Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Stop Interrupting, Start Engaging: Problem-Based Sales Strategies
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Today's episode is an out and
- 0:03about episode, so we expect to hear some noise in the
- 0:05background, especially since there's some guy not far from me
- 0:08who is playing gospel music. So as you're listening to this
- 0:11podcast episode, if you can hear the gospel music, I hope that
- 0:14the music is going to minister to you and it's going to console
- 0:18you and open you up to God's blessings so that your business
- 0:22will flow much more smoothly. And actually, this is a good way
- 0:25to start of the day by listening to, you know, say your prayers,
- 0:27listening to some gospel music, and then try and get that money
- 0:30so that God will bless the work of your hands.
- 0:32So today's episode is not about gospel music and it's not about
- 0:37God, but it's about how to use problem based openers to market
- 0:42your business. Now, the reason why I'm talking
- 0:45about problem based openers is this.
- 0:47Now, for those of you who think that that sounds like big
- 0:49grammar, just hang in there. You'll see that this is quite
- 0:51simple is because, well, First off, I've mentioned it in the in
- 0:56a couple of episodes, maybe like the last four or five episodes
- 0:59in the last week. And I don't think I have defined
- 1:02what a problem based opener is so far.
- 1:05Now a problem based opener is this that when you're having
- 1:09conversations with people, OK, let me take a step back.
- 1:14There are lots of people who in fact, too many people are trying
- 1:17to start business conversations, trying to start sales
- 1:20conversations, trying to start marketing conversations and are
- 1:23doing it the wrong way because recently a real estate marketer
- 1:29worked up to me and this is not her real name.
- 1:31Anyway. So a real estate marketer walked
- 1:33up to you and she said, hello, my name is Funko here by me.
- 1:35I work for blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 1:37I just looked at the flyer and I told her, oh, sorry, I'm not
- 1:39interested. And she said OK Sir.
- 1:41And then she left. Now, there are a lot of you who
- 1:44are trying to start business conversations, trying to start
- 1:47sales conversations, trying to start marketing conversations.
- 1:49And this is how you guys are going about it.
- 1:51You walk up to someone and you say, hello, my name is Abubakar
- 1:58Oyetunji, and I work for this. And, you know, people just glaze
- 2:03over. Now, the problem with this
- 2:05approach is, number 1, you have an interruption.
- 2:08The person is doing something else.
- 2:09You're interrupting for me. I was trying to get some work
- 2:12done in the car because what I do is I take my keyboard with me
- 2:16all the time. I do all my work from my phone.
- 2:18So sometimes I'm in between one or two things.
- 2:20And I'm like, OK, I have maybe like 10 minutes.
- 2:23Let me just park here. And then Sharp.
- 2:25Sharp, you know, respond to this e-mail, maybe write this
- 2:27proposal. I'll call this person.
- 2:29That kind of thing. So I was in the middle of one of
- 2:32those prints when she walked up to me.
- 2:33Hello. My name is Funko.
- 2:34Yeah. About me.
- 2:35I work for diseases. I So sorry.
- 2:36I'm not interested. Now, the downside is you are not
- 2:39an interruption and nobody cares about you or your company name.
- 2:46So what we should do is we need to own that fact that yes,
- 2:49you're an interruption and nobody cares about you.
- 2:53Acknowledge those facts and then learn to cut to the chase
- 2:58because at least if you cut to the chase and if you get
- 3:01straight to the point and you find somebody who is interested
- 3:04in your UVP, that's your unique value proposition.
- 3:07Unique value proposition just means the reason why people do
- 3:10business with you. You're happiest customers, why
- 3:12do they work with you? If somebody's interested in your
- 3:15UVP, then just book a meeting so that you guys can talk later.
- 3:21Then you'll have a greater chance of closing the sale
- 3:24because like for real estate now that is a complex sale.
- 3:27There's no how you're going to close a real estate deal because
- 3:30you came into a car park, you saw somebody sitting in his car
- 3:33and you really think you're going to close a 10 million
- 3:36naira, 50 million naira, 100 million naira, 200 million naira
- 3:38deal just like that? No, no, it doesn't happen that
- 3:41way. So when some of you are trying
- 3:44to have these business conversations, these marketing
- 3:46conversations, go first with a problem based opener that says
- 3:50what your UVP is, your unique value proposition, the main
- 3:54reason why people do business with you.
- 3:56If the person is interested, don't take up too much of their
- 3:59time. Book a meeting so that you talk
- 4:01later. You go to their office, they
- 4:04will come to your office, you do a phone call, you do a Zoom
- 4:07call, you do a WhatsApp call, you do a whatever.
- 4:10There are lots of options that we have nowadays, but either
- 4:13ways show up, stay to your UVP in the form of a question, your
- 4:18unique value proposition, the main reason why people do
- 4:20business with you. Then try and book a meeting to
- 4:23talk later. That is the only way you're
- 4:25going to close a complex sale. If somebody's interested, good.
- 4:29That is the way you go about it. If someone is not interested,
- 4:33then you know, apologize and thank them for their time and
- 4:37offer them a flyer. Give them the flyer and then
- 4:39move on. By the way, this will be the
- 4:43most all, I put it the least anyway, let me just leave a
- 4:47chat. But that's just the main thing.
- 4:49So that's how problem based openers work.
- 4:52You're showing up to someone with a simple question around
- 4:55your unique value proposition. The reason why people do
- 4:58business with you. If the person is interested,
- 5:00book a meeting so that you can talk later, because you can't
- 5:03close the complex hill on the spot.
- 5:05If somebody is not interested in fact, therefore that time,
- 5:08apologise, drop your flyer and then you move on.
- 5:13So now let's let's flesh it out with an example for Funky or
- 5:16Yebami so you don't walk up and say hello, my name is Funky or
- 5:19Yebami and I work for Toyota Incorporations Limited XYZ and
- 5:24then you're not here, sorry, I'm not interested.
- 5:27Or the person just glazes over like they're not listening to
- 5:31you. Instead walk up to the person.
- 5:34I say good morning Sir. Have you thought of wanting your
- 5:36own home before and then you keep quiet and hear what the
- 5:39person has to say. Now, most people who buy real
- 5:43estate in my own opinion, shark, I'm not a real estate
- 5:46professional, but I think most people who buy real estate will
- 5:48either buy it for two reasons. Number one, they want to have
- 5:51their own house. You know, this is the whole, you
- 5:54know, this is Nigeria thing. Like I have my house.
- 5:57So don't either own their own house or don't want to use the
- 6:01land or use the building to make money.
- 6:04So if you're a real estate professional please let me know
- 6:07in the comments or you know, hook up with me later.
- 6:11In my own opinion, those are the main reason why people buy real
- 6:13estate, either to own their own house or to use the land or the
- 6:17house to make money. So your problem based opener
- 6:20should be around those two. Woke up to someone.
- 6:24Good morning Sir. Have you thought of owning your
- 6:25own home before? Keep quiet and hear what the
- 6:27person has to say. That will determine the way the
- 6:30conversation will go. Some people will still say sorry
- 6:33I'm not interested and the thing will end there.
- 6:38Some people might give you some kind of yes, like, well, you now
- 6:44know that OK, maybe there's room for small conversation and OK,
- 6:49let me not go into too many possibilities what might happen,
- 6:52But sure, the main thing is walk up with someone.
- 6:54Good morning, Sir. Have you thought of running your
- 6:55own home? If the person sounds like
- 6:59there's some room there for conversation, that is where you
- 7:02go into your unique value proposition even more.
- 7:04That is the benefits, the main reason why people do business
- 7:06with you. So good morning Sir.
- 7:07Have you thought of running your own home?
- 7:09Personal response. It looks like there's room.
- 7:12OK, so with XYZ mortgage and payment plan, it's possible to
- 7:15own your own home outright and you can get a duplex in central
- 7:19business area in three years. Is that something you'd like to
- 7:23learn more about, Sir? Then you had a response.
- 7:27If it's sounding possible. If it's sounding doable, then
- 7:30this is the kind of person that you now schedule a meeting with
- 7:33because you actually need to have a deeper conversation with
- 7:35this person. You actually need to know about
- 7:38them, their family situation, you know, how many kids where,
- 7:44where is the children's school? Where do they want to build the
- 7:46house? Is it the outskirts of town?
- 7:49Is it the central business area? Get a sense of the person's, how
- 7:57I put it, you want to feel the person out.
- 7:59You want to know whether this is somebody who is a high net worth
- 8:01individual or not. You know, there are lots of
- 8:06conversations that you need to have that you can't figure out,
- 8:08you know, on the spot. So this is the way that you
- 8:11should go about it. Good morning, Sir.
- 8:12Have you thought about owning your own home?
- 8:15Oh, OK. Actually, with my company, we
- 8:18have payment plans that make it possible so that you can own
- 8:21outright in three to five years. Is this something you'd like to
- 8:24learn more about, Sir? Because I can see that you're in
- 8:25the middle of something. OK.
- 8:28No problem, Sir. You say your office is in
- 8:32Maytama. OK, no problem.
- 8:35I can come and see you, Sir. Wednesday, 10:00.
- 8:37Would that be OK, Sir? OK, please.
- 8:40All right. No problem, Sir.
- 8:41So can I get your phone number? OK.
- 8:44Is this your WhatsApp number as well?
- 8:46OK, No problem, Sir. I will send you a WhatsApp
- 8:48message on Monday to remind you about our meeting on Tuesday.
- 8:52Would that be OK? OK.
- 8:53No problem, Sir. Thank you very much, Sir.
- 8:56My name is Funke Oyebami. I will send you a text message
- 8:59after this and then you leave. So that's a much more fruitful
- 9:02way to do the whole thing. So don't worry about stating
- 9:06your name. Your name will come up.
- 9:07Don't worry about the comp. You know you, you will discuss
- 9:09your company well and all the things your company offer.
- 9:12But showing up. Hello, my name is Sunka.
- 9:13Hereby me I work for. So you're just wasting time.
- 9:16You're an interruption. Cut straight to the point.
- 9:20I figured if they're interested. If they're interested, give them
- 9:23a brief scope of what your unique value proposition is.
- 9:26The main reason why people do business with you.
- 9:28It looks like they like it. Then the goal is schedule a
- 9:30meeting so it can start digging deep, finding out what they
- 9:34need, and you can start the toasting and the presentation
- 9:37and then the everything. That is how we give the greatest
- 9:39chance for closing a complex sale.
- 9:43Now if you're, if it's a simple sale like a simple commodity
- 9:46like pure water, then of course there's no problem.
- 9:49You show up pure water, you're an interruption, but no problem.
- 9:52It's a simple thing. It costs 50 now for one such
- 9:55that the person is either 30 or thirsty or not and the person
- 9:59will either buy or not and it's that simple.
- 10:01So you sell Piota, you sell cola, not you sell screen guard,
- 10:05you sell slippers, you sell ties cause in Abuja there are some
- 10:11people who walk around and they sell socks and ties.
- 10:13I think it's really interesting because I never saw it until I
- 10:15came to Abuja and some of the ties actually look quite good.
- 10:20That's for those of you who work in banks and in the civil
- 10:22service. So those kind of things, no
- 10:25problem, but for something complex, you're selling real
- 10:28estate, you know, show up problem based opener.
- 10:31What is your UVP? What are the main reason why
- 10:33people do business with you? Use that to start the
- 10:35conversation and see if they're interested.
- 10:37So now that example, we used ownership, home ownership.
- 10:41Have you thought of owning your own home?
- 10:44So another way it could be. Good morning, Sir.
- 10:47OK, I've read you, Sir. OK, good morning, ma'am.
- 10:49Have you thought of using land to make money before?
- 10:52And then question mark here what it is that they have to say.
- 10:56And then you wait, depending on what they say, one of the scopes
- 10:59you can follow up with later. I'll be like, oh, ma, with XYZ
- 11:02plans, you can buy rental property or acquire land to
- 11:09resell with only this percent down.
- 11:12Would you like to learn some more?
- 11:14And then here what it is that Madame has to say.
- 11:17And then the rest of the scope is still the same.
- 11:19So OK, Ma, no problem. But actually, before I can get
- 11:23into specifics of how my company will be able to help you, we
- 11:27need to have another conversation so I can need to
- 11:29learn some more about you. I need to learn like what's your
- 11:33investment horizon is? I want to need to know some more
- 11:38about the kind of properties you would like to acquire, you know,
- 11:41blah, blah, blah. So my, it would work best if we
- 11:44can have a meeting later on so we can talk some more.
- 11:47Would you are available for so, so, so, so, so, so, so you pick
- 11:50a date, you set a time, we agree if you coming to yours or are
- 11:54you going over to hers? In my own opinion, though, we
- 11:57should try and reduce the amount of friction.
- 12:00So I always recommend going over to their own place.
- 12:03If you're telling them that you should come to your own office,
- 12:05you're giving them homework and the more homework that you put
- 12:08in the process, the more obstacles that you're putting in
- 12:11your ability to close the sale. That is what I would recommend.
- 12:15So in my own opinion, you go to them, especially since we're one
- 12:18of these things click, your Commission is going to be big.
- 12:21Even if it is, I mean, think about it, if it's a 10
- 12:25millionaire or something and in your real estate firm, they
- 12:29give, they pay you guys another 5% or 10% on 5% or 10 million.
- 12:34Is that big? So I'm not good at math, so I
- 12:37can't figure that out now, but I'm just saying that when two or
- 12:40three of these things click, it's worth it.
- 12:42So going over to the office is not going to be a problem.
- 12:45But summary, Sha, this is how lots of you should be starting
- 12:50your sales conversations, your business conversations and your
- 12:52marketing conversations. You can walk it up and say,
- 12:55hello, my name is Funke or here by me and I work for Horizon
- 13:00Insurance. Just figure out the UPV unique
- 13:03value proposition. Sorry.
- 13:04Yeah, UVP, the main reason why people do business with you.
- 13:07So insurance, insurance, insurance.
- 13:10OK, Now people are selling selling insurance products that
- 13:12have a benefit of paying children's school fees.
- 13:16So you can walk up to that person and say, hello, Ma, let
- 13:20me see. OK, I need to give this one some
- 13:23more thought. Let's see.
- 13:25OK, You walk up to the high in the car.
- 13:28Maybe you see the baby seat in the background.
- 13:29OK, Yes, yes, yes. So you see the baby seat at the
- 13:32back of the car. So you now know, OK, there's
- 13:33room. I have some young children or
- 13:36something like that. Now with insurance, we sell lots
- 13:38of products. So you can walk up to her and
- 13:40say, oh, hello, mine is your car insured?
- 13:43That's not a bad way to start the conversation.
- 13:45Of course, she says her car is insured.
- 13:47You can now say, oh, Madam, do you know that we now have
- 13:49insurance products that make it easier for people to pay school
- 13:52fees right from primary school all the way to university and
- 13:56then keep quiet. I hear what it is she has to
- 13:57say. Some people say, no, I'm not
- 13:59interested. But that's some people who say
- 14:01insurance products paying school fees.
- 14:04What's the correlation? How does that work?
- 14:06You see that now give you some room to now talk to someone, say
- 14:08Oh yes, ma'am with Horizon Insurance, you know, this is his
- 14:11plan, that that plan, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 14:14But I can see you in the middle of something.
- 14:16This is something we'd actually have to talk to some more.
- 14:18I can actually come over to your office next week, Friday, 10:00
- 14:21AM with some material so that we can talk through a couple of
- 14:24things. Would you be interested with
- 14:25that man? And then you fix the meeting and
- 14:29that's it. The goal is to go over to
- 14:31Madame's office to now start getting into in depth
- 14:35conversations. You know, who is she?
- 14:38What kind of plan would she be interested in?
- 14:40What age is the baby? If she's considering these kinds
- 14:44of plans, you know, how long is it going to be?
- 14:46Is it a notary school into secondary school?
- 14:49Is it primary school into university?
- 14:51Get a sense of the vision that she has for her children.
- 14:53You know, for those people who want the children to school
- 14:55abroad, you know, you determine the kind of plans that you can
- 14:58show. So anyway, hope you guys are
- 15:01getting a gist about how we can use problem based openers to
- 15:09start the conversation. Basically a problem based opener
- 15:12just means what are the problems that you solve?
- 15:14Use that to open the conversation.
- 15:16All that stuff of your name and who you work for.
- 15:19Don't worry it will come out later on.
- 15:21But hello, my name is Fuku here by me.
- 15:23I work for too long. You're wasting valuable time.
- 15:26You're an interruption. Acknowledge it.
- 15:28Get straight to the point. What are the main reasons why
- 15:31people do business with you? State that first.
- 15:34Most of our happy customers do business well because da, da,
- 15:36da, da, da. Is this something you're
- 15:38interested in? I hear what they have to say.
- 15:40If they say no, not interested, move on.
- 15:41Look for somebody else. If they're interested, then book
- 15:44an appointment so that you can go over to their home or to
- 15:48their office. OK, Let me say to the office to
- 15:49be on the safe space because nowadays, now that people are
- 15:52chopping up people in their houses and putting them in the
- 15:54freezer, it's better to go to the office.
- 15:56So go to the office, you know, public place so that you know
- 15:59you, you're safe. Go over to the office and then
- 16:01start having detailed qualification and discovery
- 16:06conversations to know who they are, what they're about, what's
- 16:09the vision, where they're heading to, what's the plan,
- 16:11what are their likes, what are their dislikes and then do it
- 16:13like that. So the goal basically show up.
- 16:15Is this person interested or not?
- 16:17OK, they're interested. From there, book a meeting.
- 16:19At the meeting qualify after qualification, you'll be able to
- 16:21now make your proposal or your presentation and hopefully that
- 16:25should include your chances of closing the deal.
- 16:27So that's all for today. Thank you very much for
- 16:30listening. If you'd love to connect for a
- 16:31strategy session, a business audit, or you have questions you
- 16:35want me to answer, the number to reach out to me on is
- 16:3708064662140. The country code is +234.
- 16:43That's my WhatsApp number as well.
- 16:46Then connect with me on LinkedIn.
- 16:48The name to look for is Tavishima Ayede.
- 16:50I also have a YouTube channel of the same name.
- 16:53Over 1070 videos there right now.
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- 17:01It's just the podcast that I put the audio there.
- 17:03So if you look there, you're not going to see my face except if
- 17:05you scroll to the beginning back when I was still on YouTube and
- 17:09on TikTok. So then I used to do TikTok.
- 17:14I'll be what they call it again. Is it Facebook, Facebook real or
- 17:17be Instagram, Instagram real and then TikTok something.
- 17:20So yeah, those videos are there so you can go have a look at
- 17:22them. Then you get to see my face.
- 17:25All right, So thanks for your time and attention.
- 17:26I'll catch you guys at the next episode.