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Episode 75 - With Ollie McFarlane · Tom's Hirschsprung's Podcast

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Tom's Hirshprun's Podcast, where I provide
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Speaker 1: a look into the remarkable experiences of the most inspiring
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Speaker 1: people around Hirshprung's disease and sports. Hello and welcome to
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Speaker 1: episode seventy five of Tom's Hirsprungs Podcast. I am delighted
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Speaker 1: to be joined by actor, personal trainer and big friendly
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Speaker 1: chap Olie McFarlane. Ollie, welcome you, Tom. How are we going?
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Speaker 1: I'm absolutely brilliant. How are you? Yeah? Really, well mate,
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Speaker 1: I'm I'm in the gym right now. So if you're
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Speaker 1: watching this, see myney to your background. Guess what gym
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Speaker 1: I mean? Yes, yes, kid, anybody who's been to a
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Speaker 1: gym can probably tell you other gyms are available for
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Speaker 1: being plaid on. It's huge, yep, but wow it doesn't matter.
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Speaker 1: Well again, welcome, Welcome to the podcast. And again, one
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Speaker 1: thing I forgot to mention the intro. You do have hirshprungs,
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Speaker 1: so that's why you're here. You don't just here it
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Speaker 1: just you know, for any reason. Yeah, yeah, I'm just
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Speaker 1: here for the bands. Really in the day, No, I
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Speaker 1: I do have is it is I'm not sure if
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Speaker 1: still I have it like or have I had it
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Speaker 1: and I'm not well fen cured, I would say no
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Speaker 1: because to me, we had a bit. You know, whether
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Speaker 1: you've got long segment, whether you've got short segment, whatever,
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Speaker 1: we had a bit that wasn't working that was then
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Speaker 1: taken out. So we don't get that back as Trulian
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Speaker 1: Dale's else, don't just start go over cool if it
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Speaker 1: is not anyway, that's if anyone has you know, seven
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Speaker 1: million quid invested that research, that'll be great. Yeah, also
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Speaker 1: just regrow around test back Joe. Yeah, okay, so I
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Speaker 1: have HERSTPRNS then that's cool, Okay, n night. Yeah, I've
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Speaker 1: got herd bros. My name is Olie and I have
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Speaker 1: host bruns. The AA meeting goes well yeah, yeah, got
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Speaker 1: hersprus fantastic. So with that in mind, would you like
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Speaker 1: to kind of take us from the from the beginning. Obviously,
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Speaker 1: we we've had to when we tell our stories, we
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Speaker 1: we have to ask our parents because we were too
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Speaker 1: young to remember what was going on. So when you
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Speaker 1: spoke to your parents, what did they what did they
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Speaker 1: say to you? Yeah? Fat so this is I mean,
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Speaker 1: this is something we've spoken about before time. But like
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Speaker 1: the weird thing about her spruns is it's like waking
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Speaker 1: up after an earthquake because you kind of, ah, all
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Speaker 1: this stuff has happened, but you have no memory of
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Speaker 1: the thing that happened to sell and you you just
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Speaker 1: kind of wander through this earthquake zone, going, oh, that's
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Speaker 1: like that because of the the and you're kind of
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Speaker 1: figuring out in retrospect what an earthquake is, if that
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Speaker 1: makes sense. So you so you have you have the
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Speaker 1: effects of it, but you don't really know what it is.
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Speaker 1: And so yeah, so I was I was born just
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Speaker 1: like everyone else and knew they noticed it not yeah, yeah,
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Speaker 1: well yeah it was and then it was good for
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Speaker 1: about I don't know, I think like twelve hours or
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Speaker 1: something less than that, even basically from what I can
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Speaker 1: from what I picked up from my parents and things
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Speaker 1: like that. Basically I was born and they said there
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Speaker 1: and there's someone wrong with his baby and started being sick.
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Speaker 1: But and all, now that's got a technical name. I
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Speaker 1: was being sick with I'm no good with technical name.
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Speaker 1: And basically they went, ooh, something's wrong, and so they
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Speaker 1: whisked me off in an ambulance pretty scene after I
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Speaker 1: was born. And I mean the tragic side of that
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Speaker 1: is like my mum wasn't allowed to come with me,
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Speaker 1: which I don't know if there are any mums out there,
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Speaker 1: but nicky your newborn child, or about just give a
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Speaker 1: birth mother. It's not a wise move. Anyway, I was.
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Speaker 1: I was whisked off and Mum had to stay behind
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Speaker 1: at that hospital, and then I'm not sure, so I
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Speaker 1: know I had a course to me bag at some point,
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Speaker 1: and my dad talks about having to stick this this
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Speaker 1: kind of adhesive bag on me, which, of course in
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Speaker 1: the nineties they didn't have, you know, baby sizes, they
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Speaker 1: just had adult size. So I had this plaptic bag
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Speaker 1: kind of going up from a pors down it and
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Speaker 1: it would just kind of inflate every now and again
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Speaker 1: like that and then settle back down again again. I'm
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Speaker 1: sure that's got technical name, but I don't know. Then
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Speaker 1: they did some exploratory stuff and they cut me open
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Speaker 1: a few times, and I now have two very icing,
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Speaker 1: e very cool long stars going across my belly, one
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Speaker 1: down and kind of down and the hip which I
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Speaker 1: think is really calt and then one just below my
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Speaker 1: rib cage as well, so I get one down the middle.
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Speaker 1: I'll have as a back up six pack permanently basically,
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Speaker 1: which you know is the dream. So there we go.
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Speaker 1: Maybe my job a lot easier. So if anyone just
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Speaker 1: wants to cut you open, then yeah, I feel high.
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Speaker 1: Its better. Yeah, I know that it's a Reddit train.
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Speaker 1: I don't want to go down, but yeah, some weird
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Speaker 1: anyway ftastic. So yeah, so that was kind of the beginning.
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Speaker 1: So you have, you have your bag? When are you then?
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Speaker 1: I guess as a child aware I've been diagnosed. You
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Speaker 1: mentioned about sort of being in an earthquake, and I
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Speaker 1: think there's a lot of people with Hirschbrung's who can
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Speaker 1: relate to that because you then you've suddenly you know,
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Speaker 1: you're told, oh you've got this thing and it's quite rare. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: can you sort of what's your earliest memory of that?
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Speaker 1: This so great question. I it would be a couple
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Speaker 1: of things. It would do you know what it would be.
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Speaker 1: It would be kind of being in kindergarten or or
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Speaker 1: what do we call in this country reception reception and
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Speaker 1: just kind of poohing myself like not just I always
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Speaker 1: had battle trouble growing up, and I always was like
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Speaker 1: wetting myself and pulling myself more than everyone else, and
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Speaker 1: kind of people knew me for that. In my class.
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Speaker 1: I grew up in this amazing school, which was like,
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Speaker 1: it was incredible. I grew up overseas, so I grew
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Speaker 1: up in East Africa. I was born in Belflast and
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Speaker 1: then grew up in East Africa. In the school I
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Speaker 1: was that was incredible and they were really accommodating and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff. Back. I don't know when I became
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Speaker 1: aware that I had her sprungs, but I knew that
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Speaker 1: there was some link between the scars on my tummy
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Speaker 1: and my bowel trouble. And I would go through phase
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Speaker 1: of like constipation and the diarrhea and stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: and we were always on that. I was always trying
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Speaker 1: out different medicines and things to kind of ease it.
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Speaker 1: We looked at my diet for a little while. There's
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Speaker 1: a time where I wasn't allowed cheese, which was a
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Speaker 1: real shame, and of course that all the classmates were like, oh,
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Speaker 1: look at me and cheese and cuttle cheese, and I
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Speaker 1: was like, yeah, leave me alone and all that jazz.
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Speaker 1: So it was kind of that. There was not a
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Speaker 1: time that I didn't know something was up. I didn't
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Speaker 1: know much about her sprungs or what her sprungs was
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Speaker 1: or meant, or I thought for a while i'd had
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Speaker 1: a in testine transplant. I remember kind of thinking that
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Speaker 1: was something that had happened to me. And again, nobody
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Speaker 1: told me that. I just thought, oh, maybe it's this,
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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And I'm sure my
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Speaker 1: parents would have said, oh, this s This disease is
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Speaker 1: called hirst Bruns and it's why you are the way
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Speaker 1: you are. Only but you know, I'm thinking, I'm poor,
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Speaker 1: I want to climb a tree. So you know, it's
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Speaker 1: not it's not like I don't know, is the honest answer.
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Speaker 1: In fact, you know, in fact, it's only been since
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Speaker 1: like discovering your podcast, listening to your podcast, all that
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Speaker 1: kind of stuff, I've really begun. I guess the education
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Speaker 1: process of what it is that's happened. I know that
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Speaker 1: like the nerves didn't work. My dad's always described it
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Speaker 1: to me as like the nerves along a part of
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Speaker 1: your intestine didn't work, so they needed to chop that
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Speaker 1: day out and so back together. Cool that that does
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Speaker 1: on an intellectual level, I'm super happy. Now, great, I
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Speaker 1: know what happened. But then but yeah, that's kind of
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Speaker 1: the long winded answered that question. Yeah, that's cool. And
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about this as I was sort of
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Speaker 1: doing my prep to do to do this interview, and
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Speaker 1: I was thinking about because we had a chat beforehand,
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Speaker 1: with a chat like last week or so, two weeks ago,
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Speaker 1: and I came away from that thinking, you very much
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Speaker 1: in terms of the thoughts around Hirshbrungs remind me of
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Speaker 1: me fifteen months ago, having never met anyone with Hirshbrungs,
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Speaker 1: knowing that you have it, but not really knowing. You know,
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Speaker 1: if you showed the word ganglion cells, I'd be like,
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Speaker 1: what you know? Yeah, exactly. And it's kind of and that,
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Speaker 1: I mean, that's kind of why I started the podcast really,
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Speaker 1: but it's it's trying to educate myself more than you know,
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Speaker 1: trying to educate everybody else as well. Yeah, and actually,
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Speaker 1: what is this and what do I have? And knowing
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Speaker 1: a bit more about about yourself, I guess I guess
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Speaker 1: that that that next question would tend to be at
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Speaker 1: what point did you want to know more? Because there
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Speaker 1: are a lot of people out there who are very
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Speaker 1: much like Okay, I have Heirsprungs, but I don't really
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Speaker 1: want to know my story. I don't really want to
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Speaker 1: know you know too much about it? Yeah, good question.
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Speaker 1: I think I'm I'm really happy with the bite sized version.
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Speaker 1: I If we go back to our analogy about the earthquake, right,
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Speaker 1: there are some people like, you know, whould be a necesinary,
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Speaker 1: go what is an earthquake? Why does that happen? What's
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Speaker 1: tectonic blake? What's the movement? I'm more like, all right, okay, school,
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Speaker 1: there's been an earthquake. We need to find somewhere to
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Speaker 1: lit right, you know, we need some shelter, we need
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Speaker 1: some food, we need some running water, all that kind
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Speaker 1: of stuff, and so what my I've just been really
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Speaker 1: pleased with, like learning how to deal with what I've
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Speaker 1: got too much kind of problem. I'm not not I've
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Speaker 1: not been too I'm not really bothered about what hert
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Speaker 1: Sprungs is in the sense that like, I'm just going
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Speaker 1: to crack on with what I've got, do you know
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Speaker 1: what i mean? It's really interesting and I'm loving learning
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Speaker 1: about that, and it's like, wow, this is cool. And
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Speaker 1: I remember when you reached out and all that kind
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Speaker 1: of stuff. I was like, oh my goodness. Other people
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Speaker 1: have this, and we'll talk about that later on, because
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Speaker 1: I'm sure people listening to this will resound with this.
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Speaker 1: But you just don't really believe that other people have it.
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Speaker 1: And that's not because you're in denial or anything. You've
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Speaker 1: just never met anybody. You've never met anybody with it.
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Speaker 1: You've never had to top off with someone and they've
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Speaker 1: also got scars, and you're like, oh my good no,
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Speaker 1: what whoa you know? That doesn't happen. It's not like
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Speaker 1: you meet someone with blonde hair like you see them everywhere.
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Speaker 1: But even if you have coming to contact with people
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Speaker 1: who have it, it's not something that comes up unless
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Speaker 1: it has to, you know what I mean. I remember
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Speaker 1: like in school, you'd be changing to go swimming or whatever,
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Speaker 1: and everyone would say, oh, what your score is? But
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Speaker 1: that's because you've got your top off and you look
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Speaker 1: different to everybody else and blah blah. But that doesn't.
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Speaker 1: That happened less and less and less as you get right,
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Speaker 1: So you just don't ever meet anybody with it. And
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Speaker 1: so for me, I'm always really happy explaining people like
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Speaker 1: to bite sized version, because you know, if you're there
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Speaker 1: in the change moment school of people going what happens
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Speaker 1: to you And you're saying, well, let me tell you
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Speaker 1: about ganglion cell you know, it's it doesn't like it's
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Speaker 1: not I'm just gonna reduce it down to the bite
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Speaker 1: sized version. Oh, my intestine didn't really work when I
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Speaker 1: was a kid. They had to chop out a bit,
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Speaker 1: sew it up. Let's go swim me. You know. That's
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Speaker 1: kind of how I've always dolt want it in my head?
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Speaker 1: Really yeah, yeah, no, that's absolutely right as well. I mean, like, again,
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Speaker 1: what do you do in your you know, eight nine
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Speaker 1: to ten? Yeah, somebody says, yeah, what the hell's that?
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Speaker 1: You know? What are you supposed to say? You know?
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Speaker 1: And also, I mean, how many eight nine ten year
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Speaker 1: olds actually know you know, about Hirsprungs and ganglion and
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Speaker 1: the various types and what even type of hirsprungs you have,
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Speaker 1: Because we've mentioned before that when we both knew about Hirshbrungs,
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Speaker 1: we both thought, well, there's one type of Hirschbrungs. It's
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Speaker 1: only after speaking to other people they've then actually thought,
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Speaker 1: oh I should there's five different types, and there's different
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Speaker 1: segments that are affected, and long segment and short segment
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Speaker 1: and all sorts, but you just think as a kid,
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Speaker 1: I've got hirshprungs. Yeah, and that's and that's what you
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Speaker 1: kind of I guess that's why, well you kind of think,
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Speaker 1: really yeah, and that is when you do think about it,
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Speaker 1: Like I have spent not long at all of my
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Speaker 1: life thinking about my condition or anything like that really,
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Speaker 1: because you're just kind of you're dealing with all the
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Speaker 1: things that normal people are dealing with, so you don't
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Speaker 1: really have time to think about what kind of heirstplanes
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Speaker 1: do I have. It's not something that you think about
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Speaker 1: on the day to day and that you know, for me,
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Speaker 1: that's been actually something that's kind of really great about
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Speaker 1: having hirsprungs, and at least my type of herstprungs. I
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Speaker 1: haven't had to think about it loads. There's been a
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Speaker 1: few bits and bobs here and there original get into,
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Speaker 1: but again, those become normal and it's really easy to
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Speaker 1: normalize at least diprage of it. And Yeah, I greup
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Speaker 1: around a lot of Americans and they had a lot
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Speaker 1: of kind of don't let anything stop you go and
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Speaker 1: live with dreams, overcome everything, and so I think that's
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Speaker 1: kind of how I've internalized that I've got this thing,
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Speaker 1: but that shouldn't really hold me back from doing anything
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Speaker 1: that I want to do, regardless of the impacts it
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Speaker 1: has day to day. Yeah. No, you're absolutely right, And
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Speaker 1: that's why I really wanted you on this show because
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Speaker 1: she's like, you're absolutely perfect for what everything this podcast
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Speaker 1: is about. Because that's my philosophy as well. You know,
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Speaker 1: I want to show people that, yeah, okay, you might
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Speaker 1: have to have you know, surgeries, and you might have
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Speaker 1: a difficult start here and there, and there might be
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Speaker 1: some issues along the way, but there's so many people
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Speaker 1: out there who do amazing things whilst having these conditions.
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Speaker 1: Is not to say that they don't go through issues
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Speaker 1: here and there. Haven't let it stop them, and it
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Speaker 1: hasn't let it stop you either. I mean, I know
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Speaker 1: in the intro we said you are an actor and
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Speaker 1: personal trainer, so very busy boy. But so with that
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Speaker 1: in mind, and now we're jumping around a little bit
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Speaker 1: in terms of when did the acting bug buy you?
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Speaker 1: Oh dude, I'm a middle child, so like straight away,
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Speaker 1: I'm just constantly seeking attention and just it was that
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Speaker 1: thing of I've got an older brother, but a younger
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Speaker 1: brother how can I stand out? And you know it
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Speaker 1: is if you know, older brother works in construction, younger
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Speaker 1: brother is a teacher, like very kind of let like jobs.
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I'm going I want to
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Speaker 1: express myself artistically and it's so it's it's I mean,
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Speaker 1: I'll put it down in middle child. And also, and
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Speaker 1: I think I think this is something to do with
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Speaker 1: it having hers bruns and kind of surviving that whole
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Speaker 1: deal as a child, I may be internalized that as
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Speaker 1: I am, I like and special ends up because of
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Speaker 1: I've been born five minutes and I've already overcome something,
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Speaker 1: do you know what I mean? And I think I
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Speaker 1: had I think, yeah, due to the nature of my
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Speaker 1: birth and kind of the chaos around it. Growing up
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Speaker 1: with the belief that you're special. And I'm not saying
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Speaker 1: that actors are acting is special and you know it's not,
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Speaker 1: but just kind of that thing of like I deserve
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Speaker 1: to be the center of attention. Now like I don't
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Speaker 1: think that much anymore, but certainly growing up I certainly
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Speaker 1: did where I was like I am I'm the chosen one,
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Speaker 1: you know, because I've survived, you know, And uh, I
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Speaker 1: think there is power in that right, I mean you
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Speaker 1: do like take stock of that, like, oh no, dude,
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Speaker 1: I survived, man, you know, like I'm still here and
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Speaker 1: I you know, I wasn't even aware of it, so
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Speaker 1: I could do all these amazing things. That's, you know,
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Speaker 1: certainly something i'd say to, you know, if you're ten
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Speaker 1: listening to this Hoarst podcast, like you could freaking do it, man,
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Speaker 1: because you've already done so much. I mean, you know,
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Speaker 1: since growing up and being in the real world and
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Speaker 1: all that stuff, my ego has, right, you've been like
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Speaker 1: taken down the several pigs, and that is totally right,
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Speaker 1: But you also have this thing of like, yeah, you
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Speaker 1: just I just sort of grew up believing I was
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Speaker 1: special mhm. And people for some reason, and I've got
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Speaker 1: a gripe about this now, but for some reason, they
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Speaker 1: think actors are special and I am. I was so
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Speaker 1: as a kid, I was like, I'll do that because
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Speaker 1: I'm special, right, you know. So there was that, and
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Speaker 1: then you know, I just found I really enjoyed it
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Speaker 1: and I was good at it. So that's why I
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Speaker 1: stuck at it, and I'm still sticking at it even
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Speaker 1: in a kind of artistic environment, which is light nails
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Speaker 1: on a chalkboard at the moment. But yeah, that's that's
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Speaker 1: why basically fantastic. I mean that there are plenty of
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Speaker 1: actors that I've been interviewed from this podcast who would
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Speaker 1: very much agree that actors are special. So they'll they'll
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Speaker 1: agree with you on that that that you're all very
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Speaker 1: specially true, were very special, and we should be wrapped
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Speaker 1: in bubble rapp and sent to our trailers and give
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Speaker 1: them therapists. Yeah, and speaking of trailers as well, you
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Speaker 1: are not just an actor, you are also a personal
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Speaker 1: trainer as well. I see. I guess the two can
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Speaker 1: sort of come a hand in hand big time guessing
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Speaker 1: personal training. So did they sort of fall together or
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Speaker 1: did you think, right, I really want to do this
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Speaker 1: now alongside the acting. Yeah, so there's a couple of
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Speaker 1: strands to this. So I've always been really interested in
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Speaker 1: Fitney's start of things. My brother swam competitively sort of
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Speaker 1: at an international level. I was also part of the
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Speaker 1: swimming team, but I hated women and I did apply
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Speaker 1: itself whatever whatever. So when we came back to this
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Speaker 1: country in twenty ten, I was like, I'm going to
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Speaker 1: play rugby. You know, it's really keen on the sport thing,
18:55
Speaker 1: the athletic thing, and I just kind of wanted to
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Speaker 1: be the best that everything's sport now, I wasn't important
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Speaker 1: for me that sual I breathe wasn't. I was kind
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Speaker 1: of lots of effort, but no binesse skill or anything
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Speaker 1: like that. And then when I got into UNI and
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Speaker 1: I was doing acting course I've got, I got into
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Speaker 1: area work, so flying silk peas, war work stuff like that,
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Speaker 1: which was really really cool because that required a lot
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Speaker 1: of poor strength and I was like, Okay, this is
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Speaker 1: like maybe an area that it won't be. You know,
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Speaker 1: I didn't know what my limits were with that, but
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Speaker 1: I just sort of found that I loved it and
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Speaker 1: could fly in the air, and you know, that felt awesome.
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Speaker 1: So I've always been really interested in the kind of
19:32
Speaker 1: fiscal side of things. Got really into physical performance physically,
19:35
Speaker 1: as are all does. I'm also this is important. I'm six,
19:39
Speaker 1: I'm six five, and that's not me bragging. I'm just
19:41
Speaker 1: a very physical presence in a room by nature of
19:46
Speaker 1: you know, my birth, my mum's maiden name's Tower. It's
19:48
Speaker 1: a running joke. You know, it's all good, It's all good,
19:51
Speaker 1: fun and so yeah, the kind of physicality of performance,
19:58
Speaker 1: the physicality of sport I got really into. And then
20:01
Speaker 1: when I graduated to go into the graduate with an
20:05
Speaker 1: acting debris went it to the business again. I had
20:10
Speaker 1: this kind of everyone thinks the industry is so tough,
20:13
Speaker 1: but I'm going to do it and I'm going to
20:14
Speaker 1: overcome it, and I'm going to be that word special
20:17
Speaker 1: again and people have got to recognize my talent. I'm
20:20
Speaker 1: gonna be whishtop and for Holliwood and that will be
20:21
Speaker 1: me making millions for the rest of my life. Now.
20:23
Speaker 1: Of course, of real life is not always like that.
20:26
Speaker 1: It's kind of like that Wat's in a blue moon
20:29
Speaker 1: if you were there in the right in the right time.
20:32
Speaker 1: So the reality of kind of growing and acting profile,
20:39
Speaker 1: which takes a long time because any individual project takes
20:46
Speaker 1: a long time to develop. For example, you'll shoot a
20:50
Speaker 1: movie and then two years later it will come and
20:54
Speaker 1: by then you're at a completely different stage place or
20:57
Speaker 1: like stuff. What happens with that movie is out of
21:01
Speaker 1: your control completely, So you don't know who's watching it,
21:04
Speaker 1: you don't know who is interested in it, you don't
21:07
Speaker 1: know if they're looking at you, whatever, whatever. So it's
21:10
Speaker 1: sort of sort of think, oh, this acting thing is
21:11
Speaker 1: going to take time, and you know, I'm married now
21:14
Speaker 1: I need to think about where we're going to live
21:17
Speaker 1: the rest of our lives, what we're going to do,
21:18
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. So but well, I'm still
21:20
Speaker 1: really into the sport thing, you know, when I've been
21:22
Speaker 1: going to the gym consistently for the years, really into it.
21:25
Speaker 1: So I decided to get qualified in personal training and
21:31
Speaker 1: just kind of run that business and see how I went.
21:33
Speaker 1: Because of course I was doing the acting jobs of love,
21:35
Speaker 1: working in pubs and all that stuff and hospitality blah blah.
21:38
Speaker 1: It's man, this is a lot of time for not
21:41
Speaker 1: a lot of money, and I kind of hate it.
21:44
Speaker 1: I don't know if you know much about the great
21:45
Speaker 1: best public Tom, but they are something else. Let me
21:48
Speaker 1: tell you. We can so I think, yeah, definitely, So
21:52
Speaker 1: I thought I'll move on from this now. I did
21:54
Speaker 1: a load of really cool one jobs in that time.
21:56
Speaker 1: You know, I was a landscaper, tree sarch and and
22:02
Speaker 1: I was a career. I did all sorts of things,
22:04
Speaker 1: and I thought, let's just get into the personal training
22:06
Speaker 1: thing and build a business. So go into it. I'm
22:09
Speaker 1: a kind of niche is helping normal people do full stuff.
22:12
Speaker 1: Like one of my clients is in her sixties and
22:16
Speaker 1: she's running half marathons. Another one of my clients, it's
22:21
Speaker 1: just gotten like her first five pull ups and stuff
22:24
Speaker 1: like that, which is huge. So, you know, it's just
22:25
Speaker 1: like helping people do the cool things they've always wanted
22:30
Speaker 1: to do. I'm going to be working with someone who
22:32
Speaker 1: wants to get into like handstairs and stuff like that,
22:34
Speaker 1: and kind of the background in circus really helps with that.
22:37
Speaker 1: And so it's just it's a really interesting job and
22:40
Speaker 1: I really like it. And I also really liked PC
22:43
Speaker 1: thing because there's something I could run through my laptop
22:46
Speaker 1: while I was running around to you other decks as
22:47
Speaker 1: well and providing a good service remotely, and so works
22:53
Speaker 1: with the acting things. Didn't mean I had to give
22:54
Speaker 1: the acting thing up. It just meant that IKER do
22:59
Speaker 1: this as well and really enjoy it and really love it. No,
23:02
Speaker 1: that's sic that's yeah, absolutely, that sounds that sounds brilliant.
23:06
Speaker 1: And they're two very much as we used it before
23:08
Speaker 1: acting in personal training. They're both involved people and they
23:12
Speaker 1: very involved you know to a certain extent, especially the
23:15
Speaker 1: personal training helping people yeah, yes, that was that always
23:19
Speaker 1: a massive part of your sort of professional working life. Yeah, totally, totally,
23:26
Speaker 1: totally yeah. Uh, Like I said, I mean I grew
23:31
Speaker 1: up in the I grew up in the late nineties
23:34
Speaker 1: zared to two thousands, and back then we had things
23:38
Speaker 1: like the Millennium goals where we were gonna walk overously
23:41
Speaker 1: by twenty fifteen, and there was in the kind of
23:43
Speaker 1: economic boomer the nies will there seems to be a
23:46
Speaker 1: real global effort to do thays and solve problems and
23:51
Speaker 1: help people and all that stuff. And certainly where I
23:53
Speaker 1: was living in East Africa, you know, my parents were missionaries,
23:55
Speaker 1: so we were always that was always kind of in
23:59
Speaker 1: the in the zeitgeist of like you live your life
24:02
Speaker 1: for other people and help other people and all that stuff.
24:05
Speaker 1: I think that certainly rubbed off on me in the
24:08
Speaker 1: sense that like, yeah, dude, like there's a lot of
24:11
Speaker 1: people that need help and if you're in a position
24:13
Speaker 1: to help, which you should and if you can, and
24:18
Speaker 1: particularly with personal training, like there has been a kind
24:25
Speaker 1: of cultural narrative flown around, particularly when I was growing
24:27
Speaker 1: up in university and all that stuff, whereas like, you know,
24:30
Speaker 1: your body doesn't really matter. It's all about what's inside,
24:33
Speaker 1: and you know what's inside batteries and stuff like that,
24:37
Speaker 1: and that is a really important point sometimes. But we
24:40
Speaker 1: also spend all of our time in our bodies, right
24:44
Speaker 1: we spend Ope, there's a long going off at work.
24:47
Speaker 1: Don't worry about it. It's a it's a test. I
24:50
Speaker 1: hope other west the end of the s interview will
24:53
Speaker 1: be really interesting. And yeah, we live in our bodies
24:57
Speaker 1: all the time. And certainly, like from a Herd Spranks
24:59
Speaker 1: point of you, my heir Sprungs has affected my day
25:03
Speaker 1: to day life. It's affected my mood sometimes and maybe
25:09
Speaker 1: feel a certain way when I've even certain feeds. So
25:12
Speaker 1: my body really has an impact on who I am
25:14
Speaker 1: as a person. And also being like six or five,
25:17
Speaker 1: Like my physical presence in a room changes spains in
25:22
Speaker 1: that room, not for any better or worse way, it's
25:25
Speaker 1: just like it changes the dynamics symd of them. I
25:27
Speaker 1: mean we could go into kind of like staging in
25:30
Speaker 1: theater and stuff like that, where people stand and how
25:32
Speaker 1: people stand and what size they are changes things, and
25:36
Speaker 1: something like your body is a really important thing and
25:38
Speaker 1: it's an important thing to look after. I mean, we
25:40
Speaker 1: have so many metrics about physical health and helping out
25:43
Speaker 1: with mental health, emotional health and muscle mass health, regular hormones,
25:46
Speaker 1: things like that. So getting to that point about emotional health,
25:49
Speaker 1: it's all that stuff. So yeah, it's I don't know,
25:54
Speaker 1: you kind of wrap up here is like your body
25:56
Speaker 1: is really important. Take care of it because you will
25:58
Speaker 1: feel better as a person, you know. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, no,
26:03
Speaker 1: I think everybody can agree with that. I mean, because
26:07
Speaker 1: you work in sport as well, don't you. Yes, you
26:10
Speaker 1: tell me telling more about that. Yeah, So I worked
26:12
Speaker 1: as a pe teacher for a decade and now work
26:14
Speaker 1: from home doing sports development stuff. So I'm yeah, I'm
26:19
Speaker 1: heavily qualified in everything from well, cricket is my main thing,
26:23
Speaker 1: but cricket football, I've got dodgeball qualifications, cub boxing qualifications,
26:28
Speaker 1: really everything everything kickboxing, and I not that I could
26:33
Speaker 1: kickbox to save my life, but I'm technically qualified in
26:37
Speaker 1: it and can teach it. So so yeah, I'm I'm
26:40
Speaker 1: all about sport, physical exercise, health, well being, all of
26:46
Speaker 1: that stuff. Yeah, it's from coming back to the Hearst
26:50
Speaker 1: Bruns thing, like after taking care of my diet, I
26:57
Speaker 1: was always physically active, but certainly like looking at and
27:00
Speaker 1: being more detailed with my diet and looking after it.
27:02
Speaker 1: I just the world are different. The world are different
27:06
Speaker 1: from me. Now it's five years to Bill. When I
27:08
Speaker 1: wasn't the people was easy. Look at the end of
27:10
Speaker 1: the day, it's all the things your mum tells you
27:12
Speaker 1: to do e vegetables, don't you do us young food?
27:16
Speaker 1: Because like when we do that as for people like us,
27:20
Speaker 1: as like a much bigger effect than it would on
27:22
Speaker 1: your average day to day person who's smashing a piece
27:26
Speaker 1: and a kebab on a night out and feldn't find
27:28
Speaker 1: the mixedsheah, yeah, it was. It's always going to have
27:34
Speaker 1: some sort of effect on us at some point, some
27:37
Speaker 1: effects more than others. And I guess along that that line.
27:41
Speaker 1: And there was something we've discussed before, things like stomach
27:47
Speaker 1: cramps the we can we we we can really suffer from.
27:51
Speaker 1: As hirsh Brung's folk, I know you've got a couple
27:56
Speaker 1: of a couple of things you'd like to share so
27:58
Speaker 1: many stories, So do you want to start? Okay, right,
28:01
Speaker 1: here's on the level suppose people know this, there's a
28:05
Speaker 1: particular kind of stomach cramped which you'll be it's always
28:10
Speaker 1: in the most incomediate place. I was thinking about this
28:12
Speaker 1: as maybe even two times it's happened where I'm at
28:15
Speaker 1: home with a toilet right there. Okay, but this You'll
28:18
Speaker 1: be driving on the motorway, you'll be walking with your
28:23
Speaker 1: in laws, you'll be in a job interview, and suddenly
28:28
Speaker 1: this very intense pain in your lower abdomen, which feels
28:33
Speaker 1: like a gash chamber just kind of filling up, happens
28:39
Speaker 1: in your lower stomach, and you're like, I don't know
28:41
Speaker 1: if this is a fart. I don't know if this
28:44
Speaker 1: is a poo, but I'm sure as hell not going
28:46
Speaker 1: to just see if it's a fart, you know, And
28:50
Speaker 1: you'll just be like, ah, man, and you're looking at
28:53
Speaker 1: you the job interviewer guy, and you're trying to look
28:57
Speaker 1: as normal as possible, well being quice seview paid like
29:00
Speaker 1: it's not. It's not like ooh, it's a bit uncomfortable.
29:02
Speaker 1: It's like, oh man, I need five minutes and just this, dude,
29:09
Speaker 1: there's so much pressure on your butthole just to open up,
29:13
Speaker 1: and you've got to just squeeze that thing shut and
29:17
Speaker 1: just you know, hopefully the best. Always when I'm driving,
29:20
Speaker 1: it happens always when I'm driving and I've just gotten
29:23
Speaker 1: you're just gripping onto the steering wheel, searching desperately for
29:28
Speaker 1: a service station, praying that you get and it comes
29:32
Speaker 1: in surges. That's the things I mean. I don't know
29:34
Speaker 1: if this happens to you, but it comes in surges.
29:36
Speaker 1: So it goes on and then sometimes the line feels
29:39
Speaker 1: like it bubbles away and then it comes back on
29:41
Speaker 1: and you're just like counting seconds between surges, and you're
29:46
Speaker 1: seeing that service station mileage kind of ticked down from
29:50
Speaker 1: one mile to three quarters of a mile to half
29:52
Speaker 1: a mile to two hundred yards or whatever it is.
29:55
Speaker 1: And then you just run out the car, kicking children
29:59
Speaker 1: out the way, you know whatever, get into get into
30:03
Speaker 1: a cubicle. You can't go in that cubicle because that
30:06
Speaker 1: is disgusting. And then you look for another one and
30:09
Speaker 1: it's carnage. So I mean, it's I mean, that is
30:14
Speaker 1: what I said said. It doesn't really affect my day
30:15
Speaker 1: to day. That is when it does. So you get
30:17
Speaker 1: these kind of intense like surgeons, and then you get
30:21
Speaker 1: in the toilet and it is just a fart and
30:22
Speaker 1: you think, well, that was a lot of fuss over nothing.
30:24
Speaker 1: I could have done that in the car, but you know,
30:28
Speaker 1: can't take the chance, can't take a chance. You can't
30:31
Speaker 1: do it, You can't do it. I mean I specifically
30:33
Speaker 1: remember growing up and it was always like, all you
30:35
Speaker 1: take an expat of pants just in case, And that
30:38
Speaker 1: is what that is a that is a policy I've
30:41
Speaker 1: held to for most of the night just because just
30:45
Speaker 1: in case. But then of course the times we don't,
30:48
Speaker 1: it's bad And it is kind of a Sod's law
30:51
Speaker 1: thing that I'm a big believer in God's sense of
30:53
Speaker 1: human I think that's one of it. One of those Yeah,
30:59
Speaker 1: that is right. It it does go in and I
31:01
Speaker 1: don't know if anybody else, because it must be you
31:03
Speaker 1: can't just be message it, message it. You gotta message it.
31:06
Speaker 1: You gotta lose so and you also, the thing is
31:10
Speaker 1: people first funds, if this is the thing that isn't
31:12
Speaker 1: just your meta, they will know exactly the kind of
31:17
Speaker 1: pain and pressure that you're talking about, we're talking about,
31:20
Speaker 1: and how it just weirdly kind of disappears for a
31:22
Speaker 1: minute and then it'll come back and then just builds
31:24
Speaker 1: and builds and build and builds, and then it goes
31:25
Speaker 1: again and the builds and builds and builds, it goes
31:27
Speaker 1: again and you're just there, I mean, white knuckling the
31:30
Speaker 1: steering wheel, saving nice deep breaths, doing those like pregnancy
31:33
Speaker 1: breathing exercises to kind of get through it. It is
31:40
Speaker 1: probably the closest we will get to being in labor. Well,
31:44
Speaker 1: I think I think I think that, or either I
31:46
Speaker 1: think that about periods. Definitely. I remember several conversations with
31:50
Speaker 1: women with the light these stomach crams. You have no
31:52
Speaker 1: idea with easy ache, and you're like, you're right, I
31:54
Speaker 1: do have no idea, but I do sometimes get stomach cramps.
31:58
Speaker 1: I know that they're no fun. So yeah, I just like, oh,
32:03
Speaker 1: fair enough. But also I don't know how to get
32:06
Speaker 1: myself involved in this conversation. That'll be what kicks off
32:08
Speaker 1: in the cops, we tell you. Yeah, yeah, true, true.
32:12
Speaker 1: If anyone leaves some comments on YouTube, yuni sounds. Yeah. Oh,
32:15
Speaker 1: if there's any ladies who have her sprungs and career crams,
32:18
Speaker 1: I want to compare the two. Let us know if
32:21
Speaker 1: that will be that will be interesting on the pain scale.
32:24
Speaker 1: On the pain scale, yeah, definitely, let us know one
32:26
Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, I mean, I don't know if it's
32:29
Speaker 1: if it's just driving as well, or whether there's exercise induced,
32:34
Speaker 1: because there are times to me where I'm I'm about
32:36
Speaker 1: miles from home and I'm kind of running along and
32:40
Speaker 1: everything's going okay, and then you get those sort of
32:44
Speaker 1: again it's the waves. It's the waves that gets you,
32:46
Speaker 1: and it's and then suddenly you go from you know,
32:49
Speaker 1: a nice, gentle ten minute mile to then six minute
32:52
Speaker 1: miles and right right, okay, good apps, I don't care
32:56
Speaker 1: if my calves are on, I'm going to run as
32:59
Speaker 1: fast as And then you end.
33:01
Speaker 2: Up behind alike when you're on the motorway and there's
33:03
Speaker 2: a traffic world and just like right in front of you,
33:05
Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, I don't know if I can
33:07
Speaker 2: get away with this because you're just me stopping would
33:10
Speaker 2: be the worst thing in the world.
33:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, you think is it worth just you know, putting
33:14
Speaker 1: your foot down and hope is yeah, leaving with the judge. No,
33:20
Speaker 1: I'm I'm absolutely positive. Well, I really hope it's not
33:25
Speaker 1: just us too. That's it. I mean, this is something
33:30
Speaker 1: you put up recently about is it one in five
33:32
Speaker 1: thousand people have for us? That's that's the Yeah. I
33:36
Speaker 1: did some sort of really quick maths and yeah, just
33:40
Speaker 1: basically typed into Google how many people are in the world,
33:43
Speaker 1: and it says about eight point two billion. And so
33:47
Speaker 1: the general consensus from everywhere I've seen and everybody else
33:51
Speaker 1: spoken to is one in five thousand. So I just
33:54
Speaker 1: did that maths and comes out as one point six
33:59
Speaker 1: four million. Well, and I just wanted to see people's thoughts.
34:04
Speaker 1: I just wanted to see, you know, does do people
34:07
Speaker 1: believe that is that you underestimate overestimate. I had some
34:13
Speaker 1: doctors actually reach out to me, yeah, from Argentina, and
34:17
Speaker 1: they said they believe that it's more an underestimate. They
34:20
Speaker 1: think there's more, which I mean, it's it's it's just
34:24
Speaker 1: an interesting point because I mean I speak to quite
34:27
Speaker 1: a few. I mean, there aren't a lot of people
34:29
Speaker 1: like me and you who only have hirshprungs with the
34:33
Speaker 1: only people with hirsprungs in the family. But I speak
34:36
Speaker 1: to people who their dad has it, they have it,
34:39
Speaker 1: their son has it, or their daughter has it, and
34:41
Speaker 1: it I wouldnt say runs through the family. There has
34:45
Speaker 1: to be a genetic strand there somewhere. If you've got
34:51
Speaker 1: parents who've got it and children who've got it, and
34:53
Speaker 1: I just thought it was It's just an interesting thing
34:56
Speaker 1: to think about. Yeah, my granddad had Crohn's disease. I
35:00
Speaker 1: think one of the I mean again, like I knew
35:04
Speaker 1: when I was growing up, I knew I was different,
35:07
Speaker 1: Like I had these big, very massive stars running across
35:11
Speaker 1: my belly when nobody else did. I knew that was different.
35:13
Speaker 1: But my granddad like had a colostomy bag and I
35:17
Speaker 1: had heard that I used to have one of them,
35:19
Speaker 1: So I think that helped normalize it. On my head.
35:21
Speaker 1: I was like, Oh, people have these fund of digestion
35:23
Speaker 1: issues all the time, so that's cool. And I'm just
35:27
Speaker 1: the guy in the class with the stars on his belly,
35:31
Speaker 1: you know, Like that's all right, that's me, mate, no worries.
35:34
Speaker 1: And and interestingly, I was never really insecure about that,
35:40
Speaker 1: And I think that's credit to like my parents, in
35:41
Speaker 1: the school that I was in and all that stuff,
35:44
Speaker 1: and the friends I had to be axed. I never
35:49
Speaker 1: felt the only kind of time i'd you know, whenever
35:53
Speaker 1: I moved schools or whatever. And then you go to
35:56
Speaker 1: those pee change your groups that you take the top
35:58
Speaker 1: off you took like we go, you know, because you
36:01
Speaker 1: knew what was coming, but it was never like I
36:04
Speaker 1: never felt in barracked by it or I never felt insecure.
36:10
Speaker 1: But I mean on a practical level, like there's nothing
36:14
Speaker 1: I could do about it, you know what I mean,
36:16
Speaker 1: There's there's no I can't undo these scars. I can't
36:22
Speaker 1: get laser eye surgery the correct it. I can't chop
36:25
Speaker 1: off the wards for the mole or anything like that.
36:27
Speaker 1: I can't get a fat and to hide it like
36:30
Speaker 1: they just exist only they are parts of who I
36:33
Speaker 1: am as well as being something completely for it. Does
36:37
Speaker 1: that make sense? Yeah? Yeah, And I think there will
36:41
Speaker 1: be a lot of people listening to this who will Yeah.
36:43
Speaker 1: And again it doesn't necessarily have to be a hush
36:46
Speaker 1: brungs thing. I think it's more of a scar slash
36:50
Speaker 1: body confidence thing as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean
36:54
Speaker 1: it's really interesting. I mean, I I've always quite liked
37:01
Speaker 1: them being there in the sense that they've always meant
37:07
Speaker 1: the time distinct and I don't see that as a negative.
37:11
Speaker 1: Maybe going back to my plated eagle early on about
37:14
Speaker 1: me being special and all stuff, but I you know,
37:18
Speaker 1: you've always got a story to tell, and you've always
37:21
Speaker 1: got a I you know, this is what happened to me,
37:25
Speaker 1: and and I again it's I don't know. I don't
37:31
Speaker 1: really know how to talk to you about overcoming insecurity
37:34
Speaker 1: with body bumpets because I've not really had that problem
37:36
Speaker 1: with my stars. I've had problems with it elsewhere. Like
37:40
Speaker 1: I can tell you about the years as a teenager
37:42
Speaker 1: fretting over this model, you know what I mean, But
37:45
Speaker 1: like I never the stars were just like, oh, I've
37:50
Speaker 1: got two stars on my belly. It's quite cool. I
37:52
Speaker 1: mean I always I think being a boy as well
37:55
Speaker 1: like kind of associates the scars that that's kind of cool.
37:58
Speaker 1: You know, it hurts somewhere that you should see a
38:01
Speaker 1: lot of That was something I did about the school.
38:04
Speaker 1: I used to come over different stories because of what
38:06
Speaker 1: happens to you as well. I've got a tack, a
38:08
Speaker 1: goat or a shark or I got stabbed once and
38:11
Speaker 1: people will be like, no way, and you'll be like, no,
38:13
Speaker 1: it's joke. We've got suber. But it's fun, like it's
38:16
Speaker 1: kind of it's it's, ah, yeah, I've got something different,
38:18
Speaker 1: and I'm a mysterious man with a with a with
38:20
Speaker 1: a dark pats, you know, and you kind of get
38:23
Speaker 1: to bunny play that game a little bit and it's
38:27
Speaker 1: again it's I yeah, it's it's just kind of cool.
38:32
Speaker 1: I mean it was is it just going back to
38:36
Speaker 1: the personal training thing. Recently, I did a photo sheet,
38:38
Speaker 1: and what photo shoot is in the personal training kind
38:40
Speaker 1: of border building world is you get shredded. You'll have
38:42
Speaker 1: seeing him on social media. You get shraded down so
38:45
Speaker 1: that you have six pack and you look wrecked and
38:47
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff, and you get to photostaping
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Speaker 1: now full disposure. I did these for marketing reasons, being
38:53
Speaker 1: the personal trainer. My logic is, if you're coming to
38:57
Speaker 1: me personal training because you want to loose some wight.
38:59
Speaker 1: You want to see that I've got you. You want
39:01
Speaker 1: to see that I've had a six pack before, right,
39:04
Speaker 1: because you know that I can do right, even if
39:07
Speaker 1: that's not what you want to yourself. So it was
39:10
Speaker 1: all like, right, if you go to Mount Everest base camp,
39:12
Speaker 1: you want someone who's been to the top, do you
39:14
Speaker 1: know what I mean? You want you want to serve
39:15
Speaker 1: who's been to the top. So I was like, great, well,
39:18
Speaker 1: if I'm going to be a personal trainer, you put
39:19
Speaker 1: my money aroun my apple and actually do the steps
39:22
Speaker 1: and that I'll telegrah way, but like do it to
39:25
Speaker 1: the end degree. So I did these photos and I
39:30
Speaker 1: just for the life of me, couldn't get those two
39:31
Speaker 1: lower abs right. And the reason is because I've got
39:35
Speaker 1: a scar running through directly through the middle of one, right,
39:39
Speaker 1: So I had it was I had the top two abs,
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Speaker 1: the really clear outline of a six pack, but didn't
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Speaker 1: have the bottom two, And so what're created was quite
39:48
Speaker 1: a unique look and nobody else looks like that. And
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Speaker 1: I think looking at the market and thinking, you want
39:56
Speaker 1: to be like, what are he confident and whatever? Like
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Speaker 1: I'm doing it, man, you know, like it's all correct.
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Speaker 1: There's nothing I can do about these two scars. The
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Speaker 1: way my skin hangs on my belly is nothing to
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Speaker 1: do with me at all. But I can get into
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Speaker 1: this level of conditioning regardless and just have have a
40:17
Speaker 1: good time. Like I enjoyed that. I enjoyed doing that
40:20
Speaker 1: with my body and just like pushing my body to
40:22
Speaker 1: the pushing my body to the limit. To sound like
40:25
Speaker 1: PC for a minute, but like sounds very pt, very
40:28
Speaker 1: pt your results.
40:30
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, that core work, that core feel a bird.
40:34
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's totainly all that stuff, all that good stuff
40:36
Speaker 1: from the nineties, but like you could still do all
40:42
Speaker 1: the things and get all the benefits from doing that
40:45
Speaker 1: kind of thing, even when your body looks slightly different.
40:52
Speaker 1: Nobody ever looked at perhaps, say someone really proound, but
40:57
Speaker 1: then realized that only had the first half and on
40:58
Speaker 1: the second half, so we'll just do more of that. Campletely,
41:00
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, nobody ever looked at the guy
41:02
Speaker 1: with I don't know what other people notice about you.
41:07
Speaker 1: It is so different from what you notice about yourself,
41:12
Speaker 1: like remarkably remarkably different. And I could have pointed to
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Speaker 1: twelve different areas on my photoshoy world. I'm not happy
41:19
Speaker 1: without not happy without that. But when you other people
41:22
Speaker 1: see the photos, they always know what lots and eats
41:25
Speaker 1: jobing me And it's we get in our own heads
41:29
Speaker 1: so much about what we look like there. But yeah,
41:32
Speaker 1: more I have done it. It's like, actually, you're looking
41:35
Speaker 1: really good as a body is a byproduct all the
41:38
Speaker 1: other bits that we do with exercise and health finess
41:41
Speaker 1: and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, definitely, And I
41:43
Speaker 1: know from that Poloto issue that you had you've done
41:47
Speaker 1: I think it's three Q and as as well from
41:52
Speaker 1: from that from people just pres you messaging your dming
41:56
Speaker 1: or or sending questions and whatever. What kind of question
42:00
Speaker 1: can you remember any that they asked? Yeah, so my
42:03
Speaker 1: things like my favorite things and least favorite things about
42:07
Speaker 1: the process of giving in that condition. My favorite thing
42:12
Speaker 1: was the kind of mental control, the control you gain
42:17
Speaker 1: over your body. Now I'm talking to you, we both
42:20
Speaker 1: got hers brums. Control over your body is kind of
42:23
Speaker 1: a myss in the sense that your body does all
42:25
Speaker 1: sorts of things. You're like, why the hell did you
42:27
Speaker 1: do that? But just like dictating to my body when
42:31
Speaker 1: I was hungry, when I was going to eat what
42:33
Speaker 1: I was going to eat. No, I'm not going to
42:36
Speaker 1: go for that takeaway. No I'm not going to just
42:38
Speaker 1: have another bit of chocolate. No I'm not, you know,
42:40
Speaker 1: gaining that control of the food because I think I
42:42
Speaker 1: sport of realized that I was very much an impulsive eater,
42:46
Speaker 1: and I took a little bit of what you fancy,
42:49
Speaker 1: does you good? But like to the end degree, and
42:51
Speaker 1: like when you're doing that kind of every day, what
42:56
Speaker 1: you end up with is like, oh, how did I
42:59
Speaker 1: get with these low hands? You know what I mean?
43:00
Speaker 1: While a packet of biscuits that you've been eating every
43:04
Speaker 1: tea time, you know, because just one more custom green
43:07
Speaker 1: is actually quite a lot of food. And so it's
43:11
Speaker 1: that kind of thing. So I really enjoyed kind of
43:14
Speaker 1: peeling back the curtain on all those kind of little
43:16
Speaker 1: habits that have formbleth for the years of just plopping
43:19
Speaker 1: in takeaway for a bit of fried chicken whatever. So
43:24
Speaker 1: I really enjoyed getting that. One I really hateous was
43:28
Speaker 1: the mental efforts of that over a long period. And
43:33
Speaker 1: what I really hated was, you realize how short tempered
43:37
Speaker 1: you are. You realize how you patient you are, You
43:40
Speaker 1: realize short diffuses and when you are that and so
43:46
Speaker 1: many like religious traditions as a part of the spiritually discipline,
43:50
Speaker 1: and I think the reason is is because it reveals
43:53
Speaker 1: what's done when we're not comfortable and happy in all
43:57
Speaker 1: that stuff, and you find out who you really are.
44:02
Speaker 1: You don't like me when I'm hungry, you know, it's
44:04
Speaker 1: you find out all that stuff. And so while I
44:07
Speaker 1: didn't enjoy the process of being there, certainly my wife
44:11
Speaker 1: didn't either, But like I enjoyed going there because I
44:16
Speaker 1: found out a lot about who are And next time
44:20
Speaker 1: I'll be better at that because I've been so Yeah,
44:25
Speaker 1: those are kind of the main paper ways from that. Yeah,
44:28
Speaker 1: it's really really interesting. It kind of circles back to
44:30
Speaker 1: what you said at the start about about when you're hungry.
44:36
Speaker 1: It kind of reveals you know a lot a value
44:39
Speaker 1: that maybe you didn't know so much before. And the
44:43
Speaker 1: fast thing is a really good point actually as well.
44:45
Speaker 1: And be interesting to know your people who do fast,
44:48
Speaker 1: whether it's for religious reasons or health reasons or whatever,
44:52
Speaker 1: as to what they would notice about their mood or
44:57
Speaker 1: certain changes in their life as well, which I think
44:59
Speaker 1: would be be really really interesting. Just while we've got
45:03
Speaker 1: sort of three or four minutes before we wrap up.
45:07
Speaker 1: In terms of the future for you, yeah, I know
45:09
Speaker 1: it's told to be about the acting and the personal
45:11
Speaker 1: training and all sorts of things. What would you like
45:16
Speaker 1: for your future? Ah, A bafter or two would be nice? Yeah,
45:22
Speaker 1: why not? Yeah, So I'll tell you what I'm working on, Caroly.
45:25
Speaker 1: I'm working on the play which looks at kind of
45:28
Speaker 1: the sexual revolution then of Putridis for all the stuff
45:32
Speaker 1: rascillin going and now relations between the sexes in today's
45:37
Speaker 1: day day. So I'm working on my play. I've got
45:40
Speaker 1: a movie script to take to a couple of film
45:42
Speaker 1: festivals and try and sell and get that made. I'm
45:46
Speaker 1: going for Matt Damon and just writing my own film
45:49
Speaker 1: to be in because getting cast is very difficult. And
45:54
Speaker 1: then personal training it's just about I think I'm niching
45:59
Speaker 1: down now to kind of I don't really want to
46:05
Speaker 1: help people get into photo shoe shape. That's not like
46:08
Speaker 1: what onere of my niches. I think what I want
46:10
Speaker 1: to do is help people build resilience, build self discipline,
46:13
Speaker 1: build help them become the kind of people they want
46:16
Speaker 1: to be, the kind of if you're sitting just scrolling
46:21
Speaker 1: for your phone all day, or if you've got no
46:22
Speaker 1: control over your food. It's like people think, oh, I'm
46:25
Speaker 1: no good with X yfeled, and it's like no, no, no,
46:28
Speaker 1: you can become that if you have somebody in your corner,
46:31
Speaker 1: motivator you pushing you along, if you follow the steps
46:33
Speaker 1: they give you, if you just invest in yourself and
46:38
Speaker 1: apply yourself, you could achieve so much. You know, I'm
46:44
Speaker 1: a guy who heads My last operation was in two
46:47
Speaker 1: thousand and seven and they had to read you my
46:49
Speaker 1: scar resize buscuard because they were getting too small. And
46:52
Speaker 1: I you know, I couldn't walk for a couple of
46:54
Speaker 1: days afterwards because all my kind of abb muscles have
46:56
Speaker 1: been severed, right, So I had no poster like that
47:00
Speaker 1: know now, a personal pate. And so it's like you
47:03
Speaker 1: can do anything if you apply your and you don't
47:08
Speaker 1: need to talk to me about that, you know, watch
47:10
Speaker 1: the Paralympics, watch you know, any documentary about anyone who's
47:15
Speaker 1: achieved anything. Ever, even if you've gotten the best start
47:20
Speaker 1: in life, you go to eat and you go to
47:22
Speaker 1: walks with jud to Cambridge, you still have to overcome
47:25
Speaker 1: and go do difficult things in order to get to
47:27
Speaker 1: where you want to go, right, And so like anybody
47:30
Speaker 1: can do it. I think that's yeah. I just leve
47:34
Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. I'm helping some clients they've
47:37
Speaker 1: got a really bad relationship with food and under eating.
47:40
Speaker 1: Just I'm just helping them eat more food to be
47:42
Speaker 1: more healthy, you know, and other people they've gone the
47:45
Speaker 1: other way. So I'm helping them make better food decisions.
47:48
Speaker 1: And then other people just really want us to match
47:50
Speaker 1: out seven pull ups. So I'm like, great, I mean,
47:52
Speaker 1: help you do that. And I'm just sort of like
47:55
Speaker 1: it's help. It's helping people become the people they want
47:58
Speaker 1: to come and using help fitness kind of a foil
48:00
Speaker 1: for that. And then in the meantime doing the best
48:03
Speaker 1: to one of you baftis, so you know that's what's
48:06
Speaker 1: up bazing. Well, it has been an absolute pleasure, absolutely
48:11
Speaker 1: lad to have you on. I've had a had a
48:13
Speaker 1: great time chatting to you, legends. I thank you so
48:17
Speaker 1: so much for coming on. And just very quickly before
48:21
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48:27
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48:43
Speaker 1: we wrap up, Tom like, thank you for what you're doing.
48:46
Speaker 1: I I think you'll remember the first chat that we had.
48:49
Speaker 1: I was just I was buzzing because I didn't know
48:52
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48:57
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49:00
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49:04
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