Latest / Massive Agent Podcast / The RIGHT WAY To Post About Real Estate
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- 0:00SPEAKER_00: On this episode, I'm going to teach you guys how to post about real estate the right way without boring your audience to tears.
- 0:17SPEAKER_00: I love to buy houses.
- 0:18SPEAKER_00: I like to sell houses.
- 0:22SPEAKER_01: Wait a minute.
- 0:23SPEAKER_01: Leads a week.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: I've had better.
- 0:28SPEAKER_01: Am I gonna get your attention now?
- 0:31SPEAKER_01: Here's your host, Dustin Brohm.
- 0:36SPEAKER_00: What is up, everybody?
- 0:37SPEAKER_00: Welcome to episode 207 of the Massive Agent Podcast.
- 0:41SPEAKER_00: I am your host, Dustin Brohm, and I am super excited today to talk to you about how to post about your listings the right way because most agents they just don't.
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: They're uh they just post check out my listing, and it's hot garbage, and people tune it out, people don't follow you anymore because you just put out hot garbage.
- 1:02SPEAKER_00: And hot garbage doesn't perform so well on social media, it needs to stand out.
- 1:07SPEAKER_00: And you've you've heard me before talk about posting just a little bit about real estate and usually nothing about real estate, but uh every once in a while you do need to post about real estate.
- 1:18SPEAKER_00: But the question is how?
- 1:19SPEAKER_00: How do you do it?
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: And that's what we're gonna be talking about today.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: Before I jump into that, I'm super excited.
- 1:24SPEAKER_00: I've teased this before, but we're finally in February 4th in Salt Lake City, Utah.
- 1:30SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be doing the very first ever Massive Agent Live in-person event.
- 1:35SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be the Massive Agent Society Live.
- 1:38SPEAKER_00: We're gonna be focusing on four different aspects of your business: media, mindset, marketing, and lead gen, and then master planning, how to really make sure that you're going in the right direction, that you have the right plan in place.
- 1:51SPEAKER_00: And we're gonna do this in one day, Saturday, February 5th.
- 1:55SPEAKER_00: We're only we only have spots for 20 people.
- 1:58SPEAKER_00: So make sure that you go to register right away and uh get your ticket booked.
- 2:04SPEAKER_00: Massiveagentpodcast.com slash live event.
- 2:08SPEAKER_00: Massive agentpodcast.com slash live event.
- 2:11SPEAKER_00: And we'll link that up in the YouTube description and the show notes of the podcast.
- 2:15SPEAKER_00: But um, we only have room for 20 guys uh because this is an in-person event, not Zoom.
- 2:20SPEAKER_00: Super excited to meet you in person and spend the whole day with you.
- 2:24SPEAKER_00: We'll be doing something cool the night before as well for you guys that want to travel in on Friday.
- 2:29SPEAKER_00: More details over on the website though, MassiveAgent Podcast.com slash live event.
- 2:33SPEAKER_00: And I hope to see you in Salt Lake in February for the Massive Agent Society Live.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: And uh, I'll be talking a little bit more between now and then about why we're doing the Society Live.
- 2:44SPEAKER_00: The Massive Agent Society is gonna be completely and totally new.
- 2:47SPEAKER_00: Everything that it was before, it's now not that.
- 2:51SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be better, it's gonna be more than that.
- 2:55SPEAKER_00: And uh, and so there's the hint.
- 2:58SPEAKER_00: Between now and February, you'll learn more.
- 3:00SPEAKER_00: And those who are here in Salt Lake for the live event, you're gonna get to experience what the new society is like in person, and uh and it's gonna be cool.
- 3:09SPEAKER_00: So see you guys there.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: All right, posting about real estate, kind of important, right?
- 3:15SPEAKER_00: Um, the biggest pushback that I get whenever I'm telling agents, hey, you need to stop posting about real estate so much is well, I have to share my listings.
- 3:23SPEAKER_00: The seller will get all pissed off.
- 3:25SPEAKER_00: I have to share my listings, or the seller's gonna think I'm not doing my job.
- 3:29SPEAKER_00: Okay, but how are you sharing it?
- 3:31SPEAKER_00: Because honest to God, most of you guys when you post, when you you you do this duty that you must do to the seller to post their listings, you you freaking mail it in like a lazy piece of shit.
- 3:43SPEAKER_00: You just you just grab the link to the MLS listing, you post it and say, check out my new listing.
- 3:48SPEAKER_00: Great, how dynamic and exciting.
- 3:51SPEAKER_00: Check out my new listing.
- 3:53SPEAKER_00: A lot of thought went into that.
- 3:54SPEAKER_00: You must be a master marketer, right?
- 3:56SPEAKER_00: Look, if I'm dancing all over your toes right now, it's on purpose because most of you don't realize you're doing it.
- 4:03SPEAKER_00: I'm not saying you are a lazy piece of shit person, but what you're doing is lazy, okay?
- 4:09SPEAKER_00: It takes more thought.
- 4:10SPEAKER_00: And so that's what I'm going to teach you right now is what you should be doing instead.
- 4:14SPEAKER_00: Now, with social media in general, you need to be grabbing attention of whoever's scrolling.
- 4:20SPEAKER_00: If you want somebody to see your video, your post, your graphic, whatever it is that you're posting, if you want them to actually see it, the very, very first thing.
- 4:30SPEAKER_00: And the only thing that matters is do you get their attention?
- 4:34SPEAKER_00: Because if you don't get their attention, then what happens?
- 4:37SPEAKER_00: They scroll right on past it now, don't they?
- 4:40SPEAKER_00: They scroll right on past it.
- 4:42SPEAKER_00: Hmm, that kind of sucks.
- 4:44SPEAKER_00: So you put all this time and effort into this post, you created this graphic, you had a professionally done video, but nobody watches it because it never got their attention in the news feed.
- 4:53SPEAKER_00: Maybe the topic you picked sucked, the way that it was presented with the thumbnail image, or that it was just a boring, you know, whatever.
- 5:02SPEAKER_00: You've got to get their attention first.
- 5:03SPEAKER_00: Okay, so the way to get their attention is by thinking.
- 5:06SPEAKER_00: So you gotta take a step back.
- 5:08SPEAKER_00: What about your listing is so cool?
- 5:12SPEAKER_00: What are the best aspects of this new listing?
- 5:14SPEAKER_00: Is it and maybe it has nothing to do with the house itself?
- 5:18SPEAKER_00: This is where you have to think, okay, if I could if if I had a chance to tell everybody one thing about this new listing, what would it be?
- 5:27SPEAKER_00: What's the one thing that if they came to see it or if they heard about this one thing, they would absolutely schedule a showing and probably make an offer?
- 5:35SPEAKER_00: What is that?
- 5:36SPEAKER_00: That's what you need to share on social, not the front of the s of the house.
- 5:41SPEAKER_00: Or or God forbid, a stock image with a link to your listing.
- 5:44SPEAKER_00: I've seen that before too.
- 5:46SPEAKER_00: So it's it's a stock image of a for sale sign and it's not even the listing itself.
- 5:51SPEAKER_00: Okay, uh that's an interesting strategy.
- 5:55SPEAKER_00: So, what about the house?
- 5:58SPEAKER_00: Or the neighborhood or the location is awesome.
- 6:02SPEAKER_00: Maybe it has nothing to do with the house.
- 6:04SPEAKER_00: Maybe the house is a piece of shit.
- 6:06SPEAKER_00: Maybe the house is just boring, middle of the road, split entry, you know, blah, um, four-bed, two-bath.
- 6:13SPEAKER_00: There's a there's a trillion of them.
- 6:15SPEAKER_00: Okay, well, maybe it's so awesome because it's right across from a certain park, or it's uh within walking distance of a new shopping center, or within a certain school district, or there's a bus stop nearby, or a train station, or whatever.
- 6:30SPEAKER_00: Maybe the view from the back porch when the sun is setting is just incredible.
- 6:35SPEAKER_00: So show that.
- 6:37SPEAKER_00: That's what you need to show because you share the most attention-grabbing thing, and guess what?
- 6:43SPEAKER_00: You've grabbed their attention, right?
- 6:45SPEAKER_00: That was a yogi bearer type of saying.
- 6:48SPEAKER_00: When you grab their attention, you have their attention, right?
- 6:51SPEAKER_00: So do that, and then they can see more about the house.
- 6:54SPEAKER_00: Then they can look at the bedrooms and the bathrooms and all the stuff and read your description, all of that.
- 7:01SPEAKER_00: So most most agents, myself included, when I first got into this business, because I didn't know better.
- 7:09SPEAKER_00: I didn't have someone, I didn't have a podcast like this telling me or giving me the perspective to really understand why you shouldn't just post a link and say check out my new listing.
- 7:19SPEAKER_00: I thought, cool, I checked the box.
- 7:21SPEAKER_00: I shared it.
- 7:22SPEAKER_00: Now I need to do it on every platform.
- 7:25SPEAKER_00: That's how you get people to tune you out, guys.
- 7:27SPEAKER_00: If it if it's just check out my new listing or I'm live at my open house, come see me from 11 to 1.
- 7:34SPEAKER_00: Well, why?
- 7:35SPEAKER_00: Why should they?
- 7:37SPEAKER_00: Why should they come see you?
- 7:39SPEAKER_00: If you're running Facebook ads for your new listing, find the best photos or video that you have of the house.
- 7:47SPEAKER_00: Okay, this one listing that I whenever I'm speaking or training for other brokerages or um or other agents or any of our training programs, I always show them how this one listing that I had a while back in in West Jordan, Utah, one of the suburbs of Salt Lake, it was just kind of a middle-of-the-road house.
- 8:04SPEAKER_00: There were a ton of them like it.
- 8:06SPEAKER_00: It wasn't even the nicest on the street, let alone the neighborhood.
- 8:09SPEAKER_00: It was just uh it was average.
- 8:11SPEAKER_00: But the master bedroom was freaking huge.
- 8:15SPEAKER_00: It was the biggest damn master bedroom I've ever seen.
- 8:18SPEAKER_00: And so as I'm looking at it, I'm like, this is the biggest master bedroom I've ever seen.
- 8:22SPEAKER_00: Click.
- 8:23SPEAKER_00: The biggest master bedroom you've ever seen.
- 8:26SPEAKER_00: That became the headline for everything I did with the marketing for that house, with Facebook ad, with posts, with everything.
- 8:33SPEAKER_00: With with the first line of the description on the MLS that gets syndicated out to all the websites.
- 8:38SPEAKER_00: The biggest master bedroom you've ever seen.
- 8:40SPEAKER_00: And so guess what I showed?
- 8:42SPEAKER_00: Rather than the front of the house, which the driveway had a big oil stain on it, rather than that picture, the first photo on our MLS was the giant frickin' master bedroom, which we had staged by the way, because it was so big it looked like uh a conference room.
- 8:57SPEAKER_00: You know, it needed some furniture in there.
- 8:59SPEAKER_00: So it still looked like this conference room, but that's okay because the headline was possibly the biggest master bedroom you've ever seen.
- 9:06SPEAKER_00: Now, when you're posting it, don't just post a bunch of text.
- 9:09SPEAKER_00: If you've noticed, if you'll pay attention, this is a skill that you really need to work on, guys.
- 9:14SPEAKER_00: Pay attention to what you're paying attention to while you're scrolling on social.
- 9:19SPEAKER_00: There's another Yogi Berra type comment.
- 9:21SPEAKER_00: Pay attention to what you're paying attention to.
- 9:23SPEAKER_00: Be conscious about what is grabbing your attention.
- 9:26SPEAKER_00: What are you reading?
- 9:27SPEAKER_00: If you read a post, why did you read it?
- 9:30SPEAKER_00: I guarantee you, if if someone just posts a big text-only paragraph with no emojis, no spacing between the lines or nothing, you're not gonna read that shit.
- 9:38SPEAKER_00: It you're just gonna be like But if you break it up and there's there's lines and separated, you know, different sentences, and there's some emojis in there, it sticks out more, it's broken up so it's easier on the eye, easier to digest, and most likely to more likely to be read.
- 9:54SPEAKER_00: So use some emojis in there.
- 9:56SPEAKER_00: So something that I love to do is you say the biggest master bedroom I've ever seen, or you've gotta see this, you gotta see the view from the back porch or you know, lake front property.
- 10:06SPEAKER_00: Um, you know, saw a moose in the backyard last night, you know, something like that.
- 10:12SPEAKER_00: That would get my attention if there was a moose in the backyard of a listing.
- 10:16SPEAKER_00: But you do some emojis, so like the bedrooms, put a bed emoji and then the number.
- 10:21SPEAKER_00: So he doesn't have to say bedrooms four, um, bathrooms two.
- 10:26SPEAKER_00: So use emojis for those, like the bed, the shower, uh, or toilet for a bathroom, or whatever, and then like the location, use a little pin emoji and then do West Jordan or Somerville or whatever the hell the the area is.
- 10:41SPEAKER_00: I better be careful.
- 10:42SPEAKER_00: I'm gonna unplug my headphones again.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: Oops.
- 10:47SPEAKER_00: Anyhow, um you guys notice a trend here.
- 10:51SPEAKER_00: Like this notice the underlying theme.
- 10:54SPEAKER_00: It just takes a little more thought and a little bit more effort.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: So that you're putting you're taking this listing that you have this obligation to share.
- 11:03SPEAKER_00: I don't necessarily agree with it.
- 11:05SPEAKER_00: Well, I I do, but not you must share it on social.
- 11:08SPEAKER_00: Yes, you should, but you should do it correctly.
- 11:12SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: Correctly means you're thinking about how are you gonna paint it in the best possible light.
- 11:18SPEAKER_00: Not the worst possible light, which is check out my listing, and then whichever image is first on the MLS, that's what shows up.
- 11:27SPEAKER_00: Like that's lazy as hell.
- 11:28SPEAKER_00: So, guys, you can take the best photos, maybe there's six of them, and you put those in a Facebook post or an Instagram carousel post, you know, where you swipe the photos, and then say link to the listing in my bio if it's Instagram, or on Facebook, you just put a link to your listing.
- 11:43SPEAKER_00: And here's another tip: why are you sending people to the MLS?
- 11:47SPEAKER_00: Hmm?
- 11:48SPEAKER_00: Why are you using the MLS link?
- 11:51SPEAKER_00: Why aren't you using your own website or your own single property website that you have your Facebook pixel on so you can retarget those that visit it with other ads, right?
- 12:04SPEAKER_00: Um, and then they're only seeing your branding.
- 12:06SPEAKER_00: If it's on your website, they're seeing your face, your logo, your name.
- 12:10SPEAKER_00: They're not bombarded by all these other agents.
- 12:12SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 12:13SPEAKER_00: On some MLSs, the MLS we have here in Utah, the biggest one, UtahRealestate.com, consumers see ads for other lenders.
- 12:21SPEAKER_00: And then there's an agent finder feature on there where they can search and find a realtor.
- 12:26SPEAKER_00: I don't want them to be searching for other realtors on my listing.
- 12:30SPEAKER_00: That's just not good business.
- 12:32SPEAKER_00: So hopefully you have your own website where you can take the listing, the listing URL and share that on social.
- 12:41SPEAKER_00: So everyone goes in your ecosystem, not someone else's.
- 12:45SPEAKER_00: It just takes a little bit more time and thought to do that.
- 12:48SPEAKER_00: Okay.
- 12:49SPEAKER_00: So even here in Utah, I see a ton of agents sharing the MLS listing because it's a great website, it's very user-friendly, it's very easy to post and it looks great, but it's still somebody else's sandbox.
- 13:03SPEAKER_00: You're still sending people to someone else's sandbox where they could potentially be exposed to credit unions that are advertising on the website or search for other agents.
- 13:15SPEAKER_00: You don't want that.
- 13:16SPEAKER_00: You want them in your ecosystem.
- 13:19SPEAKER_00: It's branding yourself.
- 13:20SPEAKER_00: It and if they start looking at other listings that aren't yours, on your website, it's schedule a listing or schedule an appointment.
- 13:27SPEAKER_00: And who does that go to?
- 13:29SPEAKER_00: Not the listing agent, it goes to you.
- 13:31SPEAKER_00: So use your link.
- 13:34SPEAKER_00: And if you don't have a website, use a single property website or a landing page, something that you control.
- 13:39SPEAKER_00: You can have your Facebook pixel on, you can have people opt into your email list if you're offering certain downloads like seller guide, buyer guide, um, you know, the 10 things that first-time buyers need to know in this market, stuff like that.
- 13:53SPEAKER_00: You can offer that if it's on your website.
- 13:55SPEAKER_00: You can't if it's on Zillow or the MLS or some other website that you don't control.
- 14:00SPEAKER_00: So, again, be a little bit more thoughtful about what's happening, about how it's going to be seen on social, and then sh put it in the best possible light.
- 14:10SPEAKER_00: As you're walking through the house for the very first time, you need to be making a mental note.
- 14:15SPEAKER_00: What about this house is awesome?
- 14:17SPEAKER_00: Like, what is so cool about this listing?
- 14:19SPEAKER_00: What are you as a marketer?
- 14:21SPEAKER_00: And hopefully you see yourself as a marketer, what do you as a marketer, or sorry, what are you as a marketer excited to share?
- 14:30SPEAKER_00: Like, whenever I would walk into a listing, I'd be like, oh, I can't wait to focus on this and to share this and market this aspect.
- 14:37SPEAKER_00: Because I thought like a marketer, not like a real tour, not a real tour, you know, as douchey as I could possibly say it.
- 14:45SPEAKER_00: So think like a marketer who happens to be a real estate agent, a marketer who sells homes, and then you'll start to notice these things right off the bat.
- 14:54SPEAKER_00: If you you got to train yourself to do that, of course, it takes time.
- 14:58SPEAKER_00: But if you're sitting down and you're like, all right, I have this new listing, I've got to start promoting it, what do I do?
- 15:03SPEAKER_00: Just think about it.
- 15:04SPEAKER_00: What impressed you?
- 15:05SPEAKER_00: What do you what do you is there their remodeled kitchen?
- 15:07SPEAKER_00: Maybe they just put a double-sided fireplace between the master bedroom and the and the living room.
- 15:12SPEAKER_00: Maybe they just got some cool new 14 shower head thing in the shower, you know, where it blasts you from all different directions and sucks all the water pressure from a three-block radius.
- 15:22SPEAKER_00: But share that.
- 15:24SPEAKER_00: Share the cool stuff.
- 15:25SPEAKER_00: Because if you think it's cool, if you think it's interesting, I guarantee them to you someone else will.
- 15:30SPEAKER_00: And uh they're probably gonna be people like you who would probably be good fits or who would be a good fit for you as a client.
- 15:38SPEAKER_00: So be more thoughtful about how you do this.
- 15:42SPEAKER_00: Speaking of being more thoughtful, how many of you guys have thought about your leads?
- 15:48SPEAKER_00: How many of you thought about how the experience your leads have?
- 15:51SPEAKER_00: If you get somebody, if you're running Facebook ads or somebody goes to your website and they become a lead, what happens to them?
- 15:57SPEAKER_00: Okay, if they don't respond right away, are you forgetting about them?
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: Is there a drip campaign going on?
- 16:02SPEAKER_00: What does that look like?
- 16:03SPEAKER_00: What is the user experience of somebody that becomes a lead in your system?
- 16:08SPEAKER_00: For a lot of you guys, it's probably pretty shitty.
- 16:12SPEAKER_00: Okay, and it's because you're just not using the best tools or you're just not thinking things through clearly enough.
- 16:18SPEAKER_00: If you want to use the best possible tool to manage your leads, to deal with your contacts, to follow up with them over time, like a boss, you need to check out Follow Up Boss.
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- 16:33SPEAKER_00: It's not CRM just doesn't do it justice.
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- 16:51SPEAKER_00: And what happens when you dramatically improve the experience a lead has?
- 16:56SPEAKER_00: Well, they're gonna think you're a pro, they're gonna keep coming back, they're gonna want to work with you rather than being pushed away because your system, your follow-up, your emails, your messages, they all just suck.
- 17:08SPEAKER_00: Or they just don't even come because a lot of you guys just don't send them.
- 17:11SPEAKER_00: So you need follow-up boss.
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- 17:35SPEAKER_00: Uh, jump in, set it up, use it, send some, you know, get some leads coming into it and set up some drip campaigns.
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- 17:47SPEAKER_00: Follow up bus is awesome.
- 17:48SPEAKER_00: Check it out, guys.
- 17:49SPEAKER_00: So before I wrap it up, one last call to action.
- 17:53SPEAKER_00: Um only 20 spots left for our first ever Massive Agent Society live in Salt Lake City Saturday, February 5th.
- 18:02SPEAKER_00: I recommend you come in on Friday the fourth.
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: All the details over on the website, MassiveAgent Podcast.com slash live event, and make sure you book uh book it, get your ticket right away, and then um we'll see you there.
- 18:17SPEAKER_00: It's gonna be it's gonna be epic.
- 18:18SPEAKER_00: We're gonna start doing a lot more of these, but this is the first, and it's really gonna kick off a relaunch of the Massive Agent Society, and everyone in attendance is gonna get a first look at what it's gonna be like.
- 18:29SPEAKER_00: And I promise you, you're gonna have such a deep impact on your business and on your life and on um just your performance moving forward.
- 18:36SPEAKER_00: You're gonna wish that you could do this every week.
- 18:39SPEAKER_00: So we'll see you guys there.
- 18:40SPEAKER_00: Massive Agent Podcast.com slash live event.
- 18:44SPEAKER_00: Thank you guys so much for listening.
- 18:45SPEAKER_00: As always, I will see you next week.
- 18:48SPEAKER_00: Have a great one.