 4: Sydney, I'm loving Australia. I'm having x fumba for the kids.
29:28
Speaker 4: It's been really it's been more of a challenge than
29:30
Speaker 4: I expected in terms of adjusting and finding a daycare
29:34
Speaker 4: and this like perpetual to do list you kind of
29:36
Speaker 4: have in your mind, and then then getting settled and
29:37
Speaker 4: creating new friendships and you know, feeling safe and when
29:42
Speaker 4: everything they knew and they you know, all of our
29:44
Speaker 4: support mechanisms back in New Zealand have gone, and so
29:47
Speaker 4: I think that's been it's been a bit more challenging
29:49
Speaker 4: than I probably initially anticipated. But I feel like we're
29:52
Speaker 4: getting there now. We've had no tears for the last
29:55
Speaker 4: three days, and.
29:59
Speaker 1: It's I know it's fleasing, but I think you know
30:01
Speaker 1: it is.
30:02
Speaker 4: I just really important and like you said earlier, family
30:05
Speaker 4: is really really important and that is number one. So
30:08
Speaker 4: I took some time to just make sure I could
30:09
Speaker 4: help them settle in and so as latent and I
30:12
Speaker 4: think that really helps. And I a really good thing
30:18
Speaker 4: with Chezy's is that we have this thing about just
30:21
Speaker 4: having like shoulders at the end of the day, and
30:23
Speaker 4: so sharing a problem or getting support we're needed, or
30:27
Speaker 4: taking the time for our.
30:29
Speaker 1: Own wellness and well being is really really crucial to that.
30:32
Speaker 4: And we've built that into how we work, and I
30:35
Speaker 4: definitely have built that into how I work and continue
30:38
Speaker 4: to remind myself though it's very easy to just be like, oh,
30:40
Speaker 4: this is one more thing, I'll get back to them,
30:41
Speaker 4: and oh yeah, I'll take a break later, but it's
30:43
Speaker 4: it's really important, and I think just coming from that
30:47
Speaker 4: perspective for yourself to have knowing when knowing we will
30:51
Speaker 4: do have limits actually sometimes and calling in the support.
30:54
Speaker 4: I was really fortunate my dad actually came over for
30:57
Speaker 4: two weeks to help us, which was really nice and
30:59
Speaker 4: here time connecting with him, he realized how difficult it was.
31:04
Speaker 4: But I think, yeah, it's it's just been kind to
31:08
Speaker 4: our souves a and knowing maybe we can't do it
31:10
Speaker 4: all all at once, but knowing that when people offer
31:13
Speaker 4: support they really mean it and taking it.
31:16
Speaker 1: It's really great.
31:18
Speaker 2: That was going to be my next question actually, because
31:20
Speaker 2: at the moment, we're seeing this huge shift in the
31:23
Speaker 2: professional landscape of like not living to work and not
31:27
Speaker 2: being you know, stuck in that grind all the time,
31:31
Speaker 2: like rise and grind, and you've got to just work, work, work,
31:34
Speaker 2: until you know you see the outcomes that you want
31:36
Speaker 2: to see. And I think it's really refreshing and I
31:39
Speaker 2: think what people are going to love to hear is
31:41
Speaker 2: that you actually get more out of yourself when you're
31:44
Speaker 2: kinder to yourself and when you let yourself enjoy the process,
31:49
Speaker 2: rather than like running to the top of the hill
31:51
Speaker 2: being like okay, now right at the top of the hill,
31:53
Speaker 2: what's next, like and actually, yeah, letting yourself enjoy it
31:57
Speaker 2: and go like, actually, at the end of the day
31:59
Speaker 2: to day, I am to sign off and I'm not
32:01
Speaker 2: just gonna sit on the couch on my emails, like
32:03
Speaker 2: actually signing off and like enjoying your life as well
32:07
Speaker 2: as enjoying your career.
32:09
Speaker 1: M it's really important.
32:11
Speaker 4: And I think at times it ebbs and flows, you know,
32:14
Speaker 4: like sometimes there's just heats going on at work and
32:17
Speaker 4: that's actually like really consuming and exciting and you kind
32:20
Speaker 4: of dive into that, but knowing you need that, like
32:23
Speaker 4: you know that space and between those moments too, And yeah,
32:28
Speaker 4: I really want to make sure I'm a really present
32:30
Speaker 4: mother too, and I try to do that as much
32:32
Speaker 4: as possible. But I can't say I now, but who
32:36
Speaker 4: does putting the phone down?
32:38
Speaker 3: Yeah? Look, I don't really body if who does? And
32:41
Speaker 3: as someone who doesn't have children yet, but like I
32:43
Speaker 3: know I want to. I am genuinely in or because
32:47
Speaker 3: you know, I manage my team and like I adore
32:50
Speaker 3: my partner, but oh my lord, I don't know how
32:53
Speaker 3: we would fit children into the mix. Like how did
32:56
Speaker 3: you know like that the right time was the right
32:59
Speaker 3: time or you just you know what, There's never going
33:01
Speaker 3: to be a right time? Is this something that was
33:03
Speaker 3: so planned?
33:04
Speaker 4: Heaps for so three months after starting shares, he's quitting
33:08
Speaker 4: our full time jobs, having no money coming into the house, I,
33:12
Speaker 4: you know, felt pregnant with ol, so you really planned it. Yeah,
33:16
Speaker 4: so I it's like, but you know, I always yeah,
33:21
Speaker 4: I just I think I've always had that philosophy as
33:23
Speaker 4: it's like, we'll just make it happen, you know, it'll
33:26
Speaker 4: just make it work and we'll figure it out.
33:27
Speaker 1: But I was.
33:28
Speaker 4: Starting to get a little bit worried, and I would
33:30
Speaker 4: talk to other you know, I try to find people
33:34
Speaker 4: who have done this before and see what lessons I
33:36
Speaker 4: could learn. But the thing that helped me heaps was
33:38
Speaker 4: when I was about I must have been thirty seven
33:41
Speaker 4: or thirty eight weeks pregnant with al and I was
33:44
Speaker 4: driving in the.
33:44
Speaker 1: Car and I turn on the radio and I hear
33:46
Speaker 1: just Cinda Doing's pregnant.
33:47
Speaker 2: And I was like, yeah, like that's two powerful women
33:53
Speaker 2: that are pregnant.
33:54
Speaker 1: Well, if she can do it, I definitely can.
33:56
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, that's epic. I'm honestly so inside by
34:00
Speaker 3: her and like I'm very similar to you broke in
34:04
Speaker 3: that there's not many people that I genuinely look up to,
34:06
Speaker 3: Like I love learning from everybody, but there's no one
34:09
Speaker 3: that I would say that I really idolize. And that
34:12
Speaker 3: sadly does include Jacinda, but I really just look at
34:15
Speaker 3: her leadership style and how she's managing work and life
34:19
Speaker 3: and kind of shaking it up, and I'm just like,
34:21
Speaker 3: this is so cool, Like how lucky are we to
34:23
Speaker 3: live in a world where these are our leaders now
34:26
Speaker 3: and we're working towards equality, We are working towards you know,
34:29
Speaker 3: closing the gender pay gap, and there's just so many
34:32
Speaker 3: good things going on, and I'm just always so grateful
34:35
Speaker 3: that I live in a time where I get to
34:37
Speaker 3: experience that and I get to be a part of that,
34:39
Speaker 3: because you know, my parents didn't get to be a
34:42
Speaker 3: part of that. And you know, it's only now that
34:45
Speaker 3: we're really seeing tangible impact and change and women being
34:48
Speaker 3: given the voice that I believe they've always deserved to have.
34:52
Speaker 3: And yet it's just so cool.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, we really need to I really like I feel
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Speaker 1: that right now.
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Speaker 4: It really feel like we really support each other and
35:02
Speaker 4: when one woman rises, we all rise, you know, And
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Speaker 4: I really like that. I do feel earlier on in
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Speaker 4: my career, or maybe at university, it felt like more competition.
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Speaker 4: It can only be one of us, look, you know,
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Speaker 4: and I just don't feel that anymore. And I would
35:14
Speaker 4: love more and more people to be able to shake
35:16
Speaker 4: that feeling and just know that we've got each other's
35:18
Speaker 4: back and we want to succeed, and that more men
35:21
Speaker 4: want us to succeed and get more opportunities to lead
35:24
Speaker 4: and grow businesses or have management positions and be directors
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Speaker 4: of boards and all that.
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Speaker 1: Sort of jazz and get equality there.
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Speaker 3: It's one of those things where I felt like I
35:34
Speaker 3: felt that at UNI, and I feel like I've always
35:36
Speaker 3: been someone who's always been about collaboration, and you know,
35:40
Speaker 3: I was like cool UNI who probably got a bit used.
35:43
Speaker 3: Let's be honest. People knew that I'd share my notes
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Speaker 3: with them, and I always took perfect notes, but I
35:48
Speaker 3: was always being like, yeah, cool, Like you can have
35:50
Speaker 3: my notes. I'm more than happy to share because deep
35:53
Speaker 3: down I knew that even if they had the notes,
35:55
Speaker 3: that didn't automatically give them an a plus, because you
35:58
Speaker 3: do have to put in the work. Having the notes
36:00
Speaker 3: and just having access to it doesn't mean you're going
36:03
Speaker 3: to be successful. And you know, in that same breath,
36:06
Speaker 3: that's why I believe that competition doesn't really exist, like
36:10
Speaker 3: the more the merrier, especially in the finance space like
36:14
Speaker 3: here in Australia, eighty percent of people don't invest, and
36:18
Speaker 3: eighty percent of people don't get financial advice. So you know,
36:22
Speaker 3: the more people that are here, the better, the more
36:24
Speaker 3: well serviced to this world is going to be. And
36:26
Speaker 3: I you know exactly what you said, like rising tide
36:30
Speaker 3: lift soul ships and we say that a lot at
36:32
Speaker 3: cheese on the money. In fact, it's a Ryan John
36:34
Speaker 3: quote like we've got to got to point that out here.
36:37
Speaker 3: That's all all him and that's where I got that from.
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Speaker 3: But it's true, Like we just don't subscribe to the
36:43
Speaker 3: notion that anyone's competition, Like it's all about collaboration. There's
36:47
Speaker 3: no right, there's no wrong, it's what works for each individual.
36:51
Speaker 3: And I think that that's what makes it so special
36:53
Speaker 3: and what makes us, you know, a little bit different,
36:56
Speaker 3: that we want to see everybody be successful. We don't
36:59
Speaker 3: want to throw anybody under buses, we don't want people
37:02
Speaker 3: to feel like they're not worthy of you know, sitting
37:05
Speaker 3: at the same table. Then I just think that we are.
37:08
Speaker 3: We're better people when we are open to better experiences
37:11
Speaker 3: and experiencing everybody as opposed to just being like, well
37:15
Speaker 3: I'm right, and this is what I do, and my
37:17
Speaker 3: product is the only product that you know is good.
37:20
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, but that seems really narrow minded. That
37:23
Speaker 3: seems like you don't actually care about the fact that
37:26
Speaker 3: everybody has a diverse experience. And yeah, I just I
37:29
Speaker 3: really like hearing that from other people because you know,
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Speaker 3: collaboration over competition every day of the week.
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Speaker 4: You know, we just got so much more, yeah change
37:39
Speaker 4: to see in this world. And when more and more
37:41
Speaker 4: people are being able to participate and investing and being
37:45
Speaker 4: able to develop their wealth, then we'll be able to
37:48
Speaker 4: start seeing like there's intergenerational wealth get close and reducing
37:52
Speaker 4: inequality and more and more people participating. And then then
37:55
Speaker 4: when people are investing with their own values and beliefs
37:58
Speaker 4: and goals in mind, that can start influencing the businesses
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Speaker 4: that they own and people put their money. And I'm
38:03
Speaker 4: just really excited about seeing the future where there are
38:06
Speaker 4: way more equal opportunities, whether it be in businesses and.
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Speaker 1: Investing and beyond.
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Speaker 4: Really so it's a really exciting future and I'm really Yeah,
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Speaker 4: it's great to be able to come here.
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Speaker 1: And talk to you and your community today.
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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, thank you for joining us. I think
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Speaker 3: that's actually the perfect place to leave best Brook. I
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Speaker 3: love everything about what you guys do and what you
38:30
Speaker 3: personally stand for, and no, it's it's just so inspiring
38:34
Speaker 3: to see other women who are real about their journeys
38:37
Speaker 3: and other women who you know, we didn't all set
38:40
Speaker 3: up to become CEOs, and I just I want to
38:43
Speaker 3: close this gap on relatability when it comes to people
38:45
Speaker 3: in these leadership positions, because often they get put on
38:48
Speaker 3: pedestals when in reality, you know, we've worked just as
38:51
Speaker 3: hard as everybody else and found our way into these positions,
38:54
Speaker 3: and you know, we still have problems finding daycare, we
38:57
Speaker 3: still have you know, kids that cry, and you know
39:01
Speaker 3: are not fitting into their new environments, and we're all
39:03
Speaker 3: trying to work out, you know, where we fit in
39:05
Speaker 3: the world, regardless of what our role is. And I
39:07
Speaker 3: think that you know, this has been a really helpful conversation,
39:10
Speaker 3: and I hope that you know, our community draws a
39:13
Speaker 3: lot of inspiration from it as well, because you know,
39:16
Speaker 3: these are the people that are in our community. Like Brook,
39:18
Speaker 3: You're in our community, and you know, being able to
39:20
Speaker 3: share your story is just so special. So thank you
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