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- 0:01Hello and welcome. My name is Tavishma Ayede.
- 0:04I'm the host of the podcast and today we're going to be looking
- 0:07at how to give discounts and then some other random stuff.
- 0:11This is going to be, you know, an episode about my 3
- 0:15Musketeers. If you've been listening for a
- 0:17while then you really know who they are.
- 0:20So if you'd love to connect, you can call SMS or send me a
- 0:23WhatsApp on 08064662140. And of course, I'm making
- 0:29today's recording at home, so there's going to be some noise
- 0:31in the background. Now the things that we're going
- 0:35to look at today, I'm not sure if we have mentioned them
- 0:39before, so let me run through my notes.
- 0:43But to be on the safe side, let me just go ahead and do this.
- 0:47Now. One of them is on giving
- 0:50discounts. So I'm looking at the notes from
- 0:52my sessions with my 3 Musketeers Now.
- 0:56For those of you who remember my Musketeers now, they're part of
- 0:58a sales team for my client who is in the solar space.
- 1:02And we get together repeatedly during the week.
- 1:06We're in the second, second month of our engagement.
- 1:10And then these are some of the old things that we discussed
- 1:12before. So there's not every single
- 1:15thing we discussed that I come over here or share on the
- 1:17podcast, but I think there are some things that are really
- 1:20important, foundational. So I come over here and discuss.
- 1:23And then one of them is this whole discount issue.
- 1:26Now for those of you who've been listening for a while, you know
- 1:29that me and discounts, like I don't like discounts at all at
- 1:32all, at all. Anything that will make us stop
- 1:35playing the price game. In my own opinion, let's
- 1:38diminish that thing. Let's remove it fast and let's
- 1:42try and focus on selling on value because I have sold based
- 1:46on price in the past and I know you have as well.
- 1:50But you know that when you get into a price war, nobody wins.
- 1:54As in you know, first to tire, first to lower price, all of
- 1:57those things, nobody wins. So in my own opinion, if you're
- 2:03a professional salesperson, just leave price alone.
- 2:06If your gases go and sell this thing for 2.5, look around.
- 2:12First of all, if you can see other people selling at 2.5,
- 2:15then that's your answer. Go and sell it for 2.5 even if
- 2:18you think the price is too high. In fact, sometimes that's the
- 2:22problem, we who are trying to sell market, whether it's for
- 2:26your own business of or another person's behalf, you really
- 2:29think the price is too high. So it's your own business.
- 2:35You started off as a cake maker. You see that everybody is
- 2:38selling 2 inch tear cake at 75 K.
- 2:43You said you've done the costing.
- 2:44You've seen that it costs like maybe 65 K to make the cake.
- 2:49If you put 10K in your pocket, it won't be bad.
- 2:52But then you start thinking haha the economy is hard, times are
- 2:56hard. How many people can afford to
- 2:59pay 75K per cake? You know, blah blah blah.
- 3:03None of those things are your business.
- 3:05Quite frankly, if you've done the numbers and it's costing
- 3:11expensive to bake the cake and it's looking as if around in
- 3:14your neighborhood, look to your left, look to your right, look
- 3:16around, check on Instagram is as if, OK, the going rate for two
- 3:21tier cake is 75 K, then it needs 75K.
- 3:25Now let's work on selling this thing.
- 3:28We start engaging in price battles.
- 3:31You know, you drop your own instead of 75, you drop it to
- 3:3473. Next time we talk to her, she
- 3:37says, but I found somebody that will do it for 70 and then you
- 3:39drop it to 70. And then before you know it,
- 3:42even though it's costing you 65 K to produce 1 cake, you're now
- 3:45selling it at 68 to make how much profit on top.
- 3:50So a lot of times it's because we were not sold on the value.
- 3:54You, the person that you're moving your own business, you're
- 3:56not sold on the value that you provide.
- 3:58You don't believe that you're selling value in this market.
- 4:01And then those of you who are employees, Olga, you're selling
- 4:05on behalf of Olga. You don't really believe the
- 4:07value and what it is that you're selling.
- 4:09And so you start playing all these price games.
- 4:11So the very first thing that I will say don't touch as in leave
- 4:15it is price. So if I'm working with anybody
- 4:19and they say, but the price, the price, my own attitude is let's
- 4:22leave it. Let's leave it.
- 4:24However it is that they fix the price that fix the price.
- 4:27Our own is let's sell it. And always ask, is there
- 4:29somebody that is selling at this price?
- 4:31The answer is always yes. Then let us sit down Rob mines
- 4:34together and let's see how we can sell this thing at this
- 4:36price. However, there are sometimes
- 4:41when some things happen like my client one day, you know, was
- 4:45not too happy, looked at the balance sheet and I called the
- 4:48whole team and say look, team, see here is what we have to be
- 4:52doing every month for everything to be buoyant, everything to be
- 4:56cool. And so far, look at where you
- 4:58guys at, you can see that there's a gap.
- 5:01So that was the meeting. So one of these people now came
- 5:05out of the meeting and the guy just thought, you know what, let
- 5:08me call somebody and give them discounts.
- 5:10Maybe that will make them buy. So he called the guy, what's up
- 5:14blah blah. How you been?
- 5:16I've got good news. I've been able to give you a so
- 5:18so so so discount. And the person said, and let me
- 5:21think about it and then I'll start.
- 5:22Our conversation ended Then when we met up later on, we're now
- 5:28discussing the whole discount move.
- 5:31So first of all, when the guy told me the amount he offered a
- 5:33discount. My mind wanted to.
- 5:38I said my mind wanted to bust. I said you offer how much has
- 5:42discount? The guy called you figure I said
- 5:44the organs say you can be discounting based on that.
- 5:47He said and that is within my discretion to give discounts.
- 5:53But that amount I said, Are you sure?
- 5:54You say yes. I said, OK, no problem, I'll
- 5:56discuss it with Olga. I wrote it down discuss with
- 5:58Olga discount policy because I've said in the previous
- 6:04podcast and lots of people don't realize this, but whether you're
- 6:08the salesperson or whether you're the business 1 are
- 6:10selling for yourself, every single time you make a discount
- 6:12now, you're creating more work for yourself in the future
- 6:17because you give a discount in your mind is small, 10 percent,
- 6:2020% get the person to come and buy now.
- 6:23It still doesn't change the fact that at the end of the day, you
- 6:26have a certain revenue number that you want to hit.
- 6:28You want to make 200 mil by the end of the year or you want to
- 6:31make 5 mil. You want to make whatever every
- 6:33single time you discount now that go, that number that you
- 6:37still need to hit because let's face it, if you don't hit it,
- 6:40you won't be able to pay Internet.
- 6:41You'll be able to pay school fees and all of those things.
- 6:43That number is still there. So every time you discount now
- 6:46you're increasing the number of contacts, the number of people
- 6:49that you have to call in the future to make that go, which is
- 6:53also another reason why I don't like discounts.
- 6:55I did one rough math for you guys on for my podcast episode.
- 6:59I can't remember the details but let me just re style it.
- 7:02You can hit your 1,000,000 go by selling four people at a profit
- 7:06margin OF250K you hit one meal or you can hit your 1,000,000 by
- 7:13selling Gosh I can't remember what I did so let me just do
- 7:17something ridiculous by selling 1,000,000 people at a profit at
- 7:22one naira. Yes at a profit of 1 naira you
- 7:25can see hit your 1,000,000 go. Then the question is, which is
- 7:28easier to sell to four people or to sell to 1,000,000 people?
- 7:33I hope you guys are getting the math.
- 7:35It is easier to clock your quota by selling for people at the
- 7:40profit margin of 250. So for me, I'm in favour of, of
- 7:46course, let's not price gouge the market because at some point
- 7:48you're just being unreasonable. See, But The thing is when it
- 7:54comes to pricing unreasonable, you never know if anybody had
- 7:57told me two years ago that you will sell mobile phone for 2.5
- 8:02and Nigerians will be buying, I'll say is a lie.
- 8:03There is only people who steal that will buy like that.
- 8:06But lo and behold this fold the fold and the flip is not to M
- 8:132.5 and people are buying. So when it comes to this thing
- 8:17of price of is even hard, hard to gauge.
- 8:19Like when I when have you entered price gouging?
- 8:21My own opinion, the moment your phone is reaching 1,000,000, we
- 8:24don't begin the price gouge, but people are paying.
- 8:29They're pained. See, this is also another reason
- 8:33why I say, look, let's just leave this price thing alone,
- 8:35especially those of us who are simple business people or simple
- 8:38sales people. This whole pricing thing, the
- 8:40psychology involved, this economics involved, There's all
- 8:43kinds of things involved. Let the people who know how to
- 8:46do that, let them do their magic and fix the price.
- 8:48I only shall let sell dazzle. So where was I now?
- 8:56So I made a note, discussed with Olga price discount policy then
- 9:01and I told the guy, OK, you know what, I understand when things
- 9:04are tight in the office, I understand that some of you want
- 9:06to go out and you want to go into aggressive cash collection
- 9:10mode as in let me be calling them, oh, buyers owe me money.
- 9:14Let me call this guy. Oh, this person did he look like
- 9:17was OK? Let me call this guy.
- 9:18Let me call this babe. Let me call this person, you
- 9:21know, immediate aggressive cash collection.
- 9:24Cash, Cash, cash, while looking at short term want to bring this
- 9:27money in. So I understand those moves, but
- 9:31if you're going to do those kind of moves either for your own
- 9:33business or because of somebody else's business, this is the
- 9:36scope, this is how you do it. Traditionally you don't want to
- 9:39offer huge discounts because unfortunately the problem of
- 9:42huge discounts is it sounds unbelievable.
- 9:45And then it also makes the person feel like you are price
- 9:47gouging, which is why I was not surprised.
- 9:49That person said, let me think about it.
- 9:51If you call someone and say, hey, what's up now, are you
- 9:54there, blah, blah, blah. Hey, you know nothing we're
- 9:55talking about the we say 1.2 say, yeah, I remember, I'm still
- 10:01thinking about it. It's OK, no problem.
- 10:04Let me give you discount, remove 500K.
- 10:06In your mind, you're thinking that the person will say 500K,
- 10:11let me buy now the person might start thinking, so there was
- 10:14even margin OF500K on top before.
- 10:18It means that this guy was trying to gouge me.
- 10:21The guy is not going to fall for it.
- 10:23He won't. Of course you would say, let me
- 10:27think about it and call up some other people and see how much he
- 10:30can get off. Because if you you are
- 10:32desperate, you can throw a 500. Then it means that the margins
- 10:37on top are plenty. He cannot call somebody up and
- 10:39say, hey, you know what I spoke to?
- 10:41So, so and so right now, the person removed 500 on the price.
- 10:46But you, you're the one I like. You sound like you're a
- 10:49reasonable somebody, so look, let's be straightforward here.
- 10:53If you just remove 250 for me, I'll go ahead and buy from you.
- 10:56You know, buyers play those games, so don't just go and call
- 11:01big numbers. Big number can backfire.
- 11:04It can. So this is what you do
- 11:09traditionally this game. First of all, the discount you
- 11:14offer is small, 2 to 3%. Worst case enter 5% but don't
- 11:22want to be calling big big number at all.
- 11:26Then you look at 2 criteria, 2 criteria.
- 11:33You look for people that are also called high value, high
- 11:41value clients and high urgency. High value means the money is
- 11:46big. If what you're talking about is
- 11:49costs 120K and you tell the person you're giving them 5%
- 11:52discount, 5% discount on 100K is not there's nothing.
- 11:57What if what you're selling is on big, big, big, big level, you
- 11:59know, 5M7M10M12M20M By the time you calculate 3% discount, the
- 12:06money will sound big. So we did the math over there in
- 12:09the team and we saw that on their products of five M, 5%
- 12:15discount is 250 K SO250K on every five M You can see that
- 12:20the thing sounds, you know it sounds doable.
- 12:24In other words, by the time you are discussing with somebody for
- 12:27a system of 10 M and you save 5% discount, what you're doing is
- 12:31you're saving the person 500K. You can hear that 500K sounds
- 12:34large, but relative to the total amount, the money is small.
- 12:39So we're talking 2 to 3% traditionally.
- 12:42Traditionally, I know some of you still want to go higher.
- 12:46Please do not pass 5%, but you can see that First off, it has
- 12:50to be high value. The amount must be beam, it must
- 12:53be big. If you're going to offer
- 12:55somebody a 5% discount on top something that costs 50K, the
- 12:59person is not going to pay attention to you because what is
- 13:015% discount? I should have done it before I
- 13:05started this episode, OK? No, If I want to do it now, I
- 13:08might end up cutting this podcast recording because you
- 13:12know that I'm using my phone. So it has to be on big, big
- 13:14money, big, big, big, big money. So that's the first one, high
- 13:18value invoice, high value client.
- 13:20Now the second thing is there has to be someone who has high
- 13:22urgency. It means you've already decided
- 13:24ahead of time. You've been speaking to the
- 13:26person, you know that this person is ready to move.
- 13:28They're ready to move now, now, now.
- 13:30So that kind of person, if you say 5%, so long as you can pay
- 13:34by next week Wednesday, the person has already been ready to
- 13:37move before they will take action.
- 13:42But if the person has no urgency, you're calling them now
- 13:44to give them this discount. There's still no intent.
- 13:47There's still no urgency, there's no motivation to move.
- 13:51Let me give an example. Back in my wedding photography
- 13:53days, let's say we sat down, we priced everything.
- 13:56The babe's bill comes up to 800 K.
- 13:58But the problem is they're getting married next year.
- 14:01I can come and tell her that, OK, you know what?
- 14:02Remove 300K and then move your wedding date forward.
- 14:05I mean, like how like the date is the date.
- 14:09People's priorities are the priorities.
- 14:11That timeline is that timeline. You can't shift that timeline by
- 14:13giving them a sweet, a sweet deal.
- 14:16Now, when you're talking on big, big, big, big, big things, you
- 14:18know, like when multinational corporations are maybe
- 14:21negotiating with the Nigerian government, you know, you can't
- 14:23play those kind of games and offer some discount and, you
- 14:28know, get people to move early. But that's because money is big,
- 14:31big, big, big, big. But we haven't entered those
- 14:33hundreds of millions, hundreds of billions level yet.
- 14:37So at this level, you offer this thing to somebody who already
- 14:40had high urgency to move. So somebody who told you that he
- 14:43wants to move by August 30th. And then, you know, you've had
- 14:48this conversation with your guy in the office and you know,
- 14:52well, it's August 1st. You can call the person and say,
- 14:55you know what, we can lock in this price for you at a 5%
- 14:59discount. So long as you're ready to pay
- 15:01by next week Wednesday, then August will now just go ahead
- 15:05and start like that. That kind of person can quickly
- 15:08move. So remember this discount game
- 15:13that you want to play, high value and high urgency.
- 15:17The money is a big, if it's big, go ahead, make the call.
- 15:22Urgency is the person time bound?
- 15:26Is there something that they're aiming towards?
- 15:29Have they let it slip or have they told you that look anyhow,
- 15:31anyhow, December 1st, we have to move that kind of thing.
- 15:34You really have a clear timeline then go ahead, call that person.
- 15:38Then the structure of the call is like this.
- 15:39Good morning, Sir, or good morning Ma.
- 15:41Good news. I've spoken to my OGA because
- 15:44you know, you're my guy. I've been rooting for you.
- 15:46So August say we can offer you concession.
- 15:49So what we can do is we can give you 5% discount.
- 15:54What that means is on every five M, that's 250K.
- 15:57That's what it means for you. But The thing is, organ say we
- 16:01can only give this concession to people who want to pay before
- 16:04XYZ date. Are you interested?
- 16:07That's how you start the conversation.
- 16:10So Please remember, don't go with big number.
- 16:12Big number sounds impressive, but it can be counterproductive.
- 16:16Don't now disbelieve you. You say your price gouging and
- 16:19then there's this thing where it's not just a Nigerian thing,
- 16:23it's rolled over. Somebody was saying everything
- 16:25is so good, why is it that cheap?
- 16:28So if you show up and you're willing to remove 50%, some
- 16:30people who actually start thinking this one, that these
- 16:33guys are moving 50%, this thing is not quality.
- 16:37The quality is not, is not good quality is not on par.
- 16:43So don't want to be calling big numbers.
- 16:46Remember, traditionally 2 to 3%, those of you who want to be
- 16:49stubborn, I know you've moved to 5% and then it's high value only
- 16:55big money, high urgency. The person is ready, ready to
- 16:58take action. So that's one of the ways that
- 17:00we deal with the discounting issues.
- 17:02But to be honest, you know, I'm consulting for you or I'm
- 17:05training for you. You come at me with this price
- 17:08thing and I will say, look, let's leave this price thing.
- 17:10The price is the price. I'm just letting you know ahead
- 17:12of time for those of you who do call and then we start working
- 17:15together. I will not be entertaining
- 17:16pricing discussions. The only pricing discussion that
- 17:19I will entertain is when we say can we review this price up
- 17:23because there are lots of you that are severely underpriced.
- 17:26Even me my making this recording right now.
- 17:28I know I'm underpriced. What I'm trying to do is I'm
- 17:32doing what do they call it again?
- 17:34Is it market entry, Market entry pricing?
- 17:37That's my strategy. But yeah, I know I'm
- 17:39underpriced. So for me, there's no price
- 17:42conversation where I'm removing something.
- 17:44I'm only adding. I will only be getting more
- 17:48expensive with time. I'm not going to be getting
- 17:50cheaper, especially in Nigeria of the day with hyperinflation.
- 17:56So that's one on the discounting.
- 17:59So let me check my notes. So second thing, I didn't really
- 18:04bring it up with them sharp, but let me bring it up with you
- 18:06guys. That's this thing of the
- 18:08customer buying cycle. Now a lot of us are selling
- 18:11complex products. Complex products are, you know,
- 18:14expensive stuff usually have multiple parties that you're
- 18:17talking with. What else?
- 18:19Relationships are important and the sales cycle is long.
- 18:22So that means you're going to be talking.
- 18:27So like, before you engage a consultant, it's not a simple
- 18:29thing that you call somebody on Monday, you pay them money on
- 18:31Wednesday. You know, you want to talk to
- 18:33them, shoot them out, check their website, think about it,
- 18:37think of your priorities, you know, before you pay.
- 18:41So when you're in a complex sales situation and the deal is
- 18:49not going to close like that, like that because like for
- 18:52simple things like, OK, like mayonnaise.
- 18:56So my wife wanted to make breakfast this morning.
- 18:58She's actually gonna buy mayonnaise trying to make
- 18:59breakfast for the kids make them something nice, which is why
- 19:04mothers are good because left to me there's bread in the fridge,
- 19:07there's butter in the fridge. Like what are we talking about
- 19:09breakfast sauteed or she wants to make something nice sausage
- 19:14mayonnaise, you know, make something good.
- 19:18So I appreciate your mother's. You know, they give color to to
- 19:22life. Where was I Uh huh.
- 19:26So go and buy mayonnaise. So down is a simple sale.
- 19:28I went there. Oh boy, do you have mayonnaise
- 19:30and say yes, so where is it? Say it's over there.
- 19:33The idiot he said is over there. See these are things that kill
- 19:37your business in other shops now in Abuja, they don't say it's
- 19:42over there, they say 1 moment Sir, let me go get it for you.
- 19:46The person will now go and bring 3 containers and then show you
- 19:49and say this is what we have available.
- 19:51Sir, we have this one, this one is Heinz, this one is this, this
- 19:54one is this. This one is UK, this one is
- 19:57Niger, this one is Kotunu, this one is 50 L, This one is, you
- 20:01know which one do you want to buy?
- 20:03You see, that's how you move business forward.
- 20:05But idiot just sat down there and say he's over there.
- 20:07He pointed. I said to myself, it's not your
- 20:09fault. It's because there's no other
- 20:11shop open on a Sunday morning. And I went to go and pick the
- 20:15thing myself. So how much is this one?
- 20:18How much is this one? This one is X amount, this one
- 20:20is X amount. The one that was expensive, I
- 20:22put that one down. I said I'll bro, I scanned this
- 20:24one. So I took that one and then I
- 20:25left. Is it as a simple sale scenario?
- 20:29No pricing, no haggling, no time, no nothing.
- 20:34Bros, do you have mayonnaise? Yes, it's over there.
- 20:38By the way, those of you who are listening, stop.
- 20:40That is over there. BS Nigeria is changing now.
- 20:44We're becoming a much more customer, customer centric
- 20:49society, customer focused society.
- 20:51So please be professional about this.
- 20:53Somebody said you have mayonnaise.
- 20:55I say yes ma'am, we have mayonnaise in store.
- 20:57Just one moment. You walk over there, always
- 21:00present people with options. Pick three cans, you pick option
- 21:04A, option B, option C, and you bring you to Madame.
- 21:06And then you let Madame make her choice.
- 21:10Madame doesn't know what's up. You educate her a little.
- 21:12It's OK, Madame. What are you trying to do with
- 21:14the mayonnaise? I say, oh, OK, sorry, it's me.
- 21:17That is my Oga. Oga.
- 21:18What are you trying to do with the mayonnaise?
- 21:20Well, my dad wants to make breakfast for the children.
- 21:22She says she wants to make a sandwich.
- 21:23Oh, OK, sandwich. So traditionally what we do is
- 21:25we do Heinz or we do this or we do that.
- 21:28Those are the perfect whatever for for sandwiches.
- 21:31OK, How much does a sandwich one cost?
- 21:33Because this that, that, that, that.
- 21:35But I've already anchored that This is the one that is fit for
- 21:37purpose. Even though it's more expensive.
- 21:39Then you now sell the more expensive item.
- 21:41So you see how that thing works. Don't sit down.
- 21:43Your chance. It is over there.
- 21:45You're the owner of the shop. That's why people are paying you
- 21:48get off the chair and move and sell your product.
- 21:54Anyway. Sorry, don't mind me, where was
- 21:56I? So that's a simple sale.
- 22:00Do you have a pussy? Do you have mayonnaise?
- 22:02Simple. But in cars complex sale.
- 22:06You go there or God. Do you have Nissan?
- 22:08Yes, I have Nissan. Which year?
- 22:122025 model day 2020 model day 1989 model day.
- 22:17You will now start discussing, discussing, discussing.
- 22:20I'm coming, You will talk to your wife, you will come back.
- 22:23You talk again, you say I'm coming, you come with your
- 22:25brother, you do test drive, I'm coming, I'm coming.
- 22:28You go, you come back, you come with your mechanic.
- 22:30Look around. In other words, somebody can
- 22:33start discussing to buy a brand new car January 1st.
- 22:35The person might now pay. You know, February 3rd complex
- 22:40sale. You don't just come and buy
- 22:42immediately. So it's the same thing with my
- 22:44three Musketeers. Now what they're selling is
- 22:46solar. Nobody calls you to say what's
- 22:48up, do you have solar on January 1st?
- 22:50And then by January 3rd they have transferred the money.
- 22:53Now there's some bigger boys or some bigger girls who look, they
- 22:55don't want stress. So that will happen.
- 22:57They'll come and say how much is it and 10 million, only 10
- 23:00million. What's your account number?
- 23:02If I transfer it now, you will start work tomorrow morning and
- 23:04then they will just transfer. So yes, bigger boys day, but
- 23:09it's not a guarantee for most people.
- 23:11They will call you January 1st. You have 1-2 discussions, you
- 23:16say, let me think about it. You'll call again, you'll call
- 23:19again and maybe end of the month targeting salary.
- 23:22That's when they will now pay. So complex sale when you're
- 23:31dealing with the complex sales environment, complex sales are
- 23:34high touch. High touch just means you will
- 23:36call them multiple times. This is not something you just
- 23:39do one call. Remember the mayonnaise?
- 23:42I went there. Oh boy, do you have mayonnaise?
- 23:44Yes, The thing is over there, 2 minutes, we finished.
- 23:49There's no multiple touch. But as the price goes up and as
- 23:53the complexity of the situation goes up, by default, you need
- 23:58multiple touches. Yeah.
- 24:02What's up, Sir? The person that I spoke to
- 24:04yesterday. Oh, yes, yes, I remember
- 24:06concerning your interest in blah, blah, blah.
- 24:07I remember perfectly. I sent you a proposal on that,
- 24:10that that. Have you had a look at it?
- 24:11Oh, yes, but I'm concerned about this.
- 24:13That that that you people talk, talk, talk, talk, talk, talk,
- 24:15talk, talk, talk, talk. You know what?
- 24:17I'm not convinced. OK, no problem.
- 24:18I can send the engineer over to the house next week Wednesday.
- 24:22Would that be OK? OK, yes.
- 24:23No problem. You caught the call.
- 24:25You see, high touch. The person called.
- 24:27The first time you guys spoke. You called The second time you
- 24:30guys spoke. You sent proposal, you called
- 24:33again, you guys spoke. He's not happy with one or two
- 24:36things. Then you say you're sending
- 24:38engineer. Engineer will go and go and
- 24:40assess. You can see multiple touch.
- 24:43That's like 4 phone calls and then you send one engineer
- 24:48before you close the deal. Now, because the things we're
- 24:51talking about are expensive. For something to be a complex
- 24:56sale scenario, by definition it has to be expensive.
- 24:58So it's worth it. All these credits that you're
- 25:01doing, Internet that you're doing, then you pay your
- 25:05engineer transport, go come. And of course engineer has to
- 25:08buy a gallon on the road now. I mean, he has to eat something.
- 25:10So all that money that you're spending, you know, it's OK
- 25:14because it's complex sales. So you can see that it's high
- 25:16touch. So for those of you who are
- 25:19spending expensive items, just know that it's high touch log.
- 25:23This is not for luxury. It's different.
- 25:24Luxury goods is different because part of the luxury
- 25:28experience is trying to show that you know you you have
- 25:30arrived like you're confirm big boy.
- 25:32So expensive items in the luxury space.
- 25:34You know, that's now and is different.
- 25:36The trip is that they'll pay one time.
- 25:41So people who buy Lamborghini, they don't do part, part
- 25:44payments. There's no part payment for
- 25:45Lamborghini. You go there and you pay cash.
- 25:50In fact, you buy 2/1 for maybe you can buy 41 for you, one for
- 25:54your brother, one for your wife, your son that has done 18/1 for
- 25:58him too. So that's how it is.
- 26:01So in the luxury segment, even though it's very expensive, the
- 26:04payment is, you know, about one time, but we're not talking
- 26:09luxury now. And those of you who sell
- 26:12luxury, please ignore the stuff that I'm saying about high
- 26:15touch. Well, for everybody else,
- 26:18because Sola is not luxury, it's going to be high touch.
- 26:22Be ready to make multiple visits, multiple calls, multiple
- 26:26Zoom session, multiple WhatsApp call, multiple messages.
- 26:29It's high touch now to maintain expectations or to give you the
- 26:34right sense of expectations. When we're dealing with high
- 26:36touch sales environments, there's this thing that is
- 26:39called the, what's it called now?
- 26:41The customer. Hi, what's it called now?
- 26:46The customer journey, The customer journey, I think it's
- 26:50called the customer journey. I can't remember.
- 26:52I don't talk about it much because quite frankly, it's not
- 26:54something that I agree with because in most situations it's
- 26:58not as if the customer has a well laid out thought process of
- 27:02I want to buy solar. So you can't really say there's
- 27:06a customer journey per SE, but you know, if you look at things
- 27:09statistically, you see that yes, people move through certain
- 27:11stages when they're trying to buy some things and they're
- 27:14trying to consider some things. So if you sit down and you think
- 27:17about the customer journey, you can map the different stages and
- 27:21you can now see, OK, this is how I fit into this process.
- 27:25So you now know how you'll be pacing yourself.
- 27:27When it comes to follow up. Remember, I prefer to say follow
- 27:31through. I'm not saying follow up for
- 27:32those of you who are on in on initiated in the ways of this
- 27:36broadcast. So you will now know how to pace
- 27:39your follow up, how to pace your follow through because you
- 27:41understand the customer buying process, the customer mind map
- 27:46when it comes to buying. So traditionally now this is
- 27:52what people say when it comes to the product buying cycle.
- 27:57So stage 1 is awareness. Awareness is, oh, I have a
- 28:01problem, and stage 2 is consideration of research.
- 28:06Consideration and research is, yeah, OK, I have a problem, let
- 28:09me start trying to see how I can solve this problem.
- 28:12Then stage 3 is decision and evaluation.
- 28:15OK, I've looked at one or two options, and I'm talking to
- 28:18Kelechi and Sons, I'm talking to Kemi, and I'm talking to
- 28:21Tavishima. Of the three of them, who am I
- 28:24going to go with then #4 is purchase and installation.
- 28:29That means I've decided let me transfer the money, let
- 28:32Tavishima come and install my solar system.
- 28:35So that's how it works. So again, the stages, awareness
- 28:40or problem trigger what the person realizes.
- 28:42Hey, I have a problem. Consideration and research.
- 28:46That's where they're doing, fact finding, gathering information,
- 28:50checking online, talking to one or two people, then decision and
- 28:54evaluation. That's where they're now
- 28:56starting to control. Prices with a boy fee is this
- 28:59amount with Alhaji is this amount and then with Madam so,
- 29:06so, so and so is this amount then purchase and installation,
- 29:09you pay. We're ready to move ahead.
- 29:12So now let's look at that regarding solar.
- 29:13And then you see how it helps you to be pacing yourself.
- 29:16You know how you go the follow person, you know, whether it's
- 29:20close marking, whether is you give them space, you know, maybe
- 29:23you call today and then you chill and then you call next
- 29:26week and then you chill or whether it's quick marking, call
- 29:28them Monday, call them Wednesday, call them Friday,
- 29:30call them Sunday. By the way, when we are talking
- 29:37complex sales, in complex sales, close marking doesn't work.
- 29:42You come across as desperate. So we shall learn to have some
- 29:46restraint. So call somebody on Monday, call
- 29:50them on Tuesday, call them on Wednesday, call them on
- 29:52Thursday. I assure you by Friday they
- 29:53block you. Like this guy's a nuisance.
- 29:56I have a problem. But but honestly, these guys a
- 29:59nuisance. They block you.
- 30:01So when it comes to complex sales, relax.
- 30:03For simple sales, you can be doing close marking and you can
- 30:07do high pressure. So like when I was standing in
- 30:09that guy's store now and I was looking at the mayonnaise, I was
- 30:12holding the three cans. The guy could have said OK, are
- 30:15you buying or not? That 1 is OK because it's a
- 30:18simple sales in the environment. If you have somebody like that,
- 30:21depending on how you ask, it might be rude.
- 30:22It might not be rude, but you can ask when it comes to buying
- 30:26car or buying solar or complex stuff, you somehow for it as a
- 30:30person who look orga are you buying or not?
- 30:31If you're not buying, leave my shop.
- 30:33You know it's somehow. So that's why you need to know.
- 30:38Are you in a simple sale or are you in a complex sale?
- 30:41This is how it determines how you sell your how you sell your
- 30:45approach. You can be high torch and high
- 30:47pressure in some environments. In some environments, it will be
- 30:50too much. All right, so now in the
- 30:54awareness stage or the problem trigger stage, that will be like
- 30:57when people realize that there's a problem, People realize that
- 31:00look, you know what, in this neighborhood, never they take
- 31:03light too much. There's a problem or the person
- 31:08realizes that what the hell? Last month, how much did we
- 31:12spend on diesel? 700K, This is madness.
- 31:15On top diesel alone, that's a problem For some people, it's
- 31:21noise. Remember when in Lagos, what was
- 31:23the noise? Because we lived on Amina
- 31:25Crescent, yeah, Miller Crest and I was off 20 St. then 20 St. was
- 31:30off Allen Ave. the famous Allen Ave.
- 31:34Whenever Nepal takes like just because everybody has Gen. even
- 31:39we had like, is it 7.5, is it kilowatt or whatever, you know,
- 31:43big, big Gen. Now everything is supposed to
- 31:45have noise insulation, but still it doesn't change the fact that
- 31:48in your own compound, the neighbor compound everywhere,
- 31:53because Nepal is taking light and then I'll smoke again.
- 31:58So that one is also a sign that look there's a problem.
- 32:00This noise is much yes, we ran Jane overnight while I can't
- 32:03sleep. We need something quieter like I
- 32:07carried easy. Therefore, some people use
- 32:10equipment malfunction current goes up current goes down for
- 32:13you know it Olga decreases, but deep freezer.
- 32:15How do we not fix compressor last month he said, do we know
- 32:19by fridge guard, but the current is jumping up and down blah blah
- 32:22blah. See, there's a problem.
- 32:24So awareness now around solar products or around inverters,
- 32:28these are the things NEPA don't take light too much.
- 32:30The cost of generator is too high, the fuel cost is too high,
- 32:34you know, because of teenable economy.
- 32:36Then the noise is too much and then things don't spoil around
- 32:39the house. People now are aware I have a
- 32:42problem. How can I fix this thing my
- 32:46brother say or my neighbor said or I heard that inverter can
- 32:50this or solar can this or this disease that that the person is
- 32:53now problem aware. So you as a salesperson now when
- 32:58you meet the person at this stage your needs be a helpful
- 33:02resource. You know she said Olga, I
- 33:06understand no problem. Yes, these are the sorts of
- 33:09problems that we can solve. OK, so the next step is what
- 33:12we're going to do is we're going to do a power audit on energy
- 33:15assessment because we need to figure out exactly what it is in
- 33:18the house that needs to be powered or exactly where this
- 33:20problem is coming from. Now your equipment is
- 33:23malfunctioning so that even when we install the solar, we'll know
- 33:26how we'll put backup systems in place or prevention systems in
- 33:31place to prevent this, prevent that.
- 33:32So I look, I'm not technically minded.
- 33:35So those of you who sell solar, you know, I'm sure you can see
- 33:37that I'm making some stuff up, but you get the idea where I'm
- 33:40heading to helpful resource. The next stage is consideration
- 33:46and research, whether trying to do information gathering,
- 33:48information gathering. Now for people who are looking
- 33:51to buy solar, they'll be thinking of cost.
- 33:52First of all, how much my brother say he fixed his own at
- 34:0015,000,000 or my brother is a big boy me, I'm not a big boy
- 34:03me, I don't want to spend more than 8 million.
- 34:06They are thinking cost me of course system size, how many
- 34:10kilowatts water can carry freezer and deep freezer, how
- 34:12many AC, all these kinds of things.
- 34:14Then of course types of brands. And believe me, this is going to
- 34:19be very confusing for people in the solar space because the
- 34:22average Nigerian person like waiting concerning Nigerian
- 34:25concerning solar. So really this is the first time
- 34:28they're here in all these brands for you, you're in the space,
- 34:31you're comfortable with all the brands for them, it's the first
- 34:33time. All of this is overwhelming.
- 34:36And then financing options, that's for people who can't pay
- 34:39upfront. So you can see consideration and
- 34:41research. Now they're doing all this
- 34:43information and gathering your job there as a salesperson is be
- 34:47a helpful resource, be educating them.
- 34:52One of the salespeople that I'm training, if I has even started
- 34:56using my own way of talking about it because may I say that
- 34:59look, information is free. Implementation is all we pay
- 35:02for. The guy started saying the thing
- 35:03to what is proper attitude. Yeah, Information is free.
- 35:07Yeah. What questions do you have?
- 35:08I can ask any questions. Where are you stuck?
- 35:10What don't you understand? Don't worry about the
- 35:13information is free. Any question you have, just be,
- 35:16just be talking. Our answer, the scope is this.
- 35:19The more that they talk, the more questions that you answer,
- 35:22the more that you have an opportunity to build rapport and
- 35:24to form a connection so that you leave an impression in the
- 35:29woman's head or in the man's head.
- 35:31Because let's face it, this Niger in fact is world over.
- 35:34Anybody who is trying to solve these kind of problems is
- 35:36talking to two or three people. You just happen to be the person
- 35:40on the phone for now. She can finish that call with
- 35:43you now and go and start talking to somebody else.
- 35:46Want to make sure that we're leaving a good impression.
- 35:48So education is free. Be educating the people.
- 35:53These are the things that go into determining the cost.
- 35:56These are the factors when it comes to system size.
- 35:58These are the different kinds of brands that we have.
- 36:00Therefore, my own customer, my client now who they're
- 36:02particular about quality. So yeah, so these kind of brands
- 36:05exist, but the reason why we don't play with these brands is
- 36:08because if something happens, the equipment manufacturer, they
- 36:13don't send support staff on time.
- 36:15So we don't deal with them because we only want to deal
- 36:17with the brands that if something is wrong, our engineer
- 36:20will be on site today. Then once we discover what the
- 36:24problem is, if we need support from the equipment manufacturer,
- 36:27they'll be on site tomorrow. So you educate them.
- 36:33Then of course, you know, financing well down is a touchy
- 36:36topic because unfortunately financing is is expensive
- 36:39because financing essentially is taking a loan to buy these
- 36:42things. So that's consideration stage
- 36:44and research. The next is decision and
- 36:46evaluation. That is where they're actively
- 36:49comparing. So your job as a salesperson now
- 36:51in that environment is you're trying to, since they're doing
- 36:55compare and contrast, you too help them with compare and
- 36:58contrast. This is where you now start
- 36:59showing social proof. These are the kinds of buildings
- 37:03that we have worked on similar to yours and these are the
- 37:05similar products and similar, you know, whatever you don't
- 37:08start sending links to your website or the videos that you
- 37:12have stored on your phone about the projects that you have that
- 37:15you've done. And then you now start
- 37:19discussing things in more details.
- 37:22The difference in quality and specs of the difference in
- 37:24warranty and guarantee. This one is OK, but it's only
- 37:28one year warranty. But if you go with this one,
- 37:30this one is five year guarantee. This is what the warranty means,
- 37:35ma this is what the guarantee means and essentially the 10
- 37:38year guarantee what that means. If if any of XBCXYZ problems
- 37:43solved, we will come and fix it from our own pocket.
- 37:48But the warranty only covers this kind of defect, this kind
- 37:51of defect. You have those conversations, of
- 37:54course, you're also chipping, you know, experience.
- 37:56We've been doing this for 25 years.
- 37:59Our installers are properly trained and so, so, so, so, so
- 38:01we have a reputation in the market to maintain, you know,
- 38:03all those sorts of things. That's when they had the
- 38:06decision and evaluation stage. So you're now talking, you know,
- 38:10all these things. These are the things you're
- 38:13you're now discussing. Now the reason why I'm bringing
- 38:18this up, remember we're talking about customer, customer
- 38:23purchasing journey or the customer purchasing mind map or
- 38:26something, I can't remember. And you see now that that
- 38:29different stage awareness, consideration, decision of all
- 38:32these issues that we have been talking about.
- 38:34Can you see that there's no way to have all these conversations
- 38:36in one day. You can't have all these
- 38:39conversations in one day. All these issues I've been
- 38:41talking about, which is why you need to pace yourself and have a
- 38:45plan. That is how I could follow them.
- 38:48Small, small, small, small. One call to one call to one call
- 38:55this I'll be following them like that, like that, like that
- 38:58steady. So don't be too, you know, like
- 39:03you're rushing, rushing, rushing, like calm down.
- 39:07The talk is plenty. All these issues that I've
- 39:10mentioned, you've seen that the issues is plenty.
- 39:12As your black people say it's more the issues is more you
- 39:16can't just talk in one time so steady pace yourself.
- 39:21That is one thing unfortunately that lots of Nigerian sales
- 39:23people don't realize. This is a complex sale.
- 39:25You can't force this thing because the person called
- 39:28January 1st doesn't mean that you collect your money.
- 39:31January 7th, January 8th doesn't work like that.
- 39:35But of course, you take your dressing from the other person.
- 39:37If the other person feels like we can move faster, be following
- 39:40them and move fast. If it sound like the person
- 39:44needs to move at the measured pace, follow them.
- 39:47I'll be measuring. Now the final thing is purchase
- 39:50and installation. And this is also where lots of
- 39:53people make the mistake. Purchase and installation does
- 39:55means the person pays money, but and then you come and install.
- 39:58Most people think my job is done, I've collected money,
- 40:01that's it, that's a mistake. I repeat, that's a mistake.
- 40:08Lots of people talk about sales. They say closing a sale.
- 40:10Actually we're not closing a sale.
- 40:11We are opening a relationship. Because the hope is if we sell
- 40:15one solar system today, want the person to be on good terms, good
- 40:18vibes with us. So that by the time the person
- 40:21hears that somebody in church or somebody at work wants to do
- 40:25solar, they will say, I have some boys and these boys are
- 40:27professional. Give my boys a call.
- 40:30They sorted me out. These boys do not disappoint
- 40:32you. So we're not closing a deal, we
- 40:36are opening a relationship. So the fact that they have
- 40:39transferred several M to your account doesn't mean, you know,
- 40:44we install and then we go. Now the people who are going to
- 40:48do installation, those ones, they're separate because you
- 40:51know, you, you're possible for sales.
- 40:53So what do you know about installing?
- 40:54Although in this guy's my clients company, the people are
- 40:58sales engineers. So which really means that, you
- 41:00know, they know the work. They're also technical.
- 41:03So of the three people who sell, two of them are technical.
- 41:06So that means worst case scenario, they can go down a
- 41:09whole spanner and be doing everything too.
- 41:11So they know the work. By the way, it helps because
- 41:15Brian Tracy says that. What's it called?
- 41:18Again? Forgive me, you know, I didn't
- 41:21write all these things. Now that product knowledge, yes,
- 41:24that product knowledge is the foundation of selling.
- 41:26Product knowledge means you know this product inside and out.
- 41:30If you're sleeping and they slap you and they ask you a question
- 41:32about your product, you'll be able to answer the question
- 41:34straight. So these are some of the things
- 41:37that make us convincing salespeople we know this thing
- 41:39inside, outside. If you're a cake Baker and
- 41:42somebody says no, why can't we use a saccharinic kind of sugar?
- 41:45You say no, no, Madam, we don't use saccharin because of this.
- 41:47That, that that is the reason why we use sugar.
- 41:49You know it. You ask me any question about
- 41:52solar, you hand side. So product knowledge, the
- 41:58foundation, make sure you know your stuff.
- 42:01So where was I? So you're the salesperson.
- 42:04Now the installer is different. So an installer will now go and
- 42:08install, then they'll now do testing and then they'll now do
- 42:11handover. But you as a salesperson, you
- 42:16still have a role to play. Number 1, you will now become
- 42:19project management coordinator for this kind of thing.
- 42:24You now once they've transferred 7M you go, you switch from sales
- 42:28mode to project management mode. You're the one.
- 42:32I'll now be coordinating everything.
- 42:34Good morning, Madam. Thank you very much for the
- 42:36transfer 7 them. We saw it yesterday.
- 42:39We sent you a receipt in the e-mail.
- 42:40Have you seen it? Oh yes, I've seen the e-mail.
- 42:43Thank you very much, Madam. Don't forget the boys are coming
- 42:45to install by Friday. They're going to be there 8:00.
- 42:50Will you be at home? Oh, I totally forgot.
- 42:52I'm not going to be around. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 42:54OK, that's not a problem, man. What about your house manager,
- 42:57your houseboy? Is he going to be available?
- 43:00Say yes. OK, no problem.
- 43:01So long as there's somebody there who can give us access to
- 43:03the roof, access to the DP, access to whatever, we can start
- 43:06work. By the time you come back in the
- 43:08evening, you will still meet us there.
- 43:09Is that OK, Ma? So yes, that's fine.
- 43:12OK, Ma, since you say you'll be on the road, can I get the
- 43:16number of the person who is going to be at home, please, Ma,
- 43:18send it to me so I can call them now.
- 43:20OK. Thank you very much, Ma.
- 43:22Looking forward to hooking up. You know, now you understand
- 43:27customer service talk. She said OK, you caught the
- 43:30phone. You now call the person.
- 43:32Remember, we are in project management mode.
- 43:34She brought what's up now how you did say I'm fine.
- 43:36Who is this? Oh, sorry.
- 43:37Forgive me. My name is Kalichi.
- 43:39I just spoke to Madam. She says you're going to be
- 43:41around on Friday. What ones are going to do?
- 43:43Solar. So OK, Yes, Yes, yes, yes.
- 43:46So I was spoken to Madam. We can confirm from her when
- 43:48we're coming Friday. We'll be there around 8-9.
- 43:50All we need is this, this that, that, you know, she said you'll
- 43:54be able to give us access. There are no problems.
- 43:56OK, No, Allah. So we'll be seeing on Friday.
- 43:59Then when you're done, you will now call the boys in the office.
- 44:04Now look, Madam has paid. Oh, you boys don't, don't mess
- 44:07up. I told Madam 8:00.
- 44:09So 7:00, you boys must be on the road heading to Madam's house.
- 44:14And then warn them because, you know, installation boys, they
- 44:16can be very lazy at times. So be on their case.
- 44:20You have collected the money. You finish sales.
- 44:23Now we're switching to project management mode.
- 44:26Because this project must align. Everything must go sharp, sharp,
- 44:30sharp. You promise, Madame 8 o'clock
- 44:328:00. Your boys must be there.
- 44:36And I'm project management mode. You're now functioning as a
- 44:39liaison. Fancy word liaison.
- 44:43I learned that word when I was in primary school.
- 44:45I remember asking my father. I can't remember what.
- 44:47I pronounced it. The guy laughed.
- 44:48He said no, his liaison, and then he explained it's derived
- 44:51from French. He explained the whole thing.
- 44:53So you're now in liaison mode, project manager, liaison
- 44:56officer, begin the last with everybody to make sure that this
- 44:58project goes according to plan. And then you establish different
- 45:02points of contact. You are the point of contact for
- 45:04the business because the woman transferred the money to account
- 45:07manager, but she doesn't know account manager, she doesn't
- 45:09know CEO. It is you that she knows,
- 45:11salesperson. As far as she knows you, you're
- 45:13the face of the company. Assume the face of the company.
- 45:16You're not the point of contact. You get points of contact for
- 45:21other people in the house, whether Madam is around or Madam
- 45:25is not going to be around. Get some other people's number.
- 45:29Oh, Madam. OK, no problem.
- 45:31But just in case you can't stay for the whole day.
- 45:34OK, Your son is still around. OK, Can we have his own number?
- 45:37We just need to make sure that somebody who is lost in case we
- 45:39need this or we need that. Get all the points of contact.
- 45:44You see project management make sure everything because this is
- 45:47all part of the especially in Nigeria where boys are very,
- 45:50very unprofessional. Otherwise, not just boys, girls
- 45:53can be unprofessional too, but usually these boys who do
- 45:56installation. So boys can be very
- 45:57unprofessional. But you handle this part where
- 45:59somebody would like they'll be like, no, no, no, you people are
- 46:03the best. In fact, it's some of you don't
- 46:09know how important this is. See on what's the day self?
- 46:14OK, today is Sunday. So during the week on Thursday,
- 46:17the British Council, they had a pre departure session for people
- 46:22who have just been awarded scholarships for Schervening,
- 46:25Schervening Scholarships and Commonwealth Scholarships.
- 46:28And they were the one who provided media.
- 46:30So even though I don't do wedding photography anymore,
- 46:32there's some people that they call me, you know, I will show.
- 46:36So my corporate clients, I like to show for them because
- 46:38corporate money, you know, it's not as if it's fantastic, but at
- 46:42least they call a lot. So we went there.
- 46:47Now The thing is I had some normally what I, what I do for
- 46:52corporate classes, I like to show up 30 minutes early.
- 46:55Worst case scenario, sometimes I show up an hour early and then I
- 46:59just stay there and I'm just doing my work, you know, making
- 47:01sales calls, maybe record the podcast something.
- 47:04But this time around, because you know, in Niger, like I said,
- 47:07boys can be unreliable. So when somebody says my event
- 47:11is starting at 4:00 and then they come downstairs, 3:00,
- 47:15you're already there. They might just be calm, they
- 47:17might just cool down in their mind.
- 47:19They begin, they rank you as if you're a professional, They're
- 47:21rating as a professional. So that's some of the steeds
- 47:24that you can use in the business.
- 47:28So this thing is really, let me show you how important it is.
- 47:31So for this particular day now, I couldn't do my normal thing.
- 47:33I didn't show up one hour. I didn't show up 30 minutes, but
- 47:375:00, I was in the hall when the program was supposed to start
- 47:42and he organized it and made me answer.
- 47:45I did. Now, what happened?
- 47:47It's not like yourself that what happened.
- 47:48Was there any emergency when I had to say, well, yeah, you
- 47:53know, actually my wife travelled.
- 47:54So, you know, we had one or two things to sort out, you know,
- 47:57But, you know, I'm really sorry that I didn't show up on time
- 48:00and say no problem, well, you're here, so we haven't missed
- 48:04anything. So we continued.
- 48:06So we see how important this kind of thing is.
- 48:09Now, once you establish A reputation for yourself, you
- 48:11know, you're that guy, always on time, everything always smooth.
- 48:15The day that you depart from it, small people will think, ah, no,
- 48:20the fact that this guy didn't pull through as he normally
- 48:22does, it must be an emergency because people are concerned for
- 48:26you not to be here as you normally do.
- 48:28That it must have been a problem.
- 48:29Is everybody OK? So all these things being
- 48:33professional really, really on point.
- 48:34So now that you've collected money, you're now project
- 48:36management. You want to make sure that
- 48:38everything is professional, you know, on point.
- 48:41These are the things that will make us a very kind impression
- 48:43on all Madam or God. Now make them feel confident to
- 48:45recommend you to somebody else. People showed up on time, they
- 48:49worked when they worked, they cleaned, they didn't steal
- 48:51anything, they didn't break anything.
- 48:53All of these things make makes a difference.
- 48:55Then you know, fall into the account management role.
- 49:00Account management means, so excuse me, so account management
- 49:06means somebody has given you money, the person is now
- 49:08customer. So you now treat them as if you
- 49:10know, as if they are family. You call them once in a while
- 49:14because we're trying to maintain good relationships with these
- 49:18people. You see how we can get repeat
- 49:22business or referrals because some people don't buy system for
- 49:25the house. They just do need as tester.
- 49:28If it works out well, they cannot buy system for the
- 49:30office. So you're now in account
- 49:34management role. We are keeping up with people,
- 49:37you know. Happy New Year, Happy birthday.
- 49:39How's the system? I hope there's no problem.
- 49:42Oh, Madam, the system is almost six months old now.
- 49:45We're going to send an engineer over just to make sure that
- 49:47everything is working OK. No, don't worry.
- 49:50No, no maintenance is required. It's just part of what we do as
- 49:53a company. There's no charge, man.
- 49:55Don't worry. The engineer will just come and
- 49:56have a look around to make sure everything is cool.
- 49:59OK Madam, the system has been there one year.
- 50:01Hope everything is good. It is now that we're now going
- 50:04to have to start doing regular maintenance.
- 50:06So the next maintenance will be in about 6 months, blah blah
- 50:09blah. You know all that, that is
- 50:11account maintenance. So using the customer buying
- 50:21journey or buying mind map or whatever The thing is called,
- 50:23I'll try and confirm and then say it again next episode.
- 50:26This is how you pace yourself and this is how the role of the
- 50:29salesperson changes throughout the whole thing.
- 50:32So some of you, especially those of you who are new in the field,
- 50:35you need to adapt with the proper mindset.
- 50:37Some of you are being too fast. You're thinking sales, sales,
- 50:40sales, sales, sales. Your job changes.
- 50:42Sometimes it's consultant, sometimes it's educator,
- 50:46sometimes it's advisor, sometimes it's hardcore sales
- 50:49and sometimes it's project management and then sometimes
- 50:51it's account management and then back into sales again because
- 50:55you're trying to get a referral from the person or get another
- 50:59deal. So your role changes.
- 51:03OK, it's close to one hour, so let me just bring it to a close
- 51:05here. OK.
- 51:08I know for sure that I haven't spoken about this one before,
- 51:11this buying map thing, but for those of you who listen to an
- 51:16episode before where I've mentioned something about
- 51:17discounts, you know, apologies, I just wanted to make sure that
- 51:21I yeah, did I mention that? So summary, that's it.
- 51:25If you're involved in the context, in a complex sale,
- 51:27you're not going to close the deal with one phone call.
- 51:29It's going to be multiple phone calls.
- 51:31Prepare yourself because there's a buying process, there's a
- 51:34buying cycle. Your role will change throughout
- 51:36the buying cycle. Be following people, small,
- 51:39small. That's how you close the deal.
- 51:40Then on the discount thing, if you need to be aggressive and
- 51:44collect cash now, now, now, now, now it is only high value
- 51:47customers that you go and meet. Don't want to meet somebody that
- 51:50is only only 100K and offer the person 5% discount, 5% discount
- 51:54plus 5%. A 100K is nothing.
- 51:56So high value briefs and then high urgency, the one that
- 52:00people are ready to take action now.
- 52:04So that's it. Remember, if you would love to
- 52:07connect, you can call, send me a text message or a WhatsApp
- 52:09message on 08064662140. Thanks for your time and
- 52:16attention. I'll catch you guys in the next
- 52:18episode. And Please remember, even though
- 52:21I used solar as an example here, all these principles apply to
- 52:24whatever business. So if you're in the medical
- 52:26field, every time I said solar, remove solar and then insert
- 52:31medicine and then see how you can do it for medical.
- 52:34If you're on insurance, it's the same thing, Awareness,
- 52:38consideration, research, decision, evaluation, purchase,
- 52:43it's still the same. Remove solar, put insurance,
- 52:46it's all the same. So that's it.
- 52:48I'll catch you guys on the next episode.