Latest / Influencer Confidential / How to Start a Podcast in 2025 Step by Step for Creators & Influencers #268
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- 0:00Speaker 1: Welcome to Influencer Confidential by Sidewalker Daily. My name is
- 0:04Speaker 1: Nina Zeta and I will be your host. I love
- 0:07Speaker 1: working with brands and influencers on all things business strategy.
- 0:11Speaker 1: Are you ready to learn what it takes to work
- 0:13Speaker 1: in this influencer industry and see behind the curtain? Well,
- 0:16Speaker 1: let's jump in. If you're a creator that's curious about
- 0:24Speaker 1: starting a podcast, or maybe you have an established following
- 0:27Speaker 1: somewhere else and are ready to jump into the world
- 0:29Speaker 1: of podcasting. Maybe you're totally new to the creator world,
- 0:32Speaker 1: but the podcast route is the route you want to
- 0:34Speaker 1: try first. As someone who has a podcast and has
- 0:37Speaker 1: been doing this for a few years, I'm going to
- 0:39Speaker 1: let you know the ins and out of podcasting basics
- 0:42Speaker 1: for creators. This channel is for creators, and I'm really
- 0:45Speaker 1: hoping to help you guys on the business side of things. Now,
- 0:47Speaker 1: before I jump into the how, I just want to
- 0:48Speaker 1: mention really really quickly why podcasting excites me so much.
- 0:52Speaker 1: It's from a brand deals perspective. Our company, by itself,
- 0:56Speaker 1: and we don't even focus on getting brand deals, is
- 0:58Speaker 1: getting more and more inquiries about being featured on our podcasts.
- 1:02Speaker 1: As a paid speaker, So brands want to pay us
- 1:04Speaker 1: to be featured on our podcast and from an audience
- 1:07Speaker 1: and a growth perspective, I am seeing so many more
- 1:10Speaker 1: people say they learned about us through our podcasts. I
- 1:12Speaker 1: host trainings and I ask people where'd you learn about us?
- 1:15Speaker 1: And it always used to be YouTube and social, but
- 1:17Speaker 1: throughout the last year, podcasts is getting quickly up there
- 1:20Speaker 1: as one of the top ways people are learning about
- 1:22Speaker 1: our company. So that is why I think if you
- 1:24Speaker 1: are a creator and let's just say you have a
- 1:26Speaker 1: significant following somewhere, or not even significant, just you know,
- 1:29Speaker 1: a following, and you want to grow that following, podcasting
- 1:33Speaker 1: is a really great way to do so one thing
- 1:35Speaker 1: I also really just want to know for us specifically,
- 1:38Speaker 1: podcasting started off as a repurposing tool. I would do
- 1:41Speaker 1: these YouTube videos all the time, and let's be honest, right,
- 1:44Speaker 1: these videos are not like highly exciting, they're not like
- 1:46Speaker 1: travel vlogs, Like it's really just me teaching. And a
- 1:50Speaker 1: lot of people I found out through my community, they're like, oh,
- 1:52Speaker 1: I watch your videos while I'm cooking or driving. I'm like,
- 1:55Speaker 1: you're watching. What I really found out is that they're listening,
- 1:59Speaker 1: and that they don't need to watch me, they need
- 2:01Speaker 1: to listen to me. So this is where we're like, Okay,
- 2:04Speaker 1: let's rip the audio from our YouTube videos and just
- 2:07Speaker 1: put that on the podcast, slap on an intro outro,
- 2:11Speaker 1: and see how it does. And that was our strategy
- 2:13Speaker 1: for a really long time, and it did really, really well.
- 2:16Speaker 1: We were literally able to repurpose our YouTube content and
- 2:20Speaker 1: take this valuable audio and distribute it on the podcasting platforms.
- 2:23Speaker 1: People who wanted to listen to us on their commute,
- 2:26Speaker 1: on their drive they could, or while they're doing their
- 2:28Speaker 1: morning walks. It just became an easier way to reach
- 2:31Speaker 1: a new audience and the type of ways that our
- 2:34Speaker 1: audience wanted to engage with us. You see, I may
- 2:37Speaker 1: be making videos, but people in fact want to listen.
- 2:40Speaker 1: Give them that opportunity too. So for us, I just
- 2:42Speaker 1: wanted to briefly share that story before I dive into
- 2:45Speaker 1: how you can use this, Because if you're already on
- 2:48Speaker 1: YouTube and you're already making videos and you think that
- 2:51Speaker 1: this audio that you already make could be repurposed on
- 2:54Speaker 1: your podcast, that would be a great place to start. Now,
- 2:56Speaker 1: maybe you're like okay, and I don't have a YouTube
- 2:58Speaker 1: like that doesn't make sense for me. Thanks for sharing
- 3:00Speaker 1: your story, but I'm starting from scratch, okay, So obviously
- 3:03Speaker 1: the first thing you're going to want to ask yourself
- 3:05Speaker 1: is not even outside of the concept of the show.
- 3:08Speaker 1: How are you going to present the show? Is it
- 3:10Speaker 1: going to be a solo show just you? Are you
- 3:12Speaker 1: going to have a co host? Do you plan to
- 3:14Speaker 1: interview people? This type of formatting helps you understand your structure,
- 3:19Speaker 1: so you're actually building out you know what type of
- 3:22Speaker 1: show this is going to be from the beginning. Sometimes
- 3:25Speaker 1: I'll have a lot of creators who start off as
- 3:27Speaker 1: a solo host and then they interview people along the way.
- 3:30Speaker 1: I personally have done that. So if you go to
- 3:31Speaker 1: my podcast, there is a mix. There's interviews with other
- 3:34Speaker 1: guests that I bring on the podcast, and then I
- 3:36Speaker 1: have a lot of my solo episodes. I do not
- 3:38Speaker 1: have a co host, but a lot of pats I
- 3:40Speaker 1: know end up working with someone else as a co host.
- 3:43Speaker 1: As for some people, it's a little scary to be like,
- 3:45Speaker 1: how can I talk for so long? Now, of course
- 3:47Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself, like, what is this show about.
- 3:50Speaker 1: One of the biggest pieces of advice I could give
- 3:52Speaker 1: anyone in the podcast world is really thinking about your
- 3:55Speaker 1: episodes as bingeable Netflix episodes, can people click play and
- 3:59Speaker 1: just keep going going through it. That may sound interesting
- 4:02Speaker 1: to y'all, But for example, I had this girl the
- 4:04Speaker 1: other day that was like, Oh, I want to do
- 4:05Speaker 1: a podcast on like autoimmune diseases, and she wanted to
- 4:08Speaker 1: do one like on Hashimotos and one on a different
- 4:11Speaker 1: autoimmune disease, I believe, Celiac disease, And through discussing this
- 4:15Speaker 1: with her, I was like, but would the Celiac disease
- 4:17Speaker 1: people want to know about the Hashimotos one? And she
- 4:20Speaker 1: was like, oh, probably not. So we realized there was
- 4:23Speaker 1: a disconnect in between the episodes and she probably wouldn't
- 4:27Speaker 1: create a stream of bingeability right Versus if she talks
- 4:30Speaker 1: about like how to live life with an autoimmune disease,
- 4:33Speaker 1: whether you have Celiac disease or hashimotos, you could benefit
- 4:37Speaker 1: from that episode. So it was trying to get us
- 4:39Speaker 1: to think about, you know, our themes, our niche our concepts,
- 4:42Speaker 1: but also making it done in a way that people
- 4:45Speaker 1: want to listen to that next episode because there is
- 4:48Speaker 1: a central anchor to the content Sidewalker Daily, perfect example.
- 4:52Speaker 1: Head over to our podcast, you are going to see
- 4:54Speaker 1: they are all interconnected, whether it's growth on YouTube, brand partnership,
- 5:00Speaker 1: affiliate income, like, it's all a web of information that
- 5:03Speaker 1: most of the creators in our community would benefit from. Also,
- 5:06Speaker 1: when you're really thinking about your podcast, just ask yourself
- 5:08Speaker 1: who is this for? Who is listening. The more you
- 5:11Speaker 1: know who's listening on the other side of the channel,
- 5:13Speaker 1: the better your content will be. Like, I literally can
- 5:16Speaker 1: see my inner circle community at the end of the
- 5:20Speaker 1: camera when I'm making my videos. I know who they are,
- 5:22Speaker 1: I know what they want. And you may not have
- 5:25Speaker 1: that community built out yet, but you need to almost
- 5:27Speaker 1: get yourself in the mindset that you do, because if not,
- 5:30Speaker 1: then you're just talking to everyone and it becomes really overwhelming.
- 5:33Speaker 1: Don't think about it in terms of like, oh, I'm
- 5:36Speaker 1: talking to this type of person. Think about the interests
- 5:39Speaker 1: that that person is interested in. So in my community,
- 5:41Speaker 1: I don't think about an age or a race or
- 5:43Speaker 1: a gender. I think about what are these people interested in? Right, So,
- 5:47Speaker 1: a creator who's interested in brand deals, she could be
- 5:49Speaker 1: seventy plus or twenty years old. They have that commonality
- 5:53Speaker 1: and they're both coming to us for that information. Almost
- 5:56Speaker 1: think about it as like pollen to the bees. What
- 5:59Speaker 1: is the pollen that you're that's attracting those bees. That
- 6:02Speaker 1: a central tie in piece of information. Now, before we
- 6:06Speaker 1: talk about recording and equipment, because I think that's a
- 6:08Speaker 1: very common question, something that I did want to mention
- 6:11Speaker 1: is ask yourself if your podcast is going to be
- 6:13Speaker 1: audio only or video and audio. Again, i'm the repurpose queen.
- 6:18Speaker 1: I'm like, if you're going to spend time doing it,
- 6:20Speaker 1: do video as well, and just like pop it on YouTube.
- 6:22Speaker 1: But for some people that is too much. They want
- 6:24Speaker 1: to be able to move fast. They don't want to
- 6:26Speaker 1: care about what they're looking, they don't want to set
- 6:28Speaker 1: up the lights. They just want to go do what's
- 6:30Speaker 1: going to make you go fast. So if audio is
- 6:32Speaker 1: going to be what makes you go fast, build the
- 6:34Speaker 1: muscle around audio and then implement video as you go.
- 6:38Speaker 1: Or if you're someone that's like, well I may as
- 6:39Speaker 1: well do video because I'm doing both, then you can
- 6:41Speaker 1: do a video podcast as while they're super popular now
- 6:44Speaker 1: and it's something you can embed into your current YouTube
- 6:46Speaker 1: channel or start a new one. All right, let's talk
- 6:48Speaker 1: about equipment because equipment is a very common question when
- 6:50Speaker 1: you're getting started. I tell this to anyone that is
- 6:53Speaker 1: getting started on something. Don't make it complicated. Okay, do
- 6:56Speaker 1: not make it complicated. If you already have a major
- 6:59Speaker 1: existing audience, then you may potentially want to invest in
- 7:02Speaker 1: specific equipment. But even doing things like in person renting,
- 7:06Speaker 1: studio time and all of that. What's the expression like,
- 7:10Speaker 1: crawl before you run? You know you could get there
- 7:12Speaker 1: And I have done that. I have done in person podcasting,
- 7:15Speaker 1: and I realized it's really expensive. There's a lot of
- 7:16Speaker 1: logistics involved. I think setting up some sort of virtual
- 7:20Speaker 1: system is really helpful in the beginning, and it allows
- 7:24Speaker 1: you to reach out to people from all over. You're
- 7:26Speaker 1: not just set to your location. And again, the equipment
- 7:28Speaker 1: for doing things virtually is very different. I'm gonna go
- 7:31Speaker 1: ahead and link some of our favorite tools below. When
- 7:33Speaker 1: it comes to mics. If you're using like your computer
- 7:36Speaker 1: to record or your desktop, I love the Samsung Q
- 7:39Speaker 1: to you. I'm gonna link that below. I also have
- 7:42Speaker 1: told people like you can literally just film with a
- 7:45Speaker 1: really high definition webcam. Again, when you're first getting started
- 7:49Speaker 1: on your desktop, have good audio, have your webcam, and
- 7:53Speaker 1: just start with that. You know, you can literally just
- 7:55Speaker 1: start with that. And I said webcam obviously if you're
- 7:57Speaker 1: doing video, But if you're doing it at home like
- 8:00Speaker 1: I do, I just have my microphone and I have
- 8:03Speaker 1: my webcam, and then I have wireless headphones. And I
- 8:05Speaker 1: don't even have fancy wireless headphones. I just have like
- 8:08Speaker 1: really cheap Amazon ones. Again, they're all in my storefront,
- 8:11Speaker 1: so I will link those for you guys if you
- 8:12Speaker 1: want to see what we're currently using for when I
- 8:14Speaker 1: do my episodes with guests, and I do them virtually,
- 8:17Speaker 1: that's what I use for them. Now. Again, if you're
- 8:19Speaker 1: already doing YouTube videos, you're shooting on your DSLR, you're
- 8:23Speaker 1: at a studio or whatever, then that equipment is obviously
- 8:27Speaker 1: something you probably already have access to if you need
- 8:30Speaker 1: recommendations on, just like regular content creation equipment. I have
- 8:34Speaker 1: that in my Amazon shop too, the cameras we use,
- 8:37Speaker 1: the lights we use when we are shooting at home
- 8:39Speaker 1: and not in the studio. Now, if you're going to
- 8:41Speaker 1: be filming your podcast, you also want to ask yourself, like,
- 8:45Speaker 1: what's the easiest way to get it up and out
- 8:47Speaker 1: there for you? So we currently use Riverside We use
- 8:50Speaker 1: Riverside because it just makes it really easily from an
- 8:54Speaker 1: editing perspective, from being able to invite guests. There's echo cancelation.
- 8:58Speaker 1: There's a ton of aif like I think, there's this
- 9:01Speaker 1: really exciting feature it just cuts out all your ums.
- 9:03Speaker 1: I love that because I say a lot in some
- 9:05Speaker 1: of my podcast episodes we use Riverside. They also are
- 9:08Speaker 1: able to take the long form video and have you know,
- 9:10Speaker 1: magic clips AI features that translate it to short form videos.
- 9:15Speaker 1: So if you want to take clips from your podcast
- 9:17Speaker 1: and use it on short form, Riverside has that capabilities
- 9:20Speaker 1: as well. They actually have this feature that I have
- 9:23Speaker 1: not tried yet. You could basically do your podcast live
- 9:25Speaker 1: and invite your audience to come listen to the podcast
- 9:28Speaker 1: while you're filming it. So it's pretty cool because it's
- 9:31Speaker 1: like kind of having like a live studio audience. So
- 9:33Speaker 1: that's an interesting element as well, and that's something that
- 9:35Speaker 1: you want to consider if you are doing guests that
- 9:38Speaker 1: you are bringing on to the episode. I find Riverside
- 9:42Speaker 1: to be really good quality production when you are going
- 9:45Speaker 1: to our guests. Anytime I bring guests on the podcast,
- 9:47Speaker 1: that's what I'm using now. I believe Riverside has a
- 9:50Speaker 1: hosting capability and distribution. We currently right now are using Speaker.
- 9:55Speaker 1: I'll link that below for you guys as well. And
- 9:58Speaker 1: Speaker is how we upload it to Spotify and to
- 10:02Speaker 1: iHeart and to Apple Podcasts. It is basically our distributor.
- 10:06Speaker 1: It distributes and hosts our content for us. There's also
- 10:09Speaker 1: really great analytics inside of Speaker where I can see
- 10:11Speaker 1: my monthly downloads, my daily downloads, and it gives me
- 10:15Speaker 1: accessibility to stats and monetization as well, because you can
- 10:19Speaker 1: obviously be monetizing your podcast when it hits a certain
- 10:23Speaker 1: number of downloads. Now, speaking of guests, I do just
- 10:26Speaker 1: want to share our process for how we get guests
- 10:29Speaker 1: to come on and then what we do once we
- 10:31Speaker 1: get them on, because I do think that's an important
- 10:33Speaker 1: part of the podcast puzzle. You know, you're going to
- 10:36Speaker 1: be pitching people to come on to you and speak,
- 10:39Speaker 1: and then once they say sure, I'd love to be
- 10:41Speaker 1: a part of this, then you need to have systems
- 10:43Speaker 1: in place to make sure that flow happens from getting
- 10:46Speaker 1: them to say yes to recording and executing. So we
- 10:49Speaker 1: pitch podcast speakers just like we do brand deals. Right,
- 10:52Speaker 1: we have a company deck that we include. It's a
- 10:55Speaker 1: very visual deck, and this is so when people do
- 10:58Speaker 1: get our cold pitch, they're able to see who we
- 11:00Speaker 1: are in a glance, and a little bit about our podcast,
- 11:03Speaker 1: the episodes we make about us as a company, and
- 11:06Speaker 1: it really helps give that speaker confidence and wanting to
- 11:09Speaker 1: work with us because they're not just getting like a
- 11:11Speaker 1: random pitch. It's almost like they're getting our media kit
- 11:14Speaker 1: without the things that I would include in a traditional
- 11:16Speaker 1: media kit. Right, So, if you're a creator and you're
- 11:18Speaker 1: putting together your podcast deck, you can use a lot
- 11:21Speaker 1: of the information from your media kit, but you want
- 11:23Speaker 1: to tweak it because this is about like podcast guests,
- 11:25Speaker 1: so you're not talking to brand, so you're probably including
- 11:28Speaker 1: some verges, like we'd love to have you on the podcast.
- 11:31Speaker 1: Here are sample episodes, get to know my audience, here's
- 11:33Speaker 1: my stats around my community. You know, you're going to
- 11:36Speaker 1: want a good active pitch deck to use when you're
- 11:39Speaker 1: pitching your guests, and obviously some sort of email pitch
- 11:43Speaker 1: template that you have generated to get guests interested. Whenever
- 11:47Speaker 1: I pitch guests, I actually think of like what I
- 11:50Speaker 1: would want to talk about with them and include those
- 11:53Speaker 1: ideas in my pitch. So if I'm pitching like a
- 11:55Speaker 1: Pinterest expert, I'm going to say, here's three ideas that
- 11:58Speaker 1: I would love the episode to be on, and then
- 12:01Speaker 1: I'll say something in my pitch like, of course these
- 12:02Speaker 1: ideas are flexible, but you know, here's what I'm thinking,
- 12:05Speaker 1: and it kind of lets that guest know, like, here
- 12:07Speaker 1: are my pitch angles, right, here are some things I
- 12:10Speaker 1: want to talk about. And I found that we've had
- 12:12Speaker 1: pretty good success once the guest sees what the episodes
- 12:15Speaker 1: are about and they're able to see our pitch deck. Now,
- 12:17Speaker 1: once the person says sure, we'd love to be on
- 12:20Speaker 1: your podcast, then it goes over to another process. And
- 12:23Speaker 1: this is where we have like a really nice onboarding
- 12:26Speaker 1: form you can use like Google docs or type form
- 12:29Speaker 1: or whatever you would need to send that like survey
- 12:32Speaker 1: to them. And this is where you're asking them, you know,
- 12:34Speaker 1: for their headshot, you know a little bit about their business,
- 12:37Speaker 1: their bios, so you can introduce them like things they
- 12:40Speaker 1: don't want to talk about. I have that and people
- 12:42Speaker 1: have said, hey, don't ask me about this, this or this.
- 12:45Speaker 1: You know what they do want to talk about anything,
- 12:48Speaker 1: you know, links for their business for their socials, so
- 12:51Speaker 1: that way it's all in one place. So when we
- 12:53Speaker 1: are uploading the episode, we have all their links, we
- 12:56Speaker 1: have everything needed. You know, we have their headshot as well,
- 12:59Speaker 1: so that we can go ahead and make flyers or
- 13:01Speaker 1: social media content around it. So having some sort of
- 13:05Speaker 1: onboarding form once your guest says yes is also very
- 13:09Speaker 1: important to make the process as seamless as possible. We
- 13:12Speaker 1: also always let our guests know once the episode is live.
- 13:15Speaker 1: I tend to wait like at the end of the
- 13:17Speaker 1: day to let them know, or you can let them
- 13:19Speaker 1: know at the beginning. I don't think it matters. But again,
- 13:22Speaker 1: this makes it really simple for them to share because
- 13:24Speaker 1: we include the link. And oftentimes when we have this
- 13:28Speaker 1: like email drafted, it's a template and we'll be like
- 13:32Speaker 1: your episode and we link the episode is live, like
- 13:34Speaker 1: thank you so much. You know, if you want to
- 13:36Speaker 1: share it, this is you know, the information, make sure
- 13:38Speaker 1: to tag us and having some sort of email already
- 13:41Speaker 1: set for when we send it to the guests. Now,
- 13:43Speaker 1: regarding the length of time of the episode, I would
- 13:47Speaker 1: say solo episode should be around twenty minutes because the
- 13:50Speaker 1: idea here is you're kind of getting on and building
- 13:53Speaker 1: this community with you where they want to listen to
- 13:55Speaker 1: you talk and you have value to add. Interestingly enough,
- 13:59Speaker 1: I've seen podcasts that do like five minute episodes, but
- 14:01Speaker 1: they do them every day, so it's kind of like
- 14:03Speaker 1: quick little bites, quick little tips, and people love that,
- 14:06Speaker 1: I think on podcasts, so you have the freedom to
- 14:08Speaker 1: go long it's kind of like long form on YouTube.
- 14:10Speaker 1: You really have that freedom to take your time, to
- 14:12Speaker 1: not have your wings clipped, and to be able to
- 14:14Speaker 1: share the value you want with your audience. If you're
- 14:17Speaker 1: doing a interview series, I usually keep mine under an
- 14:21Speaker 1: hour out of respect to my guests, but I've seen
- 14:24Speaker 1: episodes that are like an hour and a half and
- 14:26Speaker 1: people will listen. But just remember that you know length
- 14:29Speaker 1: of time in the podcast world, you are not cut off.
- 14:32Speaker 1: You don't need to stick to a certain number. And
- 14:35Speaker 1: people who listen to you for twenty minutes, thirty minutes,
- 14:38Speaker 1: forty minutes, mark my words, they care about you way
- 14:41Speaker 1: more than someone that watches you for thirty seconds. And
- 14:44Speaker 1: that's why podcasting is so powerful for true community building.
- 14:49Speaker 1: So if you are a creator that's trying to build community,
- 14:52Speaker 1: build trust, build authority, podcasting could be a really good
- 14:56Speaker 1: space for you to learn more about. I hope you
- 14:59Speaker 1: and enjoy today's episode. If you did, make sure to rate, review,
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- 15:12Speaker 1: Until next time,