Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Sales Velocity Secrets: How to Generate Consistent Revenue & Fuel Your Brand
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- 0:02Hello and welcome to the show. Recently I was having a
- 0:05conversation with a potential customer or potential client and
- 0:10our discussion in our discussion a couple of juicy stuff came up.
- 0:13So I figured I'd just hop on here on the podcast real quick
- 0:17and share some of those insights.
- 0:19Now the potential customer like most of you who reach out, you
- 0:23know you have different goals that you want for your business
- 0:26and we were able to isolate the two of the key things that you
- 0:29wanted to achieve for her business was to help the brand
- 0:33and also to make consistent sales.
- 0:35So one part of the conversation was me trying to educate or
- 0:40rather set the right expectation because you've been listening to
- 0:43the podcast for any length of time.
- 0:45You will know that it's part of my business philosophy that to
- 0:49be to improve your sales and the quality of people that you're
- 0:55talking to and also to improve the customer experience, the
- 0:59client experience, you need to be able to set expectations very
- 1:03clearly and from the get from the beginning.
- 1:05Because if you set the expectations wrongly, you have
- 1:08people getting into business with you and they think that
- 1:10you're going to be able to achieve certain outcomes for
- 1:12them when you didn't promise it. And it's not something that you
- 1:17can directly achieve. Oh, by the way, if you guys hear
- 1:20any noise in the background, that's because it looks like the
- 1:23rains are here finally. So it's raining outside.
- 1:25But anyway, you know how I do it.
- 1:27I, I don't always wait for perfectly quiet conditions to
- 1:33make the recording. So I'm just hopping on the on
- 1:36the phone right now and just getting it done.
- 1:38So, yeah, so that was part of my setting expectations that brand,
- 1:43that brand is not something directly related to sales
- 1:46because there are lots of sales activities that give you the
- 1:51Intel that you need and can influence your brand perception
- 1:54in the market. But when it comes to building a
- 1:56sales framework, increasing revenue, brand is not a direct
- 2:04how I put it. Brand is not a direct, is not a
- 2:07direct focus of sales activity, let me put it that way.
- 2:10And so my advice to her was that she would hold on hold off brand
- 2:14conversations for the future at least for six months, because in
- 2:19my own opinion in working together we're going to be able
- 2:21to achieve a couple of things once we executed the sales plan.
- 2:25Now if we came up with a good sales framework and processes,
- 2:29we're going to be able to get some data.
- 2:32Sorry, excuse me, sore throat. Where was I?
- 2:37Yeah. So we're going to be able to get
- 2:38some data from executing the sales process.
- 2:42And some of that information that we're going to get will be
- 2:45the ideal customer profile. We're going to be able to figure
- 2:48out who her ideal customers are. That is either the people that
- 2:51she makes the most money from or the people that she has the most
- 2:54fun working with. Either way, if there's an
- 2:57overlap between those two, then those are definitely the people
- 2:59that we should be running after, because there's a whole bunch of
- 3:02you who are in business who have no idea about who the ideal
- 3:07customer they should be chasing. So I told her that in a couple
- 3:11of months, we're going to be able to figure out the ideal
- 3:13customer profile, narrow down her value proposition.
- 3:16That's the value that she brings to the market, why people love
- 3:18doing business. With her.
- 3:19We would have figured out the sales channels that she works
- 3:23best with and also figured out her style of interaction and her
- 3:29voice. Now I said all of these things
- 3:32would be necessary for the brand conversations that she's going
- 3:35to be having when she gets a brand person later on, you know,
- 3:38six months from now. And also if she starts talking
- 3:41to a public relations person. So I told her I'll hold it off,
- 3:44let's run these sales things first.
- 3:46These are the benefits that we're going to be able to get
- 3:48when we execute the sales conversation and sorry, the
- 3:51sales frameworks. And then when you now start
- 3:55having conversations with brand people, things are going to run
- 3:58a whole lot smoothly. So if you are business owner out
- 4:01there who is thinking of engaging professionals to grow
- 4:03your business, I really don't think you should start off these
- 4:08conversations with the brand and the public relations person
- 4:11except if you already know who your ideal customer is.
- 4:15You've narrowed down your value proposition, You know what sales
- 4:19channels that you work best on and you have a firm idea of what
- 4:23your your style of interaction is, your brand, voice and all
- 4:26those sorts of things. So if you figure these out by
- 4:29yourself, then sure, no problem it makes sense to bring in the
- 4:32PR person or a brand person. But either way, I think it's not
- 4:36a bad idea to start off bringing a consultant in or professional
- 4:39in to look at things from the from the sales element.
- 4:43Now I'm not saying that sales solves everything, because
- 4:47sometimes what you have actually is a management problem.
- 4:49Maybe everything is running all right, you guys just need to
- 4:54tweak your management style or maybe do human resource concerns
- 4:56or things like that. But for most of you who are
- 4:59early stage founders or you're just recently self-employed,
- 5:03things like that, you're trying to get the business off the
- 5:05ground. The major focus for now should
- 5:07be sales, and in trying to execute on the sales process,
- 5:11you get all the information that you need to start informing the
- 5:14other thing. So it's from running sales that
- 5:16you'll be able to see whether you guys have a communication
- 5:18problem, a breakdown in management and all those sorts
- 5:20of things. Then the second part of the
- 5:22conversation that we had was second strategy.
- 5:26So a second goal because remember how the first goal was
- 5:28help the brand and the second goal was increase sales rather
- 5:32than make consistent sales. So I tried to set the
- 5:35expectation that yes, we can achieve consistent sales, but it
- 5:39is something that is effort driven and it's not something
- 5:42that you turn on a tap or you do this tip or this tactic and then
- 5:47everything works. So it's effort driven and it
- 5:50depends on the willingness, the capability and the the hard work
- 5:58that the team on ground is going to put into it.
- 6:01Because me coming in as a business development consultant
- 6:04or a sales coach or whatever in your business, there's no way
- 6:08that I'm going to be able to stand in front of the hall and
- 6:11do some magic and then your profits will increase.
- 6:13I'm going to be having conversations with you guys.
- 6:16I'll be trying to coach your people through certain things
- 6:19and we'll try to execute on the framework that we agree upon to
- 6:22grow your business. But The thing is, if you guys
- 6:24are not willing to put in the work, then there's no how that
- 6:27the organization is going to turn around because there's no
- 6:29how. I mean, I'm not Superman.
- 6:30I'm not going to come into your organization and you know
- 6:33because I'm so smart, I'm going to start doing this, doing this
- 6:36and then your business is going to now thrive overnight.
- 6:39It's effort driven. If you guys are not willing to
- 6:41put in the work, nothing is going to move.
- 6:43And to try and flesh that out, I introduced her to the concept of
- 6:47something called the sales Velocity.
- 6:49Spoken about it on the podcast, but I think that was maybe in
- 6:52the first year of the podcast. I think right now we're over
- 6:55year three, maybe heading into year four, and we currently have
- 6:58over 810 episodes. So if you're new to the podcast,
- 7:01there's lots of good juicy stuff over here.
- 7:03After you're done listening to this episode, skip back.
- 7:07You have 810 at the very least that you can go back and learn
- 7:10lots of interesting stuff on. Oh, by the way, I noticed that
- 7:15people who reach out to me on LinkedIn, WhatsApp, people
- 7:20discovered the podcast. I noticed that a whole bunch of
- 7:22you seem to, what's that word binge.
- 7:26You guys seem to binge on episodes.
- 7:28And yeah, that's not a bad idea to take the episodes, download,
- 7:31download a whole bunch of them binge, and then listen, using
- 7:34them as learning opportunities. And I really think that that's
- 7:37the best way to make use of podcast.
- 7:39Now. It doesn't have to be my own
- 7:40podcast because there are other sales podcasts out there.
- 7:44Nigerian. OK, well, I haven't come across
- 7:46another Nigerian podcast. This is Ghanaian dude.
- 7:49What's his name? Paul Fo.
- 7:51Then there's also of course the usual names, the UK and in the
- 7:58US. So.
- 7:58But I really think that this is the best way to take advantage
- 8:00of them. So take it, binge it, listen,
- 8:03make notes, go out and try. So yeah, sales velocity,
- 8:07something I've spoken about on this podcast, something in
- 8:10sometime in the past, a couple of years ago, maybe 2-3 years
- 8:13back. So I introduced her to the
- 8:15concept of sales velocity. And the velocity just answers
- 8:18the question, how much, how much business am I doing, How well is
- 8:24the sales chugging along? And so to figure out the sales
- 8:28velocity, the answer to the question is you have to look at
- 8:30the number of things. So sales velocity is determined
- 8:34by the number of opportunities. That's how many people are you
- 8:37talking to? Then the deal size, how much
- 8:40money is on the table? How much money are you trying to
- 8:42close to close per client? Then the win rate.
- 8:46If you talk to a bunch of people, how much business do you
- 8:48close? So if you talk to 10 people, do
- 8:50you end up doing business with eight or with three or maybe
- 8:53with one? And then we'll also have to look
- 8:55at the sale cycle, which is how long does it take you to close
- 8:58that business? Does it take you 3 weeks to tour
- 9:01somebody and win the business or does it take you six months to
- 9:04pursue the person or pursue rather to pursue the person and
- 9:08then win the business? Now sales cycle, it depends,
- 9:11depends on what it is that you're trying to achieve.
- 9:14If you're going to the market to buy a Gucci, the sales cycle is
- 9:17like, I don't know, 5 minutes 'cause you get there, how much
- 9:22it tells you is 3500 per cup. You guys are go and then you buy
- 9:255 minutes, you're done. If you're buying a house on the
- 9:27other hand, sales cycle much longer.
- 9:30But these are the sorts of things that we look at when
- 9:32we're talking about sales velocity.
- 9:33You know, how healthy are the sales?
- 9:34How much money are you guys making?
- 9:36Also, one moment. The kids need my attention.
- 9:39I'll be right back. All right, guys, I'm terribly
- 9:44sorry about that. Making this recording late into
- 9:47the night at home as usual. So the kids needed something.
- 9:50So I had to stop. And yeah, we'll sort that out.
- 9:54OK. Now I was at sales velocity.
- 9:57Yeah, that's where we were. And I spoke to you guys about
- 10:01the different elements involved in sales velocity.
- 10:03That's I'm trying to figure out your sales velocity, how was the
- 10:08health of all the sales activity, how much money do we
- 10:11expect to bring in all those sorts of things.
- 10:13So the elements again are the number of opportunities.
- 10:16So how many people are we talking to the deal size, how
- 10:20much money do we expect to get out of this transaction, the win
- 10:22rate, how many people do we end up doing business with and then
- 10:25the sales cycle. So I was talking about how if
- 10:28you want to achieve consistent sales, it's effort driven.
- 10:31So it's not about the the strength of the consultant that
- 10:34you bring in, but how much effort that your team is willing
- 10:36to put in. So let's look at the individual
- 10:38elements, a number of opportunities.
- 10:41So that means if you call me in to speak to your organization or
- 10:46let's say you're a solo person and so you know I'm over at your
- 10:49office, you know you and me, we're chatting live, direct.
- 10:54We're not going to make any progress.
- 10:55If at the end of the day, you're just not putting in the numbers,
- 10:59you're not putting in the work. Because the number one thing for
- 11:02sales velocities, number of opportunities.
- 11:04If you're only talking to one person per month, you can see
- 11:07that sales velocity, the scope for that is limited.
- 11:11The person who is talking to five opportunities a month, you
- 11:14see that there's a difference between talking to five
- 11:16prospects a month or talking to one.
- 11:19Then again, the person who is discipline enough to talk to
- 11:22maybe 150. Now for a solo printer, you're
- 11:24just starting off business yourself.
- 11:26Chances are you're probably not going to be talking to 100
- 11:28people the month, but you get my idea.
- 11:31If you're talking to only one person a month, if you're
- 11:34talking to 10 people a month, that's a probability thing.
- 11:37The chances go up. So yeah, so you have to put in
- 11:42the effort. How many people are you guys
- 11:44talking to every day, every week?
- 11:46And the deal size, it's not just talking to people who have to be
- 11:49talking with people and then looking at doing some good
- 11:52transactions here. Now of course, you know, there's
- 11:54some things that come per industry that you just take
- 11:56because, you know, you guys pay the bills, as in you just have
- 12:00to make do. So like back in the wedding
- 12:02photography days, you know, I'm not going to front.
- 12:06I've spoken about it before. My first wedding I did it for
- 12:0850K and executing the whole thing plus transport was 47
- 12:13grand. So you can see that that was not
- 12:15really a good deal 'cause I only made 3K on that.
- 12:18But The thing is you know sometimes nothing is coming in
- 12:22at all and so you know anyhow, anyhow let me just take this
- 12:27deal at least let me just see 10K, let me see 20K.
- 12:30So yeah, that happens, but we should be looking at number of
- 12:33opportunities and we should be looking at good deal size and
- 12:36then we should try to optimize, optimize our win rate.
- 12:39So if we're talk to 10 people and we're doing business with
- 12:43two, you know even next month we're able to increase it and we
- 12:46talked to 10 people who do business with three or four,
- 12:49then of course you know things improve.
- 12:51So yeah, sales velocity, these are the things that go into
- 12:56looking at how what is the speed or the acceleration that your
- 13:01business is making when it comes to sales and it's purely effort
- 13:06driven. So whether you guys call in me
- 13:09or some other person just know that there's nobody that can
- 13:12come in and do the magic. At the end of the day it's all
- 13:14going to be you and these are the things we're going you have
- 13:16to be paying attention to. How many people are you talking
- 13:19to? All the people that you're
- 13:20talking to? How many of those deals are good
- 13:23deals? And don't worry, everybody has
- 13:25to take all those in all those cherry weighted deals.
- 13:28You know as in Shah, let me just manage, let me just at least let
- 13:32me use, let me see something and buy credit or see something and
- 13:35buy fuel or buy pure water, you know that that kind of thing.
- 13:38So how many people am I talking to?
- 13:40What's the size of the deal? And then how many people are,
- 13:44how many people am I closing? A lot of that it is going to be
- 13:48determined by you and how much effort that you're willing to
- 13:50put to the table, bring to the table.
- 13:53So that's it. Summary conversation with a
- 13:55potential client. These are some of the juicy
- 13:57Nuggets that I think will be will come in handy for a bunch
- 14:01of you listening to the show right now.
- 14:04So if you want to solve sales problems, sorry, brand problems,
- 14:07the sales consultant might not directly help you with that.
- 14:11But working with the sales consultant, you're definitely
- 14:12going to get some good value because you're going to be able
- 14:15to figure out your value proposition, your ideal client,
- 14:18the sales channels you work with, your brand voice.
- 14:21Then when you start talking to your brand person, you guys are
- 14:23going to make huge progress because you work with the sales
- 14:25guy 1st. And so that's why I advocate
- 14:28sales first before other things. By the way, like I said, it's
- 14:31contextual. For those of you who already
- 14:33have solid businesses up and running, standard operating
- 14:36procedures, blah blah blah, some of your problems might be cash
- 14:39flow problems. So you shouldn't be talking to a
- 14:40sales problem, sales professional.
- 14:43Some of your problems might be management problems, so you
- 14:46shouldn't be talking to a sales professional.
- 14:47So it's all contextual then consistent sales to get.
- 14:52That all depends on the kind of effort that you're going to
- 14:55bring, you're going to bring to the enterprise, so you guys
- 14:59ought to get ready. Talk to lots of people or as
- 15:02many people as you can. Make sure that the deals are
- 15:05nice, juicy deals. Don't worry.
- 15:07We all take all those small, small deals just to get by.
- 15:10It happens whether you're a wedding photographer or you're a
- 15:13lawyer or you're a tailor. It happens.
- 15:15And then you try and increase the number of deals that you end
- 15:18up closing. So it's been over 15 minutes, so
- 15:21let me bring it to the close here.
- 15:22Thank you very much for listening to the show.
- 15:24My name is Tavishima Ayede. I'm the host.
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- 15:54That's for those of you who are not Nigerian.
- 15:56Thanks for your time and attention.
- 15:57I'll catch you guys at the next recording.