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Cancelled, Transitioning & My mind has changed.. 🤔 · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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  Speaker 1: Apoday production.
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  Speaker 2: We begin today by acknowledging the traditional custodians of the
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  Speaker 2: land on which we gather today and pay our respects
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  Speaker 2: to their elders past and present. We extend that respect
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  Speaker 2: to Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people's here today.
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  Speaker 3: Welcome to the Grow and Glow Podcast. I'm Ashy, I'm Kiara.
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  Speaker 3: This is a podcast where we learn, laugh, and level
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  Speaker 3: up together. Let's go deep, let.
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  Speaker 1: The emotions flow, and find the lessons to grow and glow.
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  Speaker 1: Nothing is off the table with Grow and Glow, and
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  Speaker 1: we're here to be your expander. Welcome back to the show.
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  Speaker 3: Guys, Welcome back to Grill and Hello.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah we don't want that, no way.
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  Speaker 1: Let's get straight into our share of the week.
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  Speaker 3: What did you?
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  Speaker 1: I know you've got quite a few up.
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  Speaker 3: I don't know where to start today.
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  Speaker 1: She's like this and this and this.
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  Speaker 3: I know, bloody TikTok.
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  Speaker 1: It gets me all the time.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're going to share my favorite one first,
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  Speaker 3: the false Scara, because I've had a few people messaging
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  Speaker 3: me asking what have you done with your lashes? What
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  Speaker 3: mascara are you wearing? And the reason I really like
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  Speaker 3: it is because it looks so natural that you do.
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  Speaker 1: Have really good lashes, but these look just even better.
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  Speaker 3: And you just don't have to do them, and because
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  Speaker 3: mine is so light and I can't have die on
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  Speaker 3: my eyelashes. It's just so easy, guys. So they're called
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  Speaker 3: false scara. The brand that I use is kiss and
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  Speaker 3: you can get it at Priceline. They're basically like little
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  Speaker 3: false slashes that you put underneath your eyelash instead of
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  Speaker 3: on top. And I was a little bit like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: how am I going to go doing this because I'm
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  Speaker 3: like ashy were chatting about it, and I was like,
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  Speaker 3: I don't wear fake lashes.
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  Speaker 1: Can't put them on myself either, No.
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  Speaker 3: But it was really nice and easy. It almost magnetized it.
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  Speaker 3: So you put the bond down and it just like goes.
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  Speaker 3: You look like straight in on it.
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  Speaker 1: What if you put it on the wrong spot, you
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  Speaker 1: just peel.
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  Speaker 3: It off and you gotta seal that you put on
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  Speaker 3: afterwards so you can get them in the right place first.
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  Speaker 1: Genius.
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  Speaker 3: But it's so good. It lasts like seven to ten.
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  Speaker 1: Days, and then what happens. They just fall off with you.
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  Speaker 3: You've got a remover, so you put the remover stuff
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  Speaker 3: on and just peel them off and then you put
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  Speaker 3: a new set on. So yeah, you've got to be
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  Speaker 3: a little bit careful. Like when I'm in the shower,
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  Speaker 3: I'll just kind of wash my face like around them
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  Speaker 3: all like rub my hands over it. But just so
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  Speaker 3: nice and convenient, so easy, and I feel like they
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  Speaker 3: look really nice and effective.
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  Speaker 1: So natural. Love, Yeah, we love.
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  Speaker 3: What's your Share of the Week?
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  Speaker 1: Mine is a TV show or Cold Presumed Innocence. The
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  Speaker 1: episodes are coming out weekly, which is really annoying because
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  Speaker 1: you just want to, like binge watch a ton of them.
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  Speaker 1: It's on Apple TV. But it's such a good series.
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  Speaker 1: It's a crime one where a lawyer is having an
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  Speaker 1: affair and then he gets accused of the woman's murder.
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  Speaker 1: Oh okay, and just the twists and turns, relationship dynamics.
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  Speaker 1: It's really like edge of your seat. Every single epis
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  Speaker 1: you see. I really really enjoy it. So I'm still
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  Speaker 1: like going through it because it comes out each week,
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  Speaker 1: but highly recommend it. Oh that's good. It's on Apple
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  Speaker 1: on Apple Okay, alrighty, well, let's get into the episode today.
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  Speaker 1: We just thought we'd do a massive catch up. There's
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  Speaker 1: so many like little bits and pieces that we speak
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  Speaker 1: about in other episodes, but we thought we'd do one
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  Speaker 1: big catch up of everything that's been going on. Everything
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  Speaker 1: we're feeling, the big changes that's been happening. You're feeling
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  Speaker 1: like you've had some massive shifts in your internal world.
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  Speaker 1: Do you want to start?
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  Speaker 3: Really, I'm feeling really good. Yeah, really high vibe, I
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  Speaker 3: said to Ashley on the way up here. I just
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  Speaker 3: feel like I'm really in this transitional stage right now
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  Speaker 3: where I feel like when I first had Miller, I've
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  Speaker 3: was kind of like almost huddled away. I was in
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  Speaker 3: my real mum zone. And lately, you know, I guess
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  Speaker 3: it's tapping into that feminine energy and doing that work
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  Speaker 3: as well. But I'm really just like wanting to find
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  Speaker 3: my sisterhood more and like surround myself with more like
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  Speaker 3: minded women. I literally jumped on my stories this morning
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, anyone who's local and around my
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  Speaker 3: area wants to catch up and go for like a
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  Speaker 3: big walk or you know, come to a dance class,
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  Speaker 3: just all be able to jump in there and say
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  Speaker 3: like what we're up to, what we doing and if
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  Speaker 3: we can make it, we can make it, we can't,
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  Speaker 3: we can't. There's no stress, nice and easy, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: I'm feeling like I'm really just in like just vibing
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  Speaker 3: being around amazing women.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and I feel like, yeah, this whole year, you've
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  Speaker 1: really stepped outside your comfort zone and stretch your capacity
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  Speaker 1: to be able to do more and be away from
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  Speaker 1: your bubble, which is really nice. I have.
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  Speaker 3: I definitely feel like I have. Yeah, definitely like traveled
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  Speaker 3: a little bit more. Even if it's just like you know,
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  Speaker 3: night Stacey and night stays there. I feel like I
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  Speaker 3: never ever really did that, and even just like doing
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  Speaker 3: that this morning, like that's outside of my comfort zone.
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  Speaker 3: Like it is putting yourself out.
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  Speaker 1: That's what I've got.
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  Speaker 3: And I were talking about friendships on the way up here,
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  Speaker 3: and you know how she met her friend at the
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  Speaker 3: gym and she like kept walking past her and like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: like do I say hello? Do I not? Like, you know,
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  Speaker 3: do I tell her like let's hang out? But it's
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  Speaker 3: that first step, it is it's nerve wracking.
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  Speaker 1: And I remember walking past my Girlfriendsian, and I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: just go say hello, Like what have you got to lose? Like,
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  Speaker 1: we obviously feel pulled towards each other because we keep
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  Speaker 1: bumping into each other, and now we're so close. It's
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  Speaker 1: like we've known each other for years. We feel so
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  Speaker 1: safe with each other. Our conversations are just we can
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  Speaker 1: go really deep, but we're also very playful with each other.
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  Speaker 1: It's just so nice, such a nice relationshipful. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: can't wait to like you or meet her, but you do.
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  Speaker 1: You have to put yourself out there. I could have
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  Speaker 1: walked straight past her. Again, I was like, no, be brave,
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  Speaker 1: just go and say hi.
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  Speaker 3: And that's the easy, comfortable thing to do, is to
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  Speaker 3: just like keep walking past.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. Yeah, you did a whole episode ages ago on
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  Speaker 1: making like female friendships, and you really do have to
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  Speaker 1: put yourself out there. They're not just going to fall
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  Speaker 1: in your lap or rock up to your house. I
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  Speaker 1: mean I did to you. But you have to be
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  Speaker 1: opened both ways.
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  Speaker 3: You have to be open to like put it out
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  Speaker 3: there and then open to be like, yeah, come on over,
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  Speaker 3: what do you want to do. Let's catch up, let's
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  Speaker 3: set a date.
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  Speaker 1: And I also be open to like, you might not
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  Speaker 1: connect or might not vibe, and that's okay. And I
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  Speaker 1: said that to Kiara too. I said, I've got a
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  Speaker 1: bit protected when you put that grip. I was like,
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  Speaker 1: hope you don't get someone that I don't know, just
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  Speaker 1: it's mean to you, or like just the line and
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  Speaker 1: you feel bad for them or I don't know. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but I feel like when you're in a good vibration,
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  Speaker 1: you attract.
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  Speaker 3: Definitely more people too. Yeah, And I said to Ash
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  Speaker 3: you too, because you know a lot of it's like, hey,
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna go to Monday dance class. If you want
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  Speaker 3: to come, you can come. Just meet up, hold each
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  Speaker 3: other accountable.
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  Speaker 1: You know, it's nice to have company.
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  Speaker 3: What have you got going on? Back?
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  Speaker 1: So obviously not obviously might not all catch up with
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  Speaker 1: my socials, but my surgery got canceled. So you could
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  Speaker 1: have listened to an episode where I was like, I'm
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  Speaker 1: going into surgery this week. I went to hospital and
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  Speaker 1: really mentally prepared give myself up, like I was counting
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  Speaker 1: down the months, the weeks, the days, and then the hours.
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  Speaker 1: I had to go into hospital the night, all the
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  Speaker 1: afternoon before at one o'clock, I had to fast from
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  Speaker 1: six o'clock, had to be loaded up on blood thinners
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  Speaker 1: and aspirin, and I was meant to be first in surgery,
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  Speaker 1: so I'd get wheeled down around seven o'clock in the morning.
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  Speaker 1: So they said, if your family wants to come and
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  Speaker 1: say like, why do you before you go in, get
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  Speaker 1: them to come at six thirty. So Stephen Taje came,
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  Speaker 1: got to eight o'clock, got to nine o'clock and I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: there must have just been a delay or an emergency
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  Speaker 1: come in or whatever. Got to ten o'clock and taj
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  Speaker 1: had an even breakfast at this point, so he's like,
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  Speaker 1: I'm starving. I feel so sick, and Steve's like, shit,
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  Speaker 1: like do I go or what? I was like, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: take him to goat Brecky and hopefully I've either gone
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  Speaker 1: through or when you know, if you come back. Haven't.
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  Speaker 1: Got to two o'clock in the afternoon and a doctor
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  Speaker 1: comes through and he's like, I'm so sorry, like there's
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  Speaker 1: no ICU beds and because after brain surgery you have
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  Speaker 1: to be an ic you for twenty four hours. And
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  Speaker 1: at first I was kind of crazy. I was like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: no worries do I just like stay another night and
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  Speaker 1: go in tomorrow. He's like, no, your surgery is canceled,
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  Speaker 1: which means we don't have a further date. I'm like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: so I've just fasted for over twenty four hours now
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  Speaker 1: and had this needle in my arm all night, slept terribly.
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  Speaker 1: And then the poor lady next to me, we were
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  Speaker 1: sharing a room. She was from northern New South Wales,
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  Speaker 1: so she had like driven all the way up here.
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  Speaker 1: Family booked accommodation so they'd come like visit her, taking
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  Speaker 1: time off work. She'd pay someone to look after her dog,
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  Speaker 1: and like, we had no answers to when our surgery
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  Speaker 1: will be. So she was so mad and so frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: I was too, But I like, obviously the doctors they're
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  Speaker 1: just some messengers. They can't control it. And this is
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  Speaker 1: the thing. It's ic you Like, there's car accidents, they
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  Speaker 1: were stabbing, drug overdoses. Like people need the beds, they
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  Speaker 1: need the beds. There just isn't enough beds in public hospitals.
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  Speaker 1: I had quite a few people actually swipe up to
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  Speaker 1: being like, oh my god, I'm so shocked you're going
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  Speaker 1: through the public system. I think people think like if
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  Speaker 1: you have money that you would never use a public system.
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  Speaker 1: And I do have private health insurance and I will
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  Speaker 1: be covered to a certain degree if I decided to
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  Speaker 1: go private. But when I first went to the doctor,
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  Speaker 1: he sent me to golcros Union Hospital because it has
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  Speaker 1: the best neurology team and the surgeon that I've got.
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  Speaker 1: She's the head of the neurology team. Like, she's the
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  Speaker 1: best of the best. So I don't want to go private.
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  Speaker 1: I don't want to have to go find a new surgeon.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, this lady, I feel comfortable.
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  Speaker 1: I feel comfortable. I've sat down with her, Steve's met her.
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  Speaker 1: She answered a million questions, she wrote out all these
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  Speaker 1: like drew all these diagrams for me, she showed me
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  Speaker 1: pictures on the internet, and like really explained everything really thoroughly.
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  Speaker 1: I just feel so safe with her. Yeah, but the
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  Speaker 1: issue is with private, I would go in and it
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  Speaker 1: wouldn't be canceled, yes, whereas public it's very highly likely
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  Speaker 1: it'll be canceled.
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  Speaker 3: Again, did you know that before going in? I was
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  Speaker 3: gonna say, I feel like it was just so unexpected,
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  Speaker 3: Like when you spoke to me about it, I didn't
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  Speaker 3: know if you knew that there was a chance of
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  Speaker 3: that even happening.
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  Speaker 1: Someone had told me, but I honestly thought, in my
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  Speaker 1: guy it would be delayed. So I was prepping myself
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  Speaker 1: not to eat all day or not to go in
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  Speaker 1: surgery that day, but be the next day all the
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  Speaker 1: day after. Yeah, So I think I mentally prepared for that.
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  Speaker 1: But when he said you're canceled and we don't have
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  Speaker 1: a further date, I was like, what do I do?
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  Speaker 1: And to be honest, it was a bit of a
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  Speaker 1: mission to get in contact with someone after that, Like,
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  Speaker 1: no one calls you. I called five times that got
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  Speaker 1: hung up on. They put me through to different departments,
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  Speaker 1: no one could give me answers. I was really frustrated.
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  Speaker 1: And then they send you a text message with the
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  Speaker 1: date and then I called and just wanted to chat
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  Speaker 1: about it more. I could go in again, and this
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  Speaker 1: could happen again if a massive car accident happens and
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  Speaker 1: six people need to ICU bed and then there's three
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  Speaker 1: drug overdoses that come in, like you just don't know.
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  Speaker 1: I honestly felt like I was very mentally prepared for surgery.
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  Speaker 1: I was not mentally prepared to have to go through
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  Speaker 1: the mental preparation again. Yeah, so after that, I kind
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  Speaker 1: of went in a downward spiral. I was not good
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  Speaker 1: for a good couple of days. I felt really angry,
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  Speaker 1: really frustrated. I was just like antsy, like I just
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  Speaker 1: felt like in limbo.
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  Speaker 3: Because you didn't have any data anything.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I got a date. A switch flicked and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, Okay, I've got my date, which is great,
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  Speaker 1: but I also have a choice whether I keep being
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  Speaker 1: in this funk and like feeling angry and annoyed, and
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  Speaker 1: also anyone listening to you feel it's always a negative
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  Speaker 1: nancy that comes at me. I know this is no
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  Speaker 1: one's fault. Whoever needs the beds needs the bed. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't to do with anyone else. Like I get the
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  Speaker 1: hospital was doing the absolute best that they can. But
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  Speaker 1: I'm still a human. I'm not a robot that doesn't
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  Speaker 1: feel anything. And I had to have that conversation with
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  Speaker 1: a couple of women that were like, oh, you're so ungrateful,
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  Speaker 1: like obviously someone else needs the bed more than you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, for sure, but I'm still allowed to
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  Speaker 1: be frustrated.
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 1: So then I got my date and I was like, Okay,
• 10:40
  Speaker 1: had a little internal conversation with myself. It was like,
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  Speaker 1: you've got two choices. You can go back to being
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  Speaker 1: a victim and like feeling angry and annoyed and like frustrated,
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  Speaker 1: or live your life, deal with surgery when it comes.
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  Speaker 1: Just keep on living, make every day amazing, find joining
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  Speaker 1: the moments, and just live your life as is. Because
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  Speaker 1: imagic he's got canceled five times and I stayed in
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  Speaker 1: that funk the whole time. That'd be six months of
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  Speaker 1: my life just feeling shit. I was like, I refuse
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  Speaker 1: to do that again. My pity party, had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of days of feling shit, and once I decided that,
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  Speaker 1: I felt so good ever since, Oh that's so good.
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  Speaker 1: I definitely didn't realize how much it affects my sleep though.
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  Speaker 1: I was talking to Levi about it, and he was like,
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  Speaker 1: if you've got something that's going on in your world
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  Speaker 1: that's quite big. When you try to go to sleep
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  Speaker 1: a night, it's like your nervous system's like, ha ha,
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  Speaker 1: how do I'm here? Like, don't relax because you've got
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  Speaker 1: this to worry about, Like this is a threat, this
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  Speaker 1: is scary, this is not safe. So it's in the
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  Speaker 1: back of my mind all the time, and my sleep's
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  Speaker 1: been broken for months, so I'm consistently exhausted yesterday. I
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  Speaker 1: do this often now. I pull over my car after
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  Speaker 1: eat and retreat and I transition from work or just
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: my day before I go into mum life. So I
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  Speaker 1: want to go on with a beautiful calm energy, tap
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  Speaker 1: into my femine energy, and I put a meditation. I
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  Speaker 1: pulled over to this spot. I actually found this gorgeous
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  Speaker 1: little nature patch that I go and sit up, But
• 11:53
  Speaker 1: there was a creepy old man there, so I just
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  Speaker 1: stayed in my car put on a twelve minute meditation.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't tell you what the meditation's about. I fell
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  Speaker 1: asleep in my car. I don't remember what they said
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  Speaker 1: at the start. I don't remember it finishing, and I slept,
• 12:05
  Speaker 1: like how long do you sleep for?
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  Speaker 2: Oh?
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  Speaker 1: Probably about half an hour.
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  Speaker 3: This is so hectic. Yeah, you need to do it more. Oh,
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  Speaker 3: because obviously your body's needing it. I know, And I
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  Speaker 3: was not convenient.
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  Speaker 1: Not convenient. And also this is this whole transition of
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  Speaker 1: working so hard for so long. This is where I'm
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  Speaker 1: like feeling the resistance of resting. And I don't know
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  Speaker 1: if I feel guilty. I'm just so used to always
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  Speaker 1: doing something and being productive that it feels really uncomfortable
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  Speaker 1: to actually stop and do nothing to the point that
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  Speaker 1: I fall asleep.
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  Speaker 3: You know what, You're probably running off adrenaline a lot
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  Speaker 3: of the time, babe, and now that you've actually stopped,
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  Speaker 3: your body's like catching up as well. So now that's
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  Speaker 3: why you're needing those rests in the middle of the day,
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  Speaker 3: and that because your body is like I need this.
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  Speaker 1: I find it frustrating. I've never been like this in
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  Speaker 1: my life. I've always been the energized bunny, like ready
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  Speaker 1: for anything, can handle a million things. And now honestly
• 12:58
  Speaker 1: gets to like twelve one o'clock and I am fading cooked,
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  Speaker 1: Like I'm absolutely cooked. It's every day, and I'm sick
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  Speaker 1: of complaining about it. Like Steve be like, how is
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  Speaker 1: your day? I'm like, good, but I'm fucking tired again.
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  Speaker 3: Give in.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I've been having I should have bought something. You've
• 13:13
  Speaker 1: been having ci moss in the afternoon. Approbably, it's amazing
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: for energy. So I've been having that. I feel like
• 13:17
  Speaker 1: that kind of ties me over a little bit.
• 13:19
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 13:19
  Speaker 1: And I suppose when you're home with the kids, like
• 13:21
  Speaker 1: they're so full on. They kind of wake you up.
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: But I'm also setting a new boundary. I was going
• 13:25
  Speaker 1: to a bed at nine thirty. I'm going to be
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: at eight thirty hour yep.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: So yeah, I find even if I don't nap in
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: the day, but if I go for half an hour
• 13:32
  Speaker 3: and close all the blinds and put meditation music on
• 13:35
  Speaker 3: and just lay down, you're still having a depp rest exactly. Yeah.
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: So nice, it's so neat.
• 13:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 13:41
  Speaker 1: So yeah, just I wanted to share that because if
• 13:43
  Speaker 1: there's any other women out there, you just feel constantly exhausted.
• 13:46
  Speaker 1: I just don't think we're going to bring this up
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: in another podcast episode, but I just don't think this
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: modern day society is supporting women enough. Like back in
• 13:55
  Speaker 1: the day, if you got your period, like back in
• 13:56
  Speaker 1: the caveman days, you're hidden in a dark cave for
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: three days, like bleeding, laying down, resting. The village's taking
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: care of you. The men are outrod like you actually
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: get to fully rest. We're so busy all the time
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: being parents.
• 14:11
  Speaker 3: Like switch off and go. I'm just going to take
• 14:12
  Speaker 3: three days in this modern day.
• 14:14
  Speaker 1: Worldway and it's the top of that, Like not only
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: we fought for all these women's rights and equal rights whatever,
• 14:19
  Speaker 1: but to the detriment of like we're doing all those
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: roles plus all the things that we used to do
• 14:23
  Speaker 1: as well, there's actually no break for anyone.
• 14:26
  Speaker 3: Plus being wide in and attached to our kids. Speak
• 14:29
  Speaker 3: about that you've got all those elements that you've.
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: Got, Yeah, plugged kids, plugged into social media, plugged into work,
• 14:34
  Speaker 1: plugged into your husband, plugged into all the tasks.
• 14:37
  Speaker 3: And to do list is and then want us to
• 14:38
  Speaker 3: be soft and calm and flowing, and we wonder why
• 14:41
  Speaker 3: we so hard.
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: So I've hired and you coach. Her name's Connie. She's beautiful,
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: Connie Chapman. Yeah. So my first session is on Friday
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: with her. But I've had like a discovery call with
• 14:52
  Speaker 1: her and I've had to fill out like a little
• 14:54
  Speaker 1: workbook as to what I want to get out of
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: the three months with her. And it was just to
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: be able to be softer and slower without any resistance
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: because I don't know if guilt's the word. I feel.
• 15:03
  Speaker 3: It's just, yeah, there's resist It's uncomfortable, maybe.
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: A little bit uncomfortable, Like I enjoy it when I'm
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: doing it, but I feel like there's so many other
• 15:10
  Speaker 1: things that I could be doing or should be doing. Yeah,
• 15:13
  Speaker 1: but they can wait. Like I logically understand that, but
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: my physical body wants to do what it's always done
• 15:18
  Speaker 1: because that's comfortable to me. It's comfortably busy. It's creating
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: any normal yeah, even Like I know it sounds silly,
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: but I was sitting with Taala and playing with her
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and she's pranced around doing a thing. I
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: enjoy having the washing there to fold, but I'm like,
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: I'm still doing something. So I'm like aware of like, oh,
• 15:35
  Speaker 1: you can't actually just like just chill like when she's playing.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Such good self awareness though too.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Yeah, might I add like when she's playing and she's
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: good at playing by herself, like I don't always have
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: to like occupy her, but I could just sit and
• 15:48
  Speaker 1: watch hers. I'm like, oh, washing needs doing, I'll do
• 15:50
  Speaker 1: that while I do that multitask. Yeah. So I'm trying
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: to like rewire and do things differently. But it's tricky.
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: It is tricky. Yeah, you're gonna have to keep catching
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: yourself out.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: It's going to argon. It's going to take me a
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: good six months.
• 16:02
  Speaker 3: Maybe how many years have you been.
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: That's the thing I've worked since I was thirteen. I
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: was out of home since I was sixteen. I have
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: never stopped. Yeah, like even when I go on holidays,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I don't have holidays where I'm not working. I love
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: my work. It's not like it's hard labor and it's
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: like it's plugged in. Yeah, it's the mental load. It's
• 16:21
  Speaker 1: being on all the time. So yeah, I'm just really exhausted.
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: But my surgeries booked for August thirteenth, So go to
• 16:27
  Speaker 1: Barley next week and then come back. I've got the
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: Ultimate Girl's day out on the Sunday. Yeah, I go
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: into hospital on the Monday and surgeries on the Tuesday.
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: Oh shivers. Yeah that's all close together.
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: I know. Wow, a bit of time away from the kids.
• 16:39
  Speaker 3: You're probably nice though in a way. Yeah, time away
• 16:41
  Speaker 3: from the kids at me, you'll feel that. But to
• 16:44
  Speaker 3: come back from the Ultimate girls Out and then be
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: able to just like relax that next day in the
• 16:47
  Speaker 3: hospital probably be you know.
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: So fingers crossed, it goes ahead.
• 16:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, fingers and toes and everything crossed.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: For your bab. Yeah.
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: Can you believe that Lincoln is six?
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: Oh my goodness. I literally remember coming around like giving
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: them a bottle like crazy.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: No. I have had a full moment yesterday like four
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: times where I just cried because I just feel so grateful.
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: I love being a mom. It's the best thing in
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: the whole entire world. But I was watching like old
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: videos and we all were together and looking back at
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: old photos, and I just looked col and I was like,
• 17:20
  Speaker 3: where does the time go? Like, I'm so grateful that
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: I've had this amazing time. But it's just like the memory.
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: Photos him. I remember Chobby little face. He really was
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: a full blown little boy.
• 17:36
  Speaker 3: Now I know it's absolutely wild, but he had the
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: funnest day. I think you do the same ashually. I
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: let my kids decide if they want to go to
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: school and school, but then like, we're so lucky that
• 17:47
  Speaker 3: we are in the vision where they don't need to.
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: And I wouldn't want to go to school on my
• 17:50
  Speaker 3: birth if I didn't have to. I honestly can't believe
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: that I've got another kid that is over six. We've
• 17:55
  Speaker 3: got another year and a half, babe, and all three
• 17:57
  Speaker 3: of our kids will be in school.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's crazy, And I just like this just it's
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: honestly mind boggling. Oh, I can't imagine.
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: No, it goes really really fast. It does.
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: Speaking of school, we have been really thinking about homeschooling Taj. Yeah,
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: and also I'll talk about the day care situation with Taler,
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: but yeah, we've just been having way bigger conversations around
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: what it could look like. And I've got another girlfriend
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: who's done it only for the last couple of months,
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: and she said it's just been incredible, like the connection
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: between her and her kids the time, just the values,
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: the thing that they value as a family and as parents,
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: and what they want their kids to learn, Like they
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: have full control over. It's not you go to school
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: and you have to learn about this. It's like what
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: do we value and what do we think is going
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: to serve you as an adult and as a kid.
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: It just sounds so beautiful. Steve and I were just
• 18:46
  Speaker 1: talking about like just different things that we wish was
• 18:49
  Speaker 1: taught in school. We have this conversation all the time,
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: like why is communication not a subject? Why is gut
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: health not a subject? I don't know, There's just so
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: many different topics and I'm like, I wish that was
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: done at school. But if you homeschool them, you could
• 19:01
  Speaker 1: literally structure your day still give them the foundational things
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: of mass neglish or whatever, but the things that you
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: really value and you think is going to benefit them,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: you can implement and get the right teachers in place.
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: So we're really looking into it. And there's a couple
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: of kids and the mums that Tarj's were the clothes
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: with that they will open to it as well. So
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: we thought, if we can get three or four of
• 19:19
  Speaker 1: us and we all get the same teacher, take turns
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: at each of our houses, and like, even Tarj is
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: loving tennis at the moment, you can get a tennis
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: liston each day and like, yeah, oh, and I would
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: obviously get a lot more time with him and take
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: Tile along to the different events. And there's a massive
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: homeschool and community and they all get together and go
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: to the beach and it just seems so beautiful.
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: Really does.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: Now I've got more time and space and capacity, I'm like,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this is something that I definitely could do. But I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: see how if I was still running a business and
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Steve was working, or if you are listening and you
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: both were full time, it just it wouldn't work. Now
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: school is there. It's a great system that helps working parents,
• 19:53
  Speaker 1: like it's amazing. I'm not dissing school at all. I
• 19:56
  Speaker 1: just think every family, every kid, every situation and dynamic
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: is so different. So why not explore those we hate
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: it and go no, you go back to school. He
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: might hate it. We asked him at first, he was like, oh,
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: it's my friends. I said what would you rather do?
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: And he's like, oh, I don't mind. Like both sound fun,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: but I'd like to try her home schooling and see
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: if I like it, and if not, can I go
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: back to my school. I was like, yeah, so I
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: were just looking into that, but yeah, so I was
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: from a previous episode totally against daycare for Tala once again,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: not against daycare. Your kid's gone to daycare Tarjment's daycare,
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: but just for her and for me, I was just like,
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: it just doesn't feel right. We've had our nanny for
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: or should be five years this year. Beautiful Tash, She's
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: a walking angel. Absolutely love her. She's in one of
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: the best things for our families. She takes such good
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: care of our children. We're so close with her. We
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: even look.
• 20:42
  Speaker 3: Alike like she's talking, really do you really do?
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: We joke? We're like sisters from another mister very similar upbringings.
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: Like it's just she's been so beautiful, but she's trying
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: to feel pregnant the moment, and now she's actually gonna
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: move away. Yeah, so she's moving way up north, so
• 20:57
  Speaker 1: she's kind of given us plenty of notice, but she'll
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: be going around February, which I bought my eyes out
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: when she told me. She cried, oh but yeah. Obviously
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: with Steve and I were like, Okay, what's our plan.
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: What do we want for Tala? How's it gonna work.
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: At first, I was like, I'll definitely get another nanny,
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: just like not as often because I'm not working as
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: much now. And then he went to take targ for
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: a playdate at his friend's house and the mum text
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: me and said, I'll just go around the corner. You'll
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: see beside the kindy. That's where we'll be. I was like,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: you have a kindy. She's like, yeah, like I run
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: a daycare. I was like, oh my gosh. And it's
• 21:28
  Speaker 1: just so holistic and natural and beautiful and wholesome, and
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: the whole backyard is just like filled with trees that
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: all the kids play on, this big wooden playground, a
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: big pile of mold. It's just like very nature based,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: which is just very mean what I think our kids
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: need more of. And there's just a small group of
• 21:44
  Speaker 1: kids there and she has a big fan and takes
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: them out like little nature adventures. And Tyler did not
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: want to leave. Like I was dropping Taj off for
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: the day for a play date, she did not want
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: to leave. She lost her marbles and I messaged Steve
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: Aart was like, I actually think this is like a
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: beautiful place I would like Tyler to go to.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: That's so exciting.
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: So yeah and quiet, and she sent me brochures and everything.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: She's not open five days a week and it's more
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: limited hours, but that also suits me. Yeah, I can
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: be more flexible now.
• 22:11
  Speaker 3: So how many days a week does she do?
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: She doesn't do Mondays, just Tuesday to Friday. Yeah, no
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: public holidays and it's like drop off at nine, pick
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: up at four. Yeah, so it's just more limited, but
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: that so works for me.
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Something about her that I'm like, I would feel so
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: safe handing my child to you, But with a normal daycat,
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: it's like you don't know them from a bar of soap. Yeah.
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I remember handing Taj over and I remember just sitting
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: in the car balling my eyes being like I didn't
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: actually know how do they suit them? Like no, yes,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: of course they're hagging them when you're there, but like
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: what if he sits in a corner crying and like
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: they're too busy with other I don't know. My head
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: just like, oh I just found that really harboutage and
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: I just couldn't put myself through it again. Yeah, some
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: kids are fine, Like you know, I've got friends that
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: drop the kids off and like, Siema, I.
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: Know my kids weren't like that.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: No, that's what I'm saying. It's not the daycare. It's
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: the child and it's the mum, And like my emotional capacity,
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: I can't. Yeah, I just can't.
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: So with homeschooling, end daycare? Do you know what you're
• 23:07
  Speaker 3: going to start?
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: He's staying in school for this year. If we decided
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: to homeschool, it'd be from the start of next year.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: Cool. And it's the same with Tyler as well.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, Tash were leaving in feb So yeah, it'll
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: be a whole new thing next year.
• 23:19
  Speaker 3: Wow, I've got some big change.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: I'm still it's not certain. I'm still like just investigating it,
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: and I hope the two friends that is close with
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: their parents are the same as me. I hope like
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: they want to as well. I think together they'd be
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: really cool if it was just us. I think it
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: really struggling away from his friends and the school it
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: goes to is fantastic.
• 23:38
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he likes school.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: I don't hate it. There's just some things in there.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, I wish they would teach them more
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: about this. I wish they would do more of this.
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: Like even the other day, one of the mums came
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: in into sound healing for them and I was like,
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: that would be like ful meditations. Down healing is something
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I would incorporate weekly. If I was to homeschool him
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: cooking classes, I would incorporate weekly. Yeah, it's just from
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: the air at the moment. To find out more.
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: Yeah, definitely, I mean we did that as well, looked
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: into it for quite a while. Just the biggest thing is,
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: like you said before, when both parents are kind of
• 24:05
  Speaker 3: working and trying to juggle, like how you'd make it happen.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: I think we definitely need some more help. So I
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: think it'd be quite an expensive task. And then yeah,
• 24:14
  Speaker 3: just getting like, you know, if we wanted to get
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: a teacher to help, but if you could do in
• 24:17
  Speaker 3: a community like that and get other moms and kids together,
• 24:20
  Speaker 3: that's such a.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Clever way of doing it. Yeah, because I've got a
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: girlfriend that does it, and that's what I said to
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: about Pass and she goes, nah, Babe, it's not expensive
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: when you've got a community, like you're all helping, you're contributing,
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: like you're all in there teaching them, and yeah, they're
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: definitely not well off financially, so it doesn't have to
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: be expensive. But if you were to get a teacher
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: in and it's just for your kids, it probably would
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: be more. Yeah, But I think when you really get
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: amongst the community, there's so much there. Yeah, like sol.
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: Exciteyyeah, good as well just being open and you know,
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: yeah learning new things about that and wonderful.
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: I'll be a mess to day I dropped Taylor off though, honestly,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: I'd be like freedom.
• 24:54
  Speaker 3: I think the first day she's upset, you might be.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: I think if she's like stoked the first week, you'll
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: probably find it quite easy. But maybe the first day
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: when she's like mom, that's when you're like, I remember
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: sitting in my car crying after dropping them off.
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: It can trume my whole day, just to try the
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: whole day, and then you.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: Checking your phone all the times if there's like pictures
• 25:10
  Speaker 3: that have come through.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: So hard, isn't it.
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So something really exciting is I might be doing
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: a bit of traveling in September. I feel so privileged
• 25:22
  Speaker 3: to be able to go and do this and just
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: work alongside Operation Smile. If you don't know about Operation Smile,
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: they basically an organization that repairs cleft lips. They also
• 25:33
  Speaker 3: do craniofacial surgeries, so you know, if people have got
• 25:36
  Speaker 3: certain growths and stuff on their face, they can help
• 25:38
  Speaker 3: get rid of them. And a lot of these kids
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: in other countries are struggling a lot with eating and
• 25:43
  Speaker 3: just doing day to day tasks, like you know, they're
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: struggling so much, and they do it all in third
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: world countries because here in Australia it is all through
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: the government, which is amazing. How lucky we live in
• 25:53
  Speaker 3: a country lucky where you know you've got that support.
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: So they have actually invited Kurt and I to go
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: on a mission and I just like don't even have
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: words for it to be able to be there and
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: see in real time what they are actually do and
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: how they help these families.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: So what is a mission?
• 26:09
  Speaker 3: What they do is they go over and they meet
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: all of the little kids, and there's even some adults
• 26:13
  Speaker 3: that still haven't had that need surgery. They educate them,
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: let them know what they're going to do. Then they
• 26:19
  Speaker 3: do the surgery for about three or four days on
• 26:21
  Speaker 3: all the different as many as they can in that time,
• 26:23
  Speaker 3: and they do postop on the last day and then leave.
• 26:26
  Speaker 3: But basically, yeah, we've been invited to go and document
• 26:30
  Speaker 3: it all. So I'm so because it's something that you know,
• 26:34
  Speaker 3: has been so close to curtain my heart, having Miller
• 26:37
  Speaker 3: born with a cleft, and we've donated to repair a
• 26:40
  Speaker 3: lot of clefts with them without business, which has been amazing.
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: And yes, so we're either going to go the end
• 26:46
  Speaker 3: of this year, so thirtieth of September to Manila, or
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: they've got one in May in India, or they've got
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: one next September in Manila as well. But obviously just
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: trying to align everything with the kids being looked after
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: and you know, getting over there. But I am just
• 27:02
  Speaker 3: so yeah, I'm so palm it's incredible life changing. I
• 27:07
  Speaker 3: said to actually like Colonel come home and just things
• 27:10
  Speaker 3: that feel so big and significant will just feel so
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: small and insignificant.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: And just how cool that you can contribute in that way.
• 27:16
  Speaker 1: And even you're like editing and filming skills to be
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: able to really document in a way that can be
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: so captivating, to spread the awareness, to make people watch
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: what actually you know they do the work that they do,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: and for you to go meet the kids and like
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: see them before surgery, like you know, hold their hand
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: going in or I don't know if you get to
• 27:31
  Speaker 1: do that, and then afterwards watch them coming out like
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: that whole.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: And just the excitement of them coming out, and like
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: because so many of these kids as well, they completely
• 27:38
  Speaker 3: shunned by their community, so like kids throw rocks at them,
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: they won't play with them. They think that they're witches
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: in certain countries as well. So when you repair it,
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: it actually completely changes their life, like they're socially accepted
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: by their tribe and everything. Again, so I'm pumped for that.
• 27:53
  Speaker 3: And then they're also doing a fun run. So it's
• 27:56
  Speaker 3: on the eighth of September. It's ten kilometers.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: So cool up here at brisy.
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: So if anyone wants to come, message me and I
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: can give you the details. But that's just to raise
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: some awareness as well. So it's gonna be yeah, fun day.
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: I just love just being aligned with things that just
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: like fill you up, like all the things I do
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: and everyone that works there, like this organization. They're just
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: all so beautiful, Like every single person you come in
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: contact with every event we go to, they're all so loving,
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: they're so caring, they're so genuine, down to earth, Like
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: we sitn't have coffee dates with them, Kurt and I
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: and catch ups and yeah, it's just such a beautiful organization.
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: But I'm so excited. And I said at the start
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: of this year, like I manifested this hugely. I kept
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: talking saying I wanted more travel. I think we had
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: it on the podcast either, Yeah, and I was talking
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: about a lot. And there's just been so many random
• 28:45
  Speaker 3: trips that have popped up this year and this is
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: just another one.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: So cool.
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: I can't wait to have the experience and be able
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: to share it too.
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: I can't wait to seal the content.
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, I'm plump.
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: It's gonna be amazing. Yeah, So we had our first
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: tar has ever had this, but hand foot in mouth
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: with Tala. Oh my goodness, poor little thing. It was
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: so rough for her. So she had none on her feet.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: She had one little blister on her finger that never
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: actually popped or anything. It literally just like went away.
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: But underneath her tongue or it was like one massive ulcer.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: So for a cup, she was just absolutely miserable. I've
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: never seen her like that. She really showed me what
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: a happy kid she is. But she couldn't drink her bottle.
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: She barely ate. It was also super painful, so painful,
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: like I almost wish they were on her hands or feet.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: I feel like that may have been easier, but oh
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: it was so sad. So that was really hard. And
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: that finished, and then she got an eye infection. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: was like, oh my goodness, what the hell. And it
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: wasn't conjunctivitis and it wasn't a sty. The doctor took
• 29:48
  Speaker 1: a swab to find out what it is, but I
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: didn't hear back from him. I need to actually call.
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: But she went on her first antibotics, which I just
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: hate giving. I know they're necessary and hence why I
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: gave them to her, But just like rebuilding her gut
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: health back up now. But yeah, that was rough, like
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: a handfut in Mauth.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: We haven't had that in her house yet. Touch Actually
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: really lucky because a lot of our friends have had that,
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: like daycare and stuff. Yeah don't they picked up from
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: So just said had it first?
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: No, he hasn't had it. So apparently it could be
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: shopping trolley's, it could be a park there you go, swimming,
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: It could be anywhere. Wow, anyone has an open blister. Yeah,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: or like if I kissed her, I could get it
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: there you go. So we were just and like she
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: loves going outside, so we were home bound and I
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: get such cabin fever, Like it was really really hard
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: to be a home for that whole time. We've got
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: a little area down near our house. It's like just
• 30:36
  Speaker 1: kind of goes onto a creek. So I take her
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: down there to like throw sticks in the water, and
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: that was like her little outing. But otherwise it was
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: just in the backyard and like playing with the toys again.
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: Did she get stir crazy too, Yeah, my kids do
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: as well.
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: And a lot of screen time, which I don't really
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: give her any screen time, but when she was in
• 30:52
  Speaker 1: so much pain, it was the only thing that was Yeah,
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: I tried going outside, I tried like playing games with her,
• 30:58
  Speaker 1: and she was just like are we are? We are?
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: We gotta do what you gotta do. So we had
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: to like wean her off the TV, which we've done.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: It only took a couple of days, but that was
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: like saved us.
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: They get so addicted, don't they so addicted so quickly,
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: so quick.
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: It also allowed me to still be able to do
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: a bit of work on my phone while she was
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: watching TV. Like still she still wanted to be cuddled.
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: But yeah, there were some long days. It was a
• 31:17
  Speaker 1: long week.
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: Speaking of saws and mouth. Yeah, remember how Curdie got
• 31:22
  Speaker 3: the side of his lip burned. I haven't actually spoke
• 31:24
  Speaker 3: about this on the podcast, but Kurt went to get
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: a skin check and he had a severe sun spot
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: on his lip so straight away the doctor wouldn't even
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: let him leave without burning it right then and there, Kurt,
• 31:36
  Speaker 3: So it was one of the most painful things on
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: your lip. He's ever experienced, so much nerve ending. So
• 31:42
  Speaker 3: he had like a massive big burn on the side
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: of his lip. It was all bleeding like it took
• 31:46
  Speaker 3: ages to heal as well. You're thinking in your mouth
• 31:48
  Speaker 3: it would heal quick, but.
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: It's outside the mouth.
• 31:50
  Speaker 3: It's not a true true. But anyways, he's got to
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: go back because they said he's actually got a laser
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: his entire bottom lip. He's not looking forward to a bay.
• 32:00
  Speaker 3: They wanted that once box was really bad, but they said,
• 32:02
  Speaker 3: then he takes three layers off his whole bottom lip
• 32:04
  Speaker 3: and just the healing and that kissing for you guys,
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: no kissing and even like just trying to have like
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: a warm drink or something like, you can't do any
• 32:11
  Speaker 3: of that stuff.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: For god, I know.
• 32:14
  Speaker 3: The poor thing means so lucky that they've picked up
• 32:15
  Speaker 3: on it. Yeah, it's not cancerous yet, but if he
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: left it so they said, the severe sun spot another
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: couple of years, who knows, so it could have yeah,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: definitely gone that way. So Little reminded to get the
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: sun check as well. But he's got a book in
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: to get that done. He keeps putting it off, and
• 32:29
  Speaker 3: he keeps going, oh, just weight, i'ld just wait, and
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I'm like, now I know, and also just really painful.
• 32:34
  Speaker 3: It takes ages to heal. So he's just like and
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: last time, I feel like everyone's just looking out of
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: me a bit funny, like has he been punched in
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: their face? Or like what's happened because a big bump
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: on his lip? But yeah, I know the whole bottom lip.
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, it would make yourself conscious. I remember my mum
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: had skin cancer and she had to do chemo treatment,
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: which they put this cream on her face and it
• 32:52
  Speaker 1: basically like burns the cancer away, but your whole face
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: is like it looks like scabbed and bleeding and raw,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: like it's literally taking layers of your skin off. And
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: I remember the first time I saw her, I just like,
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: I'm pretty good with most medical things, Like it takes
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: a lot to like not gross me out, but gross
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: me out. Yeah, And I just was like, oh my gosh,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: your face looks so sore. But she just went out.
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: She she was was really surprised. Actually she didn't really care.
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, look at me, but whatever, whatever to do.
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: And it's twelve week treatment. Yeah, so what can you do?
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: You can't hire for twelve weeks, definitely, But yeah that's
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: just when it's on your face. I get a big
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: pimpo and I find that hard lot.
• 33:29
  Speaker 3: And even painful. Like in how we find like We're
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: just saying how painful pimples can be. Like getting things
• 33:34
  Speaker 3: like that done is so like so sensitive.
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: I feel like the injected just that it's always more
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: painful than like normal botox because there's so many nerve
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: endings around your lips here you go so much more sensitive. Yeah,
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: speaking of health, I feel like I'm finally like falling
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: back in love with the gym. Yeah, and I've realized
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: it's taken me such a long time. Like obviously I
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: was pregnant with Tiler and I still move my body.
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: I honestly think I haven't loved the gym like Waits
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: Gym since I had my own gym. Because having my
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: own gym, it was just the whole environment. The culture
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: of the community is all females. I just like it
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: so much, so I had that to compare to. So
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: every gym I went to, I was just like, oh,
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: there's just no five the music shit, and like no
• 34:11
  Speaker 1: one's friendly and it just the classes didn't love so
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: kind of just like mainly trained from home and gone
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: to the gym like once maybe twice a week, just
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: because I do like weights, but I wasn't loving it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: And since I've met my girlfriend Tiana. We go four
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: times a week now, and it's just so nice to
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: one have accountability, Like I would not get up at
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: quarter past four to go to the gym if I
• 34:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't meeting her. Absolutely en two the endorphins I get.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: It overflows to my whole day because we're not only
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: active and moving our bodies and it feels healthy, like
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: we're giggling, we're laughing, we're having deep conversations. We're getting
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to hang out. Yeah, like four times a week now,
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: which is so cool, and she pushes me. Yes.
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: So honestly, having a gym buddies game changer. There's no
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: slacking off, same as dance. That's so I said to you, like,
• 34:51
  Speaker 3: as soon as my friends drop off and I'm on
• 34:53
  Speaker 3: my own, I don't go. I do it for like
• 34:55
  Speaker 3: a few weeks, and then I'm like, it's not as fun.
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: It is not as fun. You can go, you can
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: get it done, and You're like, yeah, you can put
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: music on me to go to the gym, but it's
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: just not the same as having so much training. So
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: I'm loving it. And I thought the gym actually was
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: kind of like a past version, like oh, that was
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: just when you were younger, You've had kids now like
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: making up with these stories. But I'm like, no, I
• 35:15
  Speaker 1: actually fucking love the gym, and I get up super
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: early so that I can be back before my kids
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: wake up, Yeah, to get my me time, and then
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: I'm fully present with them, and I just feel like
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: I've got more capacity for them as well. That's so good.
• 35:26
  Speaker 3: I play the craze changed that for me hugely.
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: As soon as the kids started being okay and liking
• 35:32
  Speaker 3: the crage, I was like, sweet, now I can go
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: way more. But until that point, I feel like I
• 35:36
  Speaker 3: was the saying I was like once a week, twice
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: a week, you know the box, Yeah, ticking the box.
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: Whereas now can I go together a lot of the time? Yeah,
• 35:44
  Speaker 3: And we just bring them, put them in the grace
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: and they love it.
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: They look forward to it. I love how good.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: We were so nervous to try as well. So anyone
• 35:51
  Speaker 3: who's been like hesitating, going, oh, I don't know how they're
• 35:52
  Speaker 3: going to go, give it a try.
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: So good.
• 35:55
  Speaker 3: Yeah, wish we did it earlier.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: Epic. Isn't it so good? And I feel like when
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: you're moving your body consistently, it's obviously an overflow to
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: you more conscious of what you put in your body.
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: You want to be feeling it Like, it's so true.
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: Realize I was kind of not under eating purposely, but
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: now I'm more conscious of eating enough so that I
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: can train and have the energy to train well.
• 36:13
  Speaker 3: And gay muscle.
• 36:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like really conscious how much protin I'm eating
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: and not as much like sugary lily sweets, which I've
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: been pretty good since eten.
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: Sorry, I just brought some fundation.
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: Good ingredients. Speaking of a hack that I found has
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: worked really well. If you're trying to cut out sugar,
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: brush your teeth. Honestly, friggin treat. I do it. I
• 36:33
  Speaker 1: was going to have it after dinner having something sweet,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: but even during the day from craving something. Now I
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: brush my teeth.
• 36:37
  Speaker 3: That's such a good idea.
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Nothing tastes good when you've got like strong minty taste
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in your mouth instantly goes away.
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: You got me onto the tongue scraper. I love it.
• 36:47
  Speaker 1: If you're good your mouth, you got me on to
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: do it the first thing you do before you have water. Otherwise,
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: if you have water, actually swallowing some of the toxins
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: like scrape for a I've been doing before bed and
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: then in the morning.
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, so good, so good. Getting your recommendations.
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, I love it recommend things. I feel
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: like I recommend health stuff to you and you recommend
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: beauty stuff to me. It's so drue. I love it.
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to Europe with just Taj. I know.
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: I spoke about this on a previous episode of Like
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: My Intrusive Thoughts. If you haven't listened to that episode,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: it's quite a deep one, a very vulnerable one of
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: the intrusive thoughts that go through my mind when it
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: comes to traveling with my kids. And yeah, we just
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: decided to book Taj and Ice. We're going over to Italy.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: We've got one night in Rome together and then we
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: go out to the wedding destination, which is out in
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. It's literally like a big property,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: and then we're going to Paris for four nights. So
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited. He's so excited. I think it's going
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: to be a trip that I would just look back
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: on for the rest of my life and like that
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: was such a special Mum and Sun Train incredible. We're
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: really close, but I do feel like since Tyler's come along,
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: he's more closer to Steve because I kind of was
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: breastfeeding and up with her, and like she's very mummy's girl,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: Like she's so mean to Steve. No daddy, I want
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: mummy like sassy, Like it's so mean. I'm like, oh,
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: you have such a nice dad, like I would have
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: dreamed to have a dad like him. She'll go out
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: of it, I know, but naturally, I just I'm with
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: her more so I can't wait to have this quality
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: time with just Targe. And I also feel like when
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: I'm with her, I can't give my order charge because
• 38:15
  Speaker 1: she interrupts every.
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: Five and they need you so much more. I can
• 38:17
  Speaker 3: feel like with Red two, it's hard to have quality
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: time with the others when she is around. Like even
• 38:21
  Speaker 3: if Kur just takes her out for half the day
• 38:23
  Speaker 3: and I got the other two, I'm like, oh I
• 38:24
  Speaker 3: can really, it's not conset mum, mum mum that I
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: want this want that.
• 38:29
  Speaker 1: It's just one hundred percent. So I'm excited to just
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: be fully present with him. They're just going for twelve days,
• 38:34
  Speaker 1: which I know sounds like a lot, but for a
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: europe trip, it's actually not no, if you're allowed twenty
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: four hours on one end twenty four hours in the
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: back end to get home, and the time difference is
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: so hard to adjust to and it's going to be
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: pretty go go go.
• 38:45
  Speaker 3: So what's the time difference?
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: Like it's like complete opposite, pleet opposite. Yeah, around like
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: I think two pm, but it was like three am
• 38:52
  Speaker 1: at home.
• 38:53
  Speaker 3: Oh wow. It's like it's like complete opposite, so out
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: of wag wow.
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: But I'm so excited. It's going to be so fun.
• 39:00
  Speaker 3: So exciting.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: So when you go again September seventh, September seventh, and
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: the wedding is on the twelve. Yeah, so she's gonna
• 39:06
  Speaker 1: look so beautiful. I should be the most stunning bride. Stunning, Yeah,
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: like she really is. There's not one bit of like
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: closet psychoe is there. Someone is so perfect You're like,
• 39:16
  Speaker 1: you've got to be a closet psycho. There's nothing with her.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: It is so even like when she has a little
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: bit of fire, she's like, oh no, I bought my fire.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are we talking beath.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: Fire or we're talking like proper fire.
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: She's like, yeah, beasth fire. Oh and then lastly for me,
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: is just we've got our next ultimate girl's day out.
• 39:32
  Speaker 1: We don't have another one booked in, but this is
• 39:34
  Speaker 1: happening August eleventh. So yeah, as I said, the day
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: before I go into hospital, So it's gonna be really
• 39:38
  Speaker 1: nice for me to be in their energy do the ice.
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  Speaker 3: BA Honestly will be. It's the most incredible day. If
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  Speaker 3: you guys haven't listened to my episode speaking about the
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  Speaker 3: breathwork session, go listen to it. Yeah, just for that alone,
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  Speaker 3: like that experience that I got out of it. The
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  Speaker 3: breathwork alone is worth the whole day. Yeah, but everything's amazing,
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  Speaker 3: so such good value. I'm really excited for that August eleventh.
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  Speaker 1: Otherwise, that's a big catch up.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, now, I know, I feel like we haven't done
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  Speaker 3: one of these ages. We had so much to talk.
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  Speaker 1: About so much. We like dabble in it in little episodes.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, hey, you guys know all the lowdown ps.
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  Speaker 3: Love yourself enough to choose happiness over convenience. Disconnect from
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  Speaker 3: social media when it feels toxic, create a life that
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  Speaker 3: feels good on the inside, Let go of what weighs
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  Speaker 3: you down. Understand when you need time for yourself. End
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  Speaker 3: cycles of self neglect, Speak kindly to yourself, be honest
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  Speaker 3: with yourself about your feelings, challenge thoughts that don't serve you,
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  Speaker 3: and believe in yourself. I love that.
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  Speaker 1: PS. Gentle reminder, no person is one hundred percent heel
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  Speaker 1: because healing isn't linear. We go backwards and forwards and
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  Speaker 1: sometimes we're all over the place, but that's the process.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't think you must be one hundred percent heel
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  Speaker 1: to deserve love and good things in life, because you
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  Speaker 1: absolutely do. Always Amen, men, thanks for joining us. Guys,
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  Speaker 1: will see you on Wednesday.
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  Speaker 3: See you then by