Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Unlock Your Potential: Why Sales Training Matters & The Perils of Rushing Automation
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- 0:00Hello, and welcome to the show. Today's episode is being
- 0:04recorded at my desk, and it's raining outside.
- 0:07There also isn't any light. So yeah, we have the investor
- 0:10going on, but all my neighbors are running their generators.
- 0:13And then, of course, there's rain.
- 0:14And then the whole family is home.
- 0:16So I expect to hear some interruptions in the background.
- 0:19The goal of this show is free business education.
- 0:22So please, if you like what you hear, share, promote and talk
- 0:25about the podcast so that people in Nigeria and abroad can
- 0:29benefit from the questions that we tackle.
- 0:31And if you in particular have any sales or marketing
- 0:34questions, you can call SMS or WhatsApp me on 08064662140.
- 0:40The country code is +234. Today on the show, depending on
- 0:46how terrible the weather is or not, we I'll see if we can
- 0:49tackle 2 questions or rather two issues now.
- 0:54The first one is this, I'm supposed to have been running a
- 0:58series of trainings, or rather I am currently running a series of
- 1:03trainings for a client of mine who is based in Benin City.
- 1:06He has a gadget store he's thinking of running, opening a
- 1:09second location. And that is where we started our
- 1:13engagement together. And my professional advice was,
- 1:15yes, it's OK to open a second location.
- 1:18But before you do, or rather before we do that, there are a
- 1:21couple of things that we need to iron out.
- 1:23First, we need to have standard operating procedures regarding
- 1:26sales and a bunch of other stuff so that these things will serve
- 1:29as the template for the second location when we open that.
- 1:33So that's where we currently are.
- 1:35I'm talking with him and his sales associates.
- 1:37I'm trying to narrow down a couple of things, you know,
- 1:41just, you know, tidy up their sales process, make it more
- 1:46efficient where it can be. But the most important thing is
- 1:49to put it on paper so that by the time you start location 2,
- 1:52location 3, location 4, there is this a steady playbook that
- 1:56everybody can run from. So if you're in this kind of
- 1:59business and you admire what other people have built, like
- 2:02slot for instance, because I know that slot is in Lagos,
- 2:05it's, it's in Abuja, where else? Makudi, Kaduna, Port Arcord,
- 2:09like it's, it's all over the place.
- 2:11I don't know if they are nationwide in all 36 states, but
- 2:15if you admire the thing that people like that have built,
- 2:17this is precisely how they do it.
- 2:19Or the defunct Mr. Biggs, before Mr. Biggs went away, this is
- 2:24precisely how Mr. Biggs did it. So you establish the template
- 2:28first in a few locations, and then you scale it out and
- 2:31multiply it across a couple of locations.
- 2:36OK. So unfortunately, one of those
- 2:39meetings that we agreed upon, some people didn't turn up on
- 2:43time and it's not in my usual character, but I had to give
- 2:46them some strong words. And I'm going to share some of
- 2:49those strong words with you guys today just in case there's some
- 2:53of you who are listening to the podcast right now and you
- 2:55haven't quite got the memo. Like you don't really understand
- 2:58what is going on when an employer says, you know what, we
- 3:01need to do some training. I'm bringing an outside
- 3:03consultant, I'm bringing an outside resource person.
- 3:06And this is what we have to do. You know, some of you, it hasn't
- 3:09quite clicked yet. What's what's going on?
- 3:13So that's the reason why I'm making today's episode.
- 3:15So one moment I'll be right back and then we'll continue.
- 3:21OK, I'm back. Sorry about that.
- 3:23Like I mentioned, it's raining over here in Abuja.
- 3:25And in fact, the rains have been long, we've been long awaiting
- 3:30the rains in Abuja because I won't like the dry season has
- 3:33been has been killing somebody. So it's nice that the rains are
- 3:36finally here. Anyway.
- 3:38So now that the rains are in full blast, I just wanted to
- 3:40make sure that, you know, the kids had closed all the windows.
- 3:43You know, that'd not be that. I stand up here for the podcast
- 3:45recording and then I see that, OK, the children's room is
- 3:48flooded or that kind of thing. All right.
- 3:51OK, so like I was saying, now me and this guy, this is how I was
- 3:56supposed to work with the store. We set up a bunch of trainings
- 3:59and then we set up some trainings.
- 4:01And then some of the sales people do not show.
- 4:03And usually I like to keep things cool, but I had to give
- 4:06them a talking to. And I suspect that there's some
- 4:08of you here who are listening to the show.
- 4:10Who you know, your guy has tried to arrange one or two things in
- 4:13the office and you're like, I beg, you know, as far as you're
- 4:16concerned, you know now for them pockets and you just, you're
- 4:21just doing your own thing, like you can't be bothered.
- 4:24So I had to address the team and let them know about a bunch of
- 4:27stuff. Number one, we're all sales
- 4:29people. So me, the trainer, the
- 4:33facilitator, the consultant, whatever it is you call, you
- 4:36call me. I'm a salesperson because I have
- 4:38to move my own market. The person who owns the
- 4:40business, they're a salesperson too because they have to move
- 4:44markets, they have to sell gadgets.
- 4:46Then those of you who are hired to be sales associates, you also
- 4:50sales people because you have merchandise that you have to
- 4:53move. And I pointed out to them that
- 4:58normally for Niger sales people, I haven't met any career sales
- 5:03person in Abuja because typically if somebody is good at
- 5:08sales, good at this job, they might start in one place but
- 5:11ultimately they end up running their own thing.
- 5:14They end up doing their own thing.
- 5:17And I haven't met any employer who has been talking to me about
- 5:21doing some consultation with their staff or stuff like that.
- 5:24I haven't met any of them who is in denial or who doesn't know
- 5:28that our sales people have one or two things that they're doing
- 5:30outside. So if you're listening to this
- 5:32show right now, you're a salesperson working for someone
- 5:35your guy knows. Yeah, you're trying to hide it,
- 5:37but we all know. So The thing is when we hook up
- 5:42these kinds of things, it actually is in your own best
- 5:45interest to pay attention and get the most of what you can now
- 5:50because by the time you leave your guy and you want to now go
- 5:53full 100% into this your side hustle.
- 5:57It is from these trainings that your guy is organizing and that
- 6:01resource people like me are training you or other resource
- 6:04people. It is there that you will get
- 6:06the information that you need to blow.
- 6:09Now yoga knows you're going to leave one day, but they're still
- 6:14willing to put money and time into training you properly
- 6:17because they know that even though it's a temporary marriage
- 6:22and you're here for now, at least they want you to be
- 6:25skilled up for now to make their business move forward.
- 6:29So the first thing that we have to learn as salespeople is we
- 6:35need to take advantage of all these opportunities that come up
- 6:39for professional development or for personal development,
- 6:44especially when we are not the ones who are paying for it.
- 6:47So whatever free training you get, rush it.
- 6:52All these free podcasts, listen, it doesn't have to be mine.
- 6:56Take advantage of it. If your guy is paying for
- 6:58training, go. There are some people in the
- 7:04civil service, for instance, that the office will arrange
- 7:08training. Maybe the train is based in
- 7:10America or based in the UK or something.
- 7:13They will land. Instead of going for training,
- 7:15they'll be going for shopping. It is themselves that they are
- 7:18deceiving. If the federal government has
- 7:20already paid for this training, I'm not saying you should not do
- 7:22your shopping. When you land in the US, go for
- 7:25your training. After that, you go for your
- 7:28shopping. You are improving yourself.
- 7:30You will be with the federal government all your life.
- 7:33All the time will come when you want to start a business.
- 7:35Your spouse will want to start a business, your children want to
- 7:38start a business. It's from all these small, small
- 7:40foreign training that you didn't pay for, that you've been
- 7:43learning one or two things that you'll now be useful to your
- 7:46kids, to yourself, to your spouse.
- 7:47And it's the same thing for those of us who work in
- 7:49organizations. Where do your guy or the Madam
- 7:53is willing to drop by so that people can come and train you?
- 7:56Anything that is free, take advantage of it.
- 7:59Free podcast, take advantage of it.
- 8:01Free seminar, take advantage of it.
- 8:04Your guy is paying, take advantage of it.
- 8:06Now eventually will be nice for you to start paying to beef your
- 8:10own skills, but until then take advantage of all these free
- 8:14opportunities. Then I also needed to tell these
- 8:17people some proper etiquettes that we need as salespeople and
- 8:20#1 it is don't be late because when you're late, it shows a
- 8:24lack of respect for others and then people end up not trusting
- 8:27you. Now, when it is normal in house
- 8:30meeting, and I know you don't think it's too much of a big
- 8:33deal, but if you get into a habit of coming late for one or
- 8:36two things, that's how one day when money is on the line and
- 8:39sweet money, you will now show up late for a meeting.
- 8:42And you really don't think that all these small, small things,
- 8:45you know, showing up late, not dressing right, not sounding
- 8:48right, not talking right, not doing what you promised, you
- 8:50know, things like that. You really don't think all these
- 8:52things add up to the way people see you and regard you and
- 8:55respect you. So like I had to tell them at
- 8:57this meeting because there were four sales associates that was
- 9:01there. There's one that I've known for
- 9:03a while because it took a while for them to put together the
- 9:06sales team. So the oldest person there, I
- 9:07was like, look, at least I know her me and how we've been vibing
- 9:11for a while before you 2 got here.
- 9:12I know her capabilities by the time this thing ends and then me
- 9:16and how we jump on the outside. At least I know that.
- 9:17OK, this babe, this what she's capable of.
- 9:21Do many three of you you guys are following us on doing smash,
- 9:24smash, smash. Like if we meet outside, like
- 9:26how do you think I'm going to reach you?
- 9:28If there's an opportunity and somebody asks me Tavish and my
- 9:31what's up? OK, these four babes are here.
- 9:33What do you think? Like who do you think I'm going
- 9:35to vouch for? We should be thinking about all
- 9:38these sorts of things as sales people.
- 9:39We should never be late. Show respect for other people's
- 9:43time and let people trust you because of how you're conducting
- 9:47yourself. Then do what you say you will.
- 9:50If you have said I will do this thing, do it.
- 9:53People will trust you. You will become dependable.
- 9:56Somebody will think about you as a ride or die person.
- 9:59All these things are important when it comes to sales.
- 10:02Now, of course, we're not perfect.
- 10:03Things happen. I'm like, look at me now, for
- 10:06instance, like me and the kids. Things happen that time when I'm
- 10:10off to do once or, you know, do something.
- 10:12And then somebody calls me like, this one's real life.
- 10:15Hello, Sir. Blah, blah.
- 10:17Los Angeles fell off his swing, you know, banged his tooth.
- 10:20He's OK, blah, blah, blah. You know, should we take him to
- 10:23the hospital? I say, yeah, sure, no problem.
- 10:25Do whatever it is that is within your Yes, you know, go ahead.
- 10:30Do all the first aid. You know, that is necessary.
- 10:33He's doing OK, OK, no problem. I will be there to pick him up
- 10:36early. Then, you know, I went about my
- 10:38business and then I had to counsel one or two things, then
- 10:41go and then attend to my son. So these things happen and we're
- 10:44human. We know that these things
- 10:45happen. So This is why I told them when
- 10:48stuff comes up, send somebody a notification, send somebody an
- 10:52apology, send somebody a message, try and reschedule.
- 10:56Do this well ahead of time. For those of you who've been
- 10:58listening to the podcast, you know that my own personal
- 11:00standard is do it like two or three hours ahead.
- 11:03Because if you guys are supposed to meet by let's say 1:00 in the
- 11:06afternoon and you send somebody a message at 11:30, like you
- 11:09more or less have wasted the person's time because the person
- 11:12has planned to be there by 1:00. You're not sending him message
- 11:14at 12:30. So you can't make it like, what
- 11:16the hell, If you're going to give somebody an apology that
- 11:21you can't make it, give the person an apology with enough
- 11:26time so that the person can now plan and do something else.
- 11:28So the meeting is 1 by like around.
- 11:31I can't 9/30/10. It looks like I can't make it
- 11:33and I'll pick up the phone. I'll call the person.
- 11:35The person will be relieved. You've told the person hours
- 11:38ahead of time. The person can now plan to do
- 11:40something else with that time. Really calling somebody up 15
- 11:43minutes to say we can't make it is absolute rubbish for
- 11:46salespeople. For those of us who are in
- 11:48sales, calling somebody 15 minutes ahead to say you can't
- 11:52make it is rubbish. As soon as you know you're
- 11:54running late, let that person know.
- 11:55If you can let the person know 234 hours that you can't make
- 11:58it, let the person know. Worst case scenario, one hour.
- 12:02But really, if you're calling somebody 30 minutes, 15 minutes,
- 12:05I can't make the meeting you've, you've, you've wasted the
- 12:08person's time. So please, let's pay attention
- 12:14to all of this. In fact, there's one thing I
- 12:16need to stress was I say, well, let me know.
- 12:19Stress it because you know, I'm a guy.
- 12:20I'm a certain age, They are ladies of a certain age.
- 12:23So let it not be as if I'm bullying them.
- 12:26But this is something let me stress on the podcast.
- 12:27Look, especially for women in March of 2025, especially those
- 12:32of you who are younger, all these things are important
- 12:35because to be honest, people are already looking at you like man
- 12:38is a small girl. They're not, they're not really,
- 12:39they're not expecting you to measure up to a certain level of
- 12:42maturity anyway in the 1st place.
- 12:44I'm just being frank with you. So in this environment, these
- 12:47things are even much more important for women.
- 12:49Be on time. If you know that you're going to
- 12:54be late, be professional about this thing.
- 12:56Send an apology, try and reschedule the meeting anyway.
- 13:02So next thing I tried to tell them that, and it's what I
- 13:05started off the podcast by saying is all these things that
- 13:07people are organizing your employee, your employer.
- 13:10It's not really about your employer.
- 13:12It's about you, the salesperson who is being trained.
- 13:15Because I told them straight like, look me, I've been paid.
- 13:18Whether this thing works good or doesn't work at all, I have been
- 13:21paid. So I'm good and I will make my
- 13:24money on this training occasion or on other occasions and I will
- 13:29be good. Business will be fine, God
- 13:31willing, granting me good health, I'll be good.
- 13:35And I told them, look, your employee, he's a sharp guy.
- 13:38You can see that he's on the move.
- 13:40Any which way he's going to be good.
- 13:42The second location, whether you guys agree or you don't agree,
- 13:45he will open this thing and he will open the 3rd and the 4th
- 13:48and he will be good. Any which way he will make his
- 13:51money. His train is moving.
- 13:52My train is moving like we were set.
- 13:56Well, OK, we're on the path. It's about you.
- 14:01Are you going to be alone for the journey?
- 14:03I was trying to get them to understand for me, You know,
- 14:07I've started my journey. I already know the trajectory.
- 14:10The other guy knows his trajectory.
- 14:12You, you, they are just starting.
- 14:14Are you going to be along on the journey?
- 14:16Will you follow me and learn one or two things or will you follow
- 14:19your guy and learn one or two things?
- 14:21I told him this thing is all about learnable skills and life
- 14:23skills. He's an OK guy.
- 14:26He's very friendly. You know, he's very open.
- 14:28The office is there, he's even there.
- 14:30What you get you, But we should be shadowing him.
- 14:32If he's answering the phone, listen, pick up one or two
- 14:34things. If he's going for business
- 14:36meeting and things are slow in the shop, just follow him right
- 14:40along. Learn one or two things.
- 14:43The thing is a family business. So the person who is involved in
- 14:46HR is the guy's sister. I said, look, this is an
- 14:49established human resources professional here.
- 14:53Who is doing this, helping, you know, in the family business to
- 14:56help move this thing forward? People are young woman, this is
- 14:59a young woman here. Shadow this sister, learn some
- 15:02stuff, become her friend. Really.
- 15:08When your guy pays money, especially in Nigeria, your guy,
- 15:11your Madam, they pay money for training.
- 15:13You don't show up. You're not taking these things
- 15:15seriously. It is yourself that you're
- 15:16showing because your guy, your Madam, they will succeed.
- 15:20You're already doing what they need to sort themselves out.
- 15:22They will succeed the trainer, if he's any good or if she's any
- 15:26good is also going to succeed. It's all about you.
- 15:29If you like, sit there like a passive person, let this thing
- 15:32pass you by like you're you're doing yourself.
- 15:35So what I told them when I'm going to tell some of you
- 15:38listening to this now, because there's some of you who are
- 15:40employees and whenever the organized training or they say,
- 15:43oh, it's not for Friday meeting you black, I beg you know, you
- 15:47just be squeezing your mouth one time.
- 15:49Look, take this thing seriously because you know, honestly, it's
- 15:52about you because me or whoever the facilitator is, they will
- 15:56make their money neat and they will go.
- 15:59The owner of the business is going to make their money neat
- 16:02and they will continue whether you're there or not.
- 16:04Granting that God gives us good life and good health for us to
- 16:07continue. So for you, just show up for
- 16:10these things, be professional, then learn what you can to make
- 16:13your own money because nobody is naive.
- 16:17I know that this current job that you're at, if you're a
- 16:20salesperson, if you're sales associate, I know you're not
- 16:22going to spend your life on that job.
- 16:24You will move on to other opportunities and God willing,
- 16:28you'll move on to bigger and better and more profitable
- 16:30opportunities until that time comes.
- 16:33Learn the small that has come before you now so that when you
- 16:36get to that time where there's bigger opportunities, you have
- 16:39learned some life skills, you have learned some sales skills,
- 16:44you have learned some personal development, you've learned some
- 16:46all kinds of things that will help you to maximize those big
- 16:50opportunities that you feel that God is taking you to.
- 16:53So if you feel like you're, well, like where you are, it's
- 16:57too small for you. I understand if you, we all feel
- 16:59that way. We all start somewhere.
- 17:01And you look at yourself, like me, an educated person like
- 17:04this, This is where I am you now start looking at your age like
- 17:08me, an educated person. This is where I am at 30, or
- 17:11this is where I am at 40, or this is where I am at 50.
- 17:15You hold me. Yeah, almost to everybody,
- 17:19wherever you are, be faithful where you are, Start learning
- 17:22where you are, acquire the skills that you need.
- 17:25They'll come in really handy when God starts to materialize
- 17:27the other opportunities in your life.
- 17:30So it's part of what I told the sales associates.
- 17:35So excuse me and part of what I'm coming to share with you
- 17:37today, because I know there are some of you that when August
- 17:41says or where Madam says, Oh yeah, Friday morning, everybody
- 17:45show sales meeting, office meeting, whatever it is you do
- 17:50start squeezing your mouth. Just know yourself that you're
- 17:54doing. It's not the business that
- 17:55you're doing and it's not the trainer, it's not the
- 17:59consultant, it's not the facilitator that you're doing.
- 18:03Now, the second thing that I want us to look at is how not to
- 18:06use automated messaging. For those of you who are tired
- 18:08of WhatsApp episodes, you know, I'm sorry, but this is also
- 18:10another WhatsApp episode. Now the reason why I'm doing
- 18:13that is because I received a message today and the message
- 18:15was saying hello, are you a pro photographer?
- 18:18Verify your name to get photo book details.
- 18:21So you understand what the guy's trying to do.
- 18:23Now he wants to they call it data enrichment where you have a
- 18:27phone number, but you don't have a name you don't have, you know
- 18:29stuff like that. So you look for ways for people
- 18:32to offer more information. The more data that you have
- 18:34about people, the better you're going to be able to run your
- 18:37sales process. So him just going on the
- 18:40Internet, getting some random messages, maybe like 500 numbers
- 18:43and then blasting this message to all of us.
- 18:45We are. Hello, are you a pro
- 18:46photographer to verify your name, get photo book details?
- 18:50That's just data enrichment now, because me, now I'm involved in
- 18:55sales, you know, I try to be polite.
- 18:57So I responded and I responded, I wrote, please remove me from
- 19:00your list. I'm no longer in the photography
- 19:03business. Then another message now popped
- 19:07up. The message says, how can I
- 19:09assist? Are you looking for specific
- 19:11branding and photo services? And I realized that, oh, OK,
- 19:13this is automated message or, or chat bot or whatever.
- 19:17Because there are all kinds of things that are out there, you
- 19:19know, like this is it many chats?
- 19:21Which is it? No many chat.
- 19:24I'd be many chat that you can plug all these bots into your
- 19:27different inboxes and they help to send messages to you and then
- 19:30stuff like that. So I was like, OK, it's a chat,
- 19:33no problem. But still I wanted the guy to
- 19:35catch the hint. So I did that sliding thing and
- 19:38uttered the message and I wrote, please remove me from your list
- 19:42because when I wanted that when the guy opens the inbox, he will
- 19:46now see that oh, OK, truly this is somebody that should take off
- 19:48the list. Then another message now entered
- 19:51again, do you need some more information?
- 19:54Question mark? That was a summary.
- 19:57Now what I did at this point was I decided to just block the guy.
- 20:00I just blocked the handle. This guy is trying to be, you
- 20:08know, people are trying to use AI for automation, efficiency,
- 20:11blah, blah, blah. And you can see the reason why I
- 20:12tell you people that look, all this automation automate, like
- 20:15you guys should be coming down first.
- 20:17You want to be automating like what do you know that you're
- 20:19automating? Look, before I get to that,
- 20:23let's think of the damage we're doing.
- 20:24Let's say that this guy just went to Google or some business
- 20:28directory and use some scraper tool just to get 500 numbers of
- 20:32different businesses because you know it's possible.
- 20:34Now let's say Abuja, you get like that kind of 120.
- 20:37Lagos definitely you'll get like 250 numbers of photographers.
- 20:42Lagos, there'll be plenty now, but our courts may be able to
- 20:45get like that kind. I don't know, 8100 where else?
- 20:49OK Cano, maybe you'll to get like 50, but it's possible that
- 20:52he can get like a sample size of 500.
- 20:54Then you send this kind of messages, Guess how many people
- 20:58are ignoring? I can assure you very, very, as
- 21:01you know, to the, the people that ignored, they are high.
- 21:05Therefore, some of the people that responded, I can tell you
- 21:08that there's some people who blocked.
- 21:09In fact, some people might have blocked outright.
- 21:11And I've been saying on the podcast, and I'm sure some of
- 21:16you haven't quite understood. So let me just use this as an
- 21:18example. When you do this kind of things,
- 21:20you're creating deliverability issues for yourself for future
- 21:23campaigns. Because when you do these kind
- 21:26of things and then somebody like me clicks block, let's say out
- 21:29of 500, let's say 20 of us clicked on block, you think it's
- 21:34not a problem? OK, no problem.
- 21:36But The thing is, you do realize that by the time you do this
- 21:38campaign 10 times in a year and each time 20 people click block,
- 21:43it's more like that would be like 2000, more like 2000 people
- 21:48are clicking block on your messages.
- 21:52This is the reason why some of you wake up one day and you say,
- 21:55I don't know why Facebook blocked me.
- 21:58Well, I don't know why my messages on WhatsApp are now
- 22:01being restricted or I don't know why I'm showing up on Truecaller
- 22:04as spam. It is precisely because of these
- 22:07kinds of behavior. Every single time somebody
- 22:10blocks, ignores move to spam. Was the other one archive?
- 22:16You know, move to promotions, whether it's Google inbox or
- 22:20Facebook inbox or Instagram inbox or whatever, the algorithm
- 22:24is getting all these signals. And the picture that the
- 22:28algorithms are getting of you is that this person is, you know,
- 22:33the person is not doing anything valuable because the person
- 22:36throws out something 80% of the people ignore.
- 22:39Of the 20% that respond, you know, 10% are blocking and
- 22:42spamming and everything. You're creating deliverability
- 22:46issues for future campaigns. Stop this kind of behavior, if
- 22:51nothing else, so that your deliverability will remain cool,
- 22:56will remain good for future campaigns that you want to run.
- 23:01I've told you guys that I've seen this thing live.
- 23:03You had a networking session, You exchanged nobody's numbers
- 23:06with somebody personal. Sure, no problem.
- 23:07Let me buzz you. Let me start this phone number.
- 23:09And as the person clicks Buzz Truecaller will now show
- 23:12reported as spam by 26 contacts. Of course, in your presence, the
- 23:18person will laugh about it and you guys will have a joke.
- 23:20But you really think the person is not going to make an
- 23:23impression that the person was trying to store your phone
- 23:25number? He said, let me flash you small.
- 23:27And then the next thing true colour says reported as spam by
- 23:30XYZ number of contacts. You really don't think these
- 23:32things make an impression? And then let me leave this
- 23:35issue. Now, one big issue here that
- 23:39I've been trying to tell you guys about this automation thing
- 23:41is when you're trying to do AI or chat bot or whatnot, these
- 23:46things are algorithms. They have no situational
- 23:49awareness, They have no contextual awareness.
- 23:52So if these things have to work, you have to program in all
- 23:56possible scenarios, including scenarios where people are
- 24:00trying to say, get me off the list.
- 24:03That is the only situation where the AI or the chat bot is going
- 24:06to be able to respond appropriately and say, oh, I'm
- 24:09sorry, I will take you off the list is because you have not
- 24:12programmed in these kinds of scenarios.
- 24:14To do that, you're going to need a lot of data from plenty of
- 24:17conversations. And this is the reason why I say
- 24:21most of you should stay away from these things.
- 24:24Those of us who are fresh in business, the big boys, you
- 24:27know, let's say like MTNMTN has fielded, I don't know, MTN has
- 24:31been in Nigeria since when? Since ambassador's time up until
- 24:34now. So it's possible that MTN has
- 24:35fielded like maybe 500 million phone calls that those kind of
- 24:41people, if they want to map out a decision tree about how to
- 24:44program these things, you know that if a person says this, say
- 24:47that. If a person says this says that
- 24:49they have all the data to program their bots to function
- 24:52suite, you don't, you don't have enough data and you don't have
- 24:57enough experiences for that. That's the reason why I say if
- 24:59you're fresh in business, if you're brand new, ignore this
- 25:02automation thing. You think you're making your
- 25:05life easier. You're just causing all kinds of
- 25:07issues for yourself. Now, the proper way to use AI
- 25:10bots or WhatsApp bought in my own opinion is use this thing to
- 25:13start a conversation. Eventually let a human
- 25:17specialist enter into this conversation.
- 25:19So if you're going to broadcast like this guy, let the broadcast
- 25:22remember this. What I tell you people let is is
- 25:25not a bad idea to start from problem based openers and things
- 25:29like that. You know, so greetings, are you
- 25:32a photographer? Let that be the first message
- 25:35and the only message that you send Brown send it to everybody.
- 25:38Some of us will respond yes from yes.
- 25:43You cannot have automated prompts around, you know,
- 25:45special areas or specialty or stuff like that.
- 25:48But bottom line, what I'm trying to say is that even if it's you
- 25:51do the first broadcast, are you a photographer?
- 25:54And some people respond yes. Then from there from yes
- 25:57manually you now take over even that you have saved yourself
- 26:00from work. Sorry 1 moment.
- 26:07OK, sorry about that. I am back.
- 26:09My wife just kicked me out of the room because you know she
- 26:12just walked in like look at me cooking all day.
- 26:14I'm tired, I want to bath, so I had to leave.
- 26:19Let's see, how was I? Anyway, the good thing about
- 26:22leaving is, yeah, things are quite much quieter in the room
- 26:26that I moved to. If I should have just started
- 26:27here a long time ago. I believe I was in the middle of
- 26:30a rant about the proper way to use what's I bought, AI bought
- 26:36and things like that. So the philosophy that we should
- 26:38be using now on these sorts of things is we should just be
- 26:42using this as a way to start a conversation or to prompt a
- 26:45conversation that you are going to slide into.
- 26:47Let us stop using these things assuming that they can handle
- 26:51conversations for us from beginning to end because yes,
- 26:55there are businesses that can do that.
- 26:56They tend to be businesses that are very, very rich, plenty of
- 26:59money and they tend to be businesses that have lots of
- 27:02data most importantly. So for MTN, yes, MTN bot can run
- 27:06this conversation from beginning to the end because it has all
- 27:09the data points that it needs to come up with responses and
- 27:15decision trees about. You know what to do because I'm
- 27:17sure MTN has have people who have told them, I beg take me
- 27:21off your list. Or MTN has had people say things
- 27:24to them like look, you people are bastards.
- 27:26You're trying to cripple my business.
- 27:29If somebody replies your WhatsApp message saying, look,
- 27:31you're a bastard, stop messaging me.
- 27:33The poor AI bot does not know what to respond.
- 27:35You haven't put anything there in its data set.
- 27:37But for MTN, they have had that kind of data, so they know what
- 27:41to do, how to program the AI. So that I think I respond that
- 27:44when people are hostile and they use this kind of language, this
- 27:46is how you just escalate. This is how you do this.
- 27:48This is how you do that. You don't have the data set to
- 27:53program your AI to do all these sorts of things.
- 27:56So in my own opinion, in the beginning, ease of relax, do one
- 28:01or two broadcasts just so that you can figure out who is
- 28:04interested and you can figure out you know where the person is
- 28:06coming from. And then at some point you
- 28:08inject yourself into the conversation.
- 28:13Then this whole thing about auto prompts, in my own opinion, auto
- 28:17prompts all I put it, well, let me just say tread likely when it
- 28:28comes to these auto prompt things.
- 28:29But if you must use auto prompts, in my own opinion, you
- 28:33should use it in a way that provides value to the person who
- 28:37is sending the message and an auto prompt that says your time
- 28:41is important to us, blah, blah, blah.
- 28:43We're not available right now. We'll respond to you in two or
- 28:45three hours. That is not anything of value to
- 28:48the person. So before AI became all the rage
- 28:54and automated messages, let us just backtrack small.
- 28:57I remember what people used to do in the good old days when
- 29:00there was only e-mail and people would use automated e-mail
- 29:04responses. So 1 moment.
- 29:09OK, sorry about that. This time I was one of the kids
- 29:11who wanted something for me. I guess I picked the wrong time
- 29:13to record today when we were 30 minutes.
- 29:15So let me just bring this thing to a halt.
- 29:18Let me just wrap this thing up. So use your automator prompts in
- 29:21a way that provides value to the other person.
- 29:24Now, back in the good old days when I was only e-mail before,
- 29:26you know everything, automate, automate, automate.
- 29:29Some people would have auto response messages and the whole
- 29:32point of the auto response message was something like this.
- 29:34Thank you very much for your e-mail.
- 29:36I'm currently not at my desk or I am away on maternity leave or
- 29:41I am away on official assignment.
- 29:43I cannot respond to this message right now.
- 29:45If it is an emergency, please call BC on 080 or please call
- 29:51Hamza on this dot dot dot or please message Oge Dengbe at
- 29:57this e-mail address. At least that one provides some
- 30:01value so that somebody who is reaching out to you sending a
- 30:04message expecting an immediate response, at least they know now
- 30:07that they can't get an immediate response for you, but they know
- 30:11now the appropriate quarters where they can send their
- 30:14request to. So please, you should stop all
- 30:18this automating. At the very least let your auto
- 30:21response message be the same one that has worked of old that used
- 30:25to the only that people used to use when e-mail was the only
- 30:28game in town. So if you're swamped, you're
- 30:32busy. Let's say you're a caterer, your
- 30:34business is now moving so you can't attend to your messages
- 30:37for 2-3 hours at a time. Let that be the auto response
- 30:40message so that the first time client who can wait there with
- 30:44chill. Somebody who is having an
- 30:46emergency, maybe because they paid you, they haven't heard
- 30:49from you. The event is supposed to start
- 30:50in four hours and they are feeling tense.
- 30:54That kind of message at least is of value to them.
- 30:57They will now know OK, I can call BC then they will call BC.
- 31:00I shout I busy to say look I paid.
- 31:01You know the advance is about to start where you people blah blah
- 31:04blah. That is something of value.
- 31:05You have given an alternative point of contact.
- 31:08So please, for those of us who are fresh in the game, let's
- 31:10stop trying to be fancy when it comes to all these AI.
- 31:14Many chat, WhatsApp, bought Facebook, but I relax.
- 31:19The time will come when we have the sophistication and the data
- 31:23to execute on these sorts of things.
- 31:24But in the beginning, foundational, good, best
- 31:27business practices, How do you have conversations with people?
- 31:31How do you be polite? How do you be professional?
- 31:33How do you introduce yourself? How do you figure out what they
- 31:35want? How do you figure out what's
- 31:37going on? Make the best possible
- 31:38recommendations. As in, learn all these things by
- 31:40yourself instead of expecting some AI tool to close the deal
- 31:44for you. Maybe one day we'll get there.
- 31:47But for now, especially for the small business owner, we are not
- 31:51there yet. So that's all.
- 31:55Let me just wrap it up here. So thank you very much.
- 31:58That's all folks, basically. So if you've got any sales or
- 32:00marketing questions, call SMS or WhatsApp on 08064662140.
- 32:07Country code is +234. Thank you very much for your
- 32:09time and attention. I'll catch you guys in the next
- 32:11episode. And don't worry, next day I'll
- 32:13try and pick a day to record when you know, the whole family
- 32:17is in home. And maybe it's not a day that is
- 32:19raining and maybe it's not a day that the generators have the, I
- 32:22say generators that the neighbors have their generator
- 32:24on. So thanks.
- 32:25I'll catch you guys at the next episode.