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Episode 95 - With Ollie McFarlane (Part 2) · Tom's Hirschsprung's Podcast

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Speaker 1: You are listening to Tom's Hirshprung's Podcast, a space where
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Speaker 1: we talk openly about living with Hirshprung's disease. Whether you
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Speaker 1: live with it, care for someone who has it, or
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Speaker 1: just want to understand more, this podcast is for you.
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Speaker 1: Each episode, we will explore real stories and honest conversations
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Speaker 1: about a condition that often goes unheard. Thank you for
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Speaker 1: tuning in.
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Speaker 2: Hello, and welcome to episode ninety five of Tom's Hirshprung's Podcast.
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Speaker 2: I am delighted to welcome back Ollie for a second part.
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Speaker 2: I'll welcome back Ollie you Tom, how are you doing it?
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Speaker 2: It's so good to be back. It's really good to
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Speaker 2: see you again, really good. We had a cracking part one.
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Speaker 2: We talked about some great stories, made a lot of
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Speaker 2: people laugh. We've got a lot of good comments out
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Speaker 2: of those, pleased a lot of people laugh. Nothing like
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Speaker 2: talking about my traumatic life experiences for the people's music amusement.
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Speaker 2: People love them the trauma. We love it. We love
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Speaker 2: It's all good. What's happening to someone else? Right? Yeah? Yeah?
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Speaker 2: People love it other people's expense, not necessarily their own.
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Speaker 2: We've got some really interesting topics to delve into this
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Speaker 2: afternoon this morning. Sorry completely miss time to date. When
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Speaker 2: is it's going out October? Timers? Relative It's all good,
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Speaker 2: exactly exactly, but yeah, some really really interesting little bits
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Speaker 2: to talk about, just some sort of tips and tricks
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Speaker 2: that you found as you've gone along as a pt.
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Speaker 2: And we'll talk a little bit about a project that
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Speaker 2: you are working on and i'll say the details for
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Speaker 2: that for you too. Yeah, a little bit of a teaser,
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Speaker 2: a little bit of a teaser for later on. But yes,
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Speaker 2: we've got some really really interesting topics to cover, so
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Speaker 2: I guess we'll start from the top really and just
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Speaker 2: little sort of tips and tricks. You said you've been
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Speaker 2: away doing some acrobatics and just come up with sort
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Speaker 2: of some little and things that you found. So as
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Speaker 2: you've been doing that in terms of diets and little
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Speaker 2: bits and pieces, what have you, what have you discovered? Cool?
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Speaker 2: I guess. So this comes with a bit of a preamble,
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Speaker 2: I guess. But cool. So I went on honeymoon this
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Speaker 2: summer two years after being married, and actually, well mate,
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Speaker 2: it was just it's more like, well then finally going.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, it was great what we did, and I
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Speaker 2: recommend that every body does. This is we drove our
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Speaker 2: very old, very kind of clunky and whistley Toyota hyas
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Speaker 2: van down through Europe to Croatia, did acrobatics count for
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Speaker 2: two weeks, and then drove back. We drove down through
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Speaker 2: France Nicaly, and then we drove back through Germany and
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Speaker 2: Luxembourg and Belgium and may top trip if you can
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Speaker 2: in your life drive over the Alps. It's unbelievable. And
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Speaker 2: there's a pub at the top. I didn't know that.
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Speaker 2: And there's a pub pub at the top of the Alps,
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Speaker 2: not through the mod blog channel but the other way,
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Speaker 2: and we go up there is Yeah, Top Trip guys
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Speaker 2: at ten out time recommend it. But anyway, me and
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Speaker 2: my wife, she's very small and I'm very massive, and
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Speaker 2: so we're like, this is a great recipee for an
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Speaker 2: acrobatics duo. Let's go off to acrobatics camp and my friends.
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Speaker 2: Circus people are built different. They are unbelievably strong, unbelievably brave,
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Speaker 2: just very kind of laid back and chilled out despite
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Speaker 2: being very intense about what they do. And we just
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Speaker 2: had two weeks of this amazing atmosphere with all these
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Speaker 2: people who like just sort of jumps off each other
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Speaker 2: at various degrees of like professionalism. I'm believably strong for me,
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Speaker 2: like talking as pt. It was incredible to see. It's
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Speaker 2: a different application of strength. I mean, you know, for
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Speaker 2: the last year I've been working around at powerlifters and
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Speaker 2: body but builders and and uh you know, people that
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Speaker 2: do triathlons and stuff like that, and that's like one
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Speaker 2: application of strength. But acrobatic strength is kind of a
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Speaker 2: different ballgame because it's all about efficiency of movement. It's
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Speaker 2: all about locking into positions. It's all about holding positions
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Speaker 2: for a long time, dynamism, coordination, all of that stuff.
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Speaker 2: So so Tom, if you were jumping off of my shoulders,
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Speaker 2: it's not just you jumping off my shoulders, it's me
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Speaker 2: giving you the kind of impetus to jump as well,
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Speaker 2: meaning you can get more hype, but I'm not squatting
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Speaker 2: too deep otherwise you'll just be pushing me down to
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Speaker 2: It was all like really technical stuff and a lot
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Speaker 2: harder than they make it look. Oh yes, oh yeah,
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Speaker 2: but it was amazing. It was totally Sorry, I've just
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Speaker 2: got an email and that's districted me. I beg your pardon. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: it was very very cool. But I mean, coming back
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Speaker 2: to the hearstprung side of things, really interesting. I've been
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Speaker 2: on quite a strict diet, going into that kind of
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Speaker 2: bodybuilding not bodybuilding photoshoot prep that I'd done, and then
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Speaker 2: coming out of that, the campus was that we were
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Speaker 2: on was basically you were everyone everyone ate a vegan diet.
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Speaker 2: We had these amazing chefs that cook this amazing vegan
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Speaker 2: food and now vegans in the room. I'm not having
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Speaker 2: a go at all. All I am saying is that
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Speaker 2: the changes to my body just based off what I
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Speaker 2: was eating were really really interesting. Interesting how well turns
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Speaker 2: out and I don't know if that I mean right
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Speaker 2: in the comment santomon emo whatever, but turns out And
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Speaker 2: this is a nuanced point I'm about to make, but beans, legumes,
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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff is quite a bloating effect.
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Speaker 2: Because I was you know, and I yeah, I of
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Speaker 2: course that sounds like an obvious thing to say, But
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Speaker 2: when I've been on like such a strict diet of
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Speaker 2: like eggs, turkey, chicken, rice, no pasta that was said, potatoes,
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Speaker 2: things like that, and going from that very kind of
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Speaker 2: single ingredient clean diet to adding loads of beans, legumes,
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Speaker 2: all that kind of stuff and oils. That kind of
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Speaker 2: thinging just how quickly are that inflated was quite interesting
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Speaker 2: and I'd never sort of noticed it before because I've
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Speaker 2: never done a kind of intense dieting phase before. Yeah. Wow,
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Speaker 2: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: How have you had the experience of that kind of thing, Tom, Yeah,
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Speaker 3: I mean it's I think it kind of stands to reason,
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Speaker 3: and I think it is is like I think it
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Speaker 3: happens to everybody else as well as people with Hershbrungs,
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Speaker 3: but I think because we have Herschbrungs, it is it's amplified.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think sorry geographic, but I noticed like
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Speaker 2: the stool element of the eating process changed as well,
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Speaker 2: that there was quite like there was quite shift, shall
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Speaker 2: we say, everybody will know what I'm talking about hopefully,
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Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, it is very much nutrition is. Again,
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Speaker 2: I think nutrition is. It's probably something I don't cover
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Speaker 2: enough on here really, but because I'm not qualified in it,
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Speaker 2: so I don't feel like I can give advice or
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Speaker 2: anything like that. But I think it'd be interesting to
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Speaker 2: bring on, you know, nutritionists and what aren't they because
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Speaker 2: I think we are, we are built differently, aren't we
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Speaker 2: Because because we have hirs sprungs, because we have in
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Speaker 2: varying degrees less intestines than everybody else, less ganglia sales
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Speaker 2: and everybody else, you know, we are going to be
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Speaker 2: different and things like beans, lentils, all sorts are probably
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Speaker 2: going to travel faster, yes, than everybody else. The way
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Speaker 2: I was thinking about it is like we've got one
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Speaker 2: less motorway. So if you imagine like a traffic system,
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Speaker 2: there's like one less there's a couple less roads and
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Speaker 2: so some you know, depending on if you send like
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Speaker 2: a HTV through, that's going to clog up the roads
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Speaker 2: a little bit more. And I think, oh, dude, so interesting.
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Speaker 2: So straight after the photoshoot, right god, super lean, super briined,
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Speaker 2: I my coach says to me, just have a weekend
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Speaker 2: of eating whatever you like because you're hungry. You've earned it,
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Speaker 2: you know, it's your reward. Dude, I'm telling you now.
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Speaker 2: I had a pizza and I felt awful the shift
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Speaker 2: from going from like clean that So okay, here's what
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Speaker 2: I mean by clean diet. I just want to spell
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Speaker 2: us o people. We're looking at broadly eighty percent single ingredient,
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Speaker 2: whole foods with some caveats to that. When I say
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Speaker 2: single ingredients whole foods one of meaner things like your
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Speaker 2: kind of classic proteins, your beef, you chuck in your turkey.
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Speaker 2: We're talking your potatoes, you your rice, all that good stuff. Okay,
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Speaker 2: you veg Okay, So single ingredient does what it says
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Speaker 2: in the ten. This is a broccoli, that's what it is.
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Speaker 2: There are some generally speaking in the PC kind of world,
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Speaker 2: there are some great little exceptions to that. Sour dough
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Speaker 2: bread is amazing, okay, and I know it's not single ingredient.
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Speaker 2: You've got three four ingredients flower, salt, yeast, water. But
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Speaker 2: sour dough bread is great or digestion, and that I
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Speaker 2: would put under the kind of clean eataying single ingredient
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Speaker 2: quote unquote bracket. But basically all that stuff is really
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Speaker 2: easy to digest. Okay, good news everyone. Dark chocolate also
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Speaker 2: is in this category as well, So that's that's cool.
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Speaker 2: Chocolate is amazing, and it's all the other stuff that
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Speaker 2: goes on with chocolate that turns it into a high
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Speaker 2: process food. And anyway, but for I mean, this is
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Speaker 2: my mum's probably rolling her eyes at this point because
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Speaker 2: she's the thing about personal training. Yeah, is all I'm
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Speaker 2: doing is telling you what to do what your mum
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Speaker 2: has always told you to do. Eat good food, exercise, sleep,
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Speaker 2: don't be on your phone all day like it's it's
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Speaker 2: mum's stuff, right, just a very professional, very professional mum. Anyway,
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Speaker 2: eating good food makes a massive difference. And just for
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Speaker 2: anyone with hers bruns, what I would say after going
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Speaker 2: through this very like intensified version of this process of
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Speaker 2: eating food and moving on from and then coming back
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Speaker 2: to you know, and then that that weekend of eating
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Speaker 2: whatever I liked, and you notice the difference. I felt
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Speaker 2: hung over for a few days afterwards, after the after
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Speaker 2: the piece really interesting, like really like, oh I felt sleepy,
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Speaker 2: I felt follow my face was falling off, really bizarre.
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Speaker 2: But just have a look at your diet, okay, And
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Speaker 2: this is something you can message me. Fine, I'll take
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Speaker 2: a look at it. But just keep a little keep
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Speaker 2: a little diary. What are you eating on the day
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Speaker 2: to day. We often think about convenience foods. We often
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Speaker 2: think about all that kind of stuff being kind of processed,
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Speaker 2: and different parts of the world at different levels of
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Speaker 2: processed food to watch out for. But generally speaking, eating
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Speaker 2: these clean, single ingredient foods, it's better for your digestion,
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Speaker 2: it's cheaper in the long run, and it's if you
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Speaker 2: prep it all then it's really accessible throughout the week.
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Speaker 2: Does that make sense? Yeah, no, no, no no, that
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Speaker 2: kind of single food diet does make does make a
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Speaker 2: lot of sense, because as you said, with chocolate, you know,
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Speaker 2: dark chocolate wonderful, but you've got the milk chocolate, you
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Speaker 2: got everything else, and that's you know, a lot of that.
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Speaker 2: That's where that process food comes from, the old processed
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Speaker 2: sort of element. Isn't it totally how that it comes from.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, and look, okay, I'm not one of those
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Speaker 2: guys that's going to turn around and stay seed oil
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Speaker 2: is bad for you and everything processed is made by
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Speaker 2: doll Gates and he's trying to kill you kind of thing.
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Speaker 2: That's not me. What I am saying, though, is if
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Speaker 2: you just generally structure your diet like eighty twenty, so
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Speaker 2: eighty percent whole clean foods twenty percent whatever you like,
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Speaker 2: that's a really good rule of thumb. It's a really
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Speaker 2: really good rule of fun to like just kind of
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Speaker 2: keep everything moving. And yeah, it's awkward stuff, and of course,
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Speaker 2: like homemade stuff is always better as well, so like
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Speaker 2: a homemade cupcake is going to be better for you
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Speaker 2: than a cupcake out of a shop. I'm a sneeze
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Speaker 2: at any moment, so please, I don't know when it's coming,
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Speaker 2: but it's coming, so just pre warn everyone and I'll
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Speaker 2: jack in a bit. Yeah. But I like that though.
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Speaker 2: I like the That's what I really like your approach
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Speaker 2: to personal training because obviously we've both been in we're
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Speaker 2: both still in the sports industry, and but you have
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Speaker 2: some a very realistic approach. Obviously you will help people,
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Speaker 2: help people get better, blah blah blah, but you kind
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Speaker 2: of say, look, it's not you can't ever eat this
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Speaker 2: otherwise you know, yeah, you know everything's going to go
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Speaker 2: wrong and you're immediately going to get really really fat
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Speaker 2: and blah blah blah. You go like, you know, you're
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Speaker 2: just realistic about stuff, and I think that's that's you know,
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Speaker 2: you realize that people have lives, and you realize that
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Speaker 2: people you know, Sometimes you might think, actually, I'll you know,
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Speaker 2: eat this or eat that. But again, I think there
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Speaker 2: is a lot especially on you know, bits and pieces
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Speaker 2: that I see where they say you can't have to,
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Speaker 2: you can't have that, and then that leads to things
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Speaker 2: like eating disorders and all of the horrible stuff that
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Speaker 2: you really really really don't want. And that's why I
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Speaker 2: sort of love about it, really is that sort of yes,
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Speaker 2: we'll help you, yes we'll get you better, fitter, all sorts,
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Speaker 2: but we're also realistic about stuff. Well, yeah, I don't
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Speaker 2: want to live in a world where I can't ever
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Speaker 2: eat cheeseburger again. I don't. You know, McDonald's exists, and
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Speaker 2: it's delicious, and it's designed to be delicious. So making
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Speaker 2: space for it and keeping it in its place is
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Speaker 2: a really healthy way of going about it. It's one
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Speaker 2: of those things it's quite easy to have too much
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Speaker 2: of it, but it's we also don't want to kill
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Speaker 2: it completely, right because yeah, I mean, well, okay, so
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Speaker 2: this is a slight tangent as well. I think from
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Speaker 2: my experience, the biggest, the biggest, the best thing about
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Speaker 2: about doing you know, because being a personal trainer, you
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Speaker 2: have to do the journey as well. You can you know,
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Speaker 2: you can't just sort of tell people to do this
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Speaker 2: and it works and you're sitting on your asset and
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Speaker 2: not doing anything. But I mean, the biggest benefit I've
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Speaker 2: had to my life from going to the gym is
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Speaker 2: gaining a sense of control over food and control over
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Speaker 2: my impulses around food. So I know when it's okay
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Speaker 2: to have them at chis and then sometimes like you
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Speaker 2: just don't need it at the moment, mate, And then
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Speaker 2: I go, oh, yeah, no I don't. It's and actually
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Speaker 2: I'm going to be fuller, I'm going to be more
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Speaker 2: satiates to them, have more energy if I go from
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Speaker 2: a meat potatoes, you know, And dude, potatoes are the best.
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Speaker 2: Can I just throw that out there? You can eat
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Speaker 2: so many of them, so few calories. Just ah, yeah,
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Speaker 2: what you do? Turn your oven on, hi full, whack
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Speaker 2: chopped potatoes down, small little chunks. Throw some garlic in there. Bah,
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Speaker 2: just let them get crisp. But wow, the best love potato.
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Speaker 2: How much you can do with the potato. They're just
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Speaker 2: the most wonderful thing. Bizarre, So this is nuts to me.
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Speaker 2: The potato didn't exist in Europe until the Colombian Exchange.
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Speaker 2: How weird is that? Like we're talking three someone do
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Speaker 2: the mats on this, but like three hundred years ago,
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Speaker 2: potatoes didn't exist in Europe. Really Yeah, I know, yeah,
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Speaker 2: potatoes are a okay, now someone's gonna like get me
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Speaker 2: for this, but I'm quite sure the potatoes didn't exist
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Speaker 2: in Europe until Columbus went over to America and brought
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Speaker 2: some back. I think that's real and bonkers. I know,
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Speaker 2: what do we do as British people? What did we
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Speaker 2: do for food? I thought we always have a time.
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Speaker 2: I just I just assume because they're so ingrained in
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Speaker 2: the culture. I mean, yeah, nuts, I think that's bizarre. Yeah,
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Speaker 2: I'm not saying I'd stay awake at night thinking about it,
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Speaker 2: but it does trouble make all the people before before
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Speaker 2: or the change not knowing what a chip was, Well,
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Speaker 2: now it troubles everyone else because they know no, all
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Speaker 2: right everyone, unless I've got like completely wrong and we
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Speaker 2: get the mother of all takedowns on the internet later on.
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Speaker 2: Actually you'll find the potatoes since Adam and e or whatever.
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Speaker 2: But the wayrazy there we go. But yeah, so in
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Speaker 2: terms of I know you talked to them about the
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Speaker 2: vegan diet acrobatics as well. In terms of when you
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Speaker 2: kind of came back from doing your from from your honeymoon,
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Speaker 2: was it sort of straight back to did you incorporate
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Speaker 2: any more vegan stuff it or was it just straight
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Speaker 2: back to what you've been doing? It was, yeah, I
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Speaker 2: went back, you know, largely went back to what I
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Speaker 2: was eating before, and just because I found it really
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Speaker 2: worked for me. It kept me full and kept me
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Speaker 2: you know, the nutrition side of things. I felt really
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Speaker 2: comfortable with it. It was when you're traveling, I do.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. When you're traveling. Does your stomach do
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Speaker 2: extra interesting things whenever you're on the roads during the holiday.
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Speaker 2: And I know this like the whole go to Spain
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Speaker 2: and you know, get diary and whatever, and it happens
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Speaker 2: to normal people. But I I just think hirst Rum's lot.
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Speaker 2: It just takes a tiny little tap or change of
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Speaker 2: routine for back clips to start happening. Is that Is
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Speaker 2: that true for you as well? Or have I made
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Speaker 2: that up? Yeah? I mean I guess it's if you're
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Speaker 2: at home or whatever, then you've kind of got the
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Speaker 2: safety of knowing that you know you could kind of
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Speaker 2: do what you want, you'll be all right. But when
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Speaker 2: you're out and about, sometimes you have to plan plan ahead,
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Speaker 2: and sometimes you can't. And it's like, you know, I mean,
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Speaker 2: my my job previous to this, I was out and
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Speaker 2: about here, there and everywhere, going to different places and
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Speaker 2: schools and whatnot, and teaching and and you can't necessarily
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Speaker 2: plan ahead because you're teaching and you're in the middle
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Speaker 2: of a class. You got thirty people and it's only you,
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Speaker 2: and you can't just leave. It's so you're like, oh,
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Speaker 2: I can't think about this, and yeah, so you can't.
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Speaker 2: So I guess, and I speak to a lot of
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Speaker 2: people who go, actually, you know how to plan ahead,
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Speaker 2: but just on the like the job front as well.
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Speaker 2: I speak to people who say, oh, well, you know,
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Speaker 2: I want to be this, but I have Hirshbrungs or
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Speaker 2: I want to be that and I have hirshbruns. And like,
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Speaker 2: one of the big things that we're bringing people on
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Speaker 2: here is to kind of show actually, you can be
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Speaker 2: a pt you do in acting, you can and do
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Speaker 2: you can do. I mean that there's there's people who
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Speaker 2: I speak to who are in construction who have Hirshbrungs
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Speaker 2: as people. I mean there's even a guy who is
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Speaker 2: a professional boxer and has hirshbrungs. You know it this this,
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Speaker 2: I guess it's one of those things. Yeah, everyone's different,
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Speaker 2: but kind of planning ahead, you can still do all
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Speaker 2: of those things that you want to do. And I
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Speaker 2: really I would hate for someone to ever say to me,
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Speaker 2: I have heard sprungs and so I can't do X,
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Speaker 2: so that that would really hurt me. Yeah, I mean,
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Speaker 2: it's the thing is, it's so depending on your level
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Speaker 2: of it, it's quite a manageable thing. And also, like activity,
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Speaker 2: all activity is good activity, all movement is given. Okay.
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Speaker 2: So I have also noticed in the kind of getting fitter,
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Speaker 2: getting stronger, eating well, lifting heavy weights, all that kind
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Speaker 2: of stuff, my day to day, week to week symptoms
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Speaker 2: have reduced. I don't get pain as much as they
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Speaker 2: used to. Like it's often overdone. But muscle mass and
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Speaker 2: increasing your muscle mass is such a great way of
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Speaker 2: dealing with life generally, and I think even more so
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Speaker 2: when you've got a digestive problem issue all that kind
20:53
Speaker 2: of stuff. Yeah, being in human health and it's game
20:58
Speaker 2: of cardio. When you I noticed there were a lot
21:00
Speaker 2: more Do you remember lockdown and just kind of sitting
21:03
Speaker 2: around all day Thinking back, sitting around all day over lockdown,
21:08
Speaker 2: I was, I was all over the place. I think
21:12
Speaker 2: it was really I was I was working care at
21:14
Speaker 2: the time, and I just I was always running to
21:16
Speaker 2: the new and all that kind of stuff. Whereas now
21:18
Speaker 2: it's like I've never reflected on this before. Yeah, the
21:24
Speaker 2: weeks and months when I'm sitting around doing nothing and
21:26
Speaker 2: not being active makes such a difference. So guess yeah,
21:29
Speaker 2: peace of a life for everyone. Just get out there,
21:31
Speaker 2: go for a walk. Does it start small? Don't run
21:33
Speaker 2: for five k, Run for five hundred meters the next day,
21:37
Speaker 2: Do a kilometer the next week, do one and a half.
21:41
Speaker 2: Build it up, because I think a lot of people,
21:43
Speaker 2: I mean it sets up. I mean at the time talking,
21:46
Speaker 2: it's September, and a lot of people go right now,
21:49
Speaker 2: after they've been on the summer holidays, they go, now
21:50
Speaker 2: I'm going to get back in the gym. Now I'm
21:52
Speaker 2: going to do all this stuff. Now I'm going to
21:53
Speaker 2: finally do it. And what they do is they try
21:54
Speaker 2: to forced gym sessions a week. They try to run
21:57
Speaker 2: five k day and they get to day two and
21:59
Speaker 2: they think, I can't be bothered, right, And I remember
22:04
Speaker 2: being in that. I call it David Goggins mindset. You know,
22:07
Speaker 2: David Goggins is no, he's an Internet guy and he
22:12
Speaker 2: was a guy that like lost I don't know the
22:17
Speaker 2: numbers on it, but kind of two hundred pounds in
22:20
Speaker 2: six weeks to get into the Marines or whatever. And
22:22
Speaker 2: he's like, I do a thousand push ups every day.
22:24
Speaker 2: I do five thousand pull ups. I run for two marathons.
22:27
Speaker 2: And you know he does. I'm not saying he doesn't it.
22:29
Speaker 2: He totally does. But like he is a very unique
22:32
Speaker 2: individual and most people are not like that. I'm not like,
22:37
Speaker 2: I've got at workouts to you later on with some
22:39
Speaker 2: cardoon of suns out. You know, I've got to go
22:42
Speaker 2: for a run, But like I built that up of
22:44
Speaker 2: a time. The reason I can run for as long
22:46
Speaker 2: as I can is because I started doing in like
22:48
Speaker 2: ten minute runs okay, and then built it up to
22:51
Speaker 2: fifteen and then twenty a man doing half an hour
22:53
Speaker 2: and I feel fine, right, But if you'd asked me,
22:56
Speaker 2: gosh a year ago to run for half an hour
23:00
Speaker 2: it I'd have said yes and give it a go,
23:03
Speaker 2: but it wouldn't have gone well. And so like lads,
23:06
Speaker 2: build it up from small too large and get yourself
23:10
Speaker 2: some accountability, get yourself community. Just because human beings are
23:16
Speaker 2: pack animals, we live in tribes. We motivation is kind
23:21
Speaker 2: of a scam. You're not a motivated person because you
23:24
Speaker 2: feel like it. You do things because other people need
23:27
Speaker 2: you to and other people are supporting you in that.
23:32
Speaker 2: It's a stupid example. And I know this is very
23:34
Speaker 2: this is like kind of Mani Spere kind of talk,
23:36
Speaker 2: but like, you don't go out and hunt the buffalo
23:40
Speaker 2: because you feel motivated to do it. You go out
23:43
Speaker 2: and hunt the buffalo because your community needs to right
23:47
Speaker 2: and your community is doing that with you. And that's
23:50
Speaker 2: that's white super Cris Williamston for a minute. But yeah,
23:53
Speaker 2: like that's the thing. Doing things in community building up
23:57
Speaker 2: from scratch, that's the way to go. Yeah, yeah, definitely definitely.
24:01
Speaker 2: I think that that's why you know, things like running
24:03
Speaker 2: clubs in uh, you know, and that's why gyms work
24:08
Speaker 2: so successfully because you know, if you were the only
24:11
Speaker 2: person in the gym, probably chances are you probably wouldn't
24:14
Speaker 2: do a lot. Yeah, and then some some people do.
24:17
Speaker 2: Some people go to the gym and they're they're very
24:19
Speaker 2: you know, motivated to do stuff, and that's great. But
24:23
Speaker 2: a lot of that's why a lot of well this
24:25
Speaker 2: is why a lot of gym's work so well because
24:28
Speaker 2: there are so many people in there, and you know,
24:30
Speaker 2: you don't want to be that person that doesn't do
24:33
Speaker 2: so well. And yeah, and getting getting someone alongside who
24:36
Speaker 2: knows what they're doing as well. Yes, you know whatever,
24:40
Speaker 2: find a friend, talked to me, whatever you need like
24:43
Speaker 2: that's the job, right. So yeah, I mean I have
24:48
Speaker 2: a coach. I've got a personal trainer, and he's sort
24:52
Speaker 2: of he's an online personal trainer. I don't train with
24:54
Speaker 2: him in person, but having him there that I have
25:00
Speaker 2: to check in with every week, how's it gone, you know,
25:02
Speaker 2: talk to about what's going on. That, for lack of
25:07
Speaker 2: a better word, makes me go to the gym. It's
25:11
Speaker 2: he set me the plan and he knows what the
25:12
Speaker 2: roo map is. He's in charge of all of it.
25:14
Speaker 2: I just have to it's a really bad phrase, but
25:17
Speaker 2: in the in the industry, we say, you know they
25:19
Speaker 2: I say, I was training you and I give you
25:23
Speaker 2: the gun. I give you the loaded gun. You just
25:24
Speaker 2: have to fire it, right, So he's giving me the
25:28
Speaker 2: loaded gun. I have to and you know I know
25:30
Speaker 2: that come much use the check in. He's gonna see
25:35
Speaker 2: he's going to know whether I have or haven't, which
25:37
Speaker 2: means I go when I really don't feel like going,
25:40
Speaker 2: and then I feel better for it afterwards. And yeah, definitely,
25:46
Speaker 2: and that what people are motivated by as well as
25:50
Speaker 2: you know, people are. Some are motivated by achievement, Some
25:53
Speaker 2: are motive by fear of failure. Some people don't want
25:56
Speaker 2: to you know, they're motivated more by the feeling they
26:01
Speaker 2: might have that they won't succeed. But then some people
26:03
Speaker 2: are motivated by the feeling that they'll have when they
26:06
Speaker 2: achieve whatever it is the set to achieve. So it's yeah,
26:10
Speaker 2: I think everybody is motivated differently. Yeah, I think everybody
26:14
Speaker 2: is motivated differently. But yeah, no, it's really interesting that
26:19
Speaker 2: that kind of and I know kind of circle back
26:22
Speaker 2: with Hirshrungs that the people I've spoken to who and
26:27
Speaker 2: it doesn't necessarily have to be Hirsprungs. It can be
26:29
Speaker 2: a lot of you know, ibd ibs. Gut related issues
26:35
Speaker 2: have benefited so so much from health and exercise. And
26:41
Speaker 2: when we're not talking like running marathons here, we're just talking,
26:46
Speaker 2: you know, just sort of consistent, consistent exercise and finding
26:52
Speaker 2: something you like doing as well, I think really really helps.
26:55
Speaker 2: I know, people that go I just don't like running.
26:57
Speaker 2: I don't want to do running. I don't like running. Okay,
27:00
Speaker 2: there's hundreds of thousands of activities that you can do
27:05
Speaker 2: that don't It's what people think, you know, every every
27:08
Speaker 2: set downside. You said we with September and January. Isn't
27:11
Speaker 2: it the two times where people buy their new running
27:15
Speaker 2: shoes and they go, I'm gonna run ten miles a day?
27:17
Speaker 2: You know you're not. You know, so if you don't
27:20
Speaker 2: want to run, find something else to do, that's absolutely fine,
27:25
Speaker 2: absolutely fine. And segueing on other things to do, yes,
27:31
Speaker 2: you have, we teased it at the beginning, but you
27:36
Speaker 2: have a a new project sort of lined up. What
27:40
Speaker 2: it is that project? It is, okay, so very clear
27:43
Speaker 2: that everybody, Okay, this is this is a something that
27:47
Speaker 2: currently exists in Embryonic Forum, and it's it's kind of
27:51
Speaker 2: a something that's Me and my cousin are kind of
27:55
Speaker 2: spitballing at each other, chucking ideas off the wall. Right. Okay.
27:58
Speaker 2: So in my career as a personal training so far,
28:03
Speaker 2: I have trained a couple of pre and postnatal women. Okay,
28:10
Speaker 2: now here is what concerns me about pre and postnatal women.
28:15
Speaker 2: The lack of education and understanding about how important building
28:24
Speaker 2: up physical bodily strength pre and post pregnancy and birth is. Now, Ladies,
28:31
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that this is your fault for not
28:33
Speaker 2: knowing about this. The problem is that you've never been told. Okay,
28:38
Speaker 2: and you've never there's never been a kind of system
28:41
Speaker 2: of making birth as easy as it can be. Okay,
28:48
Speaker 2: we have to understand. Look, ladies listening to this, I
28:52
Speaker 2: know that you're going you're bloke, what do you know?
28:54
Speaker 2: Let me just tell you, like, my understanding of this,
28:56
Speaker 2: my understanding of all birth is that it is the
28:58
Speaker 2: mount everest of human physical achievement. Okay, you see the Olympics,
29:02
Speaker 2: we see people deadlifting, have ton we see these massive strength.
29:07
Speaker 2: That is like base camp compared to giving birth. It
29:13
Speaker 2: is the most important thing that people do. And it's
29:17
Speaker 2: just the I like to think of it as the
29:18
Speaker 2: most intense human experience there is. Okay, and it tastes
29:24
Speaker 2: again lazier given birth. Don't you don't need me to
29:29
Speaker 2: tell you this. It takes a massive toll on your body. Okay.
29:34
Speaker 2: I was talking to someone recently who described and this
29:37
Speaker 2: is this. I don't think it's bit graphic. She sort
29:40
Speaker 2: of said to me, it's like your body gets ripped
29:41
Speaker 2: in half. Okay, and I thought, whoa, that's intense. I
29:46
Speaker 2: don't know what that's like. But the amount of research
29:50
Speaker 2: out there showing that building muscle women building muscle mass,
29:53
Speaker 2: and how much how many better outcomes there are as
29:57
Speaker 2: a result of kind of having strong bodies going into
30:00
Speaker 2: this whole process and then building up strong bodies after
30:04
Speaker 2: the process, The amount of research is kind of overwhelming.
30:08
Speaker 2: Building muscle mass, ladies, is really really good for you.
30:13
Speaker 2: I have an unbelievable, unbelievably perfect, anecdotal example of this
30:21
Speaker 2: from my honeymoon. Would you like to hear it? Tom?
30:24
Speaker 2: Absolutely great. So we're training with these with this couple.
30:30
Speaker 2: They're an acrobatic couple, and basically she stands on top
30:33
Speaker 2: of his hands and he pushes her up on the
30:35
Speaker 2: air and all that stuff. Right now, this lady had
30:38
Speaker 2: given birth five weeks prior, and she was standing on
30:43
Speaker 2: top of her husband teaching us all how to do
30:47
Speaker 2: a movement, holding her baby and breastfeeding. I tell no lies.
30:54
Speaker 2: This is a lady who has been doing acrobatics for
30:58
Speaker 2: a long long time. Her body is credible physical condition
31:01
Speaker 2: right and she is able to bounce back from giving
31:07
Speaker 2: birth to cracking on teaching a class while breastfeeding this
31:11
Speaker 2: new baby standing high at top, high on top of
31:14
Speaker 2: her husband, who is not a small dude. Right now, ladies,
31:18
Speaker 2: a'ma saying that you need to be able to do that. No,
31:21
Speaker 2: but I think it demonstrates how important physical preparation for
31:26
Speaker 2: childbirth is so that your body could bounce back to
31:29
Speaker 2: doing all the things that you wanted to do. This
31:33
Speaker 2: is kind of on my brain. You know, had a
31:34
Speaker 2: few family members give birth recently and just kind of
31:36
Speaker 2: seeing the impact that it's had, And I just think
31:41
Speaker 2: it's really very important for women to get hench, regardless
31:47
Speaker 2: of whether you want to have kids or not. So
31:50
Speaker 2: this is the kind of spitball idea, and this is
31:52
Speaker 2: where we need kind of active feedback from you, the listeners.
31:58
Speaker 2: I suppose what I want to hear from women who
32:00
Speaker 2: are thinking about giving birth, who are pregnant themselves, who
32:04
Speaker 2: have just given birth. What is it that you wish
32:08
Speaker 2: you knew going into childbirth, What would be a service
32:13
Speaker 2: that you wish you had in terms of your physical preparation,
32:17
Speaker 2: and what what problems with the whole with the kind
32:23
Speaker 2: of current system are there. Okay, So if you're in
32:27
Speaker 2: Britain right, we've got an NHS system, there's a there's
32:31
Speaker 2: a certain pathway for women going in with pre and
32:34
Speaker 2: post natal things there, which is great. It's like, what
32:38
Speaker 2: is lacking from that because at the moment, what we're
32:41
Speaker 2: looking to do just myself as a PC, my cousin
32:44
Speaker 2: has a has a master's degree in public health and menopause,
32:47
Speaker 2: and so we're we're just kind of thinking about this
32:49
Speaker 2: at the moment. Where could we plug a gap that
32:51
Speaker 2: currently that is current, that currently doesn't exist on inland
32:56
Speaker 2: market basically, and what would you be looking for and
32:59
Speaker 2: what we're looking looking forward to design service for the
33:01
Speaker 2: whole the whole arc of pregnancy, so pre pregnancy, pre natal,
33:08
Speaker 2: post natal. That's kind of the idea at the moment,
33:11
Speaker 2: but we kind of wanted to be is there a
33:12
Speaker 2: market for it out there? Is this something that people want?
33:15
Speaker 2: Is it something that would be considered useful? And yeah,
33:21
Speaker 2: just in my background of strength training and my cousins
33:24
Speaker 2: background in public health and so if we have any
33:28
Speaker 2: specialists listening in kind of pre ap prostnatal, please get
33:31
Speaker 2: in touch. We would love to hear from you. And
33:33
Speaker 2: also Ladies who have had kids, please get in touch.
33:36
Speaker 2: We'd love to hear from you. And ladies that are
33:37
Speaker 2: thinking about having kids, please get in touch. We'd love
33:40
Speaker 2: to hear from you. This is not a set service
33:42
Speaker 2: as it is. I kind of exist as a personal
33:44
Speaker 2: online personal trainer and I train women all the time
33:46
Speaker 2: and I get them really strong and that's great, and
33:48
Speaker 2: so that kind of part of the that kind of
33:50
Speaker 2: part of the thing is there. But yeah, we're looking
33:52
Speaker 2: to kind of branch into this, into this area which
33:56
Speaker 2: we feel better outcomes for women. Like every other physical
34:04
Speaker 2: endevor we go for you prep for Okay, if you're
34:07
Speaker 2: climbing Mount Everest, you prep for it. If you go
34:09
Speaker 2: into the Olympics, you prep for it. If you're doing
34:11
Speaker 2: your school sports day, you prep for it. Right, But
34:15
Speaker 2: with birth we kind of think, oh, yeah, women could
34:17
Speaker 2: just kind of do that, And yes, women you can,
34:20
Speaker 2: You're amazing. But wouldn't it be great if it was easier?
34:22
Speaker 2: Right there we go. That's my pitch. So ladies, if
34:28
Speaker 2: you're listening, please do get in touch. Yeah, I'd love
34:31
Speaker 2: to hear from you and see what see what we
34:34
Speaker 2: can design basically excellent. I think that's again on the
34:38
Speaker 2: face of an amazing idea, and people might think there
34:41
Speaker 2: are two blokes talking about childbirth. Yeah, elder than but
34:46
Speaker 2: but booth kids. Yeah on. But just from what I've seen,
34:50
Speaker 2: it looks really tough, right, And I haven't experienced that myself.
34:55
Speaker 2: So if it looks tough, it must certainly be more
34:58
Speaker 2: tough than it looks, right, Yeah, definitely, definitely. But I think,
35:06
Speaker 2: as you said, there's a huge gap. I mean, I
35:10
Speaker 2: know we were talking a little bit off air about this,
35:13
Speaker 2: and just from from my experience of working in high
35:19
Speaker 2: level women's sport, there's not a lot that's talked about.
35:23
Speaker 2: I mean I used to coach high level women's cricket
35:28
Speaker 2: and the women who were in there sort of twenties thirties,
35:32
Speaker 2: thinking about having children. And you go to the board
35:35
Speaker 2: and you say, you know what, what plans have you
35:39
Speaker 2: got in place? What? You know? What what? What what
35:42
Speaker 2: are we doing? Are we doing strength training? We do?
35:44
Speaker 2: You know? What are we talking about professional athletes here?
35:47
Speaker 2: You know, what what are we doing here? And their
35:50
Speaker 2: response is kind of well, not sure, you know, and
35:54
Speaker 2: that's not good enough. That's really not good enough. And
35:57
Speaker 2: I think, as I said as well, well, in terms
36:02
Speaker 2: of this podcast and it's analytics. There's eighty percent of
36:07
Speaker 2: listeners to this show are women, majority between ages of
36:13
Speaker 2: twenty five to forty. And so I think is that
36:21
Speaker 2: feedback is going to be really really important, really really important.
36:25
Speaker 2: And I think, like we said, you know, we're two
36:28
Speaker 2: guys talking about it, we need we need the feedback
36:32
Speaker 2: because we can't. As qualified as you are and as
36:37
Speaker 2: qualified as your cousin is, tailoring that program is going
36:41
Speaker 2: to be so so important with feedback of people who've
36:45
Speaker 2: been through it or are potentially looking at going through childbirths. Yeah, yeah, totally.
36:52
Speaker 2: And I think here's the thing. I mean again, it's like,
36:54
Speaker 2: why do you I think it's important to kind of
36:57
Speaker 2: say this. Why should I a bloke care kind of?
37:02
Speaker 2: If you think about it, the whole of human society
37:04
Speaker 2: is geared around children, Okay, and it's geared around raising
37:08
Speaker 2: the next areas with what the economies grow so that
37:10
Speaker 2: we make a better life for our children. We want
37:13
Speaker 2: good health services so we don't know that our children
37:15
Speaker 2: are going to be all right, And we want good
37:18
Speaker 2: facilities so our kids can get educated. You know, the
37:19
Speaker 2: whole thing revolves around kids, right, And there's pros and
37:25
Speaker 2: cons of that, but like it seems strange to me. Okay,
37:29
Speaker 2: find the whole of societies around kids, but what about
37:31
Speaker 2: the health of their mothers? Right, It's very important now
37:34
Speaker 2: of course, lad if you're listening to this as well,
37:36
Speaker 2: there's lots of good reasons that you should get in
37:38
Speaker 2: good shape as well. But you know, we're talking about
37:40
Speaker 2: a specific demographic here, and I think, yeah, I'm it's
37:45
Speaker 2: an idea that I've It's kind of been floating around
37:47
Speaker 2: in my brain for a while and I think all
37:51
Speaker 2: I need is to see if I'm barking up the
37:54
Speaker 2: wrong tree or not, because it might be. And yeah,
37:59
Speaker 2: I think I need some live feedback. So ladies, if
38:02
Speaker 2: you would get in touch, that would be great. Yeah, yeah,
38:06
Speaker 2: I know there are a lot of people that follow
38:08
Speaker 2: me that also follow you as well that are Hirshprung's moms.
38:12
Speaker 2: And it doesn't have to be hirshprunk moms. It can
38:14
Speaker 2: be any mums to get in touch, you know, but
38:19
Speaker 2: it's it's it's something I think that is it would
38:24
Speaker 2: be really interesting to sort of catch up with you
38:27
Speaker 2: maybe six months down the line as you come back
38:30
Speaker 2: on this this show and we catch up and see
38:35
Speaker 2: you know, see how it's gone. You know what feedback
38:39
Speaker 2: you got, because I imagine you'll get plenty of feedback
38:43
Speaker 2: once this goes out. Yeah, totally, totally, And like if
38:47
Speaker 2: I'm just going to offer one piece of advice to
38:50
Speaker 2: women who are thinking by getting pregnant or are pregnant
38:52
Speaker 2: or postpregnancy, I just said, yeah, the same word about
38:55
Speaker 2: four times. But pelvic floor, strengthen you pelvic floor. What
38:59
Speaker 2: that looks like, it's goooper it is, And what that
39:01
Speaker 2: looks like is some sys up variation just to strengthen
39:05
Speaker 2: your core very important planks as well, very good. But yeah,
39:10
Speaker 2: if you want more details on what those are and
39:12
Speaker 2: little how to again, just message me, super happy, super
39:16
Speaker 2: happy to send those over. But yeah, I mean it's everything.
39:20
Speaker 2: It's not just like core, it's also things like I
39:25
Speaker 2: understand that some woman post natal post natal experience is
39:31
Speaker 2: really bad joint pain, and just like strengthening up the
39:34
Speaker 2: muscles and ligaments around your joints very important for the
39:39
Speaker 2: rest of your life, getting up out of chairs, bending
39:42
Speaker 2: over and picking empy keys, all that kind of stuff. Yeah,
39:47
Speaker 2: so feedback for these ladies, let us know, we'd love
39:51
Speaker 2: to hear and we can start designing this thing if
39:55
Speaker 2: there is a need for it. Absolutely well, I think
39:58
Speaker 2: this is Yeah, I think that's a fantastic idea and
40:01
Speaker 2: obviously wish you and your cousin very much the best
40:05
Speaker 2: for it. Just in terms of how people do get
40:08
Speaker 2: in contact and message will we'll probably we'll link everything
40:12
Speaker 2: down below, but just in case, in case they don't know,
40:14
Speaker 2: how do they get in contact, Well, they get in
40:16
Speaker 2: contact with me on Instagram at Big Friendly person Oh
40:20
Speaker 2: my gosh, I'm gona try that again. They get in
40:22
Speaker 2: contact with me at Big Friendly Personal Training and Big
40:25
Speaker 2: Friendly Personal Training. Because I'm very tall, I've got massive
40:27
Speaker 2: ears BFG Rodell. It's a joke, and that's my personal
40:32
Speaker 2: training page. If you want to keep keep your breast
40:34
Speaker 2: with my acting page, it's at O double L I
40:38
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Speaker 2: O double L I Underscore and c F. Whoa, it's complicated.
40:49
Speaker 2: Listen to the whole podcast. Everyone, fantastic. Well, it has
40:54
Speaker 2: been brilliant to have you on again, brilliant to chat
40:58
Speaker 2: to you. I'm sure we'll catch up again and in
41:01
Speaker 2: the future we'll catch up on all your comings and goings.
41:04
Speaker 2: Acting career and all sorts of things that you're up to.
41:08
Speaker 2: But it has been amazing to have you on again
41:10
Speaker 2: and obviously wish you the very best with your your
41:13
Speaker 2: new ventures. Weld cheers and we'll see if it is
41:16
Speaker 2: a thing. And yeah, definitely keep you updated with all
41:19
Speaker 2: of that best seleuct with your I mean, I know
41:21
Speaker 2: why this times comes out, it'll be over a best
41:23
Speaker 2: selluct with your sort of challenge. I hope you nail
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Speaker 2: that NTE smashing to see you your top lad, Thank
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