Latest / The Dr. Psych Mom Show with clinical psychologist Dr. Samantha Rodman Whiten / You Can Always Do Better Than Someone Who Treats You Badly
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- 0:05Hi everybody, and welcome to the dr.
- 0:07Psych mom show today, we are going to be talking about how
- 0:10you can always do better than somebody who treats you badly.
- 0:14And if you are securely attached and you grow up in a happy home
- 0:19seeing a loving marriage, this makes total sense to you.
- 0:22And for those of us who were not that lucky, then it may be a
- 0:26harder sell, but I am up to the task.
- 0:29Before we dive in, please do subscribe, I'm going to be up to
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- 0:37these free episodes and that is about how acts of service and
- 0:42physical touch, our kind of opposite Love Languages and I go
- 0:46into that in depth. So anyway what we are talking
- 0:50about is the fact that some people say well I'm not happy in
- 0:54my marriage but I couldn't do better than my spouse and look
- 0:57if you're not happy in your marriage because you are
- 1:00dissatisfied with them because they're just like not perfect
- 1:03enough and you know not Like whatever, like a perfect ideal
- 1:09human from romance, novel, or a porn movie, or whatever.
- 1:14Well, then that's a you problem. But and you got to kind of
- 1:17accept that nobody's perfect. But in most cases, what people
- 1:21mean by that is my partner doesn't seem to love me or
- 1:26outright says, they don't love me.
- 1:28Isn't very nice to me. And doesn't really treat me very
- 1:31well and makes it pretty obvious that that they do.
- 1:35Not find much value in me but somehow they're the best.
- 1:38I could do, how are they the best you could do?
- 1:41I mean, what would the other people be lighting you on fire?
- 1:45You know I mean it's like what is the comparison Point here?
- 1:48This is as low as it should get in an intimate relationship,
- 1:52this is a 0 out of 10. If the person doesn't love you
- 1:57there is not a love relationship so I could see if you're saying
- 2:01I'm staying because of the kids or even I'm staying because
- 2:05Because we can't afford to divorce.
- 2:08These things are, you know, usually can be worked out, you
- 2:12know, but it's not, it's not as as obvious as a sign of low
- 2:19self-worth as somebody saying, my partner doesn't love me but
- 2:24yet they're the best that I could do.
- 2:26No, they are not. Now, let me tell you why.
- 2:29You would think that you would think that because you grew up
- 2:31in a home where you did not feel loved or valued.
- 2:34If you did not feel Of their valued and you were never really
- 2:37good enough and you were made to feel inadequate and you were
- 2:40made to feel like a second-class citizen in one way or another or
- 2:44you were ignored or devalued or certainly.
- 2:47If you were abused or neglected, then you don't really think you
- 2:50have much worth anyway. So for your partner not to love
- 2:54you or care about you or Express, anything positive
- 2:57towards you is, it's not surprising.
- 3:00You don't necessarily feel like you deserve that anyway, and I
- 3:04talked a lot about About this in my podcasts on when you don't
- 3:07think you deserve to have a good sex life when you don't think
- 3:09you deserve to be happy, I have posted about that too.
- 3:14And usually what this also means is that you're depressed, so not
- 3:19only do you have low self-esteem but you're probably very
- 3:21depressed between the childhood, which is definite.
- 3:24If you stay in a Loveless marriage, there's always
- 3:27childhood issues at play. If you feel like you deserve to
- 3:32be there if you hate every second of it and you're like,
- 3:35Adding to get out as soon as the kids turn 18.
- 3:38Well then at least maybe you got a little bit more to work within
- 3:41the self esteem department. But if you're saying that, I got
- 3:45to stay in this for the rest of my life, because I couldn't do
- 3:48better than somebody who doesn't even like me.
- 3:50No, that isn't true, that isn't true.
- 3:54The person in order to do better, a person would only have
- 3:57to be nice to you. That's doable, that's really is
- 4:01doable. You know, you are a person of
- 4:04worth a Person of value. Even if you didn't think so
- 4:07growing up, which of course, LED you to reenact that as, you
- 4:11know, if you've been listening to my podcast, you replicate how
- 4:15you grew up subconsciously. So somebody that grew up being
- 4:18talked down to and being shit on basically at home is going to be
- 4:22drawn to somebody who does the same thing.
- 4:23Not because they want that they yearn for something totally
- 4:26different, but it would not feel comfortable, you know, I just
- 4:29had a either a poster podcast or something about think was a
- 4:33podcast on when you broke up with people that I do too much
- 4:36and then you ended up with somebody who didn't like you
- 4:38that much. Why?
- 4:39Because it's familiar. It's familiar to always be
- 4:42courting. The attention of somebody that
- 4:45you can't ever fully get the attention of, you know, trying
- 4:49to impress. Somebody who's never impressed
- 4:52trying to get somebody to love you.
- 4:53Who doesn't love you. You know, that's very familiar
- 4:57territory. If you were raised in a very
- 4:59similar home environment and so you end up thinking when you
- 5:04were raised in a dysfunctional, Home that you're just not meant
- 5:06for things like love, that just does not happen for people like
- 5:10you. And you may think that's because
- 5:12you're ugly or because you're stupid or because you don't look
- 5:14a certain way or don't act a certain way, or whatever.
- 5:17You may not even interrogate it that much.
- 5:18Except to think it's always been this way.
- 5:21You know, I've always kind of been on the periphery of human,
- 5:25you know, existence and I don't get things like a mutually
- 5:29loving relationship. So the best I could get is this
- 5:34person who looks good. Everybody from the outside
- 5:37frequently they don't even frequently.
- 5:38They're like everybody thinks they're kind of an asshole or
- 5:42mean or cold or something but let's even say that they look
- 5:45great to everybody on the outside.
- 5:47Looks to everybody else that you have a good marriage.
- 5:50But then internally, the marriage is just nothing.
- 5:53This person does not really care for you at all.
- 5:56So, and there are many, many people in these situations,
- 5:58think about it. If 10% and people are in sexless
- 6:01marriages, you think there's a lot of love there in most cases,
- 6:04certainly not. Not, you know, I mean those
- 6:06things usually go hand in hand. Unless of course I apologize.
- 6:10I still have my voice issue but, you know, usually when when
- 6:15people when the physical affection and the romance is
- 6:17just totally gone. Usually, the romantic love is
- 6:20gone to but in some situations, there's health concerns or a lot
- 6:24or real old age or whatever and the people still love each other
- 6:27even though they're in a sexless marriage, or one, or both,
- 6:30people just have no sex drive for whatever reason.
- 6:34But in most Cases. So let's say it's like around
- 6:37ten percent. Let's even say it's like 5%,
- 6:39some 5% of people, and then there's all the people who are
- 6:42having sex, but it's Loveless sex, right?
- 6:45So, I don't know, I don't know what percent of people are in
- 6:47Loveless marriages. Maybe somebody wants to Google
- 6:49that depressing statistic, but in my field I see it a lot,
- 6:53right? And nobody deserves to be in a
- 6:55Loveless marriage and especially nobody deserves to be in a
- 7:00Loveless marriage, because they think that this is somehow it's
- 7:03good as they could get, it is Is Never As Good As you could get
- 7:07to be with somebody who does not treat you well or who does not
- 7:11love you. You know, this is not a
- 7:13relationship that somebody should say.
- 7:14This is the Pinnacle of what I can do.
- 7:18Everybody that I have ever seen this actively searching for
- 7:22love. That really genuinely wants to
- 7:25be connected with somebody ends up connected with somebody in
- 7:28some way. It's not like that relationship
- 7:30will last forever. But I've never I work with lots
- 7:32and lots of people who are divorcing pre divorce
- 7:34post-divorce Never have I seen and everybody's always like, no,
- 7:37no, I'm the weird one. I'm gonna go on a dating web
- 7:40sites and I'm gonna, you know, join groups for singles and
- 7:43whatever and I'm the one who's going to have zero success.
- 7:46You don't no, no, no, you don't know.
- 7:49I'm going to have zero success and invariably that just doesn't
- 7:54happen. They end up on dates with people
- 7:56who treat them nice, they end up like you could be treated nicer
- 7:59on a first date with a stranger. Then you were treated for the
- 8:02entirety of a multi-decade marriage.
- 8:05H, if it's the wrong marriage, you know?
- 8:07And because at least it's person doesn't hate you, right?
- 8:10I mean they just met you. So the point is is you really
- 8:14need to interrogate your innate assumption that usually goes on
- 8:17explored, that's for whatever reason.
- 8:20You are this person, this the solitary person that that is a
- 8:26unique situation that cannot do better than a person who hates
- 8:30that or dislikes. That honestly, the opposite of
- 8:33Love is hate. So I know that the real opposite
- 8:37is indifferent, you know, whatever, I'm angle that same
- 8:40but the opposite of Love isn't hate.
- 8:42Its indifference, that's the right way to say it so some
- 8:45people aren't even with somebody who hates them.
- 8:48They're just with a partner who's totally indifferent to
- 8:50them. How could you not be able to do
- 8:52better than that? You know, everybody has positive
- 8:55traits. Everybody has positive traits in
- 8:58the whole world. Everybody is positive some
- 9:00positive trait. And if you are out there,
- 9:02putting yourself out there being vulnerable.
- 9:05And being real and authentic, the odds of finding.
- 9:08Somebody that thinks that you have.
- 9:09A positive trait are very high. You have Myriad positive traits.
- 9:14Everybody has, you would know this if you were raised in a
- 9:18different sort of home, where your positive traits were a
- 9:21focus and were lauded instead of ignored or made fun of or
- 9:27diminished, you know, it the exact same person.
- 9:30If and I talked about this in a scarcity mindset podcast, the
- 9:33exact same person who was raised in a half.
- 9:35Home versus an unhappy home. They could have all the same
- 9:38personality traits look. Exactly, identical.
- 9:39They were raised in an unhappy home.
- 9:41They're going to think that they are, you know, kind of shitty
- 9:45and really not that great. And anyway, and if they were
- 9:49raised in the happy home with loving parents, who had the
- 9:51bandwidth to give and receive emotional support from one
- 9:54another and toward the children, they would think they were
- 9:57pretty great. The same exact person, you know.
- 10:00And I can promise you this because the people that I
- 10:03interact with with Low self-esteem versus the ones,
- 10:06with high self-esteem, do not much difference.
- 10:09You know, they're not much different by any measure, so it
- 10:13they might have great jobs. They look perfectly fine, but I
- 10:17need a core level, the people with low self-esteem because
- 10:20they were raised in an upbringing where they did not
- 10:23get their emotional needs met. They just think that they're
- 10:25kind of shitty, they think. Yeah, my jobs are right, but,
- 10:28you know what, I'm not really even that good at it.
- 10:30It's kind of easier than people think and yeah, like II.
- 10:35Good at, you know, XYZ I did win these awards at this or that,
- 10:38but, you know, it was really by a hair and the judging committee
- 10:41wasn't really very good. And it's like, it's like, no
- 10:44matter what happens, no matter what evidence, a person with low
- 10:48self-esteem, has about how good they are, they don't believe it.
- 10:51That's like, what literally, that's what low self-esteem is.
- 10:54You do not assume yourself highly.
- 10:56So if by accident in your mind by coincidence, you happen to
- 11:00have gotten positive feedback, you assume that it's some sort
- 11:03of mistake that is By the way, the way that you could sabotage
- 11:07yourself and dating is, if you do not work on your low
- 11:09self-esteem. So let's say, you do get out of
- 11:11the Loveless marriage, you don't work on your self-esteem.
- 11:14Well, then you will be fine. Find yourself yet again,
- 11:17tragically drawn to people who confirm, what you still think
- 11:21about yourself, which is that your kind of shitty.
- 11:23And if they look down on you, then you're like, oh well, that
- 11:26makes sense. They have good judgment.
- 11:28You don't think that out out loud but, you know you think it
- 11:34on a deep level? You're like, oh, that person
- 11:36likes me too much. Something must be wrong with
- 11:38them. This one doesn't like me at, all
- 11:40seemed, like there were a viable candidate.
- 11:42So, of course, you can see how that would sabotage big.
- 11:45But if you are in a situation where you want to get out of
- 11:48your Loveless, marriage to lead a different kind of life, then
- 11:51you go to therapy. You work on yourself, you work
- 11:53on your unresolved childhood issues.
- 11:55You figure out that you're pretty good, you're in all
- 11:59right, person. You know, you may not be a
- 12:01perfect person, but nobody is. And so you deserve to have love
- 12:05in your life and then you go forth and you get it or maybe
- 12:09you go to couples counseling, with your existing spouse, who
- 12:12doesn't seem to love you or care about you very much.
- 12:14Maybe it turns out that they're very mad at you.
- 12:16Maybe there's an unexplained empathic ruptures that they
- 12:20never talked about with you and maybe you can work on rebuilding
- 12:23a connection, who knows? I mean, I work with people all
- 12:25the time that come from a place of profound disconnection and
- 12:30can grow closer. You know, sometimes works,
- 12:33sometimes it doesn't. There's no couples.
- 12:35With 100% success rate because people come in frequently as
- 12:38I've said as the step you know, right the step before going to
- 12:44the divorce lawyer frequently after the divorce lawyer you
- 12:47know when they're you know have not even possibly been told the
- 12:50spouse, they went to the divorce lawyer to think about it.
- 12:53But anyway my point is that, if you are somebody who thinks that
- 12:56the best you can do is somebody that doesn't even love you.
- 12:59That is not real. That is stemming from a very sad
- 13:02upbringing that I am sorry that you suffered through.
- 13:05But it should not should not should not be thought of by you
- 13:08as the real truth. How would you tell your child to
- 13:11think about this? If your child was in a marriage
- 13:14where somebody didn't even seem to like them didn't give them
- 13:17any affection. Didn't give them any Smiles or
- 13:20happiness or a warm hand or a hug.
- 13:23Would you tell your child? Wow, you know it is the best you
- 13:26can do after all. No.
- 13:28You would not say that to your child?
- 13:30You wouldn't say well you know, you you do suck, you know?
- 13:34So really Do you expect from your spouse?
- 13:37You would never say that to your child.
- 13:38So why are you saying it to yourself?
- 13:40You're saying it's yourself only because this is a the way that
- 13:43you learned how to think about yourself from a maladaptive
- 13:46upbringing, which was not your parents fault.
- 13:48They didn't try to give you a maladaptive upbringing.
- 13:50I'm sure. There's we're worse than you
- 13:51then yours. So we're nobody's blaming
- 13:54anybody. But the point of the matter is,
- 13:56if you have terrible self-esteem, it originated in
- 13:59early life, you know, I'm for some people.
- 14:02You know what, there are some people that just had Just, and
- 14:05it's not just, but the, the home life was, alright.
- 14:08But then they had real peer bullying or they had a horrible
- 14:13trauma happen to them, you know, and from a significant other or
- 14:17something like that, and wherever it was, they got tipped
- 14:21off the balance of healthy self-esteem and they started to
- 14:23think about themselves as somebody that really doesn't
- 14:25deserve to be happy. So no matter where this
- 14:28originated, it originated earlier than your spouse and you
- 14:33picked your spouse in park. Because they perpetuated a way
- 14:37that you thought about yourself, you know, by just not really
- 14:40being is into you as maybe other people were or other people
- 14:44could have been certainly. So think about this, if it
- 14:46speaks to you you know listen to it again, think about it.
- 14:49And remember, you can always get something better than a shitty
- 14:54terrible situation as I hope. And I know that most people
- 14:57would tell their children. Okay.
- 14:59You deserve to hear that as well.
- 15:01All right. Hopefully, this was useful and I
- 15:03will talk to you all soon. Have a great day.
- 15:05Everybody.