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SUB 2 HOURS: WHAT JUST HAPPENED.. & King (LeBron) James is BACK! | MindSets Podcast | Episode 86 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to another episode of The Mindset
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  Podcast, episode 86. Charles, what's the latest for
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  you? We've got so much to talk about,
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  so much Sporting News, so much marathon news, so much life
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  news. We've got lots to talk about.
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  Wow. First of all, I'm going to start
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  off with an apology, OK? For anyone who made it through
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  the last episode, an hour and 45, what?
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  It was PB, it was APB for us. It was part of the news that
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  we're going to cover. But you could almost run a
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  marathon in the time that we're doing the podcast.
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  But that was arguably the intention.
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  It was a marathon special, gave some people something to listen
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  to while they were running. Yeah, it was a long one.
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  We're going to try and avoid doing that.
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  And what we've realized is quite often it's because we have too
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  much news and too much my gears, because we end up getting like
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  half an hour in before we move off those.
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  But this episode, there has been so much going on that we're not
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  going to try and squeeze in an athlete and do them a disservice
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  by getting 45 minutes in before we even mention what they're
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  doing with their life. So we are just going to kick it
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  off and basically just doing news, Grandma Gears and Game
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  episode and I think there'll be quite a lot of information about
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  people along the way in there. So with that being said, unless
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  there's anything else, do you want to get involved and start
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  off doing the news? Are we going to try and do news
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  sub two? No, OK, we're not sub two hours,
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  sub two hours. Ideally, yeah, on and on the on
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  that topic. Huge news.
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  I feel like that's going to be the the main talking point of
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  the whole episode is is the the two boys who ran sub two over
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  the weekend. So I'm going to, for now, I'll
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  glaze over that because I want to talk about that in a little
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  bit more detail. Let's just quickly go off off
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  running for a second. I don't know if in the news
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  you've seen that McLaren have started making golf equipment.
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  This excites me. Yeah, and it's not like this
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  really gimmicky. We're good.
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  We'll do a collab with McLaren. They're actually going full in
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  on on making role for equipment and they've signed Justin Rose.
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  So like. Big name like.
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  A big name. I think there's also speculation
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  that they've signed a couple of other big names as well, but
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  they're coming in hot with Justin Rose, so they mean
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  business and he's going to be playing with McLaren clubs for
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  next year. Just putting this out there, if
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  Rory McIlroy, yeah, when and moved away from tailor made,
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  Yeah, how sick would the clothing be for McLaren Slash
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  like X Nike? It would be.
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  We're spending some money on that.
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  Oh, for sure. We're spending some money on
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  that. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, crazy. That would be really cool if
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  they if they can do what they do in Formula One, which is where
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  they basically look for any way to get around the rules on
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  equipment and then make it happen.
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  Like we spoke by the beginning of the season, Ferrari didn't
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  end up running with it, but they had like a rotating wing.
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  Imagine just like a driver that has an electric motor in it
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  because they found a way to make that.
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  Leap. You can lengthen it, yeah.
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  I don't know if you've seen this is a little bit niche for the
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  golf YouTube watchers here, but Rick Shields and a few other
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  Youtubers have tested out the like explosive driver is for
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  like people that are old and can't hit the ball very far.
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  But you put like a cap a capsule in it for like a gun, like a
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  shotgun capsule. And then you load it up and then
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  you can just put a ball in front of it and hit go fires it.
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  So you don't even have to swing it.
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  Yeah, no, you literally just put behind the back and it just, it
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  gets you 200 yards down like a gun.
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  Yeah, yeah, literally. Yeah, I might look into that.
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  They are sick. Yeah, they are fun.
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  Anyway, onto. More news.
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  More News Yes. So NFL draft like last weekend
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  it was, yeah. I think that will also be last
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  weekend for you guys listening. Yeah, I'll just say the first
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  pick went to the Raiders and they selected Fernando Mendoza,
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  who played in for Indiana last season.
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  He was actually the Heisman winner.
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  He was 2025 S case quarterback for the Raiders.
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  So be interested to see how he goes in in the in the big boy
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  league next. Very, very talented player from
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  what I saw, obviously Indiana when we were talking about them
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  winning college player first time ever.
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  He's actually got a younger brother really also pretty good
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  who just recently transferred. So it'll be interesting to see
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  if a bit like, I don't know if you'll know these guys, the tug
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  of all lower brothers, 2 tug of all lower had more concussions,
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  I think than passes in his recent, but he was by far one of
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  the the phenoms coming out of college.
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  He had a younger brother who just didn't convert and everyone
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  was like, oh, he's going to be as good, if not bad.
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  And it didn't happen. So it'll be interesting to see
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  if with the Mendoza family, if they can do it.
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  But I will say that he is arguably like, and he not in
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  like a bad way at all, but he's probably the most like white
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  quarterback for quite some time. Yeah.
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  Yeah. He's your NFL prototype pocket
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  pass. Yeah.
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  OK. Get the job done.
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  Yeah, yeah. And just will do what he needs
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  to do to not get injured but win games.
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  Is he going to be the the face of the franchise?
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  Well, this is the typical thing. I don't know if you've seen the
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  the drama around it. Is that he?
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  So you said who he'd been drafted by.
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  Yeah. So they have also just paid a
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  lot of money to their starting quarterback.
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  Oh really in the next few years. So we'll let.
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  Them that seems to always happen.
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  Yeah. And do you know, do you know
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  what from like inside the sport? Inside the sport is not a bad
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  idea. Like sign someone really good,
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  give them a few years to learn and then get them going.
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  If you sign someone good out of college and you throw them
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  straight and it's very, very rare unless they're a physical
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  presence. There have been a few cases out
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  there because. Cam Newton was great, but like,
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  again, his difference wasn't like his ability to read the
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  game. His ability was just to run
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  people and be like, really? Because I've I've been
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  disappointed with like Trevor Lawrence and his presence in the
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  league, but he's I guess he's just not got the team around him
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  and. Yeah, so he, that's the thing
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  that I I love about American sport is that the draft system
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  is designed to kind of neutralize across years.
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  So the worst team will get the first picks unless they've
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  traded them. Trevor went to, at the time, the
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  worst team in the league by far and the problem was that they
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  didn't have a strategy for like, easing him in.
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  It was just like you're going and you have to, you have to.
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  Bring up he didn't start first game, but he probably should
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  have done because the guy who was ahead of him had been
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  notoriously a backup for other teams.
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  And then he came in and kind of just had to deal with what he
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  got. And it happened so many times
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  and a lot of quarterbacks might enter the league and they'll be
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  frustrated that they don't get to start because they're the
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  best thing since like, but then actually.
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  And they've been worshipped throughout their whole college
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  career and high school career as well.
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  And then it's those guys that end up not really making it
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  because they they don't know what they're doing.
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  Yeah, well, Brady, for example, was draft like I don't know how
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  low down. He went 190.
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  Six, he went like slow, and then it's obviously one of the
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  greatest, if not the greatest. Same, same with Patrick Mahomes,
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  which is a more like household name.
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  Like he was drafted in the first round and he was considered one
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  of the best players. But then he sat for I think 2
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  years. Oh really?
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  He got some reps He sat for two years behind a very, very good
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  player. Learn how he controlled it and
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  then brought in his talent and the things that he would do
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  differently leading the team and then was incredible.
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  So yeah, anyway, what's next? I've got Nellie Corder, so she's
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  a female golfer. She won her third ever major
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  over the weekend. It's called the Chevron
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  Championship. I think it's one of their five
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  majors that they're going to have this year.
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  So she started the year strong. As a result of that win, she's
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  also reclaimed top spot. So she's ranked now world number
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  one female golfer, so going to probably have a pretty
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  successful career over this year.
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  She also equaled, I think it was the lowest shooting score across
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  54 holes at that event and then won the event by record five
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  shots or something like that. So she was like, she was playing
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  some good golf, which was really cool.
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  I've got, I've got a G1, but I want to come back to it because
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  I feel like we're just talking about golf.
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  OK, fine. We're going to recap very
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  quickly. It feels like ages ago now, but
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  the High Rocks Elite 15 Warsaw, which was the final major of the
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  season. So what did we see there?
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  Well, Joanna Beatrick won the Grand Slam.
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  She's won every single major this season, and she set a world
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  record. So she ran in a time of 54
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  minutes, 25 seconds, which is absolutely insane.
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  It's also worth saying that Lauren Weeks, who finished
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  second, also broke the old world record.
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  And what we learned pretty quickly was this could be a fast
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  course. And then following that, Alex
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  Ronchovich won that race and ran that in a world record time of
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  5129, which is just absurd because that's almost a minute
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  quicker than the world record we saw a month ago in London, which
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  was almost a minute quicker than the previous record.
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  So it's just a bit mad at the moment.
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  And I think people are starting to understand the world records
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  probably don't mean that much anymore, and that's why the.
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  I think, yeah, at this point in the like in the sports like
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  infancy, it's still growing. It's still like adapting and
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  learning and kind of standardizing things.
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  That's natural to happen, but it doesn't take away from the fact
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  that these are incredible athletes doing incredible things
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  and I think it was probably the conditions were really good in
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  Warsaw. Exactly 1 of the interesting
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  things as well, which probably wouldn't get spoken about
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  normally, but from being there, it was actually really cold in
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  the stadium, which for the athletes, a lot of them are
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  doing heat training, it's just like a real bonus.
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  But I think like physiologically, the cooler it
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  is. I don't want to misspeak and,
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  and we'll talk about this with the marathon over the weekend in
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  London as well. I've kind of written it off as a
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  fast course because it was, I got to the course at like 9:00
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  AM and I was already like shorts and T-shirt, like it's warm.
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  So I kind of written it off And all of the, the commentary in
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  Warsaw around the high rocks are like, oh, it's colder in the
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  venue. I'm like, yeah, naturally you
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  want conditions to be like 3-4 degrees if you're actually like
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  looking at the science behind it.
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  So naturally you're going to sweat less.
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  Your heart rate is going to stay a little bit more consistent or
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  lower for longer and you're not going to have to worry about dry
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  mouth or taking on as much water etcetera, etcetera.
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  So like it is conducive to being faster.
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  So naturally, as we saw that will definitely contribute.
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  To it and I think, I think all of the like all of the athletes
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  were commenting when they were turning up and noticeably, and I
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  don't know if this was a timing thing, if this was a deliberate
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  thing, but I noticed on both of the nights for the solos and the
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  double S between the women's race and the men's race, it
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  dropped. Oh, really?
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  Like I was running around with my camera, as you know.
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  Yeah, I got my appearances on everybody.
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  Yeah, you did. Yeah, Yeah.
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  Instagrams, but it's like the drinking game.
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  I yeah, I, I was absolutely shorts and AT shirt gave my
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  hoodie and my bag to someone else for the women's race.
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  And then by the men's race, I was asking for my hoodie bag
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  still running around. So I was like, it's actually
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  kind of cold in here. Yeah.
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  And so that was that. The only other thing really
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  worth mentioning 'cause there weren't any world records in the
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  Double S races, was that the Roxfit team of superstars broke
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  the world record for the mixed relay.
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  So they ran a 56, sorry, a 4647. So that team was Joanna Eatrich,
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  Charlie Bottrell, Sinead Ben and Sebastian Iferson, who also.
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  Crazy team, yeah. Unreal team and again watching
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  it crazy crazy so fast. So that was a.
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  Lot did Lauren Weekson. Was it to Futo?
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  Did they run together? Did they not break the world
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  record? I don't.
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  I think it was a world. Record, but they've now won
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  every race that they've raced together or at least got faster
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  through. Yeah.
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  And what's really interesting about the way that the hierarchy
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  system is going next year and that you can only be paired up
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  with some. So they're probably gonna stay
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  together, this team, which is cool.
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  And I will say from watching Vivian race in person, she looks
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  so unbothered about being there. And like, I will also say Lauren
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  Weeks is a far stronger runner. So she is being dragged, but she
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  just looks like kind of annoyed the whole time.
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  And she just does get through it.
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  Yeah, It's like. It's incredible that she manages
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  because it looks like she's having a miserable time and you
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  look at Lauren and she just looks like she's having the best
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  time ever. What I am excited to see though
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  is Joanna versus Lauren in the double srace.com because
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  obviously Joanna didn't do her double S race there.
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  So it was kind of just like, OK, this is interesting.
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  No, it's set set up to be a really good way to finish the
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  season. But there was time, I think.
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  I think you called Alex Roncovich as well.
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  You were saying he was going to win, I think.
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  So we couldn't overlook Joanna when we kind of took our
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  predictions there. And then Charlie SEL and Lauren
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  Stockley managed to get there. So, so good.
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  And I mean, I don't know if she'll listen to this, but
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  Lauren's dive across the line, which is completely
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  unintentional, was incredible. So good.
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  Bless her. She's such a good video, yeah,
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  as well. And bless her, she, I think she
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  really hurt herself doing it. But like, she kind of, yeah, I
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  have to be happy. But that was that was really.
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  Yeah, really pleased for them. Moving on from high rocks, we
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  should talk probably women's Six Nations round it up.
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  Yeah. So Week 3 that we're on now, I
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  think England are just like allergic to doing anything less
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  than 50. They're quite good.
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  So they are quite good at 62 to 24.
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  Last weekend Italy beat Scotland 4114, France beat Ireland 26 to
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  7. And so that's where we're going
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  at the moment. It's looking like the roses.
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  Are going to this week I think the the weekend before when
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  England played Scotland. I think Ellie Kildonn, our mate.
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  Yeah. She scored her 50th England try,
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  which was really cool as well. Yeah.
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  Yeah, that was cool. And then she started.
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  We all got confused. We saw we saw all the Instagram
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  posts of Ellie starting the London Marathon.
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  We're like, what, the day after she played a game?
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  Yeah. The starting was she pressed the
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  big red button with Mo Farah to initiate the event.
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  Yeah. She didn't actually run it,
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  which would have been really cool.
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  It would have been crazy. Yeah.
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  Yeah. But that's also also on the on
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  the news as well. Bringing it back to golf, I've
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  got a slightly niche bit of information.
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  I just Oh no, I can't find it. I will continue scrolling as I
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  explained, but there is an Oh yeah unofficial golf world
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  record through 72 holes and. I can't wait for you to
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  pronounce this guy's name. And Andreas called Andreas van
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  de Vifer through 72 holes was 35 under par, under 19.
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  It's unofficial because there's only footage of him on his last
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  round. OK.
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  But like, it wasn't an event that was televised or anything.
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  He went 35 under through tall. Level, even even if it's, yeah,
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  I mean, even if there's no footage of it, there's got to be
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  people there watching and they've verified the scores
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  after every round. So it's like, that's still
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  unbelievable. Imagine.
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  Yeah, so keep an eye on his name because.
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  If he, that's really cool. Doing that in his career, then
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  he will be. That's really cool.
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  What's next? I think you've got to go for
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  your mate LeBron James. Right, OK, now this this is in
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  this is just crazy to me. So at the moment, for context,
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  it's the NBA Finals. And so we're in like the play
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  offs and the LA Lakers who LeBron plays for are playing
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  against the Houston Rockets. Now going into this some further
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  context is that the LA Lakers have got some pretty big
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  injuries and they are missing probably the two best players
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  there of of the on their roster for the season.
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  And what that comes down to then is you've got LeBron James, who
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  is always in the GOAT debate. I don't think there should be a
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  single debate. I've been thinking not now.
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  Yeah, for for a while now, I've been thinking that debate's
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  probably over What he's doing at the moment is absolutely absurd.
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  So with no real team, LeBron admitted that he's just going to
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  have to give everything he can. And it was supposed to be
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  Rockets win in four games of A7 game series.
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  So you win. If you win 4, you win the
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  series. The LA Lakers went three up in
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  the series and he was playing some of the most outrageous
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  basketball I've seen him play in his career.
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  There's that clip that's going around at the moment where it's
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  like they're three points back or something, and it's like
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  rookie versus LeBron and Lebron's, what, 41?
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  And LeBron chases back after him, slaps the ball out of his
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  hand, gets the ball again, comes out for three jumps over like 2
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  guys and just slots it, drains it.
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  Like yeah, like proper. Absolutely like.
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  Your watching the thing. That's the thing that I love
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  about this and like I appreciate so much about that we're living
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  in the era that he's playing is when I see him do stuff like
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  this, it makes me excited for the documentary.
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  I was going to say something like I can't wait for.
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  A bit of this that's going to be unreal.
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  The other thing that's crazy is. You'll be sat there with your
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  kids in like 20-30 years time. Be like, I remember watching
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  this live. I'm gonna.
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  Be I'm gonna be sat there with my kids and I'm gonna be so
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  disappointed in them because let's some of the some of the
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  best comments I've seen online is that think of all the things
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  as a as a man that you have done in your free time.
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  And what LeBron has done with his free time is made a child
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  that has gone on to be the reason they won the third
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  playoff game because Bronny Lebron's son is also playing on
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  the same team as him, which is just another reason that he's
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  noted like he's been playing so long that he's actually raised
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  the child in his career that he's now good enough to be on
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  his. That's crazy.
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  And then his son got five points, which some of which he
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  assisted with. But when the Lakers beat the
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  Rockets in that third game, they won by 4 points.
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  So without Bronny's points, they wouldn't have won the.
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  So as a result, there was there was stats going around of like
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  Lebron's total scoring for that game with.
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  Combined with Bronie. 'S points on there because it
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  was like without him that would have.
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  But there's also like an insanely cool clip, which like
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  made me almost emotional of launching LeBron on the
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  three-point line. Take a step in looking like he's
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  going to shoot and it's just an alley oop for his son to go and
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  just dunk it and all. Like not dunk it, but like layup
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  first layup and like watching that.
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  I'm just like, imagine that must be the most insane feeling to
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  your father, like assisting your son like that.
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  That's the power of sport, isn't it?
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  I, I think it's, it's over and done with for me that the debate
• 17:46
  is that there shouldn't be a debate.
• 17:48
  Michael, I will give Michael Jordan the credit of he's like
• 17:51
  the initial chef in that he was doing things which now 90, I
• 17:57
  would say 90% of players in the league can do what Michael
• 18:00
  Jordan used to do. He was just the first to do it.
• 18:03
  And I think that's insane. But I think when you think about
• 18:06
  the fact that in the 90s Jordan was playing against like 1 Hall
• 18:10
  of Famer which was Larry Bird. LeBron James goes against teams
• 18:14
  with four Hall of Fames in the and still comes out on top is
• 18:17
  enough for me. But there's so much like
• 18:18
  cultural significance around Michael Jordan as well, and I'm
• 18:21
  sure there is as well around LeBron James.
• 18:23
  But it's just like, yeah, it's interesting because they're both
• 18:27
  such household names. It'd be interesting to know,
• 18:29
  like, worldwide, who more people know of.
• 18:32
  Is it MJ or is it LeBron? I think that's tough because.
• 18:36
  That's like personal branding as well, but I'm thinking like.
• 18:38
  The Jordan brand is like, so wild, yeah.
• 18:42
  But then, the LeBron career has lasted 20.
• 18:45
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that as well.
• 18:46
  Which is insane. Yeah, but like Michael Jordan
• 18:48
  played baseball as well. Because he couldn't hang enough
• 18:51
  in basketball. Anyway, what have we got next?
• 18:55
  Should we shout out some of the the marathoners?
• 18:58
  Yes. So we'll go away from the elites
• 19:01
  first. George Grassley, right.
• 19:03
  So we have to shout out. George Grassley won the London
• 19:07
  Marathon this weekend, just gone with a time of two hours, 12.
• 19:09
  And I'd be specific, he won the mass.
• 19:11
  So he didn't win the elites as we'll get on to.
• 19:14
  But George previously had run London Marathon last year and
• 19:18
  his goal this year was to be 215 because that's in theory like an
• 19:22
  elite marathon time. George ran 3/09 per kilometer
• 19:29
  for the 42.2 kilometers, finishing in a time of two hours
• 19:33
  and 12 minutes, which is absolutely ridiculous pacing
• 19:37
  from him when in theory he needed to hold 310 for his
• 19:41
  target time, which I think his his original target time was
• 19:44
  actually 214 is what he wanted, but he needed to run 310 and
• 19:47
  then he actually ran faster than that.
• 19:49
  Strava says three O 9. I actually think based on the
• 19:52
  distance end up being more like three O 7, three O 8, which
• 19:55
  doesn't sound like a lot, but to be faster than a time you've
• 19:58
  never run before for the marathon distance by that much
• 20:02
  is actually pretty insane, so hats off.
• 20:04
  Yeah, absolutely incredible performance.
• 20:06
  And like the stars must have aligned and I can't imagine how
• 20:11
  good it would have felt because there's I think there was a
• 20:14
  point where it was him and two paces and he was just kind of
• 20:18
  tucked between the two paces. But then the paces will finish
• 20:21
  the race basically I think somewhere around probably 30K.
• 20:25
  And then it's just him by himself through the streets of
• 20:29
  London, which were like, I've never, I've been to the marathon
• 20:33
  a lot of times living in London my whole life last maybe like 4
• 20:37
  years. I go to the same spot.
• 20:39
  This was the first time that I've arrived at that spot and
• 20:42
  I'm like. Three people deep already.
• 20:44
  It was busy. It was like, and that was early
• 20:47
  so I can't imagine what it would have felt like running down
• 20:49
  embankment with like 5 deep of people just screaming at you and
• 20:53
  it's just you by yourself like that.
• 20:55
  That has to be a contributing factor to why he ran so so fast
• 20:59
  and ran so well. And he also like he looked
• 21:01
  fucking good doing it. Oh yeah, he lives smooth.
• 21:03
  So good. One interesting fact for you
• 21:05
  saying is that we seem to have the most outrageous network.
• 21:08
  You used to live with George. Me, I thought, no, I went to
• 21:10
  school with him. Oh, you went to school?
• 21:12
  Count on the fact that we, yeah, we went to posh school and and
• 21:15
  boarded together essentially. Yeah, they live.
• 21:17
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. We went to school together.
• 21:20
  That's so it's actually crazy. Yeah, Yeah.
• 21:23
  We are actually looking to get George on.
• 21:24
  If George is listening to this, this is a reminder of your
• 21:27
  invite. But we did speak about it last
• 21:29
  week before you became famous. The open invite.
• 21:31
  So if you want to come on and talk us through how it actually
• 21:33
  felt, I'm sure all of the listeners listening to me say
• 21:36
  this right now would absolutely love to hear how your training
• 21:40
  has gone because you do also work a nine till 5.
• 21:43
  That's that's the best bit about it.
• 21:44
  One of the things as well, if we're going to get into his
• 21:46
  training, I can tell you and you know this, George runs his easy
• 21:50
  runs to and from his nine to five job to get his mileage in.
• 21:54
  And that can be anything from like 15 to 20 K pre work and 10
• 21:58
  to 15 K after work because I know he front loads his volume
• 22:01
  daily and weekly. But yeah, just.
• 22:04
  His straw was a good place to go and and have a little look
• 22:07
  through the the best is like run to work in the morning and then
• 22:12
  run from the office to Battersea to then do your session to then
• 22:16
  run home. He was just on I think Times
• 22:20
  radio or something. He did an interview because now
• 22:22
  he's famous and the guy was like if you went pro and essentially
• 22:28
  just left your job. I think he works in finance.
• 22:31
  Left your job. How much more running volume
• 22:33
  would you do? The guys like I can't do any
• 22:36
  more running. Like he's on 200K weeks and like
• 22:39
  no, no one really is running more than two 100K weeks.
• 22:42
  But he was saying the the marginal gains where he could
• 22:45
  get faster would be he'd have more time to recover.
• 22:48
  He'd have more time to actually do strength training because
• 22:51
  those are the things, the first things to go, like you have to
• 22:53
  prioritize your running. I'll be interested.
• 22:55
  Like we've got to get him on. We've got to talk about.
• 22:57
  Well, we, we will. What I will say is I'll give and
• 22:59
  this is only fair because Roscoe gets involved with us a lot.
• 23:02
  Roscoe did actually do a podcast with him conveniently a week
• 23:05
  ago. So if you guys do want to hear a
• 23:06
  bit about George, then go and check that out on the Diastyles
• 23:09
  Monday podcast, because George does talk a bit through about
• 23:12
  his preparation for this race. And obviously he's he's not done
• 23:15
  actually, he's he's not completed many marathons and
• 23:19
  really like race them. So it was interesting to see how
• 23:21
  his prep was. And one of the things he did say
• 23:23
  was he couldn't do much volume, much more volume.
• 23:25
  If if he wasn't working his job. The thing that would be he would
• 23:29
  have more of a focus on his strength training.
• 23:31
  Because right now he honestly says, I just avoid it like I'm
• 23:35
  supposed to. I just don't bother.
• 23:36
  I hate it. But then also.
• 23:39
  That's going to be a really frustrating thing for people to
• 23:41
  hear. And then, and then the thing
• 23:43
  that's also really interesting about him saying that, you know,
• 23:45
  his job is his opportunity to rest, like it's forced rest.
• 23:47
  So he when he sits down in that chair, he's actually deloading
• 23:50
  his legs and he's he's forced to do it.
• 23:51
  But it mentally is so different. It's training.
• 23:54
  Whereas I mean, I've experienced this in a career shift, but you
• 23:57
  go from doing something that you enjoy doing and then you don't
• 24:00
  have the sort of forced thing that you have to do, which then
• 24:05
  makes you want to do your training and your whatever it is
• 24:08
  more. You suddenly kind of get this
• 24:10
  blurred line of like, oh, this is kind of my job now.
• 24:12
  And like if you have a bad day doing the thing you love, that
• 24:14
  you've had a bad day at work and kind of all blurred.
• 24:17
  And so I think that's a really difficult thing for someone at
• 24:20
  his level to cross into the elite.
• 24:21
  Like some people really don't find it very easy.
• 24:25
  And so I can imagine there is a bit of hesitation to do that.
• 24:28
  Yeah. And I think the reason why we're
• 24:29
  so excited is like, to put it into perspective, that's one of
• 24:33
  the fastest British marathons this season.
• 24:37
  Yeah. Didn't you say it was something
• 24:38
  like top 10 maybe? I don't know if it's top 10, but
• 24:40
  it's like it's going to be up there because you're obviously
• 24:43
  like the first finisher, British finisher for the marathon on
• 24:47
  Sunday was Mohammed. Mohammed.
• 24:48
  He ran a two O 6. So there's like there's still a
• 24:51
  big gap. And I'd say the closer you get
• 24:53
  to those numbers, probably the harder it is to to eke out like
• 24:57
  the extra minutes that you need. But whilst we're talking about
• 25:01
  Roscoe and his podcast, like he also ran, he ran on Sunday, he
• 25:04
  ran I've got it written down somewhere.
• 25:06
  He ran A23451. 334 sorry God yeah yeah but no honestly for a
• 25:13
  first marathon as well like his first time doing it I think 3
• 25:16
  weeks before didn't think it was worth investing in new shoes and
• 25:19
  his shoes currently shoes he did most of his training in for his
• 25:22
  block I think had over 1.2000 mark like KS in them so.
• 25:27
  Yeah, he's going to hope when we edit it, we leave my the 2:30.
• 25:30
  Four. Yeah, yeah, he's in.
• 25:31
  He's going to. He's going to make a reel out of
• 25:33
  that, I'm sure. But no, he he looked really good
• 25:36
  out there and it's obviously not the first time he's like covered
• 25:38
  the distance because he's done an Iron Man and then he did the
• 25:41
  trail marathon that you did. But it's his first like proper
• 25:44
  marathon race. On tarmac race.
• 25:47
  And so, yeah, big congratulations to Roscoe.
• 25:49
  Who else did? So to long term podcast
• 25:53
  listeners and also podcast contributors, they'll know who
• 25:56
  they are. So we've got Nick Billett ran
• 25:58
  230 O 4 and that's correct. That is A2 to start with, which
• 26:01
  is unbelievable quick. He messaged me and he said those
• 26:05
  4 seconds were going to haunt him forever.
• 26:07
  Yeah, I was like, you just get, get your money's worth.
• 26:09
  Four extra seconds. Yeah.
• 26:11
  Yeah, exactly. Of like soaking up the cheering
• 26:13
  a. Lot I do when I play golf mate,
• 26:14
  you know I use the whole. Course, lots of shots, we'll see
• 26:16
  the whole thing and then Ollie Clark ran a 24259 so which is
• 26:21
  also like the sub 243. We've like yeah, exactly smashed
• 26:25
  it. We've been deconditioned because
• 26:27
  there's so many people who like run incredible times and you
• 26:30
  look at that and you go just even getting close to three
• 26:33
  hours is so good. To go sub 3 is just like mind
• 26:36
  blowing. George Grassy's ruined it for
• 26:38
  everyone. You see you can run like close
• 26:40
  to 210, which is mental. Gordon Law ran a 3/28/20. 3:30
• 26:46
  Which actually is well for some context, knowing Gordon like he
• 26:49
  wasn't very well. No, he was well, and you've
• 26:51
  been. Quail.
• 26:51
  So like pulling that out of the bag.
• 26:53
  Fair play. Do you know who he's coached by?
• 26:56
  Is it George? It's George Varsity, of course.
• 26:58
  Great weekend all round. Professionally, Adam or
• 27:00
  whatever. Then we've got not.
• 27:02
  I should also say, yeah, not officially like unofficially
• 27:05
  like advice. Advise Yeah, yeah.
• 27:07
  Consultant. Yes, marathon coach Consultant
• 27:10
  Holly Archer, who's kind of like bridged the gap into high rocks
• 27:13
  recently. Yeah.
• 27:14
  Maybe. Yeah.
• 27:16
  There's probably more controversy to talk around her
• 27:18
  for the for Warsaw, but maybe we skip over that because she had a
• 27:22
  great race in London. She ran 23344, came fourth of
• 27:25
  the masses. That's mad.
• 27:27
  Which is crazy fast. Considering like there was no
• 27:29
  like real marathon block in training.
• 27:31
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So just like incredibly pretty
• 27:33
  impressive. And then we've got a few more
• 27:36
  quickly run through them. Troit Haynes.
• 27:38
  Yeah. Not in jeans this time, though.
• 27:39
  So I was just pointed out. I saw him run past.
• 27:43
  I was like, I was really glad I saw him.
• 27:44
  But yeah, I was sad he wasn't. Wearing hasn't he because he ran
• 27:47
  I can see you on your screen 23235 he run on very similar
• 27:50
  time in genes before. I think so, yeah.
• 27:53
  So like I think so I, I saw his Instagram post, he said he
• 27:56
  didn't run with GPS because he just wanted to like see what he
• 27:59
  could do intuitively. He saw our reel about Paula.
• 28:02
  Yeah, must have been, Yeah. And he, he said he reckons he's
• 28:06
  got more. He he left some some like some
• 28:10
  probably some time on the table after that.
• 28:12
  He he reckons he can go faster. But his big thing if you if you
• 28:15
  don't know he's he's pledged that he's going to try and make
• 28:18
  the Olympic trials and he needs a time of 216 and like all of
• 28:23
  the marathon world and all of the runner is up in arms that
• 28:25
  he's even made that claim. But like to bridge the gap from
• 28:29
  a two 3015 minutes to get down to two.
• 28:33
  It is a lot, but you know, I'd I'd love to see him.
• 28:37
  Do I think he's cool? I think he's a good a good
• 28:39
  ambassador for the sport of running.
• 28:42
  But yeah, if you can do it, that would be incredible.
• 28:45
  A few more Alish Mccogland. I think it was a Scottish
• 28:48
  record, but she ran 224. She's the first Brit slightly
• 28:53
  slower than her PB. She's obviously an incredible
• 28:55
  runner, but I don't know if you saw the photos of her foot.
• 28:58
  Not good for her shoe brand, but like her whole shoe and sock was
• 29:02
  like red with blood. And then she posted some like
• 29:05
  pretty graphic photos off of of like the bottom of her toe would
• 29:08
  like come off and there's an interview.
• 29:10
  She was like, I felt my foot explode.
• 29:13
  I was like, that doesn't sound great.
• 29:14
  She had a pretty rough time out there, so I don't know if it was
• 29:17
  a new shoe or whatever. And then finally Alex Yee, who
• 29:21
  was one of the Pacers, I was reading an interview.
• 29:24
  I was like, maybe he accidentally paced Jack Rowe a
• 29:27
  little bit too fast 'cause Jack ran faster than Alex Yee's time
• 29:30
  so I don't know if he's kicking himself.
• 29:32
  And then there were, there were a few.
• 29:34
  I mean, there's loads of great performances that we could talk
• 29:36
  about. But I think obviously the stand
• 29:39
  out we need to talk about is we've got two guys who've both
• 29:42
  run sub two and like we can deep dive into that.
• 29:47
  Before we do that, I need to go and chat about the girls race
• 29:51
  because we had, we can't skip over that.
• 29:53
  It was a the women's only record was broken by a SEFA who's now
• 29:58
  gone back-to-back London Marathons, which is incredible.
• 30:02
  It was the first race I think where three women have run sub
• 30:06
  216, which is also incredible. But it was a really interesting
• 30:11
  race to watch. If you haven't watched it, you
• 30:13
  should go back. I don't know if there's
• 30:14
  highlights, but you can kind of scrub through the live coverage.
• 30:17
  They went so hard for the first half and it was an interesting
• 30:22
  battle between the top three girls, but it felt like they
• 30:26
  probably went a little bit too hot on the flip to how the men
• 30:30
  ran it, which was just incredible.
• 30:31
  And we'll talk about that now. But maybe they got a bit excited
• 30:34
  over the the occasion. But yeah, that's, that's kind of
• 30:36
  the women's race. But I guess now the the the main
• 30:40
  course. Yeah, well, well, hot topic,
• 30:42
  first of all, those of you that do hierarchs and know hierarchs
• 30:44
  can all understand this was just a fast course at the end of the
• 30:47
  day. That's what it was.
• 30:49
  But no, let's let's be clear. I'm pretty sure did third place
• 30:56
  in the men's race beat the world record.
• 30:59
  Yeah. So third place beat the world
• 31:01
  record. Yeah.
• 31:02
  And came third. Jacob Limo.
• 31:04
  Yeah. Wild, wild thing.
• 31:06
  And we were talking about Kapimo last year.
• 31:08
  Because he he ran some ridiculous half marathon time.
• 31:12
  Yeah, I think back in Valencia and we were chatting about could
• 31:15
  he make the step up to marathon distance?
• 31:17
  And clearly yes he has, but unfortunately two other people
• 31:21
  have as well. So we had two sub two hours.
• 31:24
  The winning time was at 15930 and the next time was.
• 31:29
  Kojochka ran was it 140? I think he he matched or was
• 31:36
  very close to matching what Kipchogi did for his breaking 2
• 31:40
  attempts, which is like the controversial or like the main
• 31:46
  talking point is that there was so much funding behind that Nike
• 31:49
  attempt and so much science behind it and the team of Pacers
• 31:53
  and lasers and nutrition strategy.
• 31:54
  And I'm like, yes, there was a lot put into that.
• 31:58
  And yeah, maybe it's kind of tough for Nike to see two Adidas
• 32:01
  runners run faster in an actual official event.
• 32:05
  But also, like, Sebastian Soiree and Cajuncture aren't going into
• 32:09
  this marathon with like, no preparation.
• 32:11
  They've got a whole team behind them.
• 32:13
  They've got Adidas making their shoes for them and creating like
• 32:16
  the most scientifically advanced fastest trainer possible.
• 32:19
  They've got a whole nutrition team behind them.
• 32:21
  They've got like, I think, And I was, I was actually listening to
• 32:25
  Paula Radcliff's podcast. They did like a debrief after
• 32:28
  the race. And she was talking to Steve
• 32:32
  Cram, who's one of the commentators at some point had
• 32:35
  the world record mile time as well.
• 32:38
  So like really great runners. They'd run computer simulations
• 32:42
  of like the perfect race and with the shoes, the terrain, the
• 32:46
  temperature, everything, all nutrition strategy all factored
• 32:49
  in. I think it came out and it said
• 32:51
  the fastest you can run is a 159, like 30 something.
• 32:57
  So it's like it was literally bang on what he ran, which is
• 33:00
  like crazy to think. But then I'm like, does that put
• 33:04
  a time in his head? That's the fastest you can run?
• 33:09
  Or could he have gone quicker if he didn't know that?
• 33:13
  Yeah, maybe. Do you know there was like a
• 33:14
  ceiling they went, if everything's perfect, you run
• 33:17
  this fast. But if they hadn't told him.
• 33:20
  So it's just interesting to think I.
• 33:22
  Feel like with the with that barrier having been in place for
• 33:25
  so long, though, like you would, you would expect that that
• 33:28
  theoretical barrier, now that the science has caught up and
• 33:31
  like they're able to predict things, you would expect them to
• 33:33
  not be like, Oh yeah, you could probably do a 154.
• 33:35
  Yeah. It would be like so close to sub
• 33:38
  two. And if you haven't run sub two
• 33:40
  before, you'd be like, I think on the on the perfect day, yeah,
• 33:43
  I probably can the person on the brakes too.
• 33:45
  But you're right. If if they were like, do you
• 33:47
  know what, whether shoe the way you're running at the moment,
• 33:50
  everything's lining up to you could even go sub 159 maybe, but
• 33:54
  I don't think it was ever going to be like.
• 33:56
  But I do think like the stars had aligned and he probably had
• 34:00
  close to what we could consider a perfect race.
• 34:02
  I I think probably their main threats going.
• 34:07
  So this is from a perspective of Sebastian Soi, the guy who won.
• 34:11
  I believe they'd have thought their main threat was coming
• 34:13
  from Kip Limo so could joke out of context.
• 34:18
  Well, for context, that was his debut marathon.
• 34:21
  So so like, that in itself is just truly mental.
• 34:25
  So the first time he'd ever run a race at marathon distance, I
• 34:29
  think that helped the race. I was going to say you because
• 34:33
  you're with someone. Yeah, so So what?
• 34:35
  So I've I've seen so many memes and like loads of stuff coming
• 34:38
  out. Imagine running sub two and not
• 34:41
  winning. Yeah.
• 34:42
  And like this poor guy on his debut has come second to maybe
• 34:45
  the best little web for sure is the best ever marathon ever run.
• 34:50
  But I think the fact that he was on debut maybe was a little bit
• 34:55
  kamikaze with his pace and like didn't really know how he was
• 34:58
  going to feel. So I think that helped.
• 35:00
  So one hurt Kip limo, like they dropped him and I think it then
• 35:05
  pushed Sebastian's like go on and run as fast as he did,
• 35:09
  because without that he may have just like, well, I've dropped
• 35:11
  Jacob limo. I can slow up now because I know
• 35:14
  I'm going to win. I think one of the things that
• 35:16
  I've always found when I'm even if I'm doing like a workout kind
• 35:20
  of with someone against someone I'm getting competitive is like
• 35:23
  if I'm in the whole and actually, you know this very
• 35:25
  well because of the group that the training group you put
• 35:27
  together a couple of years ago. But I could be in so much pain
• 35:32
  and the person to the left or right of me could also be in so
• 35:34
  much pain, but because they haven't stopped, I refuse to.
• 35:39
  And so if I'm running along and fair enough, there might have
• 35:41
  been like a 15 second difference by the end of the race, but
• 35:44
  there definitely wasn't up until like the last few kilometers.
• 35:46
  So if I'm like, God, I'm, I'm hurting, but then this person
• 35:50
  just hang onto my hip and like, if they can do it, I can do it.
• 35:53
  Whether they're thinking the exact same thing and we're both
• 35:56
  thinking, I don't know if I can do this anymore just simply
• 35:58
  because they are there. I have to be able to do it if
• 36:01
  they're able. To do it I can do it also.
• 36:04
  And I also wonder if Sebastian, he's like, I cannot lose to a
• 36:06
  guy who's running his first competitive marriage.
• 36:08
  Maybe. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 36:09
  Imagine. Yeah, yeah, it is incredible.
• 36:11
  But also like when you think of this, this computer simulation,
• 36:16
  I don't know if they'd factored in, like what if XYZ makes a
• 36:19
  move? Do I cover that move?
• 36:21
  Yeah. But it's like the the team know
• 36:23
  that he can run that fast. They, they just haven't put
• 36:26
  together the perfect race or the perfect race strategy.
• 36:29
  Like he's run, I think the last 12 months he'd run 3 marathons.
• 36:34
  I think he'd won all three of them and he hadn't run slower
• 36:38
  than like a two hour 3. So it's like this guy is like
• 36:40
  serious running pedigree. Just to mention, he's also gone
• 36:44
  back-to-back now to London. So he won last year, he's won
• 36:47
  this year. I just, I saw in my notes, I
• 36:50
  can't skip over I think a SEFA who won the women's race.
• 36:53
  She's run 8 marathons I think, including the Olympics and maybe
• 36:58
  world champs. She's never placed lower than
• 37:00
  second. Like that's that sick.
• 37:04
  It's good. To know for betting.
• 37:05
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like always put your money
• 37:08
  on there. That's an awesome stat stat.
• 37:10
  One of the things that I thought was really interesting for
• 37:12
  Sebastian's race was he effectively negative split the
• 37:16
  entire time, which is which is insane because the first, so I,
• 37:19
  I looked through briefly, they started and went out like a 248
• 37:23
  per kilometer. I'm not even sure what that is
• 37:26
  per mile. But then his, his average pace
• 37:29
  for the entire race was something like 2 minutes, 51 per
• 37:34
  kilometer. The high, the the slowest split
• 37:37
  came like 8 to 12 kilometers and was a 254 per kilometer.
• 37:45
  And then it dropped back down at the end.
• 37:47
  His I think his last two kilometers was sub 244 per
• 37:49
  kilometer per kilometre, which is just.
• 37:51
  Yeah, he drops. Yeah, crazy.
• 37:53
  Like a 412 mile or something to finish it, which is just like.
• 37:57
  So I think I think of the if if you did it into 5 kilometre
• 38:00
  blocks. Oh, he's at fourteens
• 38:02
  consistently. So he was at.
• 38:03
  Fourteens, fourteens, fourteens. And then I think the slowest one
• 38:06
  might have crept into the fifteens.
• 38:08
  Shocking. And then how embarrassing.
• 38:10
  But just just no. Zero rest.
• 38:13
  You just like actually looking at them sprinting down the road.
• 38:17
  But it's like. It's been a race.
• 38:19
  You do, you do look at it and you go, well, they don't look
• 38:22
  like they're sprinting because they like so from from like a
• 38:26
  televised perspective, obviously, and in your brain is
• 38:30
  like they can't possibly be sprinting because they're going
• 38:32
  for so long. But they ran past and in person,
• 38:36
  I'm so pleased that I was there and I saw them in person because
• 38:39
  it's like that moment where you're like, where were you?
• 38:41
  And I was like, I was actually there.
• 38:42
  And for all of the people who ran, you were a part of history.
• 38:45
  Like whether you did a 7 hour marathon or a 230 marathon or
• 38:48
  whatever, like you were part of that history, which is really
• 38:50
  cool things to be able to say. But like it is a blur and then
• 38:55
  they're gone and you're like, oh, I missed them.
• 38:57
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 38:58
  So I put a photo of this on my story of Soiree and Kiplimo.
• 39:01
  They're like running next to each other.
• 39:03
  I'm like 3 people. But I had to screenshot the
• 39:05
  video because they're just, I couldn't, I couldn't take a
• 39:07
  photo fast enough. There's just some ban they've
• 39:09
  gone through, but it's like it's the you can't comprehend it.
• 39:13
  And I've said this so many times before.
• 39:14
  I hear people just chatting away in the gym.
• 39:16
  We're talking about it in class and people like, I don't know
• 39:19
  how long I could hold that pace for.
• 39:21
  Like probably 50 meters. Like, oh, I'm like, no, no, no,
• 39:24
  no, you can't run that pace. So you can't even run that pace,
• 39:27
  let alone run it for. I saw a.
• 39:29
  Really. Funny thing, BBC Sport decided
• 39:31
  to go into a gym to talk about how quick that was.
• 39:33
  And they got a guy who was like, actually pretty well built.
• 39:37
  And they were like, how long can you run at the pace?
• 39:41
  And the whole premise was like, this guy might be able to do it
• 39:43
  for like 30 seconds. They never once showed the
• 39:45
  treadmill monitor because he is dying.
• 39:47
  And then afterwards, he's like, yeah, I don't think many people
• 39:50
  will be able to hold that kind of pace for that long.
• 39:52
  Like you didn't even show that you hit it because you didn't
• 39:54
  hit it. Like you didn't get there.
• 39:56
  I think some gym treadmills don't even go that far.
• 39:58
  No, it was on one of the assault runners, so you can see and
• 40:01
  they're self driven. But yeah, he did not hit that
• 40:04
  speed. I'm so sure because I could see
• 40:05
  how fast he was running. And the fact is they went up and
• 40:09
  cut and I was like, yeah, there's no light.
• 40:12
  What's really upsetting is, you know how you said, you know, it
• 40:14
  was a pleasure to be there and see it?
• 40:16
  What's quite depressing is I was on the Northern Line.
• 40:18
  Oh wait, that happened. For when the whole thing
• 40:20
  happened, I didn't see it in person.
• 40:23
  And this is, I'm using this as a Segway, by the way.
• 40:25
  It's not obvious. The reason was because I was at
• 40:28
  the CrossFit Coaches Congress. Oh, nice.
• 40:30
  The day before in Madrid, I didn't see any anything outside.
• 40:34
  It was a hotel next to the airport.
• 40:36
  I went between the two. However, I did meet Matt Fraser,
• 40:41
  which is crazy, and I felt really guilty because I know
• 40:44
  that that that's huge for you. I mean, it's huge for me.
• 40:47
  Like it was huge for you. What's really, really upsetting
• 40:50
  is I did actually have a pen and paper in my pocket to get him to
• 40:52
  write you a little message. But the opportunity.
• 40:54
  Just was not there and I didn't want to be like filming him
• 40:58
  being really professional and being like, do you mind writing
• 41:00
  it? Because also, and I'm sure,
• 41:02
  Matt, I know you're listening. I'm sure you won't mind me
• 41:06
  saying you looked rough and all you wanted to do was go to bed
• 41:10
  because they've been screwed over on one of the connecting
• 41:11
  flights. He slept on the airport floor.
• 41:13
  Oh nice. After spending a full day
• 41:16
  dealing with I think, I believe he's got twins.
• 41:18
  Yeah, yeah. That were fighting.
• 41:21
  Apparently they're at fighting age the way he describes.
• 41:23
  And so he, he looked tired. He was looking at an opportunity
• 41:28
  to get back. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 41:29
  I was supposed to. I believe I was supposed to see
• 41:31
  him later on in the day as well. And apparently he was just
• 41:34
  asleep. Yeah, yeah, it's fair enough.
• 41:36
  But I'm sure we will meet him again.
• 41:37
  Yeah. When he comes on the.
• 41:39
  Yeah, but he he a comes on the podcast or at the very least,
• 41:42
  and this is what I was actually going to do.
• 41:44
  I was asking, I was going to ask him if he could give me like
• 41:47
  just a quick voice recording of his peak performance training
• 41:50
  week. A week ago, Yeah, yeah.
• 41:53
  And discuss it. So I'll see if I can do that,
• 41:54
  because I do actually. Sure, there's like there's so
• 41:56
  much on on YouTube. He's he's like the glory days of
• 41:58
  CrossFit for. Me, yeah, yeah, so good.
• 42:01
  Anyway, that that was annoying and I'm using that as a segue to
• 42:04
  put us into Grind My Gears. Nice job this week.
• 42:06
  There's quite a lot of things. A lot of them are going to be
• 42:08
  marathon focused, so we sure find them, fly into them.
• 42:13
  Do you want to start us off? Yeah.
• 42:14
  So the controversial 1. I don't want to upset anyone
• 42:17
  and, and I don't think we said it, but like, congratulations if
• 42:19
  you did manage to finish. It's such an amazing day in
• 42:22
  London. But how many days post marathon?
• 42:26
  It's not really a grand my gear. It's more of a question.
• 42:28
  How many days post marathon is it acceptable to still be
• 42:31
  wearing your medal? I personally think 0 because but
• 42:36
  I I did see one. Thing but you taking it in your
• 42:38
  pocket with you and. There's a few people that I know
• 42:40
  the work of runner and they didn't.
• 42:42
  They didn't. Medal Monday.
• 42:44
  That's nice. And that's nice.
• 42:45
  I think office spaces, if that's like medal Monday, if you run
• 42:48
  the marathon ring in your medal, I think that's great.
• 42:52
  But I I just. But can you go round London and
• 42:56
  there's certain places that like offer you free food and you can
• 42:58
  get free stuff It's. Rare on the day after.
• 43:00
  I think it's becoming more common because it it looks
• 43:02
  great. Like you are but but can you get
• 43:05
  free tube as well? You get free tube on the day.
• 43:07
  OK, fine. And yeah, you just tap it.
• 43:12
  It comes to the card inside. Yeah, it's 4.
• 43:14
  Pounds reloaded, no. So yeah, you get that free, but
• 43:18
  then I think if you're wearing it after that day, that's a bit
• 43:21
  of sad. Do you know what?
• 43:23
  It's okay if you're just in your own home and no one else is
• 43:25
  there. If you want to do that to feel
• 43:27
  some sort of achievement, fine, But otherwise, just hold it, you
• 43:30
  know, hold it out. That's fine.
• 43:32
  I was going over Tower Bridge to get to work yesterday.
• 43:35
  I was cycling over and there were lots of people who'd
• 43:37
  obviously like travelled to London to race in the marathon.
• 43:40
  They were there holding their marathon, getting a photo of, of
• 43:43
  Tower Bridge in the background, which was quite nice and there
• 43:45
  were lots of people wearing them.
• 43:46
  But I think like getting towards it's like, how many days after
• 43:51
  New Year do you say happy New Year?
• 43:52
  It's the same kind of I think, like.
• 43:53
  Yeah, you know, it's so true. Two days probably acceptable you
• 43:56
  are. Quite annoying.
• 43:57
  Like I, I'm, I understand you're going to talk about the fact
• 44:00
  that you run the London Marathon for probably a week.
• 44:02
  It's going to be in your conversation.
• 44:03
  I don't need to see the medal though.
• 44:05
  I've seen it, yeah. I've seen it in that time.
• 44:07
  I'm just jealous. I didn't even think that this
• 44:09
  year's this year's medal was right.
• 44:10
  They were huge. Yeah.
• 44:12
  That's got to be the biggest marathon medal I've ever seen.
• 44:14
  It was pretty cool. It's nothing on.
• 44:15
  I think that was a Paris one like a year ago.
• 44:18
  Yeah, I think the 2024 Paris Marathon medal was really cool.
• 44:21
  I like that one. I think I maybe I'm hesitant to
• 44:25
  run a real marathon because I don't really want a shit medal.
• 44:27
  Oh true, that would really ruin your day, wouldn't it?
• 44:29
  Grind my great. It would grind out of my gears
• 44:32
  if I ran a marathon and the medal was horrible, I think.
• 44:36
  Yeah. Talking of which, actually one
• 44:38
  of my grandma Gears of Sieg. So where I was positioned was
• 44:41
  just off to Tower Bridge doing some filming stuff, which was
• 44:44
  about the half marathon point. The number of people I saw get
• 44:48
  to that point wave at the the Marshall and just be like, yeah,
• 44:52
  I'm, I'm done. And they were like, oh, like,
• 44:55
  you're OK, you're injured because there's ambulance crews
• 44:57
  everywhere. And there were a few people
• 44:58
  stopping and getting injured and getting wheeled off the course.
• 45:00
  God bless them. But some people, like, I only
• 45:03
  fancy doing half. It's incredible running across
• 45:05
  Tower Bridge. But I'm, I'm done and then
• 45:07
  happy. And I was like, do you know how
• 45:09
  many people want to run this thing?
• 45:11
  Yeah. And you're just like, I'm happy
• 45:13
  with that. I've done my half marathon.
• 45:14
  Oh my gosh, no. So annoyed.
• 45:17
  I've never applied to the under marathon, but I'm annoyed that
• 45:19
  you've done that because I would rather run it than you.
• 45:22
  That's so bad. And I know how much that would
• 45:24
  annoy you. So annoy.
• 45:25
  Have you done your application? I have already done that.
• 45:28
  I need to so my next cry. My gear is also marathon
• 45:31
  related, and it's also so from a listener who sent in.
• 45:34
  So let me let me read their messages.
• 45:38
  I'll keep them anonymous. They've they've set the tone.
• 45:42
  It's so good. So picture this all right on my
• 45:47
  lunch break, enjoying the dulcet tones of the mindsets podcast.
• 45:52
  What do I see? Question mark.
• 45:54
  So this is this must be two days before the marathon.
• 45:57
  So you can, you could have already gone to the Expo to
• 46:00
  collect your numbers, etcetera, etcetera.
• 46:02
  What do I see? Someone already wearing their
• 46:04
  London 26 marathon tee. So when you go and collect your
• 46:09
  stuff, you get a T-shirt as well.
• 46:10
  So they haven't even run the marathon yet.
• 46:11
  They're wearing the T-shirt. So Keane having picked up my
• 46:16
  T-shirt yesterday in brackets obviously to never wear just for
• 46:20
  the hell there it says finish it on a so surely you can't go
• 46:25
  around plastering that on pre event?
• 46:28
  All right. Not everyone is going to get
• 46:30
  through the 42 KS so how is it somebody saying finisher?
• 46:35
  Surely that's a yellow card offence simply cannot.
• 46:38
  That's bad. Judy, I think that was a red.
• 46:41
  That's. A red, that should be a test.
• 46:44
  Yeah, if, if. That's so bad, isn't?
• 46:46
  It your chip should be in the race and if you and if you wear
• 46:51
  it beforehand. You're not allowed to start.
• 46:52
  No, that's it. Yeah, it won't work.
• 46:54
  You're done. Yeah.
• 46:55
  I thought that was so good. That's.
• 46:57
  So awful. You can't be doing that, no.
• 46:59
  No, we have a thing for race finisher shirts anyway, but just
• 47:03
  that, that's well. Kind of another reoccurring
• 47:06
  growing my gear, which I've had multiple people send to me this
• 47:09
  week, was the number of people that ran like a sub 4 hour
• 47:12
  marathon wearing carbons. And you know what like this is
• 47:16
  there's a slight misconception. Carbon plated shoes have an
• 47:19
  efficiency improvement of up to 5%, but it's so dependent on the
• 47:22
  speed you're running at. Because I think for a lot of, I
• 47:26
  mean, I don't know if it was George that mentioned this on
• 47:28
  Roscoe's podcast, but I one someone I spoke to you as a
• 47:31
  pretty good runner said, I don't know why people that are running
• 47:34
  above 4 minute kilometers. Yeah, it's the four minute mark.
• 47:37
  Yeah. So if you're not running that,
• 47:39
  you're probably doing more damage by running carbons,
• 47:42
  especially over a race. I think it's also like this
• 47:44
  perception of I'm running a race, so I need to get race
• 47:46
  shoes and I'm like, you probably don't, but have you seen so the
• 47:49
  the new Adidas shoes that we kind of glossed over that both
• 47:53
  the the fastest guys wore on Sunday, the new technology.
• 47:58
  So they go on sale, I think on Thursday.
• 48:01
  How much they cost? Have you seen that?
• 48:04
  No, $500.00. So it's like £450.
• 48:08
  So the new technology, the new technology in it, I think it's
• 48:11
  called an energy rim. So it's not a carbon plate.
• 48:14
  It's like a rim that hugs the edge of the shoe.
• 48:16
  And then there's I think like a plate in the heel, which is
• 48:19
  obviously like created the most fast shoe ever and has the most
• 48:24
  return. Well, the other thing that's
• 48:26
  interesting, I think it's the first marathon shoe that's under
• 48:28
  100 grams. It's so light, it's incredible.
• 48:31
  I mean, it socks the way more than that to be honest.
• 48:34
  It's actually mental, but then it's like it must be close to A1
• 48:38
  wear shoe. Yeah like it's decent.
• 48:41
  I I I can't remember who posted a photo of them post race.
• 48:44
  It was someone fast like one of the elites and like they have
• 48:48
  basically like the rubber at the back of the sole as grip, which
• 48:52
  is basically like an F1 tire. I'd assume it's like got nothing
• 48:55
  on it, but it was already peeling off and I was like
• 48:57
  you've you've only run 42K so you're spending I I'd like.
• 49:00
  So this would be a grind my gear for anyone who's not an elite
• 49:04
  level marathon runner or even southerly wearing or buying
• 49:08
  those shoes. Yeah, it's just like now.
• 49:10
  Please, please do not buy those shoes unless you can run like a
• 49:14
  2. 50 Think of the planet as well.
• 49:16
  Yeah, what always. What always.
• 49:18
  What else have we got here? Oh, you've got one about the
• 49:22
  tube strike. So again, I'm going to have to
• 49:24
  read this out because the message was so good.
• 49:27
  So obviously in London we've had some Tube strikes going on the
• 49:30
  last week. I got this message at 6:50 after
• 49:36
  a commute on Thursday morning. Grind my gears for you dot dot
• 49:40
  dot. So if you would like to send in
• 49:41
  your Grind my gears or on Instagram, you can send me a
• 49:44
  personal message if you'd like to wherever you want to go.
• 49:47
  So the people that think a tube strike is the perfect time to
• 49:51
  learn how to ride a bike for the first time dot dot dot dot dot
• 49:54
  next message after carnage on in central London roads yesterday.
• 49:59
  0 bike control or awareness for other cyclists.
• 50:01
  What the hell FFS? So valid, so valid.
• 50:06
  And you know what I actually do love?
• 50:07
  I, I think E bikes are incredible, absolutely
• 50:13
  incredible. But my God, did the rules
• 50:16
  seemingly just not apply to anyone.
• 50:17
  And I'm not going to sit here and pretend that I'm like the
• 50:19
  perfect person because if I'm a light and I'm in a rush and I
• 50:24
  can see nothing's happened, but it is safe where there is a way
• 50:26
  for me to do it. Yeah, yeah.
• 50:28
  Then I'll be cautious. But like, what I am not doing is
• 50:30
  what I have seen people doing in the last week, which is just
• 50:32
  like jumping curbs, like using pedestrian lights to cross
• 50:38
  quickly, but then like also go the wrong way up the side of a
• 50:41
  road just because it's empty. And like forcing cars that are
• 50:44
  going the correct way to like stop because this person is
• 50:47
  clearly more important on their their line bike.
• 50:50
  It is just insane. And then, yeah, I'm going to
• 50:55
  leave it there because I just continue going off on people
• 50:57
  that don't know how to ride a bike.
• 50:59
  And it's it's wild. Oh also the people that clearly
• 51:02
  didn't do their cycling proficiency because they don't
• 51:04
  indicate, they just turn. I've I've adopted some bad
• 51:09
  habits from my Rd. cycling where you like learn how to signal in
• 51:12
  a group and and when you corner, it's like a very subtle, like
• 51:16
  little point. I do have some rather than like
• 51:18
  the the I'm sticking my armor and not doing that.
• 51:21
  That's a great. It's quite.
• 51:22
  Horrible. Yeah.
• 51:24
  Little point, yeah. But no, yeah, literally not
• 51:27
  doing anything. But I've been, I've been cycling
• 51:29
  with people that are like turning left, but they're in the
• 51:31
  middle of the bar and though and I'm on the left side of the road
• 51:34
  like you should be. Yeah.
• 51:37
  That's horrible. The the we've got another one
• 51:40
  that's been written in which is totally unrelated, but is cars
• 51:43
  without physical keys are the ones that have fogs, which is
• 51:46
  like the car knows. Yeah, yeah.
• 51:49
  I also agree with this person but they just don't make sense
• 51:51
  because sometimes cars just don't recognize them weirdly
• 51:54
  when it's cold. But also you just kind of
• 51:58
  trusting that you do have your keys don't actually know where
• 52:01
  it is. And then it's like where do you
• 52:02
  put it when you get in the car? There's no like you don't have
• 52:04
  to like insert to start. You just like leave it in the
• 52:08
  sense console. And if if someone has taken my
• 52:10
  bag and just like I know. Goes close to the car to the.
• 52:14
  Car and like try and open it but they could.
• 52:16
  Do you know the thing? Like whenever I lock the car, I
• 52:18
  like to just check that it's locked.
• 52:20
  Yeah, but you lock the car and then you go close again.
• 52:23
  And as you go to open the door, it opens again and you're like,
• 52:27
  so I need to lock it, walk away with the key and then ask
• 52:30
  someone to check if it's if it's if it's locked or not.
• 52:33
  I love that. That's yeah.
• 52:35
  No, they're too clever. Really, really annoying.
• 52:37
  You've got. Another one, yeah.
• 52:38
  So my 1. I don't know how many times I've
• 52:41
  said this. I haven't said it in a while
• 52:42
  though, but fitness influencers giving unsolicited advice.
• 52:46
  You can be a fitness influencer, whatever.
• 52:48
  Is that not the job of a fitness influencer?
• 52:50
  Oh, sorry, yeah, no. Yeah.
• 52:52
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, continue to do that.
• 52:56
  But it's, it's specifically when they're giving advice around
• 52:59
  nutrition. And I've seen so many different
• 53:03
  accounts giving like, it's not even close to right.
• 53:06
  It's just like so incorrect what they're suggesting as a carb
• 53:10
  load for the marathon. So over the last week, I've just
• 53:13
  been peppered by and as soon as I click on one, like look
• 53:16
  through the account, it's just like countless like you need to
• 53:18
  do this, you need to do this, you need to do this.
• 53:20
  I'm like 1, you have no qualification to your pretty
• 53:23
  average runner. And three, it's just wrong.
• 53:27
  Yeah. So it's like if I was an actual
• 53:29
  registered nutritionist, I would be all over it, but I'm not so.
• 53:34
  Although if you are listening as a registered nutritionist, I'll
• 53:37
  set your game for you. Yeah, I'll send you some
• 53:39
  accounts and the grind my gift for me this week.
• 53:43
  I've mentioned this before, actually in previous events,
• 53:46
  shooting at a London Marathon was the worst thing I've ever
• 53:48
  done. I had a tough time at the T100
• 53:50
  last year and I'm telling you about that.
• 53:54
  Worse. Was there a marathon?
• 53:55
  Just like like you said, I don't know what was going on this
• 53:58
  year. It was so much busy, so busy.
• 54:00
  And I in hindsight, probably picked some of the worst points
• 54:05
  in my experience. What I will try and do when I'm
• 54:07
  at an event is find when most people will go and then go the
• 54:09
  other way and then just take advantage of the fact that the
• 54:12
  content looks better. Even though I'm not the most
• 54:14
  famous spot. I went to the Tower Bridge half
• 54:17
  marathon point, which is also mile 22 on the way back, which
• 54:20
  remember it was so busy. Despite that, I'm actually make
• 54:24
  friends with people that are front, which is a normal
• 54:25
  technique. And when the person's coming
• 54:27
  along, I'm expecting them to, I just lean over the barrier,
• 54:29
  which worked OK. But when timing chips don't work
• 54:35
  properly, it is awful. So multiple times the timing
• 54:40
  chips were delayed for the people that I was expecting to
• 54:42
  come past, which meant that when they did come past, they were
• 54:45
  passed when I saw them and their timing chip was half a mile down
• 54:49
  the road. So to counter that, did the
• 54:51
  smart thing. I know a lot of people do this,
• 54:53
  shared their location with their phone with how busy it is.
• 54:57
  And someone actually said this perfectly in London.
• 54:59
  In London, I overheard this. How are we conceivably supposed
• 55:03
  to have been to the moon, but when it's busy in a location,
• 55:06
  nobody's phone works. And I was thinking in time like,
• 55:10
  wow, OK, conspiracy theorist. Also quite valid because what
• 55:15
  happened? And I ended up missing someone's
• 55:17
  finish, which was really, really gutting because I had been there
• 55:20
  for 15 minutes waiting. I was getting stuff set up.
• 55:22
  I was not just stood there like on my phone or anything.
• 55:25
  I was genuinely looking for a better angle because believe it
• 55:29
  or not, the finish is quite busy place.
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  So I'm in the grandstands at this point because they open up
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  and I was working way, way through.
• 55:34
  I saw a family ahead of me was watching their daughter go past
• 55:37
  and then as soon as they were out, I was in.
• 55:39
  I was like, cool, I'm at the front.
• 55:40
  I've got the whole view of the whole now.
• 55:45
  They're half a mile down the road on Find My iPhone.
• 55:48
  They're half an hour down the road on the chip.
• 55:50
  Somewhat misleading. Whatever.
• 55:51
  Look up at the screen there across the line.
• 55:54
  You'll be gutted. So gutted, but also like I'm,
• 55:56
  I'm gutted because like I'm trying to do my job.
• 55:59
  I cannot imagine how upsetting that would be if you were trying
• 56:02
  to support your daughter. Yeah, and you'd miss them.
• 56:04
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would be so, so sad.
• 56:06
  Like you've been ripped at that moment.
• 56:08
  And I don't think the thing that I'm thinking is like, what am I
• 56:11
  actually upset about? Am I upset that chips shouldn't
• 56:14
  be used whatsoever? No.
• 56:15
  Because Can you imagine trying to attract someone in a time
• 56:18
  where there were no chips at the impossible?
• 56:20
  You'd just be hoping. And if they got injured or
• 56:22
  stopped or something like that, you just have no idea.
• 56:25
  But I just wish it was more reliable.
• 56:27
  Well, there was just a better way.
• 56:28
  You'd imagine it would be more reliable, but I think so.
• 56:32
  The London Marathon, just on this point, I think it was, I
• 56:36
  saw somewhere where it was like 66,000 people started.
• 56:40
  Yeah, but that seems a lot because it broke the record for
• 56:45
  finishers. It's like a Guinness World
• 56:46
  Record for the amount of finishers.
• 56:48
  I think it took that off the New York Marathon recently, which
• 56:51
  was like 59,000. Does that mean that that amount
• 56:55
  of people didn't finish it Or it's like that's a number of
• 56:58
  that's how many people they're expecting to start.
• 57:00
  Some of them didn't start, some of them didn't finish.
• 57:03
  Maybe as a percentage that seems right, but it seems like a big
• 57:06
  number of people who don't finish.
• 57:08
  But I mean, again, it's like it's just goes to show how
• 57:10
  difficult the marathon distance is.
• 57:12
  I will also say as well, like just being about and around the
• 57:14
  marathon, I saw a lot of people that weren't finishing and I had
• 57:17
  to pull out from injury and also and all the people that decided
• 57:19
  half marathon was. But going back to the spectating
• 57:22
  point, like it is, you know, you see the elites go through, then
• 57:25
  the sub elites go through and then it's like slowly, slowly,
• 57:29
  slowly more and more people. And then it's like, OK, we're
• 57:31
  getting close to the three hour finishes, the 3:30, the four.
• 57:34
  And it's like, OK, I can't see anyone.
• 57:37
  Like how can I even if I'm tracking them, I might not even
• 57:40
  see them. I had load of people on Find My
• 57:41
  iPhone and they're like coming up the road and you're like
• 57:44
  stressing, you're like, am I going to see them?
• 57:46
  So if I did miss you, I'm sorry. Well, talking of things to miss,
• 57:51
  if you aren't watching on YouTube right now, you won't
• 57:54
  have seen that we've got something over our shoulders.
• 57:56
  So this week we have been in the presence of new pairs of high
• 58:04
  sock script socks, which originally for hybrid racing.
• 58:07
  It is their original intention, but I do actually know a lot of
• 58:09
  people that have started resorting to these in their
• 58:11
  races for running just because they're looking for any sort of
• 58:15
  extra edge that can get them feeling more attached to their
• 58:18
  shoe. I've been there where I've been
• 58:20
  running a race which I tied up really, really well with lace
• 58:22
  lock and for some reason that hasn't really worked and one
• 58:24
  shoe now feels less comfortable than the other and I end up
• 58:27
  coming away with blisters or something like that.
• 58:29
  That doesn't happen when you are more stuck to your shoe.
• 58:32
  You can obviously then imagine that if you are in a race where
• 58:35
  you have to pull a sled, push a sled, having your shoe stay
• 58:39
  firmly in there is is always beneficial.
• 58:42
  You racing them you like? Them really, really big fan,
• 58:44
  yeah. So if you are wanting to check
• 58:46
  them out, you can buy them in packs of 1.
• 58:48
  So by all means do so. You can save yourself 15% using
• 58:51
  code mindset 15 that's at highsocks.com or high style
• 58:55
  clothing. You can also save yourself some
• 58:57
  podium chaser wear if you are also chasing podiums.
• 59:02
  So thank you very much for the support.
• 59:03
  High socks. I'm going to put that back up
• 59:05
  there. Why?
• 59:07
  It's our favorite colour because we were stupidly, well, white
• 59:10
  trainers a lot of the time. Now we're going to move on to
• 59:13
  the game, which this week is higher or lower.
• 59:16
  Reason I've come back to higher or lower is I feel like the
• 59:18
  first time I ever did a higher or lower game with you.
• 59:20
  I mentioned marathon numbers. Oh, really?
• 59:24
  So I thought I'd bring that back.
• 59:24
  I remember so vividly when we played higher or lower because I
• 59:27
  think it was in Birmingham. It.
• 59:30
  Might not be that. No, I think we did it last year.
• 59:32
  Oh, really? But yeah, you definitely.
• 59:34
  That wasn't in it, that one. Sticks in my mind.
• 59:36
  I was like God to get this over with.
• 59:38
  OK, I want you to give me a random number between 0 and 1000
• 59:43
  to start us off. OK, 750.
• 59:47
  OK, 750 in which case I want to know if it's higher or lower to
• 59:53
  have a ticket for the Iron Man. Bolton 70.3 so half Iron Man.
• 1:00:00
  Yeah, 1/2, OK, the price for it. The price for.
• 1:00:04
  It it's not going to be much lower, but it's lower.
• 1:00:06
  OK, supposedly according to the Internet, £452.05.
• 1:00:11
  So it is lower, correct? OK, Up next, we've got.
• 1:00:14
  I know well. How many times in Ayrton Senna's
• 1:00:18
  career did he have the fastest lap and it needs to be higher or
• 1:00:24
  lower than 452? Knowing how many times Lewis
• 1:00:32
  Hamilton has won a Grand Prix, that number's lower, so I'm just
• 1:00:36
  I'm guessing. Just fastest lap though.
• 1:00:39
  But then I'm like, he can't have raced that many more grand
• 1:00:41
  prixs. I'm going to say, is that yeah,
• 1:00:44
  lower. OK, it's actually surprisingly
• 1:00:47
  only 19. Yeah, OK.
• 1:00:49
  For his whole career. Now for the London Marathon,
• 1:00:53
  yeah, how the the youngest you can be to race is 18 years old.
• 1:00:59
  How many 18 or 19 year olds raced in total?
• 1:01:03
  Is it higher or lower than 19? Higher.
• 1:01:06
  OK. And you would you want to take a
• 1:01:08
  guess and lower OK 650? Four.
• 1:01:11
  OK, that's good. That's good.
• 1:01:14
  Now again, topical. LeBron James average points per
• 1:01:18
  season OK across his whole 22 year career.
• 1:01:22
  Is it higher or lower than 654 points?
• 1:01:25
  That's a really good question. This this includes postseason as
• 1:01:30
  well. OK.
• 1:01:32
  I mean, you play a lot of games per season and as a good
• 1:01:38
  basketball player you can score a lot of points per game.
• 1:01:42
  Or did I say how about 600 and? 654.
• 1:01:47
  I think I'm going to trust my gut.
• 1:01:49
  I'm going to say higher. OK, his points average for GO
• 1:01:54
  status, 1888.7 points per season throughout his career.
• 1:02:00
  That's crazy. Including injured seasons, yeah.
• 1:02:02
  We need to do like a side by side of Michael Jordan.
• 1:02:06
  If the people want it, put it in the.
• 1:02:07
  Comment. Message us on socialist we will
• 1:02:10
  we will do the goat debate and finalize it as to non American
• 1:02:14
  non basketball players. You're tall, but yeah, you've
• 1:02:17
  got cyber ability. I don't even have that.
• 1:02:20
  I've got nothing. Right in the Six Nations, we've
• 1:02:25
  been seeing some record tendencies.
• 1:02:27
  We've also been seeing some pretty low attendances for the
• 1:02:29
  women's game. However, the Italian women's
• 1:02:32
  stadium is called the Stadio Sergio Lanfranchi Palmer.
• 1:02:38
  Do you think the maximum attendance capacity is higher or
• 1:02:41
  lower than 1888.7? If it's lower than it is in
• 1:02:50
  embarrassment to like the the sport of women's rugby, I think
• 1:02:56
  it's just like, of course it should be much bigger.
• 1:03:00
  But knowing like amateur grassroots level rugby, which
• 1:03:03
  this isn't, but knowing that like some of the pitches that
• 1:03:08
  clubs in the UK are playing on for women's rugby don't even
• 1:03:11
  have a stand, I'm I'm going to say higher.
• 1:03:14
  OK, you're right. It's 5000, which is still so
• 1:03:18
  low. The stadium actually does look
• 1:03:19
  kind of cool, but it's tiny. OK.
• 1:03:22
  So from there we've got what was Alex Ronchwicz winning earnings
• 1:03:28
  from Warsaw. Is this so?
• 1:03:32
  This is just like that's on. Big checks and he raced.
• 1:03:36
  You're not going to give me this.
• 1:03:38
  He raced double s and solos and he won both.
• 1:03:45
  Yeah, he he made OK, but then he split the double S potentially.
• 1:03:49
  We assume he split with 10. We're going pre tax as well
• 1:03:53
  because we do have to pay tax on their.
• 1:03:54
  Own and the stadium size was 5000 something it was for sure
• 1:03:58
  he he made more. OK, couldn't you work out how
• 1:04:01
  much he made? I'm going to say close to like
• 1:04:07
  15 to 18K. Pre tax $20,000 OK so he he got
• 1:04:13
  so he split the 10 with 10 Yeah but you win 15 if you win the
• 1:04:17
  Minnesota. OK.
• 1:04:17
  I thought it was like closer to 12, but OK, cool.
• 1:04:20
  I'm pleased with that as a guess.
• 1:04:21
  Yeah. So 20,000 was his earnings OK?
• 1:04:24
  That's decent. How many people finished the
• 1:04:30
  London Marathon? Is it higher or lower than
• 1:04:33
  20,000? Higher.
• 1:04:35
  You've got the number in your head.
• 1:04:36
  It's. Yeah.
• 1:04:37
  What is it? I'm going to say it's like close
• 1:04:39
  to 59. Is it 59,000?
• 1:04:41
  OK, hold on. I'm good today.
• 1:04:43
  It can't be to the to the. Eight O 4 or something.
• 1:04:48
  How many people finished across both London hierarchies?
• 1:04:56
  OK, so December in Excel and then London in Olympia which?
• 1:05:01
  Was an 8 day event. I mean, it's, it's definitely
• 1:05:04
  higher because I know that in London I think it was close to
• 1:05:08
  like I remember looking because I was interested to know if it
• 1:05:11
  was how many people were competing versus how many people
• 1:05:15
  run the marathon. And I think it was quite close
• 1:05:17
  in just the excel somewhere sat around like 40 to 50K people.
• 1:05:23
  So even if 20,000 or 30,000 people, let's say that's quite a
• 1:05:30
  lot for Olympia. I'm I'm sure it's more.
• 1:05:32
  I'm sure it's more. Got them, got them.
• 1:05:34
  You got got as did I by the marketing side of things.
• 1:05:39
  So London XL had 44,000 participants which included
• 1:05:43
  judges. Are never volunteers.
• 1:05:46
  Never. Finishes there was only 21,823
• 1:05:51
  and in London Olympia only 6000 which is low and that.
• 1:05:57
  Yeah, that does seem like. That seems lower than I
• 1:05:59
  expected. Is that with the the that's?
• 1:06:00
  According to the Internet. OK.
• 1:06:03
  Was that including the European EMMAAE?
• 1:06:07
  MEAS Well I I I'm not 100% sure, but even if it wasn't then I
• 1:06:11
  that would only add a couple thousand.
• 1:06:13
  It's not going to be higher than the 59,000 runners we had at
• 1:06:16
  London Marathon, I'm afraid. At least my thought process was
• 1:06:19
  logical true. OK.
• 1:06:21
  So we're going, we're going, we're going to use 6000 and
• 1:06:23
  we're going to use 21,823, so 27,823.
• 1:06:27
  OK, shame higher or lower Patrick Mahomes daily earnings.
• 1:06:32
  Higher. I'm not even going to do that.
• 1:06:34
  I'm not even going to do that. So his daily earnings yeah,
• 1:06:38
  offseason or not yeah, 137,000 dollars 800 and well, 808.
• 1:06:44
  Dollars. Yeah, yeah, crazy.
• 1:06:46
  But also like, so that's basically a 6th of what?
• 1:06:50
  Wait, what did we work out? Cristiano Ronaldo's?
• 1:06:53
  Yes. We Yeah, yeah.
• 1:06:54
  I don't even know, but like crazy money.
• 1:06:57
  So, OK, the last one higher or lower than 137,808, the average
• 1:07:09
  number of views on a mindset's reel this year?
• 1:07:14
  That's a great question. I'm because we've had some big
• 1:07:20
  ones. We've had like a 2,000,000 plus.
• 1:07:26
  Then we've had my latest one boom in at 450K, the Keely.
• 1:07:33
  Bigger Pooler, by the way. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:07:34
  She's yeah. So Keely for her one, Yeah.
• 1:07:38
  But then like I'd say on average, we're getting like, oh,
• 1:07:43
  I don't know, 137, I think probably, I think it's lower,
• 1:07:55
  but the face you pulled. No, Average views on our Rails
• 1:07:58
  this year is 240,000. I should have backed it.
• 1:08:03
  Yeah, we've been doing really well.
• 1:08:05
  That's really good. However, that's really good.
• 1:08:07
  People lovely listeners that are involved, the likes don't
• 1:08:11
  convert the same. So while we have views and we
• 1:08:13
  have likes, we are very appreciative because we weren't
• 1:08:16
  generating this sort of traction a year ago.
• 1:08:18
  However, if you are listening to this, you're not following on
• 1:08:21
  Spotify, you're not subscribed on YouTube, or you're not even
• 1:08:24
  following on the social media before we get even into liking
• 1:08:27
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• 1:08:31
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• 1:08:35
  wow, those guys are doing so well.
• 1:08:37
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• 1:08:40
  And without changing your bank account because it's literally
• 1:08:43
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• 1:08:48
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• 1:08:57
  hit follow and get involved with some of the posts that we're
• 1:09:00
  posting. Feel free to go and stir the pot
• 1:09:03
  in some of the comments because the Paula Radcliffe reel and the
• 1:09:06
  Lewis Hamilton one we've done, some of the comments have been
• 1:09:09
  outrageous. We also will need to say we
• 1:09:13
  might have ended someone's career, which is really sad if
• 1:09:15
  you think about it like that. But someone decided to comment
• 1:09:17
  from their gym business account just saying stupidly silly
• 1:09:21
  things about Paula Radcliffe and as a result have needed to
• 1:09:24
  delete their own account. So that's funny.
• 1:09:27
  You could have witnessed that whole thing if you're in our
• 1:09:28
  comment section. So please get there and send us
• 1:09:32
  any grime ideas you have as well.
• 1:09:34
  We have been low. We fortunately had a lot from
• 1:09:36
  the marathon of our own experience.
• 1:09:38
  But coming into the summer, we're expecting lots of things
• 1:09:41
  to be upsetting everybody and we need to discuss them.
• 1:09:42
  We need to let you guys vent. So that is the plea of the
• 1:09:48
  episode, I would say. Yeah, easy.
• 1:09:50
  Anything else from you for? I don't think so, no.
• 1:09:53
  That's got to be my best quiz performance.
• 1:09:54
  I'm Yeah, that was pretty good. It's.
• 1:09:56
  A shame at the end, yeah, you got done.
• 1:09:58
  It's like the one where you chose yourself, your injury
• 1:09:59
  probability. I was trying to be humble.
• 1:10:04
  OK, well with that, without further ado, it was a pleasure
• 1:10:07
  having you all join us again for another week and we look forward
• 1:10:09
  to seeing you in the next episode.