Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / Do Cute Parenting Stuff With Your Wife Before It's Too Late!
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- 0:05Hi everybody and welcome to the Doctor Psych Mom Show.
- 0:08Today I'm going to talk about why it's important to do cute
- 0:11parenting stuff with your wife and what that even means and
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- 0:54So what do I mean by cute parenting stuff.
- 0:56So I always talk about the pumpkin patch.
- 0:58This is like, you know, I mean you probably just had a bunch
- 1:01for other holidays based on when this is going to be scheduled.
- 1:05You probably just did stuff for Christmas and driving to see the
- 1:09lights and like, whatever you're coming up on New Year's, What is
- 1:13she going to want to do something with the kids with
- 1:16staying up late or not staying up late, based on how she thinks
- 1:19about staying up late, but something that involves a lot of
- 1:23pictures that she could say. She's making memories that the
- 1:26kids look extra cute and that involves other human beings.
- 1:30And if you are a guy that either does not like other human beings
- 1:34or thinks that the kids aren't going to remember this shit
- 1:36anyway, or the things that you work hard all week and now you
- 1:39just want to break on the weekends, your wife is going to
- 1:42hate you when she's older because this is the only time
- 1:46that you have small kids. So, you know, it's kind of one
- 1:51of these situations where there's only one real right
- 1:54answer and that I have seen, you know, just like I have only one
- 1:59right answer on in the sex domain.
- 2:01Like, I don't say, oh, there's all kinds of marriages, you
- 2:04know, And for some of them, you know, the guy doesn't get laid
- 2:06for like 10 years in the middle, 'cause, like you have young
- 2:09kids. I don't ever say that bullshit.
- 2:11Right? So you could trust me when I
- 2:14also say that there is no world in which you do not have to do
- 2:18little parenting stuff that your wife thinks is cute.
- 2:21It's extremely important when the children are young and if
- 2:24you don't do it when they're young, then when they are older
- 2:27and she is older, she will not want to be married anymore in
- 2:31any meaningful sense because to her, having these kids is the
- 2:35apex of her life. She thought about being a mother
- 2:38since she was a little girl usually, and now she wants
- 2:42there's they are really only young for a short amount of
- 2:45time. She hears that all over the
- 2:46Internet because it's true. Time only goes One Direction and
- 2:51you only have an actual baby, by the way, for 12 months and then
- 2:54it's a toddler. And that makes women very sad,
- 2:57you know? So you can't just not do the
- 3:01stuff ever. And you can't just not do most
- 3:05of the stuff, either, and assume that she has her mother or her
- 3:08sister or some friend. And then that's OK.
- 3:12So you have to do the stuff that she's taking pictures of with
- 3:16the kids. You have to go to their little
- 3:18lessons. You have to go to not all of
- 3:20them. I mean, you don't have to go to,
- 3:22like, every time that the kid goes to a gymnastics class, But
- 3:25if it's on the weekend, then you should, you know, cuz what the
- 3:28fuck else are you doing? Truly?
- 3:29So you're going to the gym. You can do that a different
- 3:31time. You're watching a whole bunch of
- 3:33televised sports. I don't have a lot of patience
- 3:35for that. You know, because that is just
- 3:38sitting down, you know, passively consuming shit.
- 3:41And then you're going to be like, well, she's on Facebook a
- 3:43lot. I don't care.
- 3:45What do you like? You're going to compete.
- 3:46Are you going to be a race to the bottom on everything to see
- 3:49who could be like a lazier person?
- 3:50You know, what I'm saying is this.
- 3:52If you want to watch televised sports for the entirety of the
- 3:55weekend with small children, I'm telling you from everything that
- 4:00I know and that I've seen couples counseling, that is, you
- 4:03are creating a tremendous empathic rupture because you
- 4:07only have one weekend, right? The like, it's not like you can
- 4:11alternate like what days the weekend is and like sometimes
- 4:15you know, the the kids are in school when you're watching
- 4:18televised sports, it doesn't work like that.
- 4:20So unless this is a huge family thing where everybody's really
- 4:24into watching sports, people come over, the kids are engaged,
- 4:27somebody you know, like this is a family event.
- 4:29It's fun. This is part of the kids
- 4:31culture. Cool.
- 4:33And maybe you could make it like that.
- 4:34Maybe that could be what you get out of this podcast.
- 4:37Maybe if you want to watch the game that bad, then you should
- 4:40make it part this whole big family event where you get the
- 4:44kids little T-shirts or gear or what have you and everybody's a
- 4:49big fan. And you also save up to get
- 4:52tickets to go in person and take the kids to the game a couple
- 4:54times a season and everybody is a Packers fan or whatever.
- 4:59And that's like a huge thing. And you involve yourself in
- 5:02cleaning the house so that all the family can come over,
- 5:05extended family or friends can come over with their kids, and
- 5:09you take some pictures of the kids in their Packers gear with
- 5:13your wife, who you also bought a Packer sweatshirt for, and
- 5:17whatever the hell else you want to do.
- 5:19But you're going to make it a big event, right?
- 5:21Because otherwise it is just one dude sitting on the couch and
- 5:25his wife figuring out something to do with the kids during that
- 5:29time, which is not a, you know, not a negligible amount of time.
- 5:33It's an entire afternoon, right? And if the kids don't nap during
- 5:37that time, then she's got to figure out something to do with
- 5:40them every single weekend. And it sucks.
- 5:42And for a young woman that you're also leaving money on the
- 5:46table here, because if they do nap, then that's an excellent
- 5:49time to have sex. Because that is not the morning
- 5:53when the kids may wake up. And and it's not the night when
- 5:55she's exhausted, as I've taught you, but it's the afternoon when
- 5:58she could be, you know, pretty in the mood if you weren't
- 6:02watching the game. And if you're like, Oh no, my
- 6:04wife would never want to have sex on in the afternoon, you
- 6:07don't know until you ask. Because she may think that the
- 6:10only option is you sitting on your ass and watching the game.
- 6:12And that does not put her in the mood.
- 6:14But if you were to turn off the game and look at her and say you
- 6:17want to go upstairs, you might be very, very surprised.
- 6:20And if you're listening to this as a woman, you could ask him,
- 6:24do you really? I realized that I would have sex
- 6:25on the weekend if you were not watching the game, because that
- 6:28takes up six hours of your day or of your weekend or whatever.
- 6:33So that's just one big one that I see a lot is, is the sport
- 6:37consumption. Now if you're playing sports,
- 6:40then at least you know you're getting, you're extending your
- 6:42lifespan. The kids are watching you, you
- 6:45know, be healthy, be active, be physical.
- 6:48If you're just an, if, you are literally just watching.
- 6:51And that is like the closest you get to sports is just watching
- 6:53it. You got to think about that,
- 6:55right? Because like, you know, if she
- 6:57sat down and watched reality TV in the middle of the day from
- 7:011:00 to 4:00, you know, you would not be thrilled about
- 7:03that. Well, you have to figure out
- 7:04what to do with the kids. So, I mean, that just is what it
- 7:07is. And if I lose followers, good,
- 7:10you know, you'll have more time for the sports.
- 7:12And it's just is what it is. But that is truly what I see
- 7:15because she feels that you are picking TV over family time, and
- 7:22that's never going to go well, just like it doesn't go well
- 7:25when you think that she's picking mindless scrolling
- 7:27overtime to be close as a couple, right.
- 7:30So if you want to go on date night, what if you wanted to go
- 7:32on date night? She's like, Nah, got to catch up
- 7:34on reality TV. You would not be happy, right?
- 7:39So, you know, nobody wants to feel second to passive
- 7:43consumption. It's like the worst of any
- 7:46world. The person's not even doing
- 7:47anything and they prefer to be sitting watching something than
- 7:51to be engaging with you. Men feel this is an empathic
- 7:53rupture when the woman is addicted to TV or her phone.
- 7:56And women feel like that when the man is addicted to TV,
- 7:59sports or whatever, and his and or his phone or gaming or
- 8:03whatever. So this is probably beyond the
- 8:05purview of this. I should probably do a whole
- 8:07podcast about that. Anyway, you got to engage on the
- 8:11weekends with the children. I'll tell you, coming out on the
- 8:14other end of it, with my kids all being in double digits, it
- 8:17is a small amount of time you think they're going to want to
- 8:21hang out with you forever and they don't, you know?
- 8:24So she's not wrong in thinking that there's like a finite
- 8:28window that you can engage with these children and do cute stuff
- 8:32with them. And if you think, why is
- 8:34everything about the pictures? I don't even know what to say.
- 8:37I mean, I have made that so clear that people have different
- 8:39values. Women like to look back at the
- 8:41memories of the pictures. The kids look cute.
- 8:44Pictures are big in our culture. This is how you show all of your
- 8:48friends what you did on the weekend.
- 8:49Because we don't all live. Like, it's not like renfest
- 8:52times where we all, like, see each other in the marketplace,
- 8:55you know, and she likes it. Just like how you like porn.
- 8:58Probably would be the equivalent.
- 9:00Like, why do you like looking at moving pictures called
- 9:02pornography? Well, that's why she likes
- 9:04looking at pictures of other people's kids and taking
- 9:06pictures of her own. Because people are visually
- 9:08oriented. And in the absence of actually
- 9:11getting to do those pornography things right, you're going to
- 9:14get to look at them. Which, of course, should you use
- 9:16porn? No.
- 9:17Should she be like literally, like setting up like The Truman
- 9:20Show with your children? No.
- 9:22But if she wants to take a few pictures, you know, you know, of
- 9:25events, that is so she could look at it later and say, I'm a
- 9:28good mom. I did these things.
- 9:29Look how cute the kids are. I want to frame this one.
- 9:32I want to not do I want to, you know, like not frame that one.
- 9:35It's like a whole, like, creative thing.
- 9:38And she puts the pictures up in your house.
- 9:40It's a whole deal. So you got to get with that
- 9:42program. If you want to have a happy
- 9:44wife, you have to engage with the children.
- 9:47For many men, this is not a big deal.
- 9:49And they're already gauging with engaging with the children as
- 9:51much as their wife is. I see that more and more, but I
- 9:55do still still see the opposite of that, where the woman is
- 10:00expected to give her whole weekend over to the children and
- 10:03the man that's his break. And this is particularly
- 10:06egregious when she's a stay at home mom where he feels that
- 10:09that's literally what she signed up for and this is his only time
- 10:12to relax. When is her time to relax then?
- 10:14Right. So you got to think about it.
- 10:17The stay at home moms with the kids that are in school is a
- 10:20different deal. I get it.
- 10:22They got a lot of time to relax. I'm with you.
- 10:24Fine. However, if they are, if if
- 10:26they're not yet school aged and or she's also working right,
- 10:29then she got no time either because she's with them the
- 10:32whole week or she's at work during the week too.
- 10:34So either way nobody has any time.
- 10:36So that means that the weekends have to be split.
- 10:40And if they're split where you take the kids sometimes and then
- 10:43she takes the kids sometimes, that works for some people.
- 10:45But for other people, the more sensitive or the more highly
- 10:50sensitive or, you know, just a family oriented women, really
- 10:56somebody who wants to be in a family versus like a
- 10:59collectivist versus an individualist.
- 11:02So she wants to feel that the whole family does things
- 11:05together. This is really big for a lot of
- 11:07women and men are like, why aren't we dividing and
- 11:09conquering? Maybe you could call a quality
- 11:11time love language because that's what it is too, you know?
- 11:14And so if she wants to do stuff as a couple rather as a family,
- 11:18and you don't ever want to do stuff as a family and basically
- 11:21look at the kids as you know, is it your turn or my turn?
- 11:25I tag you in with the kids so I can do what I want and then you
- 11:28tag me and so you can do what you want.
- 11:30That is a really good way to practice for being divorced.
- 11:32And I see that, in fact that's not just like a throwaway funny
- 11:36line. I see that that that happens
- 11:38when couples get divorced for years already.
- 11:41A lot of times the woman will say to me, well, you know, it's
- 11:43not really going to bother the kids that much as it might with
- 11:46another family because they're used to us just taking turns
- 11:49with them. He does his thing, I I do my
- 11:51thing, you know, he does his thing with the kids while I go
- 11:53to the gym. I watch them while he goes out
- 11:56with his friends. He watches them while I go out
- 11:58with my friends. I travel to see my friends.
- 12:00He travels to see his friends. Basically, we don't have any
- 12:02family time and except like maybe major holidays and that's
- 12:05it. So, you know, then it's the
- 12:09woman says. So the kids aren't really even
- 12:11used to spending time with us together, and so then whatever.
- 12:14Might as well get divorced from her perspective because she's
- 12:17unhappy. She assumes that he doesn't give
- 12:20a shit really about spending time with her because he never
- 12:22really did, with the possible exception of wanting to sleep
- 12:25with her. So this whole family time is
- 12:27major and doing these cute little things that if you want
- 12:30even extra credit, you would take pictures of your wife doing
- 12:33stuff with the children or family pictures, selfies of the
- 12:36whole family. This is important.
- 12:39This is all over media, so you know it's a common female
- 12:42complaint is that they don't have pictures with them and the
- 12:45kids doing cute things. And if they do it's like you
- 12:49know, they had to tell the guy to do it.
- 12:51He doesn't just take pictures. So another one thing you could
- 12:54get out of this podcast is take pictures of your wife with the
- 12:57kids and even send them to her or even post them on social
- 13:01media. And I have a whole podcast about
- 13:04why your wife wants you to post pictures on social media that I
- 13:06believe is that has that is the title.
- 13:09So go forth and listen to that one too.
- 13:11But the kids really only are little a short amount of time.
- 13:16They only want to do cute little stuff a short amount of time.
- 13:19Eventually you get to a point where you know there's like a
- 13:22cute playground somewhere and nobody cares.
- 13:24And that point you know, because the kids are too old to play on
- 13:27the playground and that comes sooner than you think.
- 13:31And your wife talks to other women all the time about the
- 13:34children and at various ages and stages.
- 13:37And so she knows this stuff is fleeting.
- 13:39If she tends toward anxiety or depression, sometimes she can be
- 13:42even very, very, very upset about this.
- 13:45And I have podcasts and posts called Why your wife gets so
- 13:47upset about the kids growing up. That's very relevant to
- 13:50understand this as well. Sometimes she takes it too far.
- 13:53Sometimes she tries to keep them younger than they should be,
- 13:56Like in my in my podcast about how when men want their wife to
- 14:00act like she's younger, it would be the equivalent of the woman
- 14:03wanting the daughter to go to the American Girl doll store
- 14:05into adolescence, right? And so sometimes women actually
- 14:09do stuff like that. They want the kids to act
- 14:10younger than they are because they don't want them to grow up
- 14:13because they're so sad about it. That's not healthy.
- 14:16But when your kids are actually little, wanting to kind of seize
- 14:20the day into cute little family activities is normal and
- 14:23adaptive. And that's being a good mom and
- 14:27by any rubric in our culture, and it's either kind of engage
- 14:30or be left behind because really, she's not going to
- 14:34forgive you for that. And I've seen that so many times
- 14:37in in couples counseling where guys think, man, I really should
- 14:41have done it, you know, I should have gone.
- 14:43I should have gone to the Pumpkin Festival and they say
- 14:46it, you know, I'm this is a big one in therapy for avoidant
- 14:49guys. When they're upset that the
- 14:51woman is divorcing them, they say I'm sorry I wasn't involved
- 14:53enough with the family. I'm sorry.
- 14:55I was always doing my own thing. That's true.
- 14:58That's like, you know, and it's not just about her.
- 15:00It's not just about the divorce. As an older man with a with a
- 15:04wider perspective, they think, do I remember sitting down and
- 15:08playing that video game? No.
- 15:09Would I have remembered teaching my kids to swim?
- 15:12Yeah. You know, And my kid would
- 15:14remember it too. And that would have been a nice
- 15:16thing for basically me and the children too.
- 15:18Because remember, it's not just her.
- 15:19The kids also want you there at whatever they're doing.
- 15:23They want you around. And so you know, it's it's
- 15:26something to really reflect on. And if your hackles go up that
- 15:30you feel like, oh, I'm on the defensive, think about why.
- 15:33Think about if there's anything, any truth to it that you are you
- 15:37are kind of opting out of a lot of events that would make your
- 15:41family units stronger and maybe your wife has a point.
- 15:44Alright, I hope this was useful to you guys and please do
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