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The Godfather · To All the Men I've Tolerated Before

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Speaker 1: Hey, tolerators, this is to all the men I've tolerated before.
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Speaker 1: With Naanily Katona, your weekly look at everyday misogyny. Today,
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Speaker 1: our guest is Tara, who is the rotating host and
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Speaker 1: producer of the podcast Media Maker Spotlight, and you'll remember
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Speaker 1: her as our guest for our Parasocial Relationships episode, where
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Speaker 1: we discovered I've defeated parasocial relationships by actually connecting with
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Speaker 1: people I admire. I made a promise that after this
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Speaker 1: episode I would let her come back and do a
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Speaker 1: blind pitch to me about why the Godfather trilogy is
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Speaker 1: secretly for the girls and we shouldn't write it off
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Speaker 1: as a dude's movie. So here it is, Tara. It's
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Speaker 1: your day, your moment, welcome back.
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Speaker 2: Thank you so much, Natalie. My shining moment has finally arrived.
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Speaker 2: My dad is looking out down from heaven be like
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Speaker 2: you fucking idiot.
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Speaker 1: And you know what, If that is all that comes
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Speaker 1: out of this, that he gets to have a you
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Speaker 1: fucking idiot moment, then I think we've already won. Just
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Speaker 1: to clarify for the listeners, I have not seen any
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Speaker 1: of the Godfather movies. I did get to see the
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Speaker 1: sets at the Academy Award Museum. Yeah, with the Christa
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Speaker 1: Rosa And he was like, have you seen these movies?
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Speaker 2: And I went no, So they meant nothing to you.
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Speaker 1: I mean it was pretty furniture. We took some selfies.
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Speaker 1: There was ambiance.
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Speaker 2: But did he seen them?
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Speaker 1: I think so. I think he's at least seen one.
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Speaker 1: I can't remember what his was.
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Speaker 2: No, this is unacceptable. Get him on.
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Speaker 1: And there are visuals to this episode because of the
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Speaker 1: pitch deck that you requested that you get to make,
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Speaker 1: and it is on Patreon under a free post and
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Speaker 1: it's a Canva link so you can follow along. And
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Speaker 1: I've heard that there's clips from the movie. All right, well,
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Speaker 1: I think they're ready. This is the first time that
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Speaker 1: I've taken a backseat on my own podcast. It's your day.
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Speaker 1: Oh you're in charge.
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Speaker 2: That's just exciting.
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Speaker 1: I might even just mute myself.
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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I need your input and okay, okay,
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Speaker 2: so I would spoilers ahead, but like, get over it.
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Speaker 2: It's not even about the spoilers. Okay. So the Godfather
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Speaker 2: and I did ask one of my oldest and dearest
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Speaker 2: and best friend who also loves the Godfather trilogy, to
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Speaker 2: help me out with this, okay. So and she was like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I hadn't seen part three so long, so we actually
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Speaker 2: rewatched it. Did you see my message to you?
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Speaker 1: Where did the message end up? Maybe?
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Speaker 2: Okay? I was like, oh, I gotta take a shot
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Speaker 2: of this, like a screenshot.
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Speaker 1: No Discord loves to not tell me that I have from.
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Speaker 2: I am working hard man, And we were like thinking
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Speaker 2: the outline. She's like, yeah, yeah, good, okay. Anyway, so
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Speaker 2: The Godfather it's for the chicks, not dix.
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Speaker 1: I think that that you should start printing that on
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Speaker 1: the movie poster and you know.
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Speaker 2: No offense to non binary and all that stuff. But
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Speaker 2: we had to make it clever.
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Speaker 1: You have to rhyme rhyming.
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Speaker 2: So yes, The Godfather, okay, doing it? Okay, here we go.
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Speaker 2: So first, a little bit of background. Why is this
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Speaker 2: movie so damn popular? And there's always this like confusion
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Speaker 2: like or debate. Is The Godfather Part one released in
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Speaker 2: etherly nineteen seventy two and then Part three part two
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Speaker 2: released in nineteen seventy four. I actually need a double
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Speaker 2: check on that. Which one is better?
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Speaker 1: Right? And all this stuff?
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Speaker 2: All right, let's just get to it. It really, honestly,
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Speaker 2: I would say if you think about how what makes
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Speaker 2: a film a great film, these films meet all the criteria.
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Speaker 2: Everyone was like born to play these roles. So it
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Speaker 2: was wonderful acting. The score is gorgeous. You know the score.
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you've heard it. Yeah, I don't know if
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Speaker 2: we are allowed to play it, and so I didn't
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Speaker 2: really want to put it up for copyright reasons. But
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Speaker 2: and it's by so the director and co screenwriter is
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Speaker 2: Francis pour Coppola. His father is the musical score composer. Okay,
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Speaker 2: And I think ultimately it is a relatable story. Particularly
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Speaker 2: it could be argument argued for Americans, but wait for it.
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Speaker 2: It is ultimately about a family legacy. So we start
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Speaker 2: with Godfather Part one and it's based on a book
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Speaker 2: by Mario Puzzo and Vito Corleone. Was that is the
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Speaker 2: god the Godfather meaning like the head of the mafia basically,
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Speaker 2: but it was this organization and the mafia isn't extremely respected,
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Speaker 2: particularly in Sicily and all that stuff like that background, right,
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Speaker 2: and they were really come to Uh. People went to
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Speaker 2: them when they needed something, more so than to the
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Speaker 2: cops or a lawyer perhaps and things like that. So
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Speaker 2: he was very and he became the head of that
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Speaker 2: hence the name the Godfather. And so Mario Putzo, being Sicilian,
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Speaker 2: you know, wrote about it and all that stuff. But
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Speaker 2: he kind of showed this family and this legacy of
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Speaker 2: how Vito goes from Sicily and take escapes there to
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Speaker 2: make it to Ellis Island and ends up in New
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Speaker 2: York City, and then he has four children and through
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Speaker 2: the course after World War Two, the course of how
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Speaker 2: his children end up taking over the family business. And
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Speaker 2: so it's like this family legacy, this immigrant story, and ultimately,
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Speaker 2: I think, and this is why I argue could be
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Speaker 2: for Americans the American dream, right. Many immigrants come to
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Speaker 2: America to make a better life for themselves because nowhere
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Speaker 2: else in America was there like this idea that you
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Speaker 2: can be so successful from nothing, particularly at the time
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Speaker 2: of like the is it like the nineteen early nineteen hundreds,
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Speaker 2: right when there was a huge upscale people coming from Europe,
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Speaker 2: from China, from other parts of Asia, all that stuff.
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Speaker 2: So I was like, this is for me from my
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Speaker 2: family that they came from Iran. My dad came, he
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Speaker 2: always wanted to come to America, came for college and
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Speaker 2: he did everything he could to stay you know, worked
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Speaker 2: at a bank, all that stuff, became a lawyer, all
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Speaker 2: this stuff. So I very much related to the children.
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Speaker 2: You're like, Okay, they worked so hard to get here,
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Speaker 2: and we cannot screw this up. Spoiler alert, the sun
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Speaker 2: screws up. So I think, but on top of that,
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Speaker 2: and also to stay true to your roots on top
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Speaker 2: of it, because guess what America eat that great. It's
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Speaker 2: very racist, and that's one of the clips. And so
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Speaker 2: that's also one of the things because Italians and this
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Speaker 2: more specifically Sicilians, because there is slightly a difference they
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Speaker 2: were seeing not white and dirty and all sorts of stuff.
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Speaker 2: So Michael, the youngest son who ends up becoming the Godfather,
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Speaker 2: which is what Godfather Part two is about his rise
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Speaker 2: and fall, arguably also about part three, is sort of
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Speaker 2: talking about that.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: Does that make sense?
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Speaker 1: Yeah?
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Speaker 2: How do you keep your roots but still grow within
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Speaker 2: the American dream and be recognized as an American because
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Speaker 2: I'm born in this country but they won't accept me.
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Speaker 2: So how do I juggle this right and build off
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Speaker 2: of it? And I think that's what people really are
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Speaker 2: drawn to, regardless of your gender, regardless of your background
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Speaker 2: as well as the musical school are acting, and yeah,
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Speaker 2: there's some problems with it because make note, it takes
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Speaker 2: place after World War Two, so the film was made
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Speaker 2: in the early seventies, so it's supposed to take place
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Speaker 2: in like late forties, early fifties, and so you can
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Speaker 2: kind of tell in this cover like Diane Keaton's wig
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Speaker 2: is so big, you know, some of the outfits are
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Speaker 2: a little bit like what was that how they dressed
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Speaker 2: in the fifties and forties.
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Speaker 1: I don't know, but you.
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Speaker 2: Know, so it's sort of distracting. But then you're engrossed
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Speaker 2: in the writing, in the acting, in the cinematography. It's dark,
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Speaker 2: but there's a reason for it to be dark and
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Speaker 2: all that stuff, so you forgive all those other stuff.
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Speaker 2: So it's quite interesting because when I was watching the
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Speaker 2: behind the scenes, I was like, oh, yay, yours are ridiculous.
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Speaker 2: Side note, he does have a place soft spot in
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Speaker 2: my heart because the reason why I loved it, I
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Speaker 2: love it too, and I say it's a great father
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Speaker 2: daughter movie is my dad was studying for the bar
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Speaker 2: exam and he became a lawyer on his fiftieth birthday.
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Speaker 2: But he bought the Godfather DVD series. It had just
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Speaker 2: come out part one, two, three plus like never before
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Speaker 2: seen footage and all this stuff, and so he's like,
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Speaker 2: oh my god. And one weekend I was at his
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Speaker 2: place and I was like, what do you do when
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Speaker 2: I was sixteen? And he's like, I gotta study for
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Speaker 2: the bar exam. And I was like, oh, okay, I'm bored,
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Speaker 2: and he's like, well, I did have as the Godfather
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Speaker 2: and you've never seen it. We ended up watching and
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Speaker 2: this is how you should watch it, Part one, part two,
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Speaker 2: like right after another.
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Speaker 1: I cried.
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Speaker 2: I was like, I loved Sonny. Sonny's played by James Kahn.
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Speaker 2: I love him all sorts of stuff and everything. And
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Speaker 2: then when part three he's like, Okay, I really need
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Speaker 2: to study, and he was like, so I heard it's
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Speaker 2: like a terrible movie. Is like it really isn't you
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Speaker 2: should watch it? I just I don't need to skip studying.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, he can't watch it. So there is.
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Speaker 2: And that's why I mentioned my dad earlier, but in general,
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Speaker 2: and I think that's also goes back to the family
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Speaker 2: legacy and the relatability story. I could see that too.
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Speaker 1: Any questions how So that's Marlon Brando right in.
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Speaker 2: The Yes, you'll see him like it was a little mustache.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, How many of these people who are
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Speaker 1: cast in the movie are from Sicilian or Italian?
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Speaker 2: Question? Yeah, yeah, I would say a lot of them.
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Speaker 2: So Marlon Brando I believe is Sicilian, or at least
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Speaker 2: partially so. The second son, Fredo is at least Italian.
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Speaker 2: Francis Rocoppola is Italian and Sicilian, I believe so. His
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Speaker 2: sister who plays Connie, the only daughter, Talia Shire, is
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Speaker 2: Francis Fourcoppola's sister and she plays the only daughter. She
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Speaker 2: therefore is also Sicilian or at least Italian. And al
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Speaker 2: Pacino is so out of the four children. And Sonny
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Speaker 2: is played by James Kahn, who has, fun fact, won
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Speaker 2: twice Sicilian of the Year and he is not Sicilian.
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Speaker 2: He is German Jewish, but he is good friends with
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Speaker 2: Francis Warcoppola and he's like, Sonny or James, Jimmy, I
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Speaker 2: need you to play Sonny. Your Sonny. He's like, yeah, dude,
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Speaker 2: your problem. So it was an interesting thing, and it's
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Speaker 2: a great question. And we'll get to the casting because
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Speaker 2: it is important. And within the cast there's you know,
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Speaker 2: their henchmen and all that stuff. I believe most of
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Speaker 2: them are John Cassel Cazzelli. Please use my pronunciation. Was
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Speaker 2: he's only done five films in his lifetime. He died
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Speaker 2: quite young. He was I think more of a theater actor.
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Speaker 2: All five films were Academy and War nominated, and he
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Speaker 2: was engaged to Meryl Street. But he died of cancer.
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Speaker 2: Oh so a little fun fact. But he is, I believe,
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Speaker 2: if not Sicilian, of Italian descent. So a lot of
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Speaker 2: them are very few who are pretending to be Italian
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Speaker 2: or Sicilian. Now Diane Keaton is playing Michael's girlfriend. Diane
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Speaker 2: Keaton has to play like an Anglo Saxon, you know,
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Speaker 2: like came from the Mayflower kind of purposely. So, and
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Speaker 2: there's a great line in the book. Any other questions.
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Speaker 1: I didn't know Diane Keaton was in the trilogy. I
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Speaker 1: had no idea she is Michael's wife. Okay, No, that
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Speaker 1: was good.
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Speaker 2: Now controversial opinion Part three. It is not a bad film.
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Speaker 2: People stop saying that. As again, if film it's a
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Speaker 2: bit long, I would give it like a two and
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Speaker 2: a half stars if you like the genre, you know,
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Speaker 2: two and a half maybe three stars, mostly for l
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Speaker 2: Andy Garcia is so hot in it. Who is not well,
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Speaker 2: he's Cuban so right, well for you will forget him
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Speaker 2: for he is so fucking hot in this movie. I
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Speaker 2: love somebody else. That's a line.
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Speaker 1: And we're like, I'm sure you're gonna get into it.
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Speaker 1: But why is Part three deemed the bad of the trilogy?
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Speaker 1: Because usually I find that in trilogies, you start our
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Speaker 1: strong with one because you're world building, and then the
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Speaker 1: second movie is a lot of exposition and like a
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Speaker 1: lot of just like in The Lord of the Rings,
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Speaker 1: like we're wandering the woods, we're like talking to villagers
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Speaker 1: and stuff, and then thing go back to happening in
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Speaker 1: book three because we're getting a big climate pigmatic conclusion
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Speaker 1: at the.
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Speaker 2: Time of this may so Part three was made in
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Speaker 2: the late eighties early nineties. I think it came out
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Speaker 2: like ninety one, so it was seventy four over almost
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Speaker 2: twenty years since Part two to Part three. It was
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Speaker 2: not planned. Even Part two was not planned. We go back.
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Speaker 2: They originally were just gonna make Godfather Part one just
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Speaker 2: one done right, because the book that it's based off of,
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Speaker 2: there is no part two or Part three It was
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Speaker 2: so successful though, that paramount, and everyone was like, let's
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Speaker 2: make another one, and so they made part two using
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Speaker 2: a little bit about from the Book of Young Veto,
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Speaker 2: which is actually just one chapter in the book because
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Speaker 2: everything really takes place when Vito is a young is
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Speaker 2: it an older man and his children are older. There's
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Speaker 2: one chapter about how the hell did he get to
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Speaker 2: New York City in the first place? The film part
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Speaker 2: In part two it goes back and forth between Michael,
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Speaker 2: he's now the Godfather and how did Veto become the
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Speaker 2: Godfather in the first place. It was very well made film,
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Speaker 2: and that was not planned. So also at the time
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Speaker 2: sequels series that kind of thing. It was not a
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Speaker 2: thing you make a sequel. It was a death sentence.
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Speaker 2: Everyone was like, don't do it, but apparents like, no,
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Speaker 2: it made money. We have weirdly faith in these guys
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Speaker 2: after so much of no faith in them, and so
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Speaker 2: Mario Putso and Franciscrococcolo went back and made a film
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Speaker 2: that many many people debate which one's better, Part one
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Speaker 2: or Part two, and still no one has a direct answer,
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Speaker 2: Like there's all these debates, right because they're so good.
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Speaker 2: Again for a very similar reason. Wonderful acting, beautiful score,
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Speaker 2: relatable story, everything, everything is great. So that's one thing.
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Speaker 2: Then after a while, I've read Francis for Cocco's biography.
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Speaker 2: He I think after a while they were like, let's
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Speaker 2: make a third one. I guess I don't really know why,
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Speaker 2: but well, for one thing, they kind of felt like
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Speaker 2: they wanted to close it again a spoiler. Part one,
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Speaker 2: we do see Vie de Corleone die, okay. In part two,
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Speaker 2: we do not see Michael die right, still a young man.
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Speaker 2: He's like maybe four in part two. So then in
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Speaker 2: part three it was sort of like, okay, let's actually
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Speaker 2: see it. I think that was one of the reasons.
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Speaker 2: And also it's a longer time appeared. And now you
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Speaker 2: have to think about it. They are filming in the
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Speaker 2: eighties and nineties and it now has to take place
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Speaker 2: in the seventies, right, So it's this way. And again
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Speaker 2: their hair is so bizarre, like al Pacino has this
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Speaker 2: weird spiked up hair that I think like inspired all
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Speaker 2: the boy bands in the early aughts tips and they
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Speaker 2: kind of brought it in another big one. And I
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Speaker 2: think it's a very unfair is they had so Michael
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Speaker 2: and Kay played by Diane Keaton and Papua. They have
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Speaker 2: two children, Anthony and Mary. Now the kids are brought
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Speaker 2: out and Mary was formerly Cassada Nonda Ryder, but Wana
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Speaker 2: Ryder was exhausted. She had been filming back to back
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Speaker 2: to back and he was like Mermaids. I can't remember
19:09
Speaker 2: if it was Edward Scissorhands or not. It's around that
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Speaker 2: time though. She was like in everything, and so she
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Speaker 2: had to stop. She was like, I can't, I really
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Speaker 2: cannot do this. So two weeks before filming she had
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Speaker 2: to be like, I'm sorry, I quit. I can't do it.
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Speaker 2: I am going to the hospital next if I don't
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Speaker 2: just like take a vacation. And so Francis pour Copple's like, well, shit,
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Speaker 2: hold up, I have a daughter your age that would
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Speaker 2: be the same age as Mary. So Sophia Coppola, his daughter,
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Speaker 2: played Mary. Sophia is not an actress. She was never trained.
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Speaker 2: She's you know. But he's like, it's not the hard
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Speaker 2: going front the camera, and there is a stiffness to her,
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Speaker 2: and it is if we get to that clip, we'll see,
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Speaker 2: but I hope you do. There is a great behind
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Speaker 2: the scenes. So there is a love story between Mary
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Speaker 2: and Vinnie played by Andy Garcia. Andy Garcia is the
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Speaker 2: illegitimate son of Sonny james Comm's character who was like
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Speaker 2: away from the family and then he wants to join
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Speaker 2: the Corleones and all that stuff, but he has to
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Speaker 2: kind of prove himself. We'll get to it, and so yes,
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Speaker 2: they are technically first cousins, but they do fall in
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Speaker 2: love and they have to Yeah, so it's a lot
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Speaker 2: of problems there too. But there's a great behind the
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Speaker 2: scenes interview where Sophia Coppola was talking about and she
20:51
Speaker 2: grew up with like Diane Keaton, so she's like, oh,
20:54
Speaker 2: I was really nervous, and Diane Keaton came to me
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Speaker 2: and said, what's wrong, and you, Sophia explains, I don't
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Speaker 2: really want to do this scene, like my dad's there,
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Speaker 2: like I know all these people behind the camera. She
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Speaker 2: grew up with all these guys because she is the
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Speaker 2: baby that is featured in part one and now she's
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Speaker 2: the nineteen year old daughter in part three, so it's
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Speaker 2: kind of an interesting idea. So she's like, I have
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Speaker 2: to do this like basically love scene. She has a
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Speaker 2: kissing scene a couple with Andy Garcia, who is married
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Speaker 2: at the time, he is still married to his first
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Speaker 2: and only wife, love you lady, and you know, she's like,
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Speaker 2: it's just embarrassing when he's married and I want, you know,
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Speaker 2: all this stuff. And Diane Keaton her advice was, she's like, honey,
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Speaker 2: enjoy it. You're getting paid to make out with a
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Speaker 2: hot guy and not get in trouble. Enjoying the time,
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Speaker 2: have fun with it. And as we were rewatching it recently,
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Speaker 2: my friend and Hi, we're like, oh, I think I
22:07
Speaker 2: know when she had to talk with her, because we
22:11
Speaker 2: will see them go. They're like, Minnie, your cousin's here.
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Speaker 2: He's like, oh yeah, let her up, and she's kind
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Speaker 2: of stiff and all that stuff. She's like, you can
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Speaker 2: tell she's trying to remember her line. And then they
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Speaker 2: cut and he's teaching her something like they're cooking, and
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Speaker 2: then they kiss, and I was like, she's much more relaxed.
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Speaker 2: I think that's when Diane Kinge's like, honey, enjoy it.
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Speaker 2: She's like, I think you're right. So it's just a
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Speaker 2: really fun I was like, I knew I always liked
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Speaker 2: Diane Katon, but it was a great way. So I
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Speaker 2: think people unfairly give a lot of bad rep to
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Speaker 2: Sophia Coppola, who really just stepped up and was like,
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Speaker 2: you want me to memorize lines? And I'm basically the
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Speaker 2: second plot into this trilogy because the main plot is
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Speaker 2: Michael and what he's doing for the family, like the
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Speaker 2: family business and stuff. So I think it's unfairly like
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Speaker 2: harshly reviewed. And also when you see part one and two,
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Speaker 2: there is a classicness to it. Part three is very dated.
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Speaker 2: I was like, this is definitely a nineties movie.
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Speaker 1: And again, I think that's the curse of the nineties.
23:30
Speaker 1: I think the Night. Yeah, I think everything. I mean,
23:33
Speaker 1: even when you're watching Mermaids, and Mermaids takes place I
23:36
Speaker 1: think in the sixties. Maybe, Yeah, there's still like or
23:42
Speaker 1: like now and then there's something about those movies that
23:44
Speaker 1: you're like, this is a nineties coming of extrue, like
23:48
Speaker 1: it just drips of all of the themes that we
23:50
Speaker 1: threw into movies in the nineties.
23:53
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, because there are certain films of the seventies
23:57
Speaker 2: or like that's the seventies movie. God doesn't really feel
24:01
Speaker 2: like that.
24:01
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's hard to well, and now we're kind
24:06
Speaker 1: of like into twenty twenty five in the twenty twenties.
24:09
Speaker 1: I don't know what our identity is anymore. Maybe it's
24:12
Speaker 1: like green screens and special effects that I'm like, go
24:17
Speaker 1: back to practical effects. They looked better CGI and whatnot.
24:21
Speaker 1: But I don't know what our timestamp is for movies,
24:25
Speaker 1: where like seventies movies felt so seventies and eighties. I mean,
24:31
Speaker 1: could you imagine The Godfather made in the eighties and
24:34
Speaker 1: Diane Keaton has a low out perm.
24:38
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, exactly, Like how do you yeah, exactly would
24:42
Speaker 2: you either? Yeah, And there's but they made it in
24:46
Speaker 2: the nineties, so they would still make it look more
24:49
Speaker 2: nineties than it would have been. Yeah, you know kind
24:51
Speaker 2: of thing. So yeah, so yeah, that's my argument. But
24:56
Speaker 2: as a film, as a plot, as the I'm the
24:59
Speaker 2: acting is exaggerated. But I think that's because I just
25:02
Speaker 2: took too many drugs.
25:04
Speaker 1: Oh okay, And again my disclaimer is I don't watch
25:08
Speaker 1: boy movies. Al Pacino isn't Scarface, right, that's DeNiro.
25:12
Speaker 2: No, No, that's scarf al Pacino scarface, Well, yeah you will.
25:19
Speaker 2: You will love him in part one and two. You're like,
25:22
Speaker 2: that's al Pacino.
25:23
Speaker 1: I do love al Pacino, But again I don't watch
25:26
Speaker 1: movies for the boys. But I don't do it. If
25:29
Speaker 1: it's a dad or an uncle movie, I'm like, no,
25:31
Speaker 1: thank you, no.
25:32
Speaker 2: And this is my argument. Now we're gonna get to it.
25:37
Speaker 2: This isn't a father daughter movie. This is ladies. Get
25:42
Speaker 2: your wine, get your chocolate. You're gonna get some PQ's. Okay,
25:48
Speaker 2: why is it a girl's movie? A chick flick? Better
25:52
Speaker 2: than a chick flick. Let's not beat around the bush. Huh.
25:55
Speaker 2: The hotties what? Okay? So let's get into it.
26:02
Speaker 1: Okay.
26:04
Speaker 2: I have pictured here some of the main hotties that
26:09
Speaker 2: take place throughout the three series. Okay, and each one
26:14
Speaker 2: will get their own slide, don't really. Okay. We got
26:17
Speaker 2: Sonny the Eldest Son Part one and two, Young Vito,
26:21
Speaker 2: Robert de Niro Part two, Tom Part one and two,
26:26
Speaker 2: Michael Part one and two, three, and Vinnie part three.
26:29
Speaker 2: Got it. Yeah, let's get into Vito the Perfect Man
26:33
Speaker 2: played by Robert De Niro, particularly Young Vito. I want
26:37
Speaker 2: that very quick. Older Vito obviously was Marlon Brando, who
26:42
Speaker 2: was like, I think forty five when he played him,
26:45
Speaker 2: and he is supposed to play a sixty plus year
26:47
Speaker 2: old and it's so cool to see how he and
26:50
Speaker 2: that's why you'll find out why they say Marlon Brando
26:54
Speaker 2: is one of the greatest actors to ever live. You'll
26:57
Speaker 2: see it in the behind the scenes. He's like just
26:59
Speaker 2: like on camera figuring out how is he going to
27:02
Speaker 2: act older? And then he puts like an orange in
27:05
Speaker 2: his cheek, like in his mouth, and that's why his
27:09
Speaker 2: he looks a little bit bigger, you know, like he's
27:10
Speaker 2: like and you know, like this, and and then he's
27:15
Speaker 2: veto right, So then fun fact. Okay, let's get to
27:21
Speaker 2: the character. Sorry, I was totally the gick out.
27:25
Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, Marlon Brando is making or is wearing special
27:29
Speaker 1: effects makeup though too right, they.
27:31
Speaker 2: Like age prosthetics, prosthetic his eyes.
27:37
Speaker 1: I think they go into it at the Academy Awards,
27:42
Speaker 1: uh exhibit, Like there's a whole exhibit dedicated to the Godfather,
27:47
Speaker 1: and I think like part of it is Marlon Brando's transformation.
27:51
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very interesting because if you think about forty
27:53
Speaker 2: five years old is not old, no, And also to
27:59
Speaker 2: be having the profession that he had and the responsibilities
28:03
Speaker 2: and to live what he had to live through. He
28:06
Speaker 2: witnesses his mother, father, and brother, his whole family being
28:11
Speaker 2: killed in front of him, and he had to run
28:13
Speaker 2: away at like seven years old, eight years old, from
28:17
Speaker 2: Sicily to Ellis Island survive that whole thing. You see
28:23
Speaker 2: it in the film, you know, like it takes a
28:25
Speaker 2: toll on you. You're an orphan and then you know,
28:29
Speaker 2: goes to a strange land. He's like, what the hell
28:31
Speaker 2: do I do now, you know, And so it's not
28:34
Speaker 2: just about the age. He had to think about that,
28:36
Speaker 2: and he was a method actor malon Brando, so it's
28:40
Speaker 2: very interesting. So at least he was like, no, we
28:43
Speaker 2: gotta give me. I don't know if he put on
28:45
Speaker 2: a quote unquote fat suit, probably, I think like putting
28:49
Speaker 2: something that aged him but also put more weight on him. Yeah,
28:55
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. But there's ways that you could
28:58
Speaker 2: see it. And then you know his voice, famously his voice.
29:02
Speaker 2: He decided on that voice, the strain on his voice,
29:07
Speaker 2: kind of thing very soft but very like low but
29:12
Speaker 2: powerful too so and then Robert de Niro was cast.
29:16
Speaker 2: He actually auditions and you can see the audition of
29:19
Speaker 2: him playing auditioning for Sonny will be the oldest son.
29:25
Speaker 2: And that's when they were like, we were going to
29:26
Speaker 2: make God for the part too. We were like, oh,
29:28
Speaker 2: you know who would might be good for Vito young
29:31
Speaker 2: Vido is that one kid, Robert de Niro, And so
29:34
Speaker 2: they asked him back because he has to basically emulate
29:39
Speaker 2: whatever Marlon Brando did, but thirty years younger, which is hard.
29:44
Speaker 2: It's very hard, and he won the Oscar for it.
29:47
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you've seen the Han solo movie that they
29:50
Speaker 1: did where that kid had to be Harrison Ford while
29:54
Speaker 1: also not being Harrison Ford, I didn't buy it, Like
29:59
Speaker 1: it's hard.
29:59
Speaker 2: To He also was like, why is it a young solo?
30:03
Speaker 2: Also was young?
30:04
Speaker 1: Correct? Why am I watching prior?
30:08
Speaker 2: Like this is stupid.
30:10
Speaker 1: I'd rather watch Harrison Ford on shrinking honestly.
30:14
Speaker 2: Like, but he was it. But I don't envy that
30:16
Speaker 2: poor kid, and he's a great actor.
30:19
Speaker 1: I think, Yeah, he's done other stuff where I'm like,
30:22
Speaker 1: oh now I'm bought in. I'm not very attracted to
30:24
Speaker 1: men anymore, but I will say that these eyes in
30:28
Speaker 1: this like tone photo of Uppert de Niro in this
30:32
Speaker 1: jama line, he looks like he'd like talk to me softly.
30:36
Speaker 2: I know, I know, Okay, so let's get into it.
30:39
Speaker 2: I say, everybody wants to be Veto or to be
30:42
Speaker 2: with Veto. Why Vito is basically the perfect man. He
30:47
Speaker 2: is devoted to his wife. He out of pretty much
30:53
Speaker 2: everyone except for Michael. Honestly, everyone in the mafia basically
30:58
Speaker 2: has a mistress, not Veto and not Michael. Vito was
31:04
Speaker 2: always with his wife. They don't really talk about how
31:09
Speaker 2: they met. They you know, both were immigrants in Little
31:12
Speaker 2: Italy and New York City. But he was always a
31:15
Speaker 2: family man and a lot of people really trusted him.
31:18
Speaker 2: He's also really just like this quiet guy who was
31:22
Speaker 2: sort of like a fly on the wall and just observed.
31:28
Speaker 2: In part two we sort of see that the guy
31:33
Speaker 2: who was in charge of Little Italy, the godfather a
31:37
Speaker 2: Little Italy in New York City, was not a very
31:39
Speaker 2: fair man. And one by one, you know, the neighborhood
31:46
Speaker 2: where like, we don't like this guy, all sorts of stuff,
31:50
Speaker 2: and they would turn to Vito or his wife to complain,
31:54
Speaker 2: and then the wife would go Vito and should do something.
31:57
Speaker 2: How Now here's the problem with the whole idea, and
32:01
Speaker 2: people forget about this. The way that they answer their
32:05
Speaker 2: issues the men do, especially he's through violence. So you
32:11
Speaker 2: are rooting for the bad guy.
32:13
Speaker 1: They are criminals at.
32:14
Speaker 2: The end of the criminals in the name of it's
32:18
Speaker 2: for family, it's for justice, all right, calm down. But
32:22
Speaker 2: it also has that kind of like a bad way.
32:26
Speaker 2: So as my friend pointed out.
32:29
Speaker 1: He's doing crimes, but like for the neighborhood, for the
32:33
Speaker 1: good of us all.
32:34
Speaker 2: So it's sort of like he wins people's trust and
32:39
Speaker 2: he doesn't. I feel like, I can't really think of
32:43
Speaker 2: it where he abuses that trust. He never does. He
32:47
Speaker 2: doesn't judge others, all sorts of stuff. I mean, there's
32:51
Speaker 2: so many different things. It's not a perfect world by
32:53
Speaker 2: any means. And we're not going to talk about the
32:55
Speaker 2: ethics of it because we know it's not good. But
33:02
Speaker 2: if you're talking about the character, their actual character, Vito
33:06
Speaker 2: is a really great He was the best one, right,
33:09
Speaker 2: Does that make sense? And in the way particularly young
33:13
Speaker 2: Vito plays is portrayed and how he looks and oh
33:17
Speaker 2: in this scene that are you talking about, the one
33:19
Speaker 2: where he's like in a white shirt, that's all okay,
33:24
Speaker 2: So this scene is you know, they have babies now
33:28
Speaker 2: they have four kids. Sonny Fredo Michael O'connie Fredo was
33:34
Speaker 2: born very sick. So in this scene you're seeing him
33:40
Speaker 2: watching a doctor try to help their baby, Fredo, who's
33:44
Speaker 2: crying and they don't know what to do, and they're
33:47
Speaker 2: just trying different things and he feels helpless. He doesn't
33:50
Speaker 2: know how to fix it, right, so I know, and
33:54
Speaker 2: I was like, oh my god, I just want to
33:56
Speaker 2: hold you to my bosom. Fredo, Fredo Vito a fucking brado.
34:02
Speaker 2: People come here. It's just like because he's just like I.
34:07
Speaker 2: I only want to fix things and he can't. Obviously,
34:11
Speaker 2: Freda lives to be older, like to become a man,
34:15
Speaker 2: but he's also the family idiot. That's why he's not
34:19
Speaker 2: in the list. But yeah, so and then obviously he
34:25
Speaker 2: becomes like the Godfather. Okay, Sonny is next. Sonny played
34:31
Speaker 2: by James conn who is not a Sicilian descent, but well,
34:34
Speaker 2: and he's a shit.
34:36
Speaker 1: We've forgive him because of the cheekbones I'm seeing a
34:39
Speaker 1: cheap bones thing.
34:40
Speaker 2: So Sonny is the eldest son and he's very manly,
34:45
Speaker 2: takes care of everyone. He has a hot head though,
34:49
Speaker 2: which will become his downfall spoiler alert. And this is
34:54
Speaker 2: why I cried he dies in the first.
35:00
Speaker 1: I did not know.
35:02
Speaker 2: Oh no, excuse me, I didn't know. He has a
35:04
Speaker 2: very famous death scene. He gets shot like a billion times.
35:08
Speaker 2: One of the reasons, though, is because he loves the
35:11
Speaker 2: women in his life. He goes to save his sister.
35:16
Speaker 2: It was a setup though, right, they knew his weakness
35:22
Speaker 2: and so that's one of the things. But you know
35:24
Speaker 2: you love him for that. And then but also he's
35:28
Speaker 2: a lady's man, so he does have a wife. But
35:31
Speaker 2: Vinnie was conceived in part one basically with a bridesmaid.
35:38
Speaker 2: And in the book, actually you'll read the book and
35:42
Speaker 2: it's like Sonny's wife was telling how like she was
35:46
Speaker 2: a virgin. It on their wedding day and like Sonny
35:50
Speaker 2: gets undressed and he has a very very big penis
35:53
Speaker 2: and she was so scared it wasn't gonna fit, but
35:55
Speaker 2: he knew how to like make her comfortable and then
35:58
Speaker 2: if it and all that stuff, and she was explaining
36:03
Speaker 2: to her friends at the table just like how big
36:09
Speaker 2: he is and all that stuff. Now I watch, I
36:12
Speaker 2: go and watch the movie after I've read the book,
36:14
Speaker 2: and I'm like, oh my god, they kept that scene
36:17
Speaker 2: in the book. If you're not paying if you're paying
36:19
Speaker 2: attention in the background, you'll see the wife. She's like
36:25
Speaker 2: raising her hands and doing like a distance and she
36:28
Speaker 2: just keeps moving the distance. Why bigger and bigger, and
36:31
Speaker 2: to basically allide that Sonny's penis is just so big.
36:36
Speaker 2: Then you'll see that one of the bridesmaids is listening
36:38
Speaker 2: to the story and she gets up. The next scene
36:40
Speaker 2: is that you see Sonny is with the bridesmaid, you know,
36:45
Speaker 2: conceiving Vinnie. So I was like, oh my god, they
36:50
Speaker 2: kept the same that's so hilarious to me. So anyway,
36:53
Speaker 2: so he not only is the ladiest man, he knows
36:55
Speaker 2: how to pleasure. You're like, he's there for the ladies
36:58
Speaker 2: pleasure too.
37:00
Speaker 1: I just thought those kids, oh no, I love that
37:02
Speaker 1: they well that they didn't keep it in, but they
37:05
Speaker 1: kept it and.
37:05
Speaker 2: Kept it for us who know about it. Yeah.
37:07
Speaker 1: Well, and my whole thing is like, too often as
37:11
Speaker 1: a thirty five year old, I'm studying with thrown women
37:14
Speaker 1: talking about the realities of sexuality and sex with men
37:17
Speaker 1: and all of it. And like someone has told me,
37:20
Speaker 1: this is the first time I've ever talked that way
37:22
Speaker 1: with any girlfriends, and I'm like, no, we need to
37:24
Speaker 1: be talking about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
37:28
Speaker 2: It's really interesting, so personally my favorite in the film, Okay,
37:34
Speaker 2: Now Tom. Tom is played by Robert Duval. He is
37:41
Speaker 2: basically an adopted son. He was Sonny's best friend and
37:45
Speaker 2: he is of Irish and German immigrant immigrants family. In
37:52
Speaker 2: the book, it is explained, it's not really explained in
37:54
Speaker 2: the movie, but it's explained in the book that he
37:56
Speaker 2: was his parents were like alcoholics and they didn't really okay,
38:00
Speaker 2: it's much attention to him, and Sonny took him in
38:04
Speaker 2: and just again it shows like Sonny's kindness, but in
38:10
Speaker 2: rough ways, you know, he's like, listen, you little orphaned boy,
38:14
Speaker 2: like just come over for dinner. That's how he would
38:16
Speaker 2: do it. But he really took him in, and the
38:22
Speaker 2: Corleones really didn't question it. They're like, this kid is
38:26
Speaker 2: there's potentially he's a good kid, Like he needs a
38:28
Speaker 2: family too, so they brought him in. He learns Sicilian
38:33
Speaker 2: and becomes the most trusted like another son to them. Now,
38:40
Speaker 2: the other families, the other mafia members, you know, they
38:43
Speaker 2: don't really take him seriously, and that's going to be
38:45
Speaker 2: a mistake on their part. I argue though he's the
38:48
Speaker 2: most like Veto out of all his children. He learned
38:53
Speaker 2: how to stay calm, to stay quiet, and to observe.
38:57
Speaker 2: He stays levelheaded as much as Sony is a hot head,
39:02
Speaker 2: as much as Michael, because you learn he's so ruthless.
39:07
Speaker 2: Fredo never was a leader, will learn. I think Connie
39:13
Speaker 2: could have been a good godfather, but they wouldn't because
39:16
Speaker 2: she was a woman. But also she has to learn
39:19
Speaker 2: a long, long way. But Tom really learned from Vito
39:27
Speaker 2: and really understood how to play the game. And he
39:31
Speaker 2: is a loyalty. Now he's the consiliary, which is basically
39:36
Speaker 2: this almost like second in command after the Godfather. So
39:41
Speaker 2: the Godfather always has and this is true, I'm hoping
39:45
Speaker 2: I'm saying it right, consoliery, which is almost like a lawyer.
39:49
Speaker 2: But really they just they're a business manager, they're the lawyer,
39:52
Speaker 2: they're the brains, they're the military general for the Godfather.
40:00
Speaker 1: Okay, in his.
40:02
Speaker 2: It has always been a Sicilian who does it. So
40:05
Speaker 2: when Vito becomes the Godfather, and in the book it
40:11
Speaker 2: is explained that Tom is the only one who really
40:13
Speaker 2: goes to college becomes a lawyer, and Vito's like, what
40:17
Speaker 2: do you want to do? Like, you know, I have
40:18
Speaker 2: connections anywhere I can get you into any law firm,
40:22
Speaker 2: and he goes, I want to work for you, you know,
40:25
Speaker 2: and he goes, oh, okay, and then proving himself, Vito
40:32
Speaker 2: makes him the constiliary, which pisss off everybody except for
40:36
Speaker 2: the Corleons. And then when Michael becomes it Godfather, he
40:39
Speaker 2: keeps Tom as consciliary, so he's in one and two.
40:44
Speaker 2: In Part three they say that Tom had died. It's
40:49
Speaker 2: mostly because Robert Duval was like, fuck this, I'm not
40:51
Speaker 2: doing part three, so they didn't. They didn't want another
40:55
Speaker 2: actor to play Tom. They just I might make you
41:00
Speaker 2: want to watch this movie.
41:01
Speaker 1: No I think I think I have to do it
41:03
Speaker 1: for research purposes.
41:05
Speaker 2: Now, oh, so fucking hot Michael okay, was okay? So
41:17
Speaker 2: this scene with him in this like beautiful Kashmir, but anyway, okay,
41:23
Speaker 2: so Michael, alright. There's there's this argument that Marlon Brando
41:27
Speaker 2: shouldn't have even won Best Actor because he should have
41:31
Speaker 2: been Best Supporting Actor since Michael is the real lead
41:35
Speaker 2: of the Godfather. I don't know, but oh he was
41:40
Speaker 2: the name. Marlon was the name, so okay. In the book,
41:44
Speaker 2: He's my favorite and I'm very very worried for myself
41:48
Speaker 2: because he's very, very dangerous. He's dangerous in the film,
41:52
Speaker 2: he's much more dangerous, and this in the book. He
41:55
Speaker 2: is by far the different, like the most different out
41:57
Speaker 2: of all his siblings, okay, out of everyone in the family.
42:02
Speaker 2: He understands to really how to play the game is
42:06
Speaker 2: you'll sort of see it in one of the clips.
42:09
Speaker 2: And he also changes the most. This is why the
42:12
Speaker 2: character of Michael is so important, particularly because again they
42:17
Speaker 2: thought they were only going to make one one film.
42:21
Speaker 2: That's why they're like, Michael is the most important character.
42:25
Speaker 2: So this is why one of my biggest points of
42:31
Speaker 2: why this film was so successful and why such a
42:34
Speaker 2: chick flick is you can thank the women because Francis Pococolo.
42:40
Speaker 2: I mean, everyone auditions for this movie. Again, you'll see
42:44
Speaker 2: it in behind the scenes. One machine fucking everybody. Everybody
42:50
Speaker 2: Like I remember seeing all of these room like, oh
42:52
Speaker 2: my god, I forgot about that actor, you know, like
42:54
Speaker 2: everyone was like auditioning, but they he was like, I
43:00
Speaker 2: really like this kid, al Pacino. At the time, al
43:03
Speaker 2: Pacino had done a couple of he was mostly a
43:06
Speaker 2: theater actor. He's in his late twenties. I think and
43:10
Speaker 2: he only had done one film, right, and then everything
43:15
Speaker 2: else was theater, and he's like, there's something about this guy.
43:20
Speaker 2: But Paramount Studios, being the assholes that they are, we're like, no,
43:25
Speaker 2: he's ugly, he's short, he's you know, who the fuck
43:29
Speaker 2: cares about him? Like Michael like, if he's really he
43:33
Speaker 2: has to hold his own talk. Marlon Brando, we got
43:37
Speaker 2: to see him. So going back to it, he's already
43:41
Speaker 2: the most different from the family and he changes the
43:43
Speaker 2: most again. Michael corleone youngest son was never supposed to
43:48
Speaker 2: be the godfather, okay, because you had Sonny then Fredo,
43:53
Speaker 2: but you know, Fredo isn't going to be the goverment.
43:56
Speaker 2: But no one thought that Sonny would die and then
43:59
Speaker 2: it would be Michael. Michael goes and he's like, I'm
44:03
Speaker 2: not going to be like my family. I'm going to
44:05
Speaker 2: be like an all American boy, you know kind of thing.
44:10
Speaker 2: We're not going to be into the mafia, right, I'm
44:12
Speaker 2: going to legitimize my name. And he ends up enlisting
44:17
Speaker 2: and fighting into World War Two and he becomes a here,
44:20
Speaker 2: you know, a veteran. But when Sonny, excuse me, no,
44:25
Speaker 2: the whole point of the Godfather film, and look is
44:29
Speaker 2: when another mafia member hates that Veto does not agree
44:35
Speaker 2: to get into drug dealing because their main money is gambling. Okay,
44:41
Speaker 2: and this is why I like Vito. And he's like,
44:44
Speaker 2: I don't judge anyone. A man makes his money, however
44:47
Speaker 2: he makes his money. Gambling is a pretty harmless advice.
44:52
Speaker 2: You get into drugs, there's more complications. Yes, there's more money,
44:55
Speaker 2: but there's more complications. So with all due respect the
44:59
Speaker 2: Corleones and our business, we will not get into it.
45:03
Speaker 2: This mafia guy hates that and decides I'm gonna go
45:06
Speaker 2: kill video Vito to force everybody else to get into
45:12
Speaker 2: my business, which is the heroin. I think it was
45:14
Speaker 2: heroin and it was drugs. Well, he made a mistake,
45:17
Speaker 2: didn't he. Because Michael was like, you went after my dad,
45:23
Speaker 2: you went after my family, and now that's personal. Well
45:30
Speaker 2: he says it's not personal, but it is. And that's
45:34
Speaker 2: when things change. And then of course Sonny dies Fredo
45:39
Speaker 2: is not tough enough. He's too weak. He's too influenced. Right,
45:46
Speaker 2: he can shift sides easily. You can't have that. And
45:51
Speaker 2: Michael becomes the Godfather, and so that's why they say,
45:56
Speaker 2: he changes the most, coming from I would never be
45:59
Speaker 2: in the mafia to being the head of the mafia,
46:02
Speaker 2: and not only that, the most dangerous man in the mafia.
46:07
Speaker 2: His father was never this ruthless, never this dangerous. Right
46:10
Speaker 2: and the Godfather Part two continues that, Okay, any questions.
46:14
Speaker 1: No, I actually just want to make a joke about
46:16
Speaker 1: short men, to be like short men and their anger
46:20
Speaker 1: straight from the devil.
46:23
Speaker 2: Going back to this story. So he's like, there's something
46:26
Speaker 2: about this ap Pashina kid. He I feel like he
46:28
Speaker 2: can do it. I feel like he can be like
46:30
Speaker 2: this soldier, veteran, good kid meets this all American girl
46:36
Speaker 2: and then becomes the most ruthless killer basically by the
46:41
Speaker 2: end of the film. But he's like, fine, James, con
46:46
Speaker 2: can you go and audition to be Michael? Do a
46:50
Speaker 2: screen test with Diane Keaton. They already had decided Dian
46:53
Speaker 2: Kane is going to do a play Kay the girlfriend,
46:58
Speaker 2: and she was again auditioning with every man they wanted,
47:04
Speaker 2: Robert Redford, who again is not Sissilian, is not Italian,
47:10
Speaker 2: and all sorts of staff. You know. They they were thinking,
47:15
Speaker 2: if you wanted somebody who will be arguably the lead,
47:19
Speaker 2: they have to have be handsome, and because they are
47:24
Speaker 2: a bunch of men, they wanted to be what their
47:28
Speaker 2: idea of handsome was. Okay, So finally, after all of these,
47:33
Speaker 2: I mean like hundreds of these screen tests for this
47:37
Speaker 2: Michael Corleon and Francis says, like, if it gotta be al,
47:42
Speaker 2: But he finally goes and he talks to his wife
47:47
Speaker 2: Diane Keaton, and the one maybe a couple one real
47:54
Speaker 2: female producer, and a couple of the secretaries, the females,
48:00
Speaker 2: and he goes, you've all seen the screen tests, who
48:03
Speaker 2: do you think is Michael? Because they all also know
48:06
Speaker 2: the script, they know the story, they know what they need.
48:09
Speaker 2: Every single female said al Pacino, he undresses you with
48:14
Speaker 2: his eyes, and I was like, oh my god, that's
48:16
Speaker 2: so true. There's an uneasiness, but you cannot look away.
48:22
Speaker 2: You want him to undress to right. You're like washing
48:26
Speaker 2: the whole time. You're like, he's dangerous but unsuspecting but
48:32
Speaker 2: not You just can't put your finger quite on it.
48:35
Speaker 2: And he is the most intense out of all of them,
48:40
Speaker 2: even out of Marvin, if you really think, like even
48:44
Speaker 2: a young Marlon kind of thing. All of the women
48:48
Speaker 2: saw it and saw what Francis could see. But he
48:53
Speaker 2: needed the proof and so he's like, I'm sorry, all
48:58
Speaker 2: you men, if you want to sell tickets and if
49:02
Speaker 2: you want to prove, like I'm telling you, there's something
49:05
Speaker 2: about this kid, all the women are seeing it. You
49:11
Speaker 2: gotta let us do this. So finally, you know, it's famous.
49:17
Speaker 2: The paramount would constantly be around and any mistake, they
49:22
Speaker 2: were like, we will replace you in a heart beat.
49:24
Speaker 2: To Francis, to al you know, all sorts of stuff,
49:28
Speaker 2: and they kind of prove that there's a whole thing
49:32
Speaker 2: about it. So this is why I think Michael he
49:35
Speaker 2: is so great, and al Pacina is great in this,
49:39
Speaker 2: and he has this intensity to him for the peaks.
49:45
Speaker 2: You definitely watch it.
49:47
Speaker 1: The quiet masculinity. It's such a secure thing. They're so
49:52
Speaker 1: secure in it. So then they do love their wives
49:55
Speaker 1: more and the way that they communicated, Yeah, and they
49:58
Speaker 1: are more playful with their ca and they are like
50:01
Speaker 1: more like, I think you're right, we don't have a
50:04
Speaker 1: lot of that secure masculinity anymore. Masculinity is so insecure,
50:09
Speaker 1: and it's where all the violence and all of the
50:11
Speaker 1: shitty ways that they treat us on dates and all
50:14
Speaker 1: of it come from. And it's because they're so deeply insecure.
50:19
Speaker 1: And I don't know how I do say a lot
50:22
Speaker 1: of the time it's because none of them got to
50:24
Speaker 1: go to war, and they all grew up with like
50:27
Speaker 1: rampas and uncles telling war stories and like they didn't
50:32
Speaker 1: get to so like nothing's ever made them feel heroic.
50:36
Speaker 2: It's like the fight Club, He's like, we don't have
50:39
Speaker 2: a war, our wars.
50:40
Speaker 1: Capitalism are in our war kind of thing exactly. So
50:46
Speaker 1: I think that is really the interesting part and how
50:51
Speaker 1: the movie does actually defy misogyny and toxic masculinity and
50:56
Speaker 1: all of it because every side you said, they were
50:59
Speaker 1: men who took care of business because their community needed
51:02
Speaker 1: something or their wives needed something or whatever. But at
51:05
Speaker 1: the end of the day, they were family men. They
51:07
Speaker 1: like helped with kids, and they help and they loved
51:10
Speaker 1: their wives and whatnot. And I see that in so
51:16
Speaker 1: many men who are more secure in themselves than these
51:19
Speaker 1: insecure fucks that I've been lucky enough to day.
51:22
Speaker 2: It's toxic masculinity and insecure masculinity. Part of this is
51:28
Speaker 2: that why the violence was Their answer is it's not
51:34
Speaker 2: that I don't think it's the toxicness. It's the insecurity
51:37
Speaker 2: is the is the wrong handling of it, and they
51:40
Speaker 2: didn't have any other solution handed to them. But and
51:45
Speaker 2: I do have a slide that often is overlooked, but
51:49
Speaker 2: the women are just as important as the men. They
51:54
Speaker 2: just are not talked about. And so it is at
51:57
Speaker 2: the end. But yes, I do with you on that,
52:01
Speaker 2: and it does make me think of of men in
52:06
Speaker 2: our like our grandfathers are great grandfathers, you know, those
52:09
Speaker 2: who had to survive several wars, not so much more recently,
52:17
Speaker 2: of those kinds of them.
52:18
Speaker 1: And then like the immigrant experience.
52:21
Speaker 2: But it is also another thing is when you forget
52:25
Speaker 2: about that stuff. It's that's why I think it's such
52:29
Speaker 2: a delatable story about any immigrant story is like you
52:34
Speaker 2: you were raised here or like that's why Kay is
52:36
Speaker 2: such an interesting character because they're like your family's run
52:40
Speaker 2: a mad lub, which like don't even.
52:42
Speaker 1: And I'll send you either the transcript of it or
52:46
Speaker 1: a TikTok of them going into it. But on one of
52:49
Speaker 1: my like D and D shows, Brennan Lee Mulligan like
52:52
Speaker 1: has this whole like monologue about how like laws are
52:56
Speaker 1: just threats and their threats brought upon like and it's
53:00
Speaker 1: it's like laws are fake. Basically, it's like laws are
53:03
Speaker 1: just fake.
53:04
Speaker 2: That's part two is Vito Michael works with the government
53:11
Speaker 2: like a senator of Nevada, and the senator acts like
53:14
Speaker 2: he's all high and mighty, and you're like, bitch, you're
53:17
Speaker 2: just as corrupt as the Maia, You're just as illegal.
53:21
Speaker 1: So like so it's all just like laws are fake
53:23
Speaker 1: and they're just made up by the higher power. And
53:26
Speaker 1: how did that higher power even get higher power? Probably
53:29
Speaker 1: by doing something that's worse than whatever crime you're doing.
53:33
Speaker 1: And yeah, and again like America built on colonization and slavery,
53:40
Speaker 1: just so everyone in case we forgot.
53:44
Speaker 2: And also and also a lot of organized crime.
53:48
Speaker 1: A lot of organized crime.
53:50
Speaker 2: It is a lot of that stuff and playing the
53:53
Speaker 2: game and all that. Yeah, yeah, you should really.
53:55
Speaker 1: Watched I probably should also read the book, probably because
54:01
Speaker 1: the book probably goes more into the family dynamics than
54:03
Speaker 1: the movies have time for.
54:06
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think part two will be interesting for you
54:09
Speaker 2: to see it for the aunts and the grandmothers. Move on,
54:15
Speaker 2: we're almost at Vinny.
54:17
Speaker 1: I did forget about Andy Garcia.
54:20
Speaker 2: Oh don't worry, I have not So Vinny is like
54:25
Speaker 2: his daddy Sonny, a ladies man, charming and loyal, but
54:32
Speaker 2: he's also ambitious and you just love him. So look
54:39
Speaker 2: at his hair. You just kind of want them. Okay.
54:43
Speaker 2: This is the other reason why it's a chick flick.
54:47
Speaker 2: The women. It really is down to it. If it
54:52
Speaker 2: wasn't for the women, the men wouldn't do anything.
54:54
Speaker 1: Okay, amen.
54:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just not spelled out that you kind of
55:02
Speaker 2: have to not even you have to be a dumb
55:06
Speaker 2: ass not to realize it. Some of the women. Carmela
55:11
Speaker 2: is the wife of Youto. Kay is the wife of Michael.
55:16
Speaker 2: Connie is the sister of Michael and daughter of you know.
55:22
Speaker 2: Also Michael had been married once before, and she dies.
55:31
Speaker 2: She was killed during an assassination attempt of Michael because
55:34
Speaker 2: they knew he would be the next godfather that they
55:37
Speaker 2: killed his first wife instead. So there's a line in
55:44
Speaker 2: this because he is taken to Sicily in hiding. What
55:52
Speaker 2: is it? Oh wait, I have her written down. I
55:54
Speaker 2: have her written down. But there's a great line from
55:58
Speaker 2: the book. It's one of my face quotes, okay, and
56:02
Speaker 2: it's it's on a slide. It says, this is about Carmela. Okay,
56:09
Speaker 2: she was quite content not to share the pain of
56:11
Speaker 2: her men. After all, did they share the pain of women?
56:16
Speaker 2: And I think that is sort of like like my
56:21
Speaker 2: thesis of this. The story is ultimately what is about
56:28
Speaker 2: is about family from a man's point of view. But
56:32
Speaker 2: remembering that if when you think of family, he really
56:37
Speaker 2: becomes begins with the mother, the woman, right, everything that
56:43
Speaker 2: they've done, Vito does everything. His mother is killed in
56:48
Speaker 2: front of him, he avenges her death. Everything goes to that.
56:54
Speaker 2: When Carmela asks him to do something to help with
56:57
Speaker 2: the fair with a fair treatment, it's for his wife
57:02
Speaker 2: and that builds the trust in the world and with
57:04
Speaker 2: him the godfather, her sons, they really do everything for
57:11
Speaker 2: her and eventually they're wives as well son or their sister, right,
57:16
Speaker 2: Sonny is like, I will avenge my you know, my
57:20
Speaker 2: sister's being treated horribly. I'm going to go get revenge.
57:24
Speaker 2: And it was a setup to kill him. All that
57:27
Speaker 2: stuff back to this, Oh, okay, So in when Michael
57:33
Speaker 2: goes to Sicily and he meets Napoleona and he just
57:36
Speaker 2: he it's love at first sight for him. His guards
57:40
Speaker 2: go Michael. In Sicily, women are more dangerous than shotguns
57:45
Speaker 2: as another basis, And I also wanted to give them
57:50
Speaker 2: credit because Kay and Connie throughout part one, two, and three,
58:00
Speaker 2: I'm so strong as characters. Not a lot of people
58:03
Speaker 2: give them a lot of credit, particularly Connie. I think
58:05
Speaker 2: Connie becomes this spoiled little girl who's like she's actually
58:10
Speaker 2: it's written in the book she's Vino's favorite. She gets
58:13
Speaker 2: married to not a nice man and all stuff. She abandons,
58:18
Speaker 2: her children and her responsibilities. She feels sorry for herself.
58:21
Speaker 2: She looks so glamorous and part too, but then she
58:25
Speaker 2: realizes she has to be responsible. By part three, she's
58:29
Speaker 2: really the orchestrating everything to make Vinnie a corleone, to
58:36
Speaker 2: make sure because she needs she knows Michael's going to
58:39
Speaker 2: have a downfall, and to keep everything afloat. Hey was
58:45
Speaker 2: this innocent girl like everything's a okay, you know sort
58:51
Speaker 2: of thing two And it is kind of said in
58:55
Speaker 2: the particularly in the book, it's like spelled out, but
58:58
Speaker 2: in the movie too. Michael wants to marry Kay, not
59:03
Speaker 2: really because he loves her, but he's like, I need
59:05
Speaker 2: a wife like her to show my legitimacy as an American.
59:10
Speaker 2: And she really understands that is kind of like fine,
59:14
Speaker 2: you know kind of thing, and I love him and
59:16
Speaker 2: all that stuff. But by part two, when she has
59:21
Speaker 2: children and she sees how dangerous this world is and
59:24
Speaker 2: she doesn't want that for her children, she fights back
59:27
Speaker 2: and it's not going to be easy as he is
59:30
Speaker 2: a very powerful man and takes the children away. By
59:33
Speaker 2: part three, we know that she does have a relationship
59:36
Speaker 2: with her children and that Michael regrets treating her so
59:40
Speaker 2: unfairly in a divorce, and she's not afraid to tell
59:44
Speaker 2: him as it is right, Like, she finds a voice.
59:47
Speaker 2: She's very strong. People are like she's annoying, and I'm
59:51
Speaker 2: like why because she was like, you fooled me once
59:55
Speaker 2: with that Kashmir sweater, bitch, but I no longer yours.
1:00:00
Speaker 2: So I think that's a really great thing. And so
1:00:02
Speaker 2: I was like, you got to watch it and you realize, oh,
1:00:05
Speaker 2: the women really they just are slaves to the women, honestly.
1:00:11
Speaker 2: So I love this film and I think this film,
1:00:16
Speaker 2: franchise and all that stuff is just great. I had
1:00:18
Speaker 2: a cool few fun facts, so that was really cool.
1:00:23
Speaker 2: Really quickly, kissing the hand was not a common thing
1:00:26
Speaker 2: in real life with the Mafia. It's not even I
1:00:31
Speaker 2: don't think it's even in the book. But when they
1:00:33
Speaker 2: were like, how do we explain to non Sicilians, to
1:00:36
Speaker 2: people who don't understand the mafia, how it works, how
1:00:40
Speaker 2: important the Godfather is. So Francis and Mario were like, oh,
1:00:44
Speaker 2: you know what, not a common thing. Some men will
1:00:47
Speaker 2: shake hands, even hug, but they won't kiss another man's hand.
1:00:53
Speaker 2: So that's why they made it into it, all right,
1:00:56
Speaker 2: And now today real life mafia did it. That's not
1:01:00
Speaker 2: a thing. So that was just to show how important
1:01:04
Speaker 2: the Godfather is. There's a great Oscar rule, like a
1:01:10
Speaker 2: stupid Oscar rule, but I don't feeling for that. Connie's
1:01:14
Speaker 2: casting Connie again, the sister she was in the book.
1:01:20
Speaker 2: She's described as ugly, and I was like, oh my god, Francis,
1:01:26
Speaker 2: you're so mean. You cast your own sister as Connie.
1:01:30
Speaker 2: And then I read Francis's book, like his biography, and
1:01:37
Speaker 2: I watched some behind the scenes and it turned out
1:01:40
Speaker 2: that his mother, Francis's mother, was like, Francis, you got
1:01:45
Speaker 2: this big deal of paramount. You asked your father to
1:01:48
Speaker 2: be the composer. Your sister Talia is an actress and
1:01:51
Speaker 2: she's a good one. Cast her as the only other
1:01:55
Speaker 2: female that's left is that she could play is is
1:02:00
Speaker 2: uh Connie? And he goes, mom, Tollie is way too
1:02:04
Speaker 2: pretty to play Connie. So it was like, that's a
1:02:07
Speaker 2: really great like don't judge a book by its cover
1:02:09
Speaker 2: kind of thing. I was like, it's the same story,
1:02:12
Speaker 2: but you're hearing it from the different perspectives. You're like,
1:02:14
Speaker 2: you're such an asshole, Francis, And then you realize, oh,
1:02:18
Speaker 2: did he thinks his sister's pretty? And he's like, but
1:02:22
Speaker 2: she's a great actress, but she's too pretty to play Connie.
1:02:25
Speaker 2: And she's like, figure it out, go cast your sister.
1:02:28
Speaker 1: Well, also like pretty or not pretty? Aside, like how
1:02:32
Speaker 1: often are women told that they're not utiful enough? Like oh,
1:02:36
Speaker 1: you're the ugly sister or whatever. And then like you
1:02:40
Speaker 1: from the outside of this family are like, Connie is
1:02:43
Speaker 1: a babe. I don't like, what are you guys? Why?
1:02:46
Speaker 2: Well, especially in this this foot I purposely shows that photo.
1:02:50
Speaker 2: Once you see part two, like where she's kind of
1:02:53
Speaker 2: figuring herself out, She's no longer this innocent you know thing.
1:02:57
Speaker 2: She's gone through some shit, but she's also a neglectful mother.
1:03:01
Speaker 2: She's she's not a good daughter, you know, all that stuff.
1:03:05
Speaker 2: Then she changes. That's why I was like she would
1:03:08
Speaker 2: eventually become really good and she becomes really ruthless in
1:03:11
Speaker 2: part three. I love it. She poisons people. It's awesome.
1:03:15
Speaker 2: And then there was a there was a clip but
1:03:18
Speaker 2: you won't get into it that was basically the Oscar role.
1:03:21
Speaker 2: And then I just share that like you can check
1:03:23
Speaker 2: just watch dot com where to find it in your country.
1:03:27
Speaker 2: And yes, if we had time, I have a really
1:03:30
Speaker 2: cool Oscar thing.
1:03:32
Speaker 1: But which did the because of this movie? Did they
1:03:37
Speaker 1: have to come up with an Oscar rule?
1:03:39
Speaker 2: No, it's so Originally in part two, Marlon Brando was
1:03:43
Speaker 2: supposed to come. It's in the very end of the film.
1:03:48
Speaker 2: They were going to remember when Michael was said, I'm
1:03:51
Speaker 2: going to enlist in the war because he didn't have to.
1:03:54
Speaker 2: He decided to because he wanted to not be part
1:03:56
Speaker 2: of the family business and wanted to be more American.
1:04:02
Speaker 2: And Marlon Brando was supposed to come back as Vido
1:04:04
Speaker 2: Corleone older and all that stuff, and everyone's pissed off
1:04:08
Speaker 2: at Michael for enlisting, okay, and he's remembering this right,
1:04:16
Speaker 2: because how things have changed. He became what he didn't
1:04:19
Speaker 2: want to be, and he became worse. Now. If there's
1:04:24
Speaker 2: a rule in the Oscars, no two actors can play
1:04:28
Speaker 2: the same character in the same film and be nominated,
1:04:31
Speaker 2: let alone win. That's why spoiler alert for The Fight Club,
1:04:38
Speaker 2: even though they wanted to, they could never campaign for
1:04:42
Speaker 2: Brad Pitt and Edward Norton for Oscars for Best Actor
1:04:46
Speaker 2: or Best Supporting Actor. They're paying the same character. But
1:04:50
Speaker 2: spoiler alert, they could for Godfather Part two for Robert
1:04:54
Speaker 2: de Niro if Marlon Brando had shown up, they could
1:04:57
Speaker 2: not be nominated, neither Marlon nor robt for a Godfidther
1:05:01
Speaker 2: part two. What had happened was Marlon Brando just didn't
1:05:04
Speaker 2: show up the day was filming.
1:05:06
Speaker 1: Marlen, Oh, you're wrong.
1:05:11
Speaker 2: So he's being an asshole and France is like what
1:05:15
Speaker 2: He's like he didn't feel like it or whatever. I
1:05:18
Speaker 2: don't know what the reason was, but like France's like, shit, shit, shit,
1:05:21
Speaker 2: what do I do? What do I do? So in
1:05:23
Speaker 2: the last second, they decide, oh, we'll make it like
1:05:27
Speaker 2: a surprise birthday party, and everyone's like, let's go to
1:05:31
Speaker 2: the door to surprise dad for his birthday. And that's
1:05:37
Speaker 2: why Marlon Brando was never seen in part two. Now,
1:05:41
Speaker 2: since Marlon never showed up. When it was Oscar season,
1:05:45
Speaker 2: they said, hey, we can campaign for Robert Tannira to
1:05:50
Speaker 2: be nominated Best Supporting Actor, and Robert Danniro rightfully so
1:05:54
Speaker 2: won it. But if Marlon had shown up, he couldn't.
1:05:58
Speaker 2: I thought that was a cool kind of thing and
1:05:59
Speaker 2: worked out a man so and that was like the scene.
1:06:03
Speaker 2: You could have seen it, but yeah, anyway, thank you
1:06:06
Speaker 2: so much. I hope you watch it.
1:06:09
Speaker 1: I think we kind of did the lesson and the
1:06:12
Speaker 1: big takeaway, which is like, and am I going to
1:06:16
Speaker 1: be able to recap it? I don't know, but it
1:06:18
Speaker 1: was basically like this idea of like security in your
1:06:23
Speaker 1: masculinity and like the difference between that. But if you
1:06:27
Speaker 1: had to put into words what people are supposed to
1:06:31
Speaker 1: take away from the Godfather trilogy and learn about women
1:06:35
Speaker 1: or misogyny or any of it, what would you think
1:06:40
Speaker 1: we're supposed to be learning.
1:06:43
Speaker 2: I just I think what always bothered me, especially why
1:06:47
Speaker 2: they used it in like Barbie as like a man's
1:06:50
Speaker 2: planning thing. They were trying to say, like, think of
1:06:53
Speaker 2: a way to show annoyingness of man's planning, not saying
1:06:58
Speaker 2: that Godfather was bad or me being like a guys movie.
1:07:01
Speaker 2: But I was like, it's not a guys movie. I
1:07:05
Speaker 2: think it is a film that is really about your duty,
1:07:13
Speaker 2: your loyalties, your your family obligations, and anyone from any
1:07:20
Speaker 2: background and any gender identity and all that can really
1:07:23
Speaker 2: relate to it. And that's the thing about it. It's
1:07:28
Speaker 2: really not a guys movie. That's that was my argument.
1:07:32
Speaker 2: I Oh, I really loved it because I was like,
1:07:34
Speaker 2: oh my god, I'm so relate to this. So that
1:07:39
Speaker 2: was that was it. And then once I really got
1:07:42
Speaker 2: into it, I had to read the book, I had
1:07:44
Speaker 2: to rewatch it one hundred and one times, and I
1:07:48
Speaker 2: sort of noticed a lot more things that I was like, actually,
1:07:52
Speaker 2: they think it's a guys movie because you see a
1:07:54
Speaker 2: lot of men in it. A lot of men have lines.
1:07:57
Speaker 2: The women don't really like what it's sort of the
1:08:02
Speaker 2: women actually very powerful.
1:08:05
Speaker 1: Yeah, at the end of the day, it's that quiet matriarchy,
1:08:07
Speaker 1: which is something that I am homing in my sitcom
1:08:11
Speaker 1: and other projects, because like, would I love to just uh.
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Speaker 1: I did get a note from my sitcom pilot where
1:08:19
Speaker 1: it was like, what if we just never see the dad,
1:08:21
Speaker 1: like he's talked of you hear him from off stage
1:08:24
Speaker 1: every once in a while, but you never see him, Yeah,
1:08:27
Speaker 1: because he's just like an invisible figure while these women
1:08:30
Speaker 1: are getting things done or trying to get their lives
1:08:33
Speaker 1: together or whatever. And I love that idea. And if
1:08:37
Speaker 1: I could, I would make every male character just off
1:08:39
Speaker 1: stage and we never had to look at them. But
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Speaker 1: I want to bring in like what were women doing
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Speaker 1: just like quietly behind the scenes in the things that
1:08:49
Speaker 1: I write, And how were they actually the most powerful
1:08:52
Speaker 1: people in the room. There's that line in My Big
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Speaker 1: Fact Creek Wedding, which is a movie where everything that
1:08:58
Speaker 1: happens in My Big Fact Cret Wedding has happened to
1:09:01
Speaker 1: my family mine you where she says something about like,
1:09:08
Speaker 1: you know, the men are the head of the family,
1:09:10
Speaker 1: but the women they're the neck.
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Speaker 2: It's a great one.
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Speaker 1: It's a great one. And I do I think about
1:09:15
Speaker 1: that all the time because I'm like, well, no wonder
1:09:18
Speaker 1: I grew up. There was a TikTok going around where
1:09:20
Speaker 1: it was like when my dad meets my sister's new
1:09:23
Speaker 1: boyfriend and he's like my daughters. They don't respect men.
1:09:27
Speaker 1: They disrespect men, they do not value them, they do
1:09:30
Speaker 1: not like them, they do not respect them. And I
1:09:33
Speaker 1: was like, well I did that because everywhere I looked,
1:09:35
Speaker 1: it was really my mom and my aunts being the
1:09:39
Speaker 1: loudest power in the room to be like we're not
1:09:42
Speaker 1: doing that or knock that off or whatever.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I see that. And to your point of like
1:09:48
Speaker 2: what were the women doing? That's why I loved Connie
1:09:51
Speaker 2: in part three. That's another thing I loved about Part three.
1:09:53
Speaker 2: I was, you know, Connie is real the Godfather?
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Speaker 1: What would you hope to make nfs for either lovers
1:10:02
Speaker 1: of the Godfather movies in general storytelling, or people who
1:10:06
Speaker 1: like me who are going to be new to the
1:10:08
Speaker 1: Godfather and sit down to watch it.
1:10:11
Speaker 2: To let me know, are you more of a Sunny
1:10:15
Speaker 2: or a Michael kind of person, Like who would you
1:10:18
Speaker 2: rather want, because we all know you want Beido and
1:10:21
Speaker 2: therefore tong and just to really like appreciate it, like
1:10:30
Speaker 2: it's really not that exaggerated people, and you have to
1:10:33
Speaker 2: come with that clear mind. You've got to get into
1:10:36
Speaker 2: the mood for it, because when people want shot up
1:10:39
Speaker 2: about something, there's that expectation you're like, all right, wow, me,
1:10:44
Speaker 2: I do think this will be one of those instances
1:10:46
Speaker 2: where you're like, oh shit, yeah. But sometimes they're like,
1:10:53
Speaker 2: it was a bit long. It is long movies, but
1:10:56
Speaker 2: it's passes by so quickly.
1:10:59
Speaker 1: All right, Well, Tarah, thank you so much for building
1:11:02
Speaker 1: a pitch deck for my podcast.
1:11:05
Speaker 2: Thank you for the opportunity. I'm so happy, so.
1:11:08
Speaker 1: Much work, so much effort. You went above and me on.
1:11:13
Speaker 1: Let the listeners know once again where they can connect
1:11:17
Speaker 1: with you so they can talk to you about their
1:11:20
Speaker 1: time watching The Godfather.
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Speaker 2: I am on a lot of socials at Tara Underscore
1:11:26
Speaker 2: Jafari and I have several podcasts, but one is out now,
1:11:33
Speaker 2: Who Was She Podcast, which is about women throughout history.
1:11:38
Speaker 2: Season four is out about Carol Lombard, and we are
1:11:42
Speaker 2: on Instagram on Facebook at who Was She Podcast? And
1:11:47
Speaker 2: then also Women in Film and Video of Washington, DC's
1:11:51
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1:11:57
Speaker 2: Was She Podcast and teller.
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1:12:09
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1:12:17
Speaker 1: through anything you're tolerating, including a bunch of men being
1:12:21
Speaker 1: on screen. But you're really, really, really convinced that they
1:12:25
Speaker 1: are actually making a point about toxic masculinity. People just
1:12:29
Speaker 1: aren't getting it. Smiles are for joy.