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The Classroom Can’t Teach You What a Client Will · Speaking of Supply Chain

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Speaker 1: Make connections and keep them for as long as you can.
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Speaker 1: College is great to learn the process of learning, when
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Speaker 1: to take notes, how to retain information. I think I
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Speaker 1: learned most of the skills I use on a daily
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Speaker 1: basis on the job itself. But one thing that I wish,
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Speaker 1: even like in my previous internships and previous work experiences
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Speaker 1: was I wish that I made more connections during my
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Speaker 1: time to different places and that I kept them for
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Speaker 1: longer because, you know, especially in consulting, it's the people business, right?
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Speaker 1: Who you know, What kind of relationships you have defines
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Speaker 1: a lot of what your success can be in your career.
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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to Speaking of Supply Chain. I'm your host,
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Speaker 2: Ellen Wood. Early in a career, there's a big difference
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Speaker 2: between learning how something is supposed to work and experiencing
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Speaker 2: what happens when theory meets the real world. Today, we're
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Speaker 2: talking with colleagues who joined Meebok early in their careers
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Speaker 2: about that transition, what they expected, what surprised them, how
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Speaker 2: they've learned, and how they're beginning to build their own expertise.
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Speaker 2: Joining me today for the discussion are Jack Froletic, Mark Rapp,
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Speaker 2: and Jennifer Gilman. Welcome, everyone, to the show.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 1: Thank you. Happy to be here.
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Speaker 2: Jack, why don't you introduce yourself first?
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Speaker 1: Sure. I'm Jack Froletic. I went to the University of
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Speaker 1: Notre Dame, and I majored in business, so it was
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Speaker 1: like a management degree with a finance concentration. Interesting.
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Speaker 2: Mark, what about you?
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Speaker 4: My name is Mark Rapp. I graduated from Purdue University,
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Speaker 4: boiler up. and I studied industrial engineering there.
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Speaker 1: Wonderful.
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Speaker 2: And Jennifer?
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Speaker 3: I went to Indiana University, as you can see from
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Speaker 3: the background, and I studied supply chain management and business analytics.
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Speaker 2: Wonderful. So that's quite an array of different practices that
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Speaker 2: you guys have studied. Let's jump right in. Jack, starting
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Speaker 2: at the beginning, when you're finishing college, there are A
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Speaker 2: lot of possible directions that your career can take, especially
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Speaker 2: for you. You had a rather broad area of study.
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Speaker 2: So that really first decision of where you're going to
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Speaker 2: go with that can be huge. So when you were
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Speaker 2: thinking about what you wanted to do in your first
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Speaker 2: professional job, what were you looking for in the first place?
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Speaker 2: And what made Meebok, what got us on your radar
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Speaker 2: in the first place?
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Speaker 1: Sure. Well, I think for sure I was looking to
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Speaker 1: get into consulting. I liked the idea of working on
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Speaker 1: multiple different projects, uh, being in a very dynamic environment.
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Speaker 1: I think it's an environment where you learn a lot
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Speaker 1: very quickly as well. Uh, so most of my, yeah,
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Speaker 1: most of my interviews were, uh, consulting related. And I
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Speaker 1: think what stood out to me with Meebok was two things.
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Speaker 1: I think one was the work I could see myself
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Speaker 1: doing at the work, uh, Meebok does. And two was
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Speaker 1: the people and the culture. Uh, during the interview process,
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Speaker 1: we had a, uh, a case study that we did.
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Speaker 1: I think it was equivalent to kind of like a
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Speaker 1: network design project. And I really enjoyed that. So that
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Speaker 1: was helpful in helping me see that I would like
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Speaker 1: doing the work. And I also had a lot of
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Speaker 1: time to talk with different people during my interview. You know,
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Speaker 1: you have, we had a structured interview, I think with
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Speaker 1: like three different sections, but there were kind of like
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Speaker 1: these 20 minute breaks in the middle and you get
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Speaker 1: to go talk to different people of all the different
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Speaker 1: levels who are already in the company. And from those conversations,
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Speaker 1: I think I figured that the culture at Meapop was
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Speaker 1: one where I would fit very well. And that's kind
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Speaker 1: of what led me to join Miwok.
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Speaker 2: Interesting that the hoops we made you jump through were
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Speaker 2: what you liked most about the process. Right, exactly. And
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Speaker 2: of course, choosing the opportunity is one thing, but then
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Speaker 2: you actually have to do the work. So Mark, what
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Speaker 2: surprised you most about the difference between studying supply chain
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Speaker 2: or engineering or analytics and actually solving those problems for
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Speaker 2: actual clients?
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Speaker 4: When we at Purdue Industrial Engineering, they always preach the
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Speaker 4: concept of learning how to solve problems. And I think
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Speaker 4: that's a very beneficial throughout my degree. I think that's
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Speaker 4: something that I really learned. However, those problems are usually
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Speaker 4: pretty static in a pretty static environment. You have a
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Speaker 4: couple of months to take a course and then, you know,
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Speaker 4: those problems aren't going to change versus clients or the
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Speaker 4: real world experience, you know, hey, we need this tomorrow,
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Speaker 4: but the numbers are actually flipped. It's a completely different environment.
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Speaker 4: If a teacher or professor were to do that in
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Speaker 4: an assignment, I think the entire class would be writing
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Speaker 4: the dean or a counselor or something along those lines.
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Speaker 4: So that's something that I think so, Ellen.
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Speaker 2: I think there'd be a lot.
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Speaker 4: Of issues with that. So that's something I've definitely noticed
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Speaker 4: is kind of, it's an ever-changing environment here at Meebok,
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Speaker 4: but it keeps us on our toes.
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Speaker 1: It keeps it exciting.
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Speaker 4: Whereas if you had that in the classroom, there could
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Speaker 4: be a lot of emails being sent.
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Speaker 2: I think that might be going a little too far.
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Speaker 2: I think that we probably could bring some of that
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Speaker 2: into the classroom. But I mean, there is a point.
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Speaker 2: There are some things that the classroom just cannot prepare
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Speaker 2: you for about real life and these professional roles.
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Speaker 4: And I will say, Ellen, I'm very thankful. And I
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Speaker 4: think Purdue did a good job. It's just if you
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Speaker 4: put in all those different scenarios into one environment, it
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Speaker 4: causes way too much confusion. especially in a structured classroom.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be difficult to teach in a large
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Speaker 2: group setting. I think the smaller groups that we have
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Speaker 2: for our individual classes every year here at Meebok, our
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Speaker 2: analyst classes, do kind of a really good job of
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Speaker 2: getting you onboarded and prepared for that transition because there's
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Speaker 2: an important shift of feeling like you're there to learn
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Speaker 2: at school, you're there to learn, versus the feeling of,
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Speaker 2: having to contribute to the operations of some of these
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Speaker 2: major companies that we work with. Jennifer, let's hear from you.
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Speaker 2: Was there a project or a moment early on in
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Speaker 2: your career when you realized, whoa, I have something to contribute,
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Speaker 2: I have something to say, rather than just I'm still
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Speaker 2: new and learning from everybody else around me?
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Speaker 3: The interesting thing about working at Meebok is that Almost
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Speaker 3: every single project that you're on, there is something to
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Speaker 3: be learned and you always discover new things about yourself.
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Speaker 3: And obviously, there's a lot more responsibility that you need
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Speaker 3: to take within these projects because the project team is
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Speaker 3: very small. You're working with very large companies and you
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Speaker 3: have to take on a lot of responsibility. But I
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Speaker 3: think one of my first projects at Meebok was trying
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Speaker 3: to implement a yard management system. And prior to working here, obviously,
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Speaker 3: I've never... had any experience in that. So the challenge
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Speaker 3: here was we had to go on site to go
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Speaker 3: live the system. And it was only me and another manager.
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Speaker 3: It was this humongous site. We arrived at the site
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Speaker 3: at around 6 p.m. They were using an Excel-based system
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Speaker 3: and they were going to a full tablet-based system where
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Speaker 3: you could visualize the entire yard. And it was just
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Speaker 3: a full night of just me and a bunch of
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Speaker 3: people older than me who knows more than me. Maybe
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Speaker 3: not about the system, but just how the yard operates.
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Speaker 3: And I had to convince them that the new system
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Speaker 3: that we're giving them is going to be better than
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Speaker 3: their old system. It's going to make their jobs easier.
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Speaker 3: And on the spot, I realized that I had a
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Speaker 3: lot more capacity to adapt within these situations than I
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Speaker 3: realized before. So just so many projects and opportunities that
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Speaker 3: I've been given, and it's helped me grow a lot
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Speaker 3: throughout my career here.
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Speaker 2: Did that change your confidence going into that next project then?
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Speaker 3: Absolutely. Like it was I mean, just working with people
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Speaker 3: older than you, it gave me so much more insight into, well,
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Speaker 3: when I'm within a pressure cooker, I can actually react
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Speaker 3: well rather than, you know, wondering when this happens, what
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Speaker 3: am I actually going to do?
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Speaker 2: So I mean, everyone has those those situations where all
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Speaker 2: of a sudden, you know, you are under pressure to
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Speaker 2: to deliver in your role. But I think it's very
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Speaker 2: gratifying to have those quick wins and those opportunities to
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Speaker 2: prove yourself early. And early in career, you don't know
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Speaker 2: what you don't know. So, Mark, how have more experienced
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Speaker 2: colleagues helped you to develop that judgment of understanding what
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Speaker 2: you need to learn and not just the technical skills?
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Speaker 4: That's a good question, Ellen. And that's definitely something that's
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Speaker 4: been new ever since I've started with Meebok. And something
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Speaker 4: I've appreciated is that these colleagues that have been here
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Speaker 4: for a lot longer than I have, they've really let
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Speaker 4: me fail. They've let me go through the end-to-end way
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Speaker 4: of thinking about a problem, thinking about an issue, and
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Speaker 4: helping me kind of develop my own thoughts, own path
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Speaker 4: of thinking, and You know, sometimes I get a new solution,
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Speaker 4: sometimes where I'm going is a rabbit hole that I
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Speaker 4: need to be dug out of. But they're a helping
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Speaker 4: hand in those situations. But they also kind of let
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Speaker 4: me do my thing with with some guidance, obviously, as well.
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Speaker 4: So I really like the the aspect of kind of
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Speaker 4: letting me go, letting me letting me fly almost, I'd say,
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Speaker 4: trying to grow some wings out here.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And being challenged. I love the way you put that,
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Speaker 2: letting you fail, because that's I mean, that's how we
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Speaker 2: learn the best is is from our failures. And it's,
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Speaker 2: you know, just like with with kids, it's easier to
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Speaker 2: let them fail when the stakes are small so that
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Speaker 2: when the stakes are big, they know what they're what
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Speaker 2: they're in for. And it's it's not quite as scary.
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Speaker 2: That's that's really insightful from you.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 4: And I really like what you said, knowing when to fail.
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Speaker 4: You know, maybe on a client call isn't necessarily the
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Speaker 4: best spot for that teaching moment, but maybe an internal meeting,
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Speaker 4: a workshop, working through data set problems. So that's something
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Speaker 4: that's been very beneficial early on in my career with Meebok.
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Speaker 4: And I'm very appreciative of it because, you know, you
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Speaker 4: only you only learn by failing.
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Speaker 2: So that's true. Well, I hope you can learn by
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Speaker 2: other ways, too. But yes, failure is is a very,
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Speaker 2: very strong teacher.
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Speaker 4: One hundred percent.
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Speaker 2: So Jack, you have had some exposure to some different projects,
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Speaker 2: different industries, different disciplines and colleagues, because you've been here
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Speaker 2: just a little bit longer than Jennifer and Mark. How
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Speaker 2: has that variety influenced the kind of consultant that you're becoming?
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Speaker 1: Well, I think for me, I've been very fortunate in
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Speaker 1: that regard because I'm in the innovation practice. And what
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Speaker 1: that means is most of our projects are either new
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Speaker 1: and innovative services within the industry or there are emerging practices.
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Speaker 1: which means that none of our projects look the same
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Speaker 1: and a lot of our projects we're doing for the
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Speaker 1: very first time. So even the projects where we're offered
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Speaker 1: the same service within innovation, it's always a different site.
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Speaker 1: There's always different considerations. There's always a different challenge that
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Speaker 1: we have to face every time. And I think what
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Speaker 1: that has helped me do is it's helped me be
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Speaker 1: very dynamic. It's helped me learn a lot of new
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Speaker 1: skills very quickly because you kind of have to in
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Speaker 1: order to adapt to those kind of emerging practices and
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Speaker 1: those projects. Uh, and it's been really interesting to see
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Speaker 1: kind of the future of think a lot of the
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Speaker 1: consulting services that are being offered. I think, I mean,
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Speaker 1: I think a lot of, I think all of our
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Speaker 1: work at Meebok in all the practices is innovative, but
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Speaker 1: in particularly any innovation practice, we're seeing a lot of the,
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Speaker 1: the new services, kind of what the future of the
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Speaker 1: services will be like. And I think that's been very
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Speaker 1: interesting to be a part of. Uh, I've also had
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Speaker 1: the opportunity to work with a lot of our colleagues
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Speaker 1: in Montreal, cause that's where a lot of that practice, uh,
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Speaker 1: sits and it's been interesting kind of learning about different cultures,
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Speaker 1: different ways of working. even being able to travel to
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Speaker 1: Montreal and see our office there and see a different
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Speaker 1: part of the world. And I think overall, from a
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Speaker 1: collaborative perspective, it makes it... It's taught me a lot
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Speaker 1: about being in collaborative environments with people that may work
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Speaker 1: differently than me or how to contribute kind of in
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Speaker 1: that environment of different viewpoints, for sure.
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Speaker 2: Well, and I know you mentioned Montreal and traveling and
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Speaker 2: working with different colleagues, but I remember your first... client
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Speaker 2: project travel. And that was an interesting story. It is
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Speaker 2: not at all usual. I mean, a lot of times
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Speaker 2: our client project travel is domestic. There's occasional cross-border, but
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Speaker 2: you went somewhere really interesting. Tell us about that.
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Speaker 1: Sure. Yeah, my first client project was in South Africa.
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Speaker 1: So about a 20-hour flight, 20 hours of flying away.
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Speaker 1: We were there for two weeks doing site visits and
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Speaker 1: getting ready, kind of setting the base for that project. Um,
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Speaker 1: had to learn a lot about the metric system coming
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Speaker 1: from America. Cause you know, we, it's not something that,
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Speaker 1: that we're really taught, uh, super intuitively. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And as someone who, who wanted consulting from the beginning,
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Speaker 2: not necessarily supply chain, but consulting that had to have
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Speaker 2: been a fantastic win for you. Like just, I made it.
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Speaker 1: It was a great experience. Uh, and I mentioned like
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Speaker 1: working with people who have kind of different viewpoints and
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Speaker 1: different ways of working. Uh, that was definitely a huge
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Speaker 1: part of that project because there were certain elements of
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Speaker 1: their operation that, uh, were specific to South Africa that
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Speaker 1: we had to take into account. Uh, part of that,
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Speaker 1: part of the downsides as well is that you, you're
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Speaker 1: working on a different time zone. So it may be
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Speaker 1: some early mornings and some late nights, uh, but all
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Speaker 1: part of the process. Yep.
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Speaker 2: There's growing pains.
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Speaker 1: There's growing pains.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 1: Um, but yeah, it was a, it was an unforgettable
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Speaker 1: experience for sure. Uh, and again, it taught me a
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Speaker 1: lot about working with people. in different viewpoints and being
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Speaker 1: able to adapt solutions, particularly tailored to the client, because
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Speaker 1: there was a lot of specific criteria that we had
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Speaker 1: to prepare for that for sure.
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Speaker 2: Interesting, which brings us naturally to what comes next. And
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Speaker 2: that is that early career development for you guys isn't
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Speaker 2: only about how far you've already come and all the
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Speaker 2: great things you've gotten to do, but recognizing how much
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Speaker 2: there is still to learn. So Jennifer, when you think
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Speaker 2: about where you're going to be in two to three years.
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Speaker 2: What do you want to be able to do that
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Speaker 2: you're still learning that you haven't figured out yet? And
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Speaker 2: what is it that you think about the work that
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Speaker 2: you're doing that's going to help you get there?
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Speaker 3: Well, my personal goal for the next two, three years
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Speaker 3: would be to start being able to lead teams. And
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Speaker 3: I think the good thing about Meebok is that the
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Speaker 3: overall structure of the organization is very flat. So you're
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Speaker 3: also doing project work. So you're always on different teams.
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Speaker 3: You're always getting to know new managers, directors, sometimes even
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Speaker 3: work with the CEO. So there's so many opportunities for
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Speaker 3: me to just observe what the directors are doing, what
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Speaker 3: the CEO is doing, what my managers are doing, how
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Speaker 3: the PMs are leading different projects, depending on the client.
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Speaker 3: So these are just little things that I want to
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Speaker 3: continue picking up throughout the way as I do more
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Speaker 3: projects and start being able to put together my own
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Speaker 3: idea of what I would want my team to look like.
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Speaker 3: And I think the other thing here is I've also
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Speaker 3: always been very interested in what different people are good at.
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Speaker 3: I think there is inherently some people are good at
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Speaker 3: some things, maybe they could improve in other areas. But
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Speaker 3: I think when building a team, I would want to
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Speaker 3: continue learning about my colleagues and knowing what they're good at.
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Speaker 3: So when I am able to start leading my team,
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Speaker 3: I know exactly how we can make the team efficient,
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Speaker 3: run seamlessly throughout the entire project, and just complete the
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Speaker 3: project overall just in a very good tackling, good deliverables,
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Speaker 3: like everything, yeah.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't want just management. You want perfection
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Speaker 2: at it. That is a tall order, but I'm sure
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Speaker 2: that you will make some excellent strides toward achieving that.
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Speaker 3: Thank you.
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Speaker 2: So I want to finish with a question that we
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Speaker 2: are also asking some of our colleagues who are more senior.
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Speaker 2: And each of you, you know, chime in with an answer.
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Speaker 2: What do you know about building a career now? that
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Speaker 2: you wish you had known when you first started out,
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Speaker 2: when you were looking through that, you know, book of
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Speaker 2: coursework at your college and trying to figure out what
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Speaker 2: am I going to major in? What am I going
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Speaker 2: to do with my life? What do you know about
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Speaker 2: it now that you wish you had known then?
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Speaker 1: The biggest thing for me is make connections and keep
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Speaker 1: them for as long as you can. I think in
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Speaker 1: terms of learning, I mean, college was great to learn
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Speaker 1: the process of learning, which is, you know, when to
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Speaker 1: take notes, how to retain information. I think I learned
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Speaker 1: most of skills I use on a daily basis in
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Speaker 1: on the job itself. But one thing that I wish,
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Speaker 1: even like in my previous internships and previous work experiences
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Speaker 1: was I wish that I made more connections during my
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Speaker 1: times in different places, and that I kept them for longer, because,
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Speaker 1: you know, especially in consulting, it's all it's the people business, right?
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Speaker 1: You know, who you know, you know, who you know,
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Speaker 1: exactly who you know, and what what kind of relationships
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Speaker 1: you have defines a lot of what your success can
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Speaker 1: be in your career. So Something I've worked on, even internally,
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Speaker 1: trying to build as many relationships as possible. And it's
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Speaker 1: something that I think is super important from a career
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Speaker 1: building perspective. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: And that is an old sage business adage of it's
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Speaker 2: not what you know, it's who you know.
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Speaker 3: Exactly.
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Speaker 2: And especially in a consulting situation like ours, that's what
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Speaker 2: leads you toward getting new projects or finding new ideas
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Speaker 2: or recruiting that next coworker that you're going to have
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Speaker 2: on your project team. So Jennifer, how about you? What
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Speaker 2: do you wish you had known when you were just
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Speaker 2: a freshman at IU?
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Speaker 3: Well, I would say to continue to stay curious and
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Speaker 3: have fun during the process. So I think, well, throughout
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Speaker 3: my freshman years or just going through college, there's just
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Speaker 3: so many information to be learned. And I think especially
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Speaker 3: when you're young, it's very important that you Go through
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Speaker 3: all the different possibilities that you could potentially be doing
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Speaker 3: because you don't want to get to, you know, 45
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Speaker 3: and decide maybe I want to go a different path
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Speaker 3: and I wish I would have done something else before.
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Speaker 3: And the part with staying curious is just to keep
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Speaker 3: your mind open to the different possibilities that you could
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Speaker 3: be picking up, especially working in Meebok too. You get, again,
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Speaker 3: you get to pick different projects that you want to
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Speaker 3: be working on. You could be in the process of
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Speaker 3: an IT team. It could be an innovation. You could
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Speaker 3: be within our supply chain modeling team. There's so many
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Speaker 3: different possibilities that you could be doing. So it's definitely
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Speaker 3: just to keep an open mind, stay curious. If you
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Speaker 3: have a question, go try to ask the 10 whys
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Speaker 3: to figure out exactly what you want to know. And ultimately,
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Speaker 3: hopefully you start having a better picture of what you
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Speaker 3: want to do in the future and what you want
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Speaker 3: to continue to learn and develop.
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Speaker 1: Excellent.
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Speaker 2: I love that. I love that because I'm always curious.
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Speaker 2: I'm always learning something. I live by the motto that
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Speaker 2: you need to learn something new every day. So I
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Speaker 2: love that perspective. Mark, what about you? What do you
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Speaker 2: wish you had known when you started out?
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'd say really understanding the aspect that there's never
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Speaker 4: a closed door. You know, sometimes that door can always
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Speaker 4: be slightly open. For example, I was looking at joining
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Speaker 4: a consulting club in college, had to pick another club
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Speaker 4: commitment over that. And with consulting internships, you know, if
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Speaker 4: you don't get the big one or what exactly you're
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Speaker 4: looking for, for reference, I decided to go and do
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Speaker 4: automotive throughout my college internships. And so I was kind
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Speaker 4: of thinking, you know, once I did that, I was like, oh,
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Speaker 4: I'm going to be doing automotive for the rest of
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Speaker 4: my life. I'm never going to do consulting again. You know,
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Speaker 4: I've got the next 40 years of my life planned out.
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Speaker 4: And that's just not the case at all. You know,
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Speaker 4: we live or we work in an environment where, you know,
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Speaker 4: you get experience with different industries. And that's really what
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Speaker 4: I enjoy about consulting with getting that expertise, working on
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Speaker 4: different projects. But, you know, that that door was slightly
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Speaker 4: open and I opened it back up and I went
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Speaker 4: through it. So I'm thankful for that. And in kind
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Speaker 4: of that way of thinking of, hey, you know, never,
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Speaker 4: never count yourself out of a possibility because once you
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Speaker 4: count yourself out, I mean, that's it's over at that point.
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Speaker 4: So always, always keep an open mind.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's all psychological. Don't psych yourself out. Even if
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Speaker 2: it wasn't your thing initially, you may find that it
20:45
Speaker 2: is in the right positioning, in the right situation, that
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Speaker 2: that's exactly what you want to do. And I'm glad
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Speaker 2: that you found that here. What's interesting in all of
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Speaker 2: those answers is that starting a career isn't about having
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Speaker 2: everything figured out. It isn't about knowing exactly what you
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Speaker 2: want to do and exactly where you want to go
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Speaker 2: and making the goal and getting there. It's about trying things,
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Speaker 2: finding an environment where you can contribute, where you can
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Speaker 2: learn from other people that have that deeper experience. And
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Speaker 2: over time, through trial and error, develop the judgment to
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Speaker 2: solve these increasingly complex problems. And you've got your whole
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Speaker 2: career in front of you to figure out where you
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Speaker 2: want to take that next. Thank you each for sharing
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