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- 0:00Ladies and gentlemen, allow us to reintroduce
- 0:07your hosts, Malcolm the Milkman Noel and Scott
- 0:13the Visionary Home. This is the show where life
- 0:20and sports collide. We'll be right back. What
- 1:27up? Hey, how we doing? We're back. Another week.
- 1:34It's been a while. Like the last, the last like
- 1:38what? 10 days? Yeah. Lots of, yeah. Yeah, other
- 1:44than the hat, yeah, a lot has happened, a lot
- 1:47has changed. Some numbers have been added. Yes,
- 1:53yes. Well, first off, I'm Malcolm the Milkman.
- 1:59And I'm Scott the Visionary Hone. Welcome to
- 2:01Off the Bench. Yeah, let's get it. Let's get
- 2:03it. All right, all right. I'm going to start
- 2:07this off with... Yeah, the people want to know.
- 2:12Okay. I feel great. I feel like I had a great
- 2:16fight. Obviously, it came down to decision. And
- 2:20I was not the victor at the end of this. But
- 2:24I do want to do a huge shout out to Boomers and
- 2:27the staff there. To Mark and his brother for
- 2:30courting me. Honestly, it was the first time
- 2:33that I was in a boxing ring without Dario. Oh,
- 2:38yeah. Dari wasn't in my corner, but I did have
- 2:41Mark who has been in my corner before. So obviously
- 2:45that's a little bit different. But the job, I
- 2:49want to say the job was done because my main
- 2:53goal was to be able to last three rounds. Yeah,
- 2:57well, you did last three rounds. Yes. Cleanly,
- 3:00I think my opponent can say the same thing. He
- 3:04felt it after the third. We did get very sloppy
- 3:07in the third, but you can tell that the effort
- 3:11and even a huge shout out to MPT and for the
- 3:14Punch Out people, honestly. It was a great show.
- 3:18I mixed it up, right? Because I trained with
- 3:20MPT and Boomers and then a little bit of Bushido
- 3:24and a little bit of Ring London. So I had a lot
- 3:26of eyes on me and I know what I need to do to
- 3:30get forward. But like in our group chat, the
- 3:33one thing I'll say is... Punch Out MS was a great
- 3:38show. The downloadable content of the encore
- 3:41show was actually pretty sweet. Like, we had
- 3:46some really good fights. There were some bangers.
- 3:49Like, I only could see, like, a certain point
- 3:51before I had to warm up and all. Yeah. But, man.
- 3:55Well, there was a team from Scotland there. Yeah.
- 4:00And my opponent was actually his background is
- 4:02Scottish. But, yeah. yeah but yeah yeah no that
- 4:07man there were some bangers but uh yeah no i
- 4:11with your when it came to your fight it was uh
- 4:13it was exciting because i know you were you were
- 4:18like oh i want to make sure i feel like you had
- 4:21you had a weird mindset almost you're like i
- 4:23want to get three rounds but also i want to win
- 4:26and it's so hard to do both yeah did you yeah
- 4:30i realized i did both but yeah yeah Yeah, you
- 4:34got three rounds and you got the TKO. Congratulations.
- 4:37And good for you. But like, I don't want to discredit
- 4:39anything my opponent did. No, he studied you.
- 4:43To a T. Yeah, to exactly what to expect. And
- 4:47that's, it's just, that's, that's boxing though.
- 4:52It's for sure. It's, it's short fights. Yeah.
- 4:55If you don't have the gas tank to go full bore
- 5:00the entire fight. It's really hard to put something
- 5:03away late. Those little points matter. Oh, for
- 5:08sure. It doesn't matter how hard you're hitting
- 5:12them. It's true. It just matters if you're connecting
- 5:16clean, you can just keep playing tag out there.
- 5:19As long as they don't put you away, you're going
- 5:21to win. You're not wrong. You're not wrong with
- 5:23that sentiment. It was tough. There was a few
- 5:30things that... in the future i would try to change
- 5:34so much that it can change because like the event
- 5:38is organized the way it is but i got cold waiting
- 5:42to go into the ring because because before but
- 5:45like i'm not trying to say that as an excuse
- 5:47don't get i don't don't get me wrong i'm not
- 5:49trying to because like i try to warm myself up
- 5:51i try to use my theme song to ground me back
- 5:53to like yeah my starting point um but i got cold
- 5:57and then i try i I did what I always do in the
- 6:01first round. Yeah. And my opponent held up together.
- 6:05And I'm not issuing any bad ill will to any of
- 6:11the coaches or... Well, they knew exactly who
- 6:14you are. They were game planning for you. All
- 6:17I will say at this point, at this moment right
- 6:20now, is you haven't seen a lot of me. I had a
- 6:24feeling. I was like, as soon as the decision
- 6:28happened, I was like, well... I know you and
- 6:31I know you're not the kind of person that wants
- 6:32to go out like that. And if anything, that is
- 6:36just fire under you that is going to turn you
- 6:41on like nothing else. I will say this, and Mark
- 6:45said this really, really great. Before he went
- 6:49pro, he lost 10 fights in a row. And then he
- 6:52went pro. But all those losses that he had were
- 6:55learning experiences. And obviously, especially
- 6:59in boxing, we all strive to go undefeated as
- 7:02much as you can. But when you're an amateur,
- 7:06there's no like I view it more humbly now. This
- 7:10is like those losses were like learning experiences.
- 7:12I put in a lot of work for this, but I know I
- 7:15could have put a little bit more. Yeah. Right.
- 7:18Obviously, there's a little bit of politics that
- 7:20went on in the background. Yeah. But. Honestly,
- 7:27if it wasn't for Boomers, I wouldn't have been
- 7:29able to perform the way I did in that match.
- 7:32And I know for a fact that he has a black eye
- 7:36and he's going to work today. So that at least
- 7:40gives me a little bit of a smile that I know
- 7:43I did some serious damage. Yeah. But honestly,
- 7:48though, the encore show was stunning. It was
- 7:53really, really... Well done for like a showcase
- 7:57show. That was cool. Right? So obviously it was
- 8:01at Bushido. For y 'all who don't know. Yeah,
- 8:03shout out to Bushido. And shout out to The Cage
- 8:06for giving all the fighters the back area to
- 8:08warm up in. That was huge. Like all of these
- 8:13little things like that, it's just like, like
- 8:16how I realize it's hard when you're... when you
- 8:21were training in a bunch of different places
- 8:23so everyone's got eyes on you so like there's
- 8:25a lot more tape out there yep yep but it's cool
- 8:29that events like this let everybody come together
- 8:32true and like think about how many businesses
- 8:37how many people put so much effort into these
- 8:41events yep and I think we've raised over 20 fighters
- 8:45alone have raised over 20k exactly That's solidified.
- 8:51And then whatever the 50 -50, the silent auction
- 8:54and all that, that's beyond that. But yeah, for
- 8:58Punchhead MS, I think whether I won or lost,
- 9:02doesn't matter. We as a collective raised over
- 9:0620K. Exactly. We're doing this for a cause. And
- 9:10we achieved as much as we could. 100%. And, like,
- 9:18I'm still posting, like, after this. I know this
- 9:22is a week before, so people, if you still see
- 9:24my message, you will see that I will still post
- 9:27my link so you can donate. Yeah, I think donations
- 9:31are... There might be another... After this episode
- 9:36launches, this might be the last week. Yeah.
- 9:40But I ended up sneaking into second place. Yeah,
- 9:44you were sneaky. I saw that. I was like, oh,
- 9:48damn. Shout out to every single one of y 'all
- 9:52who donated. You guys are the real MVPs. And
- 9:57I wouldn't have been able to go into the ring
- 9:59without all y 'all. Shout out to Flightline Training
- 10:03Services. Thank you. Shout out to, I have to
- 10:07say, Abdul. You know, anytime I'm doing a boxing
- 10:10match, I know I can always count on Abdul. Legend.
- 10:13So well -dressed. Oh, for sure. You know what?
- 10:17I aspire to look like him one day. Good luck.
- 10:21I know I have a lot of work to do, but I know
- 10:24that in the short period of time, I've lost so
- 10:26much weight and I feel so much better about myself
- 10:28that now I was like, you know what, to look like
- 10:31him. I'll never look like him because he keeps
- 10:34working out and keeps getting better and better
- 10:35and better. But a huge shout out to Abdul because
- 10:38he's been one of my day ones since high school.
- 10:41That's why he was one of my groomsmen when I
- 10:43got married. So, like, the way I view it is,
- 10:48a lot of the things I've achieved in life, I
- 10:51wouldn't have been able to do without Abdul.
- 10:53So, I mean, you are, we've said this before,
- 10:56you're the average of the people you hang out
- 10:57with. 100%. And when you hang out with legends.
- 11:00Yep. That's what you, that's what you're becoming.
- 11:03100%. 100%. 100%. That's why it's always so important
- 11:07to, like, just elevate your, like, work on each
- 11:11other. Yes. Yes. And I think that's what, like,
- 11:15This podcast is also like done for both of us.
- 11:19You and I have definitely grown as individuals.
- 11:21You wouldn't have gone into a boxing ring if
- 11:23it wasn't for this podcast. No. Let's be honest.
- 11:26If it wasn't for the podcast, you probably would
- 11:28have never. Yeah, I know. Part of me was like,
- 11:31I've always wanted to. But again, I've always
- 11:36said I didn't have time. I couldn't do this.
- 11:39But. you can like this podcast has made me realize
- 11:44you can always make time for things. And I also
- 11:48knew that, well, if you're doing this and we're
- 11:52doing the podcast, I'm going to end up getting
- 11:55dragged into it anyway. So I might as well just
- 11:57sign up and be fired. Well, at some point we
- 12:00have to lead by example, right? Right. And like,
- 12:04I'm looking forward to how we transition from
- 12:07here. So for all y 'all. This is a sports podcast,
- 12:12life podcast. So we'll just generally talk like
- 12:16normal stuff. We'll just get into some new weird
- 12:20thing next. So we're a full spectrum podcast,
- 12:25as you could say. Who knows? Who knows? The one
- 12:30thing I can definitely say is our production
- 12:32keeps getting better and better and better. That's
- 12:34true. That's true. Now how things are working,
- 12:37we'll be able to... accommodate better guests
- 12:40moving forward um so yeah but like let's let's
- 12:45get let's backtrack a little bit also better
- 12:48guests our guests are fantastic all our guests
- 12:52have been great all our guests all our guests
- 12:54yes that's our goal to accommodate our guests
- 12:58better uh so we don't have audio issues or you
- 13:02know fooling around with things we have a great
- 13:04setup now and we're moving away from a lot of
- 13:07ai tools because We have a better grasp of how
- 13:10everything works now. Yeah. And, you know, shout
- 13:13out to, you know, putting the grind in. And it
- 13:16shows. It's true. Well, hey, if anyone's watching
- 13:20this, watching the video. I got that OG. That's
- 13:25fire, though. That's one of the originals that
- 13:28started the whole dream. Yes. Yes. And, hey,
- 13:34this is how you know it's mine and not yours.
- 13:36That's how it stays. Shut up. I'll make a replacement
- 13:41OGs. You can't replace the OGs. I can replace
- 13:47anything. I'm the owner. You can replace the
- 13:49OGs, but you can't have it made six years ago.
- 13:54I know. Five years ago. Damn. Five years ago.
- 14:00Actually, no. It was in 2020. It was six years
- 14:03ago. Yeah. It was six years ago. But the company
- 14:07actually launched in 2021. Yeah. So. Crazy. It's
- 14:13crazy how things work. But let's backtrack a
- 14:15little bit. Because I know for your episode that
- 14:20launched last week, how y 'all are listening
- 14:26is last week's episode. Mine's are great. It's
- 14:30so true. I feel like I'm in the multiverse of,
- 14:33like, Marvel right now. It's like when we were
- 14:35shooting multiple episodes, but, like, we're,
- 14:37like, shooting one, and then this one comes out
- 14:39before this one. And then we're still trying
- 14:42to do the numbers. We're, like, it's 33, 34,
- 14:4630. I have no idea. We just stopped saying numbers
- 14:50in our podcast. You know, it's almost easier
- 14:53that way. So, obviously, how you went to Music
- 14:58Hall when I was going to Bushido. We had to be
- 15:01there at yeah walk me through the whole experience.
- 15:04Okay. Okay, so Actually, you know what i'll even
- 15:08backtrack even more I went into a few houses
- 15:10or a one house before uh, we even got ready um,
- 15:15so I went and did an open house with like the
- 15:17fam jam, so my sister my wife my dad and we all
- 15:20and Yeah, we all went to like an we went into
- 15:24open house that was of uh You know, always looking
- 15:28at investment opportunities and so forth. So
- 15:30that's the first thing we kind of did. So we
- 15:33did that first. And then I dropped my wife off.
- 15:37And then I went and gone and did my business.
- 15:40And then I tried... No, I tried to get a haircut.
- 15:43Because before every fight, I have a routine
- 15:46of going to get a haircut. And... Right? So I
- 15:52tried to go and hit up a few barbers because
- 15:54I was very last minute. Because the... Seeing
- 15:57the houses and the talking, I lost track of time.
- 16:00So I couldn't go to my one barber. So I had to
- 16:02backtrack and go to another one. Couldn't do
- 16:04that. So shout out to Blessing Hands on Adelaide,
- 16:11who was able to accommodate me very, very well.
- 16:14All right. Didn't cut me the way I really, really
- 16:16wanted to. But that's on me for not preparing
- 16:20accordingly. So I'll make sure that I'll go back
- 16:24to my normal barber when I need one. What do
- 16:27you mean not cutting you the way you go bald?
- 16:29I go bald, but I like my beard cut a certain
- 16:31way. Oh, yeah. And he cut me the way he wanted
- 16:34to. And I kind of told him not to, but he was
- 16:37already cutting. He was like, you know what?
- 16:38It's fine. Yeah. So it is what it is. But blessing
- 16:41hands. It still was a bang up job. It was still
- 16:44lined up accordingly. So that's fine. And then
- 16:48I rushed over to Bushido for 3 .30. And once
- 16:57we all got there, everyone was like kind of getting
- 17:01ready, getting their books, getting their medical
- 17:03sign. And I got to ask you a question about this
- 17:07later. Yeah. So we all got our books signed,
- 17:11got our medical sign and so forth. And you got
- 17:13in a huge line. And during that lineup, my phone
- 17:17was blowing up like crazy. And like, and not
- 17:22from what y 'all expect. Not for the concept
- 17:25of like, yo, good luck, Malcolm. Like I got a
- 17:28few of those, but I never responded. Yeah. Because
- 17:30I don't want to respond bad. Like, yo, I got
- 17:33this or whatever. I don't want to put that bad
- 17:34juju out there. But it was just like, everyone
- 17:38was getting the exact same message across the
- 17:41whole gym at that time. And it's because London
- 17:44was about to get hit with a tornado warning.
- 17:46Oh God. Yeah, that's true. So the tornado warning
- 17:49was going off. Everyone was getting hit by it
- 17:52and so forth. So like, I was just like, but like,
- 17:56I'm inside. So I don't see what's going outside.
- 17:59I don't hear anything. I don't hear the rain.
- 18:00I don't hear anything. So I think everything's
- 18:03hunky dory. It pretty much was. But it's like,
- 18:07be like Amber Alert after Amber Alert after Amber
- 18:10Alert. Amber Alerts are totally different than
- 18:13tornado warnings. You know what I mean? Like,
- 18:15it was like the emergency warning system. Yeah.
- 18:19So. It was going off like crazy. So, you know,
- 18:24we're just going to go for like 10 minutes. Yeah.
- 18:27It's crazy. So I waited till like the end to
- 18:29like send in my form. Of course you did. So did
- 18:33my opponent. So you're just standing next to
- 18:35each other the whole time? Yes. So obviously
- 18:38did my medical. Were you slept? No, I don't care.
- 18:44Then we did our weigh -ins. He was 10 pounds
- 18:48over me. which was fine. It is what it is. It
- 18:54didn't really matter because obviously under
- 18:5740 and your heavy weight, it doesn't really matter
- 19:00about that age or that weight bracket. Went and
- 19:05did a medical. Shout out to Juan Rocosta who
- 19:08did the medicals and made sure everyone was fine
- 19:10and safe. There was one fighter that ended up
- 19:13having to become an exhibition because he didn't
- 19:16meet weight. Oh, yeah. So, unfortunately, that
- 19:20matchup on it didn't... Yeah, because he was
- 19:25told one fight he had to cut, and then it got
- 19:28switched, and then he had to gain. Yeah, the
- 19:31guy that he was fighting had to switch it up,
- 19:34and it was too late to switch. Yeah. That was
- 19:38a really good fight, though. I missed it, so
- 19:40I can't wait to watch it on watchfights .ca.
- 19:44Honestly, there was a few really adorable moments
- 19:46in that fight. Was that the fight when the mouth
- 19:50guard kept coming out? Because that's what I've
- 19:54been hearing. It might have been, but I mean
- 19:56adorable because Alcides was cornering his brother.
- 20:01It's like one of those documentaries. There's
- 20:04going to be a few pictures of the way Alcides
- 20:07is looking at him fighting. He's just happy that
- 20:10his brother's doing something that he's so passionate
- 20:13about. And then the way his brother looks at
- 20:17him while he's, like, coaching him. That's one
- 20:20of those sweet moments. Okay. That's cute. That's
- 20:24great. So, as we were doing that, though, I had
- 20:27an opportunity to see someone in front of me
- 20:31who, like, you can sense her presence the moment
- 20:36she, like, kind of walked in. You kind of see
- 20:38it in, like, the brochure. And that's Andrea
- 20:42Young. was right in front of me. She had headphones
- 20:45on. She's the Guelph fighter. Oh, yeah. Yeah,
- 20:50the Guelph fighter. Yeah, was it Badass, I think?
- 20:56Yeah, Andrea Badass Young. Yeah, no, she's wild.
- 20:59So she had headphones on and she was right in
- 21:01front of me. So obviously I saw the program.
- 21:04I saw who she was. So I had her and send her
- 21:07a message and be like, so you better be listening
- 21:09to Sokka because I know she's Trini. Oh. I was
- 21:13like, y 'all better be listening to Soka. Because
- 21:16in her profile, she has the flag. So I was like,
- 21:20I automatically like game recognize game. So,
- 21:25you know, we had a little bit of a chat and we
- 21:27talked and maybe potentially we'll be able to
- 21:30get her on the podcast because she has an amazing
- 21:31story. But I don't want to blow it here. But
- 21:35she was like, she was like, hey, I'm just doing
- 21:37my relaxing stage and so forth. And, you know,
- 21:39we chatted a little bit and then medicals happen.
- 21:44So at 5 o 'clock, the back area opened up. So
- 21:48I ended up starting to stretch and do my whole
- 21:51game plan. I didn't notice at the time my opponent
- 21:54got seats front row and was just watching all
- 21:57the fights. Yeah. See, I don't know. That's one
- 22:02thing that I did notice. Obviously, you've been
- 22:07putting some work in beforehand. You always think
- 22:14don't waste any energy because you need to save
- 22:18that energy for the fight, especially when it's
- 22:20such a long day. But yeah, no, I saw him out
- 22:25there and I was like, he's just relaxing. Good
- 22:29for him. He had a game plan and his game plan
- 22:33worked and I know exactly what it was. Now that
- 22:36I play it back, I know exactly what his game
- 22:39plan was. Anyone that's seen you fight knows
- 22:43you have a very specific way of fighting. Yeah.
- 22:46And if you can weather that storm, that's that.
- 22:50Well, and like I said, I'll never faunt him.
- 22:53I actually appreciate him because when I was
- 22:56talking to my wife, and I know we're getting
- 22:58ahead of each other. When I was talking to my
- 22:59wife, I was like, you literally met the white
- 23:01version of yourself. Yeah. In a sense. In a sense.
- 23:06Yeah. But I like, it's nice that you got an opponent
- 23:10that. took it seriously put the work in you see
- 23:16that and it shows like no like knocking off your
- 23:20previous opponents but they're like there's a
- 23:24reason why i was still itching to get it back
- 23:27into that range to understand what everyone else
- 23:29was there's a reason why you left those fights
- 23:31going like oh i want you almost feel cheated
- 23:35yeah I don't want to say I felt cheated, but
- 23:38yes. Yeah. This was the first time I was just
- 23:40like. You're like, you got to put it all in.
- 23:42Yeah. And it was a war. But shout out to all
- 23:47the fighters. Man, there was some awe. Man, you
- 23:50know what? And like, I want to say a huge shout
- 23:53out to Connor. Yeah. Because Connor on your show
- 23:55had to go against Noah and his emotions caught
- 24:00up to him in the third round. Yeah. But he went
- 24:03against Rashid. He wants it so bad. It is. Like,
- 24:08I respect that guy so much. Conor did an amazing
- 24:11job in the ring. And as long as he can keep his
- 24:15composure. Fighting two weeks in a row, too.
- 24:18Especially after the result that happened at
- 24:22the first punch out. As soon as I saw him on
- 24:28the program again, I was like, oh, all right.
- 24:31And honestly, this fight was a lot more evilly
- 24:34matched. Yes. It was strategic. It was great
- 24:39because Rashid had his own style. He wasn't like
- 24:43a powerhouse like Noah, but he was like jab,
- 24:46keeping his distance, attacking accordingly.
- 24:49At the third round, he did get in Conor's brain.
- 24:52And then I always say like he goes, Conor goes
- 24:55ape shit in round three. And he was getting there.
- 24:59But he wasn't as mad. I think Connor likes to
- 25:05do the Max Holloway thing. Like point of the
- 25:08ground and go, let's go, let's bang one out.
- 25:12And the problem is he tried to do that in his
- 25:19first fight. But he was already banged up and
- 25:24exhausted. So it doesn't it doesn't have the
- 25:28same effect when you're that gassed true true
- 25:33like well When you're trying to Like end it in
- 25:39the third round. It is Exhausting you're like
- 25:41you feel like you got nothing left. Hey, I try.
- 25:44Yeah, I'm not trying to get ahead myself Yeah,
- 25:47anyway, so Connor and then another fight that
- 25:50I was I was caught off by the the record but
- 25:53another person who I need to do a huge shadow
- 25:56to is t T yeah, I know he got the loss in that
- 26:01fight That was such a close fight. It was such
- 26:05a great fight to watch. Um And honestly, like
- 26:09he had to take a little time off because he just
- 26:12had a child So, like, obviously. Oh, that's why.
- 26:15Because he was there a lot. And then he. Disappeared
- 26:17because they had to take care of his family.
- 26:19Yeah. Families first. Families first. So then
- 26:22he came back into the ring. And you can tell
- 26:25he put in the work. And when he didn't get the
- 26:27result that he wanted, the emotions caught up
- 26:31to him. Yeah. And he couldn't control it. And
- 26:34unfortunately, like, and I get it. And I do go
- 26:38back to what Mark says is he went into the ring.
- 26:4210 times in his amateur career and lost and almost
- 26:46thought that boxing wasn't for him. But those
- 26:49losses were learning experience. Like those wins
- 26:51are learning experience. Your ego starts catching
- 26:55up to you when you have, if you go undefeated
- 26:57in your amateur, then you hit the real world.
- 27:00It's like, it's like the left. Have your awakening.
- 27:04It's the same lessons. Like when you go to school
- 27:06and you get all these A's and then the real world.
- 27:10comes at you and you're like oh i can't just
- 27:13like re get my marks like upgrade or i can't
- 27:17redo that test to get that eight like the real
- 27:20world hits you that's how like professional versus
- 27:23amateur this is where you can hone your skills
- 27:26learn get multiple people telling you fix this
- 27:30do your cardio work on your job get more touches
- 27:34this is where you do all the work because your
- 27:37amateur record does not actually matter Oh, exactly.
- 27:41You know what I mean? You know. Yeah. I know
- 27:45that feeling. But go ahead. I know that feeling.
- 27:50But go ahead. So then there was that fight. Mackenzie's
- 27:55fight was great. Yeah. Andrea Young's fight was
- 28:00disgusting. It was amazing because she was very
- 28:06strategic for the first two. And same with her
- 28:09opponent as well. Like, her opponent did a very
- 28:11good job as well. But that third round when it
- 28:14was just haymaker after haymaker, and it was
- 28:17just like, man, you have amazing cardio to be
- 28:22able to, like, last that long and be able to,
- 28:24like, bang that hard. Like, it was intense. But
- 28:29it was a great learning experience for both,
- 28:31right? Because Anja, this was, like, one of her
- 28:33first times to be fighting outside of her...
- 28:37home area right yeah you got to respect all the
- 28:41fighters to like travel to go to these fights
- 28:43because like they didn't need to come participate
- 28:48in a charity event true they didn't need to come
- 28:51they wanted to come because they were like oh
- 28:54this is an opportunity to come to show up with
- 28:59people that haven't been doing this forever that
- 29:05are just here on a journey, and win or lose,
- 29:11we're all learning stuff. For sure, for sure.
- 29:15So then, yeah. So then they had all those fighters,
- 29:18and then obviously I missed a few fighters because
- 29:20I was warming up. Did you see Ben? No. No, I
- 29:24missed that one. Man, the Battle of the Benjamins?
- 29:27Yeah, I... All about the Benjamins, eh? Tell
- 29:32me about it, because I was missing it. Ben is
- 29:35so far. He's younger. He's like 20. But he has
- 29:44such an amazing attitude. And he's such a nice
- 29:47person. But like, he's a cell phone. He likes
- 29:52it's like, nice and relaxed. And like he even
- 29:56though he just came into this, like he has a
- 29:58lot of experience like in other aspects like
- 30:01I don't know for all the things he's done but
- 30:04he's been doing a lot of different things but
- 30:06I I knew from the get go the guy that as soon
- 30:13as the other guy came out and I saw he had the
- 30:18reach advantage I was like oh no he has a filthy
- 30:22filthy jazz and he had it was like They had them
- 30:29off the earth No, no that much blood yeah You
- 30:37when you watch you back watch that one, okay
- 30:39and Show that to his opponent though. He's an
- 30:45absolute warrior For like obviously the best
- 30:48stop there. Okay, if they could see what's happening
- 30:51in like at a certain point Again, this is all
- 30:54amateur nobody's getting paid for this everybody's
- 30:58got a job like there's no it's like at a certain
- 31:03point you look at it and you're like well obviously
- 31:06you know who the winner is yeah like but like
- 31:12he was an absolute warrior of like keep it like
- 31:15keep pressing pushing forward okay wasn't like
- 31:19ever there like cowering like carrying the corner
- 31:21not like nothing just kept pushing forward And
- 31:25uh, yeah, that was that was a crazy bite damn
- 31:28Okay, but honestly I got a like huge shout out
- 31:32to all the refs. Yeah shout to Yeah, kathy Uh,
- 31:37it's like they're out there their job is to keep
- 31:40people safe. Yeah Yeah, no 100 all the rest that
- 31:44were there were amazing I know a few of them
- 31:46actually listened to our podcast and like huge
- 31:48shout out for you guys for even like, you know
- 31:51showing us love and like we're sending it back
- 31:54and honestly there's one ref that was telling
- 31:57us like you know expand our reach expand the
- 32:00history of boxing in london and you know what
- 32:02you are 100 correct and we will we will definitely
- 32:06expand on who we talk to and try to like build
- 32:11that community but as well as like build our
- 32:13own community because we're not just a boxing
- 32:15podcast where we do it all exactly that's the
- 32:20whole point of it So there was that. And then
- 32:24I saw as much as I got to, I saw a little bit
- 32:28of McKenzie's fight. Yeah. But other than that,
- 32:33then it was my fight. And then shout out to Kyle
- 32:39Hume. He was a unit. Yeah. It takes a unit to
- 32:45take those punches you throw. I was expecting
- 32:49a few things. And, um, I know you had, I was
- 32:54like talking, I'll see this act. Like you, they
- 32:56were worried a few times in there. Cause like,
- 32:59well, like when, uh, when we talked to Heather
- 33:02before, uh, one of the things the rest watch
- 33:04for is heads going down. And there was a few
- 33:07times in there where you were going, you had
- 33:10them in the corner, you're working on, and it's
- 33:12slowly going, like going a little bit lower,
- 33:15a little bit lower. But then I backed off. He'd
- 33:19back off and then he'd be like, okay, cover it.
- 33:22So me mentally, it's because I do think that
- 33:26I was overthinking in that match. And the moment
- 33:30I saw his head go down, I backed off automatically
- 33:33thinking the ref was going to come in. I know,
- 33:36I know, I know. And that was one of those things
- 33:40I need to focus on. And that's why I will be
- 33:44training a lot harder at Boomers moving forward.
- 33:48But yeah, there was that. There was the snap
- 33:51back of the head that I noticed. I hope there's
- 33:56some good pictures of it. One of the first punches
- 33:59of the match, you hit him and you could just
- 34:02see sweat go flying. I hope there's pictures
- 34:06of it. Obviously, I kind of balked out. Honestly,
- 34:13in that first round, though, I felt really, really
- 34:15good. Near the end of that first round, I didn't
- 34:19feel that tired. And then the second round hit,
- 34:21and I don't know what happened. I wasn't as aggressive.
- 34:26I was more cautious. Yeah, I feel like mentally,
- 34:33when you're, I don't know, when you try to put
- 34:37someone away, and it doesn't work. In the first
- 34:41round, he took... You get a little bit cast,
- 34:44but you also get a little bit discouraged because
- 34:46you're just like, I just gave him 100 % and he's
- 34:51fine. And he took it like a champ. What else
- 34:54can I do? He took it like a champ. You know what?
- 34:58If that was his game plan, just being like, I
- 35:00just need to survive. I don't care how much it
- 35:04hurts or whatever. I'm just going to survive.
- 35:08That game plan worked because I noticed it. And
- 35:11I was just like, well, what else do I have to
- 35:13do? Yeah. And then he started playing the points
- 35:16way. Exactly. And that's when I screwed up. And
- 35:20I was trying to like. And you're just like, you're
- 35:23walking through. So you're just like, oh, this
- 35:25doesn't hurt. Like, I'm fine, but it doesn't
- 35:29matter if it hurts. I know he was getting the
- 35:31point. He was getting the points. And that's
- 35:33why I said, like, he studied me very, very well.
- 35:37He knew what to do. to beat me and yeah, I Flowers
- 35:42go out to him. I also flowers go out to jay and
- 35:46i'll see this because they were in his corner
- 35:48and I know next time I know next time what to
- 35:53do But um Even before like we were even in the
- 35:59ring I had that like that moment like I had you
- 36:03and my uh, brother -in -law come send me out.
- 36:05I had um a great song tonight solidify what punch
- 36:09out was to me uh because it was michael montano's
- 36:13uh encore song yeah so it's the encore show i
- 36:17potentially would have if he took me three rounds
- 36:20i was gonna retire potentially and whatever now
- 36:23you know whatever it is it is what it is but
- 36:28um so where are you fighting next after you hit
- 36:32the gym super hard and become an even bigger
- 36:34monster They can blame file because this is this.
- 36:38Yeah. Yeah, not gonna lie. Not gonna lie. Well,
- 36:44let's be honest. Like getting a period the flag
- 36:47for you. Yeah, that was nice. But also like it
- 36:51was also great to see because like I have a lot
- 36:54of regulars at the restaurant that I work at.
- 36:56And, you know, a few of them were coming out
- 36:59and actually watching the fight. So it's like
- 37:01the community that we've built. I've built there,
- 37:04you know, neighbors coming out, people who've
- 37:06listened to our podcast actually came out. So
- 37:09it's like, it came full circle of like everything
- 37:11we've kind of built, you know, I was, they were
- 37:15there, there was shouting us out, you know, it
- 37:18was, it was cool. Like it felt like a great showcase
- 37:22of what community actually means in London. And
- 37:26it shows that what we're building can go that
- 37:30much further. And I'm looking forward to like
- 37:33how this podcast grows and how everything like
- 37:36cementifies itself. And a huge shout out to like
- 37:38Clubhouse for letting us do this at their location.
- 37:41And, you know, give us a great stage to showcase
- 37:44who we are. We couldn't have a better location
- 37:47for this. It's true. We'll shout out, we'll showcase
- 37:50our sponsors later. It was also cool for my brother
- 37:53-in -law to come out with the past case scenario
- 37:56belt. Yeah, that was great. After the fight,
- 37:58Kyle did come up to me. He's like, where's my
- 38:01belt? He's like, where's my belt? I know. It's
- 38:04like, uh, cause Rob had to go, but cause they
- 38:07had a babysitter. They're like, you used to had
- 38:10told him like, Oh yeah, I should be on by like
- 38:12seven, seven 30. It's like eight 30. Yeah. But,
- 38:18uh, but yeah, we gotta. Yeah. Yeah. We get that.
- 38:24Get a picture with him with that belt sometime.
- 38:26Sure. Sure. Well, we'll also get them on the
- 38:30podcast soon. So, um, but other than that, you
- 38:33know, honestly, the encore show definitely showcased
- 38:37Jay's vision of making sure that he had a community
- 38:40of people to support a great cause. And every
- 38:44single fighter stepped up to the challenge, whether
- 38:47it's from your show or my show. Um, obviously
- 38:50my show, they had to find some extra talent to
- 38:53like fill in the cards, but like even Uli's boxers.
- 38:56Oh, they're great. Honestly, it was like a great
- 39:00showcase of like, like what the box. Yeah, it
- 39:06was amazing. It was a great showcase of what
- 39:08boxing means to London now. Now that it's back
- 39:12in London and has a stage and people are going
- 39:15to look into it more. Just the one really cool
- 39:18thing. So at your fight, I was there talking
- 39:24to, talking to Hassan. Yeah. And we were just
- 39:27like, oh, man, like talking about how we were
- 39:30feeling the next day. And like, oh, yeah, my
- 39:33head was hurting a little bit. I was like, oh,
- 39:35my neck was past the door. But I forget who it
- 39:39was that came up to us. But they were saying,
- 39:42like, we were joking around all the way right
- 39:49up until the fight. Right after the fight, we're
- 39:52like immediately back to like. thinking jokes
- 39:56having a great time like being friends yeah and
- 40:01but like in the ring it was like that switch
- 40:03and it's like he was like yeah watching that
- 40:07fight it was like i couldn't believe it it was
- 40:09like it's like you guys like hated each other
- 40:12you're not wrong and then it was just like immediately
- 40:16after it was like and switch back yep that it's
- 40:19like that's the most crazy experience it is And,
- 40:25like, you were able to joke around with your
- 40:27opponent. For me, I didn't have that. I sent
- 40:30him a few WhatsApp messages because he sent me
- 40:33his sparring video of me and him. But he was
- 40:37playing the mind game as much as I would have
- 40:39done it to him. So I didn't have that opportunity.
- 40:42So, like, when I saw him, I was like, I was pissed
- 40:45off that I didn't get to see you. So, like, that's
- 40:48how my switch turned off. But I know his aspirations
- 40:51because he does want to do a few things in boxing.
- 40:54And if he takes what he did against me, not saying
- 40:59I'm perfect or good or whatever. The seriousness
- 41:04that he took. That's the dedication that someone
- 41:08needs. Yes. For his first fight to survive a
- 41:15beating. And still do it with a smile on his
- 41:19face and win? Like, honestly, I can see him going
- 41:22the wrong way. And I'm so happy that, you know,
- 41:25he's trying to take boxing to the next level.
- 41:27And I'm looking forward to his future. The only
- 41:30thing I'm going to say is I want a rematch. And
- 41:34when I... It's like... So many people there are
- 41:41just like, man, I want a rematch next year. Man,
- 41:44I want a rematch. I don't know if it's going
- 41:45to be next year. I know. Yeah. There's, you know,
- 41:50everybody is going to be like, people that watch
- 41:54this, people that see things are going to be
- 41:55like, oh, I should sign up to do this. I'm going
- 41:58to get in amazing shape. I'm going to be an amazing
- 42:00group of people. I'm going to help an amazing
- 42:01cause and have an unforgettable experience. And
- 42:06it's almost selfish of us, of everyone that has
- 42:11done this multiple times. Sorting it for ourselves.
- 42:15You almost want to bring in new people. Yeah.
- 42:17No, you're a hundred percent. Correct. Like,
- 42:20like you almost need like a fresh class every
- 42:23year. And you're not wrong. Cause it's, it's
- 42:30such an amazing experience. And like, I will
- 42:34say the music. Like the, the entire bunch of
- 42:38the music hall show should always be fresh. Yeah.
- 42:43Right this the music all show should be always
- 42:47because that was like my fight to end experience
- 42:50We're like you have the full production you have
- 42:54your screen behind you, you know, you have that
- 42:57walk of music you have a whole arena in a sense
- 43:01cheering you on from different levels if That
- 43:05was your first fight. That's just a tone for
- 43:08one for two things. Oh I like boxing now And
- 43:12two, I'm going to start training harder, and
- 43:15I'm either going to join the many gyms in London.
- 43:18That's just, it was an insane feeling. True.
- 43:22And it's also a great showcase for MS. But, like,
- 43:26the way they put these shows on is, it's amazing.
- 43:31Yeah. Like, I honestly, I can't say it enough.
- 43:34Yeah. And, like, the coaching that they put into,
- 43:37the time that they've all put into. Like, all
- 43:40the people that have volunteered for this event,
- 43:42that have put the time into each and every one
- 43:46of the fighters, put the time into raising all
- 43:50this money for MS, for the great cause, and,
- 43:55like, you can't... It's hard to quantify exactly
- 44:00how much good this does for the community that
- 44:04everyone here is part of. It's true. It's true.
- 44:10These are the events that are the reason that
- 44:14boxing's come back. Also, a huge shout -out to
- 44:18the committee and the people who put the songs.
- 44:23They did a huge shout -out for us because before
- 44:27my fight, they literally did a huge shout -out
- 44:29and acknowledged what we've done as a podcast
- 44:33since September and solidified that we're...
- 44:37basically putting our money where our mouth is
- 44:39and saying like, hey, it takes hard work, discipline,
- 44:43and so forth. You know, it showcases like this.
- 44:46It also showcased a lot of the young fighters
- 44:48who wouldn't have had an opportunity to showcase
- 44:51because a lot of fighters only fight in gyms.
- 44:53They don't have these types of fans. That's exactly
- 44:56it. I'm talking to some people that have played
- 45:01music professionally. hearing that they've never
- 45:06been in front of that big of a crowd. And you're
- 45:09just like, and you go out there, having never
- 45:13done this before, and you're in the hot seat.
- 45:18Definitely in the hot seat. Thousands of eyes
- 45:21on you, and you're like, oh man, it's game time.
- 45:25But like, it's just crazy. It's true. It's true.
- 45:32Yeah, you know what? You're right. That's sick.
- 45:35That's sick. So... I appreciate you. I appreciate
- 45:41it. So yeah, obviously now my record is 2 -1.
- 45:46Still a winning record. Still a lot of work to
- 45:49be done. But we'll see what the future has in
- 45:53store. So we'll go from there. Like I said, and
- 45:58you didn't like my comment, but you never know
- 46:00what the future holds. It's true. It's true.
- 46:03At least someone on Off the Bench won this week.
- 46:07We can definitely say that. At least someone
- 46:10on Off the Bench won. We're both winners in some
- 46:13aspects because, you know, donations and all,
- 46:15but yeah. Honestly, I couldn't have dreamed up
- 46:22a better first five months of the year. I'm looking
- 46:28forward to four months. Well, five months, yeah.
- 46:33Yeah. Math. Honestly, and a huge shout -out goes
- 46:40to Jay for putting on this production. I can't
- 46:44believe he's, like, he's an absolute warrior.
- 46:48He's a unit. Like, the fact that he was in both
- 46:51events, trained everybody, and, like, you could
- 46:58see... His footprint on all of these fights.
- 47:02He steps in the ring twice. In between. Like.
- 47:08Ordering for people. And like. Even like his
- 47:13fight the last week. With Nick. Nick's crazy.
- 47:18But like. That fight was so good between them.
- 47:23And like. They go. I think they were right before
- 47:27the intermission. So they had a banger and they,
- 47:31they, they celebrate, they go to the back, they
- 47:35dry off a little bit and then they're right back
- 47:37to court. Yes. Yes. But like the job is never
- 47:41done. So I was never done as a coach. It's never
- 47:43done. So, um, yeah, but you know what? I'm looking
- 47:50forward to, like I said, I think I've been saying
- 47:53this all episode, looking forward to what's next
- 47:55for us. Um, You know, obviously, there's a lot
- 48:00of playoffs going on. There's a lot of sports
- 48:02going on. Did you see that swing in the last
- 48:05playoff game? No. Oh, yeah. You know? It looks
- 48:11like he's not getting suspended or anything.
- 48:13I know we can't really talk about it next week
- 48:18because then it's going to die off. So we might
- 48:20as well talk about it now. I don't fault him
- 48:24for that. Actually, that's it. I'm so hard. I
- 48:31think at this point, okay, in a lot of sports,
- 48:35not boxing, not UFC, not combat sports in general,
- 48:43but the game has gotten very, very soft. Yeah.
- 48:48To the point where like, it's almost unfair that
- 48:54some people take advantage of it. And like, if
- 48:58I've been paying attention to the whole playoffs
- 49:00while we've been training, Wemby has been taking
- 49:03a beating and he's been trying to be the bigger
- 49:06man. Exactly. But that's the problem. He has
- 49:10the same problem we're all having. Whereas because
- 49:13he's big, people get to take a beat, like give
- 49:17him a beating. Jokic has the same problem. Yep.
- 49:20Yep. Like the amount of times you see them like,
- 49:22like getting absolutely hammered. is ridiculous.
- 49:29And then you have the smaller guys like, like
- 49:31Shay, who's like, he's amazing. He's Canadian.
- 49:35He's fantastic. But like, yeah, exactly. Like
- 49:38he knows, it's the same thing with like when
- 49:40Harden is. Yep. Like, you know how to work. It's
- 49:46sad because we just had Heather on our episode
- 49:49a few weeks ago talking about like how it's like
- 49:52player safety and so forth. But then some players
- 49:55are using that to manipulate refs to get what
- 49:58they want. And then, unfortunately for Wemby,
- 50:03he can't do that because it's like Cam Newton's
- 50:06situation where as a quarterback, he was so big
- 50:09that him and Tom Brady couldn't get the calls
- 50:12because the people that are trying to injure
- 50:14them are so much littler that it's like, you're
- 50:18too big. Don't act like that. That doesn't hurt
- 50:20you. And it's that whole situation. But more
- 50:24and more, it's getting to the point where the
- 50:27games have been gone and soft. And I think a
- 50:28lot of viewers have been paying attention to
- 50:30that. Where like, I remember when I used to watch
- 50:33Shaq and he used to dominate people and he would
- 50:36play aggressive. And then the little guys had
- 50:39to fight back. Well, now it's the other way around
- 50:42where the big guys can't fight back because if
- 50:44they fight back, it's a call. The little guys
- 50:46fall. Yeah. Everyone's smart enough. I like Nate.
- 50:50It's a strategy. It's happening in basketball.
- 50:53It's also happening in soccer and football. Football,
- 50:59yeah. Yeah, because even on corner kicks, there's
- 51:01a reason why Arsenal does so well is because
- 51:05of how aggressive they are in the six -yard box,
- 51:09where they can be super aggressive, and if it
- 51:11doesn't go their way, they can get a call. And
- 51:14you know I'm going to say Arsenal in this aspect
- 51:16because I'm a Tonto fan, and I hate Arsenal.
- 51:19Yeah, well, they at least taught him to get relegated.
- 51:22We tied today, though. So it's still too close.
- 51:25It's still two points away from relegation. Yikes.
- 51:30The problem right now is a lot of people aren't
- 51:33taking sports seriously. And if you're going
- 51:34to be aggressive, you have to be able to match
- 51:37it and not just try to use the refs to get what
- 51:40you want. Yeah. Well, that's exactly it. You
- 51:43got to, like, it's one of those. It's frustrating
- 51:47when you're doing anything and both teams aren't
- 51:52matching the energy. I agree. I agree. It's like
- 51:58with anything. It's like if you take out super
- 52:01competitive teams versus a team that isn't as
- 52:05competitive but they're bigger, they'll just
- 52:08bully them. Yes. Yes. But the super competitive
- 52:14team is like, oh. Okay, well, we'll just get
- 52:19them really frustrated and then let them foul
- 52:22us. It's like just putting them in that bull's
- 52:26position. Which sucks. And then people's emotions
- 52:30start kicking in. And then... You know that their
- 52:38next game's game plan is going to be like, hey...
- 52:42We go out there, like, we'll have some guys that
- 52:44are just there to go foul. And get in his head
- 52:48and play that emotional game, which is a mindset.
- 52:51Because you always want to, when it comes to
- 52:53sports, it's physical, talent, and then emotional
- 52:58mindset. Yeah. And how you play it accordingly
- 53:01is how you play it. So. It's interesting. Everything's
- 53:05tap. So. But, yeah. All these playoffs have gone
- 53:12on. I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward
- 53:15to what's going to happen. I'm also trying to
- 53:17pay attention to the NHL playoffs as well. Because
- 53:22I want to see how far much all Canadians can
- 53:24go. As of right in second, a week ago, I think
- 53:31they were up 2 -1 in the series. So, I just want
- 53:35to see a Canadian team win. I was talking to
- 53:39someone, they were like, oh, who do you want
- 53:40to win? Like, well, I know a lot of people don't
- 53:45want Montreal to win because they're like Toronto
- 53:48fans. They just don't want Montreal to win. But
- 53:54at the same time, you're like, but it's the only
- 53:56Canadian team. Exactly. Exactly. So, yeah. The
- 54:02Jays and Canadians. When the Jays were in, the
- 54:07entire country rallied behind them. True, true.
- 54:11And a lot of people with hockey had that mindset
- 54:14of, well, realistically, it doesn't matter which
- 54:17team wins because most players are Canadian,
- 54:20Eddie. Well, yeah, most of them. So that's a
- 54:24really good thing. The other thing to kick in.
- 54:29Yeah, I know. The other thing that I'm also paying
- 54:33attention to is the fact that the finals for
- 54:39lacrosse is Toronto Rock versus Halifax. So that's
- 54:46just going into the finals now. So I'm also looking
- 54:48forward to that. But yeah. So are we going to
- 54:52do, is lacrosse going to be the next thing? I
- 54:55don't know. Who knows? I'm always down for lacrosse.
- 54:58So. But I think we should try to pay some bills.
- 55:04So I want to do a huge shout out to a few of
- 55:07our sponsors. And I'll let you start off. Well,
- 55:12I mean, when it comes to sponsors, you can't
- 55:16have a better sponsor than the people that gave
- 55:19you your first opportunity. 100%. I don't think
- 55:23this podcast could have kicked off the ground
- 55:25for... present to what it is now without a log
- 55:31in our corner and clubhouse. Like this entire
- 55:35place is insane. It's true. We record all of
- 55:39our shows in one of the VR simulators. You can
- 55:44do all the sports here. If you're planning on
- 55:48a golf day and starts raining, go all three clubs
- 55:51in the car, head on over to clubhouse. You can
- 55:53still hit some balls on whatever course you want.
- 55:56still have the opportunity to do that uh 10k
- 56:00challenge for the hole in one yep which somebody
- 56:03did win so that's insane two people that i've
- 56:06noticed yeah so it's not impossible uh but the
- 56:12staff here is incredible uh the management team
- 56:15they have is fantastic the food is great uh the
- 56:19drinks you can't get more local beer than downstairs
- 56:23it's true support powerhouse now that we can
- 56:26drink again yeah yeah dude yeah i always do this
- 56:29already but uh yeah i know you can't say that
- 56:33enough i how long it's fantastic about 10 out
- 56:38of 10 uh the events they put on here next level
- 56:43it's true it's true honestly honestly you can't
- 56:47go wrong and also what's coming up shortly and
- 56:50if you pay attention to clubhouse is at powerhouse
- 56:54in a few weeks uh it's the corn the cornhole
- 56:56tournament with powerhouse and going for two
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- 57:03um hopefully we can make it work you know our
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