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The Best Sports Documentary is... | The MindSets Podcast | Episode 65 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to another episode of the 90s
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  podcast Child. This is episode 65 is it How
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  crazy is that is amazing motoring.
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  Today we are bringing a topic that we have planned for ages.
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  We are going to be talking about some of the best sports
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  documentaries out there and what we think of them as they were
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  because there are some that are quite old, but also like where
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  that's all going now I think is. In the making?
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  Yeah, it. Is, but first of all, yeah,
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  what's what's been going on? What's what's been happening in
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  the world of fitness? What's been happening in your
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  life? I know you're trying to target a
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  specific area for me to talk about, which was my 10K race.
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  Yeah, I am right. Yeah, yeah.
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  Yeah, I mean it, it was, it was good.
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  It was last Sunday. I don't know if I spoke about
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  the route or the event. I must have spoken about the
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  actual event. You've spoken about the event
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  because it was in the middle of nowhere, right?
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  But I think the most interesting thing for those that don't
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  follow Charles on Strava, I would recommend it because he
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  chooses some of the most interesting running routes in
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  races. This.
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  Was this was nothing to do with me?
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  This was event organization, but this was the inaugural Woolwich
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  10K, which was, I mean, it was something in itself.
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  It was actually a lovely event, lots of nice people, and it was
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  well organized, but it was no soccer.
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  Any shortage 10K, I'll tell you that much for free.
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  And I was really excited because it was in Woolwich, it was down
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  the Thames Path. In my head.
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  It's going to be super flat. This is going to be a good time
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  for me to set a fast, fast. 10K. In the middle of the race, they
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  just run you up a hill for no reason and it's like it's so
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  steep. It's like a spiral up this hill
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  just to go back down. I I before you actually messaged
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  me about it, I obviously went and looked at your Strava.
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  I knew you were done. So I went and looked and I saw
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  in the middle there was something weird going on.
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  And I was like, oh, clearly the Strava map's like fucked up.
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  Yeah, It's just like a weird blip.
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  And sometimes it does that. But I zoomed in and it was a
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  perfect spiral, the perfect. And I was like, what?
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  What? How does this work in a court?
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  How does that look like with people running past each other?
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  And then I looked up where that was and it's just a.
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  Mound A man made literally. And it's like, yeah, it looked
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  really weird. They were just like make sure
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  you run on the left. Oh wow, so they didn't even
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  divide the road? No, you just went and then came
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  straight right down. So you actually had to like turn
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  around at the top and then come. Down by divide the road.
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  I think you're imagining this event to be slightly larger than
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  it was. OK, so it was a there were 100.
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  132 people running, so it was like, I'm sure there's thousands
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  that run the Saucony. So this one's slightly smaller
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  scale, and as a result I came third.
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  You came third. The podium finished Baby I.
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  Was going to say, did you get a bronze medal?
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  Do you get podium? Well, I got a medal, but
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  everyone got a medal and a banana and a bottle of water.
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  Oh wow, took care of you and your.
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  I'm going to have to show you after this the photo of the
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  registration because it's literally behind a Sports Center
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  and someone has handwritten the sign registration here on a on
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  it on like an old cardboard box and just slapped it off on the
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  wall. So it was like it was it was low
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  key. But I'm hoping this this could
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  be the start of great things for the Woolwich tank.
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  Do you know what? That sounds like a secret invite
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  only event that you podiumed in so.
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  And now when people say how does it how did it go?
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  I just would say what I came third and no one then asks me
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  what my time was they just to see my rapid.
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  Yeah, true. Yeah, it was, it was, it was, it
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  was just over like 30 odd minutes.
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  So you know. Somewhere just above like the
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  the high 20s. But generally speaking,
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  considering the fact that there was just the roguest, spiral and
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  hill in the course, happy with the time you did get.
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  I wanted to break 40, yeah, which is yeah, which I didn't,
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  but I I don't want to blame it on the hill because I was
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  struggling anyway. I think I would have struggled
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  to break 40 even if it was a flat course.
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  So on another day I probably had better legs and could have gone
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  a bit faster. But overall it was a good
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  experience and was kind of just an ad hoc.
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  Let's see what my 10K is at as I now enter full time high works
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  training for London. I mean, is actually quite close.
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  I'm going to say between like 12 and 15 weeks, Yeah, it's quite
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  scary. I think 12 weeks is September
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  15th. Yeah.
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  And by think I know. And remind me is that if your
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  your pro lows, your pro solo debut?
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  Debut. Yeah, Big.
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  One feeling happy about that or like.
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  I'm actually super excited. I'm I'm trying to like no
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  expectation. It's the first time I've raced
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  in the pro category. I want to go and enjoy it and
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  yeah, don't put any pressure on it, but I've I've within saying
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  that I've got the most rigid training routine from now until
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  then, so if I don't perform I'll be severely disappointed.
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  Oh, nice. Yeah, yeah.
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  Cool. But there's no pressure.
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  Low bar, low bar, well of of things that have been going on
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  in terms of running where people have achieved certain times.
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  This week I'm going to let you introduce this news because
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  World Record has been brilliant. Sabusio Quebecca, I think that's
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  what you're going to do, trying to trip me up on that.
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  No, no, I was just checking to see if you were going to say it
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  right as I was obviously going to say it, obviously.
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  But no. What?
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  What a man. He's 100 kilometres in under 6
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  hours, which for those of you that can't do the mental maths
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  right now, that's an average of 3 minutes, 36 per kilometre for
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  100 kilometres straight. Crazy.
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  Yeah. There's there's so many things
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  to unpick here and I don't, I don't really know where to
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  start. The first thing is that it was
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  like it was so low key and it just like it popped up on social
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  media. I think I'd heard of it.
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  I don't even think I'd heard of the the attempt before it was it
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  it'd been announced. So I.
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  Don't know when the official attempt was happening.
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  What I saw on social media was that Adidas was working on this
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  project and it seemed very similar to like Nike trying to
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  do the that sort of thing. But I, I saw it and I saw a guy
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  who is the current world record holder.
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  I think he had in about 6 hours, 5 minutes saying I'm pretty
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  aware that my record's going to get broken, but.
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  Because he ran it as well. Yeah, He was one of the Yeah.
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  So he was like, but I'm hoping it is going to be me that does
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  it. So that's what I saw was a bit
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  of hype for it and I was like, oh, I wonder when this is going
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  down. Like I know it has to be soon
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  because they wouldn't want to, Adidas wouldn't want to announce
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  it and then someone else beat them to it.
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  But like it's got to be coming up in the next few months.
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  Yeah, it was like 3 days later, yeah.
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  Yeah, and. I had no idea what was going on.
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  Amazing like the just the like the physical feat is just
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  extraordinary in itself 336 for for just under 6 hours like
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  that's. I think the maddest thing about
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  that is I'm thinking of that as like 336 insane speed to be
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  running. But if that's your average
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  considering towards the back end he's obviously likely to have
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  tailed off, that means for the most part I would imagine at
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  least a marathon. He's probably running sub 3:30.
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  It's crazy and and he's also having to then take on fuel,
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  which obviously you would in a marathon, but you're doing more
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  fueling over the course of that amount of time.
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  It's just like more components to go wrong and potential
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  pitfalls. But I hope that because again, I
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  knew we were going to talk about this today.
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  I've been researching it and looking up about it and just
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  finding as much as I can about it.
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  There isn't all that much of it out there.
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  Like Adidas have this detailed breakdown on the equipment, how
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  they developed the shoe, how they developed the suits that
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  they were wearing, who was running.
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  But there's not all that much other than like a one page
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  article on Adidas that I could find really as an official
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  source. There's no like videos on
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  YouTube. There's there's one interview
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  with with him after he raced, which is like, and that's it.
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  That's all we do. This point towards this points
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  towards the fact that there has to be some sort of big release
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  coming out of all that. And what I hope So what I want,
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  yeah. And because what I want to see
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  from that is does that whether it was 5 hours, 5756 minutes
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  than it was that he managed to do that in, does that include
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  like over six hours? I imagine he had to pee like
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  maybe he just did. It's a good question.
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  Paula. It just went on the go.
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  Maybe he had to shit as well, but like, did all of that
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  happen? Within that time, yeah, 'cause
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  I. I mean to me pre advance it
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  doesn't count if they didn't count stop time.
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  Oh no, it was. It can't have been like a.
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  Land time. They won't have done that.
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  No, they can't So, but it was like a perf.
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  You saw the course, It's like a perfect.
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  Ring yes. And interestingly, I was just
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  making sure I was aware of this from the time we first mentioned
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  this. He would have done over a
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  kilometer. Yeah.
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  But he'd just do that 100 times, which is mad that he's able to
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  run a commodity in that time and it just.
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  Also, like the guys who ran with him, because it was a, there was
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  a team that they'd worked with all of them, they all had
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  specific shoes, etcetera, etcetera.
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  The specifications to their running.
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  Imagine running a six hour, which would have been the
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  previous record and you're still not as fast as this guy.
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  Yeah. And also Cebusio when I saw this
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  this happened I went on his Instagram account like 2800
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  followers what the hell? But then, but then.
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  But now he's got. But he's he's only got 15 K.
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  The guy is like a superhuman. He needs more followers.
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  Yeah, well, although when I went on to his page, all I saw was
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  that the. Repost of him.
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  Not not even that, but it it was within like the the most recent
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  20 posts had come out within about half an hour and he just
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  collaborated with. Yeah, yeah, that's and I was
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  like. And overseas, all the pages.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's immediately the same photo.
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  Yeah, incredible. But I, I imagine off the back of
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  this, he obviously is going to get that sort of coverage and
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  following, especially if he continues to.
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  But I think that's always tough because like we said, we only
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  knew about it three days before. If we knew more about the
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  athletes and the build up to it, then they would have built a bit
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  more of a following. But I can't remember which book
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  it was, but one of the two books you recommended really talks
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  about how running is the escape for some people out of, you
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  know, the life that they grew up in.
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  That could potentially be like a Canon event and should be a
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  Canon event for his like legacy for sure.
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  But it's just a bit, it's a bit tough because like, where do you
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  go from there? But you can run six.
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  You can run a sub six hour 100K on a perfect course.
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  But like most 100K distances that are done are like ultras
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  and ultra running's a totally different.
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  Ball game. This is the and I'm glad you
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  bring it up because I, I want to talk about that as well, because
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  Ultra running is like, unless you're in it, you, you have no
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  idea. It's like so elusive and, and so
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  interesting and there's lots of characters and different people
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  and records and courses and just things that are so alien to
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  people who aren't in the Ultra running community, which is
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  really fascinating. So, yeah, I mean, he's been on
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  this perfect course in Italy. If you take him out into the the
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  middle of the canyons in in America and you're running up
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  and down over rocks and you have a crew with you and you have to
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  do your own fueling strategy and whatever, it's a whole different
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  ball game. So there is like a difference
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  between, in my mind, like he's the peak of performance for like
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  going fast for an ultra. But is that conducive to being
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  peak performance for someone who can just keep plugging away,
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  plugging away, plugging away? Not to take away from the fact
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  that the top ultras runners are also rapid.
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  Yeah, 1 the sort of way that I look at it in another sporting
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  perspective is, is he, is he a NASCAR car?
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like built for going in a
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  perfect loop basically for a very long time endlessly.
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  But then as soon as you put like a chicane out there, it hits the
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  wall like they can't do anything.
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  Is that really where that niche is becoming?
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  Is that potentially something that he might do this one, break
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  that record and then just never go anywhere close to it again?
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  Because he's like, actually marathon running is where the
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  money is for me, yeah. It's it's it's really
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  interesting and I'd be, I'd be interested to know and I hope
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  that's, I hope Adidas do release a documentary about it.
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  I'm sure they will. But how they selected the
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  runners, how they selected him, what his background is,
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  etcetera, etcetera in in running and is I assume it must be long
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  distance road running, but yeah, it's there.
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  The kind of the the parallel between actually running ultra
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  marathons? Or do you just stay on the road
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  like you say? Yeah.
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  And I think just to again, it is wild that someone can run 336
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  for that long. Yeah.
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  But if we're talking about and this just re emphasizes the
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  marathon world record, take 34 seconds per kilometre off that
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  and still do it 42 and a bit times in a row.
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  And then you get the marathon world record when you're when
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  you're talking margins that big at that level, it's just mental
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  monumental. Yeah, honestly, it's and I, we
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  obviously in around more than than most people because we do a
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  lot of training and we're surrounded by people who do a
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  lot of running. And I'm in a fortunate position
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  to know lots of fast marathon runners, but even a fast
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  marathon runner who operates in similar circles to us, who has a
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  day job and basically marathon runs for fun, but is really
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  bloody good at it. They might run like a anywhere
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  between a two hour 20 and a two hour 30 and you go, that is
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  unbelievable. Like that is incredible.
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  But you can't take anything away from that achievement.
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  People running two hours 3, like low two hours.
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  It's just like, I don't know how how you get there and it is.
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  It's just like. Crazy 'cause like if you
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  actually literally took their race and put it to if you just
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  turned their current marathon speed and put it as a 1
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  kilometer race, the differential between that two hour 3 and that
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  two hour 30 when two hour 30 is still an unbelievable time.
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  Unbelievable is a massive gap across 1 kilometer.
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  Yeah, Let alone like when you think about like running up in
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  the distance. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  But this kind of all ties into the theme of today's podcast,
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  where Charles actually yesterday, which is really where
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  the idea of today's broadcasters come from, sent me.
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  What is a YouTube documentary like?
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  You should watch this. This could be cool to talk
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  about. And it essentially follows a guy
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  who is certainly going to be nicknamed the Destroyer, full
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  name Hans Troyer, sick name. That's unreal.
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  Who? We.
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  That we. Didn't practice like you know,
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  we didn't essentially without trying to do too much in the way
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  of spoilers and maybe it's just best to say if you really,
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  really want to watch it and you want to watch it was a good
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  idea, just go watch it now before you listen to the rest of
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  this. But this kid effectively, and
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  that's how he's referred to in this short documentary, just
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  burst on the scene with no regard for Ultra running at all.
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  Like he just decided to rock up and be sick at it one day.
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  And then it was a bit of a journey over the fact that he
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  wasn't that experienced and made quite a few mistakes.
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  But there's so much at all. We're here.
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  So you kick us off with this and I'll, I'll follow your lead on
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  things because I have things to weigh in on that happened
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  through his journey. Well, I was it's it's a kind of
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  that fascinating thing where there's so much about ultra
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  endurance and ultra racing that just you, you don't know or
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  understand. And even watching this
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  documentary, it follows hands, but you don't actually really
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  get too much of an insight into anyone else in the community or
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  whatever. But I mean, it's, it's a
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  masterpiece in marketing because basically what it is, it's it's
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  a sponsorship video. It's like his sponsors.
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  And I think it's Hyperlite, which is like a performance
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  supplement that you take during a race and follows the the fact
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  that he's unsponsored and they message him on Strava obviously,
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  and go, do you have a nutrition sponsor?
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  Like he, he must be so good. He must have loads of sponsors.
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  He's like, no, I don't have any sponsors.
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  Unless you have zeros. And they're like, what's going
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  on? Let's work together.
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  And it's, it's, it's a really cool partnership because, and
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  again, like, I'm just going to spoil it.
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  He, he, he, he in this, in his second race that he goes and
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  runs. He runs himself like into the
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  ground to the point where he's then in hospital for 12 days
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  after the race with severe abdomyolysis myelosis, however
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  you pronounce it. And essentially like has I think
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  his brother at one point they interview him, they go Hans, you
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  know, you're literally that guy who can run further than his
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  mind can, can kind of stop him. His mind can push his body
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  further but his body knows he can run, which is like so
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  unusual and I don't know if that is actually true, but like he
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  has the ability to run a long time very quickly well.
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  What was really interesting, but literally based off like what
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  happened to me 2-3 months ago, I was watching this and they were
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  talking like, oh, we don't really see him fuelling.
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  And I was like, Oh no, here we go.
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  Like here we go. I remember this.
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  I remember just refusing water and then they he crosses the
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  line having won and then they like, Oh no, he didn't win.
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  No, he didn't win. He came tenth.
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  He was really disappointed still.
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  Like this was in his first year of like native ultra running.
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  So he gets in the car, they start driving away and then they
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  turn around and come back to the event so they can go and see
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  like a medic and he goes for a piss basically.
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  And it's like Coca-Cola coloured.
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  And I was like, oh shit. Like I remember that.
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  Obviously I took the decision that I'd be fine and then like
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  watching that documentary, I'm like God, like maybe I shouldn't
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  have done that. But then at the same time I
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  obviously didn't run. Those levels for the duration.
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  Like I I done a one hour and a bit event.
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  He had run I think another 20 miles from when he lost actually
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  filled himself, which is like totally different.
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  We're talking like an hour and a half, couple of hours.
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  It was like 100K, wasn't it? Yeah, so so.
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  He had done a completely different event, but then seeing
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  the result of that was like, for me, I was watching it.
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  I was like, this is so dangerous, like hospitalized.
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  He was there for a while, and when?
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  You when when they're explaining the the symptoms and what
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  happens when you have rhabdomyolysis because your
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  kidneys essentially just stop any sort of ability to remove
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  waste product. There's just random waste fluid
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  in your body and it can't go anywhere.
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  It literally like starts sitting on the lungs and like filling up
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  it like you can die from it. So it's like exercise induced
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  and it's, it's really dangerous. So I don't know if there's a
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  like a helpline or something. I don't know what I'm trying to
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  do here, but it has. If you have symptoms, I'll
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  definitely go and see the specialist.
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  Again, so so just fire off quickly symptoms.
• 18:43
  You feel light headed, you look pale after an event and you feel
• 18:48
  like you've got no energy. And then you realize you haven't
• 18:50
  pissed or done more than that the entire time or for quite a
• 18:54
  long time. Realistically, depending on how
• 18:56
  long the event is, you haven't fuelled properly beforehand or
• 18:59
  had enough water fluid beforehand.
• 19:01
  And then so when you do go to the toilet, it looks like
• 19:04
  Coca-Cola. That's not good because that can
• 19:06
  be blood. And then immediately you'll
• 19:11
  start having a lot of cramps as well, but you'll just have the
• 19:15
  worst DOMS come on pretty quickly and it's basically
• 19:19
  because your muscles trying to eat themselves, right.
• 19:22
  So like, that's when you should probably go and get looked at
• 19:24
  from personal and the experience of that.
• 19:26
  And if you want to see it seriously, then go and watch
• 19:29
  this for sure. But off the back of that, that's
• 19:33
  when he started to make his name for himself.
• 19:35
  And, and the, the reason that he, the, the guys with the brand
• 19:39
  were so interested in him, kind of liked him was the day before
• 19:43
  that event, he went and did like a shake out run and he was like,
• 19:48
  it was something like coming for you, Jim or something.
• 19:50
  Which, and Jim is a very famous ultra runner who currently held
• 19:54
  the course record for that race, which the next day he went and
• 19:56
  broke the course record, which was a prior race before the
• 19:59
  Rabdo thing. But like they jumped on him.
• 20:02
  Then then he goes and does this and it's like they're like,
• 20:04
  who's this kid just calling out the greatest of all time?
• 20:07
  Like you don't do that. And then just like literally run
• 20:09
  himself into the ground. And then that was also the
• 20:12
  highlight for them, where they. It it was clearly something he
• 20:16
  needed help with. Yeah.
• 20:17
  Which really helped them get into into work.
• 20:19
  Yeah, yeah. Which is like a nice
• 20:21
  collaboration. Yeah.
• 20:23
  And so then over the following year and I actually didn't know
• 20:26
  this about which running, but you you get a golden ticket to
• 20:30
  go and like. PP like world champs basically.
• 20:34
  Essentially, and there's a bit where essentially he signed up
• 20:38
  for this race. The whole video crew sponsors
• 20:41
  have flown out. And I know how awkward this be
• 20:43
  this would be as a video, as a videographer being at this event
• 20:46
  waiting for this person to come. But he was ill, like severely
• 20:50
  ill. And so the day before he's like,
• 20:52
  yeah, I'm not coming to pre rest, sorry guys.
• 20:54
  And they're like they're saying the camera like we kind of hope
• 20:57
  he's fine tomorrow because we've flown all the video guys out
• 21:00
  here. And then the next shot is the
• 21:03
  sponsor walking up to the front desk and they're like, yeah, so
• 21:06
  he's not going to be running like, do I need to do anything?
• 21:09
  And they're like, no, it's fine. But there was a bit of an impact
• 21:14
  with the fact that he was obviously expected to be out the
• 21:16
  front of that race, like competing for the one of his
• 21:18
  first three positions to get this golden ticket.
• 21:21
  And so a lot of people were apparently strategizing their
• 21:23
  race to try and take him down, but they didn't know when it
• 21:26
  came to the start line that he was there.
• 21:29
  But yeah, so then it ended up being that wasn't his only
• 21:31
  chance. He had one more.
• 21:33
  It was like the last opportunity to get the golden ticket.
• 21:36
  Yeah. And then, yeah, just just go and
• 21:38
  watch it because it's like, it's an insight into like the weird,
• 21:42
  wacky world of ultra running. And it's something that I didn't
• 21:44
  know basically anything about, but it is super interesting.
• 21:47
  And it's kind of opened up a whole can of worms, really.
• 21:50
  And the thing that I really liked off the back of that Rabdo
• 21:54
  experience was that actual ability to push so hard.
• 21:59
  And he's got that like proper dog in him that he's like
• 22:01
  willing to push. But his whole mantra is like
• 22:03
  he's young and he's fit and he's kind of a little bit fearless
• 22:07
  and a bit reckless. Maybe in that case, too reckless
• 22:10
  probably. But with the help now of new
• 22:13
  sponsors and as like up and coming in the sport, I think
• 22:16
  it's when I look at ultra running, there's no one who
• 22:20
  comes to mind to me to go, wow, they're really cool.
• 22:24
  And I want to follow that person because they're young and
• 22:27
  interesting and in the sport. So I think he's, I think he's
• 22:30
  really good for the sport. And, and off the back of that,
• 22:34
  I'm, I'm glad we, we decided to, to kind of use this as a, as a
• 22:38
  topic for today's podcast, because there's another amazing
• 22:41
  documentary. And that's kind of the, the line
• 22:43
  of kind of the, the way the podcast is going to go today.
• 22:47
  But there's another amazing podcast, sorry, documentary
• 22:50
  called the Alpinist and it's very, very similar.
• 22:54
  But do you want to kind of like introduce the topics that we're
• 22:58
  going to talk about? Well, essentially we started
• 23:00
  talking about this one as a documentary that we I had just
• 23:04
  watched in the last 24 hours. And then I one of my favorite
• 23:06
  things and obviously with the job and line of work that I have
• 23:09
  chosen to go into is I love seeing not like necessarily the
• 23:13
  behind the scenes, but I love seeing the raw bits of sport,
• 23:16
  which you usually actually don't have access to as a fan.
• 23:19
  And I think if I look at what my parents grew up with with sport,
• 23:23
  they were really fortunate if they went to go and watch a
• 23:25
  match day because they get to see their, you know, the famous
• 23:28
  player 100 meters away from it. Be like, Oh my God.
• 23:30
  Whereas this brings you into the locker room, this brings you
• 23:33
  into their training like. Literally into their house.
• 23:36
  And all of a sudden you leave it with them, which is something
• 23:39
  that is a fan experience and a sports is someone that's so
• 23:43
  interested in sport. This is unbelievable, but
• 23:45
  there's certain it's developed a lot since sort of the early
• 23:49
  2000s and that's where I want to talk about this.
• 23:52
  But there's what's been really cool is how many sports it's got
• 23:55
  into. Amazing.
• 23:56
  So carry on with the Alpinist. The reason why I use this as
• 24:00
  kind of like the parallel between the kid and and the
• 24:03
  Alpinist that I mean they're, they're completely different
• 24:05
  productions. Like the Alpinist is a full
• 24:08
  length documentary. I'm sure it was on platforms
• 24:11
  like Netflix or Amazon or whatever.
• 24:14
  Whereas The Kid is literally just like a really well done
• 24:17
  marketing documentary on on YouTube.
• 24:20
  But it's got like 1.2 million views and it's a couple of
• 24:24
  months old, which is crazy. And I think that's why it's
• 24:26
  become so popular just so quickly because it's really well
• 24:29
  done. But The Alchemist is very
• 24:31
  similar in terms of, it follows a climber called Marc Andre,
• 24:35
  who's this Canadian kid who's a bit crazy and, and wild and a
• 24:39
  bit wacky, a little bit like Hans Troyer from the kid.
• 24:43
  And Marc Andre is like, I, I don't fit in the classroom.
• 24:47
  So it's like as as a, as a young kid, he's just like, yeah, I'm
• 24:50
  going to leave school and I'm going to go to Yosemite and live
• 24:53
  with the climbing community as you do.
• 24:54
  And he also lives in like a little caravan in the woods, and
• 24:58
  he just spends his life climbing.
• 25:01
  And similar to Alex Honnell, who's much more famous for free
• 25:06
  solo, which I'm sure we'll talk about, but Marc Andre does a
• 25:10
  load of free soloing. So just like climbing with ropes
• 25:13
  and just has some wires disconnected or never had those
• 25:16
  wires where we were, you know, that's really dangerous if you
• 25:19
  climb that really high thing without any ropes.
• 25:20
  He just has like. Wind comes on and you actually
• 25:23
  just. Watching this thing like sweaty
• 25:26
  palms. But he also then goes and does
• 25:28
  ice climbing. And they in the Alpinist, they
• 25:30
  interview Alex Honnell, who's like, yeah, even I wouldn't ice
• 25:35
  climb without ropes. Like it's that level because the
• 25:37
  ice is so unpredictable. It melts, it cracks, it breaks.
• 25:40
  It's just honestly, I don't want to go into any more detail on
• 25:43
  the Alpinist because I will just ruin it.
• 25:45
  But you've got to go. I don't know.
• 25:47
  I think I watched it on Emirates on a flight.
• 25:49
  Really. Oh, it was one of those.
• 25:52
  No, I'd been recommended it and I couldn't find anywhere else.
• 25:55
  I'm sure it'd be on YouTube or on on Amazon or something.
• 25:59
  But it's it's so well worth watching, especially it's like
• 26:02
  opens up a whole new kind of culture and and sporting
• 26:06
  community within, within climbing.
• 26:08
  And how old is that? Not that old I'd say like within
• 26:13
  the last 5-6 years probably. So what I was saying originally
• 26:18
  with the topic was that going behind the scenes was a bit of a
• 26:22
  weird thing that you didn't really see.
• 26:25
  And I think the whole purpose of that originally was that if you
• 26:27
  look at sport from a business perspective and marketing
• 26:29
  perspective, you would only want to see the absolute the best of
• 26:32
  everything. So as a team, you want to see
• 26:34
  the team when they're performing.
• 26:36
  You do not want to show them in training because they might not
• 26:38
  look that professional. Whereas what has now been
• 26:41
  realised is actually that works better because people are more
• 26:43
  invested or like to see that it's unprofessional at points
• 26:46
  and like what goes on personality.
• 26:48
  Right Exactly. Like rather than making these
• 26:50
  people look like gods, actually no, they are people.
• 26:53
  They're not that different. They have real life struggles as
• 26:56
  well. But I could well be wrong here.
• 27:01
  But I think it all started from American sport, and that's
• 27:04
  because America has always been America and that it throws way
• 27:07
  more money at short than most other that most other nations
• 27:11
  can. But my first knowledge of this
• 27:14
  sort of thing was Hard Knocks. And that that will immediately
• 27:18
  be like, people will hear that and be like, yeah, 100%.
• 27:20
  I know what Hard Knocks is. Other people have no idea.
• 27:23
  Hard Knocks. Essentially, every year the NFL
• 27:26
  would assign Hard Knocks to a team.
• 27:28
  Back then they didn't really have a choice.
• 27:30
  They had to do it. And this film crew would move
• 27:34
  into the training camp of one team and would film everything
• 27:38
  behind the scenes, all the training, they put mics on the
• 27:41
  players. You'd get all the pre season
• 27:43
  games and you'd have really in depth storylines there.
• 27:46
  And then come start of the season, cameras were out because
• 27:50
  all of a sudden you could actually be learning the play
• 27:51
  calls. You can be a longer filming.
• 27:53
  Sure. Yeah.
• 27:54
  So it was only ever the pre season training camp, which is
• 27:56
  also really exciting because you would watch that and then you'd
• 28:01
  have the entire season to watch the team that you just followed.
• 28:04
  It would obviously be somewhat delayed so you wouldn't be able
• 28:06
  to watch it as it was happening, but it would be 1 episode a
• 28:08
  week. What was really cool about that
• 28:11
  and was so different was that you saw the utter rawness when
• 28:18
  it came to the business side of sport.
• 28:20
  So for those that don't know, and it is very cutthroat across
• 28:24
  most sport really. Like, you are a person, yes, but
• 28:27
  you're not treated like a person on the book.
• 28:29
  So if you know, you weren't providing much to me as a
• 28:34
  general, as an owner or as a as a head coach, I'd probably say
• 28:37
  to the owner, like we got to trade him.
• 28:40
  There's a particularly famous scene, which is actually quite
• 28:43
  sad looking back because the player ended up taking their own
• 28:45
  life a few years on. Not related specifically to this
• 28:48
  move, but a lot of people connotated this move.
• 28:50
  But he was a running back and he got called into the office,
• 28:56
  arguably in the prime of his career, but just having a bit of
• 28:58
  a lull. And they're like, so just to let
• 28:59
  you know you've been traded, you need to hand in your playbook
• 29:04
  and, and that will be done. And then he's like, OK, cool,
• 29:07
  can I can I call my grandma? And he's like, sure, no problem.
• 29:11
  And he's like trying to get his phone out and he's like, no, no,
• 29:12
  no, before you call your grandma, let's talk business.
• 29:14
  OK, I know you're going to do well, you need to go there like
• 29:18
  overnight. And then he replies and he's
• 29:21
  like, what did you trade me for? And they're like a couple picks
• 29:26
  and in in American football, they've obviously got the draft.
• 29:29
  And this goes for a bunch of sports, but you have your draft
• 29:31
  picks. So teams can trade.
• 29:33
  Let's say next year, I know that well, I might not know, but next
• 29:37
  year at some point in round one, I'm going to get to pick a
• 29:40
  player. That's just the way it works.
• 29:41
  I will. I don't know when it will be
• 29:44
  right now, but I can offer my pick to the team so that when
• 29:49
  next year comes around, instead of me choosing, that team would
• 29:52
  get it. But I'm going to get their
• 29:53
  player right now. Yeah.
• 29:54
  So they literally got a couple picks and it was basically them
• 29:57
  saying like we don't really want you anymore, but we'll get
• 30:00
  something. For you, and it literally is as
• 30:01
  fast as, hey, we've made the trade, you're done.
• 30:05
  You need to training them for them tomorrow.
• 30:07
  Like that it could be the other side of the country.
• 30:09
  And that's, that's a really a good thing to pick up on because
• 30:13
  obviously there's, there's been so many NFL documentaries
• 30:17
  recently on Netflix, whatever. There's been loads.
• 30:19
  And you actually see the family side of life where it's like
• 30:24
  we've literally lived in this place for 5-6 years, 5-6
• 30:29
  seasons. This is where my life is, and
• 30:32
  then I get traded and now I have to move my whole family,
• 30:35
  schools, everything all the way across the other side of it
• 30:37
  without even like a moment's notice.
• 30:39
  It's like you've been traded, you're done.
• 30:41
  I think that's one. Is that that must be
• 30:43
  quarterbacks. Is that what it's called?
• 30:44
  So they do that as well. So there's there's more
• 30:46
  recently, there's a bunch more series which are done more like
• 30:49
  Netflix where they've made quarterbacks, which follows 3
• 30:51
  quarterbacks. And this is the the bigger
• 30:53
  change as well. Since media has recognized this,
• 30:55
  this does so well, they now follow teams through the entire
• 30:57
  season. So for quarterbacks, that is 1
• 31:00
  where they're following three quarterbacks.
• 31:02
  I would say the best quarterbacks were there at very
• 31:04
  different levels through their season and basically just see
• 31:07
  what happens as. Well, I can't remember.
• 31:09
  He he moved to the Falcons from Minnesota.
• 31:12
  Yeah, why is it this always happens?
• 31:16
  Always by then it's also Joe Burrows and.
• 31:20
  Well, I'll have Patmore Holmes in the first season.
• 31:22
  I I didn't watch the first season.
• 31:23
  I'm thinking the second season, but.
• 31:25
  So yeah, second season and the guy whose name, wow, this is so
• 31:29
  bad because I had it at the beginning of the conversation.
• 31:31
  I was going to fight me Cousins. So he was at Minnesota.
• 31:34
  He was in the first season and he was also in the second
• 31:37
  season. This is complete side note, ADHD
• 31:39
  on full flow. They tried to go after a few
• 31:42
  different quarterbacks and although like said, no.
• 31:45
  And so Kirk was like, I'll do it again.
• 31:48
  But unfortunately he was probably the least interesting
• 31:50
  because he's he's the most white guy I've ever seen.
• 31:54
  Like lives for grilling on his barbecue and not having a clue
• 31:59
  about fashion sense or anything. Like, yeah, super V, he is the
• 32:04
  1950s golden era quarterback. He's not still living.
• 32:08
  Yeah, he's in the wrong sense, but.
• 32:11
  Like the other thing that Hard Knocks did was it was the first
• 32:14
  time that it would get you to buy in on stories of people that
• 32:18
  were effectively irrelevant. Like the beautiful thing about
• 32:22
  the preseason for the NFL is that all the games are
• 32:26
  completely pointless on the face of it because usually all the
• 32:29
  bad teams win all the all their games and they go into the
• 32:31
  season, they get rinsed. You're a bit like what's going
• 32:33
  on here. But what you actually see is 90%
• 32:36
  of the time in some of those games, the players are not the
• 32:40
  well known players. They are players trying to make
• 32:42
  the team because there is a 53 man roster.
• 32:44
  So that's the squad size. But at the beginning of training
• 32:47
  camp, they can have like 90 people.
• 32:49
  And so they're really trying to cut that down.
• 32:51
  And the only way you get to do that as a player is to showcase
• 32:53
  your talent. And it's really tough because
• 32:55
  sometimes you're going to be thrown into the game in a really
• 32:57
  unideal situation. You've got to make something
• 32:59
  happen. If you don't, you're cut.
• 33:01
  Like you just do not get the cut.
• 33:02
  You're done. Again, teams will try and trade
• 33:04
  you because then they get something back for you.
• 33:06
  And yeah, you're you're basically last chance.
• 33:10
  And we've spoken this about this before because Daio, who was the
• 33:13
  first ever guest on this podcast, was on the practice
• 33:17
  squad for a while. But you, you try and if you're
• 33:19
  good enough to make the team, you make the team.
• 33:22
  If you're not good enough, you have a second chance in that you
• 33:24
  can be put on their practice squad where you train with the
• 33:26
  team, but you never travel or play in games unless you're
• 33:28
  called up for like is people fighting tooth and nail for
• 33:31
  that? Because if they're out of the
• 33:33
  NFL, the chance of getting back in is like 0.
• 33:36
  Yeah. I think it's the average NFL
• 33:40
  players career last less than one year.
• 33:42
  Yeah. So when you look at the players.
• 33:43
  There's just so much new young talent coming through each year
• 33:47
  through this draft as well. It's just like, so competitive.
• 33:49
  And then one of the documentary kind of things that was on
• 33:53
  YouTube originally that you mentioned was someone decided it
• 33:57
  was a great idea to do Quarterback Under the Lights,
• 33:59
  which was actually looking at youth American in high school,
• 34:02
  in high school. And it followed 3 quarterbacks
• 34:05
  who were essentially trying to make it into their dream
• 34:07
  college. This truly, I think is the
• 34:09
  greatest, I mean in in all the wrong ways that really, but the
• 34:13
  greatest American football documentary series that I've
• 34:17
  ever seen. I think you might still be able
• 34:20
  to find on YouTube, but it was on Netflix.
• 34:23
  Because they did the second season, but the first, the first
• 34:26
  season where you mentioned from from who actually went into the
• 34:30
  NFL and then had a terrible time in.
• 34:32
  The NFL, but he's he's he's still on like the Bills or
• 34:34
  something. No, no, no, he's moved now to
• 34:37
  the Steelers. He's he's he's way back.
• 34:39
  He never plays, but he's. No, no, no, no.
• 34:41
  I really have some recent update.
• 34:43
  Oh, really? Yeah, On on on memes IG.
• 34:46
  Oh, no. His LinkedIn has been updated.
• 34:48
  He's now an insurance broker. So yeah, went down there, he had
• 34:52
  some controversial. Stuff like how incredible he was
• 34:55
  in terms of ranking. I think he must have been the
• 34:58
  year before Trevor Lawrence or something like that.
• 35:01
  That year. I know Trevor Lawrence was never
• 35:02
  on that show. I, I remember, I think it's the
• 35:06
  season after with Spencer Rattler.
• 35:08
  And they have Justin Fields as well.
• 35:10
  Justin Fields as well, who's like incredible, but he's what's
• 35:13
  he done in the NFL. Yeah, he's not Well, we'll see
• 35:16
  why he does this season. But the, the thing that was
• 35:18
  really cool about that was you're, you're getting the
• 35:20
  inside look at high school where the difference between like the
• 35:24
  NFL when it's your job, a lot of these guys have families that
• 35:27
  they're providing for high school is so ego driven.
• 35:30
  Like you've got Tate Martel was in the first season who honestly
• 35:34
  was like, you love to hate him, but he was also so talented.
• 35:37
  But the tough thing was that physically, he realistically
• 35:43
  knew and everyone watching knew that because he was quite sure
• 35:46
  he wasn't really ever going to make it to the next level.
• 35:47
  He wanted to not believe that. And so he was chauvinistic.
• 35:51
  All of this and what ended up happening in his college career
• 35:54
  was it was the IT was the biggest crash out and issue of
• 35:57
  his own life. But watching him in that series
• 36:00
  was so it was somewhat relatable because I was thinking at the
• 36:03
  time playing the sport back then as well.
• 36:05
  I was like, God, I probably would be like this if I was, you
• 36:10
  know, 17 this athletic at school and everyone seemed to love me.
• 36:14
  How would you not have the? Thing that baffles me with the
• 36:19
  American sports system, and I don't know if I've got my head
• 36:22
  around it, if I love it or hate it, but as a kid playing
• 36:27
  football in that situation, you're literally just given a
• 36:29
  number. You're like, hey, Tate, you're
• 36:31
  the best in the country. You're the state, you're the
• 36:35
  best in the country. Do you know what that means?
• 36:37
  You're going to be the like the big boy at college and then
• 36:42
  you're going to go to the NFL. You're going to be the best,
• 36:43
  you're going to be the most famous person.
• 36:45
  You are high school games. You're going to be televised
• 36:47
  every week. Literally.
• 36:48
  You you can nationwide. Friday night you turn.
• 36:50
  It is. So is that how it works?
• 36:52
  Friday night is high school, Saturday is college, and then
• 36:56
  Sunday is the NFL. So like.
• 36:57
  When the weekend come, Well actually, so it's mad when the
• 37:01
  NFL season's are full swing. Podcast.
• 37:03
  Yeah, I know we'll move on after this, but when the American
• 37:06
  season's in full swing, you've got Thursday Night Football, one
• 37:09
  NFL game, you've then got high school on Friday nights.
• 37:12
  So you go to go down to your local high school, you support
• 37:14
  your family, whatever. Saturday night you've got your
• 37:16
  college games, Sunday you've got your mainstream NFL games.
• 37:19
  And then Monday you've got Monday Night Football with one
• 37:22
  or two games on a Monday from the NFL.
• 37:24
  And then you have Tuesday and Wednesday off and then you're
• 37:27
  back again. And it's just, but they love it.
• 37:30
  They love it. And that's why that stuff does
• 37:31
  so well. But then if we look at the
• 37:34
  change of hands in ownership of Formula One, all of a sudden
• 37:40
  drive to survive rocks up and they've basically taken what
• 37:44
  Hard Knocks and all or nothing with American football with
• 37:48
  sorry with Amazon did and then brought the same idea to Formula
• 37:53
  One. And if I'm completely honest, as
• 37:55
  a as a kid that used to love F1 and stopped watching it when it
• 37:58
  went to sky save, yeah, it saved Formula One.
• 38:03
  Formula One, I think, was dying in the water quite sadly,
• 38:06
  because if anything, the engineering was getting better
• 38:08
  and the cars were getting faster and the drivers were getting
• 38:09
  better, but there was just no. Coverage of it.
• 38:11
  That's so true, isn't it? And I remember pestering my dad
• 38:13
  to be like, why aren't we getting Sky?
• 38:14
  He's like, I'm not paying for it.
• 38:16
  Yeah. And I was like, well, we, that
• 38:18
  used to be our thing. We used to always watch the F1.
• 38:19
  Now how are we going to watch it?
• 38:20
  He's like, we're just not. And I, I lived for it.
• 38:24
  Yeah, I absolutely lived for it. I was the biggest Lewis Hamilton
• 38:26
  fan going. And then I just stopped watching
• 38:29
  it. Yeah.
• 38:29
  And then all of a sudden and I I still wasn't watching it.
• 38:31
  The drive survivor came along and I was like, oh, I can
• 38:33
  actually see what happened last season.
• 38:34
  Sure. And not only that, but you see
• 38:37
  again the. Pro quality scenes and and the.
• 38:39
  Drivers going how much they actually hate each other.
• 38:42
  My dad would always be like, oh, they actually hate each other.
• 38:44
  And I was like, they can't, they're team mates.
• 38:45
  Like what are you talking? About but that's that, that's
• 38:47
  like the beauty of like old school F1 where you have like
• 38:49
  Schumacher running down the pit wall to like hit David Coulthard
• 38:53
  because they've crashed. Whatever.
• 38:54
  It's just like, that's like the glory days.
• 38:57
  But yeah, Drive to Survive has like really made it popular in
• 39:00
  mainstream and more people now understand the sport a little
• 39:03
  bit better and the dynamics within the teams.
• 39:05
  And as a result, yeah, F1 is literally like everyone watches
• 39:09
  F1. Everyone loves it.
• 39:10
  I'm not going to plaster stereotypes of what men and
• 39:12
  women should be interested in or why they might have different
• 39:15
  interests generally, but what I have definitely noticed is the
• 39:18
  impact of Drive to Survive, his support, way more female
• 39:21
  engagement with the sport because I think it hits
• 39:25
  different things for for guys, maybe we're more simple, we can
• 39:29
  watch things go round in loops endlessly and just being
• 39:33
  satisfied by that. But having a bit more context of
• 39:35
  drama and what the meaning is and a bit more of behind the
• 39:38
  scenes brings in a totally different brow.
• 39:40
  Personality in the in the, yeah, in the actual drivers like you,
• 39:43
  you understand it's more than just a helmet and there's,
• 39:46
  there's actual personalities behind it, which is the really
• 39:49
  cool thing. And also the next level with the
• 39:52
  team principles where it's just like often you, they sat on the
• 39:56
  pit wall and they're like, do you have a personality?
• 39:58
  But actually there's so much behind going on in there.
• 40:01
  So it's been cool to even from someone who watched and followed
• 40:05
  Formula One for years before Drive Survive, actually getting
• 40:09
  the opportunity to see more of the behind the scenes stuff.
• 40:12
  And as further evidence of how this can grab a completely
• 40:16
  different crowd, I have never really had an interest in the
• 40:20
  Tour de France. Right When I was growing up, my
• 40:23
  uncle, well, my cousin, aunt and uncle moved to France and they
• 40:28
  would watch it and I was like, this must be a thing because you
• 40:30
  live in France and he's like, no, no, it's incredible.
• 40:33
  And I was like, no, he isn't. This is so boring.
• 40:36
  You're literally watching them ride along Australia.
• 40:38
  It's not like they're doing laps.
• 40:39
  There's no pit stops, nothing. There are so many cyclists as
• 40:43
  well, like who? How do you know who's who?
• 40:45
  How can you say 1's winning when they're all cycled for however
• 40:48
  many days? And then Tour de France
• 40:50
  Unchained came out, which not a spoiler alert, but depressingly,
• 40:55
  and I told you this, they've cancelled.
• 40:57
  It's not happening anymore. So the the two or three seasons
• 41:00
  that are available on Netflix, watch them while you can,
• 41:02
  because apparently there's no more coming.
• 41:03
  Changed your opinion on cycling? Like I now understand the
• 41:07
  tactics behind it. I now understand the politics.
• 41:09
  I'm super interested in it. Would I know who Pogachar is?
• 41:12
  Probably. Would I know him like I know him
• 41:15
  now and how much of A like a level ahead of everyone else he
• 41:17
  is? Absolutely not.
• 41:19
  And so that's become really interesting.
• 41:20
  And it's I've then started using these forms of sort of movies or
• 41:25
  documentaries to reignite former passions that I used to have
• 41:30
  with other sports. And I played a bit of tennis
• 41:32
  when I was growing up. Break Point on Netflix is pretty
• 41:34
  good. Full swing.
• 41:36
  I enjoyed that. I'm not so bought in on those.
• 41:39
  I don't know if they're just done slightly differently.
• 41:41
  I wasn't so bought. In the the break point for me, I
• 41:43
  never managed to get into it, but full swing love it like I've
• 41:48
  I think that's brilliant. I think it's like the same level
• 41:51
  really is drive to survive. But I guess it's like different
• 41:55
  like if you're a golfer and if you're into golf, then I think
• 41:58
  it's great. But there's there's so many now
• 42:00
  you mention it like there's so many that crop up and we kind of
• 42:04
  brushed over all or nothing, but all or nothing was.
• 42:06
  They've done the next step, they've done rugby, they've done
• 42:10
  football as we would normally call it football.
• 42:12
  Because they followed I think Tottenham, Arsenal, I think they
• 42:16
  did Man City. Did Man City?
• 42:17
  Yeah, and they're all amazing, and it's something you kind of
• 42:20
  touched on. There's so many people in the
• 42:22
  organizations that just don't get enough credit.
• 42:25
  It's just like the random, I love that.
• 42:28
  Or like there's, there's just some random person who you never
• 42:32
  know otherwise and you get to know all of the people and all
• 42:35
  the relationships that they have with the players and in the team
• 42:38
  and and the fans. It's like it's really clever.
• 42:40
  There's there's, I'm not going all the way back to it, but
• 42:43
  there is one particular season of Hard Knocks where they follow
• 42:46
  the Cleveland Browns and new coaches come in and it's like,
• 42:48
  I'm making it a thing where on the Cleveland Browns helmet they
• 42:51
  have a stripe that goes down the middle.
• 42:52
  He's like, I want players to earn their stripe.
• 42:56
  And it then cuts to the kick guy who's got to take all the
• 42:59
  stripes off the helmets and he's literally having a horror.
• 43:01
  And then it's announced that they're all getting their
• 43:03
  stripes. And he's like, oh.
• 43:04
  What are you doing the stripes? Back on the helmet and you don't
• 43:07
  really realize like someone has to do that.
• 43:09
  Yeah, yeah. It's not just a machine that put
• 43:11
  his helmets, 53 helmets. And then it's the same when I'm
• 43:14
  looking at the Tour de France, I'm like, oh, he's got a
• 43:16
  mechanical like a bike. A guy pulls over which got 4
• 43:19
  bikes and then he puts a bike down.
• 43:21
  The cyclist starts cycling and then immediately throws the bike
• 43:23
  on the side of the road and they're like, oh, he's been,
• 43:25
  he's given him the wrong. It's like how so many bodies
• 43:28
  pick. This year in the Tour that it
• 43:32
  kind of went viral, there's always like a neutral mechanic
• 43:35
  from Shimano who's sure like a title sponsor for the Tour de
• 43:39
  France and they wear blue and they just hover around on a bike
• 43:42
  around the lead pack. Sometimes the team cars can't
• 43:45
  get between the peloton and the lead pack and it was kind of a a
• 43:49
  bit of a ropey time. The people were attacking.
• 43:52
  Pogacha hadn't really got a strong foothold in the race yet,
• 43:56
  but he looks he looked the strongest and one point he just
• 44:00
  like I think he was behind Vinegar or someone, but he lost
• 44:05
  his wheel slid across the road hot back up and his bike was
• 44:09
  completely screwed. This neutral mechanic jumps off
• 44:13
  the motorbike, runs across the road, gets the chain back on the
• 44:16
  bike in lightning speed, pops him back on and throws him back.
• 44:18
  It's just like it was like F1 standard pit shop and it it just
• 44:23
  went viral because it was so smooth.
• 44:25
  But this guy like knee slid across the road to save Fugatch
• 44:28
  and it basically saved his stage that day.
• 44:31
  But that was really cool. But yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm trying
• 44:33
  to think of of other documentaries that we'll see,
• 44:35
  which is. What I did because because we
• 44:37
  can, we will, you know, keep going.
• 44:40
  But and and what I would be really interested for those of
• 44:42
  you that are listening, let me know what you think are your
• 44:46
  favorite documentaries or let Charles know as well right into
• 44:48
  the podcast what your favorite documentaries are.
• 44:50
  Even if you think they're rogue and we might not have heard, If
• 44:53
  anything else, even better because I'd love to go away and
• 44:55
  watch them then bring them back. And talk about them.
• 44:57
  There's so many that I, I already know that we just
• 44:59
  haven't haven't had a chance to talk about, but we would talk
• 45:01
  for hours. But what I find really
• 45:03
  interesting is the lag between mainstream television and now
• 45:07
  what is like streaming sites and Netflix and YouTube, this free
• 45:13
  platform where I mean, you look at if we go completely rogue.
• 45:17
  An example I was using the other day with someone is as I get
• 45:20
  into editing videos, I then go away and I watch someone like
• 45:23
  Cal Freezy, who has transformed from being a FIFA gamer to being
• 45:28
  a food YouTube. And I'm watching all of his
• 45:30
  animations and I'm like, hold on a minute.
• 45:33
  He has a floating United Kingdom with a root and an arrow going
• 45:36
  over. And I'm like this 10 years ago,
• 45:39
  even five years ago would have been like, how is he doing all
• 45:41
  of this? And it's obviously not him, but
• 45:43
  like the editing level is crazy. So then it's no surprise that in
• 45:48
  the same way that has happened where you go from like
• 45:50
  television programs, which to have crazy animations or
• 45:52
  whatever to, to that just being on YouTube as a standard video.
• 45:55
  You've got the same in these like sports documentaries where
• 45:58
  brands and athletes are documenting their lives and
• 46:01
  their training in a way that's so accessible for us to watch
• 46:04
  now. And it's so easy to buy into and
• 46:06
  some of the brands that are doing it at best, not only that
• 46:09
  video that you we've already spoken about, but obviously one
• 46:13
  of the famous ones for inspiration at the moment with
• 46:15
  how cinematic it all is. BPM and in particular their
• 46:19
  speed project video where they race from California to Las
• 46:23
  Vegas through the night. That video, I don't know how
• 46:25
  many views it's on, is one hour 15 of pure brilliance.
• 46:29
  Their content team is incredible.
• 46:31
  It's it's it really sets the standard and like it it.
• 46:37
  I think Nick actually, like a couple of days ago on a post on
• 46:41
  his Instagram, gave a shout out or he was talking about it on
• 46:44
  his podcast. He gave a shout out to.
• 46:46
  I think there's three guys who do his main content.
• 46:48
  And I don't know, it's a machine.
• 46:50
  Like BPM is a machine. I don't know if there's like a
• 46:52
  main team that does all of the BPM content.
• 46:55
  And then there's his personal squad that does his own YouTube
• 46:57
  because they're pumping out Nick Bear videos, They're doing BPM
• 47:01
  videos. And then they've got all of
• 47:03
  their athletes, people like Lucy Davies and whoever else is
• 47:07
  sponsored by BPN, who are all getting their own content.
• 47:09
  Like, it's next level. Yeah.
• 47:11
  And like, I watched that as if I was watching a Netflix show.
• 47:15
  You just go on YouTube and like type it in and then you just sat
• 47:17
  back on the sofa and like this could easily be on Netflix.
• 47:20
  So we know at the time of recording this that tomorrow
• 47:23
  they're releasing their backyard ultra video from earlier on in
• 47:25
  the year, which is already broke the Internet when they were just
• 47:28
  posting the stuff on their story and, and and general social
• 47:31
  media posts. So now they're putting this
• 47:33
  documentary out there and like. Isn't that must have that's like
• 47:36
  kick started this like like phase of people being fanatical
• 47:41
  about ultra running? Yeah, 100% it has.
• 47:43
  And like they seem to have done that quite a lot recently with a
• 47:46
  bunch of different things. They've really seemed to have
• 47:48
  timed it right, which is really smart.
• 47:49
  But maybe it's actually as a result of the production they've
• 47:52
  got. But I know for a fact that
• 47:56
  tomorrow, tomorrow evening, I'm going to be sat there.
• 48:00
  And that is, I've planned my day around it.
• 48:02
  Yeah. And it's on a free streaming
• 48:04
  site. I'm going to sit there.
• 48:05
  I'm going to watch this, possibly with a bag of popcorn.
• 48:07
  Yeah. And I haven't thought about
• 48:09
  anything really like that for such a long time when it would
• 48:11
  be like, I know that. I mean, this is a really bad
• 48:14
  example, but like, planet Earth, when that came out, was such a
• 48:17
  big thing. Yeah.
• 48:18
  And the first episode was coming out.
• 48:20
  Last time I watched it was like that was at uni.
• 48:23
  Me and my mates, we'd go get some bags of popcorn, sit and
• 48:26
  watch this thing. But if it was like the big
• 48:28
  finale of a season or like a big thing you're expecting to watch,
• 48:31
  like you do that and this is on you.
• 48:33
  Like a sporting final or something.
• 48:35
  Like I'm so already bought into because I know that it got down
• 48:39
  to these last two guys. We're going head to head and I
• 48:42
  know I've seen. That's the thing, you already
• 48:43
  know the outcome and. I just want to see what
• 48:45
  happened. Yeah.
• 48:46
  Like, how did it happen? Because it was only going.
• 48:48
  You got loads of content from it, but it was still quite
• 48:51
  elusive. And lots of stuff happened.
• 48:52
  And there was a big rainstorm. I felt like I was on the
• 48:55
  outside. Yeah, looking in.
• 48:56
  And I'm sorry to be brought on to the inside.
• 48:58
  Yeah, yeah. And he was so jealous.
• 49:00
  Who didn't get the invite A. 100 I'm not even bold enough to put
• 49:04
  my name in the hat for it because I'm actually quite
• 49:05
  scared that I'd have to turn up and give myself Rabdo.
• 49:09
  Run 200 miles to make 20 laps. But even but.
• 49:12
  You just, you just, you get sucked into that whole thing and
• 49:15
  you're like, I wish I was a part of the BPN crew.
• 49:18
  I wish I lived out in Texas. One day when BPN actually comes
• 49:21
  to the UK, mark my words, I won't do it.
• 49:26
  Now we we need to move on to another key element of our
• 49:29
  podcast, which is obviously the grind my gears weirdly after
• 49:33
  what we've been talking about. I feel so positive, I know.
• 49:36
  And so I'm going to have to really lower my tone.
• 49:39
  We actually, let's start this off, let's start the gears
• 49:42
  turning because we had someone give us one which is going to
• 49:46
  upset both of us. All right.
• 49:47
  So I'm a few days ago I ran in SO.
• 49:50
  You're going to tell me who this is not?
• 49:51
  Publicly. But I you don't know them, OK.
• 49:54
  But a few days ago I ran in. Someone called Hannah.
• 49:57
  She made comments. She actually got shouted out.
• 49:59
  Yeah, yeah. Well, I'm not going to say her
• 50:01
  surname, that's a bit rude. But.
• 50:04
  Hannah decided to make a comment about the fact that summer was
• 50:07
  over. OK, because we've basically gone
• 50:09
  from like really nice weather to arranged.
• 50:10
  She's like, Oh well that just means we're one step close to
• 50:13
  all the men that think it's OK to wear shorts in sub zero
• 50:16
  conditions. And I was like, Hannah, Hannah,
• 50:20
  you are unfortunately preaching to the damn choir.
• 50:24
  That is me. Really grind my gears, I could
• 50:26
  see it. Like that was that was her grind
• 50:28
  my gears and grind my gears that people have an issue with that
• 50:31
  Concern yourself. If you're cold, put something
• 50:34
  warm on. But for me, I'd be interested in
• 50:36
  what you think of this. For me as it gets colder I go
• 50:39
  from T-shirt and shorts to hoodie.
• 50:45
  Still T-shirt, but hoodie over the top is still shorts.
• 50:47
  Same. Then it's long sleeve top and
• 50:50
  shorts before I even think about putting anything over my butt.
• 50:53
  Lower half, yeah. I go gilet hoodie.
• 50:57
  Never a finance bro though so that's not an ick.
• 51:01
  No, the Gillette's cool. Gillette, do you know what if
• 51:03
  that's going to be? Someone's growing my gear.
• 51:05
  Next week it's 100. Percent 100% Finance no your.
• 51:08
  Legs never get cold, man. You don't need and maybe this is
• 51:11
  also a guy thing because we typically have hairier legs.
• 51:14
  Maybe, maybe, but I very very rarely feel the need to wrap up
• 51:20
  although. I'm usually wearing trousers out
• 51:23
  of like I'm going somewhere where shorts are not socially
• 51:26
  acceptable. I've argued that my body's
• 51:28
  thermostat has been broken since I did live in the Alps for six
• 51:32
  months. Like, you're running in and out
• 51:34
  of the hotel pretty hot. So you're in shorts and AT
• 51:37
  shirt, and then you realize you've been having conversation
• 51:39
  outside for 15 minutes. No, it's cold.
• 51:41
  Well, no, you're not. But you're like, probably go
• 51:43
  inside. Don't know if I can feel or
• 51:44
  whatever. But no, I will be.
• 51:47
  Wearing I will be wearing. And you know what?
• 51:49
  It saved me so much in investing in jeans and stuff like that in
• 51:52
  the winter. Like I wear jeans.
• 51:54
  Jeans is supposed to be smart. Casual jeans is smart for me.
• 51:57
  Oh, super smart. Super super.
• 51:58
  Smart. It's a jeans event.
• 51:59
  You're fortunate. People would be shocked at how
• 52:02
  infrequently I wear trousers or jeans.
• 52:04
  Yeah, yeah. It's just it actually feels.
• 52:06
  Weird. Something that's not sportswear.
• 52:08
  Feels weird on my knees. Yeah, I know.
• 52:09
  I'm yeah, I'm into shorts. And you know what's so weird?
• 52:11
  Like your? Shorts as well is literally like
• 52:15
  a year and a bit ago I wore a suit every day to work.
• 52:17
  Yeah, that's why I just like had to imagine.
• 52:19
  No, that was crazy. So bad how how the turntables
• 52:22
  turn tables, right? I hope that's put some fire to
• 52:26
  the conversation. Well, everyone's entitled to
• 52:28
  their opinion. Hannah's entitled to her
• 52:29
  opinion. We listen and we jar.
• 52:31
  We listen and we go. Got that one wrong?
• 52:34
  Yeah, I know. Go on then, are you with your
• 52:36
  gram again? My my first one is is not
• 52:38
  fitness related and it's actually to do with social media
• 52:42
  and it's that. Grinds my gears.
• 52:45
  Is it the fact that 64% of people that watch this on
• 52:50
  YouTube aren't subscribed? There's your cue and also you
• 52:55
  can now subscribe on Spotify. You can leave a rating.
• 52:58
  We've got 14 five star ratings. Don't be the 15th person that
• 53:00
  leaves as one isn't five star. Hannah's going to be that he is
• 53:03
  going. Off there right now.
• 53:04
  But if you want to leave a review, do so at Mindsets
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• 53:11
  and at Mindset Hunterscore podcast.
• 53:13
  There you go, beautiful. Anyway, back to the Sam's.
• 53:16
  It's so trivial when people upload stories without music, it
• 53:21
  just feels like, you know, it's naked, it's missing something.
• 53:24
  Can I go one further please? The people that upload or repost
• 53:30
  someone's story and don't edit the background.
• 53:34
  Me and it's like some random colour.
• 53:36
  It's like it's basic, like Instagram does a really good
• 53:39
  choice colour matching, but like all you have to do is press the
• 53:42
  the draw thing and choose a colour, hold it down and then
• 53:46
  it's done. Yeah, I bet that's a hack that
• 53:48
  people don't even know. You are king of Instagram story
• 53:51
  hacks. Actually you showed me about the
• 53:52
  sliding colour bar changing maybe.
• 53:55
  Maybe there's something in that. Yeah, that I don't.
• 53:59
  It's maybe because when I I like an elaborate story and all of my
• 54:04
  stories, like maybe the insight into my life.
• 54:06
  Now when you go on to my stories, when there's music
• 54:09
  there, typically it's related to something.
• 54:11
  I have just randomly chosen music.
• 54:13
  It's it's very infrequently, you know, if it's like a someone's
• 54:18
  posted a photo of their dog and they put like, who let the dogs
• 54:21
  out? And it's never like, it's not
• 54:23
  like that. Yeah.
• 54:23
  But it's like the music has relevance to the person in it or
• 54:27
  the place in it or the time that I took the photo or whatever.
• 54:29
  It's whatever. It's my favorite music.
• 54:31
  So there's always hidden meaning.
• 54:33
  There's it's never a coincidence.
• 54:35
  Sunset. Zach Bryant something.
• 54:38
  In the Origin. So then when I see a story
• 54:41
  without any music, I'm like, yeah, but you're missing like
• 54:44
  50% of the beauty of yeah yeah, the content.
• 54:46
  Yeah, that's like easy low hanging fruit.
• 54:48
  If I'm on the, if I'm on the tube, for example, and I have to
• 54:51
  listen to this horrible screaming sounds while I'm
• 54:53
  looking at your lovely picture of your dog, I'm not
• 54:55
  appreciating. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 54:56
  Put a nice song on my Airpods. So, so that's now that's got the
• 54:59
  gear saying, you know when someone does a carousel post,
• 55:02
  but they've put together photos with different aspect ratio.
• 55:06
  So they've got like a 916 and then like a, what's the other
• 55:10
  way around, 69, Yeah. And then like a 4-5 and they
• 55:14
  just, they don't match. Some people's Instagram doesn't
• 55:17
  let mine doesn't let me do that. Oh, really?
• 55:18
  Yeah. Yeah, I don't know.
• 55:19
  I do. That so like that's good and
• 55:21
  bad, yeah. But yeah, it's just people need
• 55:25
  to take their social media all series.
• 55:27
  You're not allowed. You're not allowed to do it.
• 55:30
  And and also like using background on text on stories or
• 55:33
  even on like. There's so many like do's and
• 55:36
  don'ts for the unsaid. If if you listen to this and
• 55:40
  you're like this, like you guys care too much, No, you don't
• 55:43
  care enough. Like it's it it.
• 55:45
  They've got a lot of it. Doesn't annoy you, but all of
• 55:47
  your followers hate you for. It they've got a lot of gifts
• 55:50
  going on on their stories of it. And don't get me wrong, I've
• 55:52
  done a couple gifts. But there's a time there's a.
• 55:54
  Time and a place. It's for comedic value.
• 55:56
  Yeah, definitely time and a place.
• 55:58
  Yeah, no, that's a really good one.
• 55:59
  I like that. Yeah, mine.
• 56:01
  Etiquette on social media in general.
• 56:03
  There needs to be a course basic Instagram should have just a
• 56:06
  basic thing on their page. You go to Instagram and you
• 56:08
  learn. This is how to Instagram for.
• 56:10
  PDF. Mine this week comes from.
• 56:15
  He hasn't told me what this is, but he's he's really set it up
• 56:17
  so. He's really riled me up this
• 56:19
  week. I'm hoping it's really trivial.
• 56:21
  I have been trading back and forth with someone essentially
• 56:25
  what he's doing rounds, but in the fitness space doing rounds
• 56:27
  typically means coffees. And so this person has bought me
• 56:32
  quite a few coffees and I feel a bit indebted to them.
• 56:34
  And I was like, OK, today I'm going to make the effort.
• 56:37
  I'm going to go and get them a coffee.
• 56:41
  Now that actually double lucked out.
• 56:43
  And this sounds really cheap, but when I got there, I realized
• 56:46
  I had a loyalty reward of a free coffee.
• 56:48
  That's the best. So fortunately the place was
• 56:51
  nice enough to give me my coffee, which is slightly more
• 56:53
  expensive free. And then I bought the other one.
• 56:56
  So I bought that coffee. I took it to the person and when
• 56:58
  I brought it back, there was someone else at this particular
• 57:01
  location that was like, where's mine?
• 57:05
  And I was like, I don't know how to say this, but I didn't want
• 57:10
  to buy you one. I wanted to repay my debt to
• 57:13
  someone else. I didn't want to begin you being
• 57:15
  in debt to me because this person for contacts and I'm
• 57:17
  speaking in a certain way because I don't necessarily know
• 57:20
  if they'll hear this, but I don't want them to feel that
• 57:23
  attacked. Just a little bit.
• 57:26
  I don't see this person anymore our timing wise with when they
• 57:30
  work and when I work doesn't crossover anymore.
• 57:33
  Which means that I know full well I buy you coffee.
• 57:36
  I'm not getting that back ever. But I am too polite to say
• 57:41
  anything like that. So I was like, of course, sorry,
• 57:46
  what would you like? You went back.
• 57:48
  I went, I left the coffee shop. I'd come all the way back to
• 57:51
  this gym. I then went back to the coffee
• 57:53
  shop like a little mug and I. Wow.
• 57:56
  Took the order, it was a latte with a shot of vanilla. 7:00 in
• 58:06
  the morning. This person has requested I
• 58:07
  leave. Yeah, to go to the coffee shop
• 58:10
  I've just been to to get a latte.
• 58:12
  Sorry. An oat milk latte with vanilla
• 58:16
  decaf, £4.65. Well, if you were. 465.
• 58:25
  Ever think it's acceptable to spend £4.65 on a decaf coffee?
• 58:31
  Sort your fucking life out. You can't be having decaf and
• 58:35
  spending £4.65 on it decaf. Have a cup of water.
• 58:40
  What are you having it for? What's the grime idea?
• 58:43
  Is it the coffee? Is it the private?
• 58:45
  Is it the decaf? It's the flavour, It's the milk.
• 58:47
  All of it together is a number of gears that are grinding.
• 58:50
  Clearly. Yeah, because like the main
• 58:53
  thing for me is decaf coffee. Like if you want decaf coffee,
• 58:59
  then get a decaf coffee that's like cheap.
• 59:01
  Like you do not need to pay £4.60 for it to come out of a
• 59:04
  machine. Have oat milk that's overpriced
• 59:07
  from a barista anyway. Like just make it wherever you
• 59:10
  are. Like you do not need to be going
• 59:11
  to a barista for it. Then at 7:00 in the morning, why
• 59:15
  do you need a decaf coffee? You don't need one.
• 59:18
  You're saying you need. One set.
• 59:20
  Stop saying you need one. Oh, I can't stop my day without
• 59:23
  a coffee. I was completely on board with
• 59:24
  that conversation. I was like, fair enough, you
• 59:25
  need your no. And then you turn around and you
• 59:27
  go to me decaf. You don't need it.
• 59:31
  Nothing about that do you need. You're never getting your 465.
• 59:35
  If you need it for hydration purposes, have a cup of water
• 59:39
  water. Taste is nice.
• 59:41
  Add some squash, buy a shit coffee, I don't care.
• 59:46
  Do not pay £4.65 for. Decaf coffee, Well, coffee in
• 59:50
  London is extortionate anyway. It is the full pals that way.
• 59:53
  Yeah. I kind of like it though.
• 59:55
  I like the process of going and getting a like coffee.
• 59:58
  I know, I know, I know I'm being mugged off, but I.
• 1:00:01
  I. I'm addicted to it.
• 1:00:03
  At the beginning of this podcast, years ago when I
• 1:00:04
  started it, it was an avid coffee hater, really when
• 1:00:08
  travelling, tried to make coffee, didn't really like it.
• 1:00:10
  Still, as I came back into London I literally forced myself
• 1:00:12
  to like it and if I'm being completely honest, if it
• 1:00:14
  disappeared off the face of the earth tomorrow, probably
• 1:00:16
  wouldn't miss it. However, nothing matches up with
• 1:00:19
  going to a coffee shop. It's like a hug as an adult.
• 1:00:23
  Yeah, I get what you're saying, but it needs to be the coffee
• 1:00:27
  shop needs to be right, not a chain coffee shop.
• 1:00:30
  And I don't want to go down the the the the kind of the rabbit
• 1:00:33
  hole of being a coffee snob because I'm not a coffee snob.
• 1:00:36
  I. Completely agree.
• 1:00:37
  I'm not across the snob at all. I agree that it's. 4 lbs for my
• 1:00:41
  flat white. Come on I I need it to be right
• 1:00:44
  for me. Yeah.
• 1:00:45
  And what I will say is, as much as I agree that like trying to
• 1:00:49
  avoid chains is good, or at least big chains, however I do
• 1:00:53
  feel really dirty when I go to Gales because gales is really
• 1:00:56
  good. I hate gales.
• 1:00:58
  I hate girls. I.
• 1:01:00
  Love to hate gales. Hate girls is kind of good.
• 1:01:02
  I have so many problems with gales and my next next podcast,
• 1:01:06
  the Grind My Gears, is just going to be about gales.
• 1:01:08
  Don't tell them that because they won't come back.
• 1:01:11
  He's not going to say that guys come back next episode.
• 1:01:15
  But that's that's my grind, my gears.
• 1:01:16
  It's a multitude of gears that really got me wrong at that
• 1:01:20
  particular time in the morning. And yeah, yeah.
• 1:01:22
  Shame when you go. I don't feel like if Ioffer
• 1:01:27
  someone a coffee in my head, I'm not going, oh great, I'm going
• 1:01:30
  to get one back from this person.
• 1:01:31
  No, no, no, neither do I OK, normally it's just I was already
• 1:01:34
  indebted to this person because this person always goes and gets
• 1:01:37
  coffee and I very rarely see yes.
• 1:01:39
  I very rarely say yes. But on this particular morning,
• 1:01:42
  I had a very, very long weekend of actually no sleep.
• 1:01:45
  So when I thought that was like, I need a coffee, I know they're
• 1:01:47
  going to want one because they always get me one.
• 1:01:49
  Let me go and do the nice thing and just tell them I'm getting
• 1:01:52
  them a coffee. Was not expecting this other
• 1:01:54
  person to absolutely need a decaf at 7:00 in the morning.
• 1:01:58
  To start their day sabotage. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:02:01
  Have you? Have you got any others that you
• 1:02:03
  need to get off your chest? Not for now.
• 1:02:04
  Fantastic. In which case we can move on to
• 1:02:08
  what seems to be a new placeholder in the past.
• 1:02:11
  I'm kind of enjoying it, which is why we've done it.
• 1:02:12
  The food element that needs a better name, it needs a better
• 1:02:15
  name. So if there's any sponsors that
• 1:02:17
  want to come in and provide their name and the providing
• 1:02:21
  team, yeah, yeah, we'll talk to the marketing team, see who they
• 1:02:23
  know. But we we went to Sainsbury's
• 1:02:26
  today and we decided to see if we could put together the
• 1:02:29
  highest protein mail mail that we could for anybody that's
• 1:02:34
  interested. Which is most people, I'm sure.
• 1:02:36
  Which is. Absolutely.
• 1:02:37
  Most people. Where do you want to start?
• 1:02:40
  We've got to go main course, surely?
• 1:02:42
  Really, I'm just going to leave that to the end, All right,
• 1:02:43
  backwards. Perfect, let's do the drink.
• 1:02:45
  That was so wrong. OK.
• 1:02:47
  So we'll start with the drain. That's the dynamic the most.
• 1:02:50
  People would expect yes, so we have got a protein shake,
• 1:02:53
  chocolate protein shake, 25 grams protein.
• 1:02:56
  You fit, you fit or actually there's an umlaut on there.
• 1:03:00
  You fit, you fit a fit. So do you want to try this?
• 1:03:05
  Let's go. Because I know for a fact, and
• 1:03:08
  and some of you might not know, Charles absolutely loves Sheikh
• 1:03:11
  and Adda. At this point, it's a travesty
• 1:03:14
  that Sheikh and Adda don't sponsor him.
• 1:03:16
  But Sheikh and Adda have also brought out their protein
• 1:03:19
  version of their milkshake, so they have a oh.
• 1:03:21
  He's shaking his head. In fact, I'm not going to say
• 1:03:25
  that. OK, he's withdrawn his comment
• 1:03:27
  that he was going to say, but Sheikh and Adda did bring out a
• 1:03:30
  protein drink that we were drinking a lot of.
• 1:03:35
  How does EU fit? EU fit?
• 1:03:37
  Right. I'm comparing it to shake
• 1:03:38
  another sure, which is arguably one of the best chocolate milks
• 1:03:41
  you can buy, if not the best it's not even close to shake
• 1:03:45
  another chocolate milk my try, but it's it's what I would
• 1:03:50
  expect from any chocolate flavored protein drink that I
• 1:03:55
  buy in the supermarket. It's not great, I.
• 1:03:58
  Literally looked at the bottle and one of the words that's in
• 1:04:00
  bold is oat fiber and that. It's it tastes fiber like what's
• 1:04:07
  the word I'm looking for? It's just it's this doesn't have
• 1:04:11
  much substance. It's a new watery, isn't it?
• 1:04:13
  And do you know what this is? This is fine.
• 1:04:15
  When I see someone buy one of these after the gym, I
• 1:04:19
  immediately assume you're new. You're new here.
• 1:04:22
  You you have told yourself you need to have.
• 1:04:24
  You don't. You don't.
• 1:04:26
  Yeah. Especially.
• 1:04:26
  Yeah. No.
• 1:04:27
  Not good. Why did you shake your head
• 1:04:28
  about shake another? Because I don't like their
• 1:04:30
  protein. Really.
• 1:04:32
  Yeah, it's not a good thing. No, obviously not.
• 1:04:34
  And like chocolate milk, by the way, chocolate milk is a
• 1:04:36
  supplement. Yeah, is actually.
• 1:04:38
  Those work out, Yeah. Can't be beaten.
• 1:04:40
  Yeah, there's actually loads of studies about it.
• 1:04:41
  And same as squares. Bars.
• 1:04:43
  It's their studies about squares.
• 1:04:44
  People are trying to beat squares bars as a fuelling.
• 1:04:47
  Well, I think I saw that going around.
• 1:04:48
  Yeah, I'm struggling to open this.
• 1:04:50
  Do you mind opening this? Next is the snack.
• 1:04:53
  We were really worried for a while because we quickly figured
• 1:04:58
  out that the egg was the sort of the egg pot of two eggs was
• 1:05:03
  looking like it was going to be the best.
• 1:05:05
  But obviously they're de shelled.
• 1:05:06
  And Charles took one look and was like, I'm not eating that.
• 1:05:10
  And we were kind of at this juxtaposition where I either I
• 1:05:13
  was going to have to eat boiled eggs on camera or we were just
• 1:05:17
  going to pretend that we didn't find them.
• 1:05:18
  But fortunately, Charles found this protein yogurt, which is 18
• 1:05:23
  grams, 18 grams, 5050 casein way.
• 1:05:27
  Can you tell that it's 5050 casein way?
• 1:05:29
  I can tell it doesn't taste good.
• 1:05:31
  Really, Strawberry? Flavour OK, I hope I didn't like
• 1:05:38
  skew your judgement. Doesn't taste like yogurt.
• 1:05:42
  It's like it's actually not bad. It's like it's soapy.
• 1:05:45
  I wouldn't. But of course I'd eat it and I'd
• 1:05:47
  I'd drink that protein shake. But yeah, is it good?
• 1:05:49
  I don't know if I. Would drink the protein shake?
• 1:05:51
  Really. No, especially if it wasn't as
• 1:05:53
  cold as possible. Yeah, but would that it's just
• 1:05:57
  that's kind of like. But I would I would happily
• 1:05:59
  finish there, just that's OK. What are you doing this for?
• 1:06:02
  You're doing this for maximal protein intake.
• 1:06:04
  Yeah, In which case I would say that that's not bad.
• 1:06:06
  I'd say the drink for me for maximal protein intake, still
• 1:06:10
  not worth considering the fact that it's in a meal deal.
• 1:06:12
  I would consider getting a different drink and going and
• 1:06:14
  buying one that I like that's not in the meal deal.
• 1:06:16
  So what have you spent 395 on this?
• 1:06:19
  Something like that, yeah, 85395, yeah.
• 1:06:23
  We do the cost analysis breakdown.
• 1:06:24
  Yeah, we we got to do the. The main course.
• 1:06:27
  Here we go. So the main course I actually
• 1:06:30
  asked you on the way back to the meal deal section to do this.
• 1:06:33
  Do Sainsbury's do triple sandwiches?
• 1:06:36
  I was under the impression they didn't.
• 1:06:37
  I know Tesco do, but Sainsbury's have hit us with the classic.
• 1:06:42
  The Sainsbury's we went to, I'm sorry.
• 1:06:44
  It was about Sainsbury's. The selection was not good.
• 1:06:46
  Not not ideal, but the classic triple classic.
• 1:06:52
  Absolutely classic. I've never bought this before.
• 1:06:54
  I everyone should be thinking about what they think would be
• 1:06:58
  in a three sandwich classic. Three different sandwiches in
• 1:07:01
  the UK like. The most classic, The most.
• 1:07:03
  Classic chicken and bacon? Yeah, fair enough.
• 1:07:08
  I don't think that would be my classic.
• 1:07:09
  I'd say it's a classic. It is a.
• 1:07:11
  Classic. It is like OK fine.
• 1:07:14
  Ham and cheese. For sure, that's a classic.
• 1:07:16
  For sure, that's the most classic.
• 1:07:18
  I would then probably say based on the fact and don't ask me why
• 1:07:21
  I know this, I would say BLT. It's too close to the chicken
• 1:07:27
  and bacon. Yeah.
• 1:07:28
  But the reason I say that I would expect that to be in the
• 1:07:30
  classic triple is did you know that the BLT is the most sold
• 1:07:33
  sandwich in the UK? That doesn't surprise me.
• 1:07:36
  That doesn't surprise me either. You'd put it in the classic
• 1:07:38
  triple egg and crass Egg and crass makes up this last classic
• 1:07:44
  triple. Egg egg zic me out on a good
• 1:07:47
  day. So this is not this this is not
• 1:07:49
  looking good for me. I.
• 1:07:50
  Can genuinely say with all honesty I was not a bully in
• 1:07:52
  school. However there was a kid in our
• 1:07:54
  class who ate egg and Crest sandwiches and he was bullied by
• 1:07:58
  you. No, but I, I.
• 1:08:01
  Maybe This is why I don't. Put so much effort into stopping
• 1:08:03
  it as I maybe would have done if he'd had a normal sandwich.
• 1:08:07
  That's that's completely comedic.
• 1:08:09
  That's not true, but Egg and Crest is does not deserve to be
• 1:08:14
  in this box. Absolutely.
• 1:08:15
  Like what? Surely some maybe it just
• 1:08:18
  doesn't work with Tuna Tuna's more classic.
• 1:08:21
  Tuna's more classic. Tuna's too tough to put in.
• 1:08:24
  A Yeah, well, that's yeah. So is freaking mashed up egg I.
• 1:08:28
  Mean eggs actually fine. Like egg is fine?
• 1:08:31
  I don't know. Cress is nothing.
• 1:08:33
  Cress is a bit of a leaf. But put the two together.
• 1:08:35
  What the fuck are we doing here? Are we going to try them?
• 1:08:38
  You won't get a. I was going to rock paper
• 1:08:40
  scissors you to try the egg and grass.
• 1:08:42
  OK, let's do it. Again, that's the one of one
• 1:08:44
  you're going to rock, paper, scissors go.
• 1:08:45
  So you have to be on YouTube for this, Yeah.
• 1:08:47
  Because. We're not going to say who won.
• 1:08:49
  That person is just going to have to.
• 1:08:51
  Enjoy watching. Wait, so it's rock paper
• 1:08:53
  scissors? Shoot.
• 1:08:55
  OK, yeah. OK.
• 1:08:57
  On shoot you. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:08:58
  OK, Rock, paper, scissors. Shoot.
• 1:09:02
  Some I'll meet in the sun. Help yourself, Sir, don't.
• 1:09:07
  Have to eat all of it. You need to take a bite out of
• 1:09:11
  the middle. No corner bite middle.
• 1:09:13
  Yeah, in While Charles does this, I'm going to give you an
• 1:09:16
  interesting fact as we're rudely interrupted by Pod Dog, who's
• 1:09:19
  obviously decided that food is what he's interested in.
• 1:09:22
  Theo out, Sir. So that was that was the your
• 1:09:28
  reward for watching on YouTube. You get to see Theo it actually
• 1:09:32
  it doesn't look that bad. No, I don't think it will be
• 1:09:35
  that bad. Interestingly though, for those
• 1:09:37
  that were watching, Charles went scissors.
• 1:09:39
  I went rock. I was told in year 10 in a
• 1:09:42
  psychology thing that nearly everyone goes scissors and I
• 1:09:47
  don't know why, but people go scissors.
• 1:09:49
  I have, since that day, always gone rock.
• 1:09:52
  You're always, always gone rock and I have won far too many
• 1:09:57
  games for that. So just be chance.
• 1:09:58
  You shouldn't have given that away.
• 1:09:59
  I shouldn't have done, but if you're ever doing rock, paper,
• 1:10:01
  scissors for those that really need it, if your life's ever on
• 1:10:04
  the line, go rock people, go scissors first.
• 1:10:06
  I hate to admit it. Yeah.
• 1:10:08
  For what is it? Would you put that in your
• 1:10:10
  classic triple? No, no.
• 1:10:12
  Well, for those that are wondering, the protein content
• 1:10:15
  of the classic triple remembering the reason that
• 1:10:17
  we're actually here is per pack 33.4g of protein.
• 1:10:24
  Now for Sainsbury's, that is good.
• 1:10:26
  We spend some time looking through the sandwiches.
• 1:10:27
  I will say obviously again. Basically like 10 grams per
• 1:10:30
  little segment of sandwich. Yeah, half sandwich, which is,
• 1:10:32
  which is pretty good. There are higher alternatives in
• 1:10:35
  different supermarkets, I know for a fact, because again the
• 1:10:38
  triples that you can get in other supermarkets.
• 1:10:40
  And higher alternatives in Sainsbury's, just different
• 1:10:42
  Sainsbury's because that option, the options they had were, yeah.
• 1:10:45
  And I think it was just. Host lunch, surely?
• 1:10:48
  But we'll also add that we have gone to the basic option.
• 1:10:51
  We've not known for the extravagant meal deals where you
• 1:10:53
  spend like 5 or 6 lbs. No, we didn't give any to Pod
• 1:10:58
  Dog, who's now giving Charles the evil eyes and disappointment
• 1:11:01
  eyes. Anyway, we move on.
• 1:11:05
  If you guys have got better suggestions or you think you've
• 1:11:07
  hacked the perfect meal deal, then absolutely let us know what
• 1:11:10
  you think that looks like and we'll give it a try.
• 1:11:13
  We'll test it out, we'll rate your meal bill and we'll go from
• 1:11:15
  there. But the classic thing we always
• 1:11:18
  do at this point in the podcast is you do a game, it's my turn,
• 1:11:23
  and I'm concerned by how much you say you're looking forward
• 1:11:25
  to this game because that usually backfires massively for
• 1:11:27
  me. I can't claim this to be an
• 1:11:31
  original idea, I stole it off something I saw on on TikTok,
• 1:11:37
  but I'll put our own spin on it. OK, so I'm going to do my best
• 1:11:42
  to explain it. You may have even seen it before
• 1:11:44
  and we're just going to go and see how it see how it plays out.
• 1:11:47
  I guess so the currency we're going to use is dollars because
• 1:11:52
  dollars just sounds better and you have dollars any, any dollar
• 1:11:55
  doesn't mean. Any dollar bill?
• 1:11:56
  Cool. So I'm going to give you an
• 1:11:58
  allowance. Of. $12.00.
• 1:12:02
  To. Have you've seen this before?
• 1:12:04
  I I think I'm well, potentially It depends where this goes.
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  Right, there's four questions. OK, now each question has 5
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  answers. Right now the answers are
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  they're not right, they're not wrong, they're just creating a
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  situation and you want to get the best situation for you.
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  And it will make more sense when we start doing it.
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  Now you have to spend money on all of the questions, right?
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  Right. So you can't just use all of
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  your money. You need to spend some money on
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  the question in some capacity. Just the options get more or
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  less expensive. So we're just going to do it and
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  we're going to see what happens. But you've got $12.00 to spend.
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  $12.00 right? So if you're playing at home,
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  have a have a play along. If you don't like high rocks,
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  could be in trouble. Oh.
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  OK, good. So you're doing high rocks,
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  double s. Right.
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  Who's your partner going to be? OK, for $1.00, you can do it
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  with Amy. OK?
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  Now for anyone who doesn't know, Amy is Angus's lovely
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  girlfriend. Yep, for $2.00, which is a huge
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  bargain. You could do it with me.
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  OK for $3? I thought this was going to go,
• 1:13:17
  like, all the way into, like, Jennifer Lawrence.
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  Like, I thought it was just going to go into, like, loads of
• 1:13:25
  people, though, famous women that I could deal with.
• 1:13:28
  I'm glad you haven't done that to me.
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  OK, so you've always a trick then.
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  Yeah, $3 Nick Bear. OK.
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  Now we're getting to the business end for a whole $4.00.
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  You could do it with the current reigning High Rocks World
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  champion Tim Vienish for $4.00. So then to spend $5, you could
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  do it with Jakob Ingebritsen. So for anyone who doesn't know,
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  he's the current 5000m Olympic gold medalist.
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  I think he also got 1500 meter gold in Tokyo in 2020, among a
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  lot of other running medals. So he's pretty fast.
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  So those are your options. Put some money on the table.
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  What, what is the goal of this across the five questions?
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  To do the best across all of them that I can.
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  Whatever your metric of success is.
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  OK, good time. Our time.
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  Would when's this horror happening?
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  OK, let's ignore that. I was basically going to say I'm
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  trying to. I'm trying to.
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  You're trying to shake Jacob in Good Britain and seize.
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  Them. I'm trying to come up with an
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  excuse as to why I'm not going to pick Amy.
• 1:14:32
  It's too soon. Amy's not ready yet.
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  She would admit that I would actually pick you.
• 1:14:38
  Really. Yeah, I'd pick you over Nick
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  Bear. I think as a as a double S duo,
• 1:14:42
  we would do better than if I was partnered up with Nick Bear
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  tomorrow. And also, no offense to him, if
• 1:14:48
  he's watching this 105, your arguably actually slightly
• 1:14:53
  quicker than me, but like, not enough.
• 1:14:56
  Yeah, I I need, I need more from you.
• 1:14:57
  And I don't know how you race. Wow.
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  OK, so I've spent $2.00 two dollars.
• 1:15:02
  I've only I've got 10 in the bank.
• 1:15:03
  Solid start three questions. So where are we going to do
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  this? High rocks, so.
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  Again, I like this. For $1.00 you can do it in
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  Dublin. Notorious for a bad course?
• 1:15:15
  I don't know where I heard that, but it's notorious.
• 1:15:18
  Just notorious isn't it? All you need to know is
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  notoriously bad. I think it was the one where it
• 1:15:22
  had like 4 different lengths. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:15:25
  I don't know. For $2.00.
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  Berlin. Oh, OK.
• 1:15:29
  Fast course. Yeah, Rainy course.
• 1:15:32
  Very rainy course. #3 for $3. Copenhagen.
• 1:15:38
  And. The only reason I chose
• 1:15:40
  Copenhagen was once I heard Jake Williamson say it was a fast
• 1:15:43
  course, so I was like, Christ, it must be quick.
• 1:15:45
  But then I realized that every course is fast for Jake
• 1:15:48
  Williamson because he's rapid. So I don't know if that actually
• 1:15:51
  has any any sort. Of I know a few, I know a few
• 1:15:54
  other. People that said it's fast have.
• 1:15:56
  Have gone there and their times have been above their other
• 1:15:59
  times. OK, done.
• 1:16:00
  Cool, so there's Copenhagen for $3.00 so it might be a steal.
• 1:16:03
  But for $4.00 you could race at the London XL with the new
• 1:16:07
  layout with the 1K loop. That's been K that is big.
• 1:16:10
  Yeah, that's big for $4.00. Now $5 is a curveball, Mumbai.
• 1:16:18
  And you know why? You know why?
• 1:16:21
  Yeah. Yeah.
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  So for anyone who doesn't know, Mumbai is a less established
• 1:16:26
  location to race high rocks. So as a result, the times are on
• 1:16:29
  average slightly slower and as a result it's a little bit easier
• 1:16:33
  to qualify for World Champs Big. Time.
• 1:16:36
  Big time. I think we are spending another
• 1:16:41
  $2.00. We're going off to Berlin,
• 1:16:44
  partly because it is a fast course.
• 1:16:46
  We we've seen that and obviously it's fast because for everyone
• 1:16:50
  doesn't necessarily make qualifying world champs any
• 1:16:52
  easier. I'm going to bank on the fact
• 1:16:54
  that it might rain. It might not rain.
• 1:16:56
  However, there's two things this I want to run it because I like
• 1:17:00
  the idea of running in and out of planes.
• 1:17:02
  I mean, we're going back to the engineering.
• 1:17:04
  I like planes. But the other thing is, I hope
• 1:17:08
  it does rain while make other people slower.
• 1:17:12
  For one, yeah, I feel like we're hard nosed.
• 1:17:14
  We're going to run through that, sure, But also.
• 1:17:17
  The plucky Brits. You know what happened at the
• 1:17:18
  wobbles? Oh, you got rest.
• 1:17:20
  You get free rest. We can let as many people go as
• 1:17:23
  we want. We're going to come into that
• 1:17:24
  thing fresh as hell and we're going to do the quickest wobble
• 1:17:28
  split in the world and then we might qualify.
• 1:17:29
  There's probably a loophole where it's like they've actually
• 1:17:32
  just fixed the course since since last year.
• 1:17:34
  And then there's there's a roof over the wobbles.
• 1:17:36
  It's all inside. Yeah.
• 1:17:37
  All right. Cool.
• 1:17:38
  So you've only spent $4.00, four dollars.
• 1:17:40
  Wow, you're doing well. I can't wait to splash the cash
• 1:17:42
  now. What shoes will you be racing
• 1:17:45
  in? What shoes?
• 1:17:46
  For $1.00 you can race in flip flops.
• 1:17:49
  OK, for $2.00 you can wear your trusty Jordan 1 loads.
• 1:17:54
  Yeah. For $3, they're probably sat
• 1:17:56
  downstairs. You can race in your Saucony
• 1:17:58
  Hurricanes. They're boats frame on that
• 1:18:01
  doesn't. They're great to run in for long
• 1:18:02
  distances, but they are boats. All right, so for a whole $4.00
• 1:18:08
  you can race in roller skates. Oh, rapid, now we're moving.
• 1:18:12
  Rapid and for $5 you can wear Adios Pro Fours.
• 1:18:17
  OK, we're spending $4.00. We're going on roller skates.
• 1:18:20
  Really. Yeah.
• 1:18:22
  Wow. Think about it.
• 1:18:23
  I reckon you can go faster on roller skates when you get good
• 1:18:25
  at them. We've got eight.
• 1:18:26
  Oh yeah, sure. But also.
• 1:18:28
  You're assuming I've got roller skates as well.
• 1:18:30
  We both do OK. Yeah, there's no way I'm having
• 1:18:32
  them just waiting for you. Loophole.
• 1:18:36
  Think about the lack of leg fatigue.
• 1:18:37
  Yeah, for sure. Oh, but do you reckon you can do
• 1:18:41
  wall balls and roller skates and push a sled and RIP?
• 1:18:44
  That's a problem. No, no, no, it's fine because on
• 1:18:47
  the front of them they usually have brakes.
• 1:18:49
  OK, so you're like up on their toes?
• 1:18:51
  So like, and people do toe wobbles, they they, you know.
• 1:18:54
  Is there actually there must be a rule in the High Rocks rule
• 1:18:57
  book that you can't do in rows? You can take your shoes off and
• 1:18:59
  you can cross the line and as long as you carry them across
• 1:19:01
  the line, you can take your shoes off at the wall.
• 1:19:02
  Surely there's something that says you can't roller skate.
• 1:19:05
  That's a loophole. Maybe we're going.
• 1:19:06
  Maybe we're going to Berlin this year.
• 1:19:09
  We're going to be rapid. Yeah.
• 1:19:12
  Start practicing. Roll your heads.
• 1:19:13
  Yeah cool. Now there's a disclaimer before
• 1:19:17
  the last one OK because if you have any leftover money, we're
• 1:19:22
  going to put you into a wild card round.
• 1:19:24
  OK, so there's a there's a bonus category and by So for now
• 1:19:28
  you've. Spent $8 I think.
• 1:19:29
  You've got loads. I've got loads, I've got $4.
• 1:19:31
  So just just bear that in mind. You might want to spend it all,
• 1:19:35
  or you might want to save some. When's your start time?
• 1:19:40
  Oh. OK, for $1.00 you can race at
• 1:19:43
  9:00 PM. That's so classic of high rocks.
• 1:19:47
  For $2.00 you could race at 7:30 AM.
• 1:19:50
  OK, for $3 you could race at 8:30 PM.
• 1:19:56
  For $4.00, the real money 2:30 PM.
• 1:20:01
  Or for $5, you could have the lovely AM slot of 10 AM.
• 1:20:05
  Well, I can't have 10 AM. Because you have no more, no
• 1:20:08
  more money. But are you going to?
• 1:20:10
  Are you going to smash all your cash and miss out on the wild
• 1:20:15
  card round? OK, so do you know what?
• 1:20:23
  This might surprise some people. I'm going to go for the 9:00 PM
• 1:20:26
  slot. Wow.
• 1:20:28
  Because thinking about it, my biggest complaint so far with
• 1:20:32
  like the the men's, you've just laughed because I've got money
• 1:20:35
  leftover. Don't like that I The biggest
• 1:20:39
  complaint about the men's Pro is that it is late in the day.
• 1:20:42
  My biggest complaint with that usually is the fact that I have
• 1:20:44
  been working and filming leading up to that.
• 1:20:47
  So I'm absolutely knackered by that pumpkin because I've been
• 1:20:49
  on my feet. If I had nothing else to.
• 1:20:51
  Do you'd be chilling. I train and perform best in the
• 1:20:55
  evening, so I'm actually good with that.
• 1:20:57
  OK, I hope you are too because you're obviously having to race
• 1:20:59
  it with me. I will just spend the whole day
• 1:21:01
  stressing. Don't worry about me, that's
• 1:21:03
  fine. So you've got what, $3.00 left?
• 1:21:09
  Yes, $3.00 left. Now the other disclaimer that I
• 1:21:13
  didn't tell you about to. Spend all of it.
• 1:21:14
  You have to spend all of. It OK, great.
• 1:21:16
  All right, so let me talk you through your options.
• 1:21:20
  Just so you know what you could have had for $1.00 you could
• 1:21:24
  have got the sportograph photography pack to remember
• 1:21:26
  your special day. OK, Yeah, for $2.00 you could
• 1:21:32
  have had an intra workout gel. Oh, that might have been nice.
• 1:21:35
  That might have been nice. But what you're getting for $3?
• 1:21:39
  Wait, tell me what 4 and 5 dollars?
• 1:21:40
  OK, fine. For $4.00 we could have skipped
• 1:21:43
  the first run. Oh.
• 1:21:45
  OK, been good. That would have been good.
• 1:21:47
  Roller skates as well. We'd have been rocking.
• 1:21:49
  Yeah. Yeah.
• 1:21:49
  And then for $5 we could have got Nitro boosts on our roller
• 1:21:55
  skates. But what?
• 1:21:58
  What what you have, not me what you have?
• 1:22:02
  Oh wow, for. $3 is a personalized BFA bag.
• 1:22:08
  No one has to win. To put your roller skates in.
• 1:22:10
  Built for athletes bags, there is nothing that you can't fit in
• 1:22:14
  them. That is so true.
• 1:22:16
  Amazing, I can see of them. I could probably even bring Amy
• 1:22:19
  out with me thanks to that bag. No, that was that was good.
• 1:22:22
  Actually, I like that. I might I might bring that back
• 1:22:24
  for you in a in a scenario setting I'm.
• 1:22:27
  Hoping at some at some point I get the flag game.
• 1:22:29
  I think I did it where I at? Yeah, I like that, I think.
• 1:22:32
  Yeah, the flag game before you mentioned it, unbeatable at Flag
• 1:22:35
  knowledge. Yeah, I think, I think I did OK
• 1:22:38
  AB I was quite happy with the. So you're doing double s with me
• 1:22:44
  in Berlin at 9:00 PM at 9:00 PM. We've always got.
• 1:22:49
  Sick. So I have to wear the BFA bag as
• 1:22:51
  I go around. Safety precaution.
• 1:22:54
  No, that would, I reckon that would be good.
• 1:22:56
  I'd actually do that. Yeah, that more.
• 1:22:58
  Yeah. The only the, the only thing
• 1:23:00
  that I nearly changed my answer on was Copenhagen, because
• 1:23:03
  Copenhagen, it was a sick city when I went there a couple of
• 1:23:06
  weeks ago, but. Irrelevant now course speed
• 1:23:09
  because you've got roller skating.
• 1:23:10
  Yeah, and and in hindsight, I don't think I would have saved
• 1:23:14
  my to the last round. No offence but I might have
• 1:23:17
  spent $2.00 on getting Tim Weinish as my partner.
• 1:23:23
  Although yeah, offence taken, he.
• 1:23:24
  Doesn't look like he's a guy that could rock roller.
• 1:23:27
  Skates. I don't know.
• 1:23:28
  I don't think so. Never judge a book by its.
• 1:23:30
  Cover. He's too skinny for me to trust
• 1:23:32
  those ankles. They're gone.
• 1:23:34
  Ankles are gone. Amazing.
• 1:23:37
  Well, yeah, I thoroughly enjoyed that game.
• 1:23:39
  I'd be interested to know what the listeners spend their money
• 1:23:42
  on. For those of you that don't know
• 1:23:44
  Amy, I imagine none of you chose her.
• 1:23:46
  Bless her. But if you did, let me know and
• 1:23:49
  I will keep. But I want you.
• 1:23:52
  But yeah, please. Do money wells.
• 1:23:54
  Firm, do you leave your comments and let us know what you'd have
• 1:23:57
  spent your money on? I can't remember what I asked
• 1:23:59
  for your input on earlier more Oh yeah, more documentaries.
• 1:24:01
  If you guys have got cool things for us to watch, please
• 1:24:03
  genuinely either hit them in the comments down below on YouTube
• 1:24:06
  or fire them our way on the social media that's at mindsets
• 1:24:10
  under score podcast or you can reach out to Chucks directly at
• 1:24:13
  Chucks under score life under score and at Angus Cook all
• 1:24:17
  together. Likewise, if you're interested
• 1:24:20
  in any coaching support or anything from Chuck's Rocks
• 1:24:23
  sport, you can find that through Chuck's page as well.
• 1:24:27
  Technically the game sponsored by rock sport.
• 1:24:29
  Hence this week, the high rocks theme.
• 1:24:31
  There you go yeah and there's some interesting things possibly
• 1:24:35
  coming up. We've already done one SIM talks
• 1:24:38
  of another one talks of maybe more.
• 1:24:40
  We'll see what happens so stay tuned in.
• 1:24:42
  Make sure you're following all those and and there's anything
• 1:24:46
  else from you. I've got nothing to give.
• 1:24:48
  I look forward to seeing you all in the next episode.