Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Unspoken Sale: Communicating Effectively with Text-First Clients
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- 0:00Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
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- 0:25And if you'd love to connect, you can call SMS or WhatsApp me
- 0:28on 08064662140. Today on the podcast, we're
- 0:35going to look at what to do when your customers are not picking
- 0:38your calls. Again today on the podcast, what
- 0:41to do when customers are picking your calls.
- 0:44Now this is a very specific situation and it goes like this.
- 0:49If you've been listening to the diary sessions that I've been
- 0:51making over the last 2-3 weeks, you are aware that I've been
- 0:54doing some work with a solar company that is based out of
- 0:57Lagos and they have a three person sales team that handles
- 1:03inbound leads. Inbound just means you have
- 1:06settings up so that customers have to call you instead.
- 1:10So that the job of your sales people are basically just to
- 1:13sift through leads and try and figure out who is serious, who
- 1:16is curious, do we have a good deal here or not?
- 1:20And one person in the sales team is Shaun.
- 1:24He's the youngest person in the team, well, not in age, but as
- 1:27per all I put is tenure with the company.
- 1:29So he's the youngest in the company.
- 1:31And for one particular customer, he called and there was no
- 1:35answer. And then the customer sent a
- 1:40text message saying where are you located?
- 1:44And of course, so he responded by saying our headquarters is in
- 1:47Lagos and we have operations in Abuja, Port Harcourt and Asaba.
- 1:52And he tried calling the customer again so you could talk
- 1:55some more because as a salesperson, what you're
- 1:58supposed to do is qualification and discovery.
- 2:00What that means is when somebody calls into your company, you're
- 2:03trying to figure out who is this problem, sorry, who's this
- 2:05person? What problem do they have?
- 2:07What's the extent of the problem?
- 2:09You know all those sorts of things because that's what's
- 2:11going to determine how you will carry on the conversation and
- 2:15the relationship. So of course you tried calling
- 2:18and the person did not answer. The next thing the customer sent
- 2:23an SMS saying what is the cost implication for solar for a
- 2:27three bedroom bungalow in Leckie?
- 2:31And if you've been following, you know, right now you can see
- 2:36that there's a pattern which is shown, calls the guy doesn't
- 2:39picks up and then the person sends a text message.
- 2:41And so essentially we're now wondering, or rather Sharon was
- 2:45wondering, what do I do in this situation?
- 2:48I would like to have a phone conversation with a customer so
- 2:51that we can do qualification and discovery.
- 2:53Because when it comes to solar, you know, solar is not like
- 2:56groundnut. You have to ask lots of
- 2:57questions. You have to try and figure out,
- 3:00OK, well now we know 3 bedrooms, but we're not to try and figure
- 3:02out exactly what is it that is being powered.
- 3:05You know, how many AC units, how many deep freezers, how many
- 3:08fridges, how many fans, how many TV's do they have, gaming
- 3:11console, what else? You know, all kinds of things.
- 3:15OK, maybe gaming console is not that significant, but the other
- 3:18things that you have to look into before you deliver a quote,
- 3:20You can't just deliver a quote through a text message just like
- 3:24that because, you know, like I said, it's not as if you're
- 3:26pricing groundnut. So that was the problem in this
- 3:30case. What to do when there's a
- 3:32customer who doesn't answer the phone call.
- 3:36All right, so let me put it this way.
- 3:41OK, before I go in to answer the question, there's one thing I
- 3:42want to point out. A lot of you who are in the
- 3:45sales or maybe you own the business, sometimes a customer
- 3:49asks a question and you guys just provide the answer.
- 3:52That is not bad, but you actually should be taking things
- 3:54one step further because whenever people ask you
- 3:56questions, you need to know the reason behind the question
- 4:00because that will inform what it is you're going to do next.
- 4:03So like in this case where a customer reaches out to the
- 4:05business and says through a text message, where are you located?
- 4:09Please? If you just respond and say our
- 4:12headquarters is in Lagos and we have operations in Abuja, Port
- 4:15Arcot and Asaba, you don't know if you have adequately responded
- 4:20to what it is that they had in mind.
- 4:23So you can provide that information by saying our
- 4:25headquarters is in here and we have operations in here, here,
- 4:28here and here. I hope you don't mind me asking,
- 4:30you know, why were you asking that question?
- 4:33The person might just say something like, well, I prefer
- 4:36not to deal with vendors who are out of state.
- 4:38And then of course, you can now continue the conversation by
- 4:40saying, oh, OK, so where are you located?
- 4:43And you know the the conversation will flow
- 4:46organically from there. But if the person says, I prefer
- 4:50not to deal with vendors out of state and you ask another
- 4:56question like, OK, why? Is it because you're worried
- 4:58about the costs that are going to be involved?
- 5:01And the person says that you now know how to continue the
- 5:04conversation knowing that now you are out of state.
- 5:10Cost is a concern, but at least, you know, asking the question
- 5:14brings all these things to the fore and it helps determine how
- 5:18you're going to move the conversation because sometimes
- 5:21people are asking not because of costs, but just because of
- 5:25security and credibility. They want to be sure that you're
- 5:28within arms reach and they can drive in and come and have a
- 5:30look. And if that's the case that
- 5:32well, the person just wants to deal with the company that's
- 5:36within arms reach and stuff like that.
- 5:38You can even move along the sales process by saying, oh
- 5:40fantastic, since you have that concern.
- 5:42This is our office address. Would you like to come in on
- 5:46Monday morning and then we can have the rest of the
- 5:48conversation there? So these are things you can do
- 5:50to move the sales process along. But basically what I'm trying to
- 5:55say is whenever customers ask you a question, just don't take
- 5:58it at face value and provide the answer.
- 6:00Yes, provide some sort of answer, but then always try and
- 6:02figure out why are they asking the question.
- 6:05It is going to help a lot in determining how you move the
- 6:07sales process along. So now let's go back to sharing
- 6:11on this situation. The customer doesn't want to
- 6:15pick the call. But obviously in this case we
- 6:17need more information because solar pricing and solar
- 6:20solutions are complex solutions and they depend on several
- 6:24factors. So it will be nice to have a
- 6:25conversation, it will be nice, it would be ideal.
- 6:30But this in what to do next. We have to consider this thing
- 6:34now as a general business philosophy, we have to be multi
- 6:38modal in our approach. What multi modal just means is
- 6:42we have to meet people on whatever native field they like
- 6:48and we have to continue with them where comfortable.
- 6:50For instance, I'm a phone call person and I'm a face to face
- 6:54person. So I would like to have a phone
- 6:56call with you and I would like to have a meeting with you
- 6:59either in your office or we'll meet in the general place.
- 7:02But not everybody is open for that.
- 7:04So I meet people wherever they're comfortable.
- 7:07If I try to phone, but it looks like you're a WhatsApp person,
- 7:11we will continue on WhatsApp. If I try WhatsApp, you're
- 7:16ignoring what you respond on Instagram, then we will continue
- 7:19on Instagram chat. So it all depends, but we have
- 7:22to keep it multimodal. So it's not about what we
- 7:25prefer. It is what about what it's about
- 7:28what the contact or the potential customer prefers.
- 7:32Now some of you might think this is weird.
- 7:35Maybe I'm being unnecessarily like I'm just manufacturing
- 7:38stuff, but I'm not. Let me give you a real life
- 7:40example. There's a certain influencer
- 7:44that we did some work together. I can't remember her first name,
- 7:47but her surname is Ida Hosa. And we were both resource people
- 7:53at the Coca-Cola events where we spoke about artificial
- 7:56intelligence and how that can improve your career choices,
- 7:59improve help you advancing your career and in your business.
- 8:03So for Madam Ida Hosa, I have a phone number, but she doesn't
- 8:10pick calls. Well, at least she doesn't pick
- 8:12my calls. She doesn't respond to my
- 8:14WhatsApp messages. But if I wake up at night at
- 8:182:54 AM and I send her an Instagram message, let's say,
- 8:24you know, I woke up to go and use the toilet and then I
- 8:26finish, I send a message at 2:54.
- 8:29By the time I wash my hands and I get back to bed and let's say
- 8:32the time is now, you know, 256, she's responded.
- 8:35And I feel that kind of odd, you know, but that's just how some
- 8:38people are. Some people prefer what they
- 8:41prefer. There's some people who they
- 8:43e-mail people call them a million times, don't answer
- 8:46what's up, don't answer. Go to their house, they won't
- 8:49open, but send e-mail at 12 O1. They will respond at 12 O 5.
- 8:54So have a multimodal approach, meet people where they are
- 8:58comfortable. Now if I'm going to look at
- 9:03things in this case now because this person is not picking up
- 9:07the phone and they're sending a text message asking for the
- 9:09price, does that mean we should just give them a price?
- 9:14Now there are two responses or rather 2 approaches that we can
- 9:16look at. The first response and of some
- 9:21of you might find it tiring, but this is the reason why I say
- 9:24that we should all have Bluetooth keyboards attached to
- 9:28our phone. Because trying to engage in a
- 9:33text conversation with someone using your thumbs is going to be
- 9:36very stressful and it is hard to send text messages from your
- 9:40computer. Except if you're using a Mac and
- 9:43the Mac has been hooked up to your computer or if you're using
- 9:48an Android phone and you have a Google Chromebook, then you can
- 9:52send text messages from your computer other people who don't
- 9:55have these options available. Thus, you don't have a Google
- 9:59Chromebook or you don't have an Apple Mac, then the next best
- 10:04thing actually is just to get a Bluetooth keyboard connected to
- 10:06your phone so you can have text conversations.
- 10:09So in this case, the person says give me a price.
- 10:11Approach number one is text conversation.
- 10:14Just know that you have this conversation, but you will have
- 10:17it by text and you will have to follow certain guidelines to
- 10:20make sure that you're having an effective text conversation
- 10:23because you're not everybody who knows how to text, how to have a
- 10:26conversation effectively over text.
- 10:29Then another approach you can do is to send over a range of
- 10:33prices by text, but then use that to try and book an
- 10:38appointment for a phone conversation or an office visit
- 10:41or whatever. So let me repeat, these are the
- 10:432 approaches #1 continue the text, the person seems to like
- 10:48text and continue the text, text they go.
- 10:52But you have to follow certain principles to make sure that
- 10:54this text conversation is effective.
- 10:56Then option number 2 is you text a range of prices and then use
- 11:01that to try and book an appointment for a phone call,
- 11:04for a Zoom call for an office visit or whatever.
- 11:07So let's look at text conversation.
- 11:09In this case, you can send a text message back saying good
- 11:12morning, Sir. I tried called early.
- 11:15I tried calling earlier. Couldn't get through to you.
- 11:18Yes, I would love to give you the text, the cost implications
- 11:22you've asked for, but I need more details so that I can give
- 11:25you an accurate cost. Will you be running air
- 11:29conditioners in all three bedrooms?
- 11:31Full stop. And then you send.
- 11:34Now, the reason why I'm using this as one example is this.
- 11:38There are some sales people who would try and front load all the
- 11:41questions into one text message. That is bad, that is wrong.
- 11:44You're overwhelming the person if you respond and say good
- 11:47morning, Sir. I tried calling earlier,
- 11:49couldn't get through to you. I want to give you the cost
- 11:51implications, but we still need more information for an accurate
- 11:54cost. Can you please supply answers to
- 11:56the following questions? Number one, your location #2 how
- 12:01many? AC #3 how many.
- 12:03Fridge #4 how many computer #5 how many TV?
- 12:08Number six, how many this. You can see that it's too much.
- 12:12You're overwhelming the customer.
- 12:15When it comes to text conversations, whether on
- 12:17WhatsApp or on SMS, it's a good principle to limit yourself to
- 12:22one question only per text. Do not send somebody a text.
- 12:27You're trying to move the conversation along and you're
- 12:29asking them 5-6 questions. Which one will they answer?
- 12:33When you're talking to somebody face to face, it's OK.
- 12:36It's still not the best, but it's OK because at least you're
- 12:39face to face and somebody can kind of gauge by looking which
- 12:43one you are more interested in getting an answer to.
- 12:46So when it comes to text conversations, one question
- 12:49only. And remember this is a text
- 12:53conversation. That means you will be texting
- 12:55back and forth and the text will be plenty.
- 12:59I am sorry, but as a salesperson, this is just the
- 13:02nature of the job. These are just some of the
- 13:05things that we do to be able to avoid the lifestyle that we
- 13:09have, which is the reason why I say if you have a MacBook and
- 13:13use an iPhone, take your iPhone, connect it to your MacBook.
- 13:17You'll be able to send iMessage on your MacBook that way.
- 13:20So you don't have to pick up your phone and use your thumbs.
- 13:23If you have an Android phone, then hook up your Android phone
- 13:28to your Google Chromebook. No matter the make of the
- 13:31Chromebook, whether it is Lenovo or HP or whatever, so long as
- 13:35it's Google Chromebook and your phone is connected to the
- 13:38Internet, you'll be able to connect your phone to your
- 13:42computer so that you can send text messages from your
- 13:45computer. That way you don't have to be
- 13:47fiddling using your thumbs. If neither option is available
- 13:50to you, then please just go and buy a Bluetooth keyboard.
- 13:54Unfortunately, with the economy, things have become more
- 13:57expensive. I bought mine at the time, my
- 14:00first one at the time when Bluetooth keyboards are 5K.
- 14:03So I don't know whether it's going to be 30K or 40K or 50K.
- 14:08But it's something you ought to invest in because to be honest,
- 14:11having text conversations by using your thumb and typing,
- 14:15typing back and forth is tiresome.
- 14:18And since I've been in this business or any of my
- 14:20businesses, I have only met one person who is very comfortable
- 14:24typing with thumbs. And she types with her thumbs
- 14:26every day. In fact, she wrote her
- 14:30university thesis for her master's program on her phone
- 14:33using nothing but her thumbs. And for her, I will say I carry
- 14:37ash for her, but I'm not down for that kind of struggle.
- 14:40So those are the options. So now back to the example that
- 14:44I gave. Well, we're going to limit it to
- 14:46one question at a time. The first text message is going
- 14:48to be good morning, Sir. I tried calling earlier,
- 14:51couldn't get in touch with you. I would love to give you the
- 14:53cost implications just like you requested, but I will need some
- 14:56more details for an accurate cost.
- 14:58Are you going to be running air conditioners in all three
- 15:00bedrooms? And then the customer will
- 15:02reply, well, the AC will run in my own room and Madam's room,
- 15:07but we don't have to run it all the time in the children's room.
- 15:11Then you now respond with another question.
- 15:14OK, that's fine. I've made a note of that.
- 15:17What about other utilities that you have at home?
- 15:21How many fridges do you people have in the house?
- 15:24Question mark? That is only one question.
- 15:26And then he'll respond and you see that is how you continue
- 15:28with the question. Like that, like that and like
- 15:32that. So that's option one, text
- 15:34conversation. Now option 2 would be to send a
- 15:38text, give a range of figures, and then try and secure an
- 15:42appointment. So the text message will now be
- 15:45something like this. Good morning, Sir.
- 15:48Tried calling earlier, couldn't get in touch with you.
- 15:51I'd love to give the cost implications, but in our
- 15:54experience, bungalows of that size to power them up for 24
- 15:59hours, power could be anything between 12 million and 8
- 16:05million. But either way, I would need to
- 16:07know some more about your property.
- 16:10Would you be open to a phone conversation or can I come see
- 16:14you in the office so that we can talk about this?
- 16:16And then you send a text message and then you see, now in this
- 16:21case, I'm not going to recommend which is best, but you can see
- 16:24that there are options for when you want to have a phone call.
- 16:29A phone call is the best thing to do because in this case,
- 16:32actually a phone call is the best thing to do because I
- 16:35really think it's frustrating to be asking question after
- 16:37question. How many fridge, how many
- 16:39freezer, how many days, how many that you know over text.
- 16:42But you know, it's not about me, it's about the other person.
- 16:45But we have to be flexible. We have to be multimodal, meet
- 16:48the people where they are comfortable.
- 16:50So option number one is text conversation.
- 16:54Limit yourself to only one question per text.
- 16:58Then option number 2 is send a text message with a range.
- 17:02But then the goal is you're trying to fix an appointment for
- 17:04when the person is free so that the person will have a phone
- 17:08call with you. So in summary, for this
- 17:12particular situation, those are some of the options of what to
- 17:15do when your customer know the peak call.
- 17:17But either way, just know, like I tell the people that I'm
- 17:21currently training in the solar company, just know that no
- 17:24matter what the situation is, there is a solution.
- 17:29It doesn't mean it's going to be 100% effective, but just know
- 17:34that every single problem has a solution.
- 17:36With enough time, with enough thinking power, we can sit down,
- 17:40we can brainstorm solutions and we can come up with solutions
- 17:44that are going to help us move the sale and move our businesses
- 17:47and move our careers forward one step at a time.
- 17:51So that's it and that's all. Remember, if you'd love to
- 17:55connect, you can call SMS or WhatsApp me on 08064662140.
- 18:02Thank you for your time and attention.
- 18:04I'll catch you next time. Same place in your headphones or
- 18:07in your speakers.