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- 0:01Today I want us to talk about solution selling.
- 0:04The reason why I wanted to talk about solution selling is
- 0:06because there are lots of you who are professional salespeople
- 0:09who sell on behalf of an organization, you sell on behalf
- 0:12of your employer, and you don't have the proper idea about what
- 0:15solution selling means. And two days ago, I was
- 0:22currently helping one of my clients interview candidates for
- 0:25a sales role because he's trying to build up his sales team.
- 0:28And somebody on the panel, actually two people on the panel
- 0:31said that they do solution selling.
- 0:32But then after asking them what solution selling was, was clear
- 0:35that they don't understand. In fact, one candidate just said
- 0:39solution selling is SAS. And then he kept quiet.
- 0:43And so I said SAS and then he assumed I didn't know what it
- 0:46mean, what the term meant. And so he just said software as
- 0:50a service and then he kept quiet.
- 0:52So that's the reason why I'm going to make today's podcast
- 0:55just so that if there's if there are other of you who are
- 1:00listening to the podcast right now, you're trying to improve
- 1:02your sales and you think you're doing solution selling just
- 1:06because you're selling SAS, which is software as a service.
- 1:12Let's just say I'm making today's episode just to educate
- 1:14more of you who are out there. What is solution selling?
- 1:17What exactly goes into solution selling?
- 1:20Why is solution selling good? What is SAS?
- 1:22What is software as a service? And then how can solution
- 1:26selling be used to make you a better person if you are selling
- 1:30SAS software as a service? So for those of you who are my
- 1:34regular listeners and who are not used to me making very
- 1:37technical episodes, I beg, don't be upset for today, but just
- 1:42keep listening because some of the things we're going to talk
- 1:43about will be useful to helping you sell well in your own in
- 1:50your own business. OK, so let's just get straight
- 1:52to it now, solution selling. So to properly understand
- 1:56solution selling, especially in the Niger context, I want you to
- 1:59imagine something in the good old days.
- 2:02OK, maybe not the good old days, but if you think a couple of
- 2:06generations back, you know, 3456 generations back when people
- 2:11were trying to sell, the focus was always on the product that
- 2:15they're trying to sell. So if somebody was trying to
- 2:18sell Eugene Cheng Okada, the person was focusing on the
- 2:22Okada. If somebody was trying to sell
- 2:24you a photocopier, the person was focusing on the photocopier.
- 2:29And then for those of us who watch, you know, regular
- 2:32Nigerian TV, this is advert by this guy.
- 2:36Babyface tell you Babyface. Yeah, Babyface Coleman cables,
- 2:41Loma durable. So, so, so, so you know, and
- 2:44then they're singing and that dancing.
- 2:46The focus is on the cable. Buy this cable because this
- 2:50cable is the best, The cable is the strongest, the cable is the
- 2:53longest. The cable is made in Nigeria.
- 2:55The cable is the cable. See, the focus is on the
- 2:58product. So in Nigeria, lots of times
- 3:01that people are trying to sell, they're focusing on the product.
- 3:05A wedding photographer who is trying to toast the bride will
- 3:07be focusing on the product. My photo is the best, my camera
- 3:11is the best, my this is the best, the brightest, the newest,
- 3:15the fanciest, the longest, the oldest, the newest, the fastest,
- 3:18the, you know, whatever the focus is on the product.
- 3:23Now that kind of selling is not bad, but ultimately that is all
- 3:26what not what makes you a good salesperson because people are
- 3:31not buying everything, but people are buying a result.
- 3:35So the bride who is talking to a wedding photographer is not
- 3:39buying the fact that you have the newest camera.
- 3:42You can use that to wow her, but ultimately she's buying your
- 3:45services not just because of your camera.
- 3:49Now people who use Coleman cables, the one that tells you
- 3:52baby faces advertising, if they use it, it's because Coleman
- 3:55cables will help them solve a problem.
- 3:57Not because Coleman cable is the best or because it's the longest
- 4:01or because it's the fastest or because it is Nigeria based.
- 4:04It is homegrown. They're buying it to solve a
- 4:07solution. Now that is exactly what
- 4:09solution selling is. Solution selling just means when
- 4:13we're in front of somebody, we're trying to figure out what
- 4:15is this person's problem, what is the solution that they're
- 4:18looking for. Then when we find out what the
- 4:21problem is, we can now see this is how my product or service
- 4:26solves your problem. Therefore you should buy.
- 4:29So it's a much more superior way of selling.
- 4:31So if you sell cars and somebody comes to your car lot and you
- 4:35say we have Honda Civic 2028 model tier robber, we have
- 4:42Chrysler, Chrysler so so so and so 2026 model brand new.
- 4:47We have Mitsubishi Mitsubishi this dot dot dot dot dot 2030
- 4:53version. See the thing here brand new
- 4:55straight direct from factory. If that is how you're trying to
- 5:00sell, buy this car because it is brand new.
- 5:02It has five seats, it has six seats.
- 5:04It has superior AC. It has satellite GS navigation,
- 5:08automatic brake lock, something you know all those fancy, fancy
- 5:11stuff. If that's what you're doing,
- 5:12you're doing product selling. It's not bad.
- 5:17It's just that to increase the chances of you getting a sale,
- 5:19you actually need to figure out who this person is, what's come
- 5:22on to the car lot, what the problem is that they're facing.
- 5:25Then you will not be able to recommend the correct car.
- 5:27So somebody comes on to the car lot.
- 5:30You say welcome to so, so, so and so motors.
- 5:32How can I help you today? You keep quiet.
- 5:34The person will say I'm looking for a car, so I no problem.
- 5:37As you can see, Sir, we have over 2000 cars on this my brand
- 5:42lot. But before I start showing you
- 5:44one or two things, I need to ask you a couple of questions.
- 5:46To know your taste in car or to know your style in car or to
- 5:50know exactly what's going on. Then we'll know how we're going
- 5:52to recommend work. I will show you so size that.
- 5:56OK. The person will say yes, OK, no
- 5:57problem. Then the first question was is
- 5:59OK, Sir, this car they are buying, is it for you or is for
- 6:02Madam? And you start the conversation
- 6:05that way. The person says, oh, the car is
- 6:06above Madam. In this case, you'll be asking
- 6:08him questions about him. You'll be asking him questions
- 6:10about what Madam likes or the kind of car he would like, you
- 6:14know, for Madam to have. Or if he says no, it's not for
- 6:18me, it's not for Madam, it's for Mumsy.
- 6:19You know the conversation will switch entirely.
- 6:21But you can see that by asking the person now how can I help
- 6:24you today? Or is the car for you, Abby's
- 6:26for another person. You're already on the right
- 6:29track because if the person comes, you look at the guy up
- 6:33and down, you think the guy is a big boy.
- 6:35You know, like me for instance, because I look fresh and I'm a
- 6:37fine boy. So when people see me, they
- 6:39assume that I'm a big boy. So automatically, you know, they
- 6:42see me, they say big boy, they will be carrying me to show
- 6:44Jeep. Meanwhile, if I'm trying to buy
- 6:46the car for wifey, and of course my wife doesn't like Jeeps
- 6:49because she's kind of on the small side, you will see that I
- 6:53will stay on the parking lot for 45 minutes.
- 6:56You show me different kinds of cars, I will leave.
- 6:59But honestly speaking, you never had a chance of closing the sale
- 7:02because you had absolutely no idea what I was thinking about.
- 7:05None. You had zero idea what I was
- 7:07thinking about. Solution selling just means
- 7:09let's figure out who this person is.
- 7:11What's the problem that they're facing.
- 7:13Now that I know the problem, how can we use our product or
- 7:17service to give this person a solution?
- 7:19So the focus is not on my car, the focus is not on what I'm
- 7:23selling. The focus is what is the problem
- 7:26and then you now see can I fix it?
- 7:28If the answer is yes, you will not show the person, say boss,
- 7:31this is how we can fix your problem.
- 7:32You will do 1 like this should go down like that.
- 7:35And if you want 1 like this, you'll use this product.
- 7:37If you want one like that, you will use this product.
- 7:39If you want 1 like this, you will use this service.
- 7:41If you want one like that, you will use that service.
- 7:44That is solution selling. So Nigerian salespeople who sell
- 7:51software and who work for other people, all of you running
- 7:54around saying that you're doing solution selling just because
- 7:57you sell SAS is no guarantee. It's not a guarantee that you're
- 8:02doing solution selling. Because a lot of you who say
- 8:04you're doing solution selling, what do you actually do?
- 8:06You say buy my company's ERP because the ER, ERP is, sorry,
- 8:13enterprise resource planning solution.
- 8:15So basically it's a group of I will say now softwares or
- 8:19applications that companies can use to make their businesses run
- 8:22better. So they can buy human resource
- 8:24solutions so that they can, you know, train people, hire people,
- 8:27fire people. They can buy accounting
- 8:29solutions so that they can track expenditure, track profit, track
- 8:31this, track that you know, they can hire, they can use CRM
- 8:37solutions, that's customer relationship management tools so
- 8:40that they can keep data on their customers, things like that.
- 8:42You know, different kinds of things.
- 8:43They, you know, ERP. So those of you who are selling
- 8:47SAS, for instance, who are trying to sell ERP, you say
- 8:49you're doing solution selling, but I say what you do is you
- 8:51walk up the customer and you say buy from me because I'm the Best
- 8:55Buy from me because I'm the brightest.
- 8:56Buy from me because I'm the cheapest, buy from me because
- 8:59I'm the fastest, buy from me because that is not solution
- 9:02selling. You're making everything about
- 9:05you and you're making everything about the product.
- 9:06That is not solution selling at all at all at all at all.
- 9:10So to do solution selling when you show up or when somebody
- 9:13show up to your shop, to your websites, to your Instagram DM,
- 9:17to your WhatsApp handle or to whatever, what you're trying to
- 9:20do is you are trying to diagnose.
- 9:23That's the reason why I say to sell effectively, we have to
- 9:26pretend to be a medical doctor. The first thing you're trying to
- 9:29do is try and diagnose. Is there a problem?
- 9:31What is the problem? Sorry about the noise in the
- 9:34background. I'm making today's recording
- 9:35just outside church because my kids have catechism.
- 9:41So yeah, first we're trying to do is to diagnose.
- 9:45Now there are certain elements that are involved in solution
- 9:47selling. Number one is discovery.
- 9:49Discovery is when you are asking questions about the problem,
- 9:54you're really trying to figure out what the problem is.
- 9:57I'm sorry, questions about the person or about the problem.
- 10:00So you don't start by saying it. You don't say bye from me
- 10:02because I'm the best. You start with questions because
- 10:04you're trying to understand this person, this person's business
- 10:07environment, this person's personal problems, this person's
- 10:09business goals, their personal goals, you know all this.
- 10:13You're trying to get to the heart of the issue.
- 10:14So if somebody comes to the car park, it's not just a matter of
- 10:18so I say car park your car lot. It's not just a matter of saying
- 10:20our Bros come here. Let me show you this Toyota 4
- 10:23Runner 2026 model, correct, straight from the factory from
- 10:27Japan, AC tight. You ask questions first because
- 10:32sometimes a guy comes to the car park.
- 10:34So your car lot, you want to show him Toyota 4 Runner 2026
- 10:39model straight from Japan. That's what you want to show
- 10:42him. But what if the guy is a BMW
- 10:45boy? Because you know, our butcher
- 10:46boys are like that. You know, that's how much our
- 10:48boys are BMW boys. That's all that makes these best
- 10:51boys. So if somebody comes to your
- 10:55your your car lot, the person is the miss this boy or the person
- 10:57is a BMW boy, but you're showing him Toyota 4 Runner 2026 model
- 11:02because it's brand new because of why?
- 11:04And you think you're going to sell the car.
- 11:06No solution selling, please solution selling.
- 11:09Who is this person? We start with discovery.
- 11:13What's going on? Is it that their car spoiled?
- 11:15So they want a brand new car No problems.
- 11:16It's a Bros which can't call you the control before that's what
- 11:19you're asking. So if the guy said that normally
- 11:23normally in the move master vehicle, you know Mazda,
- 11:26Mitsubishi, you know that kind of car.
- 11:27Why are you showing him Toyota? Why are you showing him as this?
- 11:34If normal, normal, the guy they pull messed these beds, you
- 11:36know, but he's here to talk about a car for his wife.
- 11:39You know, she's a baby girl, you know, so she likes all these
- 11:42brand new, soft, soft, soft Honda Civic, you know, sweet,
- 11:45sweet ones, you know, 2025 model, 2026 model.
- 11:49You know all those very clean, clean, cute, cute cars, very
- 11:52cute cars. You know that's the problem that
- 11:55they're trying to solve. Then why are you showing this
- 11:58guy messed these beds? Why?
- 12:01So discovery, That's what you do.
- 12:04It doesn't matter whether you're an architect or you sell cars or
- 12:07you sell software or you sell whatever.
- 12:09Discovery is step one, somebody slide into your DM Discovery.
- 12:12Somebody enter into your shop, Discovery.
- 12:15You enter inside the person's office.
- 12:16Discovery, the person comes to your office, Discovery.
- 12:19Anyhow, you jam the person. Discovery, you will meet inside
- 12:22the marketplace for the first time, discovery, You will jam at
- 12:25the PTA meeting. The person says, oh, I'm looking
- 12:27for a fashion designer and you a fashion designer.
- 12:30You don't say, oh, let me show you my catalog.
- 12:32No, first thing is discovery. Who is this person?
- 12:35What are their personal problems?
- 12:37What are their business problems?
- 12:38What are their personal goals? What are their business goals?
- 12:41What is any K leg? What is any commander they're
- 12:43facing in their life right now? You find that information out
- 12:46first. Then after that, you will now
- 12:47know what it is that you recommend.
- 12:49It is after they can now say check my catalog.
- 12:51Or else you'd be in a situation where you'd be showing somebody
- 12:54picture of skinny jeans like me, for instance.
- 12:56You know, skinny jeans, they rain now, you know, I don't see
- 13:00how skinny jeans is raining amongst guys because that thing
- 13:03is just absurd. You know, especially guys my
- 13:06size and I'd be wearing skinny jeans like what the hell, Like
- 13:09why? That's not how God designed us.
- 13:13Why should a man be wearing skinny jeans?
- 13:14But anyway, so somebody will say, oh God, come and see
- 13:17design. Do now be showing me skinny
- 13:19jeans. Do I look like a skinny jeans
- 13:20guy to you? Ask me what I like first.
- 13:23What if he's Boo Boo? I like to wear, you know, all
- 13:25these big, big, big something. And by the way, yes, that's why
- 13:27I like to wear loose clothes. Ask, well, I go to some places,
- 13:33people be showing, showing me a senatorial.
- 13:36Why are you? Why are you showing me
- 13:37senatorial something? Did I tell you I want to look
- 13:39senatorial? You ask a person what it is that
- 13:42they like first, then you now start showing them.
- 13:45These are the things that make it possible for us to close the
- 13:48deal no matter what it is that we do.
- 13:49So if you're a fashion stylist and you're struggling, that's
- 13:51the reason why is because you like senatorial.
- 13:54So every single man that comes into your shop, you are showing
- 13:56them senatorial and you're trying to collect 500 Q to sew 1
- 13:59senatorial for them. Meanwhile, the person you're
- 14:01talking to, maybe the guy just likes kaftan, so you should have
- 14:06been sending him Kaftan right from the get.
- 14:08But The thing is, you've made-up your mind.
- 14:09Senatorial is the best. Therefore anybody that enters
- 14:12into your shop. Senator, Senator.
- 14:14Senator. No, some people like Kaftan,
- 14:18some people like, what's this one called?
- 14:22Is it Guinea? Guinea?
- 14:23Some I can't remember. Anyway, I think the thing looks
- 14:24nice and quite frankly, I like it.
- 14:26I used to wear a lot as a teenager.
- 14:28But The thing is, you know, nowadays I say no, this is what
- 14:30our people say. No, that is old school, you
- 14:33know, it's just that you don't have to be an obedient husband.
- 14:37Now, I can't wear the kind of thing that my wife would like,
- 14:39you understand? Where was I?
- 14:44So discovery, that's the first thing you do.
- 14:47Now we're trying to identify their problems.
- 14:50All right. Then also the because we're
- 14:55trying to solve a problem for them, essentially what we're
- 15:01going to be talking about over time will just be value, value,
- 15:03value value value value, value. No price value just means the
- 15:07benefits or the results or the whatever that somebody gets from
- 15:10using your own product or service.
- 15:13So OK, let me use DSTV because somebody asked me one time that
- 15:19we DSTV package. Do you have I called it, the guy
- 15:21said in this economy. Then the person started talking
- 15:25about his own solutions, how he uses Netflix for him and his
- 15:29wife, and I can't remember what else.
- 15:31But you see, at the end of the day, it's not about price, his
- 15:36value. Some people buy DSTV of a
- 15:38certain package because as far as I concerned, the value is
- 15:42worth it. My wife will watch on this
- 15:44bouquet, but you don't watch on this bouquet.
- 15:46Me, I'll watch on this bouquet value.
- 15:49Another person will say what how much on top DSTV when we can do
- 15:55is just buy data bundle this amount, buy Netflix this amount,
- 15:59buy that, that this amount. And yes, it makes sense.
- 16:02But honestly, the problem that I have with that kind of modular
- 16:05watching Netflix and everything is number one.
- 16:07I have no control over the children are watching and me,
- 16:10I'm not the kind of person that likes to allow my children just
- 16:12be free on the Internet anyhow, supervised time.
- 16:17I'd like to know what my kids are watching.
- 16:19So the TV is there. All of us are here.
- 16:21You want to watch what put it on the TV.
- 16:24We will watch this thing together.
- 16:26Let me see what my children are watching.
- 16:29So for some other person, DSTV so so so amount waste of money.
- 16:33But for some other people know they're getting value.
- 16:35But if you're trying to sell home entertainment services or
- 16:38whatever, like you won't know until you start asking people
- 16:41what it is that they value. So sorry, let me check the time.
- 16:49How how much time have we been recording?
- 16:52Oh, 16 minutes. OK, let me try and bring this
- 16:54into a close. Let's not be here for for too
- 16:56long. So solution selling.
- 16:59Yeah. You're not focusing on your
- 17:02product, You're not focusing on your price, you're not focusing
- 17:04on your specs, you're not focusing on your whatever.
- 17:07The focus will always be. What is the pain point for the
- 17:10customer? What are they suffering or what
- 17:12are they enjoying? What do they want to enjoy or
- 17:14what do they want to stop suffering?
- 17:16That will always be the focus of the conversation and that is how
- 17:19we'll determine what it is that we'll sell.
- 17:21And one of the candidates for the interview, that is where she
- 17:23shown well because she comes from the background where she
- 17:27was selling computer accessories and stuff.
- 17:31So I told her, OK, no problem, your customer pretend that I
- 17:35enter into your DM and I say give me JBL speakers.
- 17:38And she handled the conversation well.
- 17:41She handled it well. She started off by saying that
- 17:45Olga, we have JBL of different of different cost, different
- 17:48size, we have the JBL. So, so, so down is 90K, we have
- 17:52the JBL, blah blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 17:54Down is about 250K. But Olga before I give you
- 17:58recommendation which one should buy, I need to know yourself.
- 18:00What are you using this speaker for?
- 18:02What do you even use speaker for?
- 18:04You see where she started the conversation?
- 18:07I say I'm a customer. I started to your DM.
- 18:09I say give me JBL speaker and she started off by saying JBL
- 18:13speaker day. We get the one way, you know, we
- 18:16get the one that is, you know 90,000.
- 18:18We have the one that is 200 and you know 70 something thousand.
- 18:21But before I make a recommendation for you, I need
- 18:23to know who is using the speaker.
- 18:25Is it you? What do you want to use the
- 18:27speaker for? Bam, very good.
- 18:29By giving a price range in the beginning, you know the way my
- 18:33body language will now know who she's dealing with.
- 18:35If she said 90K and I begin to shake she will now under OK this
- 18:38one is not my customer. But if she say between 90K270K
- 18:43I'm still standing there. She will know the OK there's
- 18:46room. Then she now goes into
- 18:48discovery. Now who they use the speaker?
- 18:50Is he you? Because sometimes people go into
- 18:54shops not to buy speakers for their teenage sons or their
- 18:57teenage daughters. Or maybe, Madam, say, go and buy
- 19:00me speaker from there. You will now start asking
- 19:03questions. Oh, it is not you.
- 19:04Oh, it's for your children. What do your children do?
- 19:07Oh, your son is a gamer. OK.
- 19:09He likes to hook it up to games. OK, What kind of system does he
- 19:12play? He plays PlayStation something.
- 19:15So they, this JBL will not connect well with PlayStation 4.
- 19:20The one that will connect well with PlayStation is this
- 19:22particular line. Can you see the focus is now on
- 19:26solving a somebody's problem. From there, you'll be guiding
- 19:31somebody accordingly. You say that Oga, even though
- 19:33you came here looking for JBL based on what you want to do,
- 19:37you want to make your teenage son happy.
- 19:39The guy likes to play game. JBL no, go solve that problem.
- 19:42So a guy we should be looking at this line.
- 19:44You'll see now how or guy will be looking at you or guy will be
- 19:48looking at you as a very specialist, as a very
- 19:50professional somebody that is how in the future if there's any
- 19:53problem, anything speaker related or guy will say, call
- 19:57this babe. She will sort you out.
- 20:02That is how you get a reputation for being a professional
- 20:06Nigerian salespeople. Those of you who sell for other
- 20:09people, please be letting you know this is how you make
- 20:12yourself stand out as a professional.
- 20:15Excuse me it's not by saying buy my JBL.
- 20:18My JBL is the best is the newest is the fastest from Japan is
- 20:22American use. These ideas are that no solution
- 20:26selling. The focus is not on the product.
- 20:29The focus is on the customer's pain point.
- 20:33You are a trusted advisor. You are a consultant from today,
- 20:37henceforth, anybody listening to this podcast now tell yourself
- 20:41beat yourself on the chest, tap yourself on the chest.
- 20:43Bam bam bam. Tell yourself I am a consultant,
- 20:47I'm a trusted advisor, I'm a consultant.
- 20:49I am not a peddler. There's nobody who is listening
- 20:52to this podcast now who should be a peddler.
- 20:54You should not be peddling anything.
- 20:56You are a consultant no matter what it is you sell.
- 20:59Even if you sell bleaching soap, bleaching cream, you are a
- 21:02consultant. Somebody should not come into
- 21:05your shop, slide into your DM and they say buy this carrot
- 21:07soap, buy this purple soap is the best to bring out your true
- 21:10color, your true color. Instead of just saying buy this
- 21:14purple soap, you bring out your true color.
- 21:16Ask the lady first Thank you for coming to chair makers beauty
- 21:19secrets Something something something yes, we have purple
- 21:22soap and different all kinds of brands available.
- 21:24But before I make a recommendation for you, I beg I
- 21:26need to ask you some questions. So I know that I recommend the
- 21:29correct cream for you because my sister this purple soap is very
- 21:33good. But there are some people that
- 21:34they use this purple soap their skin will just born.
- 21:38They go born. They will do them like acid.
- 21:42The girl say really? You say yes.
- 21:44So I need to know your skin tone.
- 21:46I need to know your skin type. I need to know what you're
- 21:48looking for. I need to know you know.
- 21:49So if I assist, I hope you don't mind.
- 21:52Let's just do video call now. Let me even see you first and
- 21:54then we'll now do the something. Say hey, I must do video call
- 21:57and assist. I will help if I see your skin.
- 21:59So OK, no problem. Now switch to video call.
- 22:01That is how you sell. You're not a bedler.
- 22:05It's not a matter of buy this purple cream, it is the best.
- 22:07Buy this tomato cream. It is the Best Buy this carrot
- 22:10cream, it is the best. No, you're a consultant, please
- 22:16now, the reason why this matters is because nowadays char GPT day
- 22:19Google day everything day, Google Gemini day everything.
- 22:23If the person just needs information, we'll just go on
- 22:25the Internet and search. That's it.
- 22:29If somebody sliding to your DMI say, oh, this JBL something
- 22:31something is the greatest is from Japan is something
- 22:33something water exist and blah blah.
- 22:35If it's just on that level, the person will say, OK, thank you.
- 22:37Let me think about it. They will go on Google Now and
- 22:39start searching JBL speaker, how much JBL speaker price versus
- 22:46specifications. They will start searching.
- 22:49Is it easier now that we have AI tools?
- 22:51The person will just go to Google Gemini and type in how
- 22:54much is a JBL speaker in Nigeria and then from there continue
- 22:57scrolling, scrolling and learning.
- 23:01So that's why this matters today.
- 23:04People can find the information any which way that they want.
- 23:08People come to us because I have a problem and we're going to
- 23:12help them solve that problem. We're going to give them a
- 23:15solution. So that's the reason why I keep
- 23:18talking a lot about spin selling on this podcast.
- 23:22So excuse me. You have to ask questions to
- 23:25understand the current state. You have to ask questions to get
- 23:29to the pain point. You have to ask questions to
- 23:33figure out the implications or the consequences.
- 23:36Now look, we don't solve this problem by social sound.
- 23:38So is it a problem, OK, if I'm not able to hit this target, how
- 23:41will you stop you from doing this?
- 23:42Like you need to figure out whether this is a serious
- 23:45problem because people only pay money for serious problems.
- 23:51Anyway, Let us say that. OK, let me just kill it here
- 23:59because I've been talking for too long.
- 24:02Like what I said on top of the episode, SAS just stands for
- 24:04software as a service. So if you're selling software as
- 24:07a service, it doesn't mean necessarily that you're doing,
- 24:09see you're doing a solution selling.
- 24:13Now for those of you who don't understand, so excuse me,
- 24:16recovering from the gold. So for those of you who don't
- 24:18understand software as a service just means, OK, Now when I saw
- 24:24my first computer when I was about 18, let's say 7/17/18,
- 24:32family friend, Father Francis, a priest, he had this Toshiba,
- 24:36Toshiba, some I can't remember the Toshiba core computer.
- 24:39Then he was going to be posted abroad.
- 24:42His religious order was sending him abroad for, for further
- 24:46studies, I think for masters or PhD or something like that.
- 24:50And so he was like, oh, they're going to buy me a new computer.
- 24:52And I was like, oh, OK, can I have this?
- 24:54And the guy said yes. And I was happy.
- 24:57So you never know ask you might receive and that's it.
- 25:02So 1718, that's when I saw my first computer.
- 25:05Now back in those days, if we wanted to do anything, you had
- 25:07to go to Ikeja Computer Village on that bridge.
- 25:10You now go and buy CD. You will now take that CD-ROM,
- 25:14you now put it inside. You don't take that CD, put it
- 25:16inside your CD-ROM in the side of your computer, you just press
- 25:191 button to open. You now put the CD inside, press
- 25:23the button, it will close. The thing will now start to run.
- 25:26It will now load up then from that CD, you now download the
- 25:31software and start using. Some of you don't have
- 25:35absolutely no idea what I'm saying.
- 25:37I understand perfectly. You know, it was, it was a while
- 25:40ago, but go and ask your older brother or go and ask your dad.
- 25:43You know he will tell you that back then in Niger, when we
- 25:46needed to do something, if you wanted to watch him, you'll go
- 25:50to Computer Village, you go and buy the CD.
- 25:52You plug it into your, you put it into CD-ROM and they start
- 25:55watching film. If you wanted to download, if I
- 25:59wanted to use Photoshop and Photoshop, for instance, you
- 26:03take bus, go to computer village on that bridge, Ikeja.
- 26:06You now go and buy the physical CD and then you now put it
- 26:09there. You'll now discover that the CD
- 26:11of course is pirated because I mean, who sells original
- 26:14software in Niger, at least back in those days?
- 26:16Next, you now start looking for somebody who has the code, the
- 26:18code to to to to what do they call this in again, you find
- 26:25somebody shot that has a code to unlock.
- 26:26Is it unlocking to unlock the software?
- 26:29So there was a time when everything we had to do was
- 26:32physical. Physical you go and buy physical
- 26:35CD or you want by like my first soft software that I used to
- 26:41learn how to type. It came on a floppy disk.
- 26:45Floppy disk. In fact, some of you, I've never
- 26:47seen it. See if I'm saying all these
- 26:49things, you've never heard of it before, just go and Google it or
- 26:51go and use video YouTube so they can see what these things look
- 26:55like. So that's how you used to be
- 26:57back in the day. So that's how I learned how to
- 26:58type. I got a program on a floppy disk
- 27:01I plugged into my Toshiba, downloaded the software and
- 27:04that's how I started learning how to type.
- 27:07So that's the old way. The old way was everything was
- 27:10physical, physical. Now, nowadays to use software,
- 27:15what you do is you download the theme straight from the
- 27:19Internet. Essentially it's like you are
- 27:22renting the software, then every single year you'll be paying
- 27:25them license renewal fee or you know, whatever it is.
- 27:30Shall I be paying them something?
- 27:32So SAS is like Netflix, you hear me?
- 27:36So in the old days, remember I said if you wanted to watch
- 27:38theme, you go to computer Village, you buy physical CD,
- 27:43then you slot it into your DVD player or you put it into your
- 27:46computer, you put into your DVD ROM, you now watch theme.
- 27:50Nowadays you want to watch theme.
- 27:52What you do is you go online, you download Netflix, you pay
- 27:58them, you know, 5K7K monthly or whatever.
- 28:01You now start watching theme. At the end of the month, you
- 28:06give them another 5K, give them another 5K, give them another
- 28:095K. For some products, it is at the
- 28:12end of 365 days. You now pay again, that is
- 28:18software as a service. We're not doing anything
- 28:21physical anymore. We're paying.
- 28:23We're paying monthly fees or paying quarterly fees or annual
- 28:27fees or whatever so that we can use certain things.
- 28:31So SAS just means we're using computers, we're using software
- 28:35to solve our problems. But now instead of downloading
- 28:38on your computer, it's now cloud based.
- 28:40Cloud based just means it's not stored on your computer, it's
- 28:42stored on the server someplace else.
- 28:44And then it's a subscription model.
- 28:46So that means you're paying a monthly fee on annual fee.
- 28:49If you stop paying, you won't get access to those things.
- 28:52So for those of us that used to fool around and you know, make
- 28:55music or edit photos or things like that.
- 28:59So back then, if you wanted Adobe Photoshop, you will go to
- 29:03Computer Village in a catcher on that bridge and you ask around.
- 29:07Eventually you find somebody who has Photoshop, you pay you, you
- 29:10pay him, you collect the CD, you go home reloading your system.
- 29:13Good. You now start to edit your
- 29:16software. But now for my kids, what they
- 29:19say is, oh, we want Adobe software, we have to go online,
- 29:23you know, download the thing, you know, pay and then now they
- 29:27have access to the software. No need to go and start looking
- 29:30for physical or something any sorry for taking a lot of time.
- 29:33But I guess what I wanted to say was this, there are a lot of you
- 29:37Nigerian business, I'm sorry, sales people, you sell on behalf
- 29:40of a company, not half of your employer.
- 29:43You think you're doing solution selling, You're actually not
- 29:44doing solution selling. Yes, you're selling software,
- 29:47but what you're doing actually is product selling because
- 29:49you're telling people buy my software, it is faster than the
- 29:51competitor. Buy my software, it is cheaper
- 29:54than the competitor. Buy my software, it is, it gives
- 29:58you 5 users. Well, my competitor, my
- 30:00competitors only gives you 3 users.
- 30:02What you're doing is you're pitching a product, you're
- 30:04peddling, you're still doing product selling.
- 30:06You are not doing solution selling.
- 30:08If you are doing solution selling, you will tell the
- 30:10personnel, Oh yes, we have all kinds of software that solves
- 30:13these kinds of problems. But before I make a
- 30:15recommendation, I need to know exactly what is going on with
- 30:18you, Sir. So you're asking about ARP.
- 30:21What kinds of problems are you facing in your business, Sir?
- 30:25Oh, OK, You're facing this problem.
- 30:26This problem, which one they took you?
- 30:28Which one is really urgent? Which one they cogent?
- 30:31Oh, this one is causing you to lose like 200 million every
- 30:34single year. Hey, Sir, you don't mean it.
- 30:36That's a lot of money. How did the problem start?
- 30:41OK, like this, OK, Because it's the problem, because it's the
- 30:43problem. By the time you ask all these
- 30:45questions, you can now say, Sir, based on what you have said and
- 30:48based on the fact that we are losing 200 M annual, this is
- 30:51what I recommend. Sir, you go use this software.
- 30:53It will help you like this, like this, like this or option B.
- 30:56You will use this software. You do it like this, like this,
- 30:58like this. Option C, you will use this
- 31:00software, You do it like this, like this, like this.
- 31:02Option A, that will cost you for you and your people.
- 31:06You say that 50 employees you get happy and no problem
- 31:08problem, just annual subscription that will cost you
- 31:11just, you know, $2000 Option C for all of you that will cost
- 31:16you like $1000. The one that is in between now
- 31:18will cost you $1200. So Sir, based on all these
- 31:21options now option A, option B, option C, you know which one?
- 31:24Which one are you feeling that is solution selling?
- 31:29So please, because you sell software, no, run around saying
- 31:33you're doing solution selling, You're not.
- 31:36For those of you who don't sell software, I hope you've learned
- 31:40what solution selling is, why it's applicable, how it's
- 31:44applicable to your business, why it's going to be useful.
- 31:46And that's the reason why I tried to use lots of examples
- 31:48today. So whether you're into fashion,
- 31:51whether you're an architect, whether you're a lawyer, whether
- 31:53you're a wedding photographer, whether you're a consultant,
- 31:56whether you're a doctor, whether you're whatever solution
- 31:58selling, please. But please, if you're listening
- 32:01to this podcast right now, please promise me you will not
- 32:04think of yourself as a peddler. You are a consultant, Please.
- 32:06All right. So tap yourself on the chest.
- 32:09Tap your chest three times as you're listening.
- 32:11Tap your chest now and then repeat after me.
- 32:15Say I am a consultant. Say it again, I am a consultant.
- 32:24So if you sell pimple removing cream, if you sell bleaching
- 32:28soap, you are not a peddler. It is not soap you're selling.
- 32:30You're selling the solution. Tell yourself I am a consultant.
- 32:35So the first thing you do is if somebody sizes your DM and say,
- 32:39do you have acne removing cream, you will just say, yes, we have
- 32:42acne removing cream. We have Mary Kay, we have this.
- 32:45We have Kim Kardashian cream. You know, this one costs $2000.
- 32:50This one costs 500 naira, this one costs this.
- 32:52Which one do you want? You say, sure, we have different
- 32:56kinds of acne cream. But Madam, before I make a
- 33:01recommendation, I need to know exactly what's going on with
- 33:04your with your skin. How bad is this acne?
- 33:07If I can, we do video call. But the times you put on the
- 33:09camera, you look at it, you see that she's not acne.
- 33:11She has eczema you have you tell her.
- 33:13Ah, Madam, no Vexo, this one you have is not acne.
- 33:16It's something that's matter. This one is actually eczema for
- 33:19this one man, there's no amount of cream will solve the problem.
- 33:21But now go and see a doctor. That is how you make yourself
- 33:24stand apart as a professional so that next time the woman needs a
- 33:29plug, she needs bleaching cream, she needs acne removal, or maybe
- 33:35a matani is drying her skin, she needs moisturizer or something.
- 33:38She will think of you first because every other person that
- 33:41she has tried to talk to that she's leading to their DM, every
- 33:44other person was trying to peddle stuff to her.
- 33:46You are the only one who sounded like a credible professional and
- 33:49who tried to solve a problem. So solution selling please.
- 33:52That's what we should all be doing.
- 33:54If you want to see how you can apply solution selling to your
- 33:56business, just give me a call, send me a text message or a
- 33:59WhatsApp message on 08064662140. Apart from that, I have a
- 34:08WhatsApp channel that I just started newly.
- 34:10So if you want to be a part of the WhatsApp channel so that
- 34:12regularly you see updates from me, you know, stuff like that,
- 34:16then call me, send me a text message or a WhatsApp message on
- 34:1908064662140.