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BABY BIRDING OURSELVES · The Karen Kenney Show

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Karen Kenney: It's the Karen Kenney Show. Hey, you guys,
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welcome to the Karen Kenney Show. I'm super duper excited to
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be here with you today. And today is like kind of an
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interesting episode in that it has to do with a lot of bees,
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like the letter B, so it has to do with baby birds and bugs, it
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has to do with our bodies, a book, and a band. I swear, I
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swear, it's all gonna make sense if you just buckle up for
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safety, stick around, find out where all this is going. So, of
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course, it's going to start with a couple of stories. Okay, and
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I'm going to bring all of these elements together. Remember,
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baby birds and bugs are bodies, a book and a band. Okay, but
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stay with me. I promise it's gonna make sense. Okay, so I'm a
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Gen X kid, right? Like, I'm about to be 58 and so the
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millennials are kind of like the group that's like right behind
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us. These are the people that were born, I think, from like 81
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to whatever, I don't know what that is, 95 or something like
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that. Oh my god. Okay, so you know how on the internet people
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put up like little memes or they make little graphics with quotes
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or whatever, right? And I'll never forget seeing. Oh my god,
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I'll never forget seeing, and I'm not going to name names or
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do anything like that, but I just remember seeing one day
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this person who was a quote unquote coach of some kind, and
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they're, they're younger, right, they're in the millennial group,
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I don't know their exact age, and they put up a quote, kind of
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like making, making it like look like it was their quote, like
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it's an original thought, right? And literally, this is what it
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said. It said, quote, "Hold on loosely, but don't let go, hold
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on loosely but don't let go, right? And I was just like, I
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saw it, and I just started. First of all, I was looking
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immediately for the attribution, right, to give credit to, like,
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who actually, where this phrase and saying actually came from,
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but they never did, and right away, like, I go to the comment
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section, because I know those of us who are old enough to know
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where this quote comes from. Those of us who are old enough,
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as soon as we hear that phrase, hold on loosely, but don't let
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go, our brain automatically fills in the rest, right? If you
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squeeze too tightly, you're going to lose control. So this
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was, if you're not aware, if you don't know the band 38 Special,
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this was like a huge hit that they had back in like 1981
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right? It's like the opening line is like you see it all
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around you, good loving gone bad. Oh my god. Okay, so this
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person is putting up like this little piece of wisdom, right,
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as if it's their original thought, and everybody in the
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comments were like, you know, putting the 38 special quotes
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into it, like, dude, this is a song from, like, 81 or whatever,
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oh my god, it was so freaking funny, but I want to talk about
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this, because the essence of this message is, you know, what
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this, what this episode is about today, and the song, and I'm
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gonna, it's all gonna make sense, the baby birds, the bugs,
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whatever. Okay, but it goes on to say this in the song, because
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this will come into play later. It says your baby needs someone
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to believe in, and then this is the key line, and a whole lot of
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space to breathe in, right. So this is all about this concept
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of being in a relationship and not being like suffocating, like
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yes, be supportive, right, but don't be suffocating, and this
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is about in relation to others, like when you're around others,
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and this is how a lot of relationships go bad, is people
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get weird, or people get jealous, or people try to get
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controlling, and they try to control everything, right, but
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they, they're too suffocating, it's like too much, and this is
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how a lot of relationships can end, right, so see it all around
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you, good love and good bad, but okay, so it starts with this
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meme in this band of 38 specials saying hold on loosely but don't
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let go.
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This is really great advice in a lot of ways that we can apply
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towards ourselves, right? But what, what made me want to do
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this episode is first of all I was thinking about that story.
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My sweetie is a professional musician, right? So I will often
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try, and I quiz him, like I'll just yell down from up here in
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my writing office, and I'll be like, I'll go over the, like,
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there's a tiny little balcony right there, and I'll be like,
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sweetie, right, like, who's this, and I'll play like two
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seconds of a song for him, or whatever, and I'm always
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quizzing him, because he freaking knows it's so hard for.
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Me to like stump them, you know. Okay, so hold this idea in your
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mind, hold on loosely, but don't let go. And I started thinking
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about this again, because we live here out in the woods, so
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like every time you open the door, especially in the later
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hours of the day, something flies in, whether it's a moth,
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right, a mosquito, a bug, or whatever, and I try not to kill
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anything. I'm gonna do a whole episode on that. I have my
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panties in a bunch right now about people killing spiders,
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right? Like, I'm like, "Oh, so I'm gonna do a whole podcast at
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some point about that, but so whenever something flies into
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the house, a lot of let's just say it's a moth, I tried to
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rescue them and get to them before Bunchy does, because
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Bunchy is not.. I don't even think he.. I don't know if no,
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if he'll eat them, but he tries to like step on them and grab
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them with his mouth, and I'm like, oh my god, no. But the
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thing is, when you're trying to rescue something, when you're
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trying to save something, you cannot hold it too tightly, so
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if I can capture whether it's a fly or a moth or a bug of some
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kind, right, you've got to hold it loosely, but because if you
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hold it too tight, you're going to kill it, you're going to
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crush its wings, right. So, a lot of times when we think we're
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trying to be helpful and it's like, oh, I'm going to grab this
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thing and I got to make sure that I get it, you know, I get
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it outside, but it's like, if you're not careful, if you're a
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little too aggressive in your efforts, then you're going to
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cause more harm than you're going to do good, and we do this
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to ourselves as well. And when I started thinking about, right,
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like the whole song and the band 38 special, and thinking about
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the bugs and stuff like that, I was like, a lot of times this is
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us in relationship, you know, to like other things, like when
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we're, we put too much pressure on other people, we put too much
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pressure on the relationship, we put too much pressure on people
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to be a certain way, or whatever, and it comes back to
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that whole thing, right, your baby needs a whole lot of space
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to breathe in, there has to be room for, you know, for them to
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be themselves, that's really the heartbeat of that, but when
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we're applying it to ourselves, it is so often that we put so
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much pressure on ourselves to change, to heal, to figure it
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out, to process it. I got to do it, I gotta do it, but the
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reality is, is that we also need room and time. We need space,
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and we need time to grow, and to change, and to process, and to
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heal.
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And if we're not careful, and if we put too much pressure on
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ourselves, we're actually doing more harm to ourselves than we
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are being helpful, and this comes to this idea of the baby
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birds, so I remember learning about because we, again, I've
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talked about this in the past, like many, many, many episodes
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ago, that my sweetie and I, but you know, will often stop if
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there's an injured animal, if we see something on the side of the
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road, and my sweetie has found a couple of baby birds, like
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little birds that needed to be rescued and helped, and the
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thing is, again, when you're picking up a bird that has been
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hurt, and especially baby birds, you have to hold them in your
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hand in such a way that if you cannot hold it too tight, you
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got to hold it tight enough to secure it, so it doesn't fall
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out of your hand and fall on the ground and get hurt, or
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whatever, get injured or more injured. You have to hold it
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firmly enough and tightly enough to secure it and to make it
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safe, but if you squeeze it too tightly, you're going to harm
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it, right? You want it to be, yes, warm and held and secure,
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so it feels safe in your hands, but you don't want to suffocate
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it. So we want safety, but we do not want suffocation, right?
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Just like in relationships, you want to be supportive, but you
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don't want to be suffocating. So we need to baby bird ourselves
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sometimes, right? We need to learn how to hold on in such a
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way where it's like I talk about this sometimes when we're giving
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feedback to somebody, or we're setting a boundary with
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somebody, or we have to have a difficult conversation with
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somebody, and we're like, "Ah, this is going to be wicked
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awkward, and I don't know how I'm gonna do this, you know,
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it's like, how can I have this conversation, and I kind of
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think about it like this. It's like, we want to be loving but
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firm, so we want to be nurturing, we want to be
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nourishing, we want to be caring, but we also want to be
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firm, and we want to have good boundaries, and we want to be
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not like, what's the word I'm looking for, not swept up in our
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emotions. We want to be a little bit more rational, or maybe,
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maybe the better word is like pragmatic. Do you know what I'm
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saying? We want to be relational, but we don't want to
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be like, we don't want to come out of the gate wicked hot,
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right? Like, that's what I always say. Let's say, when
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we're trying to. Neck with people, we're trying to set a
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boundary, or to have a conversation, or to give you
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know feedback, loving but firm. And so there is a really great
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case for going gently, right? Don't hold too tight, hold on
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loosely, but don't let go, you know what I'm saying, and it
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made me also think, so now we have the band, and we have we
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have the bugs and the baby birds, and I don't know what
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I'll call this episode, maybe I'll call it baby birding
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ourselves, right, because I think so often when we're trying
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to heal something, and whether it's a physical ailment, right,
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like oh, I tweak my back or I hurt my knee or my foot, my
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ankle, whatever the thing is, right. We just want to feel
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better, and we want it to heal fast. We want it to heal quick.
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We want it to get it over with. It's like, what can I do? Should
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I ice it? Should I do this? Should I take it? You know,
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should I take some Advil? Should I do this? Should I? Should I
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stretch it? Like, we're like, I don't want to feel this way
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anymore, and I want results now, like fast. And we do that
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physically to our bodies, but we also do it to ourselves
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emotionally. So, let's say, because we cannot separate the
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mind and the body, they are always affecting one another,
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right?
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And when we look at things like chronic pain, or we look at
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things like long-term conditions, when we look at
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things like everything from like migraines to urinary, urinary
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afflictions, right, or conditions, IBS, irritable bowel
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syndrome, etc. anxiety, right, when we have these things that
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tend to stick around for a long time, that they're no longer
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just acute moments, that they become chronic. We get a little
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fed up, we get a little tired of feeling exhausted, or feeling
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uncomfortable in our own bodies, or feeling anxious, or feeling
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scared, or whatever, whatever the symptoms that come up in
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your body are, and we tend to try to force things, we tend to
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respond in a way where we're not very kind to ourselves. And how
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do I say this? The medical profession are not always
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trained also in being gentle with us and really knowing how
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to listen or having good bedside manna, right, and stuff like
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that. So, there's a fantastic book. Here's the book pot that
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I'm reading that I love. I've recommended it to several people
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already, and it's by Dr. Sula Wingasen, and it's called It's
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All in Your Body. I'm holding the book up right now. It's such
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a cool cover. So, it's called It's All in Your Body, and it
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says a practical road map to healing through the mind body
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connection, and the title is in response to she had some chronic
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stuff going on, and so many, and I can tell you this, as somebody
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who has IBS, how many times, or I should say, somebody who is
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healing from, and you know, navigating my IBS symptoms and
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stuff, are like 1000 times better than they used to be, but
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I still have flare-ups, and I still have incidents, you know.
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But right on the back of this book, she says the thing that so
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many of us have been told so many times, that it's all in our
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head, and this book is the premise of says it's not all in
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your head, and she talks about whether you suffer from burnout,
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long-term fatigue, IBS, chronic pain, and trauma, or mystery
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symptoms. Dr. Sulla uses the mind-body social model of
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psychotherapy to help you understand what's happening in
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your body and to take practical positive steps forward, so you
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guys, I recommend this book. It's really fascinating. It's
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really interesting, and you learn so much about how your
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body affects your mind and how your mind affects your body. And
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why I want to talk about this is like in this idea of like baby
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birding ourselves, or when you're picking up a bug that you
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want, or you know that you want to help, and let it heal, but we
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don't want to do harm to it. We have to kind of take the same
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approach to our own health and healing, right. And I made a
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note to myself here, it says we also need this approach towards
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ourselves for our health and our healing, and even also I'm going
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to add, as a writer, your creativity and your craft,
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because sometimes we hold on to an idea and we insist on playing
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it out, whether this is in your business too, you've seen it
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before, when something just isn't working and you're so
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attached to something being a particular way, so you keep
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trying to make it work, and you keep trying to do the marketing
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for a thing, and you keep, like, whether it's working with a
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human being, like a partner, whether it's implementing a
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marketing plan, or trying to do a program, or a project, or
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whatever. Sometimes, if we hold on too tight, there's no room
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for the thing to take its natural progression of growth or
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expansion, or, you know.
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In the case of bodies healing, and so I love this book for a
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lot of different reasons, and I want to share something that she
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says, because I know for myself, like right now I'm back in the
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gym, right, and my sweetie and I have been going to the gym, and
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sometimes you feel like you're starting at ground zero again,
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you're like, oh God, I'm feeling just a little mushy, I'm getting
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a little older, like, blah blah blah, and your self-talk might
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not always be, you know, so great, but for me, I understand
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that I have restarted, like, building muscle, you know, so
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many times in my life, because for a time, you know, I was
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really into lifting and stuff, and then I found yoga, and then
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I was really into yoga, and I had to like getting back in the
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gym, like rebuilding muscle for strength was like, because yoga
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strength is a little bit different, right, than having
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like, how do I say it, it's just a different kind of strength.
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So, when you're trying to like really build muscle and put on
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muscle, it's like a different approach, right? Of course, is
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hopefully you can imagine what I'm saying, and but you can be
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really discouraging, and you can be really hot on yourself if
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you're used to, quote unquote, looking a certain way, or
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feeling a certain way, or just not wanting to look or feel the
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way that you feel. Let's say you're somebody who has anxiety,
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and you're like, I just want to stop feeling like this, and you
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will go balls to the wall, trying everything you can to
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just eradicate this feeling inside of you. Right, that is
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not a.. that is not going gently. It's the same thing in
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the gym. You can go into the gym, and you can push, push,
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push, push, push too hard, too fast, too soon. You don't give
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your body and your muscles, enough time to recuperate, and
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you end up doing more harm than you are helpful in doing good.
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You know what I mean. So, in Dr. Sulu's book, she's something
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she's talking about, about this, and she says, so when you think
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about going back to that quote, right, hold on loosely, but
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don't let go. Part of that is about not trying to control
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everything, not trying to control the other person, not
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trying to control the relationship, and not trying to
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control the outcomes. And when it comes to our health, when it
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comes to our well-being, whether that's your physical health or
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your mental health, or whatever, we sometimes have a way,
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especially if we've been dealing with something for a really long
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time, and we just don't understand why the symptoms
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aren't changing, and again, whether that's anxiety or
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depression or tummy aches or having to run to the bathroom,
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you know, or what, the 1001 ways the body can go squirrely, you
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know what I mean, and so here's something that she wrote that I
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think it's really, really fantastic. She's like, she's
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talking about how sometimes you feel like frustrated because
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you're like things aren't changing as fast as you would
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like, and she says, you know, sometimes your sense of control
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may fluctuate every day. You have a distinct show. She says
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this: there's a distinct feeling of quote, I'm going to master
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this, so I'm going to redouble all my efforts, and then that
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turns into these extremes, right? And then you fall away
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into what's the point, nothing seems to work, and she says
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these kind of thoughts underpin the all or nothing patterns that
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we tend to fall into as humans, and we do see this right, so the
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quote, like, hold on loosely, but don't let go. It's this idea
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of moderation, it's this idea of approaching things gently, of
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not flip-flopping from those two extremes, like, oh, I went to
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the gym, like, for a month every day, and like, nothing happened.
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It's like, yeah, nothing happened, probably because your
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muscles didn't get a chance to recuperate. There were no rest
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days. You weren't eating that great, right? And you were
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exhausted, right? You just like broken down. You broke down a
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lot of muscle. You didn't build it because you weren't. You, you
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went two balls to the wall, right? You did not. You did not
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go gently towards yourself.
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And so she says, right here in this next piece, this next
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passage, she says, let's right now make an intention to find
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the middle ground. The middle ground is powerful, so instead
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of grasping for complete certainty and control, try to
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embrace what feels empowering now. So, rather than over
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committing to test the extent of your control, try taking things
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gradually with curiosity and an openness to learn, so that goes
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back to this idea of right needing a whole lot of space to
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breathe in, we need to have room to be curious, to try things, to
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make mistakes, to get back up, we want, don't want the feeling
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of suffocation on ourselves. We want supportive measures. We
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want to try things right. We want to find that middle ground.
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And she says, you know, that openness to learn and listen to
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this. She says the benefits of people's openness, or a
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patient's openness, the. Far outweigh the often temporary
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relief of fast tracking of trying to do everything all at
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once, right, and she says this openness, this openness, this is
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how you make your mind and body feel safe from that place of
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safety, everything you wish to achieve comes easier, so, so,
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some, so many times we think, well, if I just double down, if
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I just fast track, right? So we are not baby birding ourselves,
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we.. I don't know what the opposite of that would be. We
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would be like adult, I don't even know how to do it, opposite
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of that, but we put way too much pressure on ourselves, we're
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squeezing way too tightly, and it's when you squeeze too
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tightly, as the words of 38 special tells us, that's when
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you lose control. When you're trying to over control
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everything is when things shit goes out of control, things just
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go kooky monkeys. If you have ever been an over controlling
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person trying to control everything, you know how that
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shit ends. You know that it does not end well for us, right.
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Double a men hands. I'm like, I should be in the, the, you know,
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when people say they're recovering Catholics, I'm like,
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I'm a recovering over controller wanting to control everything.
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Okay. And then I love it. I love this line too. So this is from
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chapter four again of Dr. Sula Win Gaston's book, it's all in
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your body, just a little, just a little snippet. She says she's
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talking about her condition, she had a bladder condition, and
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she's talking about how, and I think you can apply this to
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anything, whether it's my marriage isn't going well, I'm
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having headaches, like whatever the situation is, right? Listen
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to this, she goes, although day by day I was highly functional,
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there were times I'd rage or despair breaking down in tears
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as I wonder why I wondered why things weren't changing when I
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was trying so hard. Oh my god, have you ever felt that way? I
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can tell you, as somebody who had her first IBS attack at 15,
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I tried everything under the sun. You have no idea, and I
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would try so hard, so hard, right, to control things and to
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fix things, and to do take this supplement and try that diet,
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and like, do all these different things to try and help myself.
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And you would get so frustrated when you'd be like, but I'm
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trying so hard, and it's not changing. And she says, "This
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listen. She says, "I wondered why things weren't changing when
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I was trying so hard. I was still fixated on the magic fix.
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The fact that all my endeavors were falling short of magically
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fixing things was causing immense stress and bodily
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reactivity. This is so important. I'm going to reread
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it, because I really want you to hear this. Listen, the fact that
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all my endeavors were falling short of magically fixing things
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was causing immense stress and bodily reactivity. She goes on
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to say it was a year or two later, having been immersed in
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my PhD in research role, learning about the
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transformative effects of pacing, that's that time thing
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of pacing and acceptance, that's that space thing, whilst
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continuing my mindfulness practices. She goes, it was
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through the transformative effects of pacing and acceptance
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that I mastered the balance of pacing my efforts to nourish my
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body while letting go of what I could not control.
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Right, so think about this: if you're somebody who wants to
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make a change, whether it's an identity change, a habitual
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change, a change in your body, a change with your anxiety, some
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sort of transformation thing, personal development, spiritual,
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physical, mental, whatever it is. Right, we have to understand
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that gradual change gets the job done, as Linda Ty says, right,
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the great teacher and storyteller and trauma
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therapist, right, Linda Tai says sip, sip, sip, sip, or all the
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episodes I've done on the Kaizen philosophy, one tiny small
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change, gradual change is enough, it gets the job done, we
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think it needs to come hot, it needs to come fast, we got to
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make it swift, we got to, I want it now, because we've suffered
24:21
for a long time, whether it's in a relationship or with physical
24:25
symptoms or with anxiety, or whatever the thing is, it's like
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we need room and time to grow, change, process, and heal. We
24:34
cannot grip too tightly. We must baby bird ourselves. We must do
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a gentle approach, not everything. What I did, an
24:44
episode a couple of, whatever, weeks ago, maybe a month ago,
24:48
and I said, in the spiritual practice, in spiritual life,
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every amount of effort counts, even the smallest, tiniest
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efforts count, as long as we're trying. As long as we're trying
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to experiment and explore and be curious and stay open and not so
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fixated and not so tight and not so controlling, right, we go
25:11
into over control, we go into criticisms, criticism, we go
25:14
into urgency, we go into unkindness and harshness towards
25:20
ourselves, especially, it's like, what's wrong with me? Why
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isn't this changing? Why can't I fix this? Why can't I figure
25:26
this out? Why does.. and I try to tell clients that I've worked
25:30
with in spiritual mentoring, look, it took you 3040, 5060,
25:35
whatever years to get here, to get this way, to create these
25:39
patterns, these habits, these conditions, this way of
25:42
thinking, these beliefs, this identity. It does not change
25:46
overnight. And I've always said that's why I don't make promises
25:49
to people, right? In marketing, they're always like, what's the
25:51
promise? How are they going to be different? What are they
25:54
going to get from this? I'm like, look, I cannot determine
25:57
the safe pace for this person, meaning like, I can't give you,
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I can't write a script and a prescription and say, oh, in
26:05
three weeks you're gonna not be anxious anymore. This shit takes
26:08
time. We learned a lot of things over the years, and it takes
26:13
time to unlearn, but the good news is, is that we can unlearn,
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we can loosen our grip a little bit right, and here's another
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thing that's really, really interesting that I learned from
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Dr. Sula and from other people too, like Melissa Tiers and
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other teachers about neuroscience, but they actually
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have done what's called neuro imaging, and the research and
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neuro imaging, right, literally like looking at your brain and
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stuff like that, is that when you respond to yourself
26:42
reassuringly, and reassuringly, that might sound like, oh, it's
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okay, you're gonna figure it out, like, yeah, that sucked,
26:50
but we're gonna get there. Let's see what we can do when you
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respond to yourself reassuringly, not clenching, not
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gripping, not forcing, not being mean, right, not insisting that
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it's this way, the only way, right now. Magic fixes. I want
27:06
the cure, right? When you respond to yourself
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reassuringly, she says this. It activates identifiable,
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identifiable neural pathways that are distinct from when we
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respond critically, so how many times? So the other day, like I
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did something, and I said to myself, you know, well, that was
27:28
stupid, and I just stopped myself immediately, and I said,
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no, it wasn't stupid, you're just human, and you're allowed
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to make a mistake. I will tell you that that feels 1000 times
27:40
better in my body and in my head and in my gut than me calling
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myself stupid, calling myself an idiot. So, the way that we talk
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to ourselves, it really does make a physiological difference,
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like your body, the way we think affects our body.
27:56
Our body is also always sending messages up to our brain, so our
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brain and our bodies are so intertwined, and for so many
28:03
years, so many people have been told it's all in your head, but
28:07
it's not, it's also all in your body. Okay, so listen to this:
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self-critical responses activate threat processing circuitry in
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you. Think about that. Self-critical responses activate
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in your brain and in your body physiologically threat
28:29
processing circuitry, but self-assurance activates
28:34
soothing circuitry. So, when we practice compassion towards
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ourselves, you are literally helping the immune system.
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You're helping to, let's see, it says the more practice of
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compassion, the more protected the inflammatory response to
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stresses is. So, the more that we practice being gentle with
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ourselves, being kind to ourselves, baby birding
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ourselves, right, the power of being gentle with ourselves
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literally has a physical effect on our body. So this is just
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really big, right? I just want to talk about this because I
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know so many of us are so hot on ourselves and we demand so much
29:20
of ourselves in our bodies, and when things aren't changing, and
29:24
things are uncomfortable, and we're just so sick of feeling a
29:28
particular way, or thinking a particular way, and we want
29:30
change now, we forget, like we get kooky, we become like, you
29:35
know, like cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, and we get a little like
29:39
intense, and we start to insist that things change now, and this
29:43
is just not how things change, so we want to hold on loosely.
29:50
We don't want to lose a grip, right? Don't let go, but like we
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need to hold on a little bit loosely. There are times when we
29:56
do need to totally let go, because we've become obsessed,
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and it becomes a little. Bit too much, you know what I'm saying.
30:01
We're insisting, we're obsessing, we're forcing, and
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that's not it. We need to remember, we need room and time
30:08
to grow, we need room and time to change, we need room and
30:11
time, space and time to heal. And it goes back to that whole
30:16
thing, right? Your baby needs someone to believe in, you need
30:20
to believe in yourself. You need to believe in your body. You
30:22
need to believe in your smarty pants brain, that there is a
30:25
natural capacity for healing, and a lot of times we are the
30:30
thing that is getting in the way. We don't do it on purpose,
30:33
and it totally makes sense why we do these things, but
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hopefully you'll remember this line, right? Your baby needs
30:40
someone to believe in, and a whole lot of space to breathe
30:44
in. We need to give ourselves space to, you know, figure these
30:49
things out, to practice these things, to stay curious, and to
30:52
stay open. We need to baby bird ourselves. So, I hope this has
30:59
been helpful in some way. Maybe it's a message that you needed
31:02
to hear. I know it's a message I needed to be reminded of. Maybe
31:06
it's something that will be helpful to a cousin or a friend
31:09
or a sweetie or a co-worker, or whatever. If you just know
31:12
somebody who's really hard on themselves or somebody who puts
31:15
way too much pressure on themselves, and when we do that,
31:18
here's the thing: when we have a tendency to like put a lot of
31:22
pressure on things, we also tend to put a lot of pressure on
31:26
ourselves, but also other people, and we can be really
31:29
hard on other people, but we can also be like wicked, wicked,
31:32
wicked hard on ourselves, and we don't want to do that, we want
31:36
to be creating circuitry in our brain that sends like loving
31:41
messages, healing messages to the body, and vice versa. Okay,
31:45
so I hope this has been helpful. I hope it made sense. We brought
31:48
together baby birds and bugs, we brought together our bodies, a
31:51
book, and a band. We somehow did it, you guys. We did it. So I
31:55
hope this was helpful to you. I appreciate you. Also, just in
32:00
terms of other things that are going on, because I always like
32:02
to let you guys keep you guys in the loop of the shenanigans that
32:05
I'm up to. We just had another fantastic Wright Club on
32:09
Saturday. It was so, so, so good.
32:11
If you're somebody who lives local to New Hampshire, and you
32:14
can live by care, like Massachusetts, Vermont, Maine,
32:17
right, you can travel, travel to Concord, New Hampshire. For this
32:20
summer, we're going to keep doing Write Club in person. It's
32:23
generative. It's a half day generative writing workshop.
32:26
It's a four hour workshop. It's so fantastic. It's at a
32:28
beautiful space, the 11th Letter Writing Gallery. We have just
32:32
been having such a fantastic time doing it, and I would love
32:36
to have you join, join us, even if you're not.. what's the word
32:40
I want to use? I don't want to say confident, but maybe you
32:43
suspect that you're a writer, maybe you're somebody that jots
32:46
down notes on napkins, or maybe you're somebody that journals,
32:49
or you have a story to tell. You've always dreamed of writing
32:52
a book, whatever it is, right? I hope you come check out Write
32:55
Club at some point, and just know everything I'm talking
32:57
about. You can always find it online on my website at Karen
33:01
Kenney K E N N E y.com There's always the NES, which is my
33:05
spiritual mentoring group and community. Those folks are
33:08
fantastic. I love them so much. We meet online every every two
33:14
weeks, so like twice a month we meet online, and a lot of what
33:18
goes on in the NES is kind of like what happens on the
33:20
podcast, is we talk to each other, I do some mentoring and
33:23
coaching, I share stories, I share ideas, we follow, we go
33:28
through a set of modules and lessons that are jumping off
33:31
points, but it's just like, basically, it's like group
33:34
coaching is what is really helping happening in a really
33:37
beautiful community, of course, I always work one to one, and
33:41
then locally I also do a yoga class. I do yoga classes and
33:45
private yoga and Thai yoga massage, so I do all kinds of
33:48
stuff, and I'm also writing my book. Speaking of books, I'm
33:52
also writing my book, so all kinds of shenanigans. And if you
33:54
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34:02
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34:05
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34:08
with my emails - I don't write just to write, I send when I
34:11
have something that I think is like my offerings, anything that
34:15
I create are like little love letters from my hat to yours, so
34:19
people might call them marketing emails or sales emails,
34:23
whatever. I don't think of them that way. I'm literally saying,
34:25
hey, I created this cool thing because I needed it, or at least
34:29
at one point, or now I know it's helpful and beneficial. I've
34:32
seen it have really great results, and I'm offering it.
34:35
I'm literally just offering it to people and inviting people to
34:38
come join me. So, I'm not super salesy, I'm just like, here's
34:42
what we're doing, come join us. I think it's fun. I hope you
34:44
come. Right, that's kind of how it is. So you can just go to
34:47
Karen kenney.com backslash sign up, and that's it. And come see
34:52
us, come hang out with us, come spend some time together in
34:54
person. It would be wicked fun. All right, you guys, one more
34:57
time. Here's the book, Dr. Sula Wingasen. It's all in your body,
35:01
it's so fantastic. Like I said, I've been referring it to
35:04
people. I'm going to do a post about it on social media soon,
35:07
too. But I have found it - I'm finding it wicked helpful. Just
35:11
re what's reaffirming some things that I've learned before,
35:16
reminding me of some things, and also teaching me some new ways
35:18
of looking at things, and I always love getting a new point
35:21
of view. Okay, that's it. Wherever you go in the world,
35:25
whether it's the rest of your day, your week, whatever, right?
35:28
Wherever you go, may you leave the animals and the other people
35:32
and yourself and the planet, the trees, the rocks, the rivers,
35:37
the environment better than how you first found it. Wherever you
35:41
go, may you and your presence and your energy and your love
35:45
and your baby birding, your gentleness, may it be a
35:49
blessing. Bye.
35:52
Hey, thanks so much for listening to the show. I really
35:55
love spending some time together. Now, if you dig the
35:58
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