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Brendan Banfield Murder Trial — Au Pair Testifies | The Murder of Christine Banfield and Joseph Ryan · True Crime with Gavin Fish

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Today began day one of the murder trial of Brendan
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Banfield. Now it's days like this that I
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wish that I were a classic true crime fan.
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This, this case is brand spanking new to me.
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I saw that it was covered by everyone all over the place, all
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the media outlets, several YouTube channels.
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I was like Vassesh Das. I recognize that, judge.
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Oh, but as I dug into it, just the colder and colder it became.
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I'm hooked. Let's get into day one.
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This video contains mature themes and discussions intended
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only for adult audiences. Viewer discretion is advised.
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Messed up on the old button pushes.
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There you know that's what that's what you get when you
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come to an amateur YouTube true crime guy you don't get you
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don't get the professional stuff I don't have a person to push my
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buttons to to turn my knobs to flip my levers I I have to do it
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all myself anyway. Welcome back thank you for
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joining me for another true crime conversation.
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My name is Gavin. Thanks for being here.
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Wherever it is that you're joining from, I am so glad that
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you are. I know that there are people
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down the street and I know that there are people around the
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world that TuneIn and I just love that.
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Please put where you're tuning in from in the chat.
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I just love to know where you guys are coming in from.
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Special shout out to whoever is the farthest away.
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I'm going to guess Brazil, maybe Australia today.
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We'll see what happens. Guys.
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We are talking about the murder of Christine Banfield.
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She is victim #1 victim #2 is Joseph Ryan, with precious
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little information about Mr. Ryan, but Christine and Joe, as
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they refer to him in the trial, they were not connected at all.
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Joe was a stranger to Christine, and yet not through fate, not
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through circumstances that the universe, you know, I don't
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know, mixed together in some crazy recipe to get these two
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kids together. No, that's not what happened.
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What happened was, according to prosecutors and police, two
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people, Brendan Banfield, Christine's husband, and
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Juliana. How do we say that?
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Magdalene Magalius. Magalius.
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I don't speak Portuguese. I'm sorry.
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Two people who were connected. They were, shall we say,
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congressionally connected. They were lovers in Congress.
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United. These two kids decided you know
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the best. Course of action so that we can
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be together. Let's go ahead and kill her.
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This is according to prosecutors, right.
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This is what's alleged. Now, Juliana has already pleaded
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guilty, so we don't have to say alleged with her, but Brendan is
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on trial. These two kids are like, let's
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just go ahead and off this woman and I don't know how we should
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do it. We'll bring in a stranger, bring
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in a stranger. And that is what they what we
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believe they did. So I mean, where do we go from
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here? I know where we go.
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We go to the reports now. I was going to get some video
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for you guys from testimony. Audio was terrible.
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Plus none of the video is really ready by the time I started.
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So I I wasn't able to do it but I got.
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A couple of articles that I want to that I want to read for you.
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Let's see. The first one I didn't bring up.
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Let me see if I can find that real quick.
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There we go. Okie, Dokie, join me over at
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Acrobat. Well, yeah, I need to hide this.
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You guys can't see it, but I can't.
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OK. Are we all on the same page?
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We are. This is brought to usbycnn.com.
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This was maybe a couple hours ago as it was written, and it
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gives us a little primer on the case.
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And then what we're going to go to is some of these live updates
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that happened throughout the throughout the day that the
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details that that were brought into court today are just
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incredible. How if he did it, I'm presuming
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him guilty wink, wink, nod, nod or not guilty.
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Wow, Freudian slip. I'm presuming him not guilty.
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Wink, wink, nod, nod. But the the details of this case
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are just absolutely disturbing. Let's begin at CNN.
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Lauren Del Valle wrote this and this was written a couple hours
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ago. Headline Brendan Banfield trial
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au pair who had an affair with defendant testifies testifies on
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alleged killings. Of his wife and another man.
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OK, the AU pair, who was having an affair with Brendan Banfield
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when he allegedly killed his wife and another man in February
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2023 as part of an elaborate scheme, has taken the stand to
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testify on the first day of Banfield's double murder trial.
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Let me just pause here for a second.
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OK? If you're new here, you may have
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not heard this before, but I have what I call Gavin's Iron
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Law of Criminal Mastermind re. And it is this.
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If you believe you have what it takes to be a criminal
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mastermind, that is the evidence that proves you do not have what
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it takes to be a criminal mastermind.
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They did, according to prosecutors, engage in an
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elaborate conspiracy, an elaborate scheme, as Miss Del
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Valle writes, to get away with murder.
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OK, they did not do a good job. They just didn't do a good job.
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But anyway, OK, they're criminal masterminds.
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They are not. Prosecutors have alleged that
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plot was hatched when the AU pair Juliana Perez Magalies, who
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was initially charged with murder in the case in October
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23. She has since pleaded that is
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that that is an incomplete sentence, but that's OK.
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That's OK. You got to write these things on
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the go. It's fine.
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She has since pleaded guilty to a lesser count of involuntary
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manslaughter for fatally shooting Joseph Ryan, one of the
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victims. the AU pair agreed to cooperate with prosecutors
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against Banfield in exchange for a recommendation that she be
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sentenced to time served, according to the plea agreement.
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Of course, the court does not have to abide by the plea
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agreement. Banfield has pleaded not guilty
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to charges of aggravated murder for the deaths of his wife,
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Christine Banfield and Ryan, as well as using a firearm during
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the Commission of a felony. He faces up to life in prison if
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convicted on the murder charges. Prosecutors say Brendan Banfield
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and the Virginia family's Brazilian au pair were having an
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extramarital affair and carried out the plan together because
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Banfield wanted to quote get rid close quote of his wife.
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The salacious plot features allegations of BDSM, sexual role
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play, trips to the gun range and false 911 cause, all in an
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attempt to kill Banfield's wife and frame Ryan, according to
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prosecutors. Banfield's defense attorney
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countered that law enforcement manipulated evidence to pin the
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blame on his client. And I don't blame the defense
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for mounting a defense. That's perfectly fine.
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In fact, did you guys see, did you guys see that Alan Jackson,
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defense attorney to the stars, was on Billy Bush's Hot Mike's
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podcast yesterday and he made the point that he.
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Feels that it is. His job to make sure that
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prosecutors and that police, that law enforcement get
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absolutely everything right. That's his job.
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And if they didn't get absolutely everything right,
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then they've got then they can't win.
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Is basically, I'm, I'm putting words in his mouth right.
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If they did everything right, then it's perfectly reasonable
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for them to get a conviction. But but they have to get it 100%
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right. And that was his perspective
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anyway. So I don't mind defense
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attorneys mounting a defense, even if they I'm sure that law
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enforcement doesn't appreciate it, but even if they're pointing
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the finger at law enforcement saying no, no, no, you guys
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wrong button. What am I?
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This is the button. You guys manipulated evidence in
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your, your, you put a frame around my client, right?
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In her opening statement Tuesday morning, prosecutor Jenna Sands.
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Told the jury Ryan had been lured to the Banfield's home for
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what he thought was a consensual sexual encounter with Christine
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Banfield. Brendan Banfield spent a month
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posing as his wife on a fetish website, cultivating a
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relationship with Ryan, who thought he was talking to
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Christine Banfield about her stranger.
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We're going to not say that word fantasy.
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Sands told the jury. Those two individuals had no
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reason to know each other but for the plotting and planning of
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Brendan Banfield sans set and this guy's.
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This is the thing that just gets me with this case is that in
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order to off his wife, he was willing to off a stranger
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however he justified. That, in his mind, is.
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Cuckoo, cuckoo how? How do you justify?
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First of all, how do you justify in your mind?
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I want to hear your comments. I want to hear your comments on
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this. How does 1 justify in their mind
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the offing of a spouse? Dude, if you're unhappy at home,
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there are remedies that do not include the ending of 1's life.
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I just, I don't get how people get there.
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I don't get how people get there.
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But to just add just a just a sprinkle on a little more evil
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seasoning. Yeah, we're going to we're just
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going to kill a stranger while we're at it.
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COO, COO nuts. OK, so I'm going to stop reading
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this one because in the next one we get to maybe a little more.
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A little more detail. OK, so join me again back over
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here on Acrobat. Just let's see, we're going to
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scroll up. Scroll, scroll, scroll.
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Yeah, they heard the 911 calls today.
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Why are we not? Oh, because it's the top.
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Let me get to the bottom here. OK, so actually they didn't talk
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about the 911 call. So let let me read the 911 call
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thing real quick. Where are we?
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OK, jurors here, 911 calls. The case began February 24th,
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2023. Calls.
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TO911 LED police to the Banfield's Herndon, VA, home,
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where they found Christine Banfield, 37, dead of stab
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wounds, and Ryan, 39, dead of gunshot wounds nearby.
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I know that this is a bit. Off topic, but 37 and 39, does
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that remind you of anybody? Isn't that that was the age of
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the Tepes, right? Spencer and Monique Tepi?
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Spencer was 37, Monique was 39. Doesn't matter.
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Tuesday morning, jurors heard the 911 calls made from the
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Banfield's. Home 1911 recording made at 7:47
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AM, was disconnected after a dispatcher answered the call.
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A dispatcher then called the number back and left a message
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when no one picked up. Prosecutors have said Paris
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Magalies called 911 at that point, but at Banfield's
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direction hung up before saying anything.
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At eight O 2 Paris Magalies, this is again Juliana.
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Paris Magalies called 911 again. So what?
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What was that at, You know, 15 minutes later, called 911 again
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and spoke to a dispatcher, stuttering but eventually
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telling him, telling them her friend had been stabbed.
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Quote, I need help. My friend, she's been stabbed
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with a knife and now she's bleeding a lot.
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I don't know what to do anymore, Paris Magaliers could be heard
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saying. After attempting to relay the
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home address to the dispatcher, but stuttering and gasping for
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breath, Banfield took the phone from Paris Magaliers.
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He gave his name and identified himself as a federal agent.
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That's right. That's right.
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Mr. Banfield is a federal agent working for the IRS.
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You know it's not, it's not appropriate to joke about that,
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right? We'll stop, OK?
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Banfield then said, stuttering at times on the recording.
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There's somebody here. I shot him, but he stabbed her.
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She's bleeding. She's got several marks on her
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neck. What do I do?
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Paris Magaliers pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in
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October 2024, court records showed.
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A plea hearing prosecutors read aloud a statement laying out the
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key allegations in the case as they allege Paris Magaliers
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began working as an au pair for the couple in late 2021, and in
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August 22 she and Brendan Banfield began an extramarital
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relationship. Banfield told his then 22 year
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old lover his wife was a terrible mother and he wanted to
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get rid of her, SAN said in court.
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The murder plot was set in motion because for Banfield,
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divorce wasn't an option. He didn't want to share custody
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of the couple's toddler. That that is why that you just
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don't want to share custody. So let's kill her.
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Cuckoo Banfield set up an account on fetlife.com, a sexual
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fetish site, began communicating with Ryan and lured him to the
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Banfield home, prosecutors say. Ryan likely believed he was
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meeting Christine Banfield for a consensual sexual encounter.
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According to prosecutors, Banfield, posing as his wife,
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gave Ryan strict instructions. Quote.
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The door will be unlocked, Christine will be asleep in bed,
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come straight upstairs, cut off clothing, tie her R word her
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simple and fun. That was how it was posed.
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San said in court they would not meet in person beforehand.
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Joe's phones would be left in a car.
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Joe was to bring a knife, zip ties, chains, and most
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importantly, he was not to stop. Even if she looked terrible,
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even if she was calling for help, he was to follow through
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because that's what she really wanted.
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Oh my goodness. OK, so let's let's now go over
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to this one. I want to let me just it is.
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There we go. OK.
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OK. So this was like a live update
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of the trial. What was happening during the
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day. I don't know that I can get any
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closer. Yeah, OK, so video shows Au
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Pair's account of Hernan killings. the AU Pair accused in
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a love triangle that led to the alleged double murder shared a
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dark and twisted story about what she says LED up to the
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killings. During an interview with
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prosecutors, Juliana Perez Magalia said Brandon Banfield,
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the man with whom she was having an affair, masterminded an
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elaborate plot to kill his wife, Christine.
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She said she moved from Brazil to the US on a work visa in
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October 2021 to work as an au pair for the Banfields, helping
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with their young daughter. She told prosecutors she and
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Brendan started having an affair about a year into her job while
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she was living in their Herndon home.
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Let's see, OK? The prosecutor's opening
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statement says the man seated behind me killed his wife.
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This is Sands. Banfield's double murder trial
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began with lead prosecutor Jenna Sands dramatic opening
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statement. We're here today because Brendan
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Banfield, the man seated behind me, killed his wife, Christine
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Banfield, and another man named Joseph Ryan.
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Those two individuals had no reason to know each other but
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for the plotting and planning of Brendan Banfield, SAN said.
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And I keep harping on this, but that is a new level of evil man.
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Christine Banfield, a 37 year old ICU nurse and the mother of
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a four year old, was asleep early on the morning of a day
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off after prosecutors say her husband posed as her on a fetish
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website and arranged for a stranger to enter the home.
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And our word her. Brendan Banfield then plotted to
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kill his wife and pin it on that man, Joseph Ryan Sands said.
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Sands laid out what jurors would hear, including testimony from
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the family's au pair, accounts from witnesses and experts, the
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fetish website, chats, phone call details and 911 calls.
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Before we continue. Let me just here I'm going to
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bring up. I I should I should?
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Have a a graphic of both victims here I I will do that for the
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next time we cover this case let me just go over to what you guys
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are saying here real quick let. Me go.
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Oh, yeah. You guys are checking in from
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everywhere. Let's just see real quick.
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North Carolina, South Carolina, California, Oklahoma.
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North Carolina, Ohio. Findlay.
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OH cool, UKI think you're probably the farthest one away.
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Valencia, Spain, Yorkshire, UK, North Carolina, Lake George, NY,
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Avalon, Texas. You guys are awesome.
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And LB hammer time just says just get a divorce people.
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Yeah, please do that instead of the murdery.
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Murdery not. Cool, let's see, Mooney says.
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I wonder if all of his affairs will be allowed in. the AU pair
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was not his first by a long shot.
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I don't get it. I don't get it, guys.
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You know, I guess for every Jack there is a Jill in his case.
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For every Jack, there are multiple Jills.
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But I I don't feel like he's a total catch.
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That's just me. That's just me.
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All right, let's bring up Mr. Ryan here.
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Dee 1972 says. I watched some of the trial and
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the way she was found in the manner of her death is
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monstrous. This man, in my opinion, is evil
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and selfish. How you get your man is how you
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lose him, young lady, terrible. Oh.
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That that old adage. Yeah, yeah.
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Good. Comment Good comment.
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Let's see. Oh, look.
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Hey, Mooney agrees with me. Not to be rude, but look at him.
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Why not him? Let's see why.
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And how he got multiple women is way beyond me.
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Yeah, I I don't get it. Yeah, defense trash.
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Christine's public image, too. Yep.
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And Yep, that was the thanks Melissa.
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People are Cray Cray. Gavin.
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What time of day did this take place?
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This took place in the well, the early morning.
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It was like 745 I think he was to arrive at.
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Well, it doesn't. It said the 1st 911 call
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happened at 7:47 AM, so it would let's call that the early for
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me, that's the very early morning.
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But yeah, the early morning analytical one, said Gavin.
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It's not just you. Have you had a face for radio?
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Yeah, Patricia Burns. How is that au pair not going
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down for life? She admitting she admitted to
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killing the guy. I I I don't get it either.
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I don't get it. I mean, how how do you make that
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deal? It'll just be involuntary
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manslaughter. Is the theory that he made her
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do it? She didn't want to do it, but he
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made her do it. She feared for her life if she
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didn't participate. Something like that.
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I don't know. Kim's crazy life, says Gavin, as
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she was on the stand telling the story, she showed no emotion.
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I think she's as guilty as he is.
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I watched about, oh, the last maybe 35 minutes of her
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testimony today. And you're right.
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It was, it was, I guess, clinical.
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It was sterile the way she testified, for sure.
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I really wish they'd get better sound in that courtroom.
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You'd think after the Johnny Depp, Amber Heard debacle that
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this courthouse would get really, really good sound.
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But it was. It was tough to understand her
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in a lot of, lot of, lot of the time.
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Mooney says it's a plea deal. She'll get time served.
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If she follows through with what the prosecutors ask of her, she
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will then be deported. Remember, it's it's a plea deal
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with the prosecution. So maybe she will get time
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served, maybe she won't. Maybe the judge will go, this is
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not appropriate at all. We're going to add 10 years to
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maybe, you never know, but. Possibly, but but I think in.
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But I do think that you're right.
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Like if. I I think she'll probably be
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deported after that for sure, if she's still on a visa.
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Patricia Byrne says many years ago I worked as an AU parent and
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nanny and in every job the husband tried it on, tried it on
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with me and I had to move on to another household every time.
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Goodness, yeah, that's that's pretty sick.
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Scotch's mom says, hey, I'm late.
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Glad you're here, though. Jacksonville, FL.
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She gets a sweet deal with deportation in exchange for her
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testimony. It is a sweet deal and not cool
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in my opinion, but OK, let's. Yeah.
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Schmoopi says she said today one shot she did on her own, no
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direction, just as guilty. Yeah.
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Buenas de Colombia, Thank you for being here.
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Glad you're here. OK let's let's move back over to
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this one. There were a couple of other,
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there were, there were some other witnesses.
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Officer says Banfield washed blood off hands before police
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could swab them. On the witness stand, Officer
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Zach Beckner said Brandon Banfield had blood on his hands
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and was not handcuffed at any point in police custody.
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Then it cut out. When asked why Benfield was
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allowed to wash his hands, Beckner said he felt bad that
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Banfield was blowing his nose and wiping his face with his
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hands. Beckner said he was not given
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instruction or guidance for Banfield to not wash his hand.
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I was trying to be empathetic at the time, Beckner said.
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Beckner, I hope this was a learning opportunity for you.
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For crying out loud, protect the.
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Scene man, protect the scene. OK then the defense au pair was
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arrested to flip her against Banfield.
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What? That might be true, but does it
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help their case? Banfield's attorney, John
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Carroll, argued in his opening statement that state prosecutors
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repeatedly brought plea officers to the AU pair, including one
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that would have brought her charge down to a misdemeanor in
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the months after her arrest. Quote, the whole reason she was
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arrested was to flip her against my client, Carroll argued.
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Or maybe she was arrested because she participated in the
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murder of two people, and then in order to get really the guy
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that was the most culpable in jail for the rest of his life,
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they offered the plea. I'm hoping that the jury's
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thinking in those terms, Carol said Paris Magalier's wrote to.
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Banfield, they want you. All they want is to get me.
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In this case, they want you. All they want is to get me.
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In this case. They want me to say things that
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aren't true. They want me to say things that
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aren't true. They want me to say things that
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I did that aren't true. They offered me a misdemeanor
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while they wrote in prison. In jail, I guess they wrote
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again an indication that these are not the sharpest tools in
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the ship in the shed. At one point.
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Paris Magaliers declined a plea deal from prosecutors that would
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have brought charges against her down to a misdemeanor.
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Carol said as the case went on, it became clear prosecutors were
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willing to do anything. He said court resumed after
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lunch. A forensic pathologist testified
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on victims autopsies. Kessler spoke about specific
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details on samples collected from both victims during
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autopsies. She also testified on the
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gunshot wounds suffered by Ryan and about the stab wounds on
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Christine, saying her wounds were all rapidly fatal injuries.
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Christine also had abrasions and contusions, Kessler said.
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So there was this rapid like a, what did Tom Brennan call it?
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AI can't remember the term that he used, but basically that it
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was a blitz. Like she was blitz.
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She she was blitzed. It was a blitz attack knife
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shown in court as medical examiner testifies on Christine
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Banfield's fatal injuries. Court officer showed a knife
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from evidence as Kessler described Christine Banfield's
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deadly injuries. She listed wounds including to
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the jugular vein in her neck and said she had rapidly fatal
28:09
injuries. Her cause of death was multiple
28:10
sharp force injuries and the manner of death is homicide,
28:14
Kessler said. A break.
28:19
I do like this timeline. Yeah, that's police discover the
28:30
AU pair has moved into the primary bedroom with Brendan
28:34
Banfield and his daughter is calling her mommy.
28:36
Oh, are you kidding me? OK, so February 24th, 2023 is is
28:44
the murder date the AU pair was arrested?
28:48
Oh, no. And then October 13th is when
28:50
they discovered that the AU pair has moved into the master
28:53
bedroom. The daughter is calling her
28:55
mommy. On the 19th, she's arrested,
28:57
charged second degree murder and a firearms offense related to
29:01
Ryan's death on the 16th of February.
29:06
I'm sorry, of September 2024. Almost a year later, Brendan is
29:10
charged 4 counts of aggravated murder and a firearms charge
29:13
tied to both defendant, both deaths.
29:17
And then a plea deal and confession was last October,
29:21
Magalius pleaded guilty to manslaughter, Agrees to
29:24
cooperate with authorities. And then, wow, OK.
29:30
All right, Banfields. Let's see, go up here.
29:35
Au pair takes the stand. That had to be uncomfortable.
29:38
Walking right by him had to be uncomfortable.
29:42
OK, became sexual. Au Pair testifies on
29:44
relationship with Brennan Banfield.
29:46
Paris Magalis took the stand and answered questions on the start
29:50
of her time with the Banfield's. After arriving in October 21,
29:53
she received $200 per week. She said she and Banfield had
29:57
little relationship at first. She said $200 a week.
30:02
I I would imagine plus room and board or something like that.
30:05
That's wow. We barely spoke, like my
30:07
relationship is mostly with Christine and the couple's young
30:09
child, Paris Magalias testified. Then it became sexual physical
30:15
relationships, she said. The prosecutor then began to
30:17
show photos and videos the two together.
30:23
Au pair testifies that Brendan wanted to get rid of his wife.
30:28
Paris Magalia has described seeing Brendan Banfield make a
30:31
profile on a fetish website in his wife's name.
30:33
Using photos of her. He created a new e-mail address
30:37
and used his wife's laptop, she said, to make the profile on
30:41
Fetlife, which describes itself as the world's largest BDSM kink
30:45
and fetish community. Using the name Anastasia,
30:49
Brennan Banfield messaged men about gagging and spanking,
30:52
Perez Magalia said. A prosecutor described a number
30:55
of photos posted to the Fetlife profile.
30:58
Brennan was careful to never post to the account except when
31:01
Christine Banfield was home out of concern for where her phone
31:05
would ping during an investigation.
31:07
Perez Magalia said. Wow, I mean, that's, that's
31:11
pretty elaborate, man, pretty elaborate.
31:17
Opair says divorce wasn't an option.
31:19
When asked by the prosecution whether Brennan ever talked
31:22
about divorcing Christine, Giuliana replied no.
31:25
He basically said divorce was not an option.
31:27
He said Brendan. She said Brendan told her he
31:30
didn't want a divorce because money was involved and he didn't
31:33
want to share custody of their daughter with Christine.
31:36
Magalia said Brendan first mentioned his plan to get rid of
31:39
her in October 2022, about two months after they started having
31:43
an affair. She said he brought up the plan
31:46
while the two of them were on a trip to New York with the
31:48
Banfield's young daughter. Initially, he didn't.
31:52
He didn't really know what he would do, she said on the stand.
31:55
He just mentioned that he was thinking about it and he would
31:58
think better and let me know what he.
31:59
Thought about it dude. This is the moment you run away
32:03
young lady. Run far, far away that that is a
32:08
crime. What he is doing there is called
32:11
conspiracy, I think. I'm not a lawyer.
32:16
Look it up. I'm not a lawyer.
32:18
She said she at first thought he was joking, but he spoke more of
32:21
his plans when they returned from their trip.
32:26
Brendan and Opair declined to meet with several people on
32:29
Fetlife. She testified Brendan and.
32:31
Juliana message with several people.
32:34
Oh, She participated on Fetlife as they posed as Christine, but
32:39
rejected them because site users wanted to meet in person before
32:42
any sexual encounter. Brennan believed Joseph Ryan
32:46
would come to the Banfield's home and enact the violent
32:48
fantasy he'd planned. He made Brennan feel confident.
32:52
Enough that he would be the person to play the role, which
32:54
means being aggressive and hold her down and come over to the
32:56
house and bring stuff and all that, she said.
32:59
Wow. That is nuts.
33:02
Oh, Brennan checked for doorbell cameras in the neighborhood,
33:07
Giuliana testified Brennan went around his neighborhood in
33:10
Herndon, checking to see if any of his neighbors had doorbell
33:12
surveillance cameras in preparation of the killings.
33:16
He went around in the neighborhood checking for Ring
33:18
cameras, doorbell cameras, the doors, she said.
33:21
She said Brennan knew that two different neighbors didn't have
33:24
cameras, but he was checking for other neighbors. the AU pair
33:27
told the prosecution that Brendan also chart changed his
33:30
routine so it wouldn't be odd that he was at McDonald's nearby
33:35
on the morning of the killings. So he started going to leave the
33:38
house earlier to go to work and he would stop by somewhere else
33:41
to eat breakfast or something. So it wouldn't be odd.
33:47
Oh, my goodness. And then, yeah, the the
33:51
testimony will continue tomorrow.
33:53
Let's bring up our victims here one more time.
33:56
See what you guys are saying. Kim's crazy life.
34:03
Didn't you hear her say our house, our bed, etcetera?
34:06
Yeah, she. Was Yeah, you're right.
34:11
Did the defendant cry when his Paramore spoke today?
34:14
I don't think so. Carol Silva, please don't think
34:19
that women from Brazil are like this awful person.
34:22
I'm embarrassed that she is from my country.
34:24
Horrible. I do not think that.
34:27
I do not think that in the slightest.
34:32
Yeah. One person out of a huge country
34:35
like that. And I feel like.
34:40
Yeah, I feel like. This was a young, impressionable
34:45
woman that was controlled I. I kind of feel that way that
34:49
that doesn't that doesn't mean that she is not guilty.
34:54
But yeah. Elizabeth McMaster, Esquire
34:58
lawyer here. Yes, it's a conspiracy.
34:59
Thank you. Felt like it felt like that.
35:04
But yeah, Christine lost her life because of these two
35:07
Shmulios. So did Mr. Ryan.
35:10
He lost his life because of these two Shmelios.
35:13
Let's show them again Mr. Brennan Banfield and Julia
35:19
Magalias, which I think is probably pronounced more like
35:22
Magaliage or something like that.
35:24
I'm not not very good with Portuguese.
35:27
I, I lived in Argentina, which is a Spanish speaking country.
35:30
I had friends that were Brazilian down there and it
35:33
always seemed unfair. That I could speak Spanish and
35:37
they could understand me, but if they spoke Portuguese I could
35:41
not get it. And as you guys know, this is
35:44
this is a bit of a tangent. Yeah, it's a bit of a.
35:53
Tangent My wife and I last what was it, June?
36:01
I can't remember when it was. We went to Portugal on just a
36:04
little vacation to celebrate our anniversary.
36:06
And which is not in June, our anniversary is in November.
36:10
But we that, that's how, that's how we justified the trip.
36:15
Yeah, I, I could, I could completely just speak in Spanish
36:19
to anyone and they got it and then back in Portuguese to me.
36:25
Oh, it was tough. It was tough.
36:28
So, yeah. Anyway, I don't blame Brazil, I
36:33
don't blame the Brazilian people.
36:35
I blame this person and this person.
36:42
That's who I blame, OK? Guys, now let's Carol Selva says
36:50
Spanish is totally different from Portuguese.
36:52
I can understand, but not the same.
36:54
Yeah, yeah. But I've got buddies like I've
36:56
got a friend who. She lived in Portugal and she
37:02
came back. This is when we were young, we
37:05
were in our 20s. We'd hang out and she could
37:10
understand everything that I said.
37:12
Maybe it's that? I don't know I I've.
37:15
Always thought that Spanish was a more beautiful language, but
37:18
I, Carol, I will not impugn your country's wonderful language,
37:22
but I've always thought the Spanish was a beautiful
37:25
language. I'll just, I'll just leave it at
37:26
that. All right, let's get into three
37:28
questions, shall we? Pow OK in this segment guys, I
37:39
will answer 3 questions posed by you and I solemnly promise that
37:44
I will answer to the best of my ability.
37:46
I do not really prepare my answers on these, I just all I
37:50
do is copy and paste the questions into my system here.
37:53
So I haven't really thought about these.
37:55
You can send in questions. I got a lot of questions
37:57
yesterday, which was terrific. But you can send in questions to
38:00
three questions at gavinfish.com, three questions
38:03
at gavinfish.com, spell it out, THREE questions at
38:05
gavinfish.com. And I will endeavor to answer
38:09
all of them in the order in which they are received.
38:12
And I will do so three at a time.
38:17
So what is question number one? Let me bring it up.
38:21
Question number one is, oh, it's a long one.
38:26
I mean, let's see. If you were stranded, it's kind
38:30
of kind of showing weird. There we go.
38:32
If you were stranded in a supermarket, big grocery store
38:36
overnight because you got locked in accidentally and there was no
38:39
way to call out or let or be let out until the morning, what
38:44
would you do? With your time there, if there
38:46
were no consequences within reason, you can't trash the
38:49
place. Let's see, this is a this is the
38:54
plot to one of my favorite movies with Jennifer Connelly.
39:02
Jennifer Connelly movies. What was it called way back in
39:08
the day? This would be in the 90s.
39:10
Ah, yes, career opportunities. This was career opportunities.
39:15
OK, so First off, Jennifer Connelly was my young teenage
39:22
crush that that was a beautiful girl and is a beautiful woman
39:28
who appears to me anyway, to be a wonderful and delightful
39:33
person. But yes.
39:35
Career opportunities was one that I watched in the theater
39:38
something like 9 times. Once it got to Birdcage when it
39:42
was the dollar movie, I watched it in the regular theaters.
39:44
Then it went over to Sunrise Mall where it was like $3.75.
39:48
Then it was over at Birdcage where it was like a dollar and
39:50
me and my buddy Hayden. We watched it way, way, way too
39:53
many times. You know what I just did?
40:00
I did. It was a tangent.
40:02
OK, Anyway, what would I do first of all?
40:07
I worked as a supermarket stock boy, so I know that those places
40:12
are not empty all night long. But let's just say for the for
40:17
the sake of this question, what would I do?
40:19
I would probably like play video games.
40:22
I might get into like the candy bins, like like I'm putting
40:26
myself as a teenager here, not as a 50 year old grown man, but
40:31
as a teenager. If I was locked in like the
40:34
Raley's all night long, Well, let's see, they wouldn't have
40:41
video games at a Raley's, right? If it were, if it were a grocery
40:44
store, I think I'd probably just be eating candy all night long.
40:49
But if it were like a Target, Walmart, Kmart back in the day,
40:55
something like a Sears, I think I would be playing video games
40:59
all night long. I would not trash the place and
41:02
I would be. I would feel very, very guilty.
41:05
For all of the candy that I consumed throughout the night,
41:09
but because I was a young teenager in this example, I
41:13
would be broke and I would run. OK.
41:17
Question #2 As a reporter, what has been your most interesting
41:21
interview? Great question.
41:31
I don't think I will share names, but there was a suspect,
41:41
there was a murder suspect here in western Pennsylvania who
41:45
later charges of murder were dropped, were dropped and he was
41:51
let free. He consequently sued the county
41:54
and won and was paid out for him a significant amount of money.
41:58
It wasn't huge, but a significant amount of money.
42:01
And he later had all sorts of problems with police.
42:05
You know, they, they, they wanted to get him.
42:07
And so, you know, they caught him with drugs, they caught him
42:10
with paraphernalia. And then there was an allegation
42:15
that he had S aid someone close to him.
42:21
I believed the allegations and I learned that there was a warrant
42:27
that was out for his arrest. So I went to his home, knocked
42:33
on the door, and he and I and his significant other went to
42:39
their backyard where we talked for like 2 hours on the record,
42:44
including I took photographs. And I knew, or at least I felt
42:50
the entire time that he was lying to me the entire time.
42:56
And he did it with just so much ease.
43:02
He was completely comfortable. He was late.
43:07
He later pleaded guilty to the charge.
43:11
Yeah. So that might be the most.
43:14
Oh, no. I've done some interviews where
43:20
where they're all women. I've done some interviews where
43:23
they talked about being essayed within the county jail while
43:28
they were waiting for waiting for court.
43:34
And in one case, the charges were dropped on this woman, but
43:38
she had spent like 200 days in in prison.
43:42
It was. Yeah.
43:42
So there are a lot of interesting and sad interviews
43:46
that I've done today. Today was a tough one.
43:51
I was out in Clarion County today and talked with a guy who
43:57
was a roadside big rig mechanic. He offered, he worked for a
44:05
company that offers towing service and like, they'll change
44:08
your tire, they'll make repairs to, to things on the roadside to
44:12
tractor trailers. And I made a short about this
44:16
earlier today, but you know, in Pennsylvania, as with the the
44:19
entire country. Guys, this is this is my.
44:22
My personal crusade here today, if if there is a car on the side
44:28
of the road, the side of the highway, you must move over.
44:31
Please, I'm begging you, move over.
44:33
Our son does this job. He works for a corporation that
44:36
does the same thing. He's a diesel mechanic.
44:38
He goes out and sometimes does things roadside.
44:42
Please move over. 36 people were killed last year in 2025 in
44:48
roadside accidents like this. But anyway, I talked to him
44:52
where he had he had been, his life was nearly lost by a driver
44:59
that did not move over. His back was broken multiple
45:01
times. His legs were broken, his ankles
45:03
were broken. He lost his spleen.
45:06
He lost a kidney. His his life is as he knew it is
45:10
completely over. Those are those are tough
45:14
interviews to do tough. Oh, I interviewed a mom.
45:20
I interviewed a mom whose son, after being bullied at school,
45:27
attempted to take his own life with a compound bow and did not
45:35
succeed. But life is ruined, changed
45:39
forever. Just a little kid now I've I've
45:42
had lots of interesting interviews.
45:46
If he had three wishes and they can only be frivolous.
45:49
Nothing serious like World Peace.
45:52
What can they be? You know what?
45:54
I'm too self. Absorbed to wish for World Peace
45:57
anyway and I'm a bit of a realist, I know that human
46:02
nature never changes, so I I wouldn't waste my wish on that
46:06
my. Wish you know, was it just
46:11
yesterday or a couple days ago there was a question about if
46:15
you could go back to a. Certain time in your life, a
46:18
certain memory, Would you do that?
46:20
Or which one would you choose? I think those would be my
46:22
wishes. I would, I would maybe my wish
46:25
would be to be able to travel to any time in my past to visit
46:33
invisibly. And maybe it's just because I'm
46:38
I'm so sentimental and nostalgic these days, but I would love to
46:41
be able to. And maybe, I mean, I don't want
46:44
to. I like where I ended up.
46:47
Really happy with where I ended up, but.
46:49
There are a couple things where I just want to like grab myself
46:52
and slap myself just a little bit, just a little like wake up.
46:57
You know, maybe those would that would be a wish.
47:02
I I I would wish that my grandmother never had cancer.
47:08
She died while I was away and couldn't get back.
47:13
I was in Argentina. I would wish that my dad never
47:17
had cancer. Yeah, those would probably be my
47:21
wishes. Those those are good questions.
47:24
And the reason I do this segment before we get into headlines is
47:29
because I want to know what your answers to some of these
47:32
questions are. So please in the comments tell
47:36
me if you had three wishes, what would they be?
47:40
What is the most interesting conversation you've ever had
47:43
with someone you know you know? Another interesting interview I
47:47
did before my maternal grandmother passed away at a
47:53
ripe old age. She was almost 92.
47:57
I sat down for like 2 hours with cameras and I miked her up and I
48:04
talked to her about her life and I love that I have that video
48:09
with my grandma of. My grandma.
48:11
It's only her talking about her life.
48:15
And that. Was a super interesting
48:18
interview and then the third one was, you know, if you're.
48:21
Stranded in a supermarket, grocery store overnight?
48:25
What would you do? And while you're writing those
48:28
down in the live stream, in the live comments, we shall move on
48:32
to Headlines True Crime. Headlines.
48:41
How OK true. Crime headlines.
48:44
Where am I going? I'm going to push this button.
48:47
This article, It's it's. It's pretty.
48:51
Tabloidy Rob Shooter is kind of a tabloid journalist in my
48:58
opinion. It's it's not sourced.
49:01
He's he. He has unnamed sources.
49:05
But I still thought it was interesting, so I thought I'd
49:07
just bring it. The headline is Nick Reiner
49:09
thinks he'll be home for late dad's birthday, March 6th.
49:13
Nick Reiner accused of killing his parents.
49:15
Robin Michelle Reiner is reportedly living in a bubble of
49:18
delusion behind bars. He really thinks he'll be out in
49:21
time for his dad's birthday. A close source tells me he
49:24
doesn't seem to comprehend why he's locked up at all.
49:27
Those who knew him say he's disconnected from reality.
49:30
It's like talking to someone who exists in a completely separate.
49:34
World. The mental health news is.
49:36
Deeply concerning his. Schizophrenic disorder.
49:39
This is a quote. Meds were changed about a month
49:41
before the murders. A source reveals.
49:44
It threw him into a fast downward spiral.
49:46
He became unpredictable, erratic and even scary to the public, to
49:49
the people who cared about him most.
49:51
Another source adds he's still struggling with his treatment.
49:54
Nothing seems to stabilize him, and reaching him is nearly
49:57
impossible. Makes me wonder how many people
49:59
are visiting him in jail or through the telephone or video
50:04
system. But anyway.
50:07
It's not surprising. To me, if this is true, that
50:10
interview with Alan Jackson, he doubled down on the whole on
50:13
Billy Bush's podcast on what he said at his press conference
50:17
that according to the laws of the state of California, which
50:22
is a huge caveat, Nick Reiner is not guilty of murder.
50:26
That's what he said. And he's like, and I read that
50:28
say, OK, so he's cuckoo. He's he's gone.
50:33
Right, mentally checked out. OK.
50:37
Oh, do you guys? Remember the Caitlin?
50:40
Tracy murder. Let me bring up Caitlin.
50:43
Tracy. You remember this?
50:45
We covered this. He was in Michigan.
50:48
He needed to be extradited. He had all sorts of problems,
50:51
all sorts. This dude, Adam Bacharink, he's
50:54
a problem. Man, he is a problem anyway.
51:01
Attorney charged with murdering. Wife Caitlin Tracy.
51:03
In South loop high rise he is in Chicago and he is now charged
51:08
with his with tracy's murder, a man accused of murdering his
51:12
wife at a South. Loop high rise is back in
51:14
Chicago and appeared in court Tuesday, today, Tuesday morning,
51:18
Chicago. PD announced charges.
51:20
Against Adam Backerink and Caitlin Tracy's murder Tracy's
51:23
parents and their attorney arrived at the Cook County
51:25
Courthouse Tuesday ahead of Backerink's court appearance.
51:29
She was found dead at the bottom of a stairwell stairwell in his
51:32
South Loop condo building in October of 2024.
51:37
He's been charged with one account, one count of first
51:39
degree murder and one count of murder, strong probability
51:42
death, injure, issuance of a warrant, whatever that means.
51:47
Chopper 7 showed Chicago police detectives walking Backer Inc
51:50
into the station at Belmont and Western.
51:53
He was extradited from Michigan where he served a sentence for
51:56
domestic violence against Tracy. So that is moving on.
52:01
And lastly, this is an article from a couple of weeks ago, but
52:07
I thought that I'd bring it back up because her next court date
52:11
is coming up. We believe it is This is Lake
52:15
and Snelling, the University of Kentucky cheerleader or stunt
52:22
team member who who is accused of killing.
52:27
Her own. Newborn baby that is her on the
52:32
left and but anyway she. A date has been set for a grand.
52:43
Jury to hear evidence in the Lake and Snelling case and
52:45
determine whether or not to indict the former small town
52:48
beauty queen and University of Kentucky cheerleader.
52:51
The 22 year old is accused of giving birth in the bedroom of
52:53
her off campus residence in Lexington and then putting the
52:57
baby in a trash bag that she hid inside her closet.
53:01
She waived her right to a preliminary.
53:03
Hearing back in. September, thus sending her case
53:06
to a. Grand.
53:07
Jury A preliminary hearing, a judge would have determined
53:11
whether or not there was probable cause.
53:13
There have been few updates in the case since that time, but a
53:16
subpoena filed in the case and obtained by People reveals that
53:18
a grand jury will hear evidence in the case in late January.
53:24
So that is the update on Lake and Snelling.
53:29
I'm I'm conflicted. On this one.
53:34
Emotionally, I would say, I think that she is.
53:37
I mean, if she did what what they say she did, I think that
53:41
she's guilty. But I also think that there is
53:43
some, there's some mental, mental issue.
53:48
There mental health issue there. So I have, I'm conflicted in my
53:53
heart on that one. Those guys are your headlines.
53:57
True crime headlines. Pow.
54:07
OK, getting to. Your comments, what do we say?
54:11
Just ducky grocery store? I'd play with the intercom
54:15
intercom system or run around in my socks sliding around.
54:18
On the floor. That sounds like a good time,
54:24
but who have? You ever seen the movie The
54:26
Birdcage? Hysterical.
54:27
Yeah. Well, why is it that is?
54:29
Yeah. Robin Williams.
54:32
I I don't. Think that I've actually.
54:34
Ever seen Birdcage? Nathan Lane?
54:37
It's a classic. No, I haven't seen it.
54:41
Promise. J.
54:44
Rhodes, OH. Little sneezy poo there.
54:51
Gavin like. Oh no.
54:53
Promised you Rd. says my husband is Mexican.
54:56
When we first dated he would whisper Spanish in my ear being
54:59
sweet and silly when I asked what he was saying.
55:01
It would always be an ad or something like massive savings
55:07
this weekend at your local supermarket.
55:14
Is this Salvador Super Mercado Sao Sao de Tre?
55:23
Yeah. I remember those being blared on
55:25
loud speakers in cars driving through the little barrios and
55:30
stuff when I was living in Argentina.
55:32
It was so funny. That is funny.
55:34
I why don't? Why did I never think of that?
55:37
Thank you for giving me a great idea.
55:40
That is so funny. Autumn says my father was
55:47
supposed to go to that. Hearing today he does towing for
55:50
police, yet there were tons of tow companies that were there.
55:54
That's a it's a that was tough. I'm sorry your dad.
56:05
Fell. On ice that.
56:06
Sucks, Jenny says in New York. State it is illegal.
56:09
To not move over, move over and get pulled over, try to get.
56:12
Legislation passed in your state?
56:14
Yeah. In Pennsylvania, it's illegal as
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well. We should always be moving.
56:19
Over. Like just always do that, our
56:23
son. I've been really.
56:24
Grateful for his wisdom in his youth, he sometimes will go out
56:29
to calls where he's just like, I don't feel safe here and so.
56:35
He'll call the Pennsylvania. State police, who to their
56:38
credit, and I'm so thankful to them, we'll send personnel.
56:43
Out there. That will get a cruiser to put
56:45
on lights, set up flares and actually move traffic over and
56:52
I'm glad that he does that when he's when he's feeling unsafe,
56:57
Autumn Doyle says. My 3 wishes to be.
56:59
Financially free and my kids to be happy and healthy.
57:02
Well, you are a much better person than I am.
57:04
Autumn Mooney says. You.
57:07
Need to read the Midnight? Library.
57:09
It's about going back in time and seeing what other choices
57:11
could lead to. Written by Matt Haig.
57:14
Yeah, I. I don't I'm not unhappy with
57:19
where my life ended up. And here's the thing.
57:21
OK, listen, I don't read non fiction or I'm sorry, I don't
57:26
read fiction all that often. I currently am like for. 2026 I
57:34
set a goal to. 6 to read 6 novels, and they're all
57:39
classics. They're.
57:40
Huck. Fan The Tale of Two Cities.
57:44
Fahrenheit 451. A couple of others.
57:49
And right now I'm doing. Tale of Two Cities I just, I
57:53
read a lot of nonfiction. I, I, I'm an avid reader, but
57:57
it's mostly biographies and histories that I that I like to
58:01
read. But The Midnight Library.
58:04
Going back in. Time and seeing what other
58:06
choices could lead to do you guys there was that movie with
58:10
Nicolas Cage where he. Got a?
58:12
Glimpse. Of what life would be if he had
58:15
a family? I don't know that I want that.
58:19
Glimpse. I don't want the glimpse.
58:22
Money says I usually don't read too much fiction, but this book
58:25
was great. Well, thank you for the for the
58:27
book or suggestion. Maybe I'll add that to my list.
58:35
All right, Hey. Thanks guys for sticking around
58:36
to the end. I'm not sure if we're we're
58:40
probably going to check in on this.
58:41
Case every couple of days. Because it's just, it's just
58:46
egregious in. The in the chutzpah that was in
58:52
the planning, it's just egregious.
58:53
So we will continue on this one. I did want to point out that
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