Latest / The Spin Podcast / Scott Panchik Joins & How Did Our 2025 Predictions Pan Out?
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- 0:32Welcome to the spin. If you guys thought the CrossFit
- 0:36game season when it's over, you're wrong.
- 0:38Mr. Scott Panchick, the the not only, not one and only Panchick
- 0:42with the one and only Scott Panchick is what, 12 hours away
- 0:47from your first first event tomorrow morning at the Masters
- 0:50CrossFit Games or I guess they're called the age group
- 0:52CrossFit Games. The age group, yeah, I, I mean,
- 0:55it's like legends age group. I don't know, sometimes I don't.
- 0:58What you what you prefer? I I think age group's
- 1:03appropriate because there's already been an A Legends event.
- 1:06I just feel like the age group kind of keeps it under the
- 1:08CrossFit umbrella. Scott, were you in Columbus
- 1:12during the regional we had there?
- 1:14It's like 2012, 2011, it would have been.
- 1:18If it was any time from, yeah, 2012, that was my first
- 1:22regionals we did, Diane. Yeah.
- 1:26Oh, that's amazing. So you're back in the same
- 1:28facility then, because they did that during the Arnold?
- 1:30I don't think it was, no. That's not the one then, if
- 1:34that's the one you're thinking of.
- 1:35We didn't do it during the Arnold and we weren't in the
- 1:37Convention Center. We were somewhere where there
- 1:39was definitely not air conditioning.
- 1:44We did not have air conditioning and it was pretty, pretty old.
- 1:47School nice I. Don't even think we had rubber
- 1:50floorings at that time. Oh yeah, I remember.
- 1:52I remember when rubber flooring showed up.
- 1:54It was like, whoa. Half the lanes had lumps in them
- 1:58and half of them were. Flat if there were something in
- 2:01lanes. It's funny, I feel like we've,
- 2:03we've come a long way in the sport and, and it like kind of
- 2:07went up and then I feel like it started to tutor, tutor back
- 2:10down a little bit at times. But we got, we got two, we got
- 2:132, like padded. Everybody got used to the nice
- 2:16stuff. But we we all remember when we.
- 2:19Didn't have shit, I think. I think that's why they pulled
- 2:20out the old school wooden boxes for us this weekend.
- 2:23They didn't. They were like, hey, you know
- 2:24what? These masks, there's athletes
- 2:26are very calloused and you know they, they can handle jumping on
- 2:30a wooden box and there's the way they.
- 2:33Feel their shins anymore, those. Dudes are dead.
- 2:35Do it at this point, you know, we'll do some pistols and we'll
- 2:38do some wooden. Box.
- 2:40Mouse, these guys can handle it. You know, someday individuals,
- 2:45you guys will get to a point where you can do pistols and
- 2:47GHDS again. It all comes back.
- 2:52Yeah, man, you. So you're still the 35 to 39 age
- 2:57group division took a year off last year.
- 3:01You've been doing this since what, 20 competing since 2012.
- 3:04What makes you still throw your hat in the ring and want to
- 3:07compete? Honestly, last year I didn't
- 3:11compete and I kind of missed it. It was definitely something that
- 3:15I feel kind of makes me a better version of myself as a gym
- 3:19owner, as a husband, friend, just like, I don't know, even
- 3:23for myself, just like how I feel like energy wise, there was
- 3:27definitely something missing. But I've had three knee
- 3:31surgeries since 2021 and it's been kind of a grind coming back
- 3:35from that. And I just, you know, it's, it's
- 3:38taken me a while to figure it out.
- 3:40You know, you go from training one way as an individual athlete
- 3:44and coming into the masters, you're trying to figure out how
- 3:47to how to do it all all over again.
- 3:49And you've you've kind of figured out, I spent a decade
- 3:52figuring out as an individual. And then it's like, OK, your
- 3:54body's starting to change and you got to kind of pivot with
- 3:57that as well. And along with some of the
- 3:59injuries. And it's been fun to take the
- 4:02things that I've been learning through that training and be
- 4:06able to provide and give back to our community in that way.
- 4:08I definitely look at our master's community a little
- 4:10different than I did when I opened our gym in at 23, which
- 4:14has been fun, I think. I think it's helped me become a
- 4:17better coach. This will be your first year.
- 4:20Did you go to the masters competition last year or did is
- 4:23this your first time as as like the separate like?
- 4:27Yeah, this is my first time as this separate.
- 4:28I was there in 2023. Got it.
- 4:32What, what are your thoughts on on having it kind of split off
- 4:35and having your own time Like you're, you're, you're away from
- 4:39the big spotlight, but you also get to some degree your own
- 4:42spotlight, you know, from that standpoint.
- 4:47Yeah, it's, it's definitely interesting with it not being at
- 4:50the same time, but I also think that it allows us to have that
- 4:55opportunity to create stories and share those.
- 4:59And they're not, you know, over overseen by, you know, a lot of
- 5:03what's going on in the CrossFit world with the individuals.
- 5:06So I think it's really important for our community to get to see
- 5:10all the different walks of life within the CrossFit Games and
- 5:14the way these athletes can continue to progress because a
- 5:18lot of these people that you're seeing this weekend are the
- 5:21people that are walking into CrossFit gyms.
- 5:22You know, we have teenagers, we have masters from 35 all the way
- 5:26up to, you know, 60 plus, which is incredible.
- 5:29And I think when people see that, it gives them something to
- 5:32inspire towards as a as opposed to like, you know, you see the
- 5:36superheroes in their 20s and everybody remembers what their
- 5:3920s was like. You know, I was bulletproof.
- 5:42I could go out and, you know, kick back a couple drinks with
- 5:44my buddies and go in and hit a workout the next day and I'd be,
- 5:47you know, you're fine Nowadays you have a drink or stay up past
- 5:51midnight and you're and you're wrecked.
- 5:55So I think when you get to see these guys and their dedication
- 5:58alongside having careers, it's really inspiring I think for our
- 6:03CrossFit community to see that and have something to work
- 6:06towards and and it feel achievable in in some way.
- 6:09That has recently come to light for me and John, I'm I'm
- 6:13interested in you, how you feel about this.
- 6:15You're still under 30, right? I am 30.
- 6:18You're OK. So John's 30, I'm 33.
- 6:21We just had a kid and and we moved.
- 6:23All together well. Separate John.
- 6:25John, We. Separate families.
- 6:27We. We.
- 6:28Yeah. Yeah, but you know, I, I
- 6:31trained, you know, try to be competitive for years and now
- 6:35it's like cutting back to an hour and a half an hour a day.
- 6:38And like, I look at at your age divisions and I'm like, those
- 6:43are a lot more inspiring to me than they used to be that you
- 6:45guys have stayed this fit for this long.
- 6:47And you said the keyword there is have careers because I was
- 6:51like, dude, you really like you have to try hard.
- 6:53If you have a career and train at the same time.
- 6:57It's insane. So yeah, it's like I but I don't
- 7:01think you guys get enough shine for the amount of work that you
- 7:07will have to put in. That's that's very, that's very
- 7:09true. Yeah, it was really cool.
- 7:10I was sitting in the briefing and I just heard a lot of people
- 7:13talking and people were talking about their kids going back to
- 7:16school. Some of them were going back to
- 7:18middle school, high school. And then someone's like I had to
- 7:20take my daughter to and drop her off for college.
- 7:23And she was luckily at Ohio State and they're moving days
- 7:25this weekend. So just hearing people talking
- 7:28about their time, you know, as as parents, like I had, I think
- 7:32it was who was it that just told me that they they literally just
- 7:37had a kid right over semi final weekend and he was like, I'm not
- 7:43sure. Mark Quain Jones.
- 7:44He was like, I'm not even sure I'm going to I was going to
- 7:47compete and my wife's like, you know, set me out and let me go
- 7:50do it. And he went out and he competed
- 7:52and qualified and he's here and he and I look over and his wife
- 7:55standing there with a stroller. So it's just really cool to see.
- 7:59It's a lot of teamwork. I think there's a lot of people
- 8:01that go into these athletes being on the floor.
- 8:05A lot of them have a really supportive spouse and community
- 8:10behind them. I think there's going to be a
- 8:11lot of people down here from the CrossFit community.
- 8:14I think these people are bringing.
- 8:16Rudy Berger was telling me they have like 50 people coming from
- 8:18their gym. They're like 30 minutes, you
- 8:20know, away. So he's got some home field
- 8:22advantage and I just think it's going to be pretty exciting.
- 8:25Well, that's the thing that's been brought up.
- 8:27Sorry, John was during the games, the the attendance was
- 8:32down and it's been down. And we think a lot of it has to
- 8:36do with the masters, the teens, all the divisions are are gone
- 8:39besides the teams and the individuals.
- 8:42And, you know, hearing that he has 50, you know, 50 people from
- 8:46his gym coming out. And while I want you guys to
- 8:51have your own spotlight, I also want to bring you back into the
- 8:54fold to create the fitness festival that we used to have.
- 8:58Yeah, I thought. I always liked how it was set up
- 9:01and designed in a way where we kind of started the weekend and
- 9:05then it our finals where as everybody was coming in, I felt
- 9:08like people came in and were attracted to that.
- 9:10And I think in a perfect world they are together and I think
- 9:14our finals would be really fun to watch as a maybe even one of
- 9:19their workouts. Like I, I know they did it the
- 9:21one year we did the wall walks and thrusters in 2021 I believe
- 9:25it was. And we did 1098 all the way down
- 9:29to 1 and they did 108642. And I thought that was really
- 9:33great way of showing how we scale and modify workouts to
- 9:37meet the demands of any individual that walks in our
- 9:40gym. And here we are with the most
- 9:41elite individual, men and women and the masters community, and
- 9:45they're taking on the same workout, just slightly
- 9:47different. And I think that's really
- 9:49special. That's the beauty of like what
- 9:51this is all about. I think that if we could get
- 9:54back to that, I think people would would get behind it and be
- 9:57excited. But I think the athletes have to
- 9:59continue to show up. I think Ty Jenkins is going to
- 10:03be down here this weekend, which I was like, man, that's really
- 10:05cool. He was a teenager stepping into
- 10:08the spotlight and to come back and just, yeah, I get to get the
- 10:13get the opportunity to speak some life into the younger
- 10:15athletes that are coming up through.
- 10:17Like we need to have that because I think that's what
- 10:20feeds our CrossFit kind of ecosystem for people to want to
- 10:25show up and be part of it. And then also, I just think like
- 10:28if there's a lot of events, it doesn't make us as maybe as as
- 10:32appealing to show up to. If you have the opportunity to
- 10:35go to XY and Z and all these other events.
- 10:38You know, as opposed to when it was like open regionals games,
- 10:43there was only three times that you would see people as either
- 10:45an open announcement. You'd go to regionals if it was
- 10:48nearby, or you'd pack up your bag and you would show up to
- 10:51Carson, take your shirt off and let people know you you did
- 10:55CrossFit. Yeah.
- 10:59Do you think, do you think Masters would be opposed to
- 11:03their games starting on Wednesday and ending on Friday
- 11:09And like with an event that ended on the like the Friday
- 11:12night event, like like the thruster wall walk was the
- 11:15Friday night event. If that was their final, but
- 11:18they would have to start on Wednesday.
- 11:20That's that's a hard, that's hard right for like the middle
- 11:24of the week. Do you think it would be OK to
- 11:28do that? And then to create like we start
- 11:30with the masters and teams and then end on Sunday with the
- 11:34individuals and it's like a week long celebration of fitness
- 11:38rather than everybody split up. I I personally think it would be
- 11:43better to have everyone together but I think.
- 11:45I do too. I do.
- 11:46Too. But there needs to be a team put
- 11:48together. You know, I, I did the games in
- 11:502023 as a Masters and it just kind of had it kind of felt like
- 11:58it was a second thought, like it didn't seem like there was a lot
- 12:01of intention put in it. The year that Baz programmed
- 12:05made me really excited. It made me want to sign up in
- 12:082023 to do the masters because the workouts were really
- 12:12creative. And I feel like we've regressed
- 12:14a little bit in terms of skills specifically.
- 12:18We don't really get challenged with like the the high skilled
- 12:21gymnastics, but we went for Bill and well, we got we got we got
- 12:26went from being on like they they did the Elizabeth where
- 12:30they went across the P bars. They had handstand walking
- 12:33ramps. I think, I think they even had a
- 12:35couple pegboards. So they got to use some of those
- 12:38implements that that we see in the crossword case.
- 12:42But you know, the high ropes and, and like an mixed in with
- 12:46an 800 meter run. And I always felt like that's
- 12:49the kind of stuff that as a master's athlete, you're, you,
- 12:52you want to, to train for, you want to have the ability to, to
- 12:57showcase your handstand walking in those things that you've
- 12:59you've worked really hard on. And I think when you separate
- 13:03the two, maybe the resources are a bit less than at the CrossFit
- 13:08games when we're all together. It's not crazy to say like, hey,
- 13:11like, let's let these 35 to 39 year olds flip the flip that pig
- 13:15for the first time and put it at the end of the event.
- 13:16They got to flip it three times. Like something cool that just
- 13:19like makes you feel like you're not at your home gym.
- 13:23And I think that's the beauty of the CrossFit Games is bringing
- 13:28everyone together for that that celebration.
- 13:31But that just might be old old school old school of me to.
- 13:35I mean, I think there's a sweet spot where the 35 to 39 year
- 13:39olds can do the exact same event because I think it would be cool
- 13:43if one of y'all like got 5th or even one really.
- 13:48You'd have to be like super niche but like to be everybody,
- 13:51all of the individuals too. And it can be a one for one
- 13:54comparison with the 35 to 39 group and then it's scaled down
- 13:58from there in. Various points Dave used to do
- 14:02that occasionally like I I believe the one year we did
- 14:04Jackie, I think he gave the the women a 45 LB barbell or but
- 14:08like every now and again he'll put a workout in that.
- 14:10You can compare the men and the women.
- 14:11Even just like the row run event, we saw some some of the
- 14:14women really shine in that event and a lot of the endurance
- 14:18pieces. But I think whenever you have an
- 14:19opportunity to let the masters athletes come in and do a
- 14:22workout like like that, it starts to showcase across the
- 14:26board. Like, wow, you have this amazing
- 14:27performance. Like I remember Gee snatching
- 14:30something really crazy. Yeah, as a teenager.
- 14:33And I think we had a snatch that year.
- 14:34And I was like, what this, you know, this young kid just went
- 14:38out there and snatched 291. Like, that's insane.
- 14:41And. I think that's what's the same
- 14:45year, yeah. Yeah.
- 14:46So like when you see that you're like, man, the future of our
- 14:49sport is so bright. And you look at like these young
- 14:52athletes and you look at the the individuals in their prime and
- 14:55even just like to have the opportunity in some of those
- 14:58older age groups to do some of those things.
- 15:01I think that really is what keeps people showing up is
- 15:04those, it's those things that they can't do yet that that they
- 15:08want to be able to to do that makes them want to show up and
- 15:11continue trying. You talk about the, the young
- 15:15athletes coming up and like obviously when you started it
- 15:18was significantly different, right?
- 15:20Like everybody had a job. Many of you guys all started
- 15:24opening gyms. It feels like that's not the
- 15:27case now, like everybody is now a professional athlete.
- 15:31They're not, you know, they're not a gym owner, they're not
- 15:34really as part of the the affiliate community.
- 15:38Yeah. What would kind of your message
- 15:40be to young athletes who are thinking about getting in there
- 15:42and like, should they, you know, consider kind of being part of
- 15:46that, that affiliation that that community doing workouts with
- 15:50the group, maybe even in owning a gym, getting your L1?
- 15:54Yeah, You know, one of the things that I see in the sport
- 15:58right now is that we, we've got, we've created this like I have
- 16:02to be all in as a full time athlete focusing just on that.
- 16:08And I, I understand that because I, I got to see the sport
- 16:11progress. Like it went for me being a part
- 16:13time or a full time teacher and working out in an hour and a
- 16:18half. That was about all I did my
- 16:19first year. And then every year it started
- 16:21the the time started to add up if you wanted to continue to
- 16:24evolve in the sport. And it's what made me, you know,
- 16:27originally want to to open a gym was I was like, cool, like I
- 16:31want to pursue this CrossFit thing.
- 16:32Like it's very much like being a health and PE teacher, except
- 16:35the people that are walking to my gym, they want to be there
- 16:38and they're going to be excited about the things that I'm I'm
- 16:40teaching them. But as we've gotten further and
- 16:43further along, you, it's, it's really easy to see like athletes
- 16:48being 100% focused on just just that.
- 16:51And I, I would encourage people to find something to do
- 16:54alongside being an athlete that you want to segue into being
- 16:58your career at some point. Like you will have a career in
- 17:01CrossFit, but it is not a career in a sense of like something
- 17:05that's going to provide for your family someday for the rest of
- 17:08your life. And I think that a lot of these
- 17:12younger athletes that are coming in, they, you know, some of them
- 17:14aren't even going to college. And we know how much we, we grew
- 17:18through those, you know, those four or five years in College of
- 17:22learning and understanding. And you know, these guys are
- 17:24given, you know, money and fame and spotlight, which is awesome.
- 17:28But it's like that that's very, it can be very short lived.
- 17:32And the more you rely on just that one thing, the more
- 17:35pressure starts to build year after year.
- 17:38And I think that's where we're starting to see some of the like
- 17:41the the mental side getting very challenging for a lot of these
- 17:44athletes because everything is riding on their performance for
- 17:48them to be able to continue to be a full time athlete.
- 17:51But if you have that other little thing that you're working
- 17:53on. And that's why I've always said
- 17:54I'm a gym owner that's a CrossFit athlete, not a CrossFit
- 17:57athlete that's a gym owner because of that crop, you know,
- 18:00being that gym owner and having that alongside of me.
- 18:04When life gets hard and you know, you come down on a rope
- 18:07and blow off your knee and that's it.
- 18:08Like, you know, but it's as simple, it's as simple as that.
- 18:12Like, you know, it could be that it could be and it could happen.
- 18:16You know, on a on a box job, there's like a million different
- 18:18things that it could happen on. That's devastating and
- 18:22heartbreaking. And I think that if you have
- 18:25something that you're working alongside that can help lift you
- 18:28up out of those moments. And I think it also makes you a
- 18:32little, a little, how do I say not reckless on the floor, but a
- 18:38little less to lose in a sense. Like I I just feel like you
- 18:41you'll carry a little more swag and a little less stress.
- 18:47I do want to ask you about the Masters Games at some point
- 18:49tonight, but one of the things I wonder is like there's this big
- 18:54push into, or there has been prior to this point, the big
- 18:58push into professionalizing the sport.
- 19:00And I always want I, I sort of see like this ceiling of where,
- 19:05you know, how much CrossFit pro athletes can be just fully
- 19:12funded by being a CrossFit Games athlete.
- 19:15And I wonder if if you sort of see it in a similar light, like,
- 19:19you know, needing to have a career outside, needing to do
- 19:21things outside of the gym and not just CrossFit, or if you do
- 19:26think that they can just be full time athletes.
- 19:29I think if you're gonna be a full time athlete, like setting,
- 19:32setting some parameters on like how long you're gonna go and
- 19:35work towards that and achieve that cuz that can start to drag
- 19:38on. I also think that there are a
- 19:41lot of people around these athletes that are allowing them
- 19:45to be on the floor. A lot of spouses that are
- 19:48working really hard behind the scenes.
- 19:50I think that there are coaches, I think that athletes have a lot
- 19:54of high expectation for their for their coaches and they want
- 19:56them to want it as much as they do.
- 19:58And I don't think that anyone is ever going to want it as bad as
- 20:02you do. So it's really difficult to, you
- 20:05know, to have that for such a long period of time without like
- 20:10other things. Playing an impact on that and,
- 20:13and impacting your, your year. And it's like, sometimes you get
- 20:18it right with your training and sometimes you don't.
- 20:20And you're going to go through highs and lows.
- 20:22You're going to have, you're going to have a story throughout
- 20:27that journey. And that story, I think, can be
- 20:31lifted up with community and the right people around you or if
- 20:35you're all by yourself and everything's relying on you and
- 20:39you start to carry more and more stress.
- 20:41And I think that's where people get burnt out.
- 20:43I think we're seeing a lot of athletes burning out a lot
- 20:45quicker than maybe they have in the past.
- 20:47And I don't know if that's like the pressure to, you know, be
- 20:51the be the best in the world. Is it like that pursuit of like,
- 20:54hey, it's a pass fail. If I don't win, I fail and only
- 20:58one person gets the win. So like does everybody walk,
- 21:00walk away failing on the on the year?
- 21:03So you got to find those like little victories along the way.
- 21:05You got to build yourself up a team.
- 21:07And I do think like having something that you're working on
- 21:09alongside as maybe you want to call it an exit strategy, like
- 21:13something that you're doing. And I think it the more you can
- 21:16do that thing and invest it inside the community and and it
- 21:21be building something inside of the community and serving and
- 21:24giving back. I think that's where you really
- 21:26start to see our community starting to grow and come back
- 21:30together as if if we can find ways to serve one another rather
- 21:34than just serving our ability to be a champion.
- 21:38And, and I don't think there's anything wrong with that.
- 21:41Like if that's your goal, then go, you know, go get it like
- 21:44100%. But just know like there's risks
- 21:48associated with any direction you're you're moving.
- 21:52It ain't all sunshine and rainbows, as somebody famous
- 21:55once said. Yeah.
- 21:57Yeah, as As for the actual? Match Tyler.
- 21:59It it was, well, Rocky said it. I was gonna say.
- 22:05He goes somebody famous. Somebody famous said that I was,
- 22:08well, I I. Couldn't remember if it was
- 22:10Paulie. I couldn't remember if Paulie
- 22:13originally said it or Rocky said it.
- 22:15It's. In the newer newer 1.
- 22:18As for the actual Masters games, I'm not going to actually talk
- 22:22about the actual games, but like how competing this weekend, you
- 22:27now have two children, wife. How does that compare to, what,
- 22:3213 years ago? Like just your mindset going
- 22:35into what your goals are, how it is to compete with a family
- 22:38there watching you. Yeah.
- 22:40It's funny, It's funny. I told my wife when I came home,
- 22:43I was like, I'm sitting in the briefing and I'm like, I was
- 22:46pretty relaxed. Like when I got there and it was
- 22:48like, I'm sitting there and people started like talking and
- 22:50asking questions. And you know, this briefing
- 22:53turned into like it was supposed to be probably about an hour
- 22:56turned into like 2 1/2 three hours.
- 22:58And people are like asking questions and things are getting
- 23:00like not heated, but like, you know, people wanted like, is it
- 23:03black? Is it is it black or white?
- 23:05Like it can't be in between. And then I'm like.
- 23:07Yeah, it can't be in between. Being like real, real chill.
- 23:12So like, like it's just, it's hard you, you go from, you know,
- 23:16spending a decade in the sport and like your goal is to win the
- 23:19CrossFit Games. Like that 100% is something that
- 23:22was in my head each day at some point to now.
- 23:27Life is definitely a lot different.
- 23:29And, you know, even when I, after I got married, I felt like
- 23:33things got elevated in a sense of like I had, I felt like it
- 23:36got easier, like my wife was more supportive.
- 23:38And, but like when you started adding kids in the mix, I feel
- 23:42like, I, I feel that, that serving right?
- 23:44Like, I feel like I can feel God teaching me patience and
- 23:48kindness and, and the stress that comes along with, you know,
- 23:51not getting the perfect night's sleep.
- 23:53And you go from 10 years of waking up and like, like trying
- 23:57to create the perfect day of training to a little bit of
- 24:02unknown and unknowable of getting woken up in the middle
- 24:05of the night and you know, I'm having a bad dream or I'm sick
- 24:09and not feeling good. 2023 when I went and did the Masters
- 24:13games, I, it was the first time in all my career that I got
- 24:15sick. Like I was so sick going and I
- 24:18had not eaten anything for probably about 5 days and I was
- 24:22sick as a dog and and my daughter's just like I just want
- 24:24to watch daddy work out. I.
- 24:26Was like right? OK.
- 24:31Big Fella's going to go do the best he can.
- 24:33So it's it's just different. I think that it's a little less
- 24:39stressful, it's a little more fun.
- 24:43The community here and seeing just all the different walks of
- 24:46life and knowing that every single one of these people has,
- 24:51you know, their story. They have their kids, they have
- 24:53their job, they have their, you know, their family and a lot of
- 24:57things going on behind the scenes.
- 24:59And it's, you know, it's not just me and I, and I think when
- 25:02you see that it, it kind of changes your mindset a little
- 25:05bit as opposed to like, if I was an individual, I'd be like,
- 25:08these guys are getting perfect nights of sleep.
- 25:10You know, their sleep score is probably 100.
- 25:14And that's, that's tough to compete against.
- 25:16But here's that it's it's going to be a lot of fun and I know
- 25:19that we'll walk away with a fun, fun story to to talk about
- 25:24someday. Do you think, do you think
- 25:25CrossFit, and I'm not, I'm not alluding to the new, the new
- 25:30media that CrossFit HP was, yeah, the new media campaign.
- 25:36But do you think Masters in a way brings CrossFit back to its
- 25:40roots? Because I would argue how the
- 25:46age group athletes go about their day because they they do
- 25:49have to work, they do have families, they do, it's not
- 25:52there. They don't wake up.
- 25:54And that's all they think about is training.
- 25:58And that's how it was back in 2009, 2010.
- 26:03You know, everybody had jobs, but they got everybody got
- 26:05together to for this one thing. And because you had a like
- 26:09minded hobby that you love to do.
- 26:13And then it progressively got more and more, oh, I can't make
- 26:18the games unless this is every single thing I do is revolves
- 26:20around making the games. But it's not that way at the age
- 26:25at age groups. Do you think in a way it brings
- 26:27it back to what it used to be? I do, I think the age group and
- 26:32highlighting those athletes allows people to see like it can
- 26:35be done and if that's something you want to pursue and work
- 26:38towards, you know it is it is achievable.
- 26:45Like mindset wise you see what? I'm, I'm yeah, I definitely, I
- 26:49definitely see what you're saying.
- 26:50John's trying to build a commercial.
- 26:52I'm not, I'm not. You alluded to it too, Tyler.
- 26:57Like, no, I would say my mindset has has shifted and I'm not
- 27:00training to be a games athlete. But it turned into working out a
- 27:04lot too. I got these side hustles that I
- 27:07do now and I don't work out near as much.
- 27:09Speaking of which, Scott, are you interested in on Being on a
- 27:12good team or just stop? Stop.
- 27:16Stop it. Right now.
- 27:17I'll go. Ahead, when I, when I look at
- 27:23just like the responsibilities that these athletes have, I
- 27:26think these stories are really inspiring.
- 27:29I think they, when those 50 people show up from that gym and
- 27:33they watch Rudy on the floor, knowing a little bit more about
- 27:37who he is as a person and what his responsibilities are at
- 27:39home, I think that's inspiring to that entire community.
- 27:43And I think that when we are able to highlight those things,
- 27:46it, it does lead to people wanting to keep showing up.
- 27:51And I think we're at this point now where, you know, there's I
- 27:55started it. I mean, I started back in 2008.
- 27:58I was like 19 when I first did my first CrossFit workout, but
- 28:03you know, we're, you know, well past that.
- 28:05We're over a decade in and you're starting to see this
- 28:07group that was there in their 20s and they're now getting into
- 28:11their 30s. And, and the, the CrossFit, I
- 28:15would say the athlete has changed and evolved a lot.
- 28:19And I think that, like you said, John, that you said that like it
- 28:22does, like is it, is it still achievable?
- 28:24And I think people need to understand that it is.
- 28:27And I think that the perception that's put out there for the
- 28:30elite athletes is how these athletes are training.
- 28:34And they're not. And I can tell you they're not
- 28:36training like that. I think that you can train, you
- 28:39know, you could spend 30 minutes in the morning doing a just pure
- 28:43conditioning, mono structural movement and then go do a
- 28:45CrossFit hour class and you can get it done.
- 28:48And, and I think in time, if you're focused and understand
- 28:51what you need to work on, you could, you could show up here
- 28:55or, or progressively get closer to being here.
- 28:59And I think most people just don't want to put that, that
- 29:02time in that, that effort in because it, I think they see the
- 29:06elite athletes and what they're eating and doing and, and all
- 29:09this dedication that it takes to get there.
- 29:11And it does take dedication to get there.
- 29:13And it does take time, But I think you can do it if you
- 29:16structure things well. I think a lot of athletes waste
- 29:18time in the gym when you hear about like, like you really
- 29:22can't work out all day long. If you're working out all day
- 29:24long, you're probably like you're on.
- 29:26Your phone for half of it. Yeah, for sure you're you.
- 29:29Go ahead and check out your Instagram readings and I would
- 29:33bet they're probably probably pretty high.
- 29:35How? Much.
- 29:36How much are you training these days?
- 29:39I train in the morning. I usually do like a like a
- 29:42little bit of conditioning just on a machine.
- 29:44So like almost like right out of bed, I'll wake up and try to eat
- 29:47something small and do like a 30-40 minute conditioning
- 29:51session. That's usually just the machine.
- 29:53And then I spend probably 90 minutes in the afternoon and
- 29:57most of it's warming up, like 30 minutes of warming up.
- 30:00So I mean, I would say it's probably, yeah, it's probably
- 30:04not much more than two hours including warm up and and cool
- 30:08down. That's it for me.
- 30:09I get to the gym and I'm like and an hour and a half goes by
- 30:13and I'm like how did I only get 2 pieces in and I'm like shit, I
- 30:16warmed up for 25 minutes. All right, 22 questions for you.
- 30:21I'll let you get going. Will you stay on the on the
- 30:25podium at the end of this weekend?
- 30:27Yeah, for sure. That's always I wouldn't.
- 30:30What if he said no? I'm not going to do it.
- 30:34Never know, never know. And then have you visited any
- 30:37malls yet in Columbus? I've heard they're very nice.
- 30:40Malls. Listen, Columbus, OH has a very
- 30:43nice mall, OK? I I want to say it's called the
- 30:46East Easthound Easton. Can you, can you, we've had
- 30:52there's a fight. There's a fight in the in our
- 30:54little thread, I think. Columbus, OH, you know.
- 30:59Well, I think you love. It I think Columbus, OH is a
- 31:03beautiful city. And then some of them and some
- 31:06of them and some of the guys in the chat think it's not a
- 31:09beautiful city. Can you give us your opinion of
- 31:11Columbus? Ohio, there are definitely
- 31:12beautiful parts in the city. Parts there are definitely
- 31:16beautiful, but there are some I think I, you know, I drove down
- 31:18a couple streets that I was like.
- 31:21How you did that with every city?
- 31:22Well, that's everywhere. Yeah.
- 31:23I mean, that's, that's definitely everywhere.
- 31:25I I'd love to stay Christian to the mall.
- 31:28He would love. It's coming from Cleveland
- 31:29though, so come on. From Cleveland, yeah.
- 31:31So. But I'll tell you what I love
- 31:34her to. Columbus.
- 31:37I do love the fact that it's in Columbus.
- 31:40I definitely think that that's a, you know, a great place.
- 31:44I would I it makes total sense with Rogue right there.
- 31:46I mean, wouldn't it be nice to not have to ship anything and
- 31:49just drive it down the street? Right.
- 31:51Put it in. I thought we were going to get
- 31:52some really cool equipment this year because I was like, it's
- 31:55right there. Right.
- 31:58I do have 111 additional question, sorry.
- 32:00Spin, sure. So how does it feel to do
- 32:05weighted pistol squats since 2014?
- 32:08That was the last time I did them.
- 32:09I. Knew.
- 32:10It I still have not. I still have not.
- 32:14It's, you know, it's funny, my training has has definitely
- 32:19changed a lot. And I'm, I think what I'm most
- 32:21excited about this weekend is to see how my training carries over
- 32:26to doing some things that I have not been doing much of.
- 32:29And that's like a perfect example of something is like I
- 32:31haven't done a weighted pistol since then.
- 32:33I haven't ran outside since we ran a 5K in 2023, but I have
- 32:36been running on the runner. I have been doing a lot of
- 32:38conditioning in the morning so I get a chance to see like this
- 32:41did my aerobic capacity in this way of training and doing I get
- 32:46a lot of biker. Is that going to help my
- 32:48running? Like am I going to do well on
- 32:49the run? Same with the clean and jerk.
- 32:51Like up until last about 10 days ago I have not done anything
- 32:56over. I think it was like I did 1
- 32:58heavy clean for legends to qualify with my wife.
- 33:01But other than that nothing over like 225.
- 33:04But I've done a lot of front squatting and I've done my
- 33:06jerks. And so like, it's cool to see,
- 33:08like, how are my knees going to hold up?
- 33:11Training and working around it and then being able to take all
- 33:14those things that I learned and figured out over the last, you
- 33:17know, 12 weeks and start to sprinkle them in for our
- 33:21community and our people that have, you know, some of those
- 33:23issues. And, and I think that's how our
- 33:26sport continues to evolve. We continue to try things and
- 33:30then go back and be able to share them with others.
- 33:34Awesome. Well, Scott, I don't want to
- 33:35take you any more time of you tonight, but thanks for joining
- 33:39us and good luck this weekend. Yeah, I have a question for you
- 33:42guys. What do you what do you guys
- 33:43think of the the weekend in the programming?
- 33:45Then I'll I'll let you go. I think you're going to win
- 33:48event 7 and then that's all I'm going to say.
- 33:52OK. What was the event?
- 33:557 is the overhead squats and. Boxes the one you're going to
- 33:58win. Don't worry about it.
- 34:01We have all just in our briefing, we did find out we're
- 34:04stepping down off of 30 inches. Oh.
- 34:07That's trash. Oh man, I was basing my whole
- 34:10thing off of that but. It's so.
- 34:13Hard. It's so hard to step down from a
- 34:1630 inch box it. Really is, dude.
- 34:18When they told Colton he had to do that, I felt so bad man
- 34:21'cause I was like this don't feel good for me.
- 34:24I like, I like almost can't, especially like on a tight day
- 34:27where I'm like, yeah, my hips don't feel good.
- 34:30It is like really hard to do go. YouTube Go to YouTube box jump,
- 34:3530 inch box jump step down. You can't find a video.
- 34:39But he does it. I have a whole bunch for it.
- 34:42My, my opinions on the program are are are completely colored
- 34:45by watching Hiller's video and total obstruction of it.
- 34:50I there there are some stuff like he has some major issues
- 34:53with it. I, I won't say that I'm that
- 34:57far, but I do think it's some of it's a little goofy.
- 34:59I do not understand for life me why you guys are doing weighted
- 35:02pistols. Number one, 'cause I just don't
- 35:05think they're a good movement. It's cool to watch, but it like
- 35:09I just don't think it's worth it.
- 35:10You can program something else around it.
- 35:12I think I get the intent of what they were trying to do, but I
- 35:15think the execution at large is is a little weird.
- 35:18I think their thought process is that we want to test mobility
- 35:21for masters. And and that's, I mean, I'm
- 35:24serious because I think, I think mobility should pay off.
- 35:28Like if you're super mobile as an older athlete, you should get
- 35:33points for that, You should get benefit for that.
- 35:34And I think that's the the thinking behind it.
- 35:37Maybe I'm wrong, but I could see that being a thing, yeah.
- 35:41Yeah. I mean if flexibility is a
- 35:43component of fitness for sure. I go back.
- 35:46To I go back to what we've been talking about just the regular
- 35:50individual CrossFit Games and teams is I just I still miss the
- 35:54outdoor like doing something different.
- 35:57And I feel like, and I have a viewer comment here we'll talk
- 36:01about in a bit, but like the you're finding the fittest in
- 36:06the gym. We're trying to find fittest in
- 36:09on earth. And like, I feel like that
- 36:11requires something outside the box and give you guys something
- 36:14that's like really cool different that you can't do
- 36:17inside of a gym, right? Because you could do all of
- 36:20these workouts inside your gym, but like to have that ability to
- 36:25do stuff outside to do some like again, some odd, odd elements,
- 36:30things that you've not seen before, I think is just really
- 36:32cool. Run.
- 36:33Yeah, we're gonna go for a little run.
- 36:35Yeah. You can't please with
- 36:37programming, Scott, if they don't like do the freaking I
- 36:40don't know capital you. Have to do the capital every
- 36:44year, yeah. I thought I thought the year Baz
- 36:47program was really creative, like it was really refreshing
- 36:51with new ideas and new things. Aside from the I would say the
- 36:57the crossovers, I thought that was the that was the only one.
- 37:00I was like this is like. You gotta take the good with the
- 37:02bad, man with the capital. You got these crossovers?
- 37:06Yeah, it's, it's easy and it's easy.
- 37:08I, I was actually talking to Baz about this.
- 37:11I said, you know, everybody wants to believe that what
- 37:16they've been training is CrossFit.
- 37:18So when you show up and you don't get the things that you
- 37:21were training for, you're like, this is in CrossFit.
- 37:22Like, what the heck are we doing?
- 37:24Like, I didn't sign up for this, but yeah, yeah, it'll be, it'll
- 37:28be a fun weekend. I think the only thing that I
- 37:31was not a huge fan of is like Amraps, like at the CrossFit
- 37:34Games, I think Andrew had. Had mentioned, Yeah.
- 37:37It's it's it makes the event completely boring as soon as you
- 37:40start. Yeah, I thought it would have
- 37:42been cool. I had mentioned to a couple
- 37:43people sitting by. I was like it would have been
- 37:45cool if they just said OK Max calorie on the row until the 18
- 37:49minute mark. Yeah.
- 37:51Or something once you get through it.
- 37:53Once you get through it and then just go for it, yeah.
- 37:56I would, I wouldn't mind an AMRAP if it was, if literally
- 38:00one person was able to do one round and so like like if it's
- 38:05that. You got.
- 38:06To you got to test it, you got to test it real well, but like
- 38:10if it's a 10 minute AMRAP and it's almost impossible to do one
- 38:14round so then if you had one guy or one girl get to do the first
- 38:19thing again like that could be exciting. 14.4 was kind of like
- 38:23that in the open, but it's a games version of that.
- 38:27But think of like the old days, like we regionals would always
- 38:31have that one workout where there would only be like 10 guys
- 38:34that would finish. It's always like a chipper, like
- 38:37the hundreds. The Hundreds.
- 38:39Like the hundreds Chipper, I think there was Rich and I were
- 38:42the own. There might have been one other
- 38:44person that finished that workout and I think.
- 38:46Murkowski was doing it. He finished it.
- 38:49No, no, no, he did not fit. He did not compete.
- 38:51That yeah, I'm saying I think it was before him, but if he was in
- 38:55there, he he finished. It I don't know, they're,
- 38:57they're 100. He finished every single.
- 38:59One, I promise. But yeah, I think like, but I
- 39:04always thought that was cool. Like just put an aggressive time
- 39:06cap and then you at least have a a checkpoint.
- 39:09I always feel like Amraps, it's like you're not really sure
- 39:12where people are going to finish.
- 39:14So it's like a safe, it's a safe thing to put in.
- 39:17Syndicate had one like that. In AMRAP, no.
- 39:20No, no, like the hundreds was a play on the hundreds.
- 39:23Yeah, that was cool. That was this past year, right?
- 39:25Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That one was fun to watch.
- 39:28In in an AMRAP workout, I mean, like you guys end up, I feel
- 39:31like, and tell me if I'm wrong, I feel like you guys end up
- 39:34going into it like you kind of know what you can pull off as
- 39:38far as pace. Find the guy who is in the lead
- 39:41or you try to get in the lead and then just barely stay there
- 39:44the whole time. Like you don't want to do any
- 39:46more work than you have. And so you're not even seeing
- 39:49the true representation of your fitness anyway.
- 39:51Well here's what's crazy is like you could like we could see in
- 39:55this 18 minute AMRAP, we could see half the field not get
- 39:59through the pistols. And or, or maybe maybe it takes
- 40:03them a while and they get onto the road, but then half the
- 40:06field does another 50 kettlebell hang cleans.
- 40:09Yeah, which like an extra 50 kettlebell hang cleans before
- 40:12carrying a 200 LB bag later at night.
- 40:14Are gonna that's a that's a big that's a big difference.
- 40:17So it's, it's, I think those are like the little details and I
- 40:20think when people, you know, talk about programming, and I
- 40:23think that's one thing that Dave has done really well in the
- 40:26years is like, I do think he has a really strong understanding of
- 40:28like how one workout is going to impact another workout.
- 40:33And, you know, obviously with his testing process and the
- 40:35people he's bringing in to do it, You, you, you see that, you
- 40:38know, throughout the weekend. But I think everybody's always
- 40:40going to have a, you know, a workout that maybe slips on by
- 40:45and kind of crossing your fingers, like, I hope somebody
- 40:49could get this done. You, you make a good point
- 40:51though. If I knew that I was trashed at
- 40:53pistols, I would just not go hard at all.
- 40:57And then you know you're going to get to them and just do one
- 41:01or two and then that's just what it's going to be, right?
- 41:03But you wouldn't have to work hard at all.
- 41:06So if somebody was really good at pistols and they're pushing
- 41:09for 18 minutes, 100% that would affect the rest of the
- 41:13competition. Yeah, we have a three minute
- 41:16AMRAP too that my I'm concerned is going to be a lot of ties.
- 41:20There's no tiebreaker for it and we're pushing deadlifts and
- 41:23pushing a sled. I'm hoping.
- 41:25That it will. But like I just, I'm not sure
- 41:27with 30 guys like. Is the sled like 10 foot
- 41:29sections? 20 feet down, 20 feet back so.
- 41:34And no points in between. There's they're 5 foot, it's 80.
- 41:38Foot so. The yeah, it's 80 feet, but you
- 41:40get 5 five foot increments. So I'm hoping it'll start to
- 41:44start to space out a little bit, but we don't know what the
- 41:47weight is on the sled yet, so we'll find.
- 41:49Out. Yeah.
- 41:50What if it's an? Empty.
- 41:51I hope it's an empty. Sled.
- 41:53I hope it's an empty sled too, because at least that would.
- 41:55What's the weight on the dead? Then you're just it's 3 minutes,
- 41:58so it's you're just flying. Think 800 meter for time flying.
- 42:02Right, it's. 3 deadlifts and an 80 foot sled push for three
- 42:08minutes. So yeah, I transit there's and
- 42:11there's got to be, there's a lot of transitions.
- 42:13Still so I hope it sprints. Yeah, heavy stud would ruin that
- 42:16event. I think so.
- 42:17Too. Yeah, you're right.
- 42:18I think it has to be like that's, you know, if you were
- 42:20programming that for your class, that's how you would program it.
- 42:23Heavy deadlifts Sprint a slit, so.
- 42:25Yeah, sounds like a workout. I would.
- 42:27Not I I programmed all the workouts, variations of the
- 42:30workouts for our gym. I always try to give our gym
- 42:32like a little bit of a taste of like what we do.
- 42:36Even when I was at the games, I felt like the games were
- 42:38actually easier to put in in the classes than the mask, than the
- 42:42masters, believe it or not. Like some of the.
- 42:44This year, this. This year specifically, like it
- 42:46was very simple and and and just easy to follows.
- 42:51It was fun. I thought they did a great year,
- 42:53great job on the individual side this year.
- 42:56How did you change the snatch workout for class?
- 42:58The snatch you. Just lowered the weight.
- 43:00Right. You just lowered the weight.
- 43:01I just wondered what the weight? What?
- 43:03You lowered the weight to 90. 5. 65130. 9 you could go.
- 43:06You could go real light, yeah. OK, cool.
- 43:10Scott, I appreciate it. Good luck tomorrow and then the
- 43:12rest of the weekend. Thanks guys.
- 43:14We're going, Scott. Good luck.
- 43:18Scott Pantry. There we go.
- 43:22I think you had him on a lot longer than you intended to.
- 43:24Have I did. I did.
- 43:26Hey, he was good. I appreciate.
- 43:28Scott. No, I know he's, he's great.
- 43:30He's. Good.
- 43:31All right. Rest of the show got some viewer
- 43:35comments you guys need to. We had some really good
- 43:38comments, but not a lot of comments, so make sure you throw
- 43:40those. In it up.
- 43:41For next. Week.
- 43:42These are rookie numbers. I went back through to our
- 43:46January 1st episode and pulled all of our predictions for 2025,
- 43:50and we're going to see how well we have done scared, and then
- 43:58we'll do some blind rankings and then we'll finish up with
- 44:00something I don't know. All right.
- 44:02First up, were your Kais comments not working for half
- 44:06the time? Yes, they weren't.
- 44:08They weren't. I had weighed one comment and I
- 44:10almost thought of like, I'll go in and go back out and like, see
- 44:14I and then they just all appeared.
- 44:16Yeah. So.
- 44:16If we didn't pull up your comments, it's because we didn't
- 44:21see them for half the time and then.
- 44:22I pulled up. YouTube because I was like, what
- 44:24the? Hell little show comments on
- 44:26stage. I almost clicked that and I'm
- 44:28like I'm just going to wait till Scotts off just in case.
- 44:30That like. Happened because I didn't know
- 44:31what would happen if I pressed it so you.
- 44:35Mean this one, this one here. Is that what happens?
- 44:38Yeah. OK, so so that's that.
- 44:40That wouldn't have been that bad, but I didn't know what was
- 44:42going to happen. So I just like, I'll just wait.
- 44:43Till I I started freaking out because I didn't know if we were
- 44:46actually on. I was like, it shows that we're
- 44:47live. That's what I was.
- 44:49Wondering 0 comments and it doesn't show any viewers.
- 44:51I was like, oh man. Stream yard go yeah he goes
- 44:54screwing with shit sometimes they've.
- 44:55Done some upgrades and I think they probably, I don't know if
- 44:58something was messed up. Anyway, back to viewer comments.
- 45:01All right First one is from Vishal Sawaria 6549.
- 45:09I want to one article on your website.
- 45:12May I know your e-mail Idi have ready order reply me fast.
- 45:19Great comment. No.
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- 45:23comment from Vishal. Actually, my e-mail for Vishal
- 45:28is Brian friend at Be Friendly fitness.com.
- 45:32I don't know. Is that true, Patrick?
- 45:33I don't know. Let's see next one up at Jesse
- 45:37Goodrich 6799. It's cool to watch the pros
- 45:41compete, even if the WFP is mediocre.
- 45:45Please cover it so. You're welcome to watch.
- 45:50You're welcome to watch the WFP. They have their.
- 45:52Own website, Those are ringing endorsement.
- 45:55We need a little grace to make that work.
- 45:57Oh, you want to do that? You want to do that, I tell.
- 46:00Like, do you? Obviously.
- 46:01A paid show? Absolutely.
- 46:03It's your show. It's your show.
- 46:05If, if, if, if they, if the fans like the viewers donate.
- 46:11If we get $1000, we'll cover. We'll cover WFP and the next
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- 46:20How much? I I said 1000, do you think I
- 46:23would do? It for $1000.
- 46:24I do it for 99999. So if we if we have that.
- 46:27$10,000 No. $999 Oh, OK. So yeah, if you guys want to
- 46:33donate, really want us to cover it, that is our price and then
- 46:36we will cover. We'll do it like we do every
- 46:38competition. Hey and you can donate after the
- 46:41show. Don't think you meant just
- 46:43during the live stream. We we can keep track of this.
- 46:46Let's see how much support. We could spin cast it.
- 46:49We spin cast it. For that, we'll spin, we will
- 46:51do, we'll go all out, but that's that's the rate and and yeah.
- 46:56It only takes 2. It only takes 2 of you.
- 46:59Where was it? Yeah, it only takes 2 of you,
- 47:00Barry. Only two.
- 47:02So let's see. You could do that too.
- 47:07It's up to you guys. That guy doesn't.
- 47:09That guy hates me. Whoever this person is, he's he.
- 47:11I don't think he's ever done a positive comment, ever.
- 47:14I think he's just a very sad person.
- 47:15He's a nice guy. Yeah, I'm pretty sure he's on
- 47:19Reddit. He's one of those people.
- 47:22You know what I'm talking about? You know how?
- 47:23Much. Just how much?
- 47:24Just to get Tyler and Spin Standy throwing out $499.
- 47:28And a butt. Is this PBS?
- 47:31It could be, Could be they did well.
- 47:34By you they that's what I. Barbara, every quarter they
- 47:37would do like their fundraiser and hold you hostage so you
- 47:39couldn't watch Sesame Street. So, yeah, all right, Funk Zone,
- 47:49there's there's there's a way to sell the barbell that isn't
- 47:54shitting on healthcare. The doctors are doing their
- 47:57best. Crush big insurance.
- 48:00Speaking of Speaking of crush big insurance, CrossFit, medical
- 48:04societies, community care, you can scan the QR code right down
- 48:07there and get better health insurance alternative.
- 48:13So. I don't what did he want to
- 48:16clip. Something about the WFP?
- 48:19Oh OK dude. Crush big insurance.
- 48:23This shirt is about the big crush me.
- 48:25This thing is so small. It's a large.
- 48:27I was like, Oh my God. Dang, got that daddy weight.
- 48:32Yeah, I've lost like 7 lbs. Cool Tyler.
- 48:38I wish I could do that and I can't and it's really
- 48:42frustrating. 2O four has been a wall, and it has never been like
- 48:46that before. Stop eating this cake.
- 48:50I think mine is like muscle mass 'cause I'm not training the same
- 48:54man anymore or it's inflammation.
- 48:57Yeah, if it's muscle mass then that shirt and shirt should not
- 49:00be as tight as it is. Peter Schachtler.
- 49:05Schachteler. Peter Schachteler when the games
- 49:08is just gym shit man you guys we find the best Crossfitter not
- 49:13the fittest on earth. You got it.
- 49:19The CrossFit Games is not about finding the best.
- 49:21CrossFit Vicky Vicky 999 to not cover the.
- 49:25WFP. He knows what's up.
- 49:27So is. That.
- 49:27The running price to not cover it.
- 49:30Who wins? Who wins We need now it needs to
- 49:34be 1010 dollars. Because.
- 49:38We have, we have, we have a net negative right now on covering
- 49:43the WF the all the way. Beijing can cover US guaranteed
- 49:494.52 mil so dude. I'm crazy cool dude and I want
- 49:56Caleb to suck so bad. So bad.
- 49:58I've never like been so and I, you know, I'm a Vikings fan, die
- 50:02hard Vikings fan. So it's just, it's just perfect
- 50:05for me to root against him. He's the reason the Vikings got
- 50:09male cheerleaders and I hate it. I want to see what, pardon my
- 50:13take, should be coming out with an episode tonight.
- 50:16And I. Want.
- 50:17To see what they say. Make it change.
- 50:21Oh, let's go. This worked out perfect, man.
- 50:24Oh my goodness. Oh my.
- 50:27God keep it coming guys, we don't want to cover it.
- 50:30We need your help to not cover the WFP.
- 50:35Or else let's see at will will no Rep you 1/28/16 on last
- 50:43episode. What about the queen Slayer?
- 50:45Lucy Campbell won Wadapalooza here, Wadapalooza and Finner
- 50:50second at the games. I feel like we talked a.
- 50:55Lot I don't know also John October 7th can still happen
- 50:59it's only a month and a half away it.
- 51:01Was the wrong. Word.
- 51:02I mean that would be what if that?
- 51:05Happened and then like guys, I think I think like I have God
- 51:11with me and like I just don't know when it's going to happen,
- 51:13but he lets me know in spirit. You know what I mean?
- 51:15I just, I don't. If that happened, I, I just
- 51:20like, I'm going to stop making predictions at that point.
- 51:22I'm just going to be like, whatever, John.
- 51:24Says if that that if that were to happen in some way, I have
- 51:28ascended. We need to.
- 51:29I need a. New title because.
- 51:30It doesn't fit anymore and I don't even know.
- 51:32I don't even know what's happening.
- 51:34Like that's the thing. I it's not even me doing it.
- 51:37I it's, it's something else that's doing it.
- 51:39It would be amazing. And the last comment from Andrew
- 51:43Farmer, You know where this is going?
- 51:45I didn't realize. Oh, there you go, Lauren
- 51:47Torresola. Torresola.
- 51:49Judy, are you tracking this? Yeah, keep it.
- 51:52Keep it up. Judy.
- 51:55I didn't realize my Murfreesboro News contribution was missed.
- 51:59It definitely was, and true dearly we.
- 52:01Always need a Murfreesboro update.
- 52:03This week in Murfreesboro, Barrett Rifles broke ground
- 52:06today on their next firearms manufacturing facility, a
- 52:10250,000 square foot campus. Also also hopefully that wall
- 52:16log gets done soon. Going to have to feed and and
- 52:20and nourish all these firearms workers.
- 52:25I would like to bring this up just a little bit spent.
- 52:27Can can, can you? Can you look up a picture of
- 52:30like the Vikings cheerleaders? Just type in Vikings male
- 52:33cheerleader. Did you know I cheerlead for one
- 52:37basketball season in high school?
- 52:38That's awesome, dude. I actually did a couple of
- 52:40practices as well, just I lost. I was last placed in my fantasy
- 52:44Football League and that was the thing you had to try out for the
- 52:45cheerleading team. But I was I was on the
- 52:47basketball team. So like I I never could have
- 52:50done anything right a the football team like it never
- 52:53would have lined up, but spin's going to pull up a picture of
- 52:57them. My wife made a great point here.
- 53:01Do that first picture with the right here in the white because
- 53:04they don't look like that's that's what he looks like.
- 53:07That's him. That's the real deal.
- 53:08That's now. Joe, Joe Ellis is, is is
- 53:12branching out. Guys, stop.
- 53:15The. Now my wife made a point.
- 53:18These are the male cheerleaders. My wife, my wife made a point
- 53:21that they have cheerleaders in college, the male cheerleaders,
- 53:26and they have muscles because they're throwing the girls in
- 53:29the air. Nobody has a problem with it.
- 53:31They're not. They're not this OK.
- 53:34And it's this DEI thing that the NFL is trying to push. 12
- 53:40different teams have it. I want if we're going to have
- 53:43male cheerleaders, I want legit once.
- 53:46I don't want guys. Trying to get to meet.
- 53:49Girls on the cheer team and I, and I don't care if people get
- 53:57upset about that. I don't care.
- 53:58That's, that's the how I feel. That's how I feel dude.
- 54:00I remember going to UK games and the the the male cheerleaders,
- 54:03the guy who would throw the girls and stuff.
- 54:06They were humongous. They were shredded out of their
- 54:10mind. No.
- 54:10And and like they need to because they're throwing them up
- 54:13in there and they're like they're cheer.
- 54:15Cheerleaders are freaking athletes.
- 54:16Man. Yeah, they really, really are.
- 54:20Not those ones. Not.
- 54:22Them at all? Those are dancers.
- 54:26They. Are and and I just I and I don't
- 54:29know, it makes obviously it's my favorite team and I I like it.
- 54:33That gets thrown in my face a bunch.
- 54:35But and my mom is quick to point out no male cheerleaders on the
- 54:40Texans. Cool mom.
- 54:41That's cool. I don't even care if you're a
- 54:44male cheerleader. I want real ones if we're going
- 54:47to have them. You know, there's male
- 54:49cheerleaders at Mizzou. Nobody cares.
- 54:51Nobody cares because they're actual cheerleaders doing their
- 54:55thing. They're not this agenda being
- 54:57pushed. And that's exactly what it is.
- 54:59If people get mad, it's an agenda being pushed, and I
- 55:02don't, I don't care for it. And by the way, the Eagles have
- 55:06them too, OK? It's not just the Vikings, the
- 55:08freaking Super Bowl team. They have them too.
- 55:12My thing is, I don't know that I rolled this out at the Vikings.
- 55:15It's the wrong crowd. I mean, there's not really good
- 55:18crowd in the NFL. You don't.
- 55:19Yeah, the NFL is a bad crowd. Was this a coordinated like
- 55:23effort 5? Teams 12 teams 12 teams in the
- 55:26NFL. Got this all decided all.
- 55:28Decided here now, if you look it up, there's been male cheer like
- 55:31I did a deep dive on it 'cause I was, I was upset about it one
- 55:34day if if you did a deep dive. There have been male
- 55:36cheerleaders since 2018, but it hasn't been.
- 55:40It's not what this is not dancers, OK.
- 55:43And that's what it is now. 12 teams this year got them.
- 55:49The Ravens are up there. The Ravens have like 12 of them.
- 55:51The Eagles have them. The Vikings have two of them.
- 55:56And I only went, I only did this dive because people keep sending
- 55:59me stuff about them. And I, I'm sick.
- 56:00I, I don't, I don't want to look at it.
- 56:02And it's not like like, you know, it's not a thing of like
- 56:06I'm telling people how to live their lives.
- 56:11It's just, it's just, I just don't like it.
- 56:14All right. I don't like an agenda being
- 56:16pushed, it's ridiculous. All right.
- 56:18Well, we're going to move on to the 2025 predictions.
- 56:23See how we are right after this break?
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- 57:16All right, 2025 predictions. The very beginning of the year,
- 57:20the very first day of 2025, we decided to go through and give
- 57:25our predictions of what we thought would happen this year.
- 57:30And they ranged from games predictions to what else,
- 57:36athlete predictions, Berkshire predictions, all kinds of stuff.
- 57:43And we're going to see how well we did because I'd say almost
- 57:46all of them could be decided on at this point.
- 57:50That's true. And you know what, If somebody
- 57:53said I don't want to look at that, I wouldn't blame them.
- 57:59I I. You know what?
- 58:00And I would say I I get it. I get it.
- 58:02I wish they weren't that tight. I wish they weren't that tight.
- 58:04I can't help it. Yeah.
- 58:07All right. Here we go.
- 58:08First one and I got this is going to be we we're up in the
- 58:11production value this time. So here is the very first
- 58:15prediction that we gave almost 8 months ago.
- 58:19My very first one is at least one perennial Games athlete will
- 58:27miss the Games due to a scheduling conflict with the
- 58:31World Fitness Project and all that stuff.
- 58:33And so like what I mean by that is they're contracted to do a
- 58:36competition. They didn't make the online,
- 58:40maybe you can do multiple and they were only able to do 1 and
- 58:43then like they couldn't do another one because of it.
- 58:46A scheduling conflict of some sort will cause at least one
- 58:50perennial games athlete by that like over 2 times to miss the
- 58:55games. Feel like I was dead on the
- 58:59money. I think so.
- 59:02Looking back, that was a low. That was a low bar.
- 59:06I think at the time it wasn't. Time we didn't know.
- 59:08We didn't know how it was going to play out.
- 59:09Yeah. We didn't know anything.
- 59:11Emily was the first one that comes to my mind, but are there
- 59:13more spin? I mean, you said perennial.
- 59:16So I mean, I guess technically Anniel wouldn't fit into that,
- 59:19but you have a lot of the European athletes who did want
- 59:23to compete. They would go to they went to
- 59:25Indianapolis for world fitness project.
- 59:26They skipped out on the French Throwdown, and so you all right
- 59:33there, Tyler? Underrated comment.
- 59:41That was great. So no, I, I think while it may
- 59:46not be super obvious, I'd say BKG like all those guys who did
- 59:53World fitness project, well, it's whether it's direct
- 59:56scheduling conflict where they couldn't do 2 competitions
- 59:59because. It was the same weekend or
- 1:00:02there's back-to-back to back and people picked and choose what
- 1:00:05they were going to do, right? BKG, you put all of his eggs
- 1:00:08into the semifinal basket. He didn't go to Wanda and he
- 1:00:11didn't go to French third down because he also had World
- 1:00:13Fitness project. So I would say 100% that is
- 1:00:17right on track. All right, starting off with the
- 1:00:20the win and I can't, I can't, I can't.
- 1:00:24You clearly did not hear what I said.
- 1:00:26I'm like, all about the college cheerleaders.
- 1:00:28They're fine because they're actually doing stuff.
- 1:00:30I actually complimented male cheerleaders.
- 1:00:33Go back and watch the tape. See me rolling, OK?
- 1:00:38Don't comment something stupid. If you didn't watch it all,
- 1:00:41gather all the information. OK?
- 1:00:44Emma Would Emma Lawson count? No.
- 1:00:47She did the world fitness project.
- 1:00:49But it wasn't a schedule that she skipped the opening.
- 1:00:52Piece of her back, yeah, I'm with you, I'm with you, I'm with
- 1:00:54you. But.
- 1:00:55All right. Second prediction, this one goes
- 1:00:57to, I guess it's technically not a prediction, but Tyler threw
- 1:01:00this in here. We had a good discussion.
- 1:01:02Isn't one of my predictions is just a fun thought over under
- 1:01:06how many games athletes of the top 20 so 40 will not be there
- 1:01:14from last year. I would say probably.
- 1:01:17Let me put that at like 10. Yeah.
- 1:01:24Over no. No, no, no.
- 1:01:26I mean, that's a great number. I I would have to like put a
- 1:01:30hard look on it. That's.
- 1:01:32Men and women. Are we counting like Laura and
- 1:01:35Emma? Yeah.
- 1:01:36We're counting like Emma's not going.
- 1:01:38She's retired. I kind of want to lean towards
- 1:01:40like the whole WFP thing, but there's the Lazar stuff too, so
- 1:01:43we'll just say everything. Do do you guys know how many
- 1:01:49athletes top 20 men and women do not I.
- 1:01:52Mean, I think it's over, Ted. It is 12 keep going. 15 Keep
- 1:02:00going. 19. Yes, 19.
- 1:02:03Whoa. Let's go through.
- 1:02:06The low line. All right, Brent.
- 1:02:07Brent. Velner, Sam.
- 1:02:11Keep going. Keiko Saxon due to WFP, Yes.
- 1:02:17Travis Mayer, Heinrich Yella, BKG called Grace Saver.
- 1:02:25Angela Kai. Yeah, that's it, 10 and.
- 1:02:28Then that's so 10 just for the men. 10 for the men and then on
- 1:02:32the women's side. Gabby, Emily, Bethany Paige
- 1:02:41Simenza, Alex Kazan. Kind of, kind of.
- 1:02:44Yep. And then, OK, the women were a
- 1:02:48little bit better. Emma Lawson, Carolyn Stanley,
- 1:02:51Linda Keesman and then Chloe Govan.
- 1:02:53Different. That's nine, could say 8 maybe
- 1:02:55if you don't count Alex. She would have been like, yeah,
- 1:03:00she would have. Qualified.
- 1:03:01It wasn't wasn't her choosing Yeah 19, almost half of the Top
- 1:03:0940 last year, or the Top 40 men, or top 20 men and women, 40
- 1:03:14athletes. Crazy town banana pan.
- 1:03:19Good. I'm giving my double point for
- 1:03:21that. But I don't.
- 1:03:22Dude, that was good. That was good.
- 1:03:24But I don't think you would have said that the games was any less
- 1:03:29because of it. No, no, I, yeah, I I thought the
- 1:03:32games was better than last year. Obviously there's a lot of
- 1:03:35different circumstances, but. Yeah, yeah, 1.
- 1:03:40I think the I think the games is better than the last four years,
- 1:03:42so I'll put it like that. I like 22.
- 1:03:50That's good. All right, Tyler, this is your
- 1:03:52real prediction for the first one over.
- 1:03:56Half the events at the Mayhem Classic will be iconic, rich
- 1:04:01Froning workouts, like ones we remember, ones that were
- 1:04:07programmed before. Maybe not by him.
- 1:04:10And they will be moments where we saw Rich.
- 1:04:12Like the exact event. Like push, pull, shit like that.
- 1:04:15But like, it's exactly that event.
- 1:04:18Yeah, or it won't be exactly that event or a version of that.
- 1:04:21It'll be a version on those events like I'm thinking about.
- 1:04:23The 1st 2:00. Point stand Yeah, no, no.
- 1:04:29The the the GHD. The GHD.
- 1:04:33Lunge handstand walk workout. That was a really good one.
- 1:04:36Call this one. How about this prediction?
- 1:04:37We should have invited Souza on Stop It.
- 1:04:42Stop it, Souza. I.
- 1:04:46Don't know the Tyler. I feel like I'm gonna not give
- 1:04:48that to you. Why?
- 1:04:50Like I know he did like a post of This is why where we got this
- 1:04:54from, but the workouts weren't like most workouts at all.
- 1:04:57They were very deep. There's only 5.
- 1:05:00Yeah. So you had to, I would say the
- 1:05:02thruster legless one. I would give that one to you
- 1:05:07with the dumbbell thrusters in the legless work rope climbs.
- 1:05:10I'm not giving myself the 1st. From what?
- 1:05:13What would you say that's the same legless?
- 1:05:14In 2013 it was thrusters and legless rope climbs.
- 1:05:17OK. That's.
- 1:05:19It was literally the same 2 movements and then it's just
- 1:05:21it's just more reps and the the Rep scheme went down the same
- 1:05:26way. All right, I'll.
- 1:05:28Give it to you. I know you weren't looking at
- 1:05:29that spin, but I I 100% heavy Isabel was not a classic Rich
- 1:05:34Froning workout. I mean, it wasn't, dude.
- 1:05:37Yeah, it was an AdvoCare deal. OK, That's not that's not.
- 1:05:42Shout out AdvoCare. The hundreds in no way was
- 1:05:45anything, No. So what do we have?
- 1:05:481st event. The first event in the.
- 1:05:50That one was too. That one was too derivative.
- 1:05:53It was, yeah. It was way too off of Burden run
- 1:05:55and the last one was nothing. That was like it one 1:00-ish.
- 1:06:01Nailed it. OK.
- 1:06:03I'll give you points for that one, but.
- 1:06:05That's all right. All right, this one, this one is
- 1:06:09me and kind of Tyler. I'm going outside the games
- 1:06:15still related to it. I'm going to say Berkshire sells
- 1:06:20CrossFit LL. Damn, end of the year.
- 1:06:22That was my I, I, I OK all one up.
- 1:06:26You. Off the record?
- 1:06:28Off the record to who? I don't know.
- 1:06:32OK. Six months I didn't.
- 1:06:33I didn't know anybody in mine. Within the six before the games.
- 1:06:39Before the games sold. For the games.
- 1:06:41You would think they would sell it right after the games unless
- 1:06:45somebody else dies then before the games would be better.
- 1:06:51Gosh I can't believe I said that.
- 1:06:54So y'all don't get a point? 'Cause we don't know.
- 1:06:58Still, that one's still up in the air.
- 1:06:59But Tyler did not get his right. It was not before the Games.
- 1:07:02I, I feel like this was before Emma Lawson withdrew, right?
- 1:07:05I feel like I said Emma Lawson's going to win the CrossFit Games
- 1:07:08at some point in here and then she withdrew like a month later.
- 1:07:11So I already know that's coming, but I I.
- 1:07:14I'm still holding out hope it's it's imminent.
- 1:07:17That's what I've been told. We've been told that for a
- 1:07:20month, dude. Yeah, any day now.
- 1:07:22Any day now. Just keep waiting.
- 1:07:24We'll be there. All right, Let's see next one.
- 1:07:30John. John, you go back-to-back here
- 1:07:32because you got a whole bunch of them.
- 1:07:34Yeah. Where is the hawk To a coin.
- 1:07:36So is it going up? Swallowed.
- 1:07:40Is she still? Is she still?
- 1:07:41Around swallowed. Oh my God, I think she got in
- 1:07:48some legal trouble. Like some real.
- 1:07:50Bad legal. Trouble.
- 1:07:52Oh no, poor girl. Too many people bat around her.
- 1:07:57All right, here we go, John. Both Jason and Dallin's teams
- 1:08:03will podium, so neither of the neither of them have podium.
- 1:08:09They both got in fourth place twice, their team down in Jason,
- 1:08:14and I'm going to say both of their teams podium at
- 1:08:18Wadapalooza. So so Dalan's replacing Jay
- 1:08:20Crouch on last year's winning team.
- 1:08:23Which means nothing. The events suited go Wod. 3rd
- 1:08:29place go Wod, 4th place PJS. Dang it.
- 1:08:35So close all. Right.
- 1:08:36Well, so close. That's OK.
- 1:08:38That's OK. And John stays with his He has
- 1:08:41another one that's very personal to himself here I.
- 1:08:44Think somebody called this in the chat.
- 1:08:46Good on you. I think it was Phil, but it's
- 1:08:50lesser known athlete. OK, but John Young is going to
- 1:08:56is going to clean 405. That's going to happen in 20. 25
- 1:08:59lesser known athlete. OK, that's going to happen.
- 1:09:02On the grid. Stage you think?
- 1:09:04I don't think so. I don't think they do Max's, but
- 1:09:05it will happen and you will hear about it.
- 1:09:10We heard about it. Here it is four O 5, March 12th.
- 1:09:18Some supplements to help with this.
- 1:09:20Stop it Tyler, right now. Don't ruin that for me.
- 1:09:26This was crazy. Your bottom position is crazy.
- 1:09:36I was thinking it's the first time I've ever smiled like after
- 1:09:40that way. I I'm very, very even keel with
- 1:09:44lifting. But yeah, 330 snatch is on the
- 1:09:48way at 2026 prediction. Nice, There you go.
- 1:09:53You got that one right. Yeah, all.
- 1:09:55Right, let's see, this one goes back to me.
- 1:09:58What number is this #7? One of my predictions.
- 1:10:02I'll go to the Games this time. Tia clear to me wins the
- 1:10:08CrossFit Games. Whoa, going out on a ledge?
- 1:10:12Dallon Pepper also wins the CrossFit.
- 1:10:14There you go, There it is. And Tia retires.
- 1:10:18After after she wins. That's a bigger prediction than
- 1:10:21anything you've said. I think Tia is staying for five
- 1:10:24doesn't count. If she retires before.
- 1:10:26I think he is. I think Tia is going to stay
- 1:10:29until Willow goes to college. I think Tia is going to be 53
- 1:10:33years old and still win the CrossFit Games.
- 1:10:35She going to do the LeBron and his son thing.
- 1:10:38Yep, Yep. Until Willow's good enough to
- 1:10:41make a real competition, Tia's going to do the CrossFit Games.
- 1:10:45Then do it one year together. And Willow will make it at 14
- 1:10:49and and then yeah, and then obviously be burnt out and, you
- 1:10:52know, never do CrossFit, ever. So is that a parlay 'cause it
- 1:10:57was? 3/3.
- 1:10:58I mean he was wrong on everything.
- 1:10:59But yeah, so it's close. I'm giving you 1/3 of a point.
- 1:11:06I'll take it. I don't.
- 1:11:07Think we should give for Tia Toomey?
- 1:11:09We're going to give him. One point.
- 1:11:12What? Hey, no.
- 1:11:13Go back to January 1st. We didn't know she was even
- 1:11:15going to do the open at that point.
- 1:11:17That's true. I called it.
- 1:11:19She was actually going to do the open.
- 1:11:20Yeah, you. Ready you did I?
- 1:11:24Called it. No, there you.
- 1:11:29Go Hey guys, remember what I called Tia Toomey to win the
- 1:11:31CrossFit Games? Yeah, take that.
- 1:11:35Oh, that was good. All right, this one is a little
- 1:11:38bit longer with the let Tyler. Is Gary?
- 1:11:41I say it has. Wax poetic here.
- 1:11:42This would be a good one, so enjoy.
- 1:11:44Add Tyler, your next one. I wanted to do this in a polite
- 1:11:51way but and I'm not doing it in a rude way.
- 1:11:54No, but this will be the last water pool is that we see on a
- 1:11:58live stream of. What?
- 1:12:03What? The friendly death of water.
- 1:12:05Palooza, it is not for what you think.
- 1:12:08I think with the the athletes signing.
- 1:12:12These contracts. Well, I think people would say
- 1:12:15like, oh, it's either because of Brian or water.
- 1:12:19Palooza's been on a camp. I thought.
- 1:12:21That why no don't we thought, oh, nobody thought that weird,
- 1:12:27I'm sorry or. Or they want to think that it's
- 1:12:32because Water Palooza is on like a downhill trend.
- 1:12:37I don't think it's because of that.
- 1:12:38I think it's because with the athletes signing these contracts
- 1:12:42and there's going to be turmoil between WFP and CrossFit, all of
- 1:12:46you are making big points of this.
- 1:12:48Today's been on on Pedro's show where it's just going to split
- 1:12:52everybody and they're going to be dedicated to the events that
- 1:12:55they're already dedicated to. They're not going to have any
- 1:12:57time left. Rogue's going to take a hit.
- 1:12:58If they don't do something, they'll pull out the cash for
- 1:13:00it. Water Palooza doesn't have that
- 1:13:02cash anymore. And so this might, this is, I'm
- 1:13:06going to predict, this is the end of Water Palooza, as we
- 1:13:09know. There it is, the end of Tijuana
- 1:13:13Palooza as we know it. In at that time.
- 1:13:15Go up in the air, technically. I'm I'm 100% wrong.
- 1:13:21Dear Dylan, I apologize for making that prediction.
- 1:13:25Stop it. Right now.
- 1:13:28Oh no. No, I that this whole WFP thing
- 1:13:34is playing out a lot differently than I considered back then.
- 1:13:38I, I, I think I was a lot more hype on it being a threat back
- 1:13:42then than I am now. I mean, they're sinking that
- 1:13:44ship faster than we can put in a bucket.
- 1:13:47The water out. What if we cover it next year?
- 1:13:51Well, if we get that $1000 for the Joe, we'll probably save it
- 1:13:55ourselves. But no, I I'm totally reverse to
- 1:14:00this now. This is also this is also made
- 1:14:04though this prediction was made before the move to March and now
- 1:14:10we know that the open is the same weeks and 26.3 is the same
- 1:14:17weekend as 2026 tier water Palooza Miami Beach.
- 1:14:24And if the rumors are true true, the world fitness projects going
- 1:14:29to have their first event two weeks after that.
- 1:14:32Oh man, so maybe your prediction really was this is the start of
- 1:14:37the end. Of what?
- 1:14:40Water Palooza. It's not the last one aired, but
- 1:14:44this is the start of the end. No, I think it's the complete
- 1:14:49reversal. I think it's, it is a new
- 1:14:52breath. I I'm I'm 100% turning 180 on
- 1:14:56this. But athletes aren't going to go.
- 1:14:58They are 100% going to go to this one.
- 1:15:00They have to the Open and the World Fitness Project at the
- 1:15:03same time. John, let's just walk through
- 1:15:05the logistics of this. I'm.
- 1:15:06Ready. Let's walk.
- 1:15:08The Open, The last week of the open is the same weekend as
- 1:15:12Waterpalooza. And you think that that's not
- 1:15:14coordinated? Sorry, what is it?
- 1:15:17Ah. So well, the first event is is
- 1:15:21the open workout. I still think that'll be the
- 1:15:24case. Yes, that's my.
- 1:15:25That's my I. Think you'd be.
- 1:15:27I think you would be an absolute idiot if you did not think that
- 1:15:29that was coordinated. OK, I'm with you.
- 1:15:33The the spectacle that that will create for the entire sphere, I
- 1:15:38think is it will it will rival the best open announcements
- 1:15:42we've ever seen. The.
- 1:15:44Production, we've already had an open announcement.
- 1:15:46A lot of plues though. But individuals start on
- 1:15:48Thursday. But yes, we've had a one
- 1:15:51announcement, but to have all the individuals do it, you have
- 1:15:54all loud. Yeah, you have all of the
- 1:15:57community divisions do it. You did that before.
- 1:16:00You have, hey, was that strength in depth maybe?
- 1:16:04And you have all of the other fans can do it like you think
- 1:16:08about you have a extra stage where all of the fans can just
- 1:16:10cycle through and do the open just.
- 1:16:15Wow, yeah. Yeah, all of it.
- 1:16:17The amount of content. OK, OK.
- 1:16:19Party feel of all of that, the crescendo and then and then the
- 1:16:23fact that the open is not nearly as like cutting as it used to
- 1:16:28be. Like as far as like if athletes
- 1:16:30don't do it exactly right, they're out.
- 1:16:33Like the athletes just basically need to do it at capacity that
- 1:16:36they're used to doing it and they'll be fine.
- 1:16:38It's the open. It's the open now, but this is
- 1:16:41this, this is a pivot that the entire open could make.
- 1:16:45I mean, the the excitement that would be drawn out of
- 1:16:50Waterpalooza will be hard to duplicate in other places.
- 1:16:53But I think like if you have a good week 1 open announcement
- 1:16:56and a good Week 2 open announcement, that last one is a
- 1:17:00crescendo at Waterpalooza would be like, that'd be it'll be the
- 1:17:03re Watch that. It'll be the RE, the rekindling
- 1:17:10of the open. I want to say they did that at
- 1:17:13Taurian 20.5 maybe where it was to choose your own adventure,
- 1:17:18the 120 wall balls, 40 ring muscle UPS and then 80.
- 1:17:27What was the other movement row, 80 Cal row?
- 1:17:29Yeah. So do you think you think that's
- 1:17:34they've done that before? That's all I'm saying.
- 1:17:36It's, it's been done before, but it would work.
- 1:17:40I I'm, I'm with you, I'm with you.
- 1:17:42It would work. If you're a top, if you're a top
- 1:17:48games athlete, if you're assigned pro, if you're assigned
- 1:17:51pro athlete, do you do Tijuana, Palooza, indie or team or?
- 1:18:00You look like an asshole. I think you, I think you still
- 1:18:02do everything you guys think the games was what, 3 weeks?
- 1:18:064 weeks. What?
- 1:18:10The the the this one that's coming up, is it four games or
- 1:18:13three weeks? 4 weeks later.
- 1:18:15So I mean, I think you do everything as you would and then
- 1:18:18it's just the next thing up you're.
- 1:18:20Just show up. Right.
- 1:18:21It's just a contract. And I think we're going to see
- 1:18:25like they wanted it to take over, but we're going to see
- 1:18:29that no, they're just showing up and clocking them in.
- 1:18:32It's not. They're not training for it.
- 1:18:35And then the people that you've hitched your wagon to don't
- 1:18:37train like they used to, because not the freaking CrossFit Games.
- 1:18:43Very well could be. Clip this one.
- 1:18:45Clip it. OK, we'll do that.
- 1:18:48Let's see next one. It's mine #9 Here we go talking
- 1:18:53about the 2025 open registrations.
- 1:18:56The open registration in 2024 is 344,000 over under.
- 1:19:02I'm going to put the over under at 275,000.
- 1:19:07I'm under, I'm taking the under dude, I'm going to say over
- 1:19:12registration. I'm.
- 1:19:14That's a 20% decrease. Yeah, I'm going to say the open
- 1:19:20registration is going to be 252,000 and 365.
- 1:19:27Mark it. Put it down 25236.
- 1:19:30Five Why do you think it's that far down?
- 1:19:32252365 Book it. You heard it here first.
- 1:19:38The actual number The actual number was 234,780.
- 1:19:42It's. Pretty close.
- 1:19:44It was darn close. Damn the under.
- 1:19:49Yep. It seems, it seems a little
- 1:19:53weird now that like the Games, we had a good games, everybody
- 1:19:57seems hype about a little bit more hype about CrossFit.
- 1:20:00It seems weird that the open numbers for that, right?
- 1:20:03I mean, the open numbers, what about like what the games
- 1:20:05attendance was? I think everybody who did it, I
- 1:20:09think, I mean, I think it's only going to grow from here.
- 1:20:11This will be the low point. And we've had this, it's
- 1:20:14happened before when Greg first sold it, it when 2020 COVID
- 1:20:19happened like it went down and then it went back up and then it
- 1:20:22went down again and it's going to and now we're it's going to
- 1:20:25start going back up. But the thing.
- 1:20:27Is the most wrong. The thing is The thing is and
- 1:20:31spin. Please correct me if if I'm
- 1:20:35wrong because I I think I know but like I might be wrong.
- 1:20:39The starting point when it goes back up has been higher every
- 1:20:44single time that we went back down.
- 1:20:45Does that make sense? Not the peak, the peak hasn't,
- 1:20:49but the starting point of like where it stuck started, right?
- 1:20:52It goes 2014 is the peak, but it started at 2000, you know, 7
- 1:20:58right? And then it went down and then
- 1:21:01it peaks back at like 2023 and then it went back down.
- 1:21:06But like where that starting position is, it's the highest
- 1:21:09starting position we've ever had.
- 1:21:11So it's, it's, I think it's going to continue to grow.
- 1:21:13Obviously I'm optimistic. Obviously I have.
- 1:21:16This is what we do. I wanted to succeed, but I I
- 1:21:20think it's only going to get. Higher from here.
- 1:21:22Just wait till you see some move Max open workouts.
- 1:21:25Wow really? Take off like a rocket ship. 40
- 1:21:29minute AMRAP. Meredith Vogel, Thomas Dallin
- 1:21:33mentioned there might be a change to that format on Boys
- 1:21:36Interrupted. She don't know.
- 1:21:38Tierra water Palooza, Water Palooza.
- 1:21:42Tierra water palooza. They know something.
- 1:21:44They know something. Seema Roland Root camp sure
- 1:21:48knows a lot about future events. Well, maybe, maybe, I don't
- 1:21:56know. They only know what we allow
- 1:21:58them to know. OK.
- 1:22:01All right, John, I'm just going to preface this, preface this.
- 1:22:07Preface. Preface this.
- 1:22:10Proface. The next two, next two, next
- 1:22:14ones are not going to be good for you.
- 1:22:16All right, we'll start with this one.
- 1:22:18Patrick Velner will retire after this year's Games, but not from
- 1:22:24competing. What?
- 1:22:27Oh, he's, he's not going to. Do you think he'll do the games
- 1:22:30this year? I think Patrick Velner will do
- 1:22:31the games this year and then he will not do the games ever.
- 1:22:35He will retire but still compete like other places.
- 1:22:40Like Willy's foundation? Possibly maybe I'm he might
- 1:22:45retire for good, but I'm predicting that and I'm not even
- 1:22:47say saying world fitness project.
- 1:22:49I I mean like he might still do Wadapalooza or.
- 1:22:52So you just mop up when all the with the World Fitness Project
- 1:22:55guys can't go and he just goes by himself.
- 1:22:57And maybe may all options are on the table.
- 1:23:00It takes 75,000 for himself, but he's.
- 1:23:01Not going to do the games like he's going to do the games this
- 1:23:04year and then he's retiring from the game season and then but
- 1:23:09he's going to do another competition somewhere.
- 1:23:11Maybe he does Rogue and then retires like like Rakowski did.
- 1:23:14You know, that's my prediction. That wasn't that bad.
- 1:23:21Was it? He didn't do the game so.
- 1:23:24No, I, I yeah, I know it's not right, but like it, it it was
- 1:23:28right except that part. John, I think you will be double
- 1:23:32wrong on this. He did.
- 1:23:35He's. Going to fully retire.
- 1:23:39Does it keep going? He's going to come back.
- 1:23:42Oh, he's coming back. Wow, wow.
- 1:23:45I don't. I do not know.
- 1:23:47Tyler, this isn't 2026 predictions.
- 1:23:49We'll save that. For the next show, save that for
- 1:23:51that, yeah. Crossfat John Young is like Sex
- 1:23:56Panther 60% of the time. All the time.
- 1:24:00Like I'm right every time. I'm right.
- 1:24:02I'm right 60% of the time. It's a Anchorman quote.
- 1:24:07I got it. OK.
- 1:24:08I was like, if you don't get that one.
- 1:24:11All right, here we go. And here's the second drawn
- 1:24:13second one. And then my other one is Emma
- 1:24:17Lawson is going to do the CrossFit Game season.
- 1:24:23Not only that, Emma Lawson is going to be top five at the 2025
- 1:24:28CrossFit Games. How about her podcast Top Five?
- 1:24:31Now it's a harder sell. I'm not willing to go out that
- 1:24:35far. Have you listened to it?
- 1:24:39I have. How is it?
- 1:24:41It's a podcast. It is a podcast.
- 1:24:47Yeah, that one was. And then swing a month and a
- 1:24:50half later, Emma Lawson cites back injury for not competing in
- 1:24:53their CrossFit Open. Yeah.
- 1:24:56That one, that one was a miss. Whoops.
- 1:24:59So boy. Had she competed, I stand by she
- 1:25:04would top five. Now we know you're not
- 1:25:07clairvoyant. Yeah, no, I mean, I could be
- 1:25:10wrong. It happens.
- 1:25:11It happens. Hey, Nostranamus was wrong
- 1:25:14sometimes, yeah. All right, Tyler, you're out.
- 1:25:20Go ahead, Tyler. This will be Dave Castro's last
- 1:25:23year. Boy, your predictions are very
- 1:25:27sad. Everything dies.
- 1:25:31That's my prediction. Tyler's trash tell me I'm wrong.
- 1:25:36Oh man, I want to let Sam. Is it on his own choosing or is
- 1:25:41it because of the sale insecure? We will never know the real the
- 1:25:46real reason, but. I think.
- 1:25:49Is it before or after the sale? After.
- 1:25:52Then it's not. After the games this year then.
- 1:25:54It's not his decision. I don't want it to happen, but
- 1:25:57it'll it'll happen still a chance.
- 1:26:01He's going to retire into the sunset, dude.
- 1:26:03He's not going to get fired at all.
- 1:26:05Last year. We're going to, we're going to
- 1:26:06go to Carson 26. Then he's going to be like, all
- 1:26:08right, I've done my 20. I'm out.
- 1:26:12Good point by semen by Simi. Well, Subby did say Dave went
- 1:26:16around and thanked everybody and got teary eyed.
- 1:26:20Well, next year's in Carson, he'll retire then he's going to
- 1:26:23do like a Kobe Bryant year where he's going to be like this.
- 1:26:25My last year. I'll save that for 2026
- 1:26:30predictions. I'm sorry.
- 1:26:31Please do all right, my last one here, see if this you guys were
- 1:26:37there to find out if I was right.
- 1:26:39This one's a little harder to quantify, but I'm going to say
- 1:26:42that the games will be like a smaller thing, but those who are
- 1:26:48there, it's they're more enthusiastic, so.
- 1:26:51Oh, they'll love the games again.
- 1:26:53So you think the games will be like 2014?
- 1:26:58Yeah, I think it'll, I think it'll be not as grand, but the
- 1:27:02people that are supporting the games will go there and have
- 1:27:06like it'll be a different feel. It'd be like us going to a crash
- 1:27:10or the North Cal Classic, something like.
- 1:27:12That no, I mean not like that small, but like.
- 1:27:14Not that small, but that type of.
- 1:27:16Yes, that's that's kind of a prediction of it.
- 1:27:19You freaking nailed. It you nailed it dead on the
- 1:27:21money spin. There you go.
- 1:27:23I think you take the entire the entire.
- 1:27:26I called Tia winning it and I called that one.
- 1:27:29So. 1.3 points. I got another one coming up.
- 1:27:36Berkshire will sell by the end of the year after the Games.
- 1:27:40Dude, you, I don't know how you were so vague and nailed it.
- 1:27:44That's how he would nailed it. Yeah, but like.
- 1:27:47No, it's more about just how, Just no.
- 1:27:51Yeah. No, no, I think, I think you
- 1:27:53nailed it on the head spin. How were you even able to like,
- 1:27:56I don't even know how that entered your brain, how you were
- 1:27:58able to formulate that thought. I think it was I, I sensed the
- 1:28:03divide and it was felt like people were going to war over
- 1:28:08the two camps. And when that happens, you get
- 1:28:11more enthusiastic, you get more fired up, and you want to defend
- 1:28:15what you believe in even more than you did before.
- 1:28:17And the people that don't believe won't be there.
- 1:28:20Right. And so it's you're, you're just
- 1:28:22left with the diehards and I think that's what you got.
- 1:28:25Yeah, if you're there, it's because you want to be here.
- 1:28:28You love where you're at. And yeah, yeah, great, great
- 1:28:34predictions, Tyler. They'll never let me live that
- 1:28:38down. What was your 2024 prediction?
- 1:28:42I was. Trolling everybody and said that
- 1:28:44Kamala was going to win. No, you're not trolling anybody,
- 1:28:47dude. That's what you believe.
- 1:28:49In Oh yeah, that's what. I mean, dude, you were all about
- 1:28:52the white dudes for Harrison the text, right?
- 1:28:55Don't lie. You were the only person.
- 1:28:57You were like, dude, I think Kamala is a great woman and is
- 1:29:00going to do a great job. You were trying to sell us on
- 1:29:03it. You texted me to the side.
- 1:29:05It was like trying to convince me to vote for Kamala.
- 1:29:07Yeah, Tim Walz was going to be the future, too.
- 1:29:09You called my wife? Well, that was real.
- 1:29:12The real selling point for me was Tim Walz.
- 1:29:14Carmel I was like on the fence about, but Tim Walz I was dead
- 1:29:17set on. There you go.
- 1:29:19Well, good luck to you. I hope he's the next electee in
- 1:29:22the Democratic. Too.
- 1:29:24Election. That'd be fun.
- 1:29:26I think he's got a great shot against Vance.
- 1:29:28I hope he does. I hope that's exactly what
- 1:29:31happens. And the last prediction, John,
- 1:29:36goes to you, John, last one. Last one can't do a 2025
- 1:29:43prediction show without mentioning a future CrossFit
- 1:29:47Games champion. So Austin Hatfield is is going
- 1:29:52to podium at the 2025 CrossFit Games.
- 1:29:56So close. Yeah, he probably should have,
- 1:29:59but yeah, I've lost a lot of faith in Austin.
- 1:30:05I feel like I was backtracking on that the second I said it,
- 1:30:08but I I I still thought he was going to though honestly all the
- 1:30:12way to the last event. How do we do we got 1/2?
- 1:30:19I mean, I think I was right on half of mine and then the half
- 1:30:22that I was wrong on, I was really close to.
- 1:30:25I was only at like a 100% wrong on one of them.
- 1:30:29We've only got 4 completely correct.
- 1:30:35I don't know if you watch the show but I feel like I was right
- 1:30:38on half of them and and wrong on half and the.
- 1:30:41I just love that he brought back unburdened by what it's.
- 1:30:44Been because we. Said that for a solid like 6
- 1:30:47months. Yeah, yeah.
- 1:30:50That's good, that's hard thing. So we still have to hold out
- 1:30:53with to find out if Berkshire sells with the holdout, see if
- 1:30:57Dave ever competes or ever programs again.
- 1:31:01If Pat truly retires or just takes up the scraps, we'll find
- 1:31:06out. So there you go.
- 1:31:08That's a good, good prediction. Bad at all?
- 1:31:10Yeah, I'm excited for 2026. I was happy I was wrong about
- 1:31:13the ones I was wrong about. That's right.
- 1:31:16Like you're OK with the ones you were wrong about?
- 1:31:18Oh, absolutely. Yeah, yeah, me too.
- 1:31:20There you go. Alright, we'll be right back
- 1:31:22with some blind rankings. How long are you going to listen
- 1:31:26to a society that tells you that there's an easy way?
- 1:31:30Listen to me. There is no quick fix.
- 1:31:35They're telling us it's a pill, it's an injection.
- 1:31:38It's this is that. No, it's hard work.
- 1:31:42Your future health is based on the decision you make today.
- 1:31:46You don't have to be the quickest, the strongest.
- 1:31:49You just need to take charge. Yes, optimal health can be a
- 1:31:53reality. Yes, it's yours, but you got to
- 1:31:56get up and you got to go get it. It's yours, but you got to put
- 1:31:59in the work. It's yours, but you got to
- 1:32:01grind. All it takes is you making a
- 1:32:06decision right now because practice makes permanent.
- 1:32:24It's yours. It's yours, take it.
- 1:32:28This is spin. This is where we go realize how
- 1:32:31bad you all are at CrossFit Analysis we'll find out how you
- 1:32:36guys do in 2026. May want to open it up to see
- 1:32:38some of you guys yeah predictions, predictions and see
- 1:32:41how bad you guys are at predicting Yeah feel.
- 1:32:43Free feel. Free.
- 1:32:45Feel free, I put out my report card, see if you can top it.
- 1:32:50Crossfat Crossfat Pat does not seem excited to be at Mesa.
- 1:32:55He's not excited to train. He doesn't like working out.
- 1:33:01Me neither. It shows Tyler all right.
- 1:33:06Viewer or not viewer. What viewer comments.
- 1:33:08No, not fewer comments. It is blind rankings time.
- 1:33:12Another non CrossFit one. I think you guys will like it,
- 1:33:14though it is toughest to kill. Oh.
- 1:33:21Son. Cool.
- 1:33:23CrossFit or not CrossFit? You'll find out on the first
- 1:33:27one. Or both.
- 1:33:28I think we should do it. Would be cool if there were
- 1:33:30both. I'll find out.
- 1:33:33Here we go. Toughest to kill ranking them
- 1:33:37blindly, Rambo. 1. Dude, you have to.
- 1:33:45You have to think about everybody that there's out
- 1:33:47there, OK? Dude he survived like 6 movies
- 1:33:50at this point. I understand that if he puts Uma
- 1:33:53Thurman up there, I'm going to pick Uma Thurman.
- 1:33:59Oh. Rainbow melatrix kiddo.
- 1:34:01Yeah, dude, yeah, dude. Rambo ain't done nothing
- 1:34:05compared to Bellatrix kiddo. It's on you right now.
- 1:34:09I don't know dude, I I will settle for a 2.
- 1:34:12And then what if what if he puts like Jason Voorhees, he survived
- 1:34:1810 movies. You don't know what he said.
- 1:34:20That's my point. He's already dead.
- 1:34:22He killed himself. He drowned.
- 1:34:25He never dies. He never dies.
- 1:34:28Freddy Krueger. He can name anything.
- 1:34:30He's not even. Real.
- 1:34:31Neither is Rambo. Rambo is definitely real.
- 1:34:37It's true. Beatrix Kiddo, man.
- 1:34:41Rambo is more real than Freddy Krueger.
- 1:34:43Bellatrix, I said. Bellatrix.
- 1:34:45He did Beatrix. Beatrix, sorry.
- 1:34:48Bellatrix, she's #1. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:34:51Yeah, even though she. Got you Have to keep in mind.
- 1:34:56If he's starting with Rambo he could do anybody like there's Is
- 1:35:01Rambo the hardest to kill out of all people in movies?
- 1:35:06No. I'm.
- 1:35:08Tempted to put three I'll I'll, I'll, I'll go 2 with you.
- 1:35:11I'll go 2 with you because we have to explore what he's doing.
- 1:35:15But you can't just rock with one from the What about John Wick?
- 1:35:20I like Rambo more than John Wick.
- 1:35:22John Wick does die at the end. Rambo ain't dead.
- 1:35:26But Dude B, he's got nothing on Beatrix.
- 1:35:30I'll go with two or three. Three let's.
- 1:35:32Go 3. John's arguing for me now.
- 1:35:37Let's see, let's. Go right 2.
- 1:35:38Let's get 2, the fastest one ever, and now you're like 03 is
- 1:35:42fine, sure. I understand because like what
- 1:35:45if like Doctor Strange is on here or?
- 1:35:47Something Thanos. Thanos died.
- 1:35:52Like if that came out, Doctor Strange was coming at Thanos.
- 1:35:55I don't know if they could kill Rambo dude, it's too sneaky.
- 1:35:58OK, All right. That was quite the adventure.
- 1:36:02Are we or, or is it three or two?
- 1:36:062. Forrest Gump.
- 1:36:09I mean, it'd be hard to kill Forrest Gump.
- 1:36:10He didn't even die from AIDS. That's fair.
- 1:36:14All right, here we go. Next one, the bride.
- 1:36:19That's Beatrix #1 who is better, Tyler?
- 1:36:26I just don't like how much she gets hurt.
- 1:36:28She got shot in the head by a shotgun.
- 1:36:32Woke. Up from a coma and then just
- 1:36:36killed maybe 2000 people. None of that happened to Rambo
- 1:36:40because he's not an idiot. I can't this is my number one.
- 1:36:49I don't I don't know. I she's literally like the most
- 1:36:52BA thing in all of movies. I can't put her at #1II.
- 1:36:55I just can't. You know what's?
- 1:36:57Funny, it's like, you know, they the freaking the world nowadays
- 1:37:00tries to push this like feminist movement down our throats and
- 1:37:04puts like a whole bunch of women that are BA.
- 1:37:06We didn't even think of her as a woman, she was just BA.
- 1:37:13So it was Jean Winchester. It ain't hard to survive that.
- 1:37:17No, no man, dude, there's no way she is #1.
- 1:37:22You know, watch Kill Bill if you do not know the bride chat.
- 1:37:26Both of them. Give it to John.
- 1:37:35Wanted to know that I think he's wrong.
- 1:37:40Oh God, I know a soap opera character could outlive all of
- 1:37:43them. Yeah.
- 1:37:45The young and the restless, it's still going.
- 1:37:50The. Entire series.
- 1:37:52Yeah. All right, here we go.
- 1:37:54You guys left 3-4 and five. This is terrible.
- 1:37:57Jason Bourne. Now we're good 3.
- 1:38:00Yeah, I would put him at 5:00. Really.
- 1:38:03Yeah. Why give me your reasoning?
- 1:38:06I don't know. He he just doesn't get into as
- 1:38:08many as as dangerous. I don't know, like there's less
- 1:38:11contact with Jason Bourne as opposed to these people.
- 1:38:18Because he wants it that way. Maybe, but like, I don't know,
- 1:38:23it's never as hot on him. He's not, he's not near as much
- 1:38:25of A warrior. I, I agree with you.
- 1:38:28Let's go. OK, four or five, four or five,
- 1:38:32and I'll let you decide. 4 'cause I, I, I bullied you in #1
- 1:38:35So you can you, you pick your, you pick, you pick this. 144.
- 1:38:40All right, there we go. Three or five left Chuck Norris.
- 1:38:47Three what? Chuck Norris is the most
- 1:38:50overrated thing in the world. Sean and I just have.
- 1:38:53Very different stances on this. Just one of them binge watch
- 1:38:56Walker, Texas. None of these people.
- 1:38:59All of. Them murder Chuck Norris.
- 1:39:01No, I get you. He's not the reference.
- 1:39:04I understand that. If you if we actually compared
- 1:39:08what they do, Chuck Norris is getting ran through.
- 1:39:12I will give John this one. He already dies.
- 1:39:17Bruce Lee. Yeah, I was getting ready to say
- 1:39:18Bruce Lee killed him, and pretty easily.
- 1:39:21So even though Chuck looked cool as fuck the whole time, all.
- 1:39:26Right. Chuck Norris doesn't even have
- 1:39:28ABS. It's a different time dude, it's
- 1:39:31a different time. You're way more cool if you can
- 1:39:34kill people and you don't have ABS.
- 1:39:35That's yeah. I, I, I, I won't deny.
- 1:39:38Yeah, that's fair. That's fair.
- 1:39:40I'm I'm really curious, where's Jason Bourne been?
- 1:39:42Has it? Wasn't he in the chat for a
- 1:39:43little bit? He's with Kay Lehman.
- 1:39:45No one knows. OK.
- 1:39:47And the last one, number three. Good list.
- 1:39:55Good. List.
- 1:39:56You guys got lucky. A good morning Killed.
- 1:39:59Bruce Lee. If you put Chuck Norris at 3 and
- 1:40:01Bruce Lee at 5:00, we're dead wrong.
- 1:40:06This is a good list. Then switch rainbow and the
- 1:40:08bride. Besides that, I'm all right with
- 1:40:09it. OK, but that if that's your only
- 1:40:12switch then? It's a pretty good list.
- 1:40:14It's a pretty good list. Yeah, Bruce Lee got killed by
- 1:40:19drugs. So for a girlfriend we don't
- 1:40:23really know what happened but. He broke his back and came.
- 1:40:26Back from it. Hey look, he's here.
- 1:40:30The real Kill Layman. That's pretty.
- 1:40:33Cool. This was a good this was I I
- 1:40:35enjoyed. I enjoyed this.
- 1:40:37Can you tell me, OK, if Rambo and Beatrix, they live, they're
- 1:40:43in one's in California and one's in New York.
- 1:40:47They have to find each other and kill each other.
- 1:40:50Who wins? Bruce, or I mean Rambo.
- 1:40:53I don't. I don't.
- 1:40:54Bruce wins I. Don't think so, man.
- 1:40:57Her. Reflexes are too fast.
- 1:40:59Hers is luck. Half the time she gets damaged,
- 1:41:02she's like damaged 99% and Rambo.
- 1:41:05Rambo isn't in Vietnam. He can't do anything, dude.
- 1:41:08He. Literally was in the Pacific
- 1:41:10Northwest the entire. Oregon or Vietnam, you put him
- 1:41:13in any other place, he's done. If you ever look at up the
- 1:41:18place, they shot that movie. It's absolutely gorgeous.
- 1:41:20It's in Oregon. No, it wasn't in Oregon.
- 1:41:22It was what is it? It's up north.
- 1:41:25It's in Canada. It's in northeast Canada.
- 1:41:30They film like all the movies there.
- 1:41:32If it's like Pacific Northwest, they film them there.
- 1:41:34Really. Yeah.
- 1:41:36Like Toronto? No North.
- 1:41:40Somebody tell me what it is. It's like heavily forested area
- 1:41:45British Columbia. None of it.
- 1:41:49This is BC. Oh, British Columbia isn't
- 1:41:51British Columbia? I thought that was Northwest.
- 1:41:53That's Northeast. OK.
- 1:41:58Are you? I don't have it on top of my
- 1:41:59head. Saint Robert.
- 1:42:01It's very BC. There we go.
- 1:42:07OK, there you go, blind rankings.
- 1:42:11And last one, just some yawn and I, it does seem quiet though.
- 1:42:17This this week, there's not been a whole lot of news.
- 1:42:20It's it's we're in the, we're in the lull in the back.
- 1:42:25There is there is some news though, that just came out this
- 1:42:28evening an hour before the show. Jeff Adler will not be competing
- 1:42:31in the World Fitness project. Mesa.
- 1:42:33He's out. So injury.
- 1:42:35So he's violating his contract. He is exercising his right to
- 1:42:40not compete via his contract. Health You have extremely good
- 1:42:44control of your eyebrows, Tyler. Yeah, I think it was from
- 1:42:47watching Basement, your movies. Let's see, Jeffrey Adler
- 1:42:51withdraws from Tour Stop 2 due to injury.
- 1:42:55What's his injury? Let's see his quote.
- 1:43:00Oh, it's he's not competing under the advisement of his
- 1:43:05medical team. His wife.
- 1:43:07Mean. Jeff Adler says I'm disappointed
- 1:43:11I won't be able to participate at WFP Tour Stop 2.
- 1:43:16I've been battling with an injury that comes and goes and
- 1:43:21doing everything I can to come back at 100%.
- 1:43:23For the time being. I need to respect my body and
- 1:43:26make sure it holds up for the next few years.
- 1:43:30I appreciate the support the WFP team provided me and look
- 1:43:34forward to Copenhagen, to which Mr. Wilmore at the WFP Director
- 1:43:40of Sport said. Obviously this is unfortunate
- 1:43:43news, but we fully support Jeff and his team's decision.
- 1:43:47Our athletes health and Wellness are a priority over competition.
- 1:43:50We look forward to having him back on the competition floor in
- 1:43:53Copenhagen in December. 6 flame emojis.
- 1:43:58No emojis in the press release. Adler will be replaced by Danny
- 1:44:02Macho Camacho. He is the next one up from the
- 1:44:07Challenge division, so he will now.
- 1:44:10He was the one that took last place in Indianapolis.
- 1:44:12Now he'll take a. Spot that spot.
- 1:44:17In the pro division in Mesa and he will now guarantee himself
- 1:44:21into Copenhagen. So Congrats to Danny.
- 1:44:24Camacho. Macho, macho Camacho.
- 1:44:27No relation to Freddie. Not not that I know of.
- 1:44:30Jeff Adler is currently 4th in the WFP standings with 460
- 1:44:34points. Nice.
- 1:44:38Let's see Challenger athlete Anthony Yim.
- 1:44:40Also other news, Challenger athlete Anthony Yim has also
- 1:44:44withdrawn to an injury. Damn.
- 1:44:46And he is being replaced by CJ Gerald.
- 1:44:50CJ. Yeah.
- 1:44:52CJ is usually in the comments, where you at?
- 1:44:55CJ was a local athlete training out of CrossFit Magnet nearby
- 1:44:58Phoenix, and then Jackson Terry had to weigh in the director of
- 1:45:04operations. Jeff is one of the top men's
- 1:45:07athletes in the world and he, as he showed at Indianapolis, a
- 1:45:10serious contender to the championship title of our
- 1:45:13inaugural season. He's one of the best because he
- 1:45:16knows what his body can do, can and cannot do.
- 1:45:20He'll be missed, but the men's field remain highly competitive
- 1:45:24and exciting to watch. Let's see if the backfill
- 1:45:27athletes in the pro and Challenger divisions will take
- 1:45:30advantage of their opportunity. Will they by default will due to
- 1:45:37the scoring? They will.
- 1:45:39They will. Yeah, congratulations for seeing
- 1:45:46the opportunity. I I hope.
- 1:45:48Jeff nothing but the best and I hope he gets healthy.
- 1:45:53If he explains why Jeff is didn't do well in at the games.
- 1:45:57Maybe or maybe not either or, but I hope we get the Jeff of
- 1:46:03old because I we will be missed until we have that.
- 1:46:07Odd that you go to the CrossFit Games.
- 1:46:11Probably was injured. I'm surprised that.
- 1:46:14Would have been an amazing troll if they had done that.
- 1:46:17Yeah, yeah, missed. Opportunity.
- 1:46:21Amazing that he went to the CrossFit Games.
- 1:46:23Let's suppose that he was injured but pulls out of the
- 1:46:27WFP. Guaranteed money versus non
- 1:46:29guaranteed. Just an interesting observation.
- 1:46:34I mean, I think it goes to what we talked about when it was
- 1:46:37saying that when we're talking about Tijuana Palooza next year,
- 1:46:41be in March, end of the open right before the World Fitness
- 1:46:44project, Like are these athletes going to start taking it as just
- 1:46:49train through it? If we all just train through it,
- 1:46:51we're all even. Then it's not.
- 1:46:52Adjust your training. This is why the WFP has to have
- 1:46:57mandatory contracts and non like not.
- 1:47:01Even if it's mandatory, it doesn't mean that you have to
- 1:47:04peek for it, doesn't mean you have to not do something two
- 1:47:06weeks before that or you saying exclusive contract.
- 1:47:08Exclusive contract. Sorry, thank you for fixing my
- 1:47:11wordage. Because if they're going to pick
- 1:47:13get injured, then they're not prioritizing your event.
- 1:47:17And therefore your event becomes like a it creates this, it
- 1:47:20creates a not interesting story by default.
- 1:47:24And so, yeah, they have to move to exclusive contracts which the
- 1:47:27athletes will not sign. So they're they're in a losing
- 1:47:31position. They they set up the game in a
- 1:47:33lose, lose. Already that and I think they
- 1:47:37real quickly realized that they can just get their 20 their
- 1:47:40their their next pro card and guarantee themselves next year
- 1:47:45by only doing one event and then doing well at finals.
- 1:47:47They know they're they know if they're well going to do well
- 1:47:50enough at finals, right? Like other knows, he's going to
- 1:47:52get enough points to be top 20 at the end of the day, right,
- 1:47:57right. He's going to be all the
- 1:47:58challengers who didn't do all of them and he has enough points
- 1:48:02over so many of them that it doesn't matter.
- 1:48:04So like he doesn't have to Hayley Adams hasn't done the
- 1:48:08first one. She can go in the next one, next
- 1:48:10one and do well in Copenhagen and she gets 19th place good.
- 1:48:14She's whatever she can do next year so.
- 1:48:18Contract verified. Hey, how long do you think the
- 1:48:21WFP will go for? Predictions.
- 1:48:25I, I think they're done in 20, I think they'll go 2026, I think
- 1:48:32they'll go in 2027 and then I think they're done.
- 1:48:35Business ventures usually go three years and then they
- 1:48:38reassess. I think 2027 their contracts go
- 1:48:45down. Well, Speaking of contracts, how
- 1:48:50do contracts work next? Year you get new ones.
- 1:48:55I know, but like, if I'm Austin Hatfield and I win, I guarantee
- 1:49:01Austin Hatfield's contract was not even close to Adler or
- 1:49:07Veldner Gee. Who was the crazy big one?
- 1:49:11We had heard? Tia.
- 1:49:12Danny. Danny.
- 1:49:16Yeah. Tia's was supposed to be
- 1:49:17ridiculous, but she didn't do it.
- 1:49:19I thought Tia's was. Supposed to be like 100.
- 1:49:22Yeah. I mean, everything I'd heard is
- 1:49:23ranged anywhere from, I mean low end.
- 1:49:25It was like 10. I think it was 30 though is what
- 1:49:27I've heard. Most 30's with the majority of.
- 1:49:30Them, but is it based off of merit or is it based off of more
- 1:49:34Instagram followers? More Instagram followers and
- 1:49:37that's the issue. You got Laura Horwath in there,
- 1:49:40man. You got Patrick Baldner like you
- 1:49:42got. You got people who aren't doing
- 1:49:44anything else. Which?
- 1:49:46Chandler Smith, Noah Olson, no offense to those guys.
- 1:49:51I mean, I why would you not do it if you're not, if you're them
- 1:49:53like you absolutely would, but. It's not yeah.
- 1:49:56Would you take the, would you take the minimum if you took
- 1:49:5820th and just get your 30,000 win this year?
- 1:50:01For the first year you you made a, you made 80,000 or 75,000.
- 1:50:05If you're those guys, yeah, because what else are you doing?
- 1:50:08Or Ty Jenkins. I bet you he doesn't get a raise
- 1:50:11and he should have. Well, he's like, he still has to
- 1:50:14get his card, but. That's my point.
- 1:50:16It's not merit. Sure, for the first year it
- 1:50:19makes sense because you want to attract the most people to your
- 1:50:21league. So if you compel them all to
- 1:50:23make posts for you, you'll get more attention past your one.
- 1:50:27It doesn't make any sense to do it based on Instagram followers
- 1:50:30because you would want to tell the athletes, hey, our event is
- 1:50:35going to be so compelling that you'll gain Instagram followers
- 1:50:37from it, CrossFit Games, the open, different stuff like that.
- 1:50:41And they they can't do that. So now it really seems like the
- 1:50:46the table flips and it's like the WFP should.
- 1:50:50So that's. What they built it as, and it's
- 1:50:55the other way around. I know for a fact that they
- 1:50:58posted CrossFit Games athletes during the CrossFit Games.
- 1:51:04You know, their little posts, they copy and paste it.
- 1:51:07And those athletes are required to like, collaborate and post
- 1:51:12them too. And I know, I know, I know of at
- 1:51:16least one of them. I don't know about everybody
- 1:51:17else, but at least one of them. Didn't.
- 1:51:20What they were like, I waited until the Games to collaborate
- 1:51:23with them until the game, until the Games was over because I
- 1:51:27didn't want that on my page during the CrossFit Games.
- 1:51:34And like, I think it's dirty of them to put an athlete in that
- 1:51:39position. It makes sense.
- 1:51:41You don't think it's dirty for sure.
- 1:51:43It's just the algorithm stance of that makes sense.
- 1:51:47Like that athlete taught, they're getting more page views.
- 1:51:50You want to, you want to utilize that if you can, but that
- 1:51:54doesn't make it right. It is.
- 1:51:55It's gross. But if they continue to do
- 1:51:58things like that, like it's not, you're not working for the
- 1:52:02athlete. Which is hilarious considering
- 1:52:05how hard they have to work to step around.
- 1:52:07Not referring to CrossFit Hiller's video that his
- 1:52:12destruction video of the WFP. It was a critique video.
- 1:52:15Dude and I like. Like call it what you will.
- 1:52:19Like I think Lucy Campbell said it like how you think Lucy
- 1:52:22Campbell got more from the CrossFit names or more from WFP
- 1:52:260 from WFP. What about OK, but Lucy like got
- 1:52:30second. That's easy to say.
- 1:52:32You're you're absolutely right. Let's take somebody less Monica
- 1:52:35Greer, an up and coming athlete. You think she got more from the
- 1:52:39games or more from WFP? She got more Amy Kringle in
- 1:52:42second. Right.
- 1:52:42I'm not talking about money. I'm talking about opportunity
- 1:52:47followers and money's. Money's a byproduct of that
- 1:52:51stuff. Everybody was talking about Amy
- 1:52:52Kringle the first few days of the Games and she took, she was
- 1:52:55on the podium. Was it She was like second I
- 1:52:57think like WFP? Second or oh oh oh.
- 1:53:00Yes, WFP and I don't even recall that.
- 1:53:04Right, that's what I mean. So anyway, Adler's out and we
- 1:53:09have no idea what. I mean, do you know who won for
- 1:53:11the women? Ariel, Alex.
- 1:53:15That's my point, bro, that's my point.
- 1:53:19Hey, who got third for the men? The only.
- 1:53:24Reason. We know Austin and Jeff is
- 1:53:25'cause I just wouldn't shut up about it.
- 1:53:27But like who? Who got third for the men?
- 1:53:29I know about, I know about Austin because you beat Jay.
- 1:53:32Jay, look. You all don't know?
- 1:53:34Hey, you want to know something funny?
- 1:53:36I don't know either and I'm supposed to know.
- 1:53:37Everything. That's my point.
- 1:53:41Somebody put in the comments. I'm dying to know who it was
- 1:53:44now. Let's see.
- 1:53:46It was James it. Was James.
- 1:53:48James. Congrats, James.
- 1:53:52As per usual, James gets no respect from anybody with what
- 1:53:56he does but. PC This is such a dumb comment
- 1:54:00dude. You're comparing a 19 year
- 1:54:02institution to a elite one year in competition.
- 1:54:05One year in competition? Dude, we are just calling apples
- 1:54:10apples and oranges oranges. And we're saying like, OK, cool,
- 1:54:15the games have been around 19 years.
- 1:54:16This is the field that you entered.
- 1:54:18This is the war zone that you entered.
- 1:54:20You can't reverse the fact that they have 19 years.
- 1:54:22You have to compete with it. Done.
- 1:54:26That's true. You know what I do remember?
- 1:54:28I remember Rogue. I don't remember WFP.
- 1:54:32And also I do not think Patrick and I feel like you have to
- 1:54:37respect this, OK? I do not think that you are
- 1:54:41allowed to have an opinion when you guys work for them in any
- 1:54:45kind of a capacity. Oh, I think you are.
- 1:54:48Well, an unbiased opinion. Yeah, I was going to say you can
- 1:54:52have opinions all. Day right?
- 1:54:53You're fair, that's fair. You could have an opinion for
- 1:54:55all you want, but you can't take your opinion seriously when you
- 1:55:00are with them in some capacity. And I what's hilarious is people
- 1:55:04think CrossFit pays us and they don't at all.
- 1:55:09We don't get nothing from CrossFit ever.
- 1:55:12We just love CrossFit, unlike other people.
- 1:55:17Oh dude, did you all watch between two boxes the other day?
- 1:55:23I don't, I know I know what you're referring to, but I hate,
- 1:55:29I hate, I hate how you just said it.
- 1:55:31I it gave me like the ick of how you just said it.
- 1:55:35I don't know what you're talking about.
- 1:55:36The box office show with the 2 girls.
- 1:55:38Oh, I did not watch that. Kate.
- 1:55:42And Mesa. Mesa give.
- 1:55:46Me a A brief yet comprehensive overview.
- 1:55:49Mesa Mesa. It's hard for me not to think of
- 1:55:51Jab Jab Binks when I think of her name.
- 1:55:55They were just going off about like how CrossFit has this
- 1:55:57branding issue and and they were they were talking about.
- 1:56:01Like, well, they don't like the New Britain, the new.
- 1:56:04They were talking about like over the past five years and how
- 1:56:08CrossFit needs to be more inclusive.
- 1:56:09And then they, they said that they don't really like this new
- 1:56:12campaign. And they were going into all
- 1:56:15these little bits about how CrossFit is sort of exclusive.
- 1:56:20And they didn't acknowledge like why we got to this place that
- 1:56:22we're at. And it was from when we were
- 1:56:25exclusive. And what we've been doing over
- 1:56:29the past five years up to this point was trying to be more
- 1:56:32inclusive. And people like to do shit
- 1:56:35that's cool and sexy, then they don't want to do shit that's
- 1:56:38inclusive. They just don't.
- 1:56:39But I just like watching their show.
- 1:56:43And I made this point in the thread the other night about
- 1:56:45like, I just think it's hilarious because we throw shots
- 1:56:48at CrossFit all the time. We are very plain Jane.
- 1:56:52Whenever they fuck up, we're like, yeah, this was a stupid
- 1:56:54move. And I just don't know how people
- 1:56:58don't see that. Like maybe I guess John's right.
- 1:57:00They think we're being paid by CrossFit, but we're not.
- 1:57:03Like we will say whatever the fuck we want.
- 1:57:05And how Tommy and John and all those guys were up Crossfit's
- 1:57:11ass during the worst time and need to say that the most to get
- 1:57:15them right back online. And then now that we've flipped
- 1:57:18and we're like, hey, they're actually doing some shit.
- 1:57:20That's right. Now those guys are on the other
- 1:57:23side and it's like, how do you think this is going to play out?
- 1:57:26Do you think? Do you think we're bought and
- 1:57:28paid for? You think we're really that
- 1:57:29shallow that we're just going to be like, we've been doing this
- 1:57:32so long, unpaid? Yeah, yeah, you saw it.
- 1:57:37We, we can't even make $1000 to do World fitness project.
- 1:57:43We actually lose money that doing that.
- 1:57:46No, I, yeah, I, I I still remember a conversation I had
- 1:57:49with Jada Koons at Tierrawadapalooza 23, I think it
- 1:57:55was. Yeah, Yeah.
- 1:57:58When he first joined. And he was asking what he
- 1:58:00thought CrossFit should do. And I told him it needs to go
- 1:58:03back to, like, The Dirty grimy. Like, you've got to just, you
- 1:58:10know, kind of be tough. Like, not everybody's going to
- 1:58:12want to do it. Your workout is our warm up.
- 1:58:14Yeah, get get to that, go back to that type of stuff that was
- 1:58:17happening 10 years ago. It took three years later, but
- 1:58:22hey, we're getting there, which is great.
- 1:58:25I. Are they on the other Sorry,
- 1:58:27John, Are they on the other side though?
- 1:58:29Yes, they're they will not explicitly say they're on
- 1:58:32anybody's side and they say they have faith in the CrossFit.
- 1:58:34But if you look down at if you look at their breakdown and
- 1:58:36analysis of of what they think about things, I would say they
- 1:58:40are on the other side. Their thought is being colored
- 1:58:43by people who don't have opinions like we do.
- 1:58:47And I understand like some of our chat can get a bit rowdy,
- 1:58:49but I think if you talk to us, you would you would get a
- 1:58:54compared, you get a comparative view of the other side and I
- 1:58:58think they're only listening to one side right now.
- 1:59:01And their side isn't honest with themselves.
- 1:59:05Their side is PC is all get out. Not no, no pun taken to your
- 1:59:11name Patrick. But their side doesn't have an
- 1:59:14opinion both they they don't allow themselves to have a real
- 1:59:19opinion. Everything is kumbaya.
- 1:59:22And if it's not, they don't talk about it or you're I don't not
- 1:59:28professional. Right.
- 1:59:31I thought CrossFit went the wrong direction when they tried
- 1:59:33to become inclusive because it was all about growth and they
- 1:59:37grew the wrong way trying to attract the wrong people.
- 1:59:40And don't get me wrong, it's great that grandma does
- 1:59:44CrossFit, but grandma doing CrossFit is not going to inspire
- 1:59:50an 18 year old to live a healthy life the rest of his life.
- 1:59:54Oh, they were saying something about sorry.
- 1:59:57Go ahead, John. Well, I you know what, what is
- 2:00:00the first thing you think of when you read this?
- 2:00:02She said. Mesa was so offended by movie
- 2:00:04line. Cry on the inside like a winner.
- 2:00:06She needs and provides safe spaces.
- 2:00:10The first thing that I thought of is named Tia Tumi or OH.
- 2:00:17Shit, that was so badass. I cannot work in an environment
- 2:00:22where you need to be safe. If that is the thought I cannot
- 2:00:28work like that is. That is.
- 2:00:29My immediate thought is if that is what you need, I cannot work
- 2:00:34in this environment. And I'm I'm all for it.
- 2:00:40I'm on Shane's side, like and and you, what's the bad part is
- 2:00:45you have to be careful what you say because people will try to
- 2:00:47cancel you. And we've nurtured everybody so
- 2:00:50freaking much. And you understand?
- 2:00:52That and you have to be like, I think I actually like the those
- 2:00:57girls, the box girls. Oh, I think I, I think they have
- 2:01:01really good potential. I wish they would dive into it a
- 2:01:05lot more like they're, but here's the they're not tainted
- 2:01:08yet. They're getting they're.
- 2:01:10Bearing yeah, I I understand have a real opinion and don't
- 2:01:17don't pretend like you have a real opinion and then BPC about
- 2:01:22it. Do not be afraid to actually
- 2:01:25upset people. Be strong and what you.
- 2:01:29Want they upset you? They don't upset me, I just said
- 2:01:32I like them. The.
- 2:01:34I'll be I'll be frank, I I've only listened to two two of the.
- 2:01:38Their sounds like I need to sounds like I need to listen to
- 2:01:40the. Between two boxes.
- 2:01:41Google it. Yeah, I I did watch 2 two of
- 2:01:44their podcasts straight through but but you.
- 2:01:49Can I've listened to more? I've listened to more.
- 2:01:51Of them. I've listened to more of Emma
- 2:01:52Lawson's podcast than I have of that.
- 2:01:55I haven't. I have not.
- 2:01:56They they have a, they could have a very interesting
- 2:02:02presentation. They have a good back and forth.
- 2:02:05I just think like they were, you know, they were trying to make
- 2:02:08this case, which I sort of understand that CrossFit
- 2:02:11presents intimidating and that's why it's for anyone, not
- 2:02:17everyone. But they were saying like, oh,
- 2:02:19if you're overweight or, you know, you have a disability or
- 2:02:22something, you might not want to go into a CrossFit gym.
- 2:02:24And they were saying that CrossFit doesn't market to that
- 2:02:26well enough. And I'm like, we literally have
- 2:02:28ads. What's the guy from what is it
- 2:02:31Bear Complex or Victory Grips? He like doesn't have an arm and
- 2:02:35he goes to the Games every year, the victory Grips athlete guy.
- 2:02:38Yeah. And it's like we we market to
- 2:02:40that all the time. And so when they made that
- 2:02:43argument, I was like, so you're heavily varying your opinion
- 2:02:47based on what you're being told or, or even if you see that ad,
- 2:02:51you're just discounting it immediately.
- 2:02:53And that's why I want to push on them like, hey, I think you're
- 2:02:57not absorbing everything through.
- 2:03:00I mean, look at, look at. What?
- 2:03:02Look at what the killing the fat man was.
- 2:03:05One of the best things that was put out years ago.
- 2:03:10Oh yeah, that was a big, there was big growth behind Killing
- 2:03:14the Fat Man and on the Jenny versus Mesa.
- 2:03:17Well, I think they, they, they want to be like that.
- 2:03:21Do you think they can't? They're too scared.
- 2:03:23They can't be Jenny. Don't you think it's odd that
- 2:03:26Jenny appears? Jenny's nuts.
- 2:03:29She's out there and just does anything.
- 2:03:30No, I just think she's. Not scared, you know, people
- 2:03:34want to eat up that gossip stuff.
- 2:03:36Like, you know, don't get me wrong, she really likes her some
- 2:03:39Danielle Brandon stuff, but but she's not scared.
- 2:03:44And I think that's what sets her apart and what people appreciate
- 2:03:46and what people want to watch or eat up.
- 2:03:50And I think they want their version of that and they will
- 2:03:55not get it if they are scared to say things.
- 2:03:59You don't think it's odd that Jenny appears and then
- 2:04:02miraculously on Brian's channel a few months later, 2 girls also
- 2:04:08appear? Could not say it better.
- 2:04:14Unburdened did yeah. JRW Tyler did you?
- 2:04:19Not what the WFP is doing now like 3 years ago.
- 2:04:21No, I've never said that there should be a league.
- 2:04:23I think it the a league is stupid.
- 2:04:25It makes no sense. I think a league for teams.
- 2:04:28Yeah, he's a big teams guy, that's where.
- 2:04:30That makes sense, Teams. A league for teams makes sense.
- 2:04:34A league for individuals makes no sense.
- 2:04:38And I, I've come around to that. I think Tyler's on to something
- 2:04:41if they ever, if they ever adopt it.
- 2:04:47Yes, yes, we did CrossFit. All right, all right, that's it.
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- 2:05:00You scan the QR code, go down the link below, click on that,
- 2:05:03you know, go back and watch Hiller's video.
- 2:05:08It's not titled. The insurance can't remember
- 2:05:10what it's titled. What was that?
- 2:05:12One point you in the right direction.
- 2:05:18Do you guys remember? What?
- 2:05:20What what the video is titled to the he had.
- 2:05:23Worst documentary ever. No, you are all wrong.
- 2:05:29Then he had Jen Pishko on there, which talks more about about
- 2:05:34that and then also the best grips out there, Fraud grips.
- 2:05:39So it's been say 15% dense updates.
- 2:05:43Caitlin and Mason come hang out with me for a week at my gym.
- 2:05:47It might make more sense to them.
- 2:05:49Hey, and if they do that, I'll make the trek out there.
- 2:05:52Jenny's like, Jenny's like 30 minutes from me.
- 2:05:55Conversion therapy. Maybe like 40 minutes but super
- 2:05:58down. You'll see it.
- 2:05:59All right guys. Thanks.
- 2:06:01We'll see you guys next week with a preview of.
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