Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / How to Increase Your Closing Rate Without Being Pushy
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Unfortunately, today's episode
- 0:05is going to be a very long one, but I'll try and breeze through
- 0:08as quick as possible. Now, for the benefit of those of
- 0:11you who are joining us today for the first time, I'm going to go
- 0:14over a little recap about what we did yesterday because it, of
- 0:18course, it ties into what it is that we're discussing today.
- 0:21So we are currently looking at how to increase your closing
- 0:26rate. OK, you know what, I'm not going
- 0:30to do a summary of the episode that we did yesterday because we
- 0:33have a lot of things to talk about today.
- 0:35So this is your first time of listening to the podcast, and
- 0:37you want to get the background to the ideas I'm going to
- 0:40express here on how to increase your closing rate.
- 0:43Then after you're done listening to this episode, just listen to
- 0:46yesterday's episode and you'll be able to stitch both things
- 0:49together and have a fuller perspective about how everything
- 0:53works. But I capped off yesterday's
- 0:55episode by saying that if you wanted to increase your closing
- 0:58rate, which is the amount of business that you do, you know,
- 1:03per 10 or per 100 customers, you know, so you talk to 10
- 1:07customers, how many people do you end up doing business with?
- 1:09You talk to 100. How many people do you end up
- 1:11doing business with on average? So that's the closing rate.
- 1:15So I capped off by saying that if you want to increase your
- 1:18closing rate, the answer is not to learn how to close the deal
- 1:23better. Because most people when they
- 1:25notice that they have a low closing rate, they start looking
- 1:27on YouTube and looking at podcasts and things like that
- 1:31and they're trying to find the magic close.
- 1:33You're trying to find that magic phrase or that magic thing that
- 1:37you will say or that you will type that will cause people to
- 1:39close better. You don't believe me?
- 1:42Check your Instagram. Just go to Instagram explore
- 1:45page and start searching there. You're going to see things like
- 1:49use this magic close to this magic phrase to close 50% more
- 1:53deals or say these three things in exactly this way to get
- 1:57people to buy from you 70% of the time and blah, blah, blah.
- 2:00And all these magic tricks, by the way, all those magic tricks,
- 2:05those tactics, they work. Yes, they do, but they work
- 2:09within the system. You have to learn the system to
- 2:13make sure that you optimize everything.
- 2:15And sometimes those things work within the system that you might
- 2:19not feel very happy applying the whole thing.
- 2:25Like for instance, all those ideas around getting people to
- 2:27say 3 consecutive yeses. So if a person you can get a
- 2:30person to say yes three consecutive times, then they'll
- 2:32say yes to to closing the deal. Yeah, those sorts of gimmicks,
- 2:37they can work. But as you can see, those are
- 2:39high pressure tactics. And if you're listening to this
- 2:41podcast, my guess is that you're not the kind of person who's
- 2:44looking for those sorts of things.
- 2:46So let's look for something that's a little bit much more
- 2:49ethical. Yes, it involves more hard work,
- 2:53but this is a way of closing more deals over time in an
- 2:57ethical manner that you will be satisfied with and that
- 3:00everybody can do. And plus, you don't have to
- 3:03remember any three magic phrases or whatever, and you don't have
- 3:07to change your personality. So the answer to increase your
- 3:12closing rate is not to learn how to close.
- 3:16Your focus should be on learning how to open deals better.
- 3:21And the rationale is this the reason why we should focus on
- 3:27opening deals better? I want to give you a couple of
- 3:29reasons why. Because closing the deal is a
- 3:33natural end result of something that something is.
- 3:37You must have had fruitful conversations in the 1st place
- 3:40with the right people. If it was a fruitful
- 3:43conversation and if the conversation was with the right
- 3:45person, you don't have to force to close.
- 3:48You only have to guide to the close and the close would take
- 3:51care of itself. Excuse me then another thing to
- 3:56bear in mind is this. The more of the right people
- 3:59that you talk to, the more deals you're going to close.
- 4:02That one is just standard. I don't think I have to confuse
- 4:06you about that. The more of the right people you
- 4:08talk to, the more deals you're going to close.
- 4:11If you aren't closing most of your deals, typically it's
- 4:14because there's a misalignment somewhere and not because you're
- 4:19not being forceful enough. So remember, fruitful
- 4:22conversations, the right people. If the deal is not closing,
- 4:25there's a misalignment. Your conversations are not
- 4:27fruitful, your conversations are not relevant.
- 4:31Or maybe you're talking to the wrong people.
- 4:33You'd have to sit down and diagnose on a case by case
- 4:35basis. But if you're not closing most
- 4:37of your deals, so excuse me recovering from a sore throat.
- 4:41So if you're not closing most of your deals, it's because there's
- 4:43a misalignment somewhere. And then finally, something that
- 4:48lots of people find surprising when they hear a, when they hear
- 4:53a sales coach talk about these sorts of things.
- 4:55But you really can't force someone to buy from you or make
- 4:58a business decision. You can't force it.
- 5:00The best you can do is to discover people's motivations
- 5:03and then align your own motivation, your own motivations
- 5:07with it. And then of course, make it
- 5:08easier for them to do what they already intend to do.
- 5:12So if you want to learn how to force people to do something to
- 5:14buy against their their concerns or their best wishes, you're not
- 5:19going to learn about it on this podcast, not this episode and
- 5:23not this podcast. So all these things that we're
- 5:26talking about now, how does this all work out in practice?
- 5:30This is how it works out in practice.
- 5:32If you want to close more deals, you have to open right?
- 5:35To open right, you should only be talking to people who are one
- 5:39interested. You should only be talking to
- 5:41people who too can afford what you have.
- 5:44And then #3 you should only be talking to people who are ready
- 5:47to make a decision anytime soon. And I hope you guys are
- 5:50beginning to see how the matrix ties in together.
- 5:53You might be talking to someone who can afford and who might be
- 5:56ready to make a decision sometime soon, but the person is
- 5:59not interested. In this case, you repeating
- 6:02magic phrases and getting them to say yes three times
- 6:07consecutively. It's not going to be a good
- 6:08outcome because if you do that three years thing, you get the
- 6:12person to buy because he can afford and but he wasn't ready
- 6:16to make a decision or sorry, he can afford.
- 6:18He's ready to make a decision, but he's not interested.
- 6:21Then that's where you get bad's remorse and bad's regret, and
- 6:24then the person ends up thinking that look, you're a scammer,
- 6:26you're unethical and this and this.
- 6:28Maybe you jazzed me or something.
- 6:30You're slick, you're smooth, you know, all kinds of things that
- 6:33end up spoiling your reputation. So just stick to only talking to
- 6:37people who are interested, people who can afford, and
- 6:40people who are ready to make a decision anytime soon.
- 6:43You stick to those three. You will find that you're able
- 6:45to just guide things to a close. You don't have to force a close.
- 6:50So now this whole thing of people who are interested, how
- 6:52do you find interested people? That is by either doing two
- 6:57things #1 prospecting. Prospecting is old school.
- 7:00I'll explain. And then #2 you do inbound,
- 7:04inbound. Inbound has always existed, yes.
- 7:07But nowadays, because of social media networks, inbound has now
- 7:12come to mean something in particular.
- 7:15But let me just explain what these things are.
- 7:18So how do you find interested people #1 prospecting.
- 7:22Prospecting is when you go physically out into the world
- 7:24where you think these people might be those people who are
- 7:27interested in your product or service.
- 7:29Then you try and initiate conversations with them for the
- 7:32sole purpose of seeing if they are interested.
- 7:34If someone is not interested, walk on by.
- 7:38If someone is interested, see if you can take them to make, if
- 7:41you can get them to take the next step or you try and figure
- 7:44out the nature of their problem and if your product or service
- 7:48can solve that problem. So for online food vendors and
- 7:52beauty vendors, the reason why I'm sticking to online food
- 7:55vendors and beauty vendors is because just like with the last
- 7:58episode or maybe two episodes back, I know that when I'm
- 8:02speaking in public, a bunch of you say that, yeah, you've
- 8:05listened to the show. But I spend most of my time
- 8:07talking about people who do things face to face and I don't
- 8:12pay attention to people who have online businesses.
- 8:15And yes, so excuse me. And yes, you guys are correct.
- 8:21I hardly pay attention to you guys.
- 8:22But it's not deliberate. It's just that I have, you know,
- 8:27when I got involved in the business space, I was a
- 8:29photographer. And then after that there was
- 8:31the commodities business with me and my brother.
- 8:35And so all the stuff I've always done has been real world.
- 8:39So when I'm thinking about business examples, I'm always
- 8:41thinking real world. Not necessarily online folks.
- 8:44But today I'm going to pay attention to you guys.
- 8:48Beauty vendors, online skin people, online food delivery
- 8:54people, those of you who sell pyjamas on Instagram or whatever
- 9:00it is. So I'll be talking about you
- 9:02guys today. So finding interesting people,
- 9:05prospecting, if you're an online food or beauty vendor on
- 9:08Instagram, then that involves going to wedding fairs or going
- 9:12to makeup fairs. If you're not ahead of these
- 9:14sorts of things, they exist, especially the makeup fair
- 9:17things. I don't think there's one in
- 9:20Abuja, but I know there's a makeup fair in Lagos.
- 9:22There's a makeup fair in the East and I've seen one happen in
- 9:25Beniu as well. And I'm not sure which other
- 9:26part of the country. So that's where makeup artist,
- 9:29glam artist, gilet people, you know, all of you get together
- 9:32and people who are interested in those sorts of things come have
- 9:36a look, you know, buy some stuff, get their makeup done and
- 9:39buy a few things. So prospecting, since it's all
- 9:42world old school, would mean that you guys have to go to
- 9:44these sorts of places to look for potential customers.
- 9:47So go and buy a booth or if you're broke, you can do that
- 9:51thing that some people do, which is go to the venue.
- 9:54You don't go inside, but then you hold your Flyers and then
- 9:56when people are walking in, you hand over you hand, you hand
- 10:00them your Flyers. This kind of behaviour is
- 10:04strongly frowned upon by the people who organize these sorts
- 10:08of things. So just know that if they find
- 10:10you, they're going to throw you out.
- 10:12But anyway, there's some people who try nevertheless.
- 10:15So go there, attend these fairs, start talking to potential
- 10:19customers. You also need to do some work,
- 10:21get better at telling people what you do, telling people the
- 10:24kind of clients that you're looking for.
- 10:25So working on your elevator page and blah, blah, blah, all those
- 10:28sorts of things. So the philosophy behind
- 10:31prospecting or the spirit behind prospecting is that you will go
- 10:36and chase after people to get your business.
- 10:39So inbound, now that is a rival business philosophy or a
- 10:44different kind of business philosophy.
- 10:46So inbound or lead generation or demand capture or whatever it is
- 10:50that you call it slightly different.
- 10:53But for the bodies of the show, let's speak about three of them,
- 10:56almost as if they are the same. So inbound is where you make
- 11:00yourself attractive so that the right customer chases after you.
- 11:04So inbound strategies, old school.
- 11:06That's for those of us who are late 70s, early 80s children
- 11:10that would have been advertising, you know, Honeywell
- 11:14noodles, bam bam, bam, bam, bam, La La.
- 11:16The goal is if children keep singing, oh, no, no, no, no,
- 11:22Honeywell. That was that was a different
- 11:24generation. My generation was Indom, so
- 11:26indom indomi, indomi indo me doodles.
- 11:30So you play that, children sing it enough, parents get
- 11:33interested, parents go and buy. That's the whole idea with
- 11:36inbound. Make yourself attractive so that
- 11:38the right customer chases after you.
- 11:40So now with social networks, there's a strategy for doing all
- 11:46of this online by content marketing, putting out useful
- 11:50content, educational content, entertaining content, working on
- 11:54your SEO, anything that you can do to make it easier for people
- 11:59to find you and to get interested.
- 12:02So the goal is make yourself attractive.
- 12:04Let people chase you, you know, not them, they rush us.
- 12:06That's the whole idea. Let people be rushing you.
- 12:09Then lead generation is also tied into inbound.
- 12:13But that just means that when you're doing all these
- 12:15activities online content marketing, videos, audio,
- 12:20YouTube, Facebook, everything, SEO, the spirit behind lead
- 12:25generation is this, that you now do some activities that cause
- 12:29people to give you their phone numbers and to give you their
- 12:32e-mail addresses. That is how you're going to
- 12:35chase after people who find you online.
- 12:38So Instagram vendors, food vendors, beauty influencers,
- 12:43lead generation would be you guys offering free consultations
- 12:47on Instagram. For instance, you might do a,
- 12:52what's that thing called? Instagram Live.
- 12:56Yeah. So you do an Instagram Live.
- 12:57Maybe it's you and your best friend.
- 12:59Maybe you, you do lipstick, your best friend does eyeshadow and
- 13:03maybe a third person who does skin or something.
- 13:06And you guys have a panel. And at the end of it, it'll be
- 13:09that. If you're interested, click
- 13:11here, drop your phone number and be eligible for free
- 13:14consultation so that we can advise you on skin routines and
- 13:18blah, blah, blah. And you organize contests and
- 13:21raffles. And to enter, people have to
- 13:23drop the e-mail address or phone number or you can drop different
- 13:25kind of lead magnets, you know, click here to get my free five
- 13:31page, five page e-book on how to analyze skin and come up with
- 13:38your perfect beauty routine, something like that.
- 13:40So people click and then they drop their e-mail address and
- 13:43their phone number. So you're trying to generate
- 13:46leads so you see how it all works together.
- 13:49Make yourself attractive so that people chase after you.
- 13:52Then start engaging in lead generation.
- 13:55Do something so that people can give you their, excuse me, their
- 13:59e-mail address and phone number and then demand capture.
- 14:03That is the part where you try and make these people who have
- 14:08been interested and who have given you their e-mail address
- 14:10and phone number, you do something that will help, excuse
- 14:16me, something that will help nurture the relationship, build
- 14:21trust and rapport, and then you also try to convert leads.
- 14:24What that means is you're offering, you make very clear
- 14:28calls to action. You tell them exactly what it is
- 14:30that you want them to do next, and you provide good
- 14:33experiences, stay top of mind and to get people to take a next
- 14:38step. The next step in this case would
- 14:41be something like come for a tasting if you're a food vendor
- 14:45and you are at a wedding show, because I've seen some caterers
- 14:49do that. I think that's a very expensive
- 14:51way to promote your business, by the way, because essentially
- 14:53you're telling people come and eat free food.
- 14:55I've never been a fan of that, but people do it.
- 14:59So come for the tasting, enter a raffle draw, come to the studio
- 15:02for consultations about your skin type, call me for free
- 15:05consultations, blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 15:08Call me for consultations on how to make your perfect wedding
- 15:11menu or the perfect food for the baby dedication and you know,
- 15:16things like that. So people who respond to all
- 15:19these call to actions, that is you doing demand capture because
- 15:24somebody's interested, you get them to take the next step.
- 15:26That is what the demand capture is about.
- 15:29Now, we've said a lot over the last 15 minutes, so let me just
- 15:32make a recap. Remember the philosophy that
- 15:35we're trying to do here that if we only spend time talking to
- 15:39people who are interested and who can afford and are ready to
- 15:44make a decision, they're closing.
- 15:45The deal is almost automatic. We've talked about a few ideas
- 15:50about how to catch people who are interested.
- 15:54So for the sake of time, let's just run quickly to how do we
- 15:59spend time only with people who can afford what it is that we
- 16:04have? This is something that I stress
- 16:08and this is something that lots of people avoid, but please, we
- 16:11cannot avoid it. Some people put it on to the
- 16:15end. You're only hurting yourself.
- 16:17The person is anxious about the price because they don't know
- 16:20anything else about your product or your service.
- 16:22So they're using price as a proxy for quality.
- 16:26Let me repeat it again. Most people don't know Jack
- 16:29about your product or your service, so they only have price
- 16:32to go on. So you talk about how nice your
- 16:35food is or how nice your paw paw skin care routine is or
- 16:38something something something. Yes, they know it's nice, but
- 16:41they don't know anything else. They're not in the field.
- 16:43The only thing they can think about is the price.
- 16:45You should be the one who brings up the pricing thing and bring
- 16:49it up early. Don't wait until the end and
- 16:53you're nervous and then you're scared and you guys have the
- 16:55awkward conversation. Bring it up early.
- 16:58So how can you make sure you're talking to people who can afford
- 17:00what it is you have? Ask them politely and ask them
- 17:04early so that you stop wasting time with people who are never
- 17:08going to buy and you get to that awkward phase where you're
- 17:11trying to get them to close the deal and there's a money
- 17:13mismatch. Let me repeat, Ask them politely
- 17:18and then ask them early. In this case, for all the people
- 17:23we've been talking about here, you know, our Instagram people,
- 17:26it's just a simple thing. You can say something like,
- 17:28well, this is how I say it because I'm more formal, but you
- 17:31don't have to say it the way that I am, but just get the
- 17:33philosophy of what I'm trying to say.
- 17:35So after you do some small Guzman, you've gone through this
- 17:38whole process, you made a small presentation.
- 17:40You just say something simple. The solutions, the items, the
- 17:44whatever, whatever we have, this we have discussed here can cost
- 17:47anything between XYZ and 123. Is this something you can afford
- 17:51now and then Keep quiet and hear what they have to say.
- 17:55Ask this question politely and ask it early.
- 17:58If the person thinks 200K for beauty routine is armed robbery,
- 18:03let us say it now that you're a thief, you're an armed robber.
- 18:07And you now know that OK, this is somebody that you have to
- 18:09weave that this person doesn't understand is not a skin
- 18:12connoisseur. And this person is not your
- 18:14ideal person. And leave the person if you ask
- 18:18it early and you say that your skin care routine is 200,000 for
- 18:21people who know what's up the black 200,000 for 20 purple.
- 18:25I beg sign me up. When can I pay you?
- 18:28So The thing is, your market already exists.
- 18:33So you should be spending most of your time looking for who
- 18:38your market in quote is instead of trying to force people to buy
- 18:43when clearly there's no you know the relationship is matched
- 18:48mismatched. You think it's not going to
- 18:49work. So ask them politely and then
- 18:52ask them early, is this something you can afford now?
- 18:55Is this something you'd like to take action soon?
- 18:57Is this in line with your budget?
- 18:59You know, simple, simple, small, small questions like that.
- 19:02When you ask the question, you wait for feedback.
- 19:05The response is going to tell you, excuse me?
- 19:08The response will tell you if these people can't afford or
- 19:10they can. It will tell you if money is a
- 19:12problem. So like I said of all this,
- 19:16you've been listening to the show for a long time.
- 19:18You know about my first wedding I was coming out fresh.
- 19:21I need to do high end so I said let me charge 400 K.
- 19:24The first bride I got on the phone, she said how much I told
- 19:26her 400K. She's like thank you, thank you,
- 19:30you want to build house? Thank you.
- 19:31And it was a really awkward conversation because I was
- 19:34trying to keep her on the phone. What she kept saying was thank
- 19:37you, thank you. You want to build house.
- 19:39It's not on top of my head. God bless your business.
- 19:43It it was a weird conversation. In fact, I wish I had recorded
- 19:46the conversation so that now with what I know, I can listen
- 19:48back on it and then not only share the conversation with you
- 19:52guys, but then try and break it down and learn some more about
- 19:55how to handle money objections. So when somebody responds like
- 20:00that, the person is not for you. Either that or your product or
- 20:03service is not as good as you think it is.
- 20:05But that's a subject for another episode.
- 20:07But for now, let's assume that you're the bomb.
- 20:09You're the best. If somebody responds like that,
- 20:11that person is not for you. Just free the matter, let it go.
- 20:15You take that person, you put the person back into lead
- 20:18nurturing sequences. Remember when we're talking
- 20:20about how you remain top of mind with social media and then
- 20:24WhatsApp and everything? So that's just the thing.
- 20:26Put the person back into that, the relationship nurturing
- 20:30sequences. Because tomorrow is another day.
- 20:33Eventually people's money problems pan out or people get
- 20:36promoted or you know, whatever things change, tomorrow is
- 20:40another day. If money is a problem, we've the
- 20:42person. If the person is interested, on
- 20:46the other hand, then you now say something like, oh, the next
- 20:52step is we need a payment for XYZ or we need a deposit for XYZ
- 20:57so we can move forward. Do you want to pay cash or do
- 21:00you want to pay transfer? Do you prefer POS or do you
- 21:02prefer OP? Which banks do you prefer making
- 21:05transfers to? You know, blah, blah, blah,
- 21:07those sorts of questions. Again, the response that you
- 21:10get, the feedback that you get will tell you whether the person
- 21:14is ready or not. Because there's some people who
- 21:15will say, yeah, 200K for purpose skin care.
- 21:18Yeah, I can do that. But then when you say, OK, my is
- 21:21it transfer all cash, she will now say, let me talk to my
- 21:24husband. So it happens.
- 21:26So you need to ask. So that would give you a sign.
- 21:31Anyway, you get the gist. You ask if the person says let
- 21:37me talk to my husband or whatever, give some other
- 21:39objection that you can't handle, don't worry tomorrow's another
- 21:42day. Put the person back in lead
- 21:44nurturing. OK man no problem, I understand,
- 21:46follow my Instagram handle blah blah blah, you know best.
- 21:49Maybe person needs to build more trust with you or more rapport
- 21:53as you guys engage over the phone or over on WhatsApp.
- 21:57But bottom line, what I'm saying is when somebody says no, you
- 21:59don't have to feel crushed. Tomorrow is another day and
- 22:03there are plenty of fish in the ocean.
- 22:05That's the right attitude. Tomorrow is another day, there's
- 22:07plenty of fish in the ocean. So you feel bad when I wake up
- 22:10tomorrow and then go fishing again.
- 22:13So when you get into these sorts of situations where you ask the
- 22:18money questions and you have a hiccup, apart from the fact that
- 22:22tomorrow is another day and there's plenty of fish in the
- 22:24ocean, the problem also might be that you may have misunderstood
- 22:28the person's situation or the person's need.
- 22:31And because of that, your proposal is wrong or not
- 22:34interesting enough or not relevant enough.
- 22:37So it's possible that person wants a purple skin care
- 22:41routine, but maybe the person thinks that all purple skin care
- 22:44routines dry out the skin and so she's worried about how to
- 22:48recapture lost moisture or something like that.
- 22:51Now, of course, not everybody's going to be elegant enough of
- 22:54sophisticated enough to put it like that.
- 22:56You're the professional. You're the one that has to be
- 22:57able to ask her more questions and be able to now figure out
- 23:00what the problem is and then give her the the right proposal.
- 23:03Would you be pop off skin remedy plus aloe Vera or whatever to
- 23:07trap in moisture? By the way, this is not my
- 23:10space. I'm just making stuff up.
- 23:12So for those of you who are beauty influencers and stuff
- 23:15like that, this is the point where you guys can stop
- 23:19frowning. I'm not mis educating the
- 23:21public. I'm just making stuff up because
- 23:23you have to fill in the example somehow.
- 23:25So whether you follow these processes or not that I've
- 23:30spoken about, it's not a good idea to ask people for money
- 23:33when you have not discussed money expectations.
- 23:36It's a bad idea. Discuss money expectations first
- 23:39with people before you start asking them for money.
- 23:43Whether you follow my process or not, stop this whole thing off.
- 23:47You discuss everything under the sun and you kind of hope that at
- 23:51the end when you say my price is 2.5 M, that they have 2.5 M to
- 23:55pay. Have the conversation early
- 23:58about whether 2.5 is realistic for them.
- 24:01If you don't, you get to that stage at the end of the
- 24:03conversation where you now feel uncomfortable, like you're being
- 24:05pushy or being rude and then things like that.
- 24:08So have gentle conversations with people to see where they
- 24:11are in the money scheme of things.
- 24:12So if you sell Balenciaga bags or is Balenciaga, is that a
- 24:16shoe? Sorry, I'm not knowledgeable on
- 24:18these things, but whatever it is, have these conversations in
- 24:22the chat and everything beforehand before you now tell
- 24:24her, OK, it's it's 60K for a bag.
- 24:26Because if you're talking to my wife, for instance, my wife will
- 24:29never pay 60K for for a handbag. She just won't.
- 24:32It doesn't mean she doesn't know what's up or it doesn't mean
- 24:35she's illiterate or it doesn't mean she's not sophisticated.
- 24:37It's just that she's not your target.
- 24:40She's not your target base. And there are some people that
- 24:43if they hear 60K for a handbag dosia that is cheap, that's 60K
- 24:47is cheap. So look for your market, don't
- 24:51waste time with somebody who's not going to buy.
- 24:53How do you know? Make sure they're interested and
- 24:56after that, have the money conversations.
- 24:59So let me repeat the thought process we're going through in
- 25:01this particular episode. In order to close the deal.
- 25:04We're trying to only talk to people who are interested.
- 25:08We figured that out. We're only trying to talk to
- 25:10people who can afford. We have gone over some ideas
- 25:14that you can use to make sure that people can afford.
- 25:18Now we also have to make sure that we're talking to someone
- 25:20who is ready to make a decision anytime soon because there are
- 25:24people who are interested and who have the money, but they're
- 25:26not ready to. They're not ready to move.
- 25:29Now we're ready. Photographers, we see this a
- 25:31lot. You meet the perfect babe.
- 25:34Sorry, bride, you meet the perfect bride.
- 25:36You guys chat, you're friendly and everything.
- 25:39And clearly Pepa rest, you know, her father is our next chairman
- 25:42or whatever, so they clearly can't afford.
- 25:45But The thing is her boyfriend just proposed last week and the
- 25:49families haven't really met, but maybe they're thinking about
- 25:53getting married in two years time or something like that.
- 25:56You know, there's some wedding photographers who hang in there.
- 25:59You think that you have a deal, but please, my brothers, you
- 26:02don't. Or sisters for female
- 26:05photographers. There is no deal there yet
- 26:08because this bride is interested.
- 26:11This bride calls from a paid off family.
- 26:13She loves your photography, but if she just got proposed to last
- 26:17week, the family has not met, the boy has not finished his
- 26:22master's. He's going to finish his
- 26:23master's next year. Realistically speaking, the
- 26:26parents who at least want him to graduate 1st and maybe, I don't
- 26:29know, get a job or something before you start talking about
- 26:32wedding dates. I mean, I don't know, could be
- 26:33any number of factors, but there's no deal.
- 26:37You take this bride, you put her in relationship, nurturing,
- 26:41that's it. When these other things start to
- 26:44materialize, when the boy takes his uncles and they go to
- 26:48Popsy's house and then they start the conversations, Now
- 26:52there's a deal that is beginning to align because bride is
- 26:55interested. Clearly she can afford and
- 26:59they've started taking some small, small steps.
- 27:01The uncles and the daddies have met and they have said, OK, the
- 27:04wedding is going to be December 2025.
- 27:08There's a date. Now there's something you can
- 27:09look towards. Now you have a deal.
- 27:12So this whole thing of are people ready to make a decision
- 27:15anytime soon? Really, really important.
- 27:17But lots of people overlook it. It's really important.
- 27:23I know that's a wedding example, but it applies to whatever it is
- 27:26that you do. Is the person ready to make a
- 27:28decision anytime soon? If somebody's talking to you
- 27:34catering, you want to know how much baby dedication, you know,
- 27:38baby's already born, but you know, to be honest, they haven't
- 27:43fixed the date or they haven't spoken to the pastor or
- 27:45anything. It's sketchy whether there's a
- 27:48deal there or not. But if somebody calls you to say
- 27:52how much jollof rice, finger food, something something,
- 27:55something baby get education and then they give you a specific
- 27:57date that is 3 three weeks ahead.
- 28:01There's a deal. There's something here.
- 28:03So we need to make sure that people are ready to make a
- 28:05decision anytime soon. Now, how do you know when
- 28:08somebody's ready to make a decision anytime soon?
- 28:10The answer is simple. If you've been following, ask
- 28:14them politely and ask them early.
- 28:19I have been in that situation where, excuse me, I'll be doing
- 28:22relationship building with your bride and chasing and pursuing.
- 28:26I get my video guy involved and then it now comes out that the
- 28:31wedding is going to be a year and a half.
- 28:34Trust me, that makes you look like an absolute idiot because
- 28:36you mobilize the boys. You think that is a big one,
- 28:38that there's money here and, and everything.
- 28:41And then, you know, the weddings a year and a half away.
- 28:44You, you look like an idiot, like you just motivated your
- 28:48whole crew for no reason. So ask politely, ask Kelly.
- 28:54And that's something that wedding planners do very well.
- 28:56Oh, congratulations, you're getting married, blah, blah,
- 28:59blah. How did you guys meet?
- 29:00Talk about that whole thing, blah, blah, blah.
- 29:02You know, rapport building. I say, oh, so when is the
- 29:03wedding date? Wedding planners don't waste
- 29:05waste time. They ask immediately.
- 29:07So when is the wedding date? You need to know if they have a
- 29:10date. OK, then urgency and readiness
- 29:14to make a decision anytime soon. The thing begins to click.
- 29:18So you guys, whatever business it is that you have, you need to
- 29:21Start learning how to do that. So for the Instagram skin care
- 29:26food vendor, you know, people, it's very simple.
- 29:30You just ask early in the process.
- 29:33Oh, Madam, so far we discussed or we, we also discussed share
- 29:36about carrot soap and point bar to see the one that will bring
- 29:40out your natural skin colour. When you say that part, you're
- 29:44just trying to recap, summarize, you know, because you always
- 29:46have to recap first of all, so that the person knows what the
- 29:51options are. Then this is where you ask the
- 29:53question, which of which of these options are you willing to
- 29:56try out? And then you wait and hear.
- 29:59When you ask, you're just trying to get them to decide on
- 30:01something and trying to get some feedback.
- 30:03If the person says that purpose sounds interesting, but let's
- 30:06try carrot soap, that is good. You've taken another step
- 30:08forward. Then you now say, OK, if we're
- 30:10going to do carrot facial treatment, it can cost anything
- 30:13between XYZ and 123 depending upon the regime.
- 30:17Is this something that's within your budget?
- 30:19Is this something you're ready to go ahead with?
- 30:21Remember when we spoke about money, Money and expectations?
- 30:27So you ask that thing and then you keep quiet.
- 30:29Let's assume for the purpose of this exercise that yes, they're
- 30:32ready to go ahead. Now whatever price you called
- 30:34XYZ 123 is within that budget. Then this is where you get to
- 30:38the timeline thing. So you now say, oh is everything
- 30:41is in order. I can get the 1st order to you
- 30:44by Tuesday next week. Is that date OK for you?
- 30:48You have now asked something very specific with the timeline.
- 30:52The person either has to say yes, or the person has to say
- 30:54no, or any number of responses. That makes you realize that you
- 31:01might have missed something in the beginning and maybe the
- 31:03person is not just just that interested just yet, but you ask
- 31:08something timeline related. Can I ship it to you Tuesday
- 31:12next week? You might be surprised with
- 31:14myself. Tuesday next week, Tuesday next
- 31:16week is fine. Now what about today?
- 31:18It happens last time. You know that you have a good
- 31:21one on your hands. So you see why this whole thing
- 31:23of urgency, timelines, decisions, all of these things
- 31:27are important. We have to be able to ask
- 31:30questions with timelines in there.
- 31:33So we know. Is this person ready to take
- 31:35action? Is this person ready to make a
- 31:37decision anytime soon? And the best one says Oh yeah
- 31:41sure Tuesday next week blah blah.
- 31:43Then this is the part where you ask for the deposit or whatever
- 31:47it is you need to do to confirm the order.
- 31:48So OK ma, no problem. So is it going to be transfer or
- 31:51POS? Just ask it, come ask it.
- 31:54Cool. If you have done everything
- 31:56before this, correct this pay, this last process, this last
- 32:00stage, collecting the money, this whole transfer or POS or
- 32:04deposit or whatever, it will just flow.
- 32:08In fact, you'll be surprised that for some people by the time
- 32:11you ask the whole timeline thing, you know, blah blah blah,
- 32:14Tuesday next, Oh yes, that Tuesday is fine.
- 32:16You're surprised that is here where the person now ask that
- 32:18oh, OK, I don't have cash on me. Can I do transfer?
- 32:21And he said, Oh yes man, no problem.
- 32:23This is my OPI account. So hope you guys are beginning
- 32:27to see how if you follow these things step by step, this final
- 32:31stage of collecting the money is going to be, I was going to say
- 32:37effortless, but let me not lie you, it's not as if it's
- 32:39effortless, but it's going to be a whole lot easier than the
- 32:42whole thing of your nervous. Should I tell her is 250 K?
- 32:46Can they afford 250K or OK she's looking like this maybe she
- 32:50doesn't have money. Instead of telling her 250K
- 32:52should I just say 180 K so that we don't haggle too much and
- 32:55then blah blah blah. If you just follow the process,
- 32:57everything is going to go fine If you follow this process or if
- 33:01you follow processes like these because you don't have to follow
- 33:05what it is that I'm preaching over here on the podcast.
- 33:07But you'll find that any business consultant or sales
- 33:11coach who is worth his or her salt has a framework and has a
- 33:14process that should be followed to make it easy to close the
- 33:17deal. So excuse me.
- 33:20So following this process or processes like these, it doesn't
- 33:24mean you're going to close every single order.
- 33:28Remember I told you guys in yesterday's episode, 100% close
- 33:31rate does not exist, so banish it from your head.
- 33:34Does not exist. So you're not going to close
- 33:37every order, but your closing rate is going to go up because
- 33:42you are only talking to people who are interested.
- 33:45You're only talking to people who can afford this.
- 33:48People are OK with the timeline. You have proposed those people
- 33:53who are not OK with the timeline or who are not interested or who
- 33:56who can't afford you, just put them back in lead nurturing.
- 33:58Continue to be following them, you know, on social media,
- 34:02WhatsApp, e-mail, whatever. One day they'll be ready to buy.
- 34:05If they never buy, it's not a problem because like I said,
- 34:08there's always more fish in the water.
- 34:10So go and keep fishing. Don't stress.
- 34:13It's just business. Then for those people who buy
- 34:16now, make sure that you do good customer service so you can ask
- 34:20these people for referrals and repeat business.
- 34:24A lot of you are doing business assuming that someone who buys
- 34:26from you today will only buy once.
- 34:29What's the point of somebody buying your your pawpaw facial
- 34:34skin care treatment? You make a margin of 10K on the
- 34:38person. What's the whole point of doing
- 34:40going through all these stress that I've spoken about?
- 34:42Now the person only buys once you make your 10K match and then
- 34:45that's it. Then tomorrow you're now looking
- 34:46for a fresh person. Doesn't it make sense that if
- 34:50the person buys now for 10K doesn't it does It's not just
- 34:55common sense that you're trying to see how the person should buy
- 34:57again next month and the other month and the other month so
- 35:00that at the end of the year, OK, yes, 12 months profit margin is
- 35:0610K for each. So instead of making just 10K on
- 35:08person, make 120 grand on the person.
- 35:12It's common sense but lots of people don't do it.
- 35:14So do your good customer care after service.
- 35:19All that so you can ask people for repeat business and
- 35:23referrals. When people come for repeat
- 35:27business, closing the deal is a lot easier.
- 35:30All these drama and song and dance that I just described to
- 35:33you. If the lady comes back next
- 35:35month, you don't have to do all these song and dance again when
- 35:38she comes back next month. How long will be in case you
- 35:40have an IVD? That purple thing, it's
- 35:43beautiful. Do you have that purple?
- 35:45Good to go and say I have no problem.
- 35:46We have 5 in stock, so OK, no problem, send me two.
- 35:50That deal will be easier because there's trust, there's rapport,
- 35:55and we've done all the work ahead of time.
- 35:57You did all that work last month.
- 35:58So this current month when lady calls you again, the work you
- 36:02have to go through is smaller. So repeat business, a whole lot
- 36:08easier to close. It's the same thing with
- 36:10referrals. When people give you referrals,
- 36:12closing the deal is easier because their person in quote
- 36:17has referred you. So it's easier.
- 36:18You still have to do some song and dance, but not as hard as
- 36:21before. And think about it.
- 36:25Somebody bought from you. Paw Paw skin care facials this
- 36:28month, profit margin 10K. She comes back next month.
- 36:33So you've made 20K off this person.
- 36:36The next month she comes again, that's 30K, but let's say this
- 36:39time shall send two of our friends to you.
- 36:42That is a potential another 20 K so you can see how it gets
- 36:45better and better if you do everything right.
- 36:48So finally, one last thing, after you're done perfecting all
- 36:53these processes in your business, because it takes a
- 36:55while for you to figure all these things out.
- 36:57So as you're doing your online skin care, online food delivery,
- 37:01online, whatever, whatever, I think you're taking notes,
- 37:04you're trying to iron out all these processes.
- 37:06You're writing everything down, making a note of everything.
- 37:12Because after you make a note of all these things and after you
- 37:16perfect your processes, you now have to teach your younger
- 37:21brother who is shadowing you because your younger brother is
- 37:24going to start selling on your behalf eventually.
- 37:27Or teach your younger sister who helps you take care of the kids
- 37:30now, but school has not resumed, so she might as well help you
- 37:34sell some of your product too. You can teach your sales girl.
- 37:38She's an employee sitting down in the warehouse doing nothing.
- 37:42You might as well bring her up to speed so that when people
- 37:44enter the warehouse, she's top notch.
- 37:47Or when you're busy or sick, she can pick up your phone and she
- 37:51can be able to handle all the conversations in Instagram.
- 37:54Teach your husband. Your husband wants to be
- 37:56supportive, so once in a while he's like, oh, what can I do?
- 37:59You don't want to set him loose on customers when he has not
- 38:02been properly trained. Don't do all this hard work.
- 38:05And then you say, oh, darling, help me do this, help me do
- 38:08this. And then he goes and spoils your
- 38:09business. So the whole point of perfecting
- 38:13all these things and noting it down is so that you can teach
- 38:15all these people to sell on your behalf.
- 38:17Teach your children because this is also a good way for children
- 38:21to get into the world. Learn about accountability,
- 38:25responsibility, being an adult, things like that.
- 38:28By the time your daughter closes one or two deals, your son
- 38:31closes one or two deals. They feel good, they feel
- 38:33confident, and then all the ideas that they have at the back
- 38:36of their mind that they don't think is realistic or whatever,
- 38:39they start trying to do some small, small, small things.
- 38:44Train your employees so they can sell well on your behalf.
- 38:47People who are volunteering within your organization.
- 38:50If you're people, if you're someone who takes NYSE staff,
- 38:53I'm sorry, not NYSE staff, people from NYSE, train them up.
- 38:57People who come for internship, train them up.
- 38:59So all these things that we're talking about here, don't just
- 39:01keep it in your head. Write it out on a sheet of
- 39:04paper, perfect the process. Teach all these people around
- 39:07you so that they can sell on your behalf.
- 39:10If you can do all this, you're on the path to creating a
- 39:12business that can run without you.
- 39:15So Instagram vendors, I hope you guys are listening and I'll try
- 39:19to remember you guys in more content in the future.
- 39:22I will try. But like I said, I started off
- 39:28wedding photography, charcoal, sesame seed, You know, all these
- 39:33things are really face to face. You know you go and see
- 39:37somebody, you go and visit somebody, show somebody
- 39:39something. So I'll try and remember you
- 39:41online guys more. And for those of you who think I
- 39:44like fish, you can see today I did not say a single thing about
- 39:48catfish in today's episode, so I'm proud.
- 39:52All right, so that's all for today.
- 39:54Connect with me on WhatsApp. The phone number is 08064662140.
- 39:59The country code is +234. For those of you who are not
- 40:02Nigerian and then connect with me on LinkedIn, my name is
- 40:04Tavishima Ayede. You can get the correct spelling
- 40:07of my name. So you can search for me on
- 40:09LinkedIn if you just use the link where you're currently
- 40:12listening to this episode. You get the right spelling of my
- 40:15name and then my e-mail address is also there while you're
- 40:17listening to this episode. So thank you very much for your
- 40:20time and attention. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 40:21recording. Sorry, it's a 40 minute episode.
- 40:23I just wanted to make sure we just squeeze everything into one
- 40:26episode instead of me just breaking it up into three or
- 40:29four. So yeah, that's it.
- 40:31I'll catch you guys tomorrow.