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Ep 26: Manifesting Your Best Life in Your 40s & Beyond with Sarah Centrella · Clearly Hormonal

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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Welcome to Reset Recharge, the podcast where women's health takes center stage.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm your host, Dr.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Komal Patil-Sisodia, a triple board certified endocrinologist and women's health expert.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: This show is all about empowering you with the knowledge to understand your metabolic health, navigate hormonal changes, and feel confident in the conversations you're having with your healthcare provider.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: As a physician, my goal is to educate on this podcast.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Now let's dive in and help you reset, recharge, and take control of your health.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Hi everyone.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Welcome back to Reset Recharge.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm your host, Dr.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Komal Patil-Sisodia, and I am excited to introduce today's guest, Sarah Centrella, who is a bestselling author, master Life and Executive Coach and creator of the Centrella Method, she helps people in teams worldwide transform their mindset and manifest their goals, and I think that this is such an important topic for women who are in midlife.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because we are going through all of these changes and evolutions and sometimes in addition to figuring out, what exactly is going on physiologically with our bodies, we have to do a lot of work on our mindset and acceptance to try and shift that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: She is also the founder of VIVIAMO, the host of the Sarah Centrella Show, and her work has been featured in major outlets like Good Morning America, in The New York Times.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So welcome Sarah.
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Sarah Centrella: Thanks.
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Sarah Centrella: I'm so excited to be here.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: For our listeners, I was lucky to meet Sarah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I had no idea what a badass she was when we were at a mutual friend's wedding and we were just sitting poolside and talking about life, and we just kind of really gelled and connected.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And then I got home from Mexico and I was like, looking at your social, and I was like.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Oh my God.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I had no idea who I was sitting next to the whole time I was there so I'm really excited to have you here today.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Could you tell the listeners a little bit about what you do and how you got to this point in your journey?
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: As a life coach, first and foremost, Komal the feeling is so mutual.
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Sarah Centrella: I think like we instantly had a connection.
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Sarah Centrella: I had just gone through.
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Sarah Centrella: A horrible tragedy the day before.
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Sarah Centrella: I just lost my brother, shockingly, and it was, you have this beautiful presence just that you exude that is warm and is open and I was going through all this stuff and you know, you're not trying to have that be a thing at a this great destination wedding.
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Sarah Centrella: But your warmth and your just spirit allowed me to connect with you immediately.
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Sarah Centrella: Open up to you, share that with you.
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Sarah Centrella: You're the only person that I told for about a week of what had happened.
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Sarah Centrella: So I'm just, I'm honored to like.
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Sarah Centrella: Be here to know you to be building this, friendship that we have.
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Sarah Centrella: Thanks for having me here.
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Sarah Centrella: I can't like this conversation.
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Sarah Centrella: I'm gonna try really hard to keep you to an hour because
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I know, right?
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Sarah Centrella: So all day.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: So my gosh, how I started life coaching, it's very, very crazy story because never in a million years did I ever think that's what I was going to do.
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Sarah Centrella: My.
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Sarah Centrella: Pivotal story started in 2008.
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Sarah Centrella: At the time I was married to my high school sweetheart, we had three little babies.
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Sarah Centrella: We had twins that were a year and a half.
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Sarah Centrella: Our son was five.
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Sarah Centrella: And one day he came home from work and went in the shower.
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Sarah Centrella: And I had been watching the Oprah show that day, and they were talking about cheating spouses and how to know if your spouse is cheating.
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Sarah Centrella: And I was like, I don't need that shit.
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Sarah Centrella: Like, I can mute it, I can watch Rosie instead or something, yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: And then all of a sudden he's in the shower and I'm like, but I haven't seen his phone in a really long time.
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Sarah Centrella: And that just wasn't us.
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Sarah Centrella: Right.
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Sarah Centrella: That wasn't our dynamic.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: And it was like the second I had that thought, I knew everything, like start to finish.
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Sarah Centrella: It just, it's like a little mental reader board.
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Sarah Centrella: It was like, here's what's going on, here's who it's with, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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Sarah Centrella: And anyway, I go in and find his phone and sure enough there's.
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Sarah Centrella: The first message, he hadn't even seen it yet was from his mistress.
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Sarah Centrella: And I was like, I can't wait till you're finally free.
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Sarah Centrella: All mine, no more sharing.
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Sarah Centrella: And I was like, kids, I'm gonna put a movie on real quick in the back of the house.
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Sarah Centrella: And I went in, turned the water off in the shower, so like, get the fuck out.
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Sarah Centrella: And that was.
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Sarah Centrella: The end, it just blew up Everything I'd known about my life.
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Sarah Centrella: We'd been together since we were 16.
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Sarah Centrella: And it also came at the worst possible time.
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Sarah Centrella: This was right at the bubble.
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Sarah Centrella: So we had lost our house the year before.
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Sarah Centrella: I've been a stay at home mom.
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Sarah Centrella: We were just barely scraping by as it was.
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Sarah Centrella: And then that night as kind of everything just was hitting me, I started realizing like, oh my God, I don't.
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Sarah Centrella: Have a bank account anymore in my own name, like the car is in his name.
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Sarah Centrella: Like how did it get to this?
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Sarah Centrella: Right, and I just, I remember like laying on the floor just sobbing, thinking like, I can't do this.
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Sarah Centrella: This is back before social media, so I didn't know one person who'd been divorced.
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Sarah Centrella: I know that sounds crazy, but.
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Sarah Centrella: My friends were at the stages where they were just starting to get married, you know, so like, I didn't know a single person who'd been through divorce, no one who had ever publicly been through infidelity like this.
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Sarah Centrella: So I truly felt like I was the first person on the planet to ever go through something like this.
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Sarah Centrella: And I just had this overwhelming sense of, I can't, I can't, I can't do it.
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Sarah Centrella: And in that like really, really dark space, there was this alternate, whatever you wanna say, intuition, voice guide, whatever.
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Sarah Centrella: And it was just like, well.
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Sarah Centrella: What if you can, you know, and that was kind of the start of everything for me, because I think I just needed that lifeline so bad that I clung to it.
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Sarah Centrella: And I was like, well, if I could figure this out, if I could pick myself back up, what would I do?
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Sarah Centrella: And I started just, once I realized I had to kind of rebuild a life from scratch, I was like, well, why don't I rebuild a better one?
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Sarah Centrella: You know, like, and so I just started like fantasize dreaming.
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Sarah Centrella: I was like, well, if I had a better life, what would it look like?
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Sarah Centrella: And I just started flushing it out in all these ways I'd be successful.
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Sarah Centrella: Okay, well what does success look like?
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Sarah Centrella: That woman, who is she?
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Sarah Centrella: Um, if I'm a good single mom, figuring that all out.
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Sarah Centrella: What does she look like?
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Sarah Centrella: What does she do?
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Sarah Centrella: How does she show up?
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Sarah Centrella: And then I kind of just went through all the categories.
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Sarah Centrella: And when I finally, finally got a job, I.
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Sarah Centrella: Decided to put pictures that represented all that stuff that I was kind of daydreaming about in my cube, and they made me happy.
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Sarah Centrella: And I looked at'em for about a year and then it just all started like happening.
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Sarah Centrella: Like literally those pictures and that like mental movie that I was creating in my head just started becoming my real life.
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Sarah Centrella: And it was the craziest trippiest thing.
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Sarah Centrella: And I just thought, how is this happening?
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Sarah Centrella: What did I do?
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Sarah Centrella: How can I make it happen more and more and more?
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Sarah Centrella: Because this is pretty great.
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Sarah Centrella: It's a whole lot better than before.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: And that just started everything.
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Sarah Centrella: And it started with a blog with me just getting on, just sharing that journey and it's turned into four books and now a full-time career.
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Sarah Centrella: And I've been doing it full-time for eight years.
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Sarah Centrella: But yeah, it, it definitely called to me, it was not something I ever in million years thought I was going to leave a corporate job to do.
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Sarah Centrella: But I'm really glad I did.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love this story for so many reasons, obviously not the origin of it.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because that was rooted in probably the most horrific trauma that anybody can go through when they're navigating a relationship and trying to build a family.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But the fact that you were able to, in the darkest moments in your life, start with changing your thoughts and changing your mindset and knowing that there was.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You didn't know what it was, but you knew that there was a way out of it and you were going to put your energy towards doing that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I think for a lot of my patients who are going through these body changes where they are, you know, going and they feel like they're being gaslit by their medical professionals.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Or nobody has answers and they don't know how to go out and find that information.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Just the thought of changing their mindset and getting to a more positive place, and then being able to go out and seek that help that they're looking for is just such a compelling story.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I love that you've managed to take this very dark time in your life and turn it into an abundance of blessings.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: What are the titles of the four books you've written so far?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I know you have another one coming and I have that one ordered.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Ordered on Amazon as well.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yay.
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Sarah Centrella: Thank you.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah, so my very first book is called Hustle Believe, receive, and that was really kind of based off my blog journey.
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Sarah Centrella: I just started getting on sharing, you know, as a single mom, I felt like I didn't, I didn't have any community.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I didn't really
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Sarah Centrella: have anyone to talk to about all these things I was going through, and so I just went on and blogged and people started.
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Sarah Centrella: Kind of following along what I was doing and asking, Hey, how can I do it too?
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Sarah Centrella: 'cause it's obviously working for you.
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Sarah Centrella: And that was probably five years and that grew and grew and grew.
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Sarah Centrella: And then I was like, you know what?
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Sarah Centrella: I can't answer everyone's individual question all the time.
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Sarah Centrella: Why don't I write a book?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Put it all together.
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Sarah Centrella: There we go.
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Sarah Centrella: And then, that one has done really well.
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Sarah Centrella: We've re-released it twice, sold out both of its, printings.
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Sarah Centrella: And then the second one is future boards, and that's all about like how I manifested, so from the manifesting side.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah, my future boards.
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Sarah Centrella: And then the next one is all the things I wish I knew.
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Sarah Centrella: 80 life lessons for women.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So just
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Sarah Centrella: a tiny bit of things I needed to know.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, a
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Sarah Centrella: little bit.
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Sarah Centrella: A little bit.
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Sarah Centrella: Um, I had 120 and my editor was like.
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Sarah Centrella: You know, I, not a little too much.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Let's not get into three digits, right scale.
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Sarah Centrella: We can scale it to 80.
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Sarah Centrella: And then the one that is coming out in January is called Think It and it's all mindset.
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Sarah Centrella: So definitely, I know what we wanna get into today.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm excited to dive into, figure out like how you have tapped into that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I think I had shared with you before that about 10 years ago, we went through a really traumatic event where my husband had a heart attack and I had to go through that journey of finding it.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Unlike you was not able to self start and do that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I felt myself in just like this dark, deep hole.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But I had the blessing to find somebody who was a life coach.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Similar to what you did.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Who really helped me get myself out of a very dark time and start making forward progress.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But I would love to hear your method around that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: 'cause I think there's some core.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Around coaching and self coaching that you learn.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'm interested in hearing your, or sharing your method.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because you and I talked about this and I, I love the different things that you have pulled in and especially your thoughts around like, mind getting your mind at body.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I think we talked a little bit about finding your passion and your joy.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You know, the floor is yours.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Tell us.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Absolutely.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Tell us how to make the magic happen.
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Sarah Centrella: Well, you brought up a really good point in.
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Sarah Centrella: Women who are going through pre menopause or menopause, we'd have all these changes going on in our life, not just in our body, but like.
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Sarah Centrella: Most likely in career at that same time, maybe you're going through empty nester for the first time.
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Sarah Centrella: So it's like a massive life change and, and I'm right there.
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Sarah Centrella: I just turned 50 and just kind of became an empty nester.
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Sarah Centrella: So if all those are like right here, going through all of those changes, and I think it's really easy and life in general to be very, very focused on what's going on today.
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Sarah Centrella: And when we're talking from a mindset perspective, that's actually a pretty dangerous mind spiral to be in.
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Sarah Centrella: Because if you think about the base law of attraction, if you will, whether you believe it or not, it's been proven for centuries.
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Sarah Centrella: Which is just the idea that what I focus on, I bring to me so.
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Sarah Centrella: If what I'm focusing on is that my body feels terrible, that I feel terrible, that I have no energy, that everything is going wrong in my life, or that I'm not feeling great, or whatever the case is, and I'm doing that day after day because 90% of our thoughts are repetitive from yesterday to today.
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Sarah Centrella: So if you think about that, we have about 70 to 80,000 thoughts a day.
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Sarah Centrella: Wow.
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Sarah Centrella: 90% of them are just on auto repeat really.
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Sarah Centrella: So break out of that cycle.
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Sarah Centrella: And start thinking something brand new.
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Sarah Centrella: You can see it takes a lot of effort, right?
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Because it's much easier to just wake up today, the way I woke up two months ago, five years ago.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Right.
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Sarah Centrella: So if I'm not actively changing those thoughts, then all I'm doing is recreating today over and over and over and over in, into Infinity, and I'm waiting for a big life event or some miracle to shock me out of that.
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Sarah Centrella: Rotation.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Most people are in that spot.
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Sarah Centrella: They're just waiting for something good to happen, to hopefully shock'em out of it and, and maybe they'll feel better for a little while, but they'll go right back to the.
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Sarah Centrella: Same recycle unless they have a plan to get out of it and stay out of it.
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Sarah Centrella: And so what I do is I teach people how to train their thoughts to align with what they want rather than focusing on all these things I don't like.
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Sarah Centrella: Right.
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Sarah Centrella: So, and it starts very, very simple.
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Sarah Centrella: I share two of the simplest tools on the planet.
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Sarah Centrella: Um, they're so simple that I think a lot of people discount them and they're like, uh, that can't possibly work.
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Sarah Centrella: But I, I deeply challenge you to try it.
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Sarah Centrella: And if you try it for 30 days, you're gonna be shocked at the transformation that you are making, both in your own mental health, in your energy.
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Sarah Centrella: And then the longer you stick with it, the faster tangible results start coming in behind it.
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Sarah Centrella: So the first one is in a moment where you're kind of catching yourself obsessing over the things that aren't working.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You
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Sarah Centrella: know, my body feels crappy, I don't have any energy, whatever.
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Sarah Centrella: Right.
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Sarah Centrella: As soon as I kind of notice that thought, which in itself takes a a little awareness, takes a little practice to even pay attention to what's going on in my head.
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Sarah Centrella: Right.
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Sarah Centrella: But once I do, then use this tool, plug this tool in, I call it mental tennis and real quick I'll just walk you through it.
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Sarah Centrella: 'cause the visual helps.
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Sarah Centrella: You never forget it.
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Sarah Centrella: Okay.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So,
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Sarah Centrella: If you imagine that you're like out on a tennis court.
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Sarah Centrella: And you're practicing your return serve and you're doing it with one of those like automatic ball launchers, right?
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Sarah Centrella: Mm-hmm.
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Sarah Centrella: So you're standing there and no one in their right mind is just gonna stand there and let every ball hit them all over.
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Sarah Centrella: That's true.
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Sarah Centrella: Their body, right?
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Make some sort of effort to get out there and return some serves.
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Sarah Centrella: They're not gonna be perfect.
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Sarah Centrella: You know, a bunch of'em are gonna go out.
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Sarah Centrella: Some won't go over the net.
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Sarah Centrella: But my goal is to try and get them back over the net, right?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: So if we think of our mind or our brain as that tennis court all day long, those 90,000 thoughts that are on auto repeat are coming at us like fastballs just hit, hit, hit, hit, hit, and most people have no idea what to do with that information.
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Sarah Centrella: And so they absorb it.
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Sarah Centrella: And they believe that to be true, right?
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Sarah Centrella: So this self-doubt, this limiting belief, this, I can never change how I feel.
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Sarah Centrella: This is just how it is.
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Sarah Centrella: Like whatever those thoughts might be.
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Sarah Centrella: Thoughts of self-sabotage, imposter syndrome, whatever.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So
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Sarah Centrella: they're coming at us all the time and we analyze'em and be like, yeah, you know what?
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Sarah Centrella: You're right.
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Sarah Centrella: I'm not ready for that.
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Sarah Centrella: Or you're right, other people are way better at that.
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Sarah Centrella: I should just wait to do that, right?
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: So they really become our truth very, very quickly because we're absorbing every, we're just standing there getting hit.
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Sarah Centrella: We're just absorbing, right?
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Sarah Centrella: But now I just want you to return the serve.
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Sarah Centrella: And what I mean by that is all you have to do is think what's the opposite of this thought?
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Sarah Centrella: So if my thought is I'm not good enough.
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Sarah Centrella: Then I just go, I'm good enough.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Or I'm not ready.
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Sarah Centrella: I'm ready.
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Sarah Centrella: I'm getting better every day, or I can't do this.
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Sarah Centrella: I can do this.
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Sarah Centrella: It's very, very simple.
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Sarah Centrella: It's just the opposites you, but what you're doing is two very important things.
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Sarah Centrella: One, you're stopping the negative from continuing to grow, roots, recycle and create outcomes.
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Sarah Centrella: Number two, for the very first time ever, you're giving a brand new option.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that,
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Sarah Centrella: right?
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Sarah Centrella: That option wasn't there before.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, yeah.
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Sarah Centrella: Option of, I can had never grown roots to like help you figure out how you could do it, because if you shut down, it was never even put out there in the first place.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I feel like for women, we are almost conditioned to accept, right?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I, except whatever it is we're taught at from a younger age that.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You take care of everybody else.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Before yourself.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So with that type of societal conditioning or cultural conditioning or whatever you it is, you wanna call it, how many women just stand there and take those tennis balls coming to them?
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So this is an empowering thought that you don't No, I don't.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I don't have to
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Sarah Centrella: take it.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, I got a tennis racket in my hands.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like I'm, I don't, I'm the least athletic person I know, but this is driving with me because I'm like
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Sarah Centrella: one or two balls out there.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: At the worst case scenario, I can hold it in front of my face and it's not gonna like, hit me in the face.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
16:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But, you know, it, it, it gives you the option of protecting yourself in a way that power.
16:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
16:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
16:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And, and in a way that was maybe not taught to us or at all, accepted at that, uh, you know, at the time that we were growing up is that you don't have to take that.
17:09
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You don't have to
17:12
Sarah Centrella: accept it.
17:12
Sarah Centrella: Accept it's not true.
17:13
Sarah Centrella: Negatives not, yeah, it's not true truly.
17:16
Sarah Centrella: But most people don't even understand that statement.
17:19
Sarah Centrella: So if everyone listening can just ruminate on that, like, what if I'm not my thoughts?
17:23
Sarah Centrella: What if everything my brain is telling me about who I am is actually just made up bullshit.
17:29
Sarah Centrella: Like, what if that was true?
17:30
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
17:30
Sarah Centrella: Okay.
17:31
Sarah Centrella: Well then which ones do I not want anymore?
17:34
Sarah Centrella: You know, and, and the crazy thing about when you're using mental tennis is that in the moment you immediately feel better.
17:39
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
17:40
Sarah Centrella: Because what happens when I ruminate on the thought that I'm not good enough, or I'm not ready, or I feel terrible or whatever, my body starts to ugh.
17:50
Sarah Centrella: Right?
17:50
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
17:50
Sarah Centrella: I start to physically feel.
17:53
Sarah Centrella: Just yucky.
17:54
Sarah Centrella: I might get a stomach ache, I might get a headache, I might have other signs of stress.
17:59
Sarah Centrella: And as soon as I stop that and put the empowering opposite in, all of a sudden I'm like, oh, oh, I feel a little better.
18:05
Sarah Centrella: So if you want an instant fricking fix, that is an instant way to change your energy in the moment.
18:11
Sarah Centrella: And it doesn't matter what the subject matter is, the subject matter could be like.
18:15
Sarah Centrella: My partner is annoying.
18:16
Sarah Centrella: You know, like my kids are annoying.
18:18
Sarah Centrella: Like it doesn't matter.
18:19
Sarah Centrella: You can flip it and be like, Hey, I'm so grateful, you know, that I get to smoke with my kids.
18:24
Sarah Centrella: My kid's pretty funny actually, you know?
18:26
Sarah Centrella: So how can I like turn it around and start thinking, putting the opposites out there so I can start to get it.
18:31
Sarah Centrella: And then the other one, is even simpler.
18:34
Sarah Centrella: And those are just, IM affirmations.
18:37
Sarah Centrella: So we use these two tools in two different ways.
18:41
Sarah Centrella: Mental tennis, you're using it in the moment.
18:43
Sarah Centrella: You know when you're getting inundated with those balls, you're flipping it back around, but affirmations you can use proactively.
18:49
Sarah Centrella: And you just use them in the same way you do any other practice.
18:53
Sarah Centrella: If you take your vitamins every morning, if you brush your teeth every day, if you go to the gym every day, you know that those are habits and they're practices and you just do them, right?
19:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
19:02
Sarah Centrella: So if you could plug in saying 10 to 20 positive, IM affirmations.
19:09
Sarah Centrella: Every morning when you brush your teeth and every night before you go to bed, you will become a different human.
19:16
Sarah Centrella: In 30 days.
19:17
Sarah Centrella: Like it's,
19:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
19:18
Sarah Centrella: Crazy.
19:19
Sarah Centrella: It is so crazy.
19:20
Sarah Centrella: So I think of it as my list of who I am becoming.
19:25
Sarah Centrella: So they should always be, aspirational.
19:28
Sarah Centrella: Mm-hmm.
19:28
Sarah Centrella: So in other words, you shouldn't say, I'm a good mom unless you really, truly believe you're a terrible mom.
19:33
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
19:33
Sarah Centrella: Then we'd say that.
19:34
Sarah Centrella: 'cause we wanna become that, right?
19:36
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
19:36
Sarah Centrella: You're putting out there all the things you wish you were, so all the things like you wish you felt.
19:42
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
19:42
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: The
19:42
Sarah Centrella: ways you wish people treated you.
19:44
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
19:44
Sarah Centrella: All the ways you wanna show up, um, how you wish your world was.
19:49
Sarah Centrella: So you're saying things like, I am beautiful, I am healthy, I'm vibrant, I'm full of energy.
19:55
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
19:55
Sarah Centrella: I'm successful.
19:57
Sarah Centrella: I am getting stronger and better every day.
19:59
Sarah Centrella: People love me.
20:00
Sarah Centrella: I am loved.
20:02
Sarah Centrella: I make friends easily.
20:02
Sarah Centrella: So whatever your things are, we're putting out.
20:07
Sarah Centrella: The empowering opposite of all your kind of internal demons, and we all have them.
20:11
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
20:11
Sarah Centrella: So if you just did that as a practice, every single day, you're gonna notice week one, you're gonna start to feel a lot better.
20:18
Sarah Centrella: Just your energy's gonna rise because you're no longer beating yourself down.
20:22
Sarah Centrella: You're lifting yourself up, right?
20:23
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
20:23
Sarah Centrella: Week two, even better.
20:25
Sarah Centrella: But then this magical thing will start to happen in week three, where you hear both the voices.
20:31
Sarah Centrella: The one that's like, you're terrible and now this new one that's like, no, you're strong.
20:36
Sarah Centrella: You're ready.
20:37
Sarah Centrella: You got this.
20:38
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
20:38
Sarah Centrella: And now for the first time ever, you make a choice.
20:41
Sarah Centrella: You say, which lane am I gonna take?
20:43
Sarah Centrella: Am I gonna go back around in this cul-de-sac that I've been in for years and years and years?
20:47
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
20:48
Sarah Centrella: Or am I gonna get off it and go with that new empowered statement and show up as that person?
20:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
20:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It
20:54
Sarah Centrella: actually changes.
20:55
Sarah Centrella: How you make decisions, which of course will change your outcome.
20:58
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
20:59
Sarah Centrella: So it is the fastest and simplest way to get new outcomes in any area of your life.
21:04
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
21:04
Sarah Centrella: And it's like five minutes a day.
21:05
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It sounds so simple.
21:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: What do you find are like the biggest barriers that your clients will come up against when they're first trying to implement those changes?
21:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Is it just the strength of the negative voice?
21:18
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
21:18
Sarah Centrella: So I would say when you're very, when you very first start doing any of this mindset work, our number one, we, the one place that we start with is called mental inventory.
21:28
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
21:28
Sarah Centrella: And I have a little practice where, you know, if you have a smartwatch or phone or whatever, you set it to you once an hour and in that, you know, five seconds, you're asking yourself, what was I thinking about this hour?
21:41
Sarah Centrella: Just so you can learn how to track what's going on of mind, right?
21:45
Sarah Centrella: What are those 70,000 thoughts that I'm having a day?
21:48
Sarah Centrella: That process can be a lot.
21:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
21:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: 'cause
21:51
Sarah Centrella: for many people it is a first time in their whole life where they realized, oh my god.
21:56
Sarah Centrella: I had no idea how mean I was to myself.
21:59
Sarah Centrella: I had no idea how often I obsessed about really horrible things.
22:03
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
22:04
Sarah Centrella: I had no idea that like I was putting all of this really negative energy out into the world and into my life, you know?
22:11
Sarah Centrella: So like, I would say that part, uh, I had a client once refer to it as mental warfare and I was like, that's accurate.
22:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
22:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
22:19
Sarah Centrella: So that first week when you're practicing it can be a lot because soon as you start to understand this concept.
22:26
Sarah Centrella: And you understand that what I think becomes what I do becomes my reality.
22:33
Sarah Centrella: Then it's, it's kind of hard not to look back over your life and be like, wow.
22:37
Sarah Centrella: Why did you jack that up?
22:40
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'll share that.
22:41
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: When I first started going through this, it was funny because, being the oldest daughter in an immigrant family and, having all.
22:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Cultural expectations and my parents compared to a lot of other immigrant parents were pretty chill.
22:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like they were pretty free with me and my sisters.
22:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I, I credit that to the fact that we grew up like mostly well adjusted, right?
23:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
23:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like we, we all have our little idea of ressies, but it's so interesting the amount of pressure that you put on yourself, right?
23:06
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
23:06
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Or what you shut down.
23:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
23:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And for me it was.
23:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That I had learned to like chess checklist things, and I was not being introspective about what it was that I really wanted.
23:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
23:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it wasn't until my husband went through his heart attack that he was the first one to point it out to me.
23:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: He's like, dude, you're living your life like an ostrich, like you're in the sand.
23:29
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And you know, like you're just so focused on your list.
23:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You're not realizing that like.
23:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Things that you should be taking care of for yourself or like falling apart and exploding.
23:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
23:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
23:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
23:40
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it was such an interesting thing that I just like learned to turn it off so that I could get through my list.
23:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: The list, yeah.
23:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because the list was the right thing to do.
23:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
23:50
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Or at least that's where the thoughts were coming from.
23:52
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
23:52
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And when I learned to let go of the, well, maybe I don't have to do what's on that list.
23:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, yeah.
23:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
23:59
Sarah Centrella: Maybe I could try to be present even for five minutes or 10 minutes, or.
24:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Exactly right.
24:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And like it changed my life.
24:05
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I love this idea of empowering women to take charge of their thoughts mm-hmm.
24:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And as they're making those changes and manifesting those changes for themselves, what are some other things that you see come up for women?
24:18
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because the process is never linear for anything we do.
24:22
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's always gonna be starts and stops, peaks and valleys until you, but I do believe that you can still continue to have progress in whatever direction you wanna go.
24:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
24:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Oh,
24:31
Sarah Centrella: abs ab up, down,
24:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: sideways.
24:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah,
24:33
Sarah Centrella: absolutely.
24:33
Sarah Centrella: I think one of the things that I see, is when women tend to hit like 40 and on, they have this idea or this notion that I guess I'm done.
24:44
Sarah Centrella: You know, I guess like all the opportunities that I was supposed to chase, all the things I was supposed to do, wanted to do, I guess that's over, you know?
24:51
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
24:51
Sarah Centrella: And I don't know where that comes from.
24:53
Sarah Centrella: I mean, me media, I guess, whatever, but.
24:56
Sarah Centrella: Nothing could be more insane.
24:58
Sarah Centrella: Like nothing could be more insane than that.
25:00
Sarah Centrella: Like that's crazy talk.
25:01
Sarah Centrella: Yeah, I think, the person that I am now at 50 is, oh my god, such a better human than I was at 30.
25:09
Sarah Centrella: You know, even then I was at 40.
25:11
Sarah Centrella: Like, it's so true.
25:13
Sarah Centrella: What they say that like not only do you grow in all these other ways, and yes our body changes and there's a lot of it that's frustrating, but you also.
25:21
Sarah Centrella: Get this sense of, you know who you are.
25:24
Sarah Centrella: Yes.
25:25
Sarah Centrella: You know, you stop caring about what everybody else thinks.
25:27
Sarah Centrella: You stop the judgment game, you stop kind of all of that, and you come into your own.
25:32
Sarah Centrella: And that is such a beautiful thing.
25:34
Sarah Centrella: And I think especially, at least for me, I intentionally guide that with doing things like my I am statements, and so I use those all the time to make sure that I am always growing, that I am always kind of morphing into who I am becoming.
25:48
Sarah Centrella: So they don't like stagnant out and get to that place where life feels me.
25:53
Sarah Centrella: Like I always want to be growing, to be pushing myself to find a piece of my life that I'm like, Hey, you know, I could up level here, I could push here.
26:03
Sarah Centrella: If I'm bored here, what do I need to do to shake that up?
26:05
Sarah Centrella: Or to totally pivot or to drop it and start something new yeah.
26:09
Sarah Centrella: You know, and so all of those things I think we're really afraid to do.
26:12
Sarah Centrella: Maybe in our thirties or twenties or whatever.
26:14
Sarah Centrella: But I think there's a lot of freedom that comes, with just knowing like, Hey, this is my life.
26:20
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
26:20
Sarah Centrella: I'm gonna get the absolute best that I can.
26:23
Sarah Centrella: And I think once you learn how to align your mindset with some of those goals,
26:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: yeah, you
26:27
Sarah Centrella: feel really, truly unstoppable.
26:29
Sarah Centrella: Like most of the time our mindset is sabotaging everything we're actually doing.
26:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
26:34
Sarah Centrella: Because the whole time we're doing the thing.
26:36
Sarah Centrella: Putting in the hustle, putting in the work, showing up, whatever our mindset is saying, the opposite of all that is true.
26:44
Sarah Centrella: So it's telling us, this isn't gonna work, this isn't gonna succeed.
26:48
Sarah Centrella: You're too old, you're too this, you're too that.
26:50
Sarah Centrella: Right.
26:51
Sarah Centrella: And if I don't know how to shut that shit down.
26:53
Sarah Centrella: Change it.
26:54
Sarah Centrella: To be like, you are ready for this.
26:56
Sarah Centrella: You're on fire.
26:57
Sarah Centrella: The world needs to hear what you have to say like.
27:00
Sarah Centrella: Y today's the day, let's go.
27:03
Sarah Centrella: If I'm not putting those two things together, I'm never gonna get where I wanna go.
27:06
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
27:06
Sarah Centrella: I'm just be fighting myself the whole entire time.
27:09
Sarah Centrella: So it's such a powerful thing.
27:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It really is.
27:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I'll say that with working on all of these things, I am a much, like you said, you feel like you're a much better human at 50.
27:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I feel like I am a much kinder person to myself mm-hmm.
27:23
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: At, right.
27:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
27:25
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: How I was treating myself in my twenties and thirties is so different than how I'm treating myself in my forties.
27:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it is a very empowering feeling.
27:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
27:35
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it's hard to balance right when you physiologically start feeling crappy, but to your point, like if you're able to harness that power in your mind, you can then go out and make changes, right?
27:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
27:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And part of that includes building a life that you want, but then also seeking the help for whatever else might be going on in your absolutely.
27:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: In your life that you would ignore and otherwise shut down.
27:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I always wondered where that.
28:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: At least when I was a kid, I don't know if you saw this like, but my parents' friends would give each other these cards at like when they turned 40.
28:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
28:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Go over the hill.
28:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Over the hill.
28:09
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You're over the hill.
28:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
28:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's all, everything
28:11
Sarah Centrella: back.
28:11
Sarah Centrella: Like this is the morning.
28:12
Sarah Centrella: I'm freaking happy to be here.
28:14
Sarah Centrella: Thank you very much.
28:15
Sarah Centrella: Yes,
28:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: yes.
28:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's not like we're like one foot in the grave and one on a banana peel at 40.
28:20
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
28:20
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: No, really.
28:22
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I had a mentor who used to say, who used to say that for like people who were close to making their transition to the afterlife.
28:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I don't feel like it has to feel like that in your forties.
28:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
28:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it's such a beautiful time of like mental and emotional growth.
28:36
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That we need to be grabbing towards that instead of shying away from it.
28:40
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
28:41
Sarah Centrella: And such a simple tie in is if I am dreading those milestones, right?
28:46
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
28:47
Sarah Centrella: If I'm like, oh my God, I don't wanna be 50, I'm about to be old, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
28:51
Sarah Centrella: Or if I'm telling myself every day kind, I feel old.
28:53
Sarah Centrella: Oh, I'm looking old.
28:54
Sarah Centrella: I'm getting this, I'm getting that.
28:55
Sarah Centrella: Whatever.
28:55
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
28:55
Sarah Centrella: I mean, we all do that, but if that's where my focus is all the time,
28:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: yeah.
29:00
Sarah Centrella: Then I will feel old and I will prematurely age, and I will also.
29:05
Sarah Centrella: Not be taking care of myself.
29:07
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
29:07
Sarah Centrella: The way that I would if I felt that I was youthful and beautiful.
29:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
29:12
Sarah Centrella: Right?
29:13
Sarah Centrella: Yes.
29:13
Sarah Centrella: So that is how your mindset dictates your actual act actions, the things you actually do.
29:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
29:19
Sarah Centrella: So if instead, I'm telling myself every morning in my.
29:24
Sarah Centrella: Morning practice.
29:24
Sarah Centrella: I am beautiful.
29:26
Sarah Centrella: I am sexy.
29:26
Sarah Centrella: I'm vibrant.
29:27
Sarah Centrella: I feel fantastic.
29:28
Sarah Centrella: God, I'm in the best shape of my life.
29:29
Sarah Centrella: I feel all of those could be total freaking lies, by the way.
29:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love that.
29:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like
29:35
Sarah Centrella: full lies.
29:36
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
29:36
Sarah Centrella: Because remember they are, they're pulling me to where I wanna go.
29:40
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
29:40
Sarah Centrella: So they're kind of at the top of the ladder throwing me a line and I'm like using it to get up there.
29:44
Sarah Centrella: Right?
29:45
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
29:45
Sarah Centrella: So I want them to feel.
29:48
Sarah Centrella: Almost like lies because that's how I have to retrain the programming in.
29:51
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
29:51
Sarah Centrella: My head and our brain works just like a computer.
29:55
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
29:55
Sarah Centrella: So if I'm not putting in a new program, I'm only gonna be running the old one over and over again.
29:59
Sarah Centrella: Right.
29:59
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
30:00
Sarah Centrella: So I remember the very first I that I ever used was right after my ex-husband left.
30:05
Sarah Centrella: And I was, you know, after the twins.
30:07
Sarah Centrella: It was the heaviest point in my life.
30:09
Sarah Centrella: It felt horrible.
30:10
Sarah Centrella: Okay.
30:11
Sarah Centrella: Literally had these nasty, nasty voice in my head that all day, every day told me how awful I looked and how terrible I, you know, it was so nasty, right?
30:22
Sarah Centrella: And I just remember one day going like, this does not make me wanna go to the gym.
30:26
Sarah Centrella: This does not make me wanna skip on ice.
30:30
Sarah Centrella: You know, like yeah.
30:31
Sarah Centrella: Listening to that voice all day, it just makes you feel like, well, who cares?
30:33
Sarah Centrella: I guess I'll just sit here
30:35
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: and let it happen.
30:35
Sarah Centrella: Right.
30:36
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Gonna give up.
30:36
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
30:37
Sarah Centrella: So how I even came a across like these tools is one day I just said, I'm done with that.
30:42
Sarah Centrella: That feels terrible, and I don't wanna feel terrible anymore.
30:45
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
30:45
Sarah Centrella: I just remember looking in the mirror and I was like, you're beautiful.
30:47
Sarah Centrella: You're sexy, you're amazing.
30:49
Sarah Centrella: Your body looks great.
30:50
Sarah Centrella: Your body's responding quickly.
30:52
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
30:52
Sarah Centrella: You look great easily.
30:53
Sarah Centrella: So I just started reversing all the lies.
30:56
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
30:56
Sarah Centrella: That I'm telling myself and.
30:59
Sarah Centrella: I only did it because I felt better in the moment.
31:01
Sarah Centrella: I didn't think it would have any long-term impact, but the more that I did it, the more I felt that way.
31:06
Sarah Centrella: The more I showed up that way, the more I got dressed.
31:08
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
31:08
Sarah Centrella: Instead of wore sweatpants, the more I put makeup on instead of, you know, like not showering for a week.
31:13
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
31:14
Sarah Centrella: And it started changing how the energy I was projecting into the world, which changed how people responded to me.
31:20
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
31:20
Sarah Centrella: Which I went from being totally invisible to being seen again.
31:23
Sarah Centrella: You know?
31:24
Sarah Centrella: So like that's how it tangibly.
31:26
Sarah Centrella: Makes a difference.
31:27
Sarah Centrella: And then probably about a year later, I remember I was like walking by a store, you know, window and caught a glimpse of myself and I was like, damn, girl, you hot so good.
31:38
Sarah Centrella: It was this automatic thing where I was like, oh my God, I really feel like all the things I've been saying.
31:43
Sarah Centrella: So for all the women out there, we all grew up with.
31:46
Sarah Centrella: I call her nasty bitch.
31:47
Sarah Centrella: Sorry, who's in our head, whose job it is to tear us down.
31:52
Sarah Centrella: Never met a woman who doesn't have that voice in their head.
31:53
Sarah Centrella: Right?
31:54
Sarah Centrella: But we don't have to listen to her anymore.
31:56
Sarah Centrella: You literally turn the other one on and be like, fill me up, girl.
32:00
Sarah Centrella: Fill me up.
32:00
Sarah Centrella: Let's go.
32:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, your inner hype woman, right?
32:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yep.
32:03
Sarah Centrella: And you become her.
32:04
Sarah Centrella: You show up as her people respond to you as her, and that starts changing everything.
32:09
Sarah Centrella: It starts opening doors instead of closing them, starts bringing amazing new people into your life.
32:13
Sarah Centrella: It starts.
32:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah,
32:15
Sarah Centrella: giving you the aura and the energy that attracts all the things you want.
32:19
Sarah Centrella: It's really powerful and very simple.
32:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's so beautiful how simple it is Yeah.
32:23
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And how complicated we make it.
32:25
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it's,
32:26
Sarah Centrella: yeah, exactly.
32:27
Sarah Centrella: It's, yeah.
32:29
Sarah Centrella: It's like, nope, a 2-year-old could do this, y'all.
32:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
32:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's so true.
32:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
32:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it's amazing.
32:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like you look at little kids.
32:35
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And they have that fearlessness in them, right?
32:38
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: They think they can do anything.
32:41
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I mean, my husband told me that when he was like three, he was convinced he was superman, tied a sheet around his neck and jumped out of a two story window.
32:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Luckily landed in some bushes and it was all good.
32:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I think maybe he like scraped himself up a little bit, but it's like that degree of like fearlessness, we are conditioned to lose over time.
32:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Such a great tool to reclaim that, right?
33:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
33:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Especially in a period of our life where we shouldn't just accept, you know, the over the hill trope of, you know, blah, everything's gonna be in a decline now.
33:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
33:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: No, this is that reclamation of your power in midlife, and I love that.
33:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
33:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Or at any point in your life, right, at any point in your life that you need this tool, whether you're in your younger years or older years, you can reclaim that power for yourself.
33:25
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You get to, to change.
33:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Absolutely.
33:28
Sarah Centrella: And it just feels so much better.
33:29
Sarah Centrella: Like you go through the day with so much more energy, you have confidence.
33:34
Sarah Centrella: That confidence, you know, like I said, is mirrored out and brought back to you all day long, every day.
33:39
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
33:40
Sarah Centrella: We all know what that feels like.
33:41
Sarah Centrella: 'cause we've all had those highs, right?
33:42
Sarah Centrella: We've all been on a winning streak or whatever.
33:45
Sarah Centrella: This is a tool that will keep you in that energy that you make happen for yourself all the time.
33:53
Sarah Centrella: So you're not waiting for that thing to happen to make you feel like, oh, now I'm winning.
33:58
Sarah Centrella: Because sometimes that might, that, that could be a year in between those types of wins.
34:02
Sarah Centrella: Right?
34:02
Sarah Centrella: True.
34:03
Sarah Centrella: I'm not trying to put the rest of the year in blah land, you know?
34:06
Sarah Centrella: No, no, no, no.
34:07
Sarah Centrella: So like this is how I bring that energy into my daily life on a daily basis.
34:13
Sarah Centrella: So that I feel that way.
34:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That is fabulous.
34:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So tell me more about the vision boards.
34:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like I wanna know how to create one of these or future boards, that's what you call it, the future boards.
34:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
34:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I wanna know how to create these or teach our listeners how to create these where you are.
34:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Able to bring to fruition all of the things that you're manifesting.
34:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like that's such a beautiful concept.
34:36
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
34:36
Sarah Centrella: The first thing to kind of note is that I always have all of my clients write down their life plan story.
34:42
Sarah Centrella: And I can send you the link and you can share it with your Yeah, yeah.
34:44
Sarah Centrella: With your clients.
34:44
Sarah Centrella: Um,'cause it gives them the breakdown of exactly how to do this assignment.
34:48
Sarah Centrella: It forces you to really think about what is, what do I want?
34:52
Sarah Centrella: What is my, yeah.
34:53
Sarah Centrella: Perfect ideal future look like?
34:55
Sarah Centrella: Like if I'm allowed to have that wish, which you are.
34:58
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
34:58
Sarah Centrella: What does it look like if my career is super fulfilling and I love it and the schedule isn't too crazy and I'm getting paid what I am deserving and yes.
35:06
Sarah Centrella: All those little things that annoy me.
35:08
Sarah Centrella: What if they were all fixed and it was really, really great?
35:11
Sarah Centrella: And what if my relationships were just like beautiful and healthy and fulfilling and loving?
35:15
Sarah Centrella: And so you go through all these categories.
35:17
Sarah Centrella: What if physically I felt amazing?
35:19
Sarah Centrella: What if.
35:20
Sarah Centrella: On a mental side, like I felt strong and was taking the time to de-stress, but I was also growth too.
35:27
Sarah Centrella: So I go through these various categories.
35:29
Sarah Centrella: Money is great.
35:30
Sarah Centrella: Things are going really well on that, and it forces you to write out, okay, if all that's true, what does that look like for me?
35:36
Sarah Centrella: Can I draw that up?
35:37
Sarah Centrella: Can I architect it?
35:39
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
35:39
Sarah Centrella: And the thing is, is that most of us go through our lives after our twenties.
35:45
Sarah Centrella: With zero plan or very little plan.
35:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
35:49
Sarah Centrella: For the rest of our lives.
35:50
Sarah Centrella: Right, because the, your entire childhood, everyone's asking you what do you wanna be when you grow up, right?
35:55
Sarah Centrella: Yep.
35:56
Sarah Centrella: And then you go to school.
35:57
Sarah Centrella: What are you majoring in?
35:58
Sarah Centrella: What are you, whatever.
35:59
Sarah Centrella: Okay, now you got a job.
36:00
Sarah Centrella: What are your job?
36:01
Sarah Centrella: No one ever asks you after that, and so we forget to ask ourselves.
36:06
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
36:06
Sarah Centrella: We stop planning, you know?
36:07
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
36:07
Sarah Centrella: We might be like, Hey, I wanna get married or wanna have kids, but like for the most part.
36:11
Sarah Centrella: All that goal setting, we were doing all that vision setting, all those dreams that we had, the first 20, maybe 30 years of our life just falls off Cliff, and we just let life unfold and hope good things will happen.
36:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: When those plans don't work out the way that you want them to, you feel like you're stuck.
36:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
36:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
36:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I remember leaving my first job.
36:33
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And being devastated and like crying to my husband that I'm, I was supposed to be at this job forever.
36:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
36:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And he got me down and he was like, are you delusional?
36:44
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I was like, but I did everything on the list and I'm supposed to be here forever.
36:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And he's like.
36:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's the wildest thing I've ever heard.
36:52
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like, no, that's not rooted in reality.
36:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
36:55
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: No.
36:55
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I feel like this is a great way to kind of shift that out of that.
36:58
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
36:59
Sarah Centrella: And also it's a way to check in with yourself.
37:01
Sarah Centrella: I always have my clients do it at the beginning of the year, every year.
37:04
Sarah Centrella: So you're checking in with yourself'cause you grow, right?
37:06
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
37:07
Sarah Centrella: In this last six months we've grown.
37:09
Sarah Centrella: In the last year, we've definitely grown.
37:11
Sarah Centrella: And that's when you check in and say like, Hey, is this job really serving me?
37:14
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
37:14
Sarah Centrella: Am I really miserable or am I just having bad attitude about it every day?
37:18
Sarah Centrella: And if I wasn't doing this job, what would I do?
37:20
Sarah Centrella: And what's holding me back?
37:21
Sarah Centrella: So it, it gives you that introspective to see like, am am I moving towards the life that I want and the things that I want?
37:29
Sarah Centrella: Or am I kind of in this stagnant space where fear and doubt are?
37:34
Sarah Centrella: Keeping me from making any type of move.
37:36
Sarah Centrella: So this exercise, the life plan story, which I'll send to you is just a great spot to give you permission to totally dream and scope it all out, build that architecture foundation, and then we go over to Pinterest and we literally start searching up everything in the story.
37:52
Sarah Centrella: And so, you know, we start going like, okay, if I am successful, let's say I'm successfully running my own company.
37:59
Sarah Centrella: What can I create?
38:01
Sarah Centrella: Kind of a visual, what does that, what does one of those days look like?
38:04
Sarah Centrella: Is that me leading a seminar?
38:05
Sarah Centrella: Is that me working one-on-one with a client?
38:08
Sarah Centrella: Is it me on a big, big stage or whatever your goals or dreams are, and then you're just literally like woman stage photography and you're searching it up.
38:17
Sarah Centrella: And most people don't know this, but Pinterest is the largest photography library on the entire internet.
38:23
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I did not.
38:24
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: No, no.
38:24
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
38:24
Sarah Centrella: Most people use it for DIY or recipes or whatever.
38:26
Sarah Centrella: If you add the word photography to any search, you're gonna see a whole different side of Pinterest, and it's really inspiring and really exciting because it starts to become everything that's in your little personal brain.
38:38
Sarah Centrella: All of a sudden you're seeing it in front of you.
38:39
Sarah Centrella: You're seeing hundreds of examples of people living this dream that maybe never told anyone you even had.
38:46
Sarah Centrella: 'cause you were so scared'cause it felt so big.
38:49
Sarah Centrella: And now you see all these versions of people living this dream.
38:52
Sarah Centrella: So it's real.
38:53
Sarah Centrella: Someone's doing it.
38:54
Sarah Centrella: And then you can find a picture that's like, oh my God, that's me doing.
38:57
Sarah Centrella: The thing I wanted to do.
38:59
Sarah Centrella: And so every single picture is like that.
39:01
Sarah Centrella: Which is why this is so different than a traditional vision board because those are just magazine collages that mean nothing.
39:08
Sarah Centrella: This is very, very intentionally architecting my future.
39:12
Sarah Centrella: Yes.
39:13
Sarah Centrella: And it's helping me identify what matters to me, why it matters.
39:17
Sarah Centrella: And it is showing is huge.
39:19
Sarah Centrella: That's possible.
39:20
Sarah Centrella: And it's showing me what my future is, showing me what I'm working towards.
39:23
Sarah Centrella: And I've had 12 boards now in the last 15 years come to life, like 60 to 70% in a year on an annual basis.
39:33
Sarah Centrella: Amazing.
39:33
Sarah Centrella: Um, I've taken my kids to seven countries.
39:36
Sarah Centrella: I've.
39:36
Sarah Centrella: For the last four years, held international retreats all over the world.
39:40
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
39:40
Sarah Centrella: Manifested, love manifested like a new career over and over, like, I mean, the list goes on and on and on.
39:46
Sarah Centrella: My son manifested his dream playing football at Oregon.
39:49
Sarah Centrella: So amazing.
39:50
Sarah Centrella: There's just, there's really no limit to what you can, you can ask for and put out there and live.
39:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
39:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I, I love that, and I love that you've passed those principles down to your kids too.
40:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I mean, what an amazing tool to grow up with.
40:04
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I, I always feel like we'd be.
40:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: More functional, not functional.
40:09
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I think more inspired human beings.
40:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
40:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: If we were able to harness that at a younger age.
40:14
Sarah Centrella: Oh my gosh.
40:15
Sarah Centrella: Me too.
40:15
Sarah Centrella: Brain's
40:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: not ready either.
40:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
40:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So
40:17
Sarah Centrella: I always tell parents, I'm like, teach them what you're learning.
40:21
Sarah Centrella: Because if we knew how to control our thoughts, if we knew how to turn around that negative way, said 7, 8, 9, 10, whatever.
40:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
40:27
Sarah Centrella: Where would we be?
40:28
Sarah Centrella: You know?
40:29
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
40:29
Sarah Centrella: So you can absolutely teach your kids.
40:31
Sarah Centrella: I started pumping my son full of those I am affirmations creating who he wanted to be, but who he wasn't at the time, back when he was like six years old, you know, he was the type that wanted to give up real quick if he didn't get it right.
40:43
Sarah Centrella: And I'd be like, you are so determined.
40:45
Sarah Centrella: You're the most determined kid I've ever known.
40:48
Sarah Centrella: That kid was not determined, but he got there.
40:54
Sarah Centrella: But because I was constantly putting it in his head.
40:57
Sarah Centrella: Yeah, right.
40:58
Sarah Centrella: Then he stopped giving up so easily and he started being more determined and literally his coaches in college would be like that.
41:04
Sarah Centrella: Kid's so determined and that would be something that he would describe himself as now as an adult.
41:09
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
41:09
Sarah Centrella: You know, so that, that's the evolution of what I tell myself.
41:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Oh, amazing.
41:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
41:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That's fabulous.
41:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Wow.
41:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's crazy.
41:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So yeah.
41:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's like Jedi minds, right?
41:19
Sarah Centrella: You, you feel like superhuman a little bit.
41:21
Sarah Centrella: You're like, oh my God, I made that happen.
41:25
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
41:26
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So how do you teach people to identify what their priorities are when they're, when they're doing this?
41:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: For those of us who are out there who wanna improve multiple areas in their lives, like how do you prioritize?
41:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like, what is going to be the most important thing?
41:41
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Or can you work on all of them at the same time?
41:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
41:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Ooh.
41:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
41:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Maybe that's a limiting thought that you only have to do one at a time.
41:47
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
41:47
Sarah Centrella: Such a good question.
41:48
Sarah Centrella: I get that a lot because my future boards and my whole method is based on five core categories of life.
41:54
Sarah Centrella: And those are.
41:55
Sarah Centrella: Relationships, which means all people in your life, your career and your ambitions and, your wealth and abundance, your mind and body and your passions and joys.
42:05
Sarah Centrella: So for me and the coaching that I've done over the last 15 years, I've really found that those are the main categories anyway, that when we are putting energy into all of those, we feel fulfilled.
42:17
Sarah Centrella: When we're not, we don't.
42:19
Sarah Centrella: So I would say.
42:21
Sarah Centrella: As a general rule, most Americans put all their energy into career, some energy into relationships.
42:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
42:29
Sarah Centrella: And maybe 20% of'em put it into exercise on the body side.
42:36
Sarah Centrella: That's a, that's, but that's Leave an overestimation on the table.
42:40
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
42:40
Sarah Centrella: Hot on the table.
42:42
Sarah Centrella: And then we wonder like, why do I feel stressed all the time?
42:44
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
42:44
Sarah Centrella: Why am I so obsessed about my job?
42:47
Sarah Centrella: Why is my family complaining about because I'm not present and I'm not enjoying life.
42:52
Sarah Centrella: It's because I don't have these other components.
42:54
Sarah Centrella: And the first time I went to Italy, it just impacted everything about my life.
42:58
Sarah Centrella: I saw just how different humans can live.
43:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
43:02
Sarah Centrella: And be successful.
43:03
Sarah Centrella: I think there's a misnomer that, you know, Europeans aren't successful.
43:07
Sarah Centrella: They just lay around and drink and eat all day and whatever.
43:11
Sarah Centrella: Like, I'm sorry.
43:12
Sarah Centrella: There's a lot of very, very successful Yeah, exactly.
43:16
Sarah Centrella: Who are successful, uh, but they know how to balance, right?
43:19
Sarah Centrella: Mm-hmm.
43:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You're
43:20
Sarah Centrella: fine with taking a two hour lunch because they're with an old friend and Yeah.
43:24
Sarah Centrella: They know how to savor a meal and that is important.
43:28
Sarah Centrella: And so that becomes this pocket of joy that is sacred to them.
43:32
Sarah Centrella: And then they'll go back and get their work done.
43:33
Sarah Centrella: Right?
43:34
Sarah Centrella: Those are just the types of things that we don't do here and we don't necessarily know their value.
43:39
Sarah Centrella: And so we just steam ahead with our crazy schedules and on we go.
43:43
Sarah Centrella: But if we were able to like slow down a little bit and say, Hey, what brings me joy?
43:48
Sarah Centrella: And most of the time I will tell you women especially can't answer that.
43:52
Sarah Centrella: At all.
43:52
Sarah Centrella: They have no, they just look at me like I'm crazy.
43:54
Sarah Centrella: They're just like, what are you talking about?
43:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'll be honest, like I, I was in that boat, right?
44:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because when you go through a bunch of different things in life for me it was like my training and my education, I dropped all of these hobbies that I used to, yeah.
44:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
44:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yep.
44:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So then I end up in motherhood and starting my career without having those things that were previously bringing me joy.
44:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Joy and passion and balance.
44:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
44:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And balance and all of those things.
44:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And then you hit a point where, you know, I was talking to my husband, our son's 13, and it's only gonna be five years before he's out of the house and we're empty nesters.
44:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
44:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And that's gonna fly by I, right.
44:29
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I was like, oh my God.
44:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: We need hobbies.
44:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, we absolutely, because I see my patients struggle.
44:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right.
44:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: When they retire, they don't know what they're gonna do with themselves.
44:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
44:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So afterwards.
44:38
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But I think that practice of trying to figure out how to build those passions and joys, it's something I'm actively working on.
44:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
44:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'd love to hear what you have to advise people to do that.
44:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
44:49
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Because for somebody who used to have a ton of hobbies and drop them all, like hot potatoes along the way.
44:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
44:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I don't know what to do with myself now.
44:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I was like, what do I even start with?
44:57
Sarah Centrella: Exactly.
44:58
Sarah Centrella: No, I would say that is the reaction I get almost a hundred percent of the time when I first wrote Hustle, believe, receive, I did a book tour and I was explaining the five categories or whatever, and I used to call them hobbies.
45:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
45:09
Sarah Centrella: The whole, like the whole room is just like.
45:12
Sarah Centrella: Huh?
45:13
Sarah Centrella: What does that mean?
45:14
Sarah Centrella: Like,
45:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: yeah,
45:15
Sarah Centrella: like what's, who has time for a hobby?
45:17
Sarah Centrella: My kids do hobbies, right?
45:19
Sarah Centrella: And so I changed it to passions and joys.
45:21
Sarah Centrella: 'cause I was like, you know, gotta gotta work with what we have.
45:24
Sarah Centrella: But I think if you can take a moment and say, throughout my life, and probably go back to childhood, that's usually where people can kind of reengage in something that brings them joy.
45:34
Sarah Centrella: Say, what did I used to do that I just.
45:38
Sarah Centrella: Did it'cause I loved it.
45:39
Sarah Centrella: 'cause I really looked forward to it.
45:40
Sarah Centrella: 'cause it was really fun.
45:41
Sarah Centrella: And for me, when I was a kid, I had a horse and I used to be obsessed with horses and I loved horses.
45:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
45:48
Sarah Centrella: And as an adult, I've never ridden a horse or really been around a horse.
45:52
Sarah Centrella: So when I started looking at this, I was like.
45:55
Sarah Centrella: Maybe horses would still bring me joy.
45:56
Sarah Centrella: And so we go out to the ranch about five miles from here and volunteer and we just like brush the horses and talk to the horses and feed the horses like, you know, and it's this great little one hour a week that's just like total zen.
46:11
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
46:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Total
46:12
Sarah Centrella: checkout, you know, brings back kind of that feeling of childhood joy again is something very simple, but it's a way that I can integrate that into my life now and still get that benefit.
46:23
Sarah Centrella: Another one for me when I came back from Italy was cooking.
46:25
Sarah Centrella: I was like, oh, I see the passion for food and like, I want that type of mom.
46:29
Sarah Centrella: I wanna teach my kids to love food like that.
46:31
Sarah Centrella: And so I just did.
46:33
Sarah Centrella: I came back and I started cooking and I wasn't great at it.
46:36
Sarah Centrella: And I just kept going, kept going, and then I started getting better at it.
46:39
Sarah Centrella: And that's the part of the passions and joys that is really key.
46:43
Sarah Centrella: If you can pick something, whatever it is.
46:45
Sarah Centrella: Could be dancing.
46:46
Sarah Centrella: Could be, yeah.
46:46
Sarah Centrella: Gardening could be DIY.
46:48
Sarah Centrella: It doesn't matter.
46:49
Sarah Centrella: But it's typically a doing.
46:50
Sarah Centrella: So it's an activity with your hands or with your body, right?
46:53
Sarah Centrella: And it's something that you will get better at over time.
46:56
Sarah Centrella: So that's an important component to it.
46:57
Sarah Centrella: Just like we understand as moms that it's important our kids go through that, right?
47:02
Sarah Centrella: That is why we put them in all the activities we put them in.
47:05
Sarah Centrella: Yes.
47:05
Sarah Centrella: Because we wanna teach them how to get better at something over time.
47:08
Sarah Centrella: Because that builds confidence.
47:10
Sarah Centrella: Mm-hmm.
47:10
Sarah Centrella: Right.
47:10
Sarah Centrella: It builds self-esteem, it does all these things.
47:13
Sarah Centrella: But we forget to do that for ourselves, right?
47:15
Sarah Centrella: If you always wanted to take a cooking class, the first couple cooking classes, you probably are not gonna like it.
47:20
Sarah Centrella: Just like your kid did not like soccer when they started soccer, right?
47:23
Sarah Centrella: And what did you tell them?
47:24
Sarah Centrella: Keep going.
47:25
Sarah Centrella: Just go this year if you hated them, what?
47:27
Sarah Centrella: Right.
47:27
Sarah Centrella: Then we'll stop.
47:28
Sarah Centrella: Do the same thing with yourself, right?
47:30
Sarah Centrella: Say, I'm gonna sign up for 12 cooking classes.
47:32
Sarah Centrella: And I'm gonna show up for all 12.
47:34
Sarah Centrella: And if after that, I never wanna touch a pan again.
47:37
Sarah Centrella: Cool.
47:37
Sarah Centrella: That wasn't for me.
47:38
Sarah Centrella: But my guess is you'll get better over time and you'll actually start to find that pocket of joy.
47:43
Sarah Centrella: And those are the pieces that we're missing in our life.
47:46
Sarah Centrella: So it just takes a little experimenting at first.
47:50
Sarah Centrella: I've had clients who, started playing guitar.
47:52
Sarah Centrella: And that was kind of their one thing that they had put off their whole life and just started bringing back in.
47:57
Sarah Centrella: Got a little online tutor and, you know, two years later playing guitar and really love it.
48:02
Sarah Centrella: And that's a de-stressor for them, you know?
48:04
Sarah Centrella: So it could be anything.
48:05
Sarah Centrella: It could be golf, it could be, I try to stay away from exercise'cause that's has its own category.
48:10
Sarah Centrella: We need to keep them separate, but this is really something that.
48:13
Sarah Centrella: That brings you joy that you can see get better over time, that you get satisfaction from.
48:18
Sarah Centrella: You build something, you feel satisfied.
48:20
Sarah Centrella: When you weed a garden, you feel satisfied.
48:22
Sarah Centrella: It takes a little bit of creative thinking.
48:25
Sarah Centrella: But start with what I liked as a kid, as a teenager, even in my early twenties.
48:30
Sarah Centrella: And then if you're still struggling, go try those things again.
48:32
Sarah Centrella: Like one at a time.
48:34
Sarah Centrella: And if you're still struggling, then think like, what have I seen on TV?
48:38
Sarah Centrella: Or you know, in books or movies that seemed really cool.
48:42
Sarah Centrella: And then we give that a try, right?
48:44
Sarah Centrella: And we just, we keep trying new things and it's so good for your brain.
48:48
Sarah Centrella: It's so good for all of your motor cognition.
48:51
Sarah Centrella: It's so good for all of it, right?
48:52
Sarah Centrella: It helps you feel young, keeps you young.
48:55
Sarah Centrella: Most importantly, it becomes this tool that.
48:58
Sarah Centrella: Allows you to have a pure pocket in your life, whether it's an hour, half, hour, whatever, that that pure focus of the doing forces you to block out everything else, the stress, the whatever.
49:13
Sarah Centrella: So it becomes almost an act of meditation.
49:15
Sarah Centrella: And those are the types of things we don't do.
49:17
Sarah Centrella: And then we wonder why we're so fricking stressed.
49:19
Sarah Centrella: Anything that like lets it go.
49:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
49:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's so funny that you say that.
49:23
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: 'cause I was thinking back to my mom when I was little, she put me in sewing lessons, right?
49:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
49:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And she put my sisters and stuff, and my sisters didn't really love it, but I loved it with a passion to the point where like, I did some costuming for some Oh, I love that.
49:38
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: School and high school.
49:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And then, when we were in medical school, we had a winter formal.
49:44
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And, you know, you're, when you're a med student, you're, yeah.
49:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And so like the last few years I made dresses for some of my Oh, love that.
49:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It was just, it was something that was like very meditative to me.
49:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yep.
49:55
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I remember I was sitting for my first board exam in medical school, which is called the US Emily.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
50:00
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And it's one of the hardest ones.
50:02
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: You've never sat for an exam like that in your life, so you don't really know what to expect.
50:05
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right, right.
50:06
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Very different than anything you took in college.
50:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I was so stressed.
50:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I remember I was just like beyond.
50:12
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like out of my mind.
50:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah.
50:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And my mom knew, right?
50:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So she called and she said, well, I want you to go to Sears.
50:19
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: 'cause at that time, there were Sears everywhere.
50:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And I have something for you there that you're gonna go pick up and they're gonna tell you to go to the next door.
50:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And so she got me a sewing machine and she, I love her for the fabric, right?
50:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And she, she was like, you're gonna take the day off and go do a project and get de-stress and then you're gonna go back to your studying.
50:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Right?
50:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Like, you just need a, yeah.
50:41
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: A solid break in there.
50:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So yeah, so maybe that's the thing I'd go back to.
50:45
Sarah Centrella: Brilliant.
50:46
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Now that I'm talking about it, I'm talking myself into like busting out my sewing machine and my serger.
50:50
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Exactly.
50:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah,
50:51
Sarah Centrella: absolutely.
50:51
Sarah Centrella: Do it and, and, and don't, the big thing is like, I think a lot of times we have a tendency to over estimate.
51:00
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
51:00
Sarah Centrella: You know, or, or set goals that are unreachable.
51:04
Sarah Centrella: I don't know why we love doing that, but we love doing that.
51:06
Sarah Centrella: I always say dream huge, dream unrealistic.
51:09
Sarah Centrella: But go do your goals the other way around.
51:11
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
51:11
Sarah Centrella: Do your goals in little tiny bits and pieces.
51:13
Sarah Centrella: Yep.
51:13
Sarah Centrella: So that every time you sit down to do it, you're winning.
51:17
Sarah Centrella: And the only thing you're looking for there is can I just pull it out for 30 minutes and just like have fun with it?
51:23
Sarah Centrella: See if I remember how to like thread the needle and Yeah.
51:26
Sarah Centrella: Pull out some patterns and, and then when you're done, just ask yourself like, was I thinking about all the other stuff?
51:33
Sarah Centrella: And you'll just start to really see like, oh, I get it now.
51:37
Sarah Centrella: Yeah.
51:37
Sarah Centrella: Like I wasn't stressed about work.
51:39
Sarah Centrella: I wasn't stressed about whatever's going on in my life.
51:41
Sarah Centrella: I was actually focused, which, yep, active meditation.
51:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So
51:45
Sarah Centrella: I love that and I definitely challenge you to pull it back.
51:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Okay, well I'll, I'll send you what I may, I'll show you what I may, I love
51:52
Sarah Centrella: it.
51:52
Sarah Centrella: I'll send
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: you a photo.
51:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'll like what?
51:53
Sarah Centrella: Start sending, I'm sending you patterns, girl.
51:56
Sarah Centrella: Yeah,
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: please do.
51:58
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I actually wanna go find like vintage patterns because I love fashion and clothes and just see if I can find like any vintage patterns and maybe make something outta, oh my God, like a
52:07
Sarah Centrella: 1940s like flare dress.
52:09
Sarah Centrella: I'd be so with pockets.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes, with pockets, pockets are crucial.
52:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes.
52:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Always.
52:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yes and custom tailored.
52:16
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: One of my big gripes, and this is a very random aside, is how can men can go into, like, I know, apply and get measured and walk out looking like a million bucks in an hour and I'm.
52:27
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Walking through the racks at like Nordstrom or like whatever other store I'm at in the mall, and like an hour later I have Yeah, exactly.
52:37
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I They do tailor.
52:38
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: They do tailor, right.
52:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But it's, uh, it's a, a different process I think than, yeah.
52:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So, no, I,
52:44
Sarah Centrella: I love it.
52:45
Sarah Centrella: I think that, that, I think you're going to see definitely that little benefit.
52:50
Sarah Centrella: And then you just.
52:51
Sarah Centrella: See if you can do it for half hour, an hour a week initially.
52:54
Sarah Centrella: Just be like, Hey, okay, sit down.
52:55
Sarah Centrella: And then as it, you know, as you get better, you get more passionate about it, and you have more, you make more time for it, right?
53:02
Sarah Centrella: And then you'll really, really start to see the benefit.
53:04
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Okay.
53:05
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: All right.
53:06
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Well, I will report back to you and to our listeners about what my output was from my sewing machine.
53:11
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I love it.
53:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you so much.
53:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: This has been such a fabulous conversation.
53:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I feel like you and I could talk for hours, which we kind of did, did at the pool side anyway.
53:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: But, uh, I just, I just wanna say thank you for coming on here and sharing your thoughts and how you managed to change your life in such an inspiring way.
53:30
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Aw.
53:31
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I knew it from the moment that I met you, that you were a special person, and then learning more about what you do and getting to know you over these last several weeks.
53:39
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I, I just feel so blessed to have you in my life and should so thank you.
53:43
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you for being, feeling is mute.
53:45
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: For our listeners, Sarah is hosting a series of book events.
53:50
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Mm-hmm.
53:50
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: When her book comes out, I believe it's January Yeah.
53:53
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Of 2026.
53:54
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: She's going to be having an event here in Seattle.
53:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's at sarah centrella.com.
53:59
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And if you are not in the Pacific Northwest, there are events around the country.
54:04
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: That are associated with her book release, you get to meet her in person.
54:07
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Do you wanna talk a little bit about what the events will be like?
54:10
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Yeah, because I registered, I'm ready to go.
54:12
Sarah Centrella: I love it.
54:13
Sarah Centrella: Yeah, they are mindset workshops.
54:14
Sarah Centrella: So I'm gonna be actually teaching the tools that are in my new book.
54:18
Sarah Centrella: Think It.
54:19
Sarah Centrella: They're four hour workshops, so you're really gonna come in, bring a notepad, bring a pen, and I'm gonna teach you how to not only, you know, do mental tennis, but.
54:28
Sarah Centrella: There I have seven tools total, that are brain trainers.
54:32
Sarah Centrella: Train your brain just like mental, you know, mental fitness is the new self-care.
54:36
Sarah Centrella: I always say it is the thing that will impact every aspect of your life the quickest.
54:41
Sarah Centrella: And just make the biggest impact.
54:44
Sarah Centrella: So, yeah, come, I can't, I have one in Portland, and Seattle, and then 15 other cities across the country.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you Sarah.
54:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Have a great rest of your day and I will look forward to connecting with you soon.
54:56
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: To all our listeners, again, you can find everything you need to know about sarahcentrella.com.
55:01
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'll link that below in the show notes as well as links to her books that are coming out and the one that you can pre-order for a January release, which is called Think It.
55:08
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Have a great day everyone, and I'll see you on the next episode.
55:11
Sarah Centrella: Thanks Komal.
55:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Hi everyone.
55:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: It's me again.
55:14
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Wasn't that a fabulous episode?
55:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I just really loved chatting with Sarah and hearing everything that she had to say, and I'm so excited for the release of her upcoming book and her event here in Seattle.
55:26
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I hope that you are able to make it out there.
55:28
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I'd love to meet you in real life, and I think it would be great for all of us to learn from her.
55:32
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I learned so much recording this episode.
55:34
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I learned about mental tennis and how to turn around thoughts and make them from negative to positive.
55:40
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I didn't realize we had 70 to 80,000 thoughts that were just bubbling up for us per day, and how many of'em were negative.
55:47
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: So I hope that you took that away.
55:48
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Second, this concept of future boards.
55:51
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I love it.
55:52
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I am looking at making my own to see just what I can manifest.
55:57
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I think harnessing that power in whatever stage of life you're in can be so empowering.
56:03
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And then I wanted to recap about Sarah's Centrella method, which focuses on five key areas of your life as you're trying to manifest what you want for your future.
56:13
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Number one, relationships.
56:15
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Number two, career and ambitions.
56:17
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Number three, wealth and abundance.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Number four, mind and body.
56:21
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: And number five, passion and joys.
56:22
Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: I really hope that you all got as much out of this episode as I did.
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Dr. Komal Patil-Sisodia: Thank you for your support.