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- Lucas: So September 2022. Yvon Chouinard, the founder of Patagonia, announces he's giving away the entire company — valued at about three billion dollars — to a trust and a nonprofit dedicated to fighting climate change. And the immediate reaction from a lot of people was, 'Wait, he's just handing over a profitable business? Why not sell and donate the cash?' Luna: Right. And that's the question I had too. Because standard billionaire philanthropy is usually, you know, sell the company, put the money into a foundation, dole out grants. Chouinard did something structurally different. Lucas: Exactly. And the key to understanding it is the legal structure he set up. Patagonia's voting stock — the shares that control the company — went to a trust called the Patagonia Purpose Trust. The nonvoting stock went to a 501 nonprofit called the Holdfast Collective. Luna: So the trust controls the company, and the nonprofit gets the money. But why a 501 instead of a more common private foundation? Lucas: Great question. A 501 can spend money on political advocacy and lobbying — things a private foundation can't do as freely. And Chouinard wanted the profits to go directly toward fighting climate change, which includes pushing for policy change. So the Holdfast Collective can pour Patagonia's profits — about a hundred million dollars a year — into political campaigns, grassroots organizing, litigation, whatever it takes. A traditional foundation would have been more restricted. Luna: And he didn't take a tax write-off either, right? That was a big talking point at the time. Lucas: That's right. Chouinard didn't claim a charitable deduction because he didn't sell the company. He just transferred ownership. So the tax benefit — if you can call it that — is that the company's profits will never be taxed as his personal income. They flow to the nonprofit tax-free. But he personally got zero financial gain from the deal. In fact, he and his family paid about seventeen million dollars in taxes just on the gift itself. Luna: That's a real commitment. And it reframes the whole 'purpose vs profit' debate. Patagonia has always been a mission-driven company — 'We're in business to save our home planet' — but this move made the mission legally permanent. Lucas: Exactly. Chouinard said in his open letter, 'Earth is now our only shareholder.' And that's not just a slogan. By putting the voting shares into a trust with a legally binding purpose, he ensured that no future CEO or board could take the company public, sell it, or abandon the mission. The purpose is now as structurally locked in as a for-profit's obligation to maximize shareholder value. Luna: So it's almost like a reverse poison pill. Instead of protecting against a hostile takeover, it protects the company's soul. Lucas: That's a great way to put it. And it's worth noting that Patagonia didn't need to do this. The company was doing about a billion dollars in revenue, profitable, growing. Chouinard could have kept it all, passed it to his kids, or sold it. But he chose a path that few billionaires have taken. And that raises the question: could other CEOs follow this model? Luna: Let's get into that. Because I think the first obstacle is that most founders want to maintain some control. Chouinard essentially gave up all control. The trust he set up — the Patagonia Purpose Trust — is irrevocable. He can't change his mind. Lucas: Right. And that's a huge psychological hurdle. Most founders — especially those who've built a company over decades — have a hard time letting go. Chouinard was eighty-three when he did this. He'd already stepped away from day-to-day management. So perhaps it was easier for him than for a younger founder still deeply involved. Luna: There's also the question of scale. Patagonia is a private company, so Chouinard didn't have to answer to public shareholders. If you're the CEO of a publicly traded company, you can't just give away the company without a shareholder vote. Lucas: That's a key point. The Patagonia model works only for privately held companies where the founder or family controls a majority of the voting shares. So it's most relevant for private, family-owned businesses — which, by the way, make up a huge portion of the economy. There are thousands of family-owned companies that could theoretically do something similar. Luna: But would they want to? I mean, most families want to pass the wealth to the next generation. Chouinard's kids were reportedly supportive of the move, but it's unusual. Lucas: It is unusual. And I think that's partly because the traditional playbook for wealthy founders is either sell and donate, or set up a foundation. The trust plus nonprofit structure is more complex and less understood. But it has advantages — particularly the ability to use profits for advocacy. And for founders who genuinely care about a cause, it might be the most effective way to ensure their life's work continues to serve that cause beyond their lifetime. Luna: Speaking of effectiveness, how has the Holdfast Collective actually used the money so far? It's been almost four years now. Lucas: The Holdfast Collective has granted out over two hundred million dollars since 2022. They've funded everything from grassroots climate groups to legal challenges against fossil fuel projects. One of the early grants went to the Climate Justice Alliance. Another went to support community-led renewable energy projects. They're also funding voter mobilization around climate issues. It's still early, but the money is clearly going to work. Luna: And Patagonia itself continues to operate as a for-profit business. So the company still makes money, still competes in the apparel market, still has to innovate. The difference is that all the profit — after reinvesting in the business — goes to the nonprofit. Lucas: Right. And that creates an interesting dynamic for the employees. They're working for a company that's essentially a profit engine for a climate nonprofit. Some critics have said it's a gimmick — that Patagonia is just marketing its virtue. But the structure is real. The money is flowing. And Chouinard personally gave up billions. Luna: I think the 'gimmick' criticism misses the point. The structure forces the company to be both profitable and mission-aligned. If Patagonia stops being profitable, there's no money for the climate fight. So the business has to perform. And the mission keeps the company honest. Lucas: Exactly. And that's the part that other CEOs should pay attention to. The Patagonia model doesn't require you to be a billionaire or give up everything. But it does require you to think structurally about purpose — to embed it in the legal DNA of the company, not just in a mission statement. Luna: Before we go further, I want to mention something that's on my mind. These kinds of deep, structural conversations about business and purpose — they're exactly why I love working on this show. And if you, the listener, have gotten something out of these episodes, a small bit of support genuinely goes a long way. A couple of dollars a month buys us coffee and keeps the podcast sustainable and independent. That's at buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Lucas: Yeah, it really does make a difference. And it keeps us free from ads and sponsors, so we can dig into exactly the stories we think matter. So thank you to anyone who's chipped in. Luna: Alright, back to Patagonia. One thing I'm curious about: has any other company actually copied this model? I know there was talk right after the announcement that other founders might follow suit. Lucas: A few have explored it. The outdoor gear company REI is a co-op, so it's different. But I know of at least one mid-size family-owned manufacturing company that set up a similar structure — though smaller in scale. It's not a flood, but the idea is spreading. And there's a legal framework now that other companies can reference. Luna: What about the reaction from the business press? I remember some skepticism — especially from people who said, 'If he really wanted to fight climate change, he should have kept the company and used his influence as a CEO.' Lucas: I remember that critique. And I think it underestimates the power of a locked-in structure. As a CEO, Chouinard had influence, but he was still accountable to the market. Now the company is structurally insulated from market pressure to maximize profit at the expense of mission. He traded personal influence for institutional permanence. Luna: And in terms of the climate crisis, is the Holdfast Collective's spending actually making a difference? It's a lot of money, but climate change is a trillion-dollar problem. Lucas: It's a drop in the bucket, but it's a strategically placed drop. The ability to fund political advocacy and legal challenges is unique. Most climate philanthropy goes to research and conservation. The Holdfast Collective can fund aggressive policy fights. And that's a gap that many climate donors don't fill. Luna: So the lesson for business leaders might be: think about what unique lever your company has — and then build your ownership structure around pulling that lever permanently. Lucas: That's exactly right. The Patagonia story isn't about a saintly founder. It's about a founder who understood that the most powerful thing he could do was not just give money, but give control — and design the handover so that the mission outlasts him. That's a leadership lesson that goes beyond climate. Luna: Looking ahead, do you think we'll see more companies adopt this model? Or is Patagonia a one-off? Lucas: I think we'll see more — especially among wealthy founders who are approaching retirement and want their legacy to mean something specific. The legal blueprint is now public. The more people understand it, the more it becomes an option. But it will always be rare, because it requires a level of conviction and personal sacrifice that most people aren't willing to make. And that's what makes Chouinard's decision remarkable. Luna: It also raises a deeper question: should more companies be legally required to consider stakeholders beyond shareholders? The Patagonia model is voluntary, but it points toward a different way of thinking about corporate purpose. Lucas: That's the big structural question. And I think Patagonia's move has shifted the Overton window. It's now harder for CEOs to say 'we can't put purpose first because we have to maximize shareholder value.' Patagonia shows you can design a company that does both — and the founder can give away billions while doing it. Luna: Alright, I think that's a good place to leave it. A fascinating case study in how ownership structure can lock in purpose. Lucas: And a reminder that the most interesting business stories are often less about the products and more about the decisions that determine who the company ultimately serves.