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- 0:01Today on the podcast, we're going to be looking at a few
- 0:04ideas around marketing. And the reason why is because I
- 0:08received a text message while I was on the radio show.
- 0:13I think that was about two weeks ago, where someone wanted to
- 0:16know how you can easily market a fish farm.
- 0:20And the person wanted to know my opinions about that kind of
- 0:24business. So again, the fellow sent me a
- 0:27message while I was on the air. How do you easily market a fish
- 0:31farm? And then the second question,
- 0:33what do you think about this kind of business?
- 0:35So I already tackled that question over the air, but I
- 0:39figured that there's some important issues that have been
- 0:43thrown up by these, by the question.
- 0:45So I'm coming over here on the podcast so we can look at some
- 0:48of those today. Now, if this is the first time
- 0:51of listening to the podcast and you love these sorts of issues,
- 0:55you know, sales, marketing, looking for clients, you know,
- 0:59all those sorts of things, then subscribe to the podcast because
- 1:02this is what we do almost every single day over here on the
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- 1:21about over here on the podcast every single day.
- 1:24Then my name is Tavishima Ayede. I'm the host of the podcast.
- 1:28And if you would love to connect with me by calling, sending a
- 1:32text message or a WhatsApp message, you can do so on
- 1:3508064662140. And don't worry, that's my
- 1:43personal number. It's not the number of the radio
- 1:46show. So you send a message there,
- 1:47you're going to get directly through to me.
- 1:51Now, Speaking of people who have try to get through to me and who
- 1:55have been sending me messages, there are a couple of people
- 1:58that I want to call out. And this is not an exhaustive
- 2:02list. Sorry, I didn't say call out.
- 2:03I didn't mean call out, I meant shout out.
- 2:06So I'd like to shout them out. And this is not an exhaustive
- 2:09list. So there are some people who
- 2:11have reached out to me in the last couple of days because at
- 2:15the time of this recording, this is currently the 4th of December
- 2:192025. And as is usual, Spotify likes
- 2:24to send people stats on their podcast listening history.
- 2:30So Spotify has been letting people know that OK, these are
- 2:33the number of podcasts that you listen to.
- 2:35This is the top one, this is the top three, this is the top five.
- 2:38You know, those sorts of things and those of you who listen to
- 2:42the podcast and who get value from the podcast have been very,
- 2:45very gracious and have been reaching out to me to let me
- 2:48know that, oh, end of year Spotify wrapped, my stats are
- 2:52in. I'm a top 1% listener of your
- 2:54podcast. I'm a top 2%.
- 2:56I'm a top 5% listener. You know, your podcast is in the
- 2:59top five, in the top three, in the top ten of podcast that I
- 3:02listen to. And I have been very, very,
- 3:05very, very grateful. And a little bit kind of
- 3:09overwhelmed is not the right word.
- 3:10But Shah, I'm very, very grateful.
- 3:13I won't lie, very, very grateful.
- 3:15So for those of you who have been taking screenshots, you
- 3:17know, even though my podcast is #3 I'm grateful and I'm very
- 3:21honored that you have a list of 10 podcasts that you listen to
- 3:24regularly. And my own is number #3 I'm very
- 3:27grateful for those of you who sent me the screenshots.
- 3:30And you know, you listen to five, you listen to 10 podcasts.
- 3:34My own podcast is number one. I'm very, very grateful for
- 3:38those of you who sent the screenshots.
- 3:39You listen to 10 podcasts. My own is number 5.
- 3:41I'm very, very grateful whether my podcast is #1 on your list #2
- 3:46#3 #5 #10 I'm very grateful. And I'm honored that in 2025
- 3:55that there are some of you who have decided that I'm going to
- 3:58accompany you on your business growth journey and on your
- 4:02personal development journey. And you have been listening to
- 4:04the podcast steady, if not every day, you know, every week
- 4:09listening. Thank you very much.
- 4:12The growth of the podcast is down to people like you who
- 4:15listen, who talk about it, who teach about it, who share it in
- 4:18your groups or things like that. So thank you very much for
- 4:21growing the show. So with that, I would like to
- 4:25give a shout out to Omar, Omar Bolahan.
- 4:28Omar Bolahan Yusuf. Sorry, I still can't pronounce
- 4:32this your name because you know, back when I was in in school, we
- 4:36had Bolahan, but I didn't know that the full name is Omar
- 4:39Bolahan. So Omar Bolahan Yusuf, shout out
- 4:43to you. Shout out to Fevor Afuyeh.
- 4:46Shout out to Chime, Chi, Boise, Fevor.
- 4:50Also shout out to Benga or Laurel Fermi.
- 4:54Also shout out to vibe King David.
- 4:57He's a crypto and Web 3 enthusiast.
- 5:00I was very, very happy to see that I'm still on your list
- 5:04because I know that I take shots at you guys a lot.
- 5:07You know, you web 3 crypto people.
- 5:09I take shots at you guys a lot. You know, it's not because I'm,
- 5:12I believe you will have 419 or anything, you know, just
- 5:14brotherly love. You know, I want you guys to
- 5:17improve and also because, you know, for nascent technologies
- 5:22like this in Niger, it'll take a while before it catches on.
- 5:27And I think, you know, those of you who are players in this
- 5:29space, you ought to carry yourselves better and do a
- 5:33better job of evangelizing these new technologies because these
- 5:36technologies are the wave of the future.
- 5:38So that's one of the reasons why when I see any of you crypto
- 5:41people, web three people, you know, people are not doing
- 5:44things right or you know, you do something and it's likely to
- 5:47cause confusion or misconceptions.
- 5:49That's the reason why I call you guys out.
- 5:51So vibe King David, thank you very much for still keeping me
- 5:54on your list. And then also shout out to
- 5:56Emmanuel or Jeb Muller. So there are other people.
- 6:02And if I didn't call your name here, no Vex because to be
- 6:07honest, when you guys started sending in the message, the
- 6:09first thing that caught my mind was I was just tripped and
- 6:13overwhelmed. So it was a joy as I was
- 6:15responding to all of you. You didn't click now.
- 6:18Oh, you know what, I should be writing down their names so that
- 6:21at the next podcast episode, I will also give you guys a shout
- 6:23out as well. So, so far I've responded to
- 6:27everybody, but I love you guys and you girls.
- 6:29Thank you very much for supporting the podcast.
- 6:32Now let's get straight back to how to easily market a fish farm
- 6:37and what I think about this kind of business.
- 6:40So now usually when people ask me this kind of question, one of
- 6:43the thing that is at the back of their mind, because sometimes
- 6:48there's a difference between the question that somebody is asking
- 6:51and then the thing that is actually choking them.
- 6:54The thing that actually want to know.
- 6:56When people want to know, what do you think about this kind of
- 6:59business stylishly? The question that they ask him
- 7:01is, is this a good business or is this a bad business?
- 7:04This is a question that I get a lot.
- 7:07Is this business good? Is this business bad crypto?
- 7:10Is this good or bad? Fish farming Is this good or bad
- 7:15Charcoal export is this thing good or bad?
- 7:18Mining for gold is this thing good or bad?
- 7:21These are concrete questions that I've been I have people
- 7:24have asked me podcasting is this thing good or bad?
- 7:31I would beg you people listening to the podcast to stop thinking
- 7:34in such binary terms. Good or bad business.
- 7:37Now, there's a sense in which some businesses are bad because
- 7:39they are unethical. So human trafficking, definitely
- 7:44bad business. Hard drugs, narcotics,
- 7:47definitely bad business. Except for those of you who are
- 7:51in the USA, where is on places, IBO, marijuana, Mary J, you
- 7:57know, all those things, they've legalized it now.
- 7:59So if you're in those places, you know, enjoy, you know,
- 8:03spliff up, light up, you know, is now legal.
- 8:06Boy, in Niger, IBO is still bad business.
- 8:10So in an ethical sense, yes, you can say some businesses are bad.
- 8:14But outside of that, whether a business is a good or a bad
- 8:16business will depend. It will depend.
- 8:21It will depend on how much knowledge you have in that
- 8:23space. That is what will make the
- 8:25business good or bad. That is what will make the
- 8:28business risky or not risky or not risky.
- 8:33Because look at this thing now, fish farming, if you take a
- 8:37novice like me, Mr. Mid, we are not the chop fish, absolute
- 8:41novice. You come and put me in in charge
- 8:43of a fish farm. See, I don't have to be a
- 8:46prophet to tell you that if you put me in charge of your fish
- 8:48farm today, next week all your fishes would die.
- 8:51They'll be dead. Not because of malice or beef.
- 8:56It's just that I have no knowledge when it comes to fish.
- 8:59Not in zero. You put me in charge of that
- 9:02business, all the fish would die.
- 9:05They will surely die. Your business will crash.
- 9:09Because I have no knowledge when it comes to fisheries, animal
- 9:14husbandry, I have 0 knowledge, 0.
- 9:20I have no knowledge. I have no specialization.
- 9:23I have no specialized skills when it comes to these sorts of
- 9:25things. Then I don't have access to
- 9:28Technical Support services to make this thing work.
- 9:32Feed What do I know about fish feeding?
- 9:35Where will I find fish feeding? If the fish are not eating well,
- 9:38how would I know? Veterinary services Do you even
- 9:41have veterinary services in Nigeria?
- 9:43Obviously we do, but ordinary people like me, do I know where
- 9:45to find them? Then water health.
- 9:49What is the pH level of the water?
- 9:51Is the water alkaline? Is it base?
- 9:54Is it acidic? I have no idea.
- 9:56How do we keep the water heavy? I say heavy.
- 9:59Healthy. I have absolutely no idea.
- 10:02These are the kind of things that make a business risky or
- 10:06not, good or not. It depends.
- 10:09What is your knowledge base? Have you gone to go and learn
- 10:12work? Do you have the specialized
- 10:15skills? Do you have access to the
- 10:16Technical Support services that are necessary to make this kind
- 10:19of thing work? These are the things that
- 10:21determine whether a business is good or is bad.
- 10:24So, so excuse me, I'm not saying don't send me questions, you
- 10:29know, keep sending me questions. But honestly, this kind of
- 10:32question, yeah, any excuse me? All businesses are good.
- 10:37Also, all businesses are bad. It all depends on you.
- 10:41How much knowledge do you have? That is what will determine the
- 10:43goodness of the business or the level of the risk.
- 10:46So when I was answering the question live on the air, what I
- 10:49said was this. The example I gave was refinery.
- 10:52Now, I went to school, I studied law, I studied oil and gas law.
- 10:56But you have to know that all of that is just a theory on a
- 10:59theoretical level, because if I'm running a refinery, what
- 11:02we're going to do is we're going to be, it's mostly like a
- 11:08chemistry something chemistry, project management, you know,
- 11:10all those sorts of things. We're taking LNG, Abby, Is it
- 11:14LNG liquefied? No, that's liquefied natural gas
- 11:17anyway, Shout. We're getting all the good stuff
- 11:19from the ground and then we're having to process it so that
- 11:22from there we can derive kerosene, derive petrol, derive
- 11:25all of that. The thing is, I did not learn
- 11:29any of that in school. I don't have that knowledge.
- 11:34I don't know anybody who has that knowledge.
- 11:36Let's remove capital now. Let's say I have the capital on
- 11:39ground for refinery. The fact that I don't have the
- 11:43knowledge, I don't have the specialized skills and I don't
- 11:47have access to the Technical Support services that are
- 11:49necessary to make a refinery work.
- 11:53That would mean that refinery business is a bad business for
- 11:57me to enter unless I can clear all these gaps.
- 12:02Hope you guys are feeling me. I hope you're we're we're we're
- 12:04together. Hope we're flowing.
- 12:07So for somebody like Dangote who does not have the knowledge,
- 12:12however, he can afford to pay people with the specialized
- 12:15skills and he knows where to get access to the Technical Support
- 12:18services and he can pay consultant to do what's it
- 12:22called, you know, all the stuff that needs to be done.
- 12:25In that case, it might not be such a risky enterprise for him
- 12:30because he has done something to mitigate the risks that are
- 12:34involved. And so therefore it is a good
- 12:37business for him. But there are some people that
- 12:40you try yourself, an entire refinery business, you will lose
- 12:45money and you will cry the tears that you will cry.
- 12:51There's no answer for you but Sha, what I'm just trying to say
- 12:54is every business is good. Also every business is bad.
- 12:59It all depends on you. Do you have knowledge?
- 13:01Do you have the skills that are required or can you get access
- 13:05to the knowledge or to the skills that are required to make
- 13:08these things work? So when our people come to meet
- 13:10me about fish farm or any, any kind of animal husbandry, my
- 13:14advice is always go and learn work first.
- 13:17Go and learn work. Don't go and buy 200 heads of
- 13:23chicken and then you say, let me test it.
- 13:26Don't test it out. Go and learn the work first from
- 13:29somebody who knows before you go and buy 200 heads of chicken.
- 13:34I have seen it happen in my own family.
- 13:39I have seen my relatives make this kind of mistake.
- 13:42You think, oh, it's not just chicken.
- 13:46After all, people rear chickens everywhere, don't they?
- 13:48You go and buy 200 heads, I'm telling you two weeks, all those
- 13:54chickens will die, your money will be lost.
- 14:00You now say, oh, chicken is bad business.
- 14:03It is not that it is bad business.
- 14:05You were not prepared for that business.
- 14:08So when everybody reaches out to me, fish farm, chicken, cassava,
- 14:14my first advice is always go and learn work first.
- 14:17When you learn the work, you're better prepared.
- 14:21Then the next question, how can you easily market a fish farm?
- 14:25I didn't go into the details because I wanted to pass across
- 14:29one strong message first because I get this question a lot.
- 14:36There is no easy way to market anything.
- 14:40It is not possible to easily market anything.
- 14:44Hope you guys can hear me. There is no easy way to market
- 14:49anything and it is not possible to market anything easily.
- 14:55So stop looking for an easy way to market.
- 14:59The reason why is because no matter the form of marketing
- 15:02that you come across, you will need either time or money.
- 15:08As some people say, labour as you need time, you need labour,
- 15:11you need money. Labour means, and I put you
- 15:14would reform activity, you do one or two things.
- 15:17So you need either time or money.
- 15:19That's when I look at it and I say pick one.
- 15:22Some people who say it is time, labor or money and they will say
- 15:25pick 2, but you can see that there is no way that you sit
- 15:31down and easily market something.
- 15:34You either invest plenty of money or you will invest plenty
- 15:38of time and labor. You will either spend plenty or
- 15:46you will do plenty of waka. Up and down, driving up and
- 15:50down, meeting up and down, phone call up and down.
- 15:55But you have to spend plenty of something.
- 15:59You need either money or you need waka.
- 16:05You need effort, you need leg of these bends.
- 16:08You will invest something. But there is no easy way to
- 16:10market anything. So stop searching for the easy
- 16:14way, even if it's only online advertising that you're going to
- 16:22do, I don't know, 55K every day, maybe three days a week or
- 16:28something And you do it for one month, you know, that's your
- 16:30budget or you go and print Flyers or you're going to be
- 16:34prospecting be going from OK, in this case, fish farm.
- 16:39So you'd be supplying to, we'd be supplying to yourself if it's
- 16:45a fish farm, OK, all these enjoyment spots in Abuja, all
- 16:49these gardens, all these recreational centers.
- 16:52So even if it means walking from recreational, recreational
- 16:55center to recreational center, all these gardens where they do
- 17:04what's it called? Pepper soup?
- 17:05We fish catfish pepper soup. But there is no easy way at all.
- 17:13So for whatever business you're involved in, before you send me
- 17:16that message or you send anybody else that message, just know
- 17:21that there is no easy way to market anything.
- 17:24And I can assure you this, if anybody tells you, come and buy
- 17:28my coaching package for the easy stress free marketing formula
- 17:36that will triple X your something, something, something,
- 17:40I'm telling you already that nothing is is going to fail.
- 17:44It's not going to work. Even if it works, it's not going
- 17:46to work to the level of your expectation.
- 17:49So don't even entertain conversations with anybody who
- 17:52is promising you an easy marketing system.
- 17:54Something, something something don't.
- 18:00Now there's one qualifier, though, when it comes to this
- 18:02whole thing of easy marketing, the only way that you can kind
- 18:06of market your products or your service and it won't seem like
- 18:10it's too much work is if you pick a form of sales or a form
- 18:16of marketing that you already have a personal affinity to.
- 18:21That means you already like these kinds of things.
- 18:24So that's the example I gave on the air.
- 18:26So like for me, right, OK, I won't say I'm, I'm talented, but
- 18:34The thing is when it comes to creating audio content, I don't
- 18:36suck. So when I went first on radio,
- 18:41because my mom was, she started off with NTA and then my father
- 18:46started off with Radio Nigeria. Well, but he's late.
- 18:48He's no more. And so, you know, I come from a
- 18:53media household. So when I started in the
- 18:55beginning, of course, I wanted to know mom's opinion.
- 18:58And we discussed technically what I was getting right, what I
- 19:01was getting wrong. And then I asked our assessment.
- 19:04I was like, OK, am I terrible at this?
- 19:06She said, oh, no, no, no, no, no, you don't suck.
- 19:08You're on the way. So I won't say I'm talented on
- 19:12being on the radio and being on podcast.
- 19:14But The thing is, I don't suck. I'm not terrible.
- 19:18I'm not crap. I seem to have an affinity for
- 19:22these sorts of things. Plus, I like talking to
- 19:25strangers. So when I'm on the radio and
- 19:27total strangers are calling, asking me questions, that thing
- 19:29does not give me hypertension. There are some people that will
- 19:32just die. That random stranger you didn't
- 19:35prove, you didn't prove the caller before they call.
- 19:38People who just be calling you, blasting you question up and
- 19:40down. There's some people that thought
- 19:41of that and we give them hypertension, we give them a
- 19:43stroke. But for me, talking to
- 19:47strangers, not a problem. Phone calls, not a problem,
- 19:51audio, not a problem. So in a way you can say that I
- 19:56am marketing by consultancy services in a way that is easy
- 20:02in a way. So it's not as if it's easy
- 20:07because I still have to put in the reps.
- 20:10The radio show started in 2025. Every week I've been at the
- 20:14radio station, I think twice we've been off the air.
- 20:17But even for the days when we're off the air, I was still at the
- 20:20radio station. Just in case they fixed the
- 20:23something. Let me just quickly, you know,
- 20:25hop on air and not disappoint my audiences.
- 20:28So 2025, I've been at radio station every single week.
- 20:33The podcast, been doing this over five years, currently over
- 20:381300 episodes. So this is your first time
- 20:41listening to the podcast. When you're done, just, you
- 20:45know, stay here in the feed and keep looking.
- 20:47You'll definitely find more and more and more answers to
- 20:51questions and things that will interest you and that you'll
- 20:53find valuable because I have over 1300 of these episodes.
- 20:58So in a sense, you can say it's kind of easy, but you can see
- 21:01that I still put in the work. I'm on the microphone now.
- 21:05Next week Tuesday, I will be on the microphone at the the studio
- 21:12for the radio show. So in a sense, yeah, you can say
- 21:17you can find an easy marketing way.
- 21:19That is, if you pick something that you already seem to have
- 21:22some some talent, some affinity. Yeah.
- 21:29In that sense, maybe you can find something easy.
- 21:31So let's say you like, let's say you're a female.
- 21:34You like putting on makeup and you like recording videos and
- 21:38you're in the beauty and skin care space.
- 21:39Oh, OK. Yeah, in that case.
- 21:41And yeah, you find something that is not too bad because you
- 21:44really like painting your face every day and you really like
- 21:46being on video every day. But of course, what will be
- 21:51required to breakthrough the amount of noise that is on the
- 21:54Internet? Honestly speaking, you'll
- 21:57probably have to be doing that two or three times a week.
- 21:59So excuse me, you can't make one video a week and say you're
- 22:03marketing yourself, My dear, you haven't started.
- 22:07There's a lot of stuff going on on the Internet.
- 22:10I'm dropping podcast episodes almost every other day.
- 22:14There is just that is happening every other day on social media.
- 22:19Politicians involved in scandals every single day.
- 22:23What else, Big Brother? All these TV shows, you know,
- 22:26they're doing stuff. The Internet is flooded with
- 22:29activity. You cannot tell me that you want
- 22:32to breakthrough in your business and you say you're only
- 22:35producing one piece of content a week.
- 22:37You have not started. Your content will be drowned out
- 22:40by all the noise that is there. Anyway, it's been 20 minutes, so
- 22:49let me not stress this too much. But bottom line, summary of what
- 22:52I was trying to say, whether a business is good or bad, it's
- 22:55not about the business itself. It depends on you.
- 22:58So for those of you who have been wondering charcoal
- 23:00business, is it good or bad? It is both good and it's both
- 23:04bad. It depends on you.
- 23:05How much knowledge do you have about the charcoal industry?
- 23:08Have you gone to go and learn? Have you taken any courses?
- 23:10Do you have any specialized skills?
- 23:12Do you know where you can get access to Technical Support
- 23:15services to make this thing work?
- 23:18You know, do you have a freight forwarder in Lagos?
- 23:23So it depends. And for those of you who have
- 23:25been asking, oh, that's our state, there's some people who
- 23:28are doing mining in Nassau state.
- 23:30Is it good or is it bad? Remember, I'm talking about
- 23:32things in a legal and ethical construct.
- 23:37So there's some businesses that are illegal.
- 23:39Should you be putting your hand there?
- 23:41So for those of you who are asking about mining gold in
- 23:43Nassau, mining gold in Nassau, is it legal?
- 23:47Yet? You yourself that is asking this
- 23:50question, you know that all the people that are mining this
- 23:53thing in Nassau state, you know that they're doing this thing
- 23:55illegally. You know it is illegal.
- 24:03Doesn't sound like a good business to you.
- 24:06Business that you can't do with your two eyes open.
- 24:11Sorry. What I'm saying is basically
- 24:13what I meant is business that you can do with Peace of Mind
- 24:18that whenever you're doing the business, you always have to
- 24:20shine your eyes and be looking left and right.
- 24:22Are they coming from me? Are they coming from me?
- 24:24Where are they coming from? So those of you who are talking
- 24:30about mining in Nassau, you answer that question yourself,
- 24:33whether it's good or bad business.
- 24:36But at the end of the day, how much knowledge do you have?
- 24:40So for some of these things, go and learn first.
- 24:44Take a course, pay attention. YouTube videos, network, attend
- 24:49Chamber of Commerce, be introduced to somebody who is
- 24:52already in the business, offer to work for free.
- 24:56Intern, shadow them, let them cover your transportation costs.
- 25:00Learn one or two things. No knowledge gained is is
- 25:05wasted. At the end of the day.
- 25:08If you shadow somebody for free for two weeks, at least you will
- 25:13know at the end of the day whether this is a business I
- 25:15like or this is a business I don't like.
- 25:17It is good that you shadow somebody for free and after two
- 25:20weeks you learn that I want nothing to do with this
- 25:23business. Now for you to actually start,
- 25:25you're ill prepared. You invest serious money into
- 25:27it. You go and drop like one M and
- 25:30after two weeks you now lose 1 M.
- 25:33Anyway, let me wrap it up. So yeah, that's it.
- 25:36And then for those of you looking for easy ways to market,
- 25:38there's no easy way at all. You don't need time or any
- 25:42money. So if you have money, drop that
- 25:44money market. If you don't have money, oh boy,
- 25:47roll up your sleeves. It's time to get to work.
- 25:50If it is content, begin to create content.
- 25:52If it is prospecting, Oh yeah, start visiting people, start
- 25:55calling people, start getting introductions.
- 25:59Well, there's no easy way to market.
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