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Christmas Special: What We're Leaving Behind & Bringing Into 2025 · Not All Business

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Welcome to Not All Business, a podcast by two former CEOs who
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went from competitors to friends.
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I'm Blakely Graham and my Co host is Heather Cooper, and
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we're joined by our producer Clay Cornell, who's treated his
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behind the scenes magic for a front row seat at our holiday
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table in a cat sweater. Anyway, today's a special one,
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folks. It's our Christmas episode, and
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instead of bringing you a guest, we're bringing you something a
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little different. It's a moment to pause, reflect,
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and share the gift we think everyone needs heading into the
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new year. Let's get our hot Coco with a.
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Yes and we're back in your phone studio back live or another
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person event which. Means I get to take off my
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glasses. Thank God.
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Yes in Boulder, Co Beautiful place to celebrate Christmas.
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All your embarrassing lights, they're hideous.
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They're beautiful. But it's a lot.
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Yeah, my husband, it's a lot. And it's the.
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Best. It's just it's aspirational.
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For sure, we look at it as a community service.
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We've had so many people stop us on the streets and be like,
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you're in the lights this year. And so Scott's like, oh, how are
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we going to double down next year?
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That's. So nice.
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Yeah. Also, her neighbor keeps giving
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her $100 bills every day. So I feel like how many more of
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those are you going to take from him, I mean.
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They're for new strands of lights.
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Every year our 90 year old neighbor like slip us slips.
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It's like $100. Like this year it was four 50s
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and just so we could have more lights.
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It's so sweet, but didn't you say he's also bringing more
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money every day? Is he OK?
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Does he have family that you should be reaching out?
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To OK, first of all, his daughter-in-law is one of my
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dearest friends and she is listening to this podcast, OK?
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And she's like, that's my kids inheritance.
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That's what I was going to say. You're just like stuck buying it
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away. Sorry, bottle of.
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Wine, but it is so. More eggnog, anybody?
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Thanks, Earl. What's his name?
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Bruce. Bruce, OH.
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Oh, that's my stepdad name Bruce.
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He's the best. A good name.
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He is the best. OK, I'm getting a little teary
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eyed. That's what Christmas is for.
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I'm sorry. Let's move on.
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Love you, Bruce. Moving on, Smith.
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Oh, I know Clay, it has been four weeks ish since
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Thanksgiving and I feel like we've left our listeners on the
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hook because if anyone remembers the Thanksgiving episode, Clay
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bought a lock box for his phones.
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Yes and he was I'm just going to catch up people up.
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He was going to take it to his in laws for Thanksgiving.
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Risky. Put it on the table and be like
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hey yo put your phone in here so we can have some in person time.
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That's exactly how I sound. Yeah.
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Hey, yo, put your phone in here. Digging it.
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Are you digging it? Hey, groovy, baby.
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Let's go. All I know is what's the
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scuttlebutt? That night, scuttlebutt and he
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says scuttlebutt. I went out that night and bought
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the same thing on Amazon overnight to take to our
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Thanksgiving. So I feel like.
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We need to debrief that because we.
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Never debrief today and now we're heading into Christmas,
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which is just like another holiday where.
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Yeah, You want to take the phones of your friends and
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family and lock them away? You do.
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Yeah. Yeah, Forget about personal
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freedom. Right.
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OK, so pass the butter. I do remember pass butter.
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Can I tell you? I said pass the butter three
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times to myself before anyone even got there.
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Yeah. That's our good name for dealing
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with our. Foundest cooking in the kitchen?
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Pass the butter. And we're going to put it on
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every on T-shirts, on mugs, yes, everything.
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So you can at some point you will be able to own not all
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business merch that says pass the butter on it I.
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Mean, let's make that a January goal, merch.
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All these folks like we're all sitting in January having to
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make our goals at Christmas time, which always hated in
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business, but that is going to be our 2026 goal.
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That's the better merch, yeah. OK, so do you want me to tell
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you? The thing yeah, we want to
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podcasts. Well, one other thing to catch
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up listeners on was I've shared that I was going to do that
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because it came up in conversation, but then I all of
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a sudden got a bunch of advice from the both of you right on
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how to do this. Requested advice, but advice
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Advice on the. Left.
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So the advice was number one, you have to socialize.
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The idea you have to start talking about it in the
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beginning of the day kind of warmed people up to it.
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OK. The second piece of advice was
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to get my son Amris. Yeah.
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That was collect. That was a good.
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One, yeah. I think it was like amorous to
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say in a sweet voice, Hey grandma, we're putting our
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phones in here. Yeah.
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Yeah, press the button. On the edge of our seat.
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How'd it go? OK, first question is do you
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think I've followed your advice? No.
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I think you socialized it, I think.
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Ray was like Ray. Yeah, but I feel like Ray was
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like, don't involve Emerson. This.
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You're going to break his heart if they say no.
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She was more like don't exploit her child probably.
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Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, yeah.
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See that? And then two, do you think it
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was successful or that I even did it?
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Think you did? It knowing what happened at my
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house with the box, I'm going to guess that yours was successful
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and mine was an absolute disaster.
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OK, so I oh, sorry, there. The other piece of advice was
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talk to the host. Yes, that was the third piece.
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Of yeah, that was a really good one.
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OK, yeah. So I'll go backwards.
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So I talked to the host about it.
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How'd that go? Great.
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Oh, this is a good idea. Yeah, totally.
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You can do that. Yeah.
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And it was kind of like, here's the flow and then you're in
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laws. Yes, this is at my in laws
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house. OK, so so here's the flow, and
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here's when the right time to do it is.
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Oh, you got some direction? Yeah, there was like it'll fit
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in right at this moment. OK, great.
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Yeah, and there was enthusiasm. OK, so so that was good.
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And then the second one was Amris.
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So I did have Amris go around and collect the phones.
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OK, so kind of how I'll tell you how it worked out in a second.
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And then the third thing advice was socializing it.
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I didn't really do that it we were so busy cooking and
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everything, it just kind of didn't come up.
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Yeah. OK, so here's how I did it.
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It's. 20. So.
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I was counting but thanks. Well, the socializing one, I was
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like, it might ruin the surprise and give people too much time to
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start making jokes about how they're going to do it or how
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they're not going to do it. OK.
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Sorry, what were you saying? We're having a competition over
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here. She's like, it's fine, it's
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fine. It's 20.
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I just, it's rare. It's OK.
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That's true. So like dinner, prayer happens.
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Everybody goes, gets their food, then goes and sits down.
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Then after everyone had sat down, I had Emeris get up from
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the table with me and we stood at the end of the table and
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said, hey, we would love to spend our no.
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Gosh, what I said such a great line.
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I said there's no gift like the present.
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That's what I said. And then Emeris was there.
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He was so excited, you know, to do this.
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And I said I'm going to put my phone away.
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If anyone else wants to join me and put their phones away where
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Emeris is going to come around and collect them, I'm going to
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set a timer for one hour. After the hour, I will let you
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all know that your phones are available.
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But it would be great to spend some present time together as a
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family. And if I remember correctly, I
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think there was only one person who did not.
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Who? I want to know who.
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Well, there was a little, there were a couple comments set at
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the table that this one person didn't do it.
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And so there was actually peer pressure in the opposite
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direction of what we had talked about.
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So there was more peer pressure to do it.
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And I said, you know, there's no pressure to do it.
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You don't have to give up your phone.
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Yeah. This is just an opportunity if
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you would like to. Was it, was it a younger person
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like under 20 or something? Was an older person.
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Yeah, interesting. Don't know their age, probably
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late 50s early 60s. Do you know their name?
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Oh yeah, I mean, yeah. No, I'm just trying to like
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publicly out them, but that's not right.
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But they weren't on their phone. Oh, OK.
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It was just more of a security safety blanket.
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Yeah. They're like, look, I would love
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to hand over my phone, but I've not wiped my settings yet.
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I have not cleared my history. OK, I didn't.
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I'm not going. There, I mean, that's where.
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I did it go Ding. I said like when like past the
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tarsing pass, the Turkey pass, the like to just keep going off
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because that would have been great.
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This is so the opposite what I was trying to do.
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I was trying to create like a sweet family moment and it ended
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up no, no, that was funny, but I'm saying it's sweet.
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It worked out in that direction. It worked out really great.
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Good for you and. I LED.
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You LED. Yeah.
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And I really, I appreciated all the advice that I got from the
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two of you and the coaching. Yeah, on how to do it because I
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followed most of the advice and it totally worked most of it.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Well, the socializing one I didn't do because I was cooking.
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I was in another place, cooking and all that.
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I just why didn't you guys give me advice?
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Because this is not. That's here.
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So we rented this like sweet little cabin.
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Oh, we're in Devil's Sum. Nice.
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So outside of Winter Park. And I mean, it was just was this
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a beautiful picture of picturesque horseback riding,
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all that stuff. It was fantastic, but we were
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settling into the cabin and I'm like you guys, I'd got us like a
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special, a special surprise. And, well, that's still a
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mistake right there. Hi.
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That's not a special surprise. It's a prison for the phones.
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I. Told them.
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Everyone's thinking like, are we going to Mexico, Mom?
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Like a special surprise in the Graham household.
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OK, sorry. Go ahead.
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So bad. So I brought out the box.
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I go. I learned this from Clay.
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Clay is like taking it to his family dinner.
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It's this box. And so I'm like unboxing this
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box. Oh great, now now I'm the worst
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person. Ever she was hoping no, she was
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playing you as the cool factor yes like this came from cool
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clay the producer I'm. 35 I'm not cool anymore.
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Oh my gosh. I'm sorry.
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So then I unboxed it and I didn't really quite notice what
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was happening, but Lula was recording me the whole time.
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And then they're like, what is that mom?
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Oh, oh, we know what that is. That's something to like lock
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our phones in mom. And then so Lula makes this
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whole real. And tik.
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T.O.K reel A TikTok reel about like the day in the life of our
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mom like first show up to Thanksgiving with a box put your
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phones in the box take your kids phones away and so they.
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This is how we go viral. So how are?
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You not. This is amazing.
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This is the best social content we've ever.
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Had Elden like grabs the box, he's like, let me look at it and
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he's like, oh, there's fortress mode.
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And so there's modes you can like do a clay dead and you can
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set the timer for an hour or you can set it on fortress mode
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where there's no, it's the mode. Like there's modes where you can
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put in a password and unlock the box, but there's another mode
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called fortress mode where it locks the box.
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There's no secret password. You can't call the company like
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literally the box is locked and you can do it for like 20-4 days
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like. Did he lock it before you could
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get the phones in there? No, what do you want?
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He told me he did. So he like said it and it was
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like on a 24 day timer or something like that or 24 hours.
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I don't, it doesn't even matter. He's like, it's in fortress
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mode. We never used the box, and I'm
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thinking I might. Oh, and then you guys remember
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our guest, Nicole Christensen? Yes.
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So CrossFit. CrossFit, yes.
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So we are meeting up with her for Christmas Day and in a
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couple of days. And what if I brought the box,
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gave her the box, and you guys know Nicole?
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She's cool. Yeah, well, she'd beat the shit
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out of you if you. Didn't, yeah.
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Right, exactly. So I might try the box again,
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but then maybe I'll have Lula film like I can follow up reel
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of Nicole making us all put our phones in the box.
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But exactly. But I feel like your kids are
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going to sniff this out if they get any clue that you put her up
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to it. So there can be like, no, yeah,
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it's got to be. She's got to be like, what's
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this? What if we white elephant it?
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Oh like like acted? What's this?
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Oh look, it's a thing to put the phone in the box.
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Oh, but they don't. But then be like don't even try
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they. They hate it.
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Play the reverse. Psychology.
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And then she'll be like. Why this is?
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Great. Why can't you do that?
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Yeah, guys, they're not going to put their phones in the box.
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I don't care how you package it. Like that's their.
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That. That is their social.
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Do you remember when you were little and you would open your
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Christmas presents and then you'd call your friend?
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Yeah. And be like, what'd you get?
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Like, that is their. That is their.
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Well, now they're like cutting their haul on TikTok and I'm
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just like, give me a break. That's just gross, you know?
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It can be depending on, yeah. Your haul on TikTok, Your
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Christmas present haul my. Christmas haul What was the best
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Christmas present you ever got? Oh, that.
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Is a good 10. As a kid, I don't care about
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your diamonds and shit that you get now.
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Like I want to hear about like. Wonder back in the day, woman.
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Wonderoos, Wonderoos. Underoos.
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Underoos. Yeah, I wanted though.
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Doesn't know what that is. I actually thought I was Wonder
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Woman. Did you?
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Did you spin in circles? Yes, I did.
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In your yard and like. With the with the.
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Gold. And you thought maybe you might,
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if you just spun hard enough, you might become Diane.
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Yeah. Wonder Woman.
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Oh, she was so pretty. The best?
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Yeah, the Lasso of Truth, right, The Lasso of.
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Yeah, Lasso of Truth I. Didn't know about that.
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Was that from your comic books or how are you?
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OK, so Ray was in the comic books.
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I wasn't really. Not like, I don't, not that I
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wasn't allowed, but comics and stuff like just weren't
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happening in my house. Cartoons and stuff like that.
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Yeah. So I just know about that
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because I liked Lynda Carter, Yeah.
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Who didn't? We all liked Linda Carter.
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She. Was, but I didn't like Gal Gadot
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as the new Oh I. Thought Gal didn't find John
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Linda Carter. But it's different, different
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vibe. I mean, the Wander Roos were
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clearly Linda Carter. But what are?
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What are these? It's long underwear.
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OK. But not long underwear because
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they weren't long. Mine was like a tank.
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And then underwear. It's like underwear.
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And so when you were a little girl, you wore, what are they
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called? Undershirts like these like
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little white. Before you had boobs and you
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couldn't didn't need a bra, you had to wear undershirts.
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You didn't want to show the nipple.
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Yeah, which they don't do anymore.
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Now they just free the netball. But they So you under ruse, were
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like a comic book version of a camisole and underwear.
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OK. Yeah.
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And so like my sister got, was it like Batman or Robin?
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She must have gotten but she wouldn't have gotten boy ones.
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That doesn't make sense. But you might have maybe?
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She did. That's a choice.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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But I but they, they looked different, so I would have
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remembered them. Do you know what I mean?
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Yeah, they like, like had a boy. It was like that girl or
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something. So yeah, I don't remember.
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Maybe she just got, maybe she was Wonder Woman too.
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Sorry Emily, I don't remember if she's going to call in.
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She facts checks me on the show all the time.
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I accidentally found mine in my mom's closet and it really
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wasn't. You're Underoos.
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I Yeah, I. Wait, are they called Wonderoos?
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Or Underoos. I just had Wonder Woman and so
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Heather said Wonderoos, but they're underoos, OK.
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And you could have got a Batman Star Wars Archer D2.
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I think she had R2D2. Ones that's fun, OK.
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That's. So cute.
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But so yeah, I was, I was a really good kid.
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Like I did not try to like find my presents before Christmas and
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all that or seek it out. But I accidentally found it and
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then she found out and that was like the one thing I wanted.
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And then I found it before Christmas.
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And so she was so sad because that was the Santa Claus days.
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You know, we got all of our presents stolen out of our car
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on Christmas Eve. What?
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Yeah, because I'm from a divorced family and so you have
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to like go every other year. And so my mom had packed up all
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of our gifts and I I think was the year of the dollhouse.
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And like, my aunt had handmade all these doll furniture and she
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put it in the hatchback and our car got broken into on Christmas
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Eve. And so we didn't have anything
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to open on Christmas Day. Like Santa didn't come.
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It was awful. I'm so sorry, that's terrible.
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I just remember that right now yours I was like late.
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Makes me sad for your mom. Mostly.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Actually should. What?
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Yeah, like, I feel kind of bad for you, but like in comparison,
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like your mom though, right? Well, it's just because we work
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so damn hard to make that moment fucking mad, right It probably.
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Was most. We we say up late, we've used
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all different kinds of wrapping paper to throw off the scent.
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We do all of the things. Watch What's going to happen is
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my mom's going to call and watch the show and she's like, what
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are you guys talking about? Like nothing ever got stolen out
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of the car. You're making that up.
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We found out how much it was worth and we sold it to somebody
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else. I will ask her about it because
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you're right I probably have never respected her trauma out
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of it. Like it probably was horrible
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for. Her horrible.
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Yeah, single mom, right? I'm so sorry, mom.
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So sorry. Yeah, sorry, that's rough.
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Wait, So what was in the closet? Was it under bruise?
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Yeah, Wonder Woman under bruise. So I was just like.
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And honestly, the crazy thing is I actually felt bad for her
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immediately. Yeah.
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I realized I was not supposed to see this and this was like my
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big present that I wanted and then now I know.
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So I just felt bad did. She ever find out?
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I told her OK, because I'm also, I was, I was, I don't know,
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strangely. I snuck down from upstairs 1
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Christmas and I caught my parents in the act.
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Of sex. No getting together like the
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bike. Sorry I.
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Was like I hadn't even. They like put together the bike
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and my dad yelled in like his deep voice like get it back
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upstairs or Santa won't come and so then.
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Maybe that was his Santa. Voice I oh, he had a voice.
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And then I ran back upstairs and my sister and I went back to
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bed. And then I waited all night, you
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guys, all night. And then I came back down and I
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just sat on the stairs at the top.
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Been like, is it safe to go down?
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Is it safe to go down? Because I was like, worried.
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Yeah. And then he came up.
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Up the stairs. My dad, not Santa.
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He's like, what are you doing? It's 10:00 and I.
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Like so wait, it was your dad though It wasn't Santa and.
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I thought I had stayed up all night.
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There's only 10 PM. OK.
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So what are you? I guess the way you said it, it
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makes it sound like you. It's Santa.
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Yeah, I was. It was in my unclear years, I
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wasn't sure. I wasn't sure how much was Dad,
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How much was Santa. What age was that for you?
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OK, it was that in the house. So I was probably in 5th, 4th,
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5th, 4th or 5th grade. OK.
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Yeah. So 4th grade maybe?
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Yeah, that's probably about right.
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I don't even. I have no idea when mine was.
20:53
OK, my favorite gift I ever got was believe it or not, it wasn't
20:59
just for me. I got one, but all like my older
21:03
sister got one, my cousins all got one.
21:06
It was it was 1 toy, but it wasn't a toy.
21:09
It was like an electronic device.
21:10
What do you think it was? IPod.
21:14
No way earlier. But we would wait a favor.
21:17
Is it one gift that you shared or one gift that you all got
21:21
together? Like I got 1 and it came in a
21:24
carrying case with my name on. It oh, it was one of those
21:27
Nintendo, not the Switch, because that's Game Boy version
21:31
Game Boy. Game Boy.
21:33
Yeah. That's fun.
21:34
I got an original. Wow game.
21:36
Boy, for Christmas. Wow, that's.
21:39
Wow, that was a grandma. Patent big money.
21:41
Gift Grandma Judy who are. Getting underwear and it's
21:45
getting a Game Boy, OK. OK, but I mean don't make me say
21:50
it. Hey, the Cardinals are very
21:51
wealthy. Oh my God, cute.
21:57
Just cue the laugh track. So frustrated, so lame.
22:03
In all kinds of ways. The thing is, when she says
22:06
stuff like that, I can't. Don't make me mediate a fight
22:09
right now. No, it's Christmas.
22:11
I'm in my, I'm in my shower. Let it go, let it go.
22:17
OK, so we all get Game Boys, right?
22:18
Yeah. And we're all sitting around and
22:21
like, and just out of nowhere, like, I'm like 5 years old.
22:24
This is like, OK, so it's 1995. I get a Game Boy and like, I
22:29
could not believe it. Yeah, it's amazing.
22:31
It was a jock crazy. It's amazing.
22:34
Yeah, it's kind of like when I got a cabbage touched all.
22:36
To this day. My mom had to fought people for
22:38
those where moms we should introduce them.
22:41
My mom fought them in the store physically.
22:44
I had heard about stuff like that happening, but.
22:46
Yeah, so you felt like you were on top of the world.
22:48
That was like blowing your mind. Yeah, because I'm one of the
22:51
younger ones. Yeah.
22:52
And so, like, my older cousins got the same thing.
22:53
So we all got the same thing. And I still have it to this day.
22:56
It's on my shelf. Like if you're looking at me on
22:58
the podcast, it's to my left. When you're not an in person
23:01
episode in Boulder, Co? Yeah, when you're not.
23:04
You look like you're in a surge for.
23:06
Christmas I couldn't even. OK, so I'm supposed to wear this
23:08
hat too? Yeah, see this hat here?
23:11
Uh huh. If you come spend Christmas with
23:12
my family, you're wearing a hat. Yeah, you're wearing that at
23:16
dinner tonight. See you in January.
23:17
Yeah, there you go. I had a gift like that was the
23:20
Barbie Dream house. Yeah.
23:21
And never it was Barbie Dream. No, it was crazy.
23:26
Like I never would have expected it.
23:28
Nowhere near the like those things were like for the rich
23:31
girl, you know? I like it was knowing.
23:33
Friend and Amanda had. One opened it and it said
23:36
furnished. Then I saw furniture and so I
23:39
looked at my mom. It was just the two of us.
23:41
I looked at my mom and I was like, you got me furniture for
23:43
my Barbie. And she's like, not just
23:46
furniture. Like my brain couldn't even
23:48
comprehend. It was like the house with the
23:51
furniture. It was insane.
23:53
You. Guys, I remember allowed to have
23:55
Barbie. So to play with Barbie, I had to
23:58
go across like the train tracks to the underground side to no
24:02
Amanda's house, Mandy, she had all the Barbies, the dream
24:06
house, the cars, the yeah. The pool.
24:09
But my mom instead, if you're listening, mom, I do love you.
24:14
And I'm telling this story because of how much I love you.
24:17
She made me have right size Barbie.
24:20
What's it called? Right sized?
24:22
Right sized Barbies is that. Like a.
24:24
It was like a. Like a normal sized like brand?
24:27
All over in the 70s of this company trying to take a run at
24:32
Barbie and they made right size proportion dolls and so good.
24:37
For them. Yeah, so I got a right size
24:39
doll. The clothes didn't fit, the
24:41
shoes didn't fit, I couldn't play.
24:43
With but I meant the boobs were normal size.
24:45
The boobs were probably like flat little pancake, whatever
24:49
size. No arch keel, right?
24:52
Did you see the Barbie movie? I loved it.
24:55
Yeah. Did they have right sized Barbie
24:56
in that? I think variations ever, yeah.
25:00
I got right sized Barbie. It's a whole other podcast.
25:02
Thanks, Mom. Breaking down the Barbie movie,
25:07
I'm on your mom's side with that, honestly.
25:08
I mean, I am philosophically for sure.
25:11
Like she made a lot of hard decisions like that.
25:13
Like there's no TV. We're eating carob chips, not
25:15
chocolate chips. Like those are hard decisions to
25:17
make, you know? That one's not too hard, you
25:19
could chocolate every time, but the other ones I agree with.
25:21
I think she would agree with that now.
25:23
Yeah, But Rice says Barbie, it was a separator.
25:26
Yeah, I felt separated. You felt like your Barbie was
25:29
less than. Yeah, she was.
25:32
She didn't have a boob job. Right.
25:35
Her feet were flat. They were.
25:38
Really wine too. I just like it was like man
25:40
shoes, man shoe Barbie. You know what's crazy though, is
25:43
that they use the word I mean, this is obviously, you know, I
25:48
was talking about in 2025, but they called it right size
25:51
Barbie. But it's one, it's still one
25:53
kind. So it's like they're saying that
25:56
this is the right size, but that's still a.
25:58
Body type. You're right, it wasn't like
26:02
like large, skinny, medium tall like it wasn't all the Barbie.
26:07
This is why I hate branding. It was just one who the the
26:11
brand. I.
26:13
Hate that because it's one size. Yeah, it's.
26:16
All and then you've got child daughter walk in with barely
26:19
yeah clothes because it doesn't fit.
26:21
Fit for toddlers. Yep.
26:22
And then they squeeze into it and that's the one size.
26:25
I got so mad one day when I didn't understand what it was
26:28
and then I was at, I don't know, a Cherry Creek or wherever I
26:31
like walked in there and it's really cute clothes, like super.
26:34
I mean, I would. One size.
26:36
Yeah. And I'm like, wait, no other
26:38
sizes. They're like, Nope, this is our
26:39
only size. Oh man, I wanted to just go off
26:44
on someone. I don't get it.
26:46
I really don't. It's bad, Boo.
26:49
Can I ask a question? Yeah.
26:50
Were there different right size Barbies?
26:52
I don't think, no, I think that was my whole point.
26:54
There wasn't. It's just one size, right size.
26:56
And so now that's the right size to your point like.
26:58
Maybe it meant something else at the time.
27:00
But maybe average size would have been a better.
27:03
One no, it's, it's got to be something It's it's got to be
27:06
like. Flat chested.
27:10
I know if they were Barbie I. Don't really like.
27:12
What do you think? What's the right?
27:13
Way well, well, that's The thing is there is no like, quote UN
27:17
quote, like right way. So yeah, I'm, I'm not actually
27:20
going to put it on myself to try to figure out what that should
27:22
be, because I'm not trying to. Or like what the marketing
27:25
should have been? It should have just been the
27:27
anti Barbie. I'm going to make a
27:28
perimenopause Barbie. Are you with me?
27:32
That's a fairy. No, I'm.
27:34
I think we should Does. This Barbie have an age limit.
27:37
What's the oldest Barbie out there?
27:39
I've never seen a Barbie with my neck wrinkles.
27:41
Ever. So let's get that going.
27:44
Is it because we don't play with dolls?
27:45
Anymore Wrinkle Barbie? This is only for two more years,
27:50
folks. That's getting fixed.
27:52
We press entered belly and she pees a little bit in her pants
27:55
when she laughed. Stuart Oh my.
27:57
Gosh, I just actually remembered my favorite gift I got one of
28:01
those baby dolls that like you. Fed it and then it pees or I
28:07
know. I also got the Barbie mask.
28:10
Did you have one of those where it was like it was like a, it
28:14
was so bad clay. It was like the head chopped off
28:18
of a Barbie. A full size head.
28:20
Or you could do the makeup. With the mask on it, so you
28:22
could get the eyeliner just right and then you take the mask
28:25
off and it had the perfect eyes and.
28:27
It was creepy as yeah, it really is.
28:32
You do the hair. You guys had?
28:37
A very Growing up in the 70s was pretty awesome.
28:41
I got a Game Boy. You did.
28:44
And you're like, I wasn't invented.
28:46
I was. I was taught unrealistic beauty
28:49
standards. And I'm just like, well.
28:53
That's where the thigh gap came from.
28:55
The what? The thigh gap, Barbie?
28:58
She has a thigh. Gap.
28:59
I do not have a thigh gap. Good.
29:01
Because you're right sized, right?
29:05
Right sized Blakely. It worked.
29:09
You grew up, painted me, right? Again, thank you.
29:13
We've come full circle. OK, well, should we?
29:16
I don't either. By the way, we haven't started
29:18
having our wine yet. I know where.
29:20
This happened just hot cocoa. Clay will not allow us to drink
29:24
and podcast. Drink and podcast Boo.
29:26
We're going to fix bad rule. Yeah.
29:28
It's a good rule. No, no.
29:29
It's a good rule. After the last episode that we
29:32
had with the husbands, it got out of control and so you.
29:36
Know yeah, it's like raining. Sober podcasting.
29:39
Sober Podcasting. Is better and you'll see in the
29:41
entire episode how stressed I am the whole time.
29:44
Just look at me. Sweating in your cat sweater?
29:48
OK, it is like 1000° back here in this thing.
29:52
OK, by the way, real quick, can we zoom in on this?
29:54
OK, so in the planning for this episode, Blakely's like, I have
29:58
Christmas stuff, don't bring anything.
30:00
I was like, oh great. And like, I'm like, oh cool,
30:03
maybe I'll get like a nice like little sweater or sweatshirt or
30:06
something, or like a cool little hat and I'm not even going to
30:10
touch the hat. But right before I go to put on
30:12
this sweatshirt, which by the way is a S/P, what does that
30:15
mean? Small, petite.
30:16
No, it's yeah. Petite is like French for small
30:19
I Oh yeah, it's not petite. Oh yeah, it's not yours.
30:23
Petite. Oh, it's Pequenya.
30:25
This is like exactly. Yeah, this is like a.
30:26
Compression sock for my chest. Yeah, but it's got you.
30:30
Look, I do like it. It's so cute.
30:32
It's a scary ass cat. OK, well, that's the way it's
30:35
folding over me. OK, so the I go to put it on and
30:40
I'm like inspecting it and like right on the collar there's like
30:43
this like crust this like crusty stuff.
30:47
White crusty stuff. Cookie dough.
30:48
Right around the neck. So then I pointed out with
30:51
Heather and she's like. And then I turn to Blakely and
30:54
I'm like, hey, just just be, just be honest with me.
30:58
I just need an answer. No, what is this?
31:00
I'm going to put it on. Just tell me what it is.
31:02
It's not a bodily fluid, I hope. Well, the question was, it was
31:06
like it was when's the last time you wore this, Blakely, and what
31:09
were you doing? Yeah, I've never worn it.
31:10
I just. And you said, I think it's like
31:12
cookie batter. Yeah, it's cookie batter.
31:14
And I was like, OK, thank you for the answer.
31:16
That's all I needed. But you.
31:18
Put it on anyway you. Should ask the kids at dinner
31:21
tonight what that is. I don't.
31:23
Know. No, not during dinner, please.
31:26
As soon as this episode is over, I'm taking this off.
31:28
Yeah. Good sport for wearing it so.
31:31
So I thought it would be an interesting idea if we use this
31:36
time because this is like Christmas, it's New year, it's
31:40
like the time of renewal, letting things go and adding new
31:43
things in. What if we all talk about
31:47
something we want to let go of from 2025?
31:49
Because I'm sure we all have plenty we want to let go of nice
31:53
And like, what's our intention for the new year?
31:55
I love that. Is that something you did with
31:57
company or is this a family thing?
32:00
So interesting. I've no I never did that with
32:03
company. I wish I would have thought to
32:06
do that. Do you mean like the company?
32:08
Yeah, I don't know why I forget my article, but yeah, the.
32:12
I never did. I've always had, well, when I
32:15
was younger, I I stupidly made like goals and you know.
32:22
Idiot. Idiot.
32:24
We have. We have corporate goals.
32:25
Those those aren't. Idiots.
32:27
Stupid goal. Goal oriented Barbie.
32:28
Goals. No, no, no.
32:30
Like. Not goals.
32:31
What are they called? Do you have a Barbie with a
32:33
checklist? No.
32:34
And I got the board. You guys OK?
32:36
Sorry, resolutions. That's what I'm trying.
32:38
To say resolution. So corporate goals, great,
32:40
right, like you do your corporate goals, you get your
32:42
team all together, you hit your you need to achieve to
32:45
something. Yes, resolutions I think are.
32:48
Like made to be broken kind. Of thing just yeah.
32:50
And so you asked me if I do goals, Yeah.
32:54
And are with the company. So yeah, do goals.
32:57
I don't do resolutions, but I've always done a word.
33:00
And I find words of the year are a lot easier for me to like come
33:04
back to. And it gives me the gift of like
33:06
space to do it. And so like when I was, when I
33:11
wanted to be finished at work, I had the word of freedom.
33:16
And so I worked for a year and it took a year to like get out
33:20
of my career. And then the next year I
33:23
realized how burnt out I was. And so my word was health.
33:26
And it took. Health, health, health.
33:30
It's like, no, I've been there. Yep.
33:32
And it took. Me AI mean it took me a full
33:35
year to really like reign that in, and so I've done that a lot.
33:39
How about you? Nice.
33:40
Goals. Resolutions.
33:41
Intentions. We I do like with some friends,
33:44
we'll do a sorry, what is it on the 21st?
33:48
It's I'm so I'm so sorry to interrupt.
33:51
In every episode that you haven't, you'll see in this
33:54
studio, I keep hitting this. It's the armrest.
33:57
I took them off. And I get in trouble for my
34:00
clicking pen and you're like. And I had to put them back on.
34:03
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What the?
34:04
Hell, OK, Can we put it in the budget for a different chair,
34:06
please? So sorry.
34:09
It's getting someone's going to be like.
34:10
And that's when that's when we lost it all.
34:13
And I'll be like, sorry, sorry. What were you saying?
34:19
OK, OK. So sorry I interrupted you,
34:21
Heather, please. Continue.
34:22
No, you're good. Did a like a thing with friends.
34:25
You know the moon, the 21st, the solstice, Oh my God was.
34:29
Really. She's a solstice party.
34:31
Yeah, we, we'll do that. We it's called Festivus and it's
34:34
really fun. Well.
34:34
Festivus is a Seinfeld party. Yeah, very different.
34:37
We we, but it's not though, because we definitely do feats
34:40
of strength and we also we do and we do airing of grievances,
34:46
which is always the most fun part we go around in and you
34:48
can't, it kind of isn't. You can't talk back.
34:50
My kids love it. OK.
34:52
Can you imagine your kids roasting you and you can't say
34:54
anything back? They just say whatever, OK?
34:58
You'll see it Festivus every day anyway, so we'll do that.
35:01
A letting a leaving behind in a in a new.
35:04
A new intentional. Yeah, that's good.
35:06
Yeah, OK. Are we doing that right now?
35:08
Yeah, I thought we were. Yeah, but we are we.
35:10
Can OK, who wants to go first? So this is what we're leaving
35:14
behind. Leaving behind and.
35:16
And by the way, let's, you know, say to our audience here too,
35:20
like if you have something that you want to leave behind that
35:23
you'd be open to sharing, like put it in the comments or
35:25
comment on our Instagram, like share.
35:28
Let's like use this as a time for other people to share too.
35:31
That would be really cool to hear from people.
35:33
It would, and we've been getting the best voice memos lately.
35:36
Oh yeah, send in the voice. Memo there.
35:38
It's so easy to do I I hadn't done 1 yet myself, just because
35:41
I'd you set it up brilliantly. It is.
35:44
So easy just. Go to not all that this and it
35:48
is so easy. You just click on the thing
35:50
right from your phone wherever record hit submit, you
35:53
completely anonymous. You don't have to fill out your
35:54
name and if you can if you want to, but you do not have to.
35:57
And we get it and they are fantastic.
36:00
So yeah, we need to start playing some on.
36:02
There, Yeah, we should put someone there.
36:04
There was one that came in that was a very descriptive, very
36:07
strong feelings about stuffing versus dressing.
36:10
No, not just a voice memo. We it was a three-part voice
36:14
memo that one. And I also got at least at least
36:19
4 personal texts to my personal number of people that listen
36:24
that also have my number. Just that's a mistake.
36:27
Ripping me apart from my fact checking I'm dressing and
36:31
stuffing. I'm so sorry.
36:32
OK, Let's in the meantime until, yeah, until people go through
36:37
the quote UN quote proper channels, if they text you,
36:41
let's just make an announcement that is fair game for the show.
36:44
If they text you, we can bring it up.
36:46
Yeah, OK. So can I have one of you say
36:48
that to camera? Cuz that way it'll be more Yeah,
36:51
I mean if. You text.
36:53
If you text us a sticky situation or an opinion, it is
36:56
fair game for the show. We're taking it as a submission.
36:58
I'm looking at you, Sarah Tupac calling.
37:02
You out coolest last name still ever. 2 pack. 2 pack.
37:07
OK, so we're leaving stuff behind.
37:09
Do you want of? You want to?
37:11
Go sure, I brought some show and tell.
37:14
I love show and tell. So back story is, as I talk
37:20
about therapy all the time, I'm as podcast, I think it's just
37:23
like therapeutic just being here in the room with y'all.
37:26
But one thing I have wrestled with is I'm a bit of a critical
37:33
perfectionist. If you haven't noticed, I
37:36
haven't. Oh, it's such a lie.
37:38
No, what are you talking about? Oh my gosh, anyway, you make
37:41
things. I, it's just been horrible.
37:44
Like I just, I, it's like it's something you know, you have and
37:47
you don't really want to be so critical.
37:49
You want to be like sweet and kind.
37:52
I just, I've worked very hard to like get rid of that heart and I
37:57
can't do it. And I finally, like I was
38:00
talking to a friend, a friend of the pod we had her on.
38:04
Her name's Cindy for guard. She used to sponsor.
38:07
Maybe she's sponsor again. She I was complaining to her and
38:13
like, I have been trying to get rid of this like critic persona.
38:16
I don't want to be so critical to my children, to my
38:19
colleagues. And I work hard and I'm like, OK
38:23
at it. But then it comes back like, and
38:25
I'm like, it's my default. And I'm like going to grow old
38:28
and I'm going to be like 90 in the nursing home.
38:30
And what's going to happen? You're going to go back to your
38:32
default? Like I don't know that I can
38:34
actually. Like.
38:35
Shut it. She's like maybe you don't.
38:40
She's like first of all, it's recognize how helpful it's been
38:44
to you. And I'm like, OK, it is helpful.
38:46
I like, set a high bar, set high standards, and those have been
38:50
fruitful in my life. She's like, well, maybe you just
38:55
recognize it, know that you have it, and then have the pause.
39:03
Do you remember she talked to us about the pause?
39:05
Yes. Yeah.
39:06
And so. So you hear it.
39:08
You hear yourself doing instead of, like, fighting it, just say,
39:11
like, pause and be like in your mind, OK, Yep, there's the
39:16
critic. And then what you choose to say
39:19
doesn't have to be critical. So I was talking to my coach
39:23
about this as well. And she goes, OK, let's
39:26
visualize this. Like, take your left hand and
39:29
who do you want to be? How do you want to be perceived?
39:32
And my son had this like monkey that he carried around with him
39:37
his whole life, like the cutest little stuffed animal monkey and
39:41
called it monkey. And I'm like, I want to be
39:43
perceived as like someone who nurtures, really.
39:47
I'm thinking about my son. But I'm like, how sweet this
39:49
monkey is. And then she's like, OK, on the
39:51
other hand, what do you not like?
39:55
And I'm like, oh, it's like the flying monkey from the Wizard of
40:00
Oz, like the screeching monkey, like that terrifying.
40:03
That's how I come. Like, I make my kids put phones
40:06
in boxes. I'm like screeching monkey.
40:09
And so she's like, OK, And so she had me do this whole
40:12
exercise of like, OK, you want to let in soft sweet monkey?
40:18
You want to let out screeching monkey.
40:20
And now with what Cindy said, we're just going to put a pause
40:23
in between, right? So they're both there.
40:26
They're both a part of you. This is therapy one O 1.
40:29
I'm sure everyone has like a story of it, but here's what I'm
40:33
doing for the new year. So I just ordered these off of
40:36
Etsy last week and I'm making a key chain that I can like you
40:42
know what like purses like labudos, what it's called
40:45
labudos, Laboo boos right? Laboo Boo I.
40:48
Don't know, I'm not good with that stuff.
40:50
I know I'm old. I don't know.
40:51
Is it Birkin? Just kidding.
40:53
It's a Laboo. Boo, Is it a Birkin?
40:55
It's a Birkin. It's all I know.
40:56
No, but they have like everyone's doing the bag charms
40:59
and stuff. So I made myself a charm and I'm
41:03
going to show it. I haven't even finished it yet.
41:04
So here is like the sweet monkey.
41:08
Can you see that clay in the camera?
41:11
Yes. Sweet monkey, Sweet little
41:14
monkey. And next to sweet monkey, I have
41:16
something that is a heart with my initials.
41:19
It's like I love me. Like it's OK to love myself.
41:23
Yeah. And then on the other side is
41:27
like the monkeys from the Wizard of Oz, but they looked.
41:30
It's like fly of my pretties. And it's wicked out right now.
41:35
So wicked. Yeah, yeah.
41:36
But then I'm like, that doesn't look wicked enough.
41:38
So then I got this other like, like super wicked monkey.
41:44
And then I'm going to put them on this term so I can always
41:47
carry with them. That's cool.
41:49
That's a part of me. And I'm going to let the wicked
41:51
go, and I'm going to bring in like this sweet monkey.
41:56
I love the pause because it really you kind of need to sit
42:02
in both for a while, you know, and it's hard to just be like,
42:06
I'm going to switch and be this way now.
42:07
You can't be realistic. No, it's.
42:09
Not. Carry that through.
42:11
That's beautiful. My little kitchen, remember?
42:15
Just toss it around to make a Jingle on the microphone.
42:17
I love it. So is that also then you're like
42:19
taking new? Is that your new thing too?
42:22
Yeah, so the new, the new is really the heart.
42:24
Like I'm gonna love myself for what I am, but I'm I can still
42:28
change. I might just not purge.
42:30
You know what I mean? You don't need to purge.
42:32
There's beautiful. Things in the in the bad monkey
42:36
I do. I do highly recommend monkey
42:39
videos though as you're going through this time.
42:41
They're my favorite going through this time.
42:44
I think you should indulge. Because they're so cute from
42:47
the. Cute little monkey they.
42:48
Are cute. I want to be cute.
42:49
The one. Where they're giving him a
42:51
little bath. Oh, I've seen that one.
42:53
Oh, it is the. Million of them, you're right.
42:55
So cute. You're right.
42:57
Yeah, Star Chef bag charms and cute monkey videos.
43:00
Yeah, your algorithm is going to be all monkeyed up.
43:03
Yeah, it's OK. I love it.
43:04
I do want to let you and our listeners know that monkey is
43:08
also a slang term for a female genitalia.
43:12
So do not Google things like bad monkey video like don't look up
43:16
something What the what? I'm just letting you know this
43:19
is a PSA. I really.
43:20
A female? Why wouldn't that be a male
43:22
genitalia? I didn't come up with.
43:24
It bad monkey is like a bad no. No, just monkey.
43:28
Just monkey. Yeah.
43:30
Just monkey. Just monkey.
43:32
Why I? Don't know, it doesn't look like
43:34
a monkey. I shouldn't have said anything.
43:36
But it should have well. Thank you like a monkey.
43:40
Mine doesn't. It.
43:44
This show OK what are you letting out I.
43:51
Think I'm gonna let go of my monkey video because now I'm a
43:55
little worried. I'm so swear it's gonna be.
43:59
I didn't know, I didn't know. That's actually rare that you
44:02
didn't know like that's. Usually I'm up on this, up on
44:06
that stuff. OK, so getting us back on track
44:08
so we can get people to their holiday parties.
44:11
Yeah. What are you letting go?
44:16
I'm going to let go the need to succeed.
44:29
So that doesn't mean I'm going to try partner be a failure.
44:36
So don't give up on me, but it means that that is not a healthy
44:43
driving force for me anymore. I get that.
44:47
You know, and it also looks different like.
44:50
What does it mean to succeed? But I'm talking about that kind
44:55
of ego driven need to succeed. I've got to let that go.
45:03
Yeah, this podcast has been great for that because.
45:07
We lay it all out there. Yeah, the ego is like, I'm
45:10
unhireable. I.
45:11
Know I just have to say like. Yeah, no one's tanked.
45:14
No one's saying let me bring her and to lead my company.
45:17
Not that I, and thank God that that's OK, right?
45:21
I don't. Yeah.
45:22
Have you regularly fuck you? Let it go.
45:27
Because you're the because you're the doer.
45:30
I'm the player player anyway. No, I, that piece of my ego has
45:37
not it. It served me and it's time and
45:39
day and that's great. I have no regrets on it.
45:41
But I don't need to take that with me forward.
45:44
I think I've achieved that's here now it's going to be what
45:49
am I bringing in is the soulful feeding the soul, not picking up
45:55
the phone as soon as I wake up reflection heading into the next
46:01
50 years like that. I just feel this transition of
46:05
like toward peace, inner peace and letting that guide me
46:11
instead of this driving force of external validation from a
46:14
predefined success that I didn't define being put on me.
46:18
Are we? I don't mean to be, but just
46:20
that I'm letting that shutting that layer.
46:23
Did you hear about the like snake and horse thing?
46:25
No, I saw that on Instagram or something.
46:27
I don't know, 2025 was like shutting, was it like the hard
46:31
stuff like like letting it go and then the horse being like
46:35
the year of the horse? I'm not, I don't know a lot
46:36
about that stuff, so I can't speak to it.
46:38
Well, OK. But the horse being like
46:39
motivation driven, like movement forward, like movement momentum.
46:43
But yours is not moving towards success.
46:45
No, but it's an inner movement and yeah, for that.
46:48
And I do feel like I'm part of emotion right now and I'm part
46:51
of a movement, and I don't know exactly how that's being
46:54
defined, but I feel it like throughout.
46:57
And I feel like it's something that's bigger than me and I feel
47:00
like it's not about me at all. And that feels good.
47:03
I feel you on that one a lot. That's good.
47:07
You're already doing the soulful piece.
47:09
Like I'm seeing so many great signs of that.
47:13
Thank you. I.
47:14
Appreciate it. Can I also say that Blakely, you
47:17
I see you already practicing the thing that you want to do for
47:20
next year, taking the pause. You've mentioned that off camera
47:23
multiple times. Yes.
47:26
And you're like, Cindy taught me this.
47:27
But it's like, I feel like Cindy.
47:30
I'm not going to speak for her, but I feel like it would.
47:35
Maybe the mission now is like, this is that's yours now.
47:38
You didn't just hear it from a friend.
47:39
It is what you're doing. It's yours now.
47:41
Oh yeah, like. That's next level.
47:43
That's next level. But I think you're already doing
47:46
it. So just how you talk about it,
47:47
you're just doing a great job. And also I totally agree with
47:50
you that Heather is doing the soulful stuff.
47:52
She is the one in our group that's like, OK everybody.
47:57
Yeah, she. Is take a second nice, let's
47:59
reset that. You have that total energy, you
48:03
bring that into our friend group, into our work group and
48:05
it's really nice. Thanks.
48:07
Clay Yeah, When you talk about our work group, you mean the
48:10
three of us in this room? Our work group.
48:14
Our work group. Our work.
48:15
Group. It sounds like we're like
48:16
picking up trash on the side of the highway like our work group.
48:20
Our work group Also, you've got crusty white stuff around your
48:22
neck so you are a little hard to take serious right now.
48:25
It's OK over to. You at least I can't smell what
48:27
it is. It's good it's that old.
48:31
Sure, it's eggnog, that's what it is.
48:34
Probably fingers crossed. I don't like that it's changing.
48:38
I don't like that you're like, oh, that sounds more right.
48:41
I don't want to hear what sounds more right later.
48:44
I don't know what it is. Gosh my head is so shiny from
48:49
how I'm sweating. You don't have a Santa hat on.
48:52
It's a lot. You're right.
48:53
Yeah. All right.
48:53
What do you mean behind it? OK.
48:55
So this year was a year where I was really scarcity mindset,
49:04
where I acted a lot for good reasons out of like, I don't
49:07
have very much conserve, conserve, make sure it lasts.
49:11
And this podcast has helped me get out of that.
49:16
And so I'm really grateful for that.
49:19
So I'm leaving behind the scarcity mindset and moving into
49:22
more of like an abundance mindset of like.
49:27
He's taking your success. I had a he's.
49:29
Taking my money, so he's taking that's.
49:33
OK, I'm moving into this, you know, like moral.
49:35
Come to me, you know. Meanwhile, we're like, yeah, we
49:40
get it. That's so true.
49:43
Don't worry him. But part of it's not just
49:45
scarcity into abundance, it's embracing things like this year
49:50
I was not as creative. And when I am in like a scarcity
49:56
mindset, I don't think creativity should flow from me
50:00
right now. I should use that energy for
50:04
something that's going to Get Me Out of the scarcity mindset.
50:07
So I was kind of right. But it's like I'm ready to be
50:10
done with that and move into the next season.
50:13
I just accept that that's where it is.
50:14
So more creativity, more weirdness.
50:19
I listened to an interview with Jack White and Conan O'Brien and
50:22
Jack White when he was growing up and started a business in
50:26
Detroit as an upholsterer. His invoices were crayon on like
50:31
yellow sheets of paper. And it just said, like, you owe
50:34
me $300. And he would show up in like a
50:37
yellow suit and driving like a yellow and black van.
50:42
And it was like an all like an art piece.
50:43
Like he was a creative person who's just like, this is how I
50:46
would do it if I had the choice. So he did it that way.
50:50
Wow. And that really inspired me.
50:52
So yeah, I bringing that kind of like creative artist just energy
50:59
to just letting it flow from you instead of thinking like now
51:04
it's work time, now it's creative time.
51:06
Just kind of embracing the identity of like a creative
51:09
person and saying stepping into it and being like, OK, this is
51:14
my creative energy can flow in all aspects of my life and
51:18
doesn't have to be compartmentalized.
51:20
So. Is that why you keep your show
51:23
notes on a ripped piece of legal pad?
51:26
Like? Is that a Jack White like?
51:29
Because I feel like you could lose it, like just take a
51:30
picture of it and then you'd have it better.
51:33
But no, seriously, I do love, love, love, love this.
51:36
And here's the deal. All of that that you just said
51:41
is irrespective of profession. Like, I think that's the most
51:45
interesting thing right now is like, we're all going through
51:47
these things. Yeah.
51:49
We are here together and so there's an overlap of what we're
51:52
all doing that's going to it could make this podcast insanely
51:56
successful, which it's my heart and soul and I would love for
51:59
that to happen. Yeah.
52:00
And also I can take it with me to the law firm tomorrow and
52:04
fully be present there. Like all of these things flow
52:07
over to the other human on the other side of the desk, the
52:11
phone, the computer, the conversation to build something
52:14
that is outside of us. So it doesn't.
52:16
It's not about pushing one specific agenda forward, it's
52:19
just how are we developing that way?
52:21
I heard that you're going to be more soulful and be in the
52:25
moment and Craig's. Who's Craig?
52:29
You don't want to order pizzas on the phone.
52:30
That's the most common mistake. Can I get a name for the pizza?
52:35
Yeah. Clay Craig.
52:36
That is the second time I've called Clay the wrong name today
52:40
and two different names. OK, it's going to say you are
52:46
soulful and in the moment Clay is like abundant and creative
52:50
and I'm a. Good monkey.
52:52
You're a good monkey. Every team needs a good monkey.
52:55
OK? You're actually not quite the
52:58
good monkey, though, because we don't.
52:59
Let's not forget it. You're on pause.
53:00
You're between monkeys. You're between.
53:07
Monkeys. I am on the pause, the
53:10
menopause. She's on a monkey.
53:13
Pause. OK, I am just going to think my
53:20
wording through, but I will. I'm going to be surrounding
53:23
myself with creative, abundant, soulful, in the present moment
53:27
people, and I love it. Yay.
53:30
Me too. Yeah.
53:31
All right. OK, we have we again.
53:34
The three of us somehow managed to talk for hours.
53:36
Sorry about that. We'll see. 10 minutes it was, it
53:40
was supposed. To be it was never going to be
53:41
10 minutes. We're not that unrealistic.
53:43
It was going to be 30, so we'll. See, but we get together.
53:46
It is so much fun. It is.
53:47
And we like doing this because we know we have an active
53:51
community. We have active listeners and
53:53
viewers, friends, family, Yeah, who text us and who are telling
53:56
us they're enjoying it. And.
53:59
Yeah. Yeah, that's what I want.
54:01
Another, They're like a stretch goal for 2026.
54:03
I want to like, meet people. Yeah, we need.
54:06
Some. Yeah, I agree.
54:07
We found some. Requests for that, yeah, I think
54:09
that's. Good.
54:09
I want them to be on the show. We should do that.
54:11
I know we need. More subscribers?
54:14
Yeah, yeah. We'll take some more of those.
54:15
Too. That's what I'm going to ask
54:16
Santa for. OK, subscribers.
54:18
Yeah, subscribers. So if you can make my make a
54:20
wish come true for me. Yeah.
54:22
So that's a Christmas wish. Smash that subscribe button.
54:27
I hate when people say that. I know I don't want to ask for
54:30
that. I just want it to happen
54:31
naturally. But then also they tell us we're
54:33
supposed to ask, and then they tell us we have to do these
54:35
YouTube whatever they call the thumbnails, which we have no
54:39
control over and we look like idiots.
54:41
Everybody do your best thumbnail face.
54:44
Yeah. Oh no, that will actually happen
54:46
and I don't want that. One no, no little minds.
54:48
When I'm laughing it's like it's the worst.
54:51
We look like idiot, yeah, but that's OK.
54:54
Who cares? It doesn't matter.
54:55
It's all about the inside. It's not about our success.
54:58
Absolutely. So happy holidays.
55:01
Thank you so much for all the support so far.
55:04
We are so excited about 2026 coming up.
55:07
We've got full guests line up. It's going to keep going on.
55:11
So stick with us. We'll stick with you.
55:12
We'll be showing up every week. We are going to take a quick
55:15
monkey pause so we won't be back until January 8th but have the
55:20
best new year ever. Make you guys are gonna survive.
55:24
Okay, Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, happy happy holidays.
55:28
Cheers.