"Mindfulness, Science, Buddhism & Bullsh*t"? with Mo Edjlali

Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps · Oct 23, 2025 · 23m · transcript

You know you should meditate. But you don't have the time. Or you're no good at it. So you occasionally subscribe to a meditation app, you listen to podcast episodes about mindfulness, you nod along sagely about the importance of living in the Now, and you get back to your busy life. It doesn't stick.

That's been Josh's story for decades. So when he heard that the founder of one of the world's leading centres for Mindfulness-Based Stress Reduction has written a book criticising how meditation is marketed and packaged and practised, Josh's ears pricked up.

Have meditation apps, Buddhist…