Latest / Mocktail Minutes / Baylee and Dr. Reller - Navigating Health and Parenthood
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- 0:21Hello everyone, it's Bailey and I will officially be back next week to record an episode with Brianna.
- 0:29I hope you had fun hanging out with her, and I'm ready to get back to chatting with you.
- 0:34Now.
- 0:35This week we're gonna do something a little bit different.
- 0:37A couple weeks ago I had recorded a.
- 0:40Podcast for a different podcast with my aunt, who's actually a doctor in Clearwater, Florida.
- 0:47So we're gonna share that episode, so you get to hear from me and then Dr.
- 0:51Carrie Rower.
- 0:53Enjoy.
- 0:53Okay.
- 0:55All right.
- 0:56Hi everybody.
- 0:56Welcome back to the Get Healthy Tampa Bay podcast.
- 0:59I'm your host, Dr.
- 1:00Carrie Rower, and today we have Bailey Miller on the podcast today.
- 1:04Welcome.
- 1:06Thank you.
- 1:06I'm very excited to hop on today.
- 1:09I actually, it's been a while since our first episode We did.
- 1:12I was like a baby dietician.
- 1:14I feel like then.
- 1:16All grown up now.
- 1:17So you're a dietician and you're located in Missouri, but tell us about your or current roles, ral.
- 1:25Yes, so I'm a dietician.
- 1:26I've been a dietician.
- 1:27I was thinking about this before I got in.
- 1:29It'll be four years this summer, and so I have mainly been in more of the private practice.
- 1:37World, and I always think like doing things my own way.
- 1:40I did my dietetic internship in the hospital and realized I did not like the hospital setting.
- 1:46Probably didn't help that.
- 1:47I was there during COVID and I had lots of ICU rounds and everything.
- 1:52But right after school I went into my own business and I worked for another private practice.
- 1:59And then right now I am actually getting ready to launch my own course.
- 2:03So I'm finally doing it after a couple years.
- 2:05I'm very excited, but basically I'm taking everything that I have done with my one-on-one clients or my methods that I use them myself, and I've put it into this very comprehensive course.
- 2:16So I'm very excited to get that going.
- 2:19But yeah, I'm a weight loss dietician.
- 2:21Weight loss is my main area of expertise.
- 2:23I am licensed in Missouri and also Florida, and I do have a couple other licensure as well.
- 2:29I work all online, so I get to help a lot of different people.
- 2:33Nice.
- 2:33You should mention the parent company'cause I think that's how a lot of people can find you.
- 2:37Yes, so I work for Nourish and Nourish is really cool.
- 2:41It's basically telehealth for dieticians and through them you can get your sessions covered through your insurance.
- 2:48I would say probably.
- 2:51I need to re-look up their stats, but I think it's 95% of people get all their sessions covered and many of'em don't even have a limit, which is really cool.
- 2:59Like yeah.
- 3:00I think that's an amazing program that they have because we definitely have a shortage of the ability to refer to dieticians, and I feel like I would send everybody to a dietician.
- 3:09I do those similar things in our practice, but I think it's a great company that they've been able to offer that too.
- 3:15So you can see.
- 3:16Patients from anywhere or mm-hmm.
- 3:18Those few states and then follow them along.
- 3:20That's pretty cool.
- 3:20Yes.
- 3:21No, I have quite a few clients in Florida right now, which is fun.
- 3:25And because Florida some states you don't have to have a license in to practice medical nutrition therapy.
- 3:31Florida is one.
- 3:33So I do get a lot of Florida people, which is always cool.
- 3:36Well, I don't, I guess we dive in.
- 3:37We were gonna talk about everything that maybe a physician mom and dietician mom have about raising healthy kids in our environment, that we live in America here with the snack culture added, sugar sports, body talk, all these kind of things.
- 3:54So I thought, and you thought it might be fun to get together and talk about our own.
- 3:59Experiences with patients and our own and see how that, I don't know, goes forward, right?
- 4:04Yes, absolutely.
- 4:05I think there's so many ways this conversation could go.
- 4:10There is lots of topics around foods and movement in general too, being a dietician, but also a weight loss dietician on top of it.
- 4:18So many people have weight loss goals, but.
- 4:21I also feel like we're in an era for moms, especially where moms are very aware of what they're doing in front of their kids now.
- 4:29I mean, on TikTok, like people talk about like the almond moms.
- 4:32They're like, I don't wanna be an almond mom.
- 4:34So I feel like moms are just being more aware in general of what they're doing around their kids, which I think is cool.
- 4:39But I also think it's raised some challenges, like, how do I talk about food?
- 4:44How do I talk about, okay, we probably don't need a Pop-Tart for breakfast.
- 4:49Here's what we can do instead without being like, oh, that's bad for you.
- 4:53Yeah, it's definitely different and difficult is really what I wanted to say.
- 4:57And while we're talking about almonds, I have a lot of neurotic things that I've done in the past.
- 5:02And while it may seem neurotic to some, it's helps me reach my goals, right?
- 5:07I don't count my kids' almonds or anything like that, but I do leave a measuring cup in our, yeah, nuts.
- 5:13Area, because even my husband will say he is eating too many cashews and things like that.
- 5:19I'm like, that's why we can use a measuring cup.
- 5:21I guess he feels bad after eating too many.
- 5:23Right?
- 5:24It's the same thing.
- 5:24I'm sure a kid's portion of nuts is not nearly as much as an adult, so knowing what's gonna make you feel uncomfortable as important too.
- 5:32But I do remember counting out 10 almonds that I would eat with my yogurt in the morning at times, and then like crushing'em up and putting in there, so, mm-hmm.
- 5:41I don't know what an almond mom is, but I guess I could fall under that category, but I'm not really saying, I'm not counting my kids' almonds or anything like that.
- 5:48Yeah.
- 5:48It's all in how we present it.
- 5:51Yeah.
- 5:51If we come from an area, you can only have 10 almonds because you will gain weight if you eat more than 10.
- 5:57I'll like, yeah, that could be a little bit tricky for a kid to understand, but we do the same thing, like I, we have a.
- 6:04A lot of our pantry stuff in containers and I keep measuring cups and a lot of things mainly'cause I'm lazy and I don't wanna wash'em every time.
- 6:11But it does help just to be like, okay, chia seeds, we have a tablespoon in there.
- 6:17Mm-hmm.
- 6:17And so I think it's more coming from at an angle of awareness rather than like restriction is what's really helpful because nuts are a perfect example.
- 6:27I had a client where they're like, eh, I eat a handful, it's probably a quarter of a cup.
- 6:30And I was like.
- 6:32Let's just measure the out.
- 6:33Mm-hmm.
- 6:33Just to check, turns out he was a little, eating a little over a cup and I was like, that's a big difference.
- 6:40Yeah.
- 6:40Put your fat a lot higher so that can make it harder to lose weight.
- 6:43But I think a lot of it is just how are we talking about things and what's the intention behind it?
- 6:49I think the intention is a really important part when it comes to any type of healthy habit, whether it's the movement or the food, measuring things out.
- 6:57I walk, weigh out my protein.
- 6:59I don't do it every time.
- 7:01But like I will put it on a food scale to be like, am I eating enough?
- 7:04Mm-hmm.
- 7:04A lot of times I'm actually undereating on protein and so it's just, oh, okay.
- 7:08I need more protein.
- 7:09I wanna build muscle and not be.
- 7:12Starving after dinner.
- 7:13Eating enough protein helps.
- 7:14Back to the nut thing, it's like a super food, right?
- 7:17Mm-hmm.
- 7:17It has lots of protein, lots of fiber, and lots of healthy fat.
- 7:20But it is definitely something that if I don't have that there, I tend to overeat myself.
- 7:25And I think it's important to keep an eye on that.
- 7:27And it basically, awareness is a big thing too, right?
- 7:30I think that we see that a lot and sometimes while working with someone like yourself.
- 7:35You can find out to how to help the patient become aware of the situation, right?
- 7:40Like you said, they're having a handful of nuts.
- 7:42How much are you really having?
- 7:44So a little bit of awareness and learning that, okay, maybe just this once or for a little while, measure, and then maybe you don't need to do it.
- 7:50Mm-hmm.
- 7:50But then you wanna maybe come back to it if the habit slips, right?
- 7:54So I think that's a super important thing as well.
- 7:57I think getting in the habit of.
- 7:59Weighing your food because you're, you have certain goals is not a bad thing, right?
- 8:04Mm-hmm.
- 8:04You wanna weigh and measure because you're trying to meet protein goals.
- 8:07I will say that sometimes I weigh my lunch because I'm prepping it, but I don't weigh my dinner or I my protein at dinner or anything like that.
- 8:16It's more of a curiosity at this point.
- 8:18Yeah.
- 8:18And I know that if I don't eat enough protein, I'm like.
- 8:21Still hungry throughout the day and it makes me not as focused like seeing patients as well.
- 8:27So I will make sure I get in a pretty good amount of like ground Turkey, for example, is one of my go-to lunches for the office.
- 8:35So I think it's not a bad thing to weigh and measure.
- 8:38I think you really need to be aware, but I do think some people can take it to an extreme.
- 8:46And maybe it's an extremely,'cause there are some weightlifter and they have some goals and that's one thing.
- 8:51But it is, some people can take it to the opposite extreme where they are having like an unhealthy relationship with it as well.
- 8:57Yeah.
- 8:57And it almost takes away from your life.
- 9:00And that's where I think we can start to create a negative relationship with these habits.
- 9:05Because this is something I've realized in the past few months, is we.
- 9:11Clients tend to be resistant towards some habits because they feel like they're punishment.
- 9:15I have to go on a walk because I'm trying to lose weight.
- 9:19I have to eat fruits and vegetables to lose weight.
- 9:22I'm like, these are actually very normal things even after you lose the weight.
- 9:26You should do because metabolically, you're gonna be a lot healthier, you're gonna feel better, you're gonna have better energy, you're gonna have better sleep, your skin's gonna be better.
- 9:34All these different things come along with it where it's like we could take out the factor of weight loss and these are still very beneficial things.
- 9:42I think another thing like I teach about is.
- 9:45Starting to look at nutrition labels.
- 9:47I don't get very in the weeds about it because I think there's some stuff on there though, eh, not as pertinent, but like added sugars is another thing.
- 9:55Mm-hmm.
- 9:55I like people to be really aware of, because a lot of people don't know that we should actually be getting less than 25 grams of added sugar a day.
- 10:03Now.
- 10:04I was looking at someone's protein, vanilla the other day had a 14 grams of added sugar in it.
- 10:10So I'm like, okay, if we're starting our morning with that, plus we're adding a few chocolate chips on there, you're getting like 20 grams of just added sugar first thing in the morning.
- 10:20And so having that awareness of just to look at even that number as a starting point on a label can be helpful.
- 10:26And it's not that you're not allowed to have granola, but maybe we do less or we switch for a different brand.
- 10:32Just being aware of added sugars in general.
- 10:36'cause they add up really quickly and they're in foods that we don't even think about.
- 10:39Like spaghetti sauce.
- 10:40There's sugars in that, or some foods that were like, yeah, there's sugar in it, but like soda for example.
- 10:46I was looking at a soda bottle the other day.
- 10:4970 grams of added sugar.
- 10:51I was like, I would, which kind was that?
- 10:53I think it was a bottle.
- 10:54Yes.
- 10:54Yeah, I think it was a bottle of Mountain Dew, probably.
- 10:57Yeah.
- 10:57I think that's what it was.
- 10:58That's, that's an important comment, right?
- 11:00I just asked.
- 11:01Well, it was a bottle.
- 11:01'cause a can is like 35 grams typically knowing that it's twice the amount, so portions when you're looking at a nutrition label is high.
- 11:09Super important, not just the added sugar amount, but this is one thing where I'm not sure I'm doing the right things with my kids because I think I've taught them how to read labels and probably they're six, eight, and 11, so maybe we have done a little too much because they're looking for added sugar.
- 11:26Shay's counting his protein now I'm like, what are you doing?
- 11:29He doesn't, they don't really understand it, but they know that when we're in the grocery store and they wanna pick out a cereal, I turn it around and I'm looking at the added sugar and to see how much quantity they can get too.
- 11:41Because sometimes it's like quarter cup for all that amount, and that's not really gonna fill them up in any way.
- 11:47And I also look at the protein now because now they just try to shove protein and everything and make it healthy.
- 11:53So I'm not sure if I'm making the right move there with the kids knowing things about reading the label with added sugar.
- 11:59'cause they're a bit young and I don't want them to be afraid to eat it.
- 12:02And honestly, they're definitely not afraid it right now.
- 12:04They want more and more of it, but teaching my patients how to read it is really important too.
- 12:10Mm-hmm.
- 12:10One thing that.
- 12:12I use with patients is, gosh, what is this guy?
- 12:14The rater formula.
- 12:16It's sometimes really fun and you can do it like a calculation of how much sugar like teaspoons of sugar is in the item.
- 12:25You take the carbohydrates and subtract the fiber and then divide it by five or whatever, and that should be like the teaspoons of sugar in the product, which I find very interesting.
- 12:35'cause you mentioned Pop-Tart, you mentioned some protein that had added sugar, or was it oatmeal that had, it added sugar, A lot of the like.
- 12:42Granola is the fall.
- 12:42Yeah, pre-season.
- 12:43Pre-season.
- 12:44Pre flavored, flavored.
- 12:45Yeah.
- 12:45However you call it.
- 12:46Those oatmeals will have added sugars, but yeah, they're granola.
- 12:49Yeah.
- 12:50If you look at the grams on the label and just divide that by four, that's gonna give you the amount of teaspoons, which I like to tell people.
- 12:58'cause I think visually that helps.
- 12:59Mm-hmm.
- 12:59Where it's 20 grams of added sugar you like, I don't know.
- 13:02Is that a lot?
- 13:03So I'm like, divide that by four.
- 13:04So now you have five teaspoons.
- 13:06Would you sit there and eat five teaspoons of straight sugar?
- 13:09And they're like, that's a lot.
- 13:10I'm like.
- 13:10That's what this is.
- 13:12So here's another way to look at that, that I also begin with, right?
- 13:15Mm-hmm.
- 13:15How many teaspoons of sugar are in your blood?
- 13:18That's a good question.
- 13:19I don't know that one.
- 13:19Yeah, so like half Half a tea teaspoon.
- 13:23Okay.
- 13:23Yeah.
- 13:23So now you're telling me like you have half a teaspoon that your body has that whatever at normal amount, right?
- 13:30In all the liters or pints of blood that you have, and then you're adding in 15 teaspoons of sugar.
- 13:38How much.
- 13:39How hard does your pancreas have to work to clear that, right?
- 13:44Mm-hmm.
- 13:44It's scary, like you're overworking your organs just to have that pleasure of food or whatever.
- 13:50I don't, however you wanna think about it, but that's how hard it has to work to clear that.
- 13:54Otherwise it stays high.
- 13:57And you feel pretty terrible as you well know.
- 14:01And then eventually over, over time, many years, insulin resistance can develop and so on and so forth.
- 14:07But if you think about how hard it has to work, just to clear that sugar as pretty crazy.
- 14:11Yeah.
- 14:12Mm-hmm.
- 14:12Which is a stressor on the body.
- 14:13And so I talk a lot about stressors on the body.
- 14:16And when I mentioned stress, everyone thinks like work, finances, relationships.
- 14:21I'm like, okay, well like.
- 14:22Also what's going on inside of the body.
- 14:24Blood sugar fluctuations, undereating, mineral imbalances, those are also forms of stressors.
- 14:30So that's where like all this awareness of understanding all these pieces.
- 14:35And I think it can be overwhelming at first, especially when you're like new to the nutrition world, which is exactly why I break down step by step.
- 14:43And a lot of people when they come to me, they're like, eh, probably meet with her maybe four times.
- 14:48Honestly, I have a lot of people that meet with me for 20 plus times.
- 14:52Mm-hmm.
- 14:53Um, depends where you are.
- 14:54But going back to the kids too, I think it is beneficial for them to know what are you looking at on the label.
- 15:00And again, it's just.
- 15:02Explaining why you're doing it.
- 15:03Like, oh, if you had this much sugar at breakfast, you might have a little bit of headache at school.
- 15:07Your stomach might hurt a little bit, and then you're probably gonna be hungry again, but you're trying to learn at school.
- 15:12And some people do call me a weirdo before how I talk about things with my son.
- 15:17So my son is 20 months old.
- 15:19And so obviously he's not reading labels or anything, but there are times where he will go to the pantry and we'll bang on the door and like tries to get a snack.
- 15:27I'm like, oh buddy, we just had a snack.
- 15:29Do you want an apple?
- 15:30We can grab something on the out of the fridge or if it's like right before bedtime.
- 15:34If he is like hungry and we can tell, then yeah, I'm gonna give him some something to eat.
- 15:38But like I'll make him a yogurt bowl with some Greek yogurt or something like that.
- 15:42But if he's reaching for.
- 15:44I don't know, like let's say Cliff bars, for example.
- 15:47So my husband eats those.
- 15:49I'm like, we're gonna compromise.
- 15:50It's not the worst thing you do, but it does have a lot of added sugar in it.
- 15:54And I'm like, you're active during the day.
- 15:56Fine.
- 15:56But I'm like, Gannon doesn't really need those.
- 15:59And so if he grabs those, I'm like, okay, let's do half.
- 16:02Or if it's close to bedtime, I'm like, all right buddy, let's not do this right now.
- 16:06How about an applesauce instead?
- 16:08Or how about some yogurt or cottage cheese and just switching it up.
- 16:11But I think.
- 16:12Explaining things can help even at a young age.
- 16:16And not that he understands it, I'm sure at this point, but I think just being able to help create guidelines in all areas of life, guidelines, routines, helps them to, because especially at his age, he's not very regulated right now.
- 16:29He doesn't know how to quite understand his body.
- 16:33So I think it's part of our jobs as parents to be like.
- 16:37Okay.
- 16:38Maybe we just need a drink of water.
- 16:40Maybe we just need to settle down for bed and help them figure out what their body's trying to tell them too.
- 16:46That's what I was gonna say.
- 16:47He could be banging on the pantry door and he might just be thirsty too.
- 16:50Mm-hmm.
- 16:51You can always start there.
- 16:52And I usually tell patients too, right?
- 16:54If you're thinking you're hungry, you might actually be thirsty.
- 16:57Yes.
- 16:57So making sure you're getting in your water is really important as well.
- 17:00Yeah.
- 17:00And watching, because sometimes it's like habits where if he just.
- 17:03For cleaning up after the day, I put something in the pantry and he sees me do it.
- 17:07Then he is, oh yeah, there's some food in there.
- 17:09Mm-hmm.
- 17:09So then things like that, I'm like, he's probably not necessarily hungry.
- 17:13He just saw me open the pantry door and if we go read a book, like he's completely fine.
- 17:18So I think distraction works too, right?
- 17:20Yeah.
- 17:21Yes.
- 17:21Having those guidelines and being able to just help them regulate their bodies too.
- 17:26Distraction works for adults too, right?
- 17:28Mm-hmm.
- 17:28How many people do you talk to that boredom?
- 17:31Eat.
- 17:31Eat?
- 17:31'cause they're sad.
- 17:32It's, they're happy.
- 17:33There's a million reasons to be emotionally eating the stress that you mentioned too.
- 17:38That's another reason people just.
- 17:40Want to eat something.
- 17:41It gives comfort, right?
- 17:42It tastes good, makes you feel good for a little bit, and then maybe not afterwards, but I mean there's all these different things that why we eat and it's not necessarily for true hunger, right?
- 17:54But a distraction method to be.
- 17:56Going Right.
- 17:57Always gonna.
- 17:58The food or always gonna The pantry is definitely something to do.
- 18:01Sometimes I've had patients create like a box of other things that they can do besides eat food after dinner.
- 18:07Mm-hmm.
- 18:07Maybe it's knit.
- 18:08Read a book.
- 18:09Usually watching TV is not a great example'cause they're gonna be associating that with food or alcohol or popcorn or something like that.
- 18:16So we don't.
- 18:17Typically go to the tv, but all these other things that you could do, go clean out a drawer.
- 18:21Yeah, things like that.
- 18:22Just to distract you from realizing that, hey, I'm not truly physically hungry and my body doesn't need food.
- 18:29I'm satisfied, but for some reason I just want to boredom eat, right?
- 18:32Mm-hmm.
- 18:33And a lot of times I do have them check in on water.
- 18:35I'm like, if you're low on water for the day, and I know this used to be like a dieting trick of like drink water before you eat type of thing.
- 18:43But I'm like.
- 18:44These signals of thirst and hunger actually do get confused.
- 18:47And if you're like, man, my water has been a little bit low, just try and drink some water.
- 18:52Give yourself five to 10 minutes and then reevaluate if you're truly hungry.
- 18:57Put together.
- 18:57I always call'em like fridge snacks, like if you feel like the only thing you're hungry for is a bag of chips, I'm like, are you really hungry?
- 19:04Or if it's okay, we can't get these bag of chips out of our head.
- 19:07It's been like 10 minutes and we've tried to distract.
- 19:09We tried the water, we tried all these things.
- 19:12Okay, have a few chips.
- 19:13Have a beef stick, maybe have a cucumber with it, create some balance so that way it's actually filling too.
- 19:18But yeah, I do have people checking on water, but also movement if you're sitting for long periods of time or like at night and you're just sitting there.
- 19:27The TV is a perfect example because we associate snacking with watching tv, and I definitely noticed this too with people who run on like high stress because it's the end of the day.
- 19:38This is the one time they're sitting down and their brain's trying to power down.
- 19:42But if you're running on high stress, you have a very hard time powering your brain down.
- 19:47So we're like trying to do something else as we're watching tv.
- 19:50So I always think about movement and water, like checking on those pieces before just reaching for something.
- 19:56Especially if you're like, okay, I did eat breakfast, lunch, and dinner.
- 19:59I had a pretty balanced snack checking on the other angles.
- 20:03I think that late eating or eating after dinner thing, usually you're not physically hungry.
- 20:07One is habit two, it's Oh, it's the end of the day.
- 20:09I had such a hard day, I deserve.
- 20:11Mm-hmm.
- 20:12There's a lot of, I deserve this eating, which is, it's hard to come get around, I think.
- 20:17But reframing it and recognizing it, I think would be the first step.
- 20:21Mm-hmm.
- 20:22And sometimes, like you said, going ahead and if you are truly hungry, or even if you wanna give in, you decide to eat when you're not physically hungry, that's okay too.
- 20:30Perhaps maybe every evening isn't, you don't give in an every evening, or you're not giving into an ice cream bowl every evening.
- 20:37Like maybe one day you can substitute a healthier yogurt, and then the other day you realize, okay, I'm not hungry, I'm good.
- 20:43So there's a lot of things and ways to think about things rather than just jumping into the usual habit and things like that.
- 20:51Yeah, I think definitely just.
- 20:52Checking in on yourself too.
- 20:53Like I had someone, she's, I don't eat after eight, but a lot of times after running the kids around, like I don't eat dinner so I'm hungry at eight 30.
- 20:59I'm like, if you're not eating dinner and you're not home till eight 30, like I will go ahead and try to eat at least something.
- 21:05That's why you're hungry is'cause you skipped a meal.
- 21:08So yeah.
- 21:08I always call it like body intelligence of getting in tune with your body.
- 21:12We are very out of tune with our bodies as adults.
- 21:15I always give the example of energy, like it's like we're low on energy, we need more coffee like.
- 21:21You're not low on energy because you have a caffeine deficiency.
- 21:25You're low on energy because you didn't eat throughout the day, you didn't get enough sleep.
- 21:30Your stress is out the window.
- 21:32And as adults, we're very good about disassociating with stress rather than taking care of the actual problem.
- 21:39And so that's where a lot of habits come up too.
- 21:42Yeah, I think you're so right.
- 21:43We're definitely more as adults, out of tune with our bodies and knowing when we're full, which is why.
- 21:50Like never feeling full.
- 21:51And I think that sometimes these medications can be very helpful with that.
- 21:55But the kids, I guess you get so jealous sometimes.
- 21:57I'm like, oh, they're done eating.
- 21:59They left one bite.
- 22:00I'm like, how do you do that?
- 22:01They left one strawberry.
- 22:02Yes.
- 22:02They didn't eat the whole ice cream thing.
- 22:04I'm like, how?
- 22:05How do you suffer?
- 22:06It's crazy.
- 22:06Yeah.
- 22:06I can't do that.
- 22:07That's a huge problem for me.
- 22:09But it's amazing'cause they know that they're done eating.
- 22:11Mm-hmm.
- 22:12And I hope they never lose that.
- 22:13But it's very unlikely that they will.
- 22:15But um, it's the perfect example that we're.
- 22:18Born with those internal calorie counters are leptin and ghrelin hormones, and it's really interesting to watch kids with sweets.
- 22:24If Gannon's had a cupcake before, like he'll take a bite and he is eh, done, or he like will eat the icing.
- 22:31I don't even want the cupcake.
- 22:32So it's really interesting to watch kids, especially with sweets because yeah, they will often, like once they're done, a lot of times like.
- 22:38They might not even finish it and then they could care less.
- 22:41Like it's not this whole event of, oh my gosh, I had a cupcake.
- 22:45Should I leave it?
- 22:45Should I eat it?
- 22:46It's like they're just full.
- 22:47They're done.
- 22:48I wonder how their dopamine system works.
- 22:49Yeah.
- 22:49With the dopamine release, with the anti anticipation of the food, it's supposed to be a highest, right?
- 22:55Mm-hmm.
- 22:55But then when they're eating it, you know, it, it is not as exciting.
- 22:59Right?
- 22:59They probably realize, okay, it's all fun.
- 23:01I can stop eating it now.
- 23:02'cause like.
- 23:03We gave the kids we, this is our thing for Super Bowl.
- 23:06It's Super Bowl Sunday with the S-U-N-D-A-E and we let them make a Sunday this year.
- 23:12The sizes got outta control, but we let it happen because I knew there was no way they were gonna finish it.
- 23:18And sure enough they didn't.
- 23:19So thank God because it was pretty obscene.
- 23:21But like we, we let'em do that.
- 23:23I think it's fun.
- 23:24They look forward to it, right?
- 23:25But clearly they did not feel the need to finish the whole thing.
- 23:29Thank goodness.
- 23:30Mm-hmm.
- 23:31Did I have one?
- 23:31Yes.
- 23:32Did I make it like they, no.
- 23:34And like just plain ice cream in the Little Bowl was good enough for me.
- 23:38But I definitely finished mine, but I didn't make it as big.
- 23:40Mm-hmm.
- 23:42Yes.
- 23:42And I'm sure too when it comes to kids, like maybe a lot of the pressures off of'em, as adults, we're constantly surrounded with eat less, move more, donate this, eat this, donate that.
- 23:53Mm-hmm.
- 23:54And there's lots of messaging where it's like kids.
- 23:56Food can be pretty simple for'em as, oh, mom made this for dinner.
- 24:00Here's what we're going to eat.
- 24:01And that's that.
- 24:03Like they don't have to, I feel like there's just not.
- 24:06As much pressure around it where like they just going to eat and it's not a big deal.
- 24:10We also have this thought of like food scarcity, like adults, like where is my next like meal coming?
- 24:16Am I gonna, if I don't eat this whole meal, am I gonna make it to my dinner?
- 24:21Or I have this event, I better eat this whole meal.
- 24:24I don't wanna ever feel hungry.
- 24:25Like it's just a terrible feeling, right?
- 24:27Mm-hmm.
- 24:28When it's actually okay if you just sit with it for a little bit and realize what it feels like, but instead.
- 24:33You'll overeat at a prior thing'cause you don't know where your next meal is gonna be or just'cause you have busy or something like that.
- 24:39And I don't think kids think like that, maybe'cause they trust that their provider is gonna give them food at their next need.
- 24:46But yeah, I don't know.
- 24:47I feel like that's an interesting parallel to kids as well.
- 24:51And also how you're helping them form their relationship with food.
- 24:54Mm-hmm.
- 24:55For adults, like the scarcity often comes around sweets, where it's like they have their cheat day, or like Friday's the only day where they're allowing desserts, so then it feels like they have to go overboard on Friday because, well, they can't have another dessert for another week.
- 25:08Might as well go all in.
- 25:10And so I really work with my clients.
- 25:12Like I don't do cheat days with anyone's and I don't try and limit it till Thursday is your day.
- 25:18You can have a cookie type of thing like.
- 25:21When you take off that scarcity or that big restriction around foods, we're less likely to overeat it.
- 25:28I like think about chicken or eggs, like no one's scared to not finish their chicken or something.
- 25:34If they get full, they're done and it's like not a big deal.
- 25:37And a cake, like we'll often overeat because it's like the only time we can have it.
- 25:42Mm-hmm.
- 25:42Chicken, we're okay with having it every day.
- 25:44It's not a big deal.
- 25:45Cake.
- 25:46If we overeat because we don't know when it's gonna be there again, but like you can buy a birthday cake any day of the week.
- 25:51Like you can just buy a birthday cake.
- 25:52It doesn't have to be your birthday.
- 25:54So I think having those relationship with foods can also make your life a lot easier once you adjust it a little bit too.
- 26:02Yeah, you're really right about that.
- 26:03It's the same thing of a scarcity thing.
- 26:05When are you ever gonna allow yourself to have another thing?
- 26:07And that's just not the greatest mindset to be get into.
- 26:11I think it really, the restriction.
- 26:13Makes it a little bit harder.
- 26:15And I will say we try to, like, they can have a dessert day during a couple, a few days during the week.
- 26:21And I mean they're, it's pretty, it's works fine for us, but I do see, I don't know how they're seeing it.
- 26:27Right.
- 26:27I don't know if they're, oh my god, Tuesday gotta overeat.
- 26:29But I don't really see them like overeating it.
- 26:31I think it's the same thing.
- 26:32So hopefully we're not destroying my kids at that point, because I don't want them to have the feeling that you have to have a dessert after every meal, or that you can't have a dessert after any meal.
- 26:42Mm-hmm.
- 26:42And I think.
- 26:43They sometimes say it's like unfair and things like that, and I don't know if that's.
- 26:50I don't know.
- 26:51I don't know if we're doing the wrong thing or Right.
- 26:52But they're saying some friends at school may have candy or they have a brownie in their lunch every day.
- 26:57And I know the school doesn't allow candy at the lunch, so.
- 27:00Mm-hmm.
- 27:00A brownie must be okay.
- 27:02Or all those other packaged snacks that have the equivalent nutrition facts of candy are somehow okay.
- 27:08But they're not labeled as candy, so I don't know.
- 27:10They may have some friends that are having those things.
- 27:13And I feel obviously bad because sometimes people use food to spoil.
- 27:19People and make them feel loved and things like that.
- 27:21My try to.
- 27:23Bring it from a perspective of that we're also trying to keep you alive and healthy, and sometimes we can't have candy and things like that all of the time.
- 27:32It's hard.
- 27:33It's just, you gotta balance these things.
- 27:34I know GaN is not quite there yet, so you don't have those deep conversations of why do my friends get to eat this stuff, but not me all the time.
- 27:42But you'll get there and it's a challenge for sure.
- 27:45Yeah, and I think as a mom, we're always questioning, am I doing the right thing?
- 27:49Am I messing him up?
- 27:50Is this what we're supposed to be doing?
- 27:52I think.
- 27:53Being in the healthcare setting, sometimes it can pose an extra amount of pressure because we do see what happens when you overeat on sugar.
- 28:01Like we see it happen all the time.
- 28:03We don't want our kids to feel that way.
- 28:06And so I talk to my clients about these things is when they're changing their eating habits, oftentimes they're trying to change their kids' eating habits too.
- 28:13Mm-hmm.
- 28:14And I think it just comes down to those conversations too, where it's, oh, okay, they had a brownie.
- 28:18Okay, maybe let's.
- 28:19Make them on Wednesday night.
- 28:20We could try them out, but we just don't have'em every day.
- 28:24And that's okay.
- 28:25Just talking about, okay, this could make you feel, maybe your sleep might be off if we had'em every day and that.
- 28:31It's really interesting too because we have lots of neighbor kids that hang out and so they come over and like we'll have poppies or oli pops in their fridge and they think those drinks are so fun.
- 28:42So they love those.
- 28:43Or like we buy the applesauce pouches that have like the veggies and with them too, and they love those.
- 28:50And so it's interesting to see like how they get excited about different foods too, and being able to also create that balance where like, yeah, sometimes.
- 29:00We do have a brownie and that's okay.
- 29:01And sometimes we skip it that night.
- 29:04Yeah.
- 29:05Creating that balance of here's what we're gonna do more often and life's not fair sometimes.
- 29:11Yeah, I, it's so true.
- 29:12So I like to set up a healthy environment at home.
- 29:16Mm-hmm.
- 29:16Like I'm ready to get rid of all the Valentine's candy and.
- 29:19It's not something that we normally have a lot of in the house, I think out of sight, out of mind really?
- 29:24Yeah.
- 29:24Is really true.
- 29:25And I like to tell my own patients to set up their safe space, their home in that way too.
- 29:31And like you mentioned, your, some of your clients are also trying to get their kids to be healthier and that's so important.
- 29:36It needs to be done as a family.
- 29:37Mm-hmm.
- 29:37You're gonna have success if your family is on board.
- 29:40But I will give the example of that.
- 29:42When my kids would go to the neighbor's house, they had candy there and they, and it is, some of it is excitement of just being in a different place.
- 29:49Right?
- 29:50Yeah.
- 29:50So they like exploring their snacks and they definitely get into their candy and it's not my favorite thing.
- 29:56But No, I think it's interesting too because the other, the kids that live at the house are not that into it.
- 30:03Yep.
- 30:03But to my kids and my, is it a restriction?
- 30:06Which is why they always go for it.
- 30:08Or I'll just say, my heritage is, I think.
- 30:12We like sweets.
- 30:13Some people have a salty tooth, some like a sweet tooth.
- 30:15I blame my dad tooth.
- 30:17So maybe that's where my kids are getting it from.
- 30:19But it's hard'cause they're there Again, I feel like we aren't allowing that in the home or we obviously do for a little while.
- 30:25Mm-hmm.
- 30:26But try to get, and I'll say, I noticed the biggest thing is not.
- 30:30Making it like a big deal.
- 30:32Mm-hmm.
- 30:32And so like whether it's trying to get'em to eat broccoli or trying to not get'em to eat a bunch of Pop-Tarts sort of thing, because kids can also have that little like rebellious side of things where it's like, Ugh, she really wants me eat this broccoli.
- 30:46Not gonna do it.
- 30:48And, and this is what I tell a lot of parents, I'm like, if you're having trouble with your kids eating vegetables, put one piece of broccoli on there.
- 30:53Don't say anything about it.
- 30:55They might look at it, they might touch it, they might lick it.
- 30:57They probably won't eat it for the first few times, and that's okay.
- 31:00Eventually it's just gonna be normal.
- 31:02This same thing with sweets.
- 31:04If we're like constantly telling'em, oh, we shouldn't eat that, shouldn't eat that.
- 31:07And we just, okay, you're can have it this time.
- 31:09Okay, we're setting up those boundaries and we just take off.
- 31:13I always say like the weirdness around it.
- 31:15It becomes less of a rebellious side of thing, I think, too.
- 31:19Mm-hmm.
- 31:19And I always try and think what's happening most often.
- 31:22And if it's one time throughout a month.
- 31:25Okay.
- 31:26And I think mom's all just trying to do her best, figure it out along the way.
- 31:30And sometimes it's a lot of trial and error.
- 31:32But it is interesting.
- 31:33I have a client right now, she just had her 10th kid.
- 31:37She's got lots of kiddos.
- 31:39And so I'm working with her and her husband.
- 31:41So they've been really working to change what they're eating and then they're like, okay, we're gonna tackle this with the kids now.
- 31:47And the kids are actually adapting really well.
- 31:49And it's cool to see.
- 31:50And one question I asked because the pushback with quote unquote healthy eating is it's too expensive.
- 31:57And so I asked her, I was like.
- 31:58Has your grocery bill changed that much?
- 32:00He's like, honestly, it hasn't, because they're not eating 10 packs of fruit snacks in a day.
- 32:07We're not going through a bunch of snack food as often because they're just eating more whole foods.
- 32:12They're actually getting full.
- 32:14So I was like, you're a good testament.
- 32:15You have 12 people in your household and you haven't noticed a change in your grocery bill.
- 32:19So I think.
- 32:21Just having an open mind to change us too.
- 32:23That can be helpful.
- 32:24Yeah.
- 32:24I cannot imagine that grocery bill, but that is exactly the first thing that went to my mind.
- 32:29Finances of food is like a real thing too, but not everything has to be going into a Whole Foods or things like that.
- 32:36There's definitely mm-hmm.
- 32:37Ways to eat healthy.
- 32:38And I know there's obviously the big push to.
- 32:41Eat organic and things like that, and it is more expensive, but I think just doing the best you can and trying to eat whole Foods, whether wherever they're coming from is probably the best first step for sure.
- 32:52Yeah.
- 32:53Something else you mentioned earlier was routine, and I think that's super important for kids.
- 32:57Mm-hmm.
- 32:57Obviously sleep, just setting expectations, especially when they're younger, they really, they thrive on routine, right?
- 33:04They wanna know where you're going when, and it wants to be predictable, right?
- 33:08So I think that's super important.
- 33:10And then obviously the biggest thing around routine is getting enough sleep.
- 33:13And if think of you make.
- 33:16You make bad decisions when you don't get enough sleep as an adult, right?
- 33:20You're probably gonna eat something that maybe you wouldn't have, or maybe the quantity has changed.
- 33:25Sometimes alcohol is involved in all these things, so sleep is important.
- 33:30From that respect, it's important from, you already mentioned, cortisol and stress and everything like that.
- 33:35It's important.
- 33:35With that, it just makes you feel better, and we spend most of our time sleeping.
- 33:39It's so important.
- 33:41And sleep too.
- 33:42Like you're more insulin resistant the next day if you don't get enough sleep.
- 33:46Mm-hmm.
- 33:46So then you're not gonna tolerate the carbs better.
- 33:48And so it's your prefrontal cortex that's most affected with lack of sleep, which is where like your decision making happens.
- 33:55Mm-hmm.
- 33:56So then if you're eating more carbs.
- 33:58You're also not tolerating the carbs.
- 34:00Well, now we're on a blood sugar roller coaster.
- 34:02This is why you're having cravings all day long.
- 34:05This is why you can't think straight.
- 34:07And yeah, the routines are important not only for the kids, but adults.
- 34:11We really need routines, and I fully believe that's why a lot of times many people struggle on the weekends and then the summer because the routine's different.
- 34:20Absolutely.
- 34:20Or non-existent.
- 34:21Yeah, I think it's hard for everybody, right?
- 34:23Because mm-hmm.
- 34:23In the weekends you're always trying to go out, stay up late or whatever.
- 34:26I hate doing that'cause I'm like guaranteed to get a migraine if my sleep is messed up.
- 34:32But you are supposed to go to the bed at the same time, get up at the same time, even on the weekend.
- 34:38And I don't like that whole 80 20 cheat day stuff either.
- 34:41So I think sticking to the main routine that you have is the best that you can going forward from that, but.
- 34:49I just, it's hard to tell people to keep the same sleep schedule, especially on the weekends.
- 34:54I find that challenging, especially like when they're watching sports or something like the Super Bowl clearly throws everybody off.
- 35:00Yeah, yeah.
- 35:00I really try and keep my sleep schedule consistent within an hour, I would say.
- 35:05Yeah, there's definitely those off weekends, but I was talking about the Super Bowl to a client and it was funny.
- 35:10I was like, super Bowl snacks I think are superior because everyone focuses on like the protein and then like.
- 35:17Veggies.
- 35:18I feel like there's more of where it's like, not that the Super Bowl's a holiday, but it's like a gathering where there's lots of food a lot of times, and it's like other holidays, like it's carbohydrate overload.
- 35:30Mm-hmm.
- 35:30Which is why we don't feel so good.
- 35:32And so we were talking about just, yeah.
- 35:33I.
- 35:34I think Super Bowl snacks are superior.
- 35:36The buffalo chicken dip, that's another dips.
- 35:38Yeah.
- 35:38Yeah.
- 35:39That's an interesting thing you mentioned is it's not a holiday, right?
- 35:42Because we find excuses in life and it's fine.
- 35:45'cause that's, we're social beings, right?
- 35:46Mm-hmm.
- 35:47To have everything be a celebration, everything require food and entertainment.
- 35:51And that's a very hard thing to navigate for someone who's on like a weight loss journey, right?
- 35:56Mm-hmm.
- 35:56You wanna still go to parties, you wanna go to gatherings, you wanna go to holidays.
- 36:00And still do all these things.
- 36:01And I think the best thing you can do is really planning ahead and you listening to your body once again.
- 36:08And you mentioned it already, protein.
- 36:10So luckily Super Bowl would have a good protein snack.
- 36:13But I mean, it's, we make excuses for everything to be a party and it's hard to navigate.
- 36:19Yeah.
- 36:19And we often make things harder than what they need to be.
- 36:23Mm-hmm.
- 36:23And so when it comes to holidays or just any type of gathering, birthday party, whatever it is.
- 36:28I always tell people, just make it normal.
- 36:30It doesn't have to be a weird thing of we have to eat two bowls of buffalo chicken dip.
- 36:35Make your plate as you would if you were eating dinner at home.
- 36:38Or like anytime we have events, like I always make sure we bring something that's higher in protein or higher in fiber.
- 36:44Usually I focus on the fiber'cause that's what falls behind in most areas.
- 36:47So I'll bring something with veggies, but the more you can just normalize it and not feel like you have to go into like party mode and treat your body like a dumpster fire.
- 36:57The easier life is gonna be too, and you're not feeling like you're on and off all the time.
- 37:02My go-to family gathering food sometimes is just the bag of green beans, and then I'll eat it either microwave or oven and salt, pepper, olive oil, and it's delicious, but sometimes it's just that, but I'm always the one bringing the greens and things like that.
- 37:18Mm-hmm.
- 37:18To the party and sometimes the kids will make something I like if they're gonna have a dessert, it's fun to have'em make it together.
- 37:25Yeah.
- 37:25So that's fun.
- 37:26Keeping it as an experience, not just the food eating thing.
- 37:29And you mentioned something also like making a plate, right?
- 37:32If it's a good idea that they can still make a plate, if it's including charcuterie,'cause that's all the protein is there.
- 37:38Mm-hmm.
- 37:38That's fine.
- 37:39The veggie tray, there you go.
- 37:40Maybe a piece of fruit, but something to make the plate like somewhat of a meal with all the ingredients or macronutrients that we were.
- 37:48I think that's good.
- 37:50Anything else that you wanna go over and talk about today?
- 37:53I would say overall it's just thinking about taking the pressure off and the normalizing.
- 38:00I think I, I have a podcast as well and we often come to the theme of, don't make things weird.
- 38:06Like we are very good about making things weird and bigger than what they need to be.
- 38:09It's like, mm-hmm.
- 38:10Eating chicken's not a big deal.
- 38:12Eating some green bait's, not a big deal.
- 38:14We just make it feel weird because.
- 38:16How we think about it or how we associate it with our bodies or previous dieting attempts maybe.
- 38:23So I think the more you can normalize and become in tune with your body and understand what is it actually trying to tell me?
- 38:31Bodies are pretty smart.
- 38:33They're always giving you messages and learning how to interpret them.
- 38:37That is gonna make you feel better in the long run.
- 38:39And I think with our theme today with like moms and healthcare is.
- 38:44Do the best you can, but also be okay with setting boundaries with your kids.
- 38:49Not everyone's gonna agree with that.
- 38:51Who cares?
- 38:52Is my opinion.
- 38:54Like not everyone's gonna agree with how I parent in any way, and that is okay.
- 38:58We all have different lives.
- 39:00We've grown up differently.
- 39:01We've learned different things.
- 39:02We know different things.
- 39:04And.
- 39:05So I think just doing your best and being able to set those boundaries.
- 39:08What works for you and your family?
- 39:10Learn more.
- 39:11I think it's never a bad thing to see, okay, what do I need to adjust?
- 39:15If I, if you were listening, you're like, oh, I didn't know that about added sugars.
- 39:19Start looking at added sugars.
- 39:20There was a yogurt when Gannon first started eating foods that I looked at, and it was like marketed towards babies and I forget what brand it was, but I looked at it and it had 12 grams of added sugar.
- 39:32I was like.
- 39:33Absolutely not.
- 39:35Oh my God, I could beat you.
- 39:36I think we found one at one point, it was actually marketed as a Hispanic product.
- 39:41Mm-hmm.
- 39:42Which is not great because I think that sometimes it's one of the vulnerable populations and it had 32 grams of sugar in a yogurt container.
- 39:51Yeah.
- 39:51And I don't remember the brand.
- 39:52So you definitely gotta read labels, right?
- 39:54Yes.
- 39:54Yeah.
- 39:55It's just, I think in general, like start somewhere.
- 39:58Don't feel like you have to change your family's entire life tomorrow.
- 40:02Just take little steps if it's, oh, okay.
- 40:05We've been doing granola bars for breakfast and I looked at it.
- 40:08The sugars were high.
- 40:09It's not a lot of protein.
- 40:10Mm-hmm.
- 40:11Okay.
- 40:11How about tomorrow we try a banana and peanut butter.
- 40:13Let's see how they like it.
- 40:14Experiment.
- 40:16It might not go well the first time, but that's okay.
- 40:19Just try different things out one step at a time.
- 40:22Start with, okay, maybe we need more movement.
- 40:24Let's take the family on a walk.
- 40:26Walk for five minutes, even five minutes is better than no minutes.
- 40:29Mm-hmm.
- 40:29Just taking these little steps at a time, I think can be helpful.
- 40:34And every step you do take and you follow through, you're actually building confidence within yourself to be able to do these things rather than feeling like I'm a failure.
- 40:43I don't know what to do, I can't commit to anything.
- 40:46Start building that trust within yourself too.
- 40:47Mm-hmm.
- 40:48That's super important.
- 40:49Obviously sometimes we don't trust ourselves and we should, right?
- 40:53Yeah.
- 40:53I think I like, I usually think pick one thing, get that down, go to the next thing, right?
- 41:00Mm-hmm.
- 41:00There's something small that you could change.
- 41:02In the beginning, right.
- 41:03One thing at a time and then move on to the next thing.
- 41:06So I like to pick apart coffee.
- 41:08'cause usually people are putting a lot of sugar or something in Oh yeah, yeah.
- 41:12Sometimes it's just that or so because I, they have, they come in and their hemoglobin A1C is high.
- 41:17I'm like, why do you have pre-diabetes?
- 41:19And it's like a person who has normal weights and I'm like, something you're doing every single day.
- 41:25Is affecting this.
- 41:26Let's see.
- 41:26Let's pick it apart and figure out what it's, mm-hmm.
- 41:29And sometimes it comes down to coffee.
- 41:30Yeah.
- 41:31But anyway, I digress.
- 41:33That was an excellent discussion on all things that we may or may not be doing right or wrong with our kids, and hopefully they're doing all right.
- 41:41Mine are still, they got a long way to go.
- 41:43Stuck with me.
- 41:44Yes.
- 41:45Until they're outta this house, so hopefully I don't mess'em up too much.
- 41:48But you have an even longer way to go.
- 41:50Yes.
- 41:51So you mentioned your podcast.
- 41:52Why don't you tell us what that is, and then where can people find you if they wanna work with you?
- 41:57Mm-hmm.
- 41:58Yes.
- 41:58My podcast is called Mocktail Minutes, like cocktails, but like cocktail hour.
- 42:03But we're doing mocktail minutes, so we tend to do shorter episodes and we pick different topics each week of here's what we've been asked about.
- 42:11Here's common conversations that we've had, different things like that.
- 42:15So you can find me on there, or I am also on Instagram, TikTok and Facebook under Bailey, the dietician, all one word, B-A-Y-L-E-E.
- 42:25So you can find me on a bunch of different social medias, and that's where you can usually keep up with me.
- 42:31Awesome.
- 42:32Thank you so much for being a guest.
- 42:34You're obviously welcome back anytime.
- 42:37Absolutely.
- 42:37This was fun.
- 42:38We finally could nail down a date.
- 42:40Yes, and everybody stay tuned for next week's episode and get healthy Tampa Bay.
- 42:44Yes.
- 42:44Bye everyone.
- 42:46Bye.