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Thomas Inch Dumbbell vs Deadlift: What It Really Tests (Grip vs Overall Strength · The Best Experience

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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so one, hi, Nick. Some strongmen can deadlift many
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  Speaker 2: times their body weight with both hands, but when it
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  Speaker 2: comes to one-arm deadlift, such as lifting the Thomas Inch dumbbell, okay,
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  Speaker 2: that's very different, by the way.
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  Speaker 1: Very different.
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  Speaker 2: The weight is far less than half the weight that
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  Speaker 2: they can deadlift with both hands. Does this mean the
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  Speaker 2: amount of weight someone can lift with one arm is
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  Speaker 2: actually better than Indication of their overall strength. Well, that's
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  Speaker 2: a good question, Hong. That's a good question. The thing is, though,
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  Speaker 2: is what you don't understand is the deadlift bar is
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  Speaker 2: a little bit thinner, like in a regular bar, for instance.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a tad bit thinner, so it's easier to grab.
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  Speaker 2: It's easier to hold on to. And then on top
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  Speaker 2: of that, the Thomas inch isn't an inch. It's two inches.
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  Speaker 2: So the handle is like this big around, which is
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  Speaker 2: much harder to hold on to. That's why guys can
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  Speaker 2: do way less. If you give them a regular size
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  Speaker 2: handle or the size handle that's on the deadlift bar,
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  Speaker 2: they're probably going to pull somewhere in that neighborhood of
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  Speaker 2: half the weight. If not even, maybe even a little
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  Speaker 2: bit more. So depending on how good their grip is
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, whether they thumb lock or they
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  Speaker 2: figure out how to keep away or they just got
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  Speaker 2: a great grip. But yeah, so the Thomas Inch is
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  Speaker 2: much harder. They usually take that to expos and stuff
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  Speaker 2: like that and offer a prize. Because usually out of
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  Speaker 2: everybody that shows up at an expo, there might be
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  Speaker 2: five or six people that can lift it off the ground.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. You know, a lot of strongmen struggle with that.
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  Speaker 2: I know Hopthor at one time struggled with that. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys that struggle with that because
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  Speaker 2: your thumb going into that has to like just absolutely
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  Speaker 2: crush into the the handle and it the pressure the
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  Speaker 2: thing just it doesn't roll either so that thing just
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  Speaker 2: rotates right to the weak spot which creates motion so
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  Speaker 2: you try to pick it up like this instead of
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  Speaker 2: like this you know you're trying to pick it up
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  Speaker 2: and then pick straight up because if it starts spinning
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  Speaker 2: at all it's coming right out of your hand so
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  Speaker 2: as far as an overall it's a better indication of
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  Speaker 2: overall grip strength and hand strength than the other deadlift.
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  Speaker 2: But as far as body strength goes, no, the deadlift
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  Speaker 2: is far better at overall body strength, determining that. One
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  Speaker 2: thing to note on that, the weight times your body
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  Speaker 2: weight lifted ratio is not a thing in the lifting community,
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  Speaker 2: like in powerlifting or even strongman, especially in powerlifting. There's
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  Speaker 2: a dot system that used to be called.
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  Speaker 2: The Wilkins formula, Wilkes formula. So the formula basically is,
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  Speaker 2: both of them come down to about 10%. They come
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  Speaker 2: down to whatever the difference in body weight is. So
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  Speaker 2: if a guy's 400 pounds and another guy's 300 pounds,
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  Speaker 2: you have to be about 100 pounds and then another 10%.
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  Speaker 2: So if you weigh 100 pounds more than somebody, you
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  Speaker 2: got to beat them in that lift by 110 to
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  Speaker 2: do better than them. So if you've got a guy
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  Speaker 2: that deadlifts 900 pounds and then a much smaller guy
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  Speaker 2: that deadlifts 700 pounds, but he's only like 110 pounds lighter,
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  Speaker 2: the guy that deadlifted 900 beats him on overall body
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  Speaker 2: strength as far as formula goes. But you get that
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  Speaker 2: same guy deadlifting like 810, 820, then he wins. So
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  Speaker 2: it's just where that's at. Because you've had guys at
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  Speaker 2: like 110, 165 pull in the high sixes, low sevens.
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  Speaker 2: And maybe in some cases, a couple came close to
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  Speaker 2: 800 pounds, if not more than that now. Yeah. Especially
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  Speaker 2: with the bar changes, the deadlift bars make it so
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  Speaker 2: much easier than they used to be. You know, that,
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  Speaker 2: but the strength to weight lifted ratio isn't, isn't there. Oh,
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  Speaker 2: he just deadlifted five times his body weight. Yeah. But,
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  Speaker 2: it's still less than the heavy guy did. My skeleton,
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  Speaker 2: your skeleton and tendons, they all can hold about the
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  Speaker 2: same amount of weight. It's the body mass, the muscle
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  Speaker 2: that moves everything that makes the strength difference that way.
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  Speaker 2: So it's basically the difference in body weight. So if
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  Speaker 2: a guy weighs 220 pounds more than another one, like
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  Speaker 2: a guy that's 181 competing against a guy that's 400 pounds,
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  Speaker 2: you're going to have a 220 pound difference. Okay, so
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  Speaker 2: do that plus 10%, so add another 22. So he's
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  Speaker 2: got to lift 242 pounds more than the lighter guy
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  Speaker 2: to beat him on an overall standing. So that's kind
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  Speaker 2: of how that works. But it's in the percentages. It's
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  Speaker 2: a little more, a little less, just depending on the
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  Speaker 2: weight classes and stuff like that. I hope that explains
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  Speaker 2: a little bit of it to you, but the deadlift
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  Speaker 2: is definitely a better test of overall strength. The Thomas
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  Speaker 2: inch dumbbell is a better test of grip strength. So,
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  Speaker 2: which is kind of funny because I have a Thomas
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  Speaker 2: inch dumbbell and I had it down at hardcore parkour,
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  Speaker 2: which is a hardcore parkour place. But a lot of
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  Speaker 2: the guys from the TV show, what the hell is
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  Speaker 2: that TV show? Why am I drawing a blank on
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  Speaker 2: it all of a sudden? Where they do all the obstacles.
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  Speaker 1: American Ninja?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, American Ninja Warrior.
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  Speaker 1: American Ninja Warrior.
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  Speaker 2: They had a whole bunch of guys in there. They're
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  Speaker 2: talking about how great their grip is and how strong
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  Speaker 2: they are. A couple of them are like, I got
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  Speaker 2: a better grip than you do. And I go, me? No,
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  Speaker 2: you don't. And they're like, yes, I do. I'm like, no,
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  Speaker 2: you don't. And they're like, so I just rolled the
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  Speaker 2: Thomas Inch dumbbell over there. He's like, what's this? I go,
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  Speaker 2: that's the Thomas Inch dumbbell. If you got a better
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  Speaker 2: grip than me, you should be able to pick that up.
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  Speaker 2: That's it. And they're just like, really? I'm like, yeah. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it's pretty simple. If you've got a better grip than
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  Speaker 2: me and your grip is stronger than mine, you should
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  Speaker 2: be able to pick that up. They couldn't even budge it.
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  Speaker 2: And then I just picked it up at will, right hand,
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  Speaker 2: left hand, going back and forth. I go, look, the
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  Speaker 2: reason why you're able to hold on to all those
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  Speaker 2: stuff so long, your grip's really strong. Don't get me wrong.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm 320 pounds at that time. You guys are
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  Speaker 2: a buck 50. Your grip's really strong, but it's not
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  Speaker 2: as strong as mine. But I'm holding way more weight
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  Speaker 2: from those handles than you are. If I get to
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  Speaker 2: something that's stationary and it's a weight and we go
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  Speaker 2: to pick it up, I'm going to lift more. It's
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  Speaker 2: just how it is.
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  Speaker 1: Is it?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So that was kind of an interesting thing. All right.
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  Speaker 2: On to the next one. All right. Who's in the
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  Speaker 2: Strongman Open? Who in the Strongman Open do you favor?
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  Speaker 2: And looking at this World Deadlift Championship, field who has
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  Speaker 2: the best chance of pushing Thor. And do you think
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  Speaker 2: we could see someone attempt a number that generally threatens
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  Speaker 2: the world record? Uh, yeah, I do. This kid in Mexico,
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  Speaker 2: I think his name's Raul. Where is it? Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: He's all over internet right now with what he's pulled
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  Speaker 1: in practice.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Cause he pulled 504 in practice. Oh, there it is.
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  Speaker 2: Raul Flores. Uh, from what I've seen of his deadlifts
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  Speaker 2: and stuff like that, he's got a good shot because
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  Speaker 2: he pulled that 504. He had plenty of room to spare.
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  Speaker 2: The problem with him is how strict of the judge
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  Speaker 2: is going to be. Because if I'm the judge, I'm
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  Speaker 2: going to be like, you need to get your shoulders
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  Speaker 2: back and you need to make sure your hips are
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  Speaker 2: locked forwards and your knees are straight. Because he's just,
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  Speaker 2: if you look at it, it's just, it's right there.
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  Speaker 1: It's a little soft.
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  Speaker 2: It's a little bit soft. So, I would prefer just
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  Speaker 2: that little bit more to lock out. The funny thing
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  Speaker 2: is when Hooper was– when I went to train with
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  Speaker 2: Mitch the other day, told him the same thing because
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  Speaker 2: he had like soft hips. I was like, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: get your ass through. He's like, oh, thanks. I'm like,
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  Speaker 2: you got to have somebody around you that's not going
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  Speaker 2: to freaking BS you.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: It's good to have somebody there that will give you
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  Speaker 2: the honest answer because– Nothing's worse than getting there and
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  Speaker 2: the judge is like, no, you're not there. So the
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  Speaker 2: soft lockouts, the soft knees, but the kid's strong. I
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  Speaker 2: think he's more than capable of breaking that record. He
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  Speaker 2: might pull 515, maybe even 520 depending on what he's
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  Speaker 2: got that day and depending on how their attempts go
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  Speaker 2: on the deadlift. Because the deadlift world championships has a
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  Speaker 2: set number of attempts that they go through to get
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  Speaker 2: to the weight. And then they stop and go, okay,
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  Speaker 2: what's the next weight? Then they ask whoever's left in
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  Speaker 2: the competition what their next attempts are going to be. Yeah. Wow,
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  Speaker 2: it's kind of cool. You can tell I started lifting
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  Speaker 2: a little bit again. I like it.
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  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? Just a little bit.
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  Speaker 2: I don't feel so skinny. But, yeah, it should be
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  Speaker 2: really fun to watch. I think there's a couple other
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  Speaker 2: guys that can really kind of give him a run.
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  Speaker 2: I think if Trey ever figures out how to use
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  Speaker 2: a suit, Trey Mitchell can give him a hard time.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, he's been practicing, you know, which we've
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  Speaker 1: talked about, but He's been so long without a suit
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  Speaker 1: with the way he's doing. I think if he dials
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  Speaker 1: in that suit, I definitely see the numbers going dramatically.
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  Speaker 2: Up the roof. And then I think Austin Andrade, I
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  Speaker 2: think he's got a good suit and everything else. He's strong.
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  Speaker 2: The problem is he's got the Rogue coming up after this.
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  Speaker 2: And so how much does he want to spend on
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  Speaker 2: this when the Rogue's coming up so fast too? And
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  Speaker 2: the Rogues pay days slightly higher than Giants.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, slightly higher.
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  Speaker 2: All right, it's way higher. So, you know, Austin competing
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  Speaker 2: in that, this could just be Austin to go and
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  Speaker 2: compete in the Deadlift World Championship and then get points
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  Speaker 2: and then finish out the show to get his invite
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  Speaker 2: to World's Strongest Man.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Which would be smart because you can see most of
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  Speaker 2: these guys are here are all guys that are in
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  Speaker 2: the finals. There's not a whole lot of new guys here.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: That are in here. Because Ben's been to Worlds. Bryce, Nick, Gordione,
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  Speaker 2: James Jeffers. I think James has already been there, but
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  Speaker 2: maybe not. Evans Nana's been there. Gavin's been there. Adam
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  Speaker 2: Bishop's been there. Evan's been there. Tom's definitely been there.
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  Speaker 2: He's won three of them. And then Trey Mitchell's been
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  Speaker 2: there in the finals like every time he's gone. So
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  Speaker 2: it's going to be a pretty good lineup. So who's
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  Speaker 2: in shape? who's ready to go, who's taking it seriously,
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  Speaker 2: and then who's just getting through this to get to
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  Speaker 2: the road, that type of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly.
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  Speaker 2: It should be pretty interesting. I know a lot of
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  Speaker 2: events in this are going to be pretty favorable for
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  Speaker 2: a couple of the guys, so it should be pretty
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  Speaker 2: interesting to watch.
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  Speaker 1: That Titan toss is getting a lot of use out
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I know. True. But yeah, Raul Flores, I think
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  Speaker 2: he's got a great shot at that. And like I said,
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  Speaker 2: there's a few other guys that can jump up there.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, Hopthor could come in just fired up going,
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  Speaker 2: no way I'm doing it. No way. He's finally got
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  Speaker 2: somebody to push him. So he's like, no way you're
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  Speaker 2: taking my record. So, I mean, it just, but he's
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  Speaker 2: had so many heavy deadlifts this year and so many
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  Speaker 2: heavy training sessions.
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  Speaker 1: You only have so many pulls like that in a year.
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  Speaker 2: That are breaking the world record. And yeah, over 1100 pounds. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But I still see Thor pulling a lot of weight.
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  Speaker 1: He gets that fire lit under his ass. Sometimes that's
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  Speaker 1: all it really takes.
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  Speaker 2: This is true. But that leads me to my next subject.
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  Speaker 2: Are the Strongman Open World Deadlift Championships, which takes place
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  Speaker 2: September 5th, 2026 at the Alta– Altina?
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  Speaker 1: Advance, how you say it?
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  Speaker 2: Arena. Birmingham. Strongman Open. Current lineup. All right. So, you
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  Speaker 2: got Trey Mitchell, Tom Stoltman, Evan Singleton, Adam Bishop, Austin Andrade,
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  Speaker 2: Gavin Bilton, Evans Nana, which that kid keeps getting better.
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  Speaker 2: He's– Yeah. Terry Hollins is working with him, and he
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  Speaker 2: keeps getting better every time he comes out.
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  Speaker 1: Tighten him up.
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  Speaker 2: Terry's a smart dude.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, daddy is.
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  Speaker 2: James Jeffers from Canada. Real strong guy. Keeps getting better.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Raul Flores. I think he's just in the deadlift championships,
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  Speaker 2: but maybe he's in the whole thing.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not too sure on that one.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because they invite some guys just for the championship.
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  Speaker 2: That might be one of them. Nick Gordione, which he
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  Speaker 2: gets better every time he's out. Bryce Johnson gets better
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  Speaker 2: every time. He's definitely improving. Ben Glasscock, who's also a
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  Speaker 2: really strong kid. He's so... I mean, this is going
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  Speaker 2: to be one heck of a show. It really is.
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  Speaker 2: But it's all just going to depend on how the
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  Speaker 2: events go. Now, the first event is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the Max Deadlift. Yeah. So.
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  Speaker 1: All energy at the beginning.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So, you're going to be... You're going to be...
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  Speaker 2: If you go all out on that to try to
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  Speaker 2: break the world record, you're going to be hurt when
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  Speaker 2: you get to the rest of the stuff. I mean,
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  Speaker 2: I think a couple of the guys can take a
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  Speaker 2: pretty good shot at it and still be fine for it.
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  Speaker 2: But everybody else. So. And then there's the Titans toss,
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  Speaker 2: which you've seen at worlds where they throw it for
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  Speaker 2: distance to go over a bar. Like, I think it's
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  Speaker 2: like a 12 feet, but they go out at like nine.
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  Speaker 2: They end up out at 10 meters, I think.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So. The deadlift, I kind of favor Hopthor on. I
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  Speaker 2: think Hopthor can actually win that event too, that toss.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think he's better than Tom at the toss.
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  Speaker 2: So they should go probably one and two in that
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  Speaker 2: if Hopthor is doing the whole contest. If he's not,
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  Speaker 2: then don't have to worry about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yep.
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  Speaker 2: Dumbbell press. Tom's pretty good at the dumbbell press. There's
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  Speaker 2: a lot of guys that are in this field that
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  Speaker 2: are pretty.
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  Speaker 1: Solid at the dumbbell press.
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  Speaker 2: Trey. Exactly. Evan Singleton's great at the dumbbell press. Austin's
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  Speaker 2: good at the dumbbell press. Nick's doing pretty good at
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  Speaker 2: the dumbbell press. Bryce is doing good. Then Glasscock. So
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  Speaker 2: there's a lot of guys that are pretty good at
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  Speaker 2: the dumbbell press that are going to be in this.
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  Speaker 2: So that'll be a fun event to watch. And then...
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  Speaker 2: Load and push. Load and push. Now, if it's the
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  Speaker 2: one I'm thinking of, that's going to be interesting because
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  Speaker 2: you want to get your... Loading is going to be
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  Speaker 2: the easy part. Pick it up, run, throw it in.
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  Speaker 2: Pick it up, run, throw it in. But when you
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  Speaker 2: go to push, if it's the same implement they were
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  Speaker 2: using at OSG, that one's going to be interesting because
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  Speaker 2: you've got to put your hands down as low as
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  Speaker 2: you can on those handles. and almost turn your hands
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  Speaker 2: sideways and push with your, with your palms and your
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  Speaker 2: whole entire arm and your shoulders. You literally are going
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  Speaker 2: to have to get your shoulders into that machine and
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  Speaker 2: then just drive your legs and make them as, make
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  Speaker 2: them as narrow as you can. If you make them
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  Speaker 2: real wide, you're going to, you're going to do this
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  Speaker 2: all over the place. You want your feet.
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  Speaker 1: One of those things too, is that at OSG, like
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  Speaker 1: they couldn't football hook, hook it, run. It had to
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  Speaker 1: both hands on it and push. And that, Cause like
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  Speaker 1: I said, a lot of people were practicing and they
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  Speaker 1: were like, Oh, they're going to push this thing so fast. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: No, you can't do it that way. So here's how
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  Speaker 2: you got to do it. And that really changed a
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  Speaker 2: lot of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: So exactly.
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  Speaker 2: The guy who figures out how to get his chest
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  Speaker 2: on it, grab a hold of the bottom handles and
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  Speaker 2: still figures out how to like, just nudge it up
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  Speaker 2: a little bit. Yep. That'll be the guy that goes,
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  Speaker 2: that does really well. Exactly. Not that I watched. everybody's
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  Speaker 2: technique and saw the guys that were doing really good
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  Speaker 2: and what they did. Cause it did.
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  Speaker 1: Exactly. We didn't see that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So which is what you should be doing. And
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: then of course you have the Atlas stones, which normally
• 18:12
  Speaker 2: is the castle stones and that should be pretty, pretty
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: standard stuff. It would just be which set they use,
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: whether they're going to kill them with the, with the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: heavy set after the heavy deadlifts or whether they're going
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: to be nice to them and get them the lighter set.
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: Yep.
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: But it'll still be good. They still got to go fast. Um,
• 18:31
  Speaker 2: it's going to be a fun show to watch.
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: Um, again, and there will be a live stream. They
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: always do the live streams now. So, you know, you
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: go down to, uh, giants live, you guys will find
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: the live stream there.
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Yep. And it just kind of depends on what time
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: of the day you're waking up and what they're doing.
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: So if you're on the West coast, it's going to
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: be early, you know, it's going to be early in
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: the morning. If you're on the other side of the planet,
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: it'll be, uh, in the evening, that type of stuff.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: So just kind of depends on where you're at. So
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: check your time zones. So that way you get the time, right.
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: But I'm excited for this one. This should be a
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: pretty good show.
• 19:08
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah.
• 19:08
  Speaker 2: It really will. And like I said, I mean, if
• 19:13
  Speaker 2: Tom's doing the whole show and Thor's not doing the
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: whole show, um, yeah, this is, this should be a
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: pretty good contest for Tom. It really should. But this
• 19:24
  Speaker 2: will also be a very good show for Trey. all
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: the way around, because Trey's really good at the back toss, too.
• 19:32
  Speaker 2: Evan's good at the back toss, and he's been training that.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: Austin's pretty solid out at Gavin's. So, I mean, the
• 19:41
  Speaker 2: little things are going to make a big difference in this.
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: One little mistake, one misgrab, one misstep, whatever, those little
• 19:49
  Speaker 2: things that save a half a second are what's going
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: to come down to the difference between first, after you do,
• 19:55
  Speaker 2: you know, eight sandbags, the difference between first and fourth
• 19:59
  Speaker 2: or fifth, just by eliminating a quarter of a second
• 20:02
  Speaker 2: here and there, or a half a second or a
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: full second here and there on your movement. So, the
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: people that are just very efficient, very quick, very sure
• 20:12
  Speaker 2: with their movements with those things and hit it each
• 20:14
  Speaker 2: and every time the same way, they're probably going to be,
• 20:17
  Speaker 2: they're going to do really well in this all the
• 20:19
  Speaker 2: way around. Yeah. So, but I agree. It's going to
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: be fun to watch. That's for sure. Is it? So,
• 20:28
  Speaker 2: and then coming up this weekend are the strongman corporation nationals.
• 20:33
  Speaker 2: It's August 29th. It's in Mesquite, Texas. Good luck to
• 20:36
  Speaker 2: everybody going to that. um have fun that's gonna be
• 20:39
  Speaker 2: a blast there that's always fun it's usually a few
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: few 300 competitors getting after it over a weekend so
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: that's gonna be pretty cool and then canada's strongest man
• 20:50
  Speaker 2: is listed for august 30th so good luck to everybody
• 20:54
  Speaker 2: up there um.
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: That's and my question is is james jeffrey's gonna be
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: competing in that and then immediately next weekend into uh.
• 21:04
  Speaker 2: Into the Giants live show.
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: The World Deadlift Champions.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: The World Deadlift Champions.
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: They're saying. Yeah.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: They're saying. It's quite possible. It's happened before. I've seen
• 21:13
  Speaker 2: a few of the Canadians do that. And they're crazy
• 21:15
  Speaker 2: enough to do that. The Canadian guys just go bam, bam, bam.
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: Well, they compete on a whole other level. Yeah, they
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: compete on a very frequent level just like they do
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: in Europe.
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but Europe, Ilka and Marcells don't kill the guys.
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:36
  Speaker 2: They don't kill the guys. I mean, they're like, these are,
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: the weights are heavy, but they're not like super heavy.
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: It's a good strongman show. The best guy's going to
• 21:48
  Speaker 2: win no matter what, but they don't bury the guys.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: The Canadian, the Canadian guys, usually their shows are freaking
• 21:54
  Speaker 2: heavy all the way across the road. It's strongman. Don't, don't,
• 21:58
  Speaker 2: don't worry. You know, we're going hard. You go, you know,
• 22:01
  Speaker 2: so it's, I'm telling you the guys that come out
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: of Canada, if they get to come out healthy and fresh,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: look out for them. The problem is they usually don't
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: come out very healthy or very fresh. They're usually kind
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: of beat up. So if they come out healthy and
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: ready to go, there'll be a handful to deal with
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: because they can usually figure stuff out pretty good too. So,
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: but that's kind of what's coming up in strongman over
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: the next week or so. Um, I'm really looking forward to, uh,
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: going to OSG this year and doing some more like
• 22:35
  Speaker 2: judging and a little coaching here and there and helping people,
• 22:39
  Speaker 2: stuff like that. So it's going to be fun.
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: Um, and we will be at the Olympia in September.
• 22:46
  Speaker 1: So we'll be, you know, uh, you guys can come
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: find us there. And, uh, exactly.
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: I'll be at the bears, their steel, uh, strength flex
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: booth on Saturday, Friday. I'll just be walking around. So
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: that's it. I want to go check out the show.
• 23:01
  Speaker 2: I don't want to see, Sid went spot both days. Yep.
• 23:06
  Speaker 2: So I want to go out and see people and
• 23:07
  Speaker 2: do things and stuff like that. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah, so
• 23:12
  Speaker 2: it's going pretty good.
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, everything's going good. You know, your video for your
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: recovery training yesterday came out. And, you know, a lot
• 23:21
  Speaker 1: of people commented on, you know, you're looking lean and mean.
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: And you're getting that movement in. You know what I'm saying?
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: A few people let me know. It's like, oh, you're
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: still looking a little stiff. You got to understand, Nick's
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: an inch taller now. And that means, yeah, your ligaments
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: and your tendons and all that have been like.
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: You get stretched tight. So, but it's okay. I mean,
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: the thing is, is I'm feeling good and I get
• 23:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit more movement, a little bit more movement
• 23:48
  Speaker 2: and a little bit more movement. When I first started this,
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: I couldn't even put my fingers past my kneecaps and
• 23:54
  Speaker 2: now I can get them. I can get my whole
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: hand down past my kneecaps. So I'm just going to
• 23:59
  Speaker 2: keep taking my time. I don't care if it takes six,
• 24:02
  Speaker 2: excuse me, six months. I don't care. I'll get there.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: So it's just, I'm just going to keep working a
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: little bit at a time. Walking now, if I'm thinking
• 24:13
  Speaker 2: about what I'm doing when I'm walking, I walk much
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: more normal. If I'm being lazy and just feel like
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: getting to where I'm going, I still kind of waddle
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: a little bit. But either way, my walking is getting
• 24:24
  Speaker 2: a lot better. It's getting a lot easier. I can
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: go for long distances now. The other day I walked
• 24:30
  Speaker 2: around the neighborhood twice and it's a mile around the neighborhood.
• 24:34
  Speaker 2: So things are going perfectly. it's going pretty good. I mean,
• 24:38
  Speaker 2: now that I'm not fighting the infection anymore, I'm starting
• 24:42
  Speaker 2: to feel better. I can actually push the training. The
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: doctor took all the limits off. He's just like, he
• 24:49
  Speaker 2: just looks at me and goes, well, I can't really
• 24:51
  Speaker 2: tell you how to push or not push. You're probably
• 24:56
  Speaker 2: better at figuring that out on your own. So just
• 25:00
  Speaker 2: just be smart with it. I know you're going to
• 25:02
  Speaker 2: probably go a lot faster than most people. He goes,
• 25:05
  Speaker 2: but just be smart with it and you'll be fine.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I know. Yeah.
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: So no, no, that's absolutely it. That's absolutely it. Be, be,
• 25:14
  Speaker 1: you know, like just like how you always say, you know,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: your body cause you're in tune and you listen.
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: Right. So hinging is where I'm kind of like struggling,
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: getting forwards while I'm seated, stuff like that. But like,
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: just like I said, I just keep working on that.
• 25:29
  Speaker 2: And yeah, you know, work on loosening up my glutes
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: now and my IT bands and stuff like that. And
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: just keep, keep putting the work in and it keeps
• 25:40
  Speaker 2: getting better.
• 25:42
  Speaker 1: Exactly. And it's leaps and bounds, you know what I'm saying?
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: And the one thing too, is I always remind everybody,
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: this surgery happened a few months ago and he had
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: had two surgeries. Because he went through the first major
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: surgery and then had to get reopened because of that infection. So,
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying? You had to start back
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: from ground zero on one hip.
• 26:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah, on the right one, yeah. And the left one
• 26:05
  Speaker 2: wasn't all the way back to full strength yet.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Exactly.
• 26:09
  Speaker 2: Though the legs are finally starting to balance out in strength. Yeah. So,
• 26:14
  Speaker 2: I was actually able to step over and out of
• 26:17
  Speaker 2: the shower. Yeah. This week, I was pretty excited about that.
• 26:22
  Speaker 2: Instead of having to lift my leg and go backwards,
• 26:26
  Speaker 2: I can now go over the front.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: And also talking about, you know, you were saying earlier,
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: you're feeling a little pumped, getting a little bit of
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: workouts in. Has the diet gone back to standard diet,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: or are you still just kind of easing back into it?
• 26:44
  Speaker 2: My diet's gotten a lot better. I'm not... So I'm
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: still kind of.
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: Well, your diet's always been good.
• 26:51
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying? It's just the amount.
• 26:54
  Speaker 2: I'm eating a little more... I'm eating a little more
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: chicken than I was just to kind of help the
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: creatinine level.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: And that's working out pretty good and a little bit more...
• 27:07
  Speaker 2: So it'll be like chicken, beef, salmon, chicken, salmon, beef.
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: You know, I try to get the beef... at least
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: twice a week instead of like every day of every meal.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: So I'm trying to do that to get my Cretin
• 27:26
  Speaker 2: level to, to stay at a decent level. And it has, it's,
• 27:29
  Speaker 2: it's been a lot better. So when I get that
• 27:33
  Speaker 2: closer to one or 1.2 or 0.12, you know, I
• 27:35
  Speaker 2: got a 0.1, 0.12, 0.13. My GFR does great. So it's,
• 27:46
  Speaker 2: when it gets up to like 1.8, 1.9, um, the
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: GFR comes down a little bit and with the antibiotics,
• 27:54
  Speaker 2: cause I still got to take, uh, antibiotic pills for
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: six months to make sure to guarantee 100% that the
• 28:02
  Speaker 2: infection won't come back. Yeah. So I still got to
• 28:07
  Speaker 2: eat a lot of, you know, yogurt, stuff like that
• 28:10
  Speaker 2: for my digestion system and stuff like that. So, and
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: probiotics and things like that to help assist in digestion
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: plus the diet i'm eating it's you know it's rice
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: and chicken rice and salmon yeah they're.
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: All things not a lot of vegetables well some.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: But not a lot but yeah um it's a more
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: complete protein and more complete nutrients and then i drink
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: a i drink a decent amount of different types of
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: juices where i get a lot of those vitamins and
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: stuff in there as well So.
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: And also too, when people, he says juices, we're talking
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: about 100% juice. Yeah. Not this stuff that you're getting
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: that's mixed with high-fructose currant syrup.
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: Like all this delicious tasting juice. You know what I'm saying?
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: I'm drinking the sour.
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, cause Nick likes
• 29:00
  Speaker 1: a combination of lemon juice and cranberry juice and tart
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: on tart.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah. you mix them together and you put
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: a little water in it to dilute it a little
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: bit and you get used to it. It's something you
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: actually get used to and begin to like, which exactly,
• 29:17
  Speaker 2: you know, when I was working for the beer companies,
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: I did like sour beers.
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: So, well, you know, the first time I ever heard
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: of that lemon and cranberry juice, I've always been a
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Frank McGrath fan. He's a, he's a bodybuilder. He always
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: was animal for a long time and he used to
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: do these videos and every single morning he would drink
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: uh four ounces of lemon juice uh four ounces of
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: cranberry juice and he's like i do this to help
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: keep my kidneys and liver functioning correctly because of everything
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: that we're eating and everything we're doing and he's also
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: in one of the episodes he said too is he
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: better get kidney stones this will help break that down.
• 29:55
  Speaker 2: Yeah so um I, the stuff works great for me.
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: It really has. Yeah. So, and, um, my heart goes
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: out to everybody in Nepal today and in Tibet from the,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: from the big flood.
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Yes. I saw that today.
• 30:12
  Speaker 2: They're missing a lot of people and yeah, my heart
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: goes out to them. Cause that's just horrible.
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: Thoughts and prayers.
• 30:19
  Speaker 2: Thoughts and prayers, um, for everybody. And then all the
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: people are going to be homeless now and stuff like that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: You know, I wish them nothing but the best.
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: Nothing but the best. And we are, you know, like
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: I said, I saw a video today and I thought
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: it was AI. And then I realized it was from
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: the Weather Channel. And I was like, oh, my God.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: And you know what I'm saying?
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And the people that just couldn't get out of
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: the way.
• 30:44
  Speaker 1: Yes.
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: The people that just couldn't.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: Exactly. Yeah. You see them running. It's like, you know,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: like I said, when things like that happen, it's like
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: we're in our own bubble. but then when you see
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: stuff like that happen to the other side of the world,
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: it's like, Oh my God, what, what can you do?
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: What can you say? But you know, we, we can,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: we can send our energy, our thoughts and our prayers
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: out there for those and hope and hope for the best.
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: I know. And they're not even a hundred percent sure
• 31:08
  Speaker 2: of the cause of it. There's like two different, like
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: an ass dam broke and then all the water got released.
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: And the other one was, there was an avalanche that
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: dropped into a lake and it just pushed it over
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: so much volume from that avalanche went in. or the
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: glacier dropping, um, that it, it burst the dam. So
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: either way, my heart's out to everybody and, you know, um,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: hoping everybody finds their family members.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: That we do, you know what I'm saying? And I
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: also like to say a little something for, you know,
• 31:42
  Speaker 1: like I said, that's a huge thing. Dolly Parton, Tim Curry,
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: two people who've, you know, impacted a lot of the
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: world and done a lot of great things out there
• 31:51
  Speaker 1: for a lot of people. Cause Tim Curry's done a
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: lot of, things for charity, Don Dolly Parton. Oh my God.
• 31:55
  Speaker 2: She's tried.
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: She's helped the United States read.
• 31:58
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying?
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: And you know, it's like when these things happen, it's
• 32:02
  Speaker 1: like so impactful that, and all we can do is
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: just reflect and know what we can do to help
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: improve this world and make it a better place. You
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: know what I'm saying? Like even with this podcast, we
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: always try to make sure that we spread the information
• 32:14
  Speaker 1: that's going to help improve your life. You know what
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: I'm saying? Really, really throw out the, you know, do
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: our small part out there when, when we can.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so my heart goes out to you in
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: our thoughts and prayers. And with that, you got anything else?
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: No, no, take us on out of here.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: All right. Well, as always, please like, share, and subscribe.
• 32:37
  Speaker 2: And as always, train hard, train smart, and be the
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: best you can be. Go out there and have a
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: great day. And thank you.
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: To the best experience. To the best experience. With Nick Bass.