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How Jannik Sinner Became World No.1 | MindSets Podcast | Episode 88 · The MindSets Podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to another episode of The Mindsets
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  Podcast, episode 88, Two Fat Ladies.
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  Is that what that is? That's.
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  I think that's what they call it in bingo.
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  Is it? I don't know if that's
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  culturally appropriate anymore. I don't think it is.
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  I also don't think cultural appropriation is the right term
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  for that either. No, I don't.
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  IPC don't know. I think yes.
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  Yeah, we'll go with that one. Welcome back everybody.
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  So bingo, specific episode, bingo episode we're going.
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  To be going into the awkward training of Bingo Players, No,
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  we're going to be looking at tennis today in particular.
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  We know that Roland Garris is coming up, which is the French
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  major, and we have a particular someone who is desperate to win
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  that, which is Yannick Sinner. I don't know if you want to kind
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  of give a little insight into how important it is.
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  So Yannick Sinner, 25, isn't he? He's still a baby, still super
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  young. World #1 currently ranked world
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  number one. My favorite stat though about
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  the annex Sinner. He's 6th on the all time
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  earnings competition earnings. Do you want to have a guess at
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  how many millions of dollars? In competition 6th.
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  Which is meant that he's only 25 and he hasn't been doing it for
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  so long. I'm going to say like based off
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  what I know, Serena Williams winning was let's say he's
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  earned like 22 mil. 65 it's like crazy.
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  So he's doing well. I mean he's got a star-studded
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  line up of accolades to his name of things that he's won.
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  He's won Wimbledon, he's won the US Open, he's won the
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  Australian. The only one he hasn't won is
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  like you say, Roland Garros, which is coming up.
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  So over the course of the next couple of weeks, his preparation
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  for that will be key and I guess that's what we're going to talk
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  about now. Wicked.
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  Well, before we do that, as you guys know, we do Sports News.
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  You know, people actually really rely on us for that.
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  Really. Yeah.
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  Yeah. Like I missed an episode and I
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  forgot. I didn't know what was going on
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  in the world of sport. This week is actually not that
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  exciting. We're hoping that the sport as
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  well picks up because there's a big couple of months coming up.
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  As we know we've got the football World Cup and things
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  like that. It's going to be crazy.
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  But do you want to kick us off this week?
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  Let me start the timer because we're going to do this inside 2
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  minutes. OK?
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  We'll try 321 off you. Go so obviously heating up in
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  the Premier League at the moment.
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  Arsenal played West Ham over the weekend, very, very maybe
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  controversial at least consequential VARVAR decision in
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  the last minute to deny West Ham a goal and a draw.
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  So I think that puts Arsenal now five points clear, looking very
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  likely for them to win the the premise this season.
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  You're next. Yeah, so actually sticking on
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  the theme of Arsenal, they aren't going to do the triple
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  this season because they got knocked out the FA Cup last
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  month, but they are looking good to do the double.
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  They beat Atletico Madrid one nil last week, which means
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  they're taking on PSG on May the 30th in the Champions League
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  final, which I think Arsenal has only been to once before really.
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  I don't know if they won it, imagine probably research that,
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  but I didn't. Anyway, moving on.
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  Gallagher Prem So rugby now? Unfortunately, Saints won the
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  lost the Midlands Derby against Leicester, but they're luckily
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  still at the top of the table because Exeter managed to beat
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  Bath, which was a a huge result for Exeter.
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  Sean Strickland in UFC328 beat Chimev.
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  I'm not sure if that's how you pronounce his name in the the
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  middle weight the division by decision.
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  And then based off some news we spoke about a couple of weeks
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  ago, Justin Rose debuted his McLaren club.
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  So there's, there's a lot of hyper at work because I was
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  excited thinking, you know, the engineering behind me is going
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  to be incredible. I think he shot his second worst
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  ever round of golf this season and nearly came last on the
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  leaderboard with his brand new clubs and very funny tweet.
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  He then posted he was like, I'll try and use DRS next time, which
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  I thought was quite which I thought was quite good from from
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  Justin Rose. But should we stay with golf?
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  Yeah, yes. So Saudi Arabia, which is like
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  the funding behind live golf, whether or not, you know, all
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  the controversy around the PGA and the, and the, and live golf,
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  they're pulling their funding at the end of the season.
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  So a lot of the players who jump shit from PGA because of these
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  big contracts that live offering them, like Bryce and the Chambo,
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  Jon Rahm, Phil Mickelson, their future is potentially a little
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  bit in the hands of fate because they don't know whether or not
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  they're going to be allowed back to play in the PGA.
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  So we'll see what happens with that.
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  All hotting up, there is one more golf thing.
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  Actually, you went to the cinema yesterday.
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  Yeah, Rory McIlroy has a cameo appearance in The Devil's The
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  Devil Wears Prada, too. So if you're into, I don't know
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  what you have to be. Honest.
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  Is it a horror film or something?
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  Have you not seen that the? Thing of the Black Swan.
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  No, I have no idea what Devil Wears Pride is about.
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  You've never seen it? Well, I'd seen it years ago and
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  I probably should have known what had happened in the first
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  movie. But if you haven't gone see it,
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  I would very recommend it. Very recommend it.
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  The best. That's the best.
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  It's fun. It's.
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  Fun and Rory Mcilroy's in it. Well, there we go.
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  Let's let's dive into the topic today.
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  Again, if you're, if you came here from a couple episodes ago,
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  we switched out. We do grind my gears later.
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  So there are things that are annoying you guys.
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  We're just going to make you hold on to those a little bit
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  longer. That might be a grind my gear.
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  Someone send that in please. That'd be so good, and it would
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  leave us so bamboozled as to what to do.
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  Where do we put it? Exactly.
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  Just for reference, I don't think we did the news inside 2
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  minutes, but I thought to look at when we stopped it, so we'll
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  just take the L on that. Anyway, it's done inside 3
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  minutes, That's fine. So, Yannick Sinner, I don't know
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  if you want to go slightly further into your initial
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  interest. So for the anyone who's not
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  necessarily following tennis or doesn't know so much about how
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  the season's structured, you obviously have like the main
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  events across the year. You've got your Wimbledons,
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  you've got your rolongar, Roland Garrus, U.S.
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  Open, etcetera. It's like the big tournaments
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  that everyone knows about. Below that you have kind of like
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  the end of season finals and then the most prestigious comp
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  tournaments across the year. Other than those, they're called
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  the AAPTATPATPATP. The thing that makes energy in
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  in yourselves, you have they're, they're called the Masters of
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  Thousands and they're played across the season and there's
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  nine in the season. Now what's significant about
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  that is there's only one player who's ever won all all nine.
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  And it's obviously the king himself, Novak Djokovic.
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  Now Yanuk Sinner has had an unbelievable run this season and
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  I think he's won four in a row, which is a record in itself.
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  If I'm not mistaken. No one's won that many in a row
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  in one season and he's going to Rome or he's currently playing
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  in Rome, which is happening now. I think he might even be playing
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  this afternoon and he's got the opportunity to be the second
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  ever player to win all nine crowns and he could potentially
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  win a fifth in a row, which would just be like an
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  unbelievable achievement. And he's Italian himself.
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  So to win on home soil, I'm sure is like a big, big deal for him.
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  Yeah, I think it's quite a big a sort of month for him.
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  So we're hoping that this is timed right.
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  If you guys are hearing about him on the news and then you got
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  to actually look into what's going on.
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  And it is an all Golden Boy though, if we if we're going to
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  be honest with you guys and we're going to let you you know
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  what happened 2024 Yanixin had to take three months off the
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  sport and that's because he had to accept that he failed the
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  drugs test, got caught with performance enhancing anabolic
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  steroid called cluster bowl. Don't know really what that
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  does, but sounds good. Sounds good.
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  It was good enough for him to put on quite a lot of size.
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  I think one of the things that is recognizable about Yannick
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  when he was quite young, entering professional sport is
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  he was quite lean, quite skinny. And that was probably one of the
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  reasons why he was struggling against some of those more
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  veteran players that had a bit more power, a bit more size.
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  So anyway, gets a new coach by the name of Darren Cahill and
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  genuinely would never suggest that there would be a
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  correlation between the two. But that happened in 2022 and
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  that's allegedly when he started putting on some size.
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  So anyway, speculation, speculation.
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  I think one of the things that is interesting about Yannick's
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  career now is he's now in the sort of peak part of his career
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  as a tennis player, kind of peak athleticism, peak experience
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  where far sort of peak understanding of the sport.
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  And so that's all starting to come together.
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  But there's a few things that have changed about his game as
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  well. And rather than being a really
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  energetic kid and seeing the sport as like, oh, I've got to
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  do everything I can in order to improve, it's actually become
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  less of a robot within the sport and actually have a life and
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  have the sport. And that's something I think
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  Darren Cahill, his coach has actually mentioned that he is
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  much better right now. Interestingly as well, this is a
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  little piece of information I found out about a month ago.
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  Yannick when he was a kid was a dual sport athlete.
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  Oh really? He's actually very highly ranked
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  in skiing in giants farm. And then at he's like 13, maybe
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  14. He's committed to tennis.
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  So like that's cool. Again, once you're if you're a
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  talented kid and you have to choose a sport and that young
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  like you become a robot for it because you chose that sport
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  over the other one. Especially in Italy as well,
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  like skiing is quite a big thing for them.
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  I'm. Sure.
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  I'd love to see like when you sit down and you go, OK, I'm
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  going to do the positives and negatives of why I want to
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  choose skiing over why I want to choose tennis.
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  And I'm sure number one on the list was I can earn a lot of
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  money. Yeah, I don't know how much
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  money there, isn't there. Are many Lindsay Vons in the
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  world true? Definitely.
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  Yeah, you're right. But the next thing that's
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  changed, as he actually did begin to have a bit more success
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  on the tour just through being a very talented player and getting
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  some wins under his belt. He brought in someone who's
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  quite well known within the tennis space, which is Marco
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  Panichi. That happened in 2004.
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  Now Marco Panichi is a famous name because he's worked with
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  the likes of Novak Djokovic, as you said, the king.
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  He's won everything. He's the only person to do what
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  Yannick yet hasn't done. Sure.
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  Now what Marco is well known for is movement efficiency.
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  And rather than being like, we're going to work on this
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  specific shot over and over again until your body gets it.
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  It's like, how do we train to allow your body to do certain
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  things on the court? So kind of, I guess what we
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  would talk about in every other sport is plyometrics.
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  But the interesting thing about tennis players training is that
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  so much of it happens on the court.
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  You don't actually, I mean, they do gym sessions and stuff.
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  But in previous episodes where we've done athlete profiles, we
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  talk about how, you know, they might be on the elliptical to
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  get their base work in. They might be using the bike
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  they might be running when running has nothing to do with.
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  This training versus sport and it's like the sports specific
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  conditioning that you're doing all the sports specific strength
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  you're doing in the gym. They're doing a lot of their
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  training just it is sport exactly.
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  And that's that's that's again, something that comes hand in
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  hand with it being a skill dominant sport.
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  And I'm sure we're going to go down that rabbit hole a lot in
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  the in the next couple of. Minutes, yeah.
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  And the conditioning side of it is is massive because if you
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  think about and I think about when I was a kid and I was doing
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  some coaching, I was being coached in tennis, whether that
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  be in like APE class or actually there was a club locally which I
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  did a few lessons. I never really took to it
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  because we did a lot of things like shuttle runs and the
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  shuttle runs were more fun than just doing shuttle runs because
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  it would be each line of the court, but then you'd have to
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  hit the ball over or you're doing round the world.
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  You take the turns, which I love, but.
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  So good. It was pretty much all the
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  training felt like conditioning because like there is so much
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  running. Yeah, yeah.
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  But again, once you're at that elite level, that's also great
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  because then you aren't having to think so much about how you
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  balance all these different forms.
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  It's like I'm on the court and this section of my court time
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  today is for this and then we'll move into this section and kind
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  of all do it in one place, which makes it not easier.
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  I'm just going to go on for a personal experience and for
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  anyone who doesn't know I was also a dual athlete when I was
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  younger and I it was tennis or rugby.
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  Yeah, neither was. I was only good at and and
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  decided to not choose. Either still dual though still
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  dual. But last year we went to
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  Portugal and I haven't played tennis in a long time and there
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  were tennis courts where we were staying.
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  We just thought let's have a have a little hip about.
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  Obviously we do a lot of training, a lot of fitness.
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  A lot of my training is running specific to whether it's running
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  half marathons or doing high rocks, etcetera, etcetera.
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  So you're like, well, I have that fitness.
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  But as soon as you go sports specific and you get on a tennis
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  court and it's the stop, start back forth, lateral movement,
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  rotation, having to then compose yourself to hit the tennis ball,
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  it's a completely different thing, which is just mental to
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  me. Where you go, Well, I think I'm
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  generally quite fit. You play like 10 minutes of
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  tennis and lots like hands on knees.
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  Like it's so specific. And if you don't train that and
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  you don't have the specific conditioning for that, God, it's
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  hard. And that's even from like if you
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  look at a point individually, the stamina required to win one
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  point. Oh, it's crazy.
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  And like you just have to my level versus the top level
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  athletes. It's just like the speed of the
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  game, the the, the movement, the anticipation is just honestly,
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  I, I could talk about tennis players all day every day.
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  If if. You did say like you think
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  they're the pinnacle athlete. They are the pinnacle of any.
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  Because and your defence is around the skill and the
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  conditioning. Yeah.
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  So the the way I define it, because you need to have some
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  sort of parameters of definition of what you think the highest
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  level of sport is. I use the 10 physical skills.
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  Lots of those skills are seen across every sport.
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  You've got more than potentially not every sport, but you've got
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  like cardiovascular, like endurance and stamina.
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  You have power, you have speed, you have agility, you have
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  flexibility, you have accuracy, you have coordination, you have
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  balance. I don't know if I just nailed
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  all 10, but that could have been incredible that first time.
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  Yeah, it's great. I don't know if I don't know
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  VARI, but there's there's there's so few sports that have
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  all 10. Yeah, so few.
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  And I just until someone can can give me a more compelling
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  argument. I think tennis players are at
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  the pinnacle of athleticism. Speed golf.
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  Speed golf. Anyway, we'll move on.
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  We could argue, We could argue, yeah, yeah.
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  I don't think speed golf earns as much money.
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  So so we'll stick on tennis. One of the things that's
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  interesting though, and we've spoken a lot about this with
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  other athletes and I think this is a bit of an understanding
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  that really began around the Olympics mainly being every four
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  years, but has really trickled down into other sports on a more
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  miniature scale, which is periodisation of training.
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  I think there's also been a massive understanding both
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  scientifically, but from just feeling of just like you
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  actually can't be in peak performance all the time.
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  You can't, you can have a new sort of what, what would you
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  even call it, like baseline across where you're like minimum
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  performance is you absolutely cannot be at your very best all
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  the time. And so a lot of athletes are now
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  deliberately saying, look, this is when it matters to me and
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  this is when it doesn't. And so, for example, we've said
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  before, Yannick has won Wimbledon, he's won Melbourne,
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  he's won the US Open. So you'd think pretty naturally
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  he's probably set his most recent training block up to be
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  peaking at this time. So you can take off the thousand
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  and then also win at Rolongar. Now, in order to do that,
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  there's a lot of planning that has to go into that.
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  This isn't the sort of thing you can decide six weeks out you're
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  going to grate for. You've really got to take into
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  account and sacrifice some things before that.
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  Whether that's because you need to do a strength block, whether
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  that's because you need to do a specific aerobic easy base
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  building, you basically need to identify.
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  Just get more comfortable to playing on clay.
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  That's it because this is one of the huge things is the other
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  court. I think Melbourne and the US
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  Open, correct me if I were on both hardcore and they're like
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  kind of like rubbery, grippy kind of thing.
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  Wimbledon obviously grass very different.
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  A lot of players will actually, if they want to win Wimbledon or
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  do well at Wimbledon, we'll take their foot off the gas Rd. on
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  Gauss because on clay it's known to slide.
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  It's faster, serves happen quicker.
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  You've got to be way more reactive.
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  Things like spin play far less of an effect.
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  And then you go to Wimbledon and on grass you can slide.
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  It's not the same. The ball doesn't actually have
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  much traction when it hits the ground.
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  It's similar to clay, but the ball balance is low because
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  grass absorbs more. There's so much to consider
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  between each of these tournaments.
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  So periodisation is actually quite sensible in that sense if
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  you're going to aim for a specific tournament.
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  The other thing that you have to consider in these different
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  locations is also what like the environment's like.
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  So in Melbourne hot, it's not crazy.
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  It's actually not that different from the UK, I'm told by a
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  Melbourne local. But depending on when you're
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  playing, and I know the US Open and a lot of these tournaments
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  now you, you end up being indoors, quite controlled
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  environments. But there are days when women,
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  it's like 42° and they leave the the thing open.
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  And so you've got to be physically prepared in that
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  sense. So that is where through your
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  periodisation you can start working on different elements
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  like training your energy system.
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  I think also like if you look at the calendar for the season, you
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  just you can't you can't be ready for all the tournaments.
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  And that's why, you know, it'd be a really cool thing to be
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  able to say I'm going to win all of these Masters 1000 events
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  across the season. There's nine of them.
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  But when you look at if you got to Wimbledon finals, which
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  you've got to put money on Yanixin are doing, there's such
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  a short turn around from that event into I think it's Toronto.
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  There's just like you can't get to all of the the events.
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  And if you even if you even if you get to the Wimbledon finals.
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  He then managed to make it to Toronto.
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  You're just going to be so fatigued emotionally,
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  physically. So it takes like a very special
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  player to be able to go and, and do that.
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  But did you know what, like all of the critics in the, in the,
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  the world of tennis are saying like you have to, he's the Alex
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  Sinner currently is, is beatable, but you're going to
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  have to catch him on like a really good day for you and a
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  really bad day for him because he's like, he's playing such
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  consistent, such good tennis that he's he's really difficult
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  to beat. So.
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  With tournaments like this immediately with some of the
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  episodes that people have listened to before about
• 18:41
  tapering for things now in skill based sports or higher skill
• 18:46
  based sports, the idea of tapering appears to drop off
• 18:49
  slightly in terms of they're such mental load sports that
• 18:55
  mentally need to be a good place.
• 18:57
  Typically to be confident in yourself, you need to know that
• 19:00
  you're on a similar surface or you're playing well before you
• 19:02
  go into the tournament. Which is why for those of you
• 19:04
  that will recognise Queens or what's Bournemouth as well for,
• 19:09
  is it Eastbourne, is it Eastbourne?
• 19:11
  Sorry. Yeah.
• 19:11
  So Eastbourne, they're both Lawn Tennis tournaments that happen
• 19:14
  before Wimbledon and they play right up until the week before
• 19:17
  Wimbledon. A lot of players that are coming
• 19:19
  in for a big year at Wimbledon will play in those tournaments.
• 19:21
  Get used to the surface. You'll also get a bit more same
• 19:24
  with what's going on right now with Yannick before he goes into
• 19:26
  Roland Garros. They back right into each other,
• 19:28
  so he could well be playing a final on Sunday if he gets
• 19:32
  there, and then he could be playing his first round of
• 19:35
  Roland Garros a day or two later.
• 19:37
  So there isn't really this idea of tapering.
• 19:39
  However, because there is a tournament, the volume and
• 19:43
  training load prior is not as intense because they are trying
• 19:46
  to recover between each game. So in that sense, total volume
• 19:51
  and time on court probably does drop.
• 19:53
  However, the actual like intensity judge.
• 19:57
  So that's where when he's actually training and going
• 20:01
  through these blocks, what we, what we know and what we have
• 20:03
  got from our sources, again, quotes from his from his coaches
• 20:08
  is that he will be doing pretty intense 90 to 120 minute plus
• 20:12
  sessions on the court at a time and.
• 20:16
  A lot of that will include in the lead up to tournament live
• 20:19
  haul sessions. So whether that is a tennis ball
• 20:22
  machine or just the coach on the other side, put them in
• 20:24
  repetitive, difficult positions. However, one of the other
• 20:27
  things, reactive drills is one of the key elements of tennis
• 20:32
  because you never really know where the other person going to
• 20:34
  put the ball. The more you play, the more you
• 20:36
  know, the more you watch it. You'll understand when they're
• 20:38
  in a baseline slog back and forth that can go on for 10-15
• 20:43
  shots before someone does a drop shot, but it could have come two
• 20:46
  shots before. You don't know.
• 20:47
  And so there'll be a lot of reactive drills.
• 20:50
  One of the best things I think in coaching is that that is
• 20:54
  where you get to test your players ability to be agile, to
• 20:58
  be fast. And so that's where a lot of the
• 21:01
  tennis court base drills come in, in that you wouldn't
• 21:04
  necessarily have to have like 4 cones out and tell your athlete
• 21:08
  I need you to run diagonally across the cones and then make
• 21:10
  the shot. You could do that without
• 21:11
  telling them by putting the ball in the right place.
• 21:14
  And what I loved as well when I was younger, and this actually
• 21:16
  happened in badminton, but it happens in tennis as well, is
• 21:19
  that as a coach, if you have a good player, you can tell them
• 21:23
  they need to return the ball to you, which means that you can
• 21:26
  make your life really difficult for them.
• 21:28
  You're basically standing still and just hitting it over.
• 21:31
  And obviously these guys are professional coaches and they
• 21:33
  are bad at the sport themselves. So as long as it's within a
• 21:36
  radius of them, you can challenge the player and you can
• 21:40
  give them a really hard game without actually having to be
• 21:44
  that like as artistically gifted.
• 21:46
  So a lot of those sessions, like I said, you'll be trying to move
• 21:50
  the player across, keep them on their toes, keep them surprised.
• 21:53
  Those will be slightly shorter because they are intense both
• 21:55
  mentally and physically. Store that change direction.
• 21:58
  But then there will be longer blocks where it is literally
• 22:01
  just baseline shot, baseline shot, baseline shot, winner.
• 22:05
  It's almost like conditioning, isn't it?
• 22:07
  Exactly. Yeah, Yeah.
• 22:08
  But it's also, and this is where Marco came in, is being so
• 22:13
  consistent a type of shot. So if it's like I'm going to get
• 22:17
  you to hit the baseline from your baseline, you have to hit a
• 22:21
  out of these 10 and it has to hit the white tape at the back
• 22:23
  of the court. And we're going to do that until
• 22:26
  not until I'm happy that you've hit a out of 10, until I'm happy
• 22:29
  that your technique look the same for those to let alone only
• 22:33
  hit. So that's like the kind of
• 22:34
  training that goes in, which is you can tell by the way we're
• 22:38
  talking mentally, the focus that you have to have that is quite
• 22:41
  intense, but physically to be able to match up to the mental
• 22:43
  intensity, like that's also very, very intense.
• 22:45
  So that's, that's like another argument for me of why tennis
• 22:49
  players are like the pinnacle because you have all of that.
• 22:54
  I, I saw something recently, I'm not going to quote numbers, but
• 22:58
  the amount of time you have to react to a serve at the top
• 23:01
  level in tennis, like it's 0.00 seconds, something like that,
• 23:06
  like point, whatever, There's no time.
• 23:08
  It's just like a inherent, like I have to dig it out because
• 23:13
  it's really interesting and why you see a lot of players jump as
• 23:17
  the, their opponents serving because I can't remember the,
• 23:21
  the, the physics behind it. It's, it's honestly incredible
• 23:23
  how fast they react, but they have that the speed of decision
• 23:27
  making and then also just the mental fatigue of having to try
• 23:32
  and outwit their opponent because they're facing someone
• 23:34
  else. You, you, I always put golf
• 23:36
  because it's also very high skill sport.
• 23:39
  It doesn't have all of the physical stuff behind it like
• 23:41
  tennis does, but in terms of skill, it's very, very skill
• 23:44
  demanding, even probably higher than tennis.
• 23:46
  Maybe arguably, but you're not competing against someone
• 23:51
  directly one-on-one. They might be in the same group
• 23:54
  as you on the final day, or they might be a couple of holes
• 23:56
  behind her head and you can hear the crowd or you can see the
• 23:58
  leaderboard. And yes, you're trying to beat
• 24:00
  them. But at the end of the day, you
• 24:01
  just have to play your best golf and you're at the mercy of the
• 24:04
  course basically. And how well you understand
• 24:06
  gradients and undulation and the wind.
• 24:09
  So you're not actually like hitting shots back and forth
• 24:12
  against someone. But then also when you think
• 24:14
  about I'm running to return the ball and there's so many
• 24:18
  different positions that I've got to be in when I hit the
• 24:21
  shot. So you're talking about
• 24:22
  consistency of hitting basically a similar shot like baseline to
• 24:26
  baseline or cross court. Cross court in golf, when you
• 24:29
  set up, let's say I'm on the tee box, how often are you going to
• 24:32
  change the position of your feet?
• 24:34
  How often are you going to change your grip?
• 24:35
  How often are you going to change the position?
• 24:37
  It's very, very similar always unless you're on like a slight
• 24:40
  gradient or you're in the rough or you're in a bunker.
• 24:42
  There's so many different variables.
• 24:45
  When you're running to hit the shot, you're running towards the
• 24:47
  net, you need to hit a slice or however, it's like there's so
• 24:50
  many different things that you need to be good at to hit just
• 24:54
  one shot in tennis. Like it's, it's incredible when
• 24:57
  you think about the depth and the layers that these players
• 24:59
  have to their game. I'm going to hone in or
• 25:01
  something. And you said kind of early on
• 25:03
  there was the jump at the yeah, yeah, this is going to come from
• 25:07
  a different sport, but I think people find this really
• 25:09
  interesting. Yeah.
• 25:10
  When I was playing American football and we have wide
• 25:13
  receivers and this is also important, athletics.
• 25:15
  Did you ever get picked up on in athletics a full step at the
• 25:18
  start of a run or a start of a Sprint?
• 25:22
  Like if you like a full start, no.
• 25:25
  It's called a full step. So if I told anybody listening,
• 25:30
  watching or yourself to stand behind the line and when I say
• 25:34
  go, go. You're knocked down.
• 25:37
  You're like just stood on 2 feet.
• 25:39
  Do you know what happens to 99.999% of people when they
• 25:44
  actually go with their front foot?
• 25:48
  It's like a stutter like. See what happens and people can
• 25:51
  please do try this because even knowing it, knowing what I'm
• 25:54
  about to tell you will still do the wrong thing.
• 25:56
  So you'll start with one foot in front of the other and you'll
• 25:58
  have most of your weight on that front foot.
• 26:01
  OK, what people then do I? Thought I was just like standing
• 26:03
  in my feet to get OK. So when when most people do,
• 26:07
  pretty much everyone will do and even I will still do it is as
• 26:10
  soon as someone says go and I'm allowed to go the weight with
• 26:13
  most of my foot, sorry the foot with most of my weight on it, I
• 26:16
  will lift that foot up with back and then go forward.
• 26:19
  Rather than driving your back leg forwards.
• 26:20
  So that is the full step. Now, interestingly, in American
• 26:25
  football, we had to coach our receivers out of doing it
• 26:27
  because it costs you a split second.
• 26:29
  And The thing is, if you watch at the very high level, they
• 26:32
  obviously just do it because they're good enough.
• 26:34
  But that split second when you're a far lower level is
• 26:37
  actually quite important and it's good for people to
• 26:40
  understand how their bodies work.
• 26:42
  In a reactive sport you can pre emptively do the full step
• 26:47
  before the thing happens. By reckon football, if you full
• 26:49
  start by doing full step you get flagged as penalty.
• 26:52
  In tennis, if you want to put yourself in a reactive position,
• 26:56
  you can bring the weight of your money, which allows you to make
• 26:59
  the weight, the shift to direction, a lot easier.
• 27:02
  And so in effect, if you told the players that they weren't
• 27:05
  allowed to move, they would still do a full step in a
• 27:08
  direction to shift their body weight so we can move away.
• 27:10
  By jumping, you've deloaded your body.
• 27:13
  So when you see in the air that it's going on where you can land
• 27:16
  in the position you'll be in, which is like a tiny, tiny
• 27:19
  thing. Yeah, yeah, most.
• 27:21
  So everybody, I've said you can try the Sprint thing.
• 27:24
  I guarantee you if I was to hit a ball to you doing tennis, your
• 27:27
  body would naturally alleviate or lift up a little bit to make
• 27:30
  it easier to change direction. However, if you then, after this
• 27:34
  incredible piece of insight into your own brain, went and did the
• 27:38
  full step thing, you would do it anyway.
• 27:40
  You'd find it so hard not to do it.
• 27:43
  So it's interesting how your body will naturally adapt.
• 27:45
  But particularly top level tennis players are definitely
• 27:48
  doing a little hop as they see the serve coming because there
• 27:52
  is a degree. It's a bit like a penalty.
• 27:53
  As a goalkeeper you are having to guess and you will know
• 27:56
  probably the statistics of where they're going to.
• 27:58
  Put the well you see. Goalkeepers do very similar
• 27:59
  thing as well. They like it's the exact same
• 28:01
  thing so. That's so interesting.
• 28:03
  Yeah. Now, so just on that point,
• 28:05
  yeah. And this is so like irrelevant
• 28:08
  to the conversation to to see how unathletic someone is.
• 28:13
  Yes, you go set up as if you're about to Sprint and they go same
• 28:18
  arm forwards as same leg forwards.
• 28:20
  All hazels that treat some people.
• 28:22
  There's always that one person there.
• 28:24
  You're like. OK, you've never played sport
• 28:25
  before in life. And then to be fair, I say that
• 28:27
  and then you see me running in my arms like Tommy Fury running
• 28:30
  down the line. I have to really think so hard
• 28:32
  about using my elbows. Now what we're going to do,
• 28:37
  we're going to preface this bit by saying this bit we haven't
• 28:40
  got from sources. Now hopefully you guys are on
• 28:42
  are OK with that. We understand training to a
• 28:44
  relative degree. So we're going to go go through
• 28:46
  basically what a weekly training, not block, but like
• 28:52
  what a segment of training might look like through a week.
• 28:54
  So yes, we've said that a lot of stuff is done outside on a
• 28:58
  course, sorry, inside on a court, wherever the court is.
• 29:01
  But there are things that still need to happen away from that to
• 29:04
  develop the strength, develop the power that is part of that
• 29:06
  essential sort of training system that you you are as a as
• 29:10
  a tennis player. So things like your compound
• 29:14
  lifts, dead lifts, upper body work, sort of overhead
• 29:18
  shoulders, shoulder press, A lot of the stuff that you would do
• 29:21
  is like a full body session could happen early on in the
• 29:24
  week. Obviously this is we're going to
• 29:27
  be looking at a wheat which isn't impacted by tournament
• 29:28
  play because there's a lot of recovery for that.
• 29:30
  But big things which convert well into tennis are single leg
• 29:35
  movement big time, not particularly deep movements.
• 29:43
  I would say because you're never in a full depth squad, you're
• 29:45
  never going to be doing anything like a proper straight bar.
• 29:48
  Deadlift and trap bar is absolutely fine.
• 29:50
  And then again, and we've spoken about this in lots of different
• 29:53
  sports, the plyometric side of things, doing jumps, being able
• 29:55
  to teach your body to take the force in certain positions and
• 29:58
  again do them single leg as well as dual.
• 30:00
  It's like the agility thing. It's like minimising the time it
• 30:03
  takes to change direction, which is what agility is.
• 30:06
  So it's like if you are running across, sliding, hit your shot
• 30:10
  and you're like, well, I can almost preempt that.
• 30:12
  They're going to hit get it again to the other side of the
• 30:14
  court. So I have to get back on my but
• 30:15
  I can like get across and yes, and what's really fun and what's
• 30:19
  really interesting, it probably isn't fun or interesting at all.
• 30:23
  But if you if you watch any sport and you go, if I was their
• 30:26
  trainer in the gym, based off their movement mechanics in the
• 30:30
  sport and my understanding of exercise, my exercise library,
• 30:34
  what exercises am I prescribing them?
• 30:37
  And that's really fun to do across all sports.
• 30:39
  It's like if you watch a boxing fight or you watch golfers or
• 30:42
  you watch tennis players or you watch footballers or you watch
• 30:44
  skiers, it's like, what do I? And like there's so much
• 30:47
  crossover. And I always say this, there's
• 30:48
  so much crossover. But yeah, the single leg stuff
• 30:51
  like front foot elevated split squats or Bulgarian split squats
• 30:56
  or whatever, it's Pogo jumps. I think also like a lot of Med
• 30:59
  ball rotation because it's like when you hit the ball it's like
• 31:03
  I need to be strong in that position.
• 31:05
  There's an element of this every day because this happens
• 31:07
  especially when they're out on court.
• 31:08
  But just in general, core training is probably the most
• 31:12
  I've imagined in the sport. So it's also how do you control
• 31:17
  and stabilize your core when your body is not in a perfect
• 31:20
  position. So when you said like Med ball
• 31:21
  throws, there's also going to be a point where you're not
• 31:25
  perfectly stood on sideways because actually when you hit a
• 31:27
  tennis shot, and we always just use this term when we were
• 31:30
  throwing. But like you stand in an open
• 31:32
  stance. So your left foot is is not
• 31:35
  aligned with your right foot like this in golf to allow your
• 31:37
  hips to rotate through. So then are you able to not only
• 31:40
  release the ball in that fashion, can you catch it there?
• 31:43
  Because in the off chance that you are in an awkward position
• 31:46
  and you're running left and they actually shoot right, can you
• 31:48
  generate enough force? Force absorption exactly.
• 31:51
  So a lot of the core workers around that in order to be able
• 31:56
  to just, a lot of what a lot of athletes do generally is they
• 32:01
  prepare their bodies to be capable of doing something.
• 32:04
  Yeah. It's like doing necessarily
• 32:06
  train their body how to do 10 shots.
• 32:08
  It is allow my body to be able to do 100 variations of these
• 32:12
  ten shots and not bother too much about how it gets it done
• 32:15
  as long as it does. And then so you made a note of
• 32:18
  also like deceleration because like that's just as important as
• 32:21
  acceleration. And like when you think about
• 32:25
  the balls coming cross court or it's coming to the net, I have
• 32:27
  to Sprint my hardest at it to get there in time.
• 32:31
  I need to adjust my feet as I'm getting to the ball.
• 32:33
  How am I adjusting my feet? It's me slowing down.
• 32:36
  And that's like that's something that you need to train your body
• 32:39
  and and your muscles to do as well.
• 32:40
  Well, not only is there like a a lot of people watching the seats
• 32:44
  that you can fall into if you're running for a cross court shot,
• 32:46
  but if you touch the net, you lose the point.
• 32:49
  So like if there's a really cheeky drop shot, it's back spin
• 32:52
  you've got to get there with and stop probably within a yard
• 32:55
  because that's how accurate they are with the drop shot.
• 32:57
  It's incredible. It's yeah, it's crazy.
• 33:01
  There is a mention on this suggested weekly routine of like
• 33:04
  more of an aerobic base work day.
• 33:06
  I kind of disagree with it being a whole day around that because
• 33:09
  there will still be so much tennis court time around this.
• 33:12
  It would literally just be a suggestion of doing something
• 33:16
  slightly easy. So this is where an easy run can
• 33:19
  come in, an easy bite depending on how the body's feeling.
• 33:21
  But again, it's not like in other forms of training where
• 33:24
  it's like you need to hit a certain number of hours because
• 33:27
  in their training, it's a bit like the dad going to a a park
• 33:33
  run that doesn't really know about his training because all
• 33:35
  his runs actually do span because he only trains off
• 33:37
  field. So a lot of those sessions
• 33:39
  actually span all the different intensities of training.
• 33:41
  So it's not like I'm looking at my straw every week and I've
• 33:43
  only done five hours of Zone 2 this week.
• 33:45
  It's like the whole thing's a mess, All of the all of those.
• 33:48
  Zones play an actual game. It's a mess as well.
• 33:51
  Exactly. Yeah, exactly that.
• 33:52
  So. Then mobility and recovery
• 33:56
  always going to be a big thing in elite sport.
• 34:00
  One of the major things with this sport with the lateral
• 34:03
  change of direction, you see, it's a lot of basketball players
• 34:05
  as well, is hip recovery and doing the mobility the 1990s,
• 34:10
  but also doing a lot of banded work around the hips to make
• 34:12
  sure that they're stable enough when you come to your next
• 34:15
  session, but also that you've released.
• 34:16
  Because I I also get this if I'm sat down for a long time and I
• 34:20
  get tight in my lower back and my glutes.
• 34:22
  But I can imagine if they're not sat down for a long time, but
• 34:24
  they are constantly moving side to side and then powerfully
• 34:28
  forwards and backwards, then there's going to be a lot of
• 34:31
  like pump a lot of tightness around those hips.
• 34:34
  And again, if you, if you the next day, fair enough.
• 34:38
  You can't recover in 12 hours because you're usually in a
• 34:42
  tournament, you're not playing the next day, but you usually
• 34:45
  play every other day in the big tournament.
• 34:47
  So you need to be arguably in a better position than you were
• 34:51
  for your last game in two days time because you're playing a
• 34:53
  better person. So, yeah, but then again, it's
• 34:56
  like, does it get levelled because they're also in the same
• 35:01
  position? So it does just become a can I
• 35:03
  recover more than my opponent and then the luck of the draw,
• 35:07
  have I played earlier in the week than they have played or
• 35:10
  whatever? So there's lots of factors that
• 35:12
  go into it. But one thing that I'm because I
• 35:14
  everything's rotation in tennis, rotation, rotation.
• 35:18
  One thing that I'm sure they're all starting to do more of now,
• 35:22
  rather than just my focus is on having like mobility through my
• 35:26
  thoracic and mobile through my my trunk.
• 35:30
  They're doing less kind of like stretching and more actual
• 35:35
  strength in the rotation. There's lots of weird, wacky
• 35:37
  drills that you'll see on social media of any sports person who
• 35:41
  does rotational drills for they're, they're kind of like
• 35:44
  sports specific, but there's a lot of strength stuff around it.
• 35:48
  And it's something that I've started to play around with as
• 35:50
  well for golf because I was like, well, I'm really tight
• 35:53
  through my upper back and I was like spent ages doing lots of
• 35:56
  stretching and then I was actually like, maybe it's just
• 35:58
  I'm weak in that position. And the more strength stuff I've
• 36:01
  done, the more range I've got in my golf swing.
• 36:04
  And I'm sure it's something similar that they're doing in
• 36:05
  their their tennis. That's the same thing with,
• 36:08
  well, with like anterior pelvic tilt, because you can actually
• 36:11
  be really strong in a, in a contracted position and you can
• 36:14
  be pretty strong in a relaxed position if you're a core.
• 36:17
  But in between the two, you crap.
• 36:18
  Yeah, yeah. So you resort to one or the
• 36:20
  other. Sure.
• 36:21
  Which is exactly where I am. And the, there's a really
• 36:26
  interesting insight. You know, lastly, when we were
• 36:28
  talking about Formula One drivers, if you haven't listened
• 36:30
  to that episode, go back and listen.
• 36:31
  I thought I would love to know an insight if anyone has one, on
• 36:35
  the fuelling strategy. And then like they're being, if
• 36:38
  they're, is it a carb mix, they're drinking, they're only
• 36:40
  having water, are they having electrolytes, that kind of
• 36:42
  thing. I would love if there's any
• 36:44
  stats nerds out there or people that are supposed to be working
• 36:47
  and you want to look busy right now, go to your Google tab and
• 36:52
  type in and find out for us, for those that have won major
• 36:57
  tournaments earlier on in the tournament, when they're playing
• 37:00
  someone at a lower level, when they have lost a set, is it by
• 37:04
  quite a big gap? Because hear me out.
• 37:07
  That's what I'm thinking if I'm Yannick and I know that I need
• 37:10
  to get to the the weekend and I have a really bad game within a
• 37:14
  set. You just let it go.
• 37:16
  Do I say, OK, I'm 31 down and they're playing well, I'm 31
• 37:22
  down. Do I just let them have this set
• 37:24
  and recover and take this easier so it doesn't affect me that
• 37:27
  much later in the week? And then I come out next two
• 37:29
  sets and I just win the next two sets.
• 37:30
  I go hard for those. Or do I try and recover it and
• 37:33
  get this game done now at the risk of it being more intense
• 37:36
  and losing anyway in the set? I I, yeah, I also think that as
• 37:41
  well. But I'm just like, if you've
• 37:42
  made it to the top level of tennis, you're like a die hard
• 37:46
  competitor and all you care about is as many favourable
• 37:50
  stats, see your name as possible.
• 37:51
  So it's like I want to win as much as I can in straight sets
• 37:55
  and I want to drop as few games as possible.
• 37:57
  So I think when you're when you're down in a match, you're
• 38:00
  not even thinking about the next match.
• 38:02
  I like to think that is the. Case I'm going to try and win
• 38:04
  this because I just I'm I'm a competitor and I want to be the
• 38:07
  best and I. Want to win.
• 38:08
  I just, I just wonder if there has been if there is like a even
• 38:12
  if they're they're subconsciously doing it, but if
• 38:14
  there is a power like in. Maybe in a game where you're
• 38:16
  like, you're 40, love down, you're like, am I really going
• 38:19
  to fight for this one point? That's a better job.
• 38:21
  That's probably more realistic. That would be really interesting
• 38:25
  if someone is willing to do the I'm sure.
• 38:27
  The stats exist. We would love to.
• 38:29
  Well, do you know what? I'll invite you on and you can
• 38:31
  present your information to everybody.
• 38:32
  I'd love that. We need a statistician.
• 38:34
  Yeah, statistician long who knows, I didn't do math
• 38:39
  statistics at a level for that reason.
• 38:42
  OK. So kind of as a bit of a, a, we,
• 38:45
  we give a very brief insight into what a weekly overview
• 38:49
  would be because a lot of it is just working on the different
• 38:51
  skill sets of training based on how the body's feeling and where
• 38:55
  you are in the block in terms of intensity and just volume.
• 38:59
  I'm not going to go into specific Monday, Tuesday,
• 39:01
  Wednesday, Thursday, apart from what we said is that the
• 39:03
  strength work might happen towards the beginning of the
• 39:05
  week and then more core specific things that the weekend because
• 39:11
  they're shorter sessions. Like whether you're doing like a
• 39:14
  game simulation, you're playing one or two cents at a time.
• 39:18
  Then yeah, I mean, in terms of a comparison to other players, I
• 39:22
  think at the top of the game at the moment, we've still got Nova
• 39:24
  Drakoric. She's not going anywhere anytime
• 39:26
  soon, but Carlos Alcaraz has really come through.
• 39:29
  He's probably my comparison, for those that don't know tennis but
• 39:34
  do know football would be Yannick is more like a Cristiano
• 39:37
  Ronaldo in that he's really had to work on a lot of things,
• 39:41
  developed physically to become the player he is, and he's quite
• 39:44
  a calculated player. And then you've got Alcoraz,
• 39:47
  which is a bit more of a messy, very gifted and talented in what
• 39:52
  he does. He's also probably more
• 39:54
  powerful. That's what I was interested
• 39:56
  about earlier to see kind of like the difference between how
• 39:59
  Carlos trains versus Yannick training because does Yannick
• 40:02
  spend more time on the weights because he needs to put on size
• 40:05
  and he's finds it harder to maintain size?
• 40:08
  And is Carlos naturally slightly stronger, slightly more, I don't
• 40:13
  know, thicker set and as a result he can get away with
• 40:16
  doing less training in the weights room?
• 40:19
  They'll be interested to see that comparison, but to be
• 40:21
  honest with you, I'm sure they're all doing like a lot of
• 40:23
  the same stuff and they're all in terms of like duration of
• 40:27
  training per week. They're probably all doing
• 40:29
  similar hours, but it just might be a bit more specific based off
• 40:33
  their individual needs. Well, maybe when we get to
• 40:35
  Wimbledon sort of time based on who's run, rolling arrows, we'll
• 40:38
  go. We might do arrows and we can do
• 40:40
  a comparison episode. Compras is always a key favorite
• 40:43
  for Wimbledon as well with Novak.
• 40:45
  Should we just invite them on? I mean, he's going to be far
• 40:48
  away. You're actually not far away.
• 40:49
  For those of you that want to know some behind the scenes, I'm
• 40:51
  probably 10 minute drive away from Wimbledon.
• 40:54
  You got a spare room, Why not? Offer it out to Carlos.
• 40:57
  Yeah, might love it, my guy. Do you know what?
• 41:00
  If Yannick wins rolling out so I'll give him first dibs.
• 41:02
  If I was that drop him a message off the mindset, why not?
• 41:07
  I think to be honest, that's probably like a relatively good
• 41:10
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• 41:11
  specific questions or you there's anything else you think
• 41:13
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• 41:15
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• 41:17
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• 41:20
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• 41:56
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• 42:01
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• 42:06
  We've got lots of people. Writing in we yeah, we've had
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  And again, a reminder that we actually will not ignore you
• 42:15
  because we, we love to hear it. And it takes the pressure off us
• 42:17
  to be angry all the time. And do you want to start or
• 42:20
  should I start? I've got I don't know what my
• 42:24
  grind, my gear specifically is here, but I think it's just it
• 42:27
  has to be bad PT ING. OK, so I'm in the gym, my local
• 42:33
  gym. I'm on the Echo bike, the fan
• 42:35
  bike. I'm doing my VO2 Max effort, so
• 42:38
  I'm staring at this one wall for 50 minutes or so, but in front
• 42:43
  of me is like the functional area.
• 42:45
  And there's APT with his client and I slowly start to see them
• 42:48
  building the height of the box because they're doing toolbox
• 42:51
  jumps. It's the ply box, so it's
• 42:52
  slightly softer. This guy's good.
• 42:54
  He's got pretty good jump on him.
• 42:56
  We're getting to like 32 inch building up, building up.
• 42:59
  Finally we get to 45 inches, so pretty tall.
• 43:02
  Yeah, it's good. And the guy, he jumps and he
• 43:05
  doesn't quite make it so like his his toes kind of clip the
• 43:09
  top of the box, but it's OK because it's a soft box supply
• 43:11
  box. He kind of captures himself,
• 43:13
  pops himself, no harm done. He looks at the PT and honesty,
• 43:19
  honest to God, this is what he said.
• 43:21
  He said try jumping higher. And I was like, you're paying
• 43:26
  this guy money to help you with your training, and all he has to
• 43:30
  say is jump higher. I don't know what it's like.
• 43:37
  Have you tried being better? I don't understand how someone
• 43:41
  can choose to do that as a professional and care that
• 43:44
  little little about what they do.
• 43:46
  I I was just like, maybe he's joking, but then I then I sat
• 43:49
  because I was like, that's not a good it's.
• 43:51
  Something I would say to you. I was between us, but I was
• 43:53
  like, that's not good coaching. But then also, he's not wrong.
• 43:57
  He's not wrong. He's not, actually.
• 43:59
  Just needs to jump high. Yeah, but it's like, could you
• 44:01
  give him some like feedback on maybe where he was standing or
• 44:05
  what he was doing with his hips or maybe was did you pull?
• 44:07
  Your toes up an arm, that kind of thing.
• 44:09
  The guys just like, bad. Yeah, it's just like on a
• 44:12
  deadlift. Why don't you just lift heavier?
• 44:16
  Yeah. Oh, well, like, you know, when
• 44:18
  someone's like doing a pull up? Yeah.
• 44:20
  And they're like nearly there, nearly there or standing out at
• 44:22
  the bottom of the squat and someone's just standing there
• 44:24
  going up, up, up, up, up. I'm like, what do you think
• 44:27
  they're thinking or what do you think they're trying to do?
• 44:29
  Yeah, I hate that. Yeah, you've got James has
• 44:33
  written in this week. OK, bit of a weird time of year
• 44:36
  for this one actually because I feel like the rugby season, if
• 44:40
  it is rugby, I don't know what are the seasons or what other
• 44:43
  things use. For gum.
• 44:44
  Shields that boil at home, gum Shields, which is a fan, not a
• 44:48
  fan at all. And I can I can agree with this.
• 44:51
  Did you ever, and this isn't a plug, but Opro, did you ever
• 44:54
  have an Opro gum shield? Yeah.
• 44:56
  OK, so a lot of people also used to hate the process with Opro
• 44:59
  gum Shields because they came along with the the dough, the
• 45:01
  warm minty dough. I fucking love.
• 45:04
  That gum shield day was honestly a highlight of my year.
• 45:07
  It was so cool. So you would look through the
• 45:09
  catalog of Opro designs of. What colour you're getting I
• 45:12
  could get. Yeah, this colour, I could get a
• 45:13
  United Kingdom flag, I could get South African flag if I wanted
• 45:16
  to, and I don't know why I would I?
• 45:17
  Hope it was so. Good and I would always just go
• 45:19
  for the clear one because it was cheapest.
• 45:21
  One one season I went full gold. You, you were the target of our
• 45:27
  team. We rock up and we'd be like.
• 45:28
  Yeah, and I'm wearing like bright pink boots as well, and I
• 45:31
  was like 12. The thing So for those that
• 45:33
  didn't have like a properly fitted gum shield is like.
• 45:37
  Oh, I loved it. Having a retainer done so they
• 45:40
  do a very similar process, but they mould your teeth and then
• 45:42
  they mould the gum shield to it. So when you put it in it stays.
• 45:45
  You can talk, you know it's so good and like they're just
• 45:48
  better quality. But when you have to use a boil
• 45:51
  at home 1 and you have to boil that thing until it is scorching
• 45:54
  and then shove it in your mouth, bite down and it doesn't even
• 45:58
  stay really it just drops on. I've always.
• 46:00
  Said I had like good experience with a boil at home gum Shields.
• 46:03
  I used to have a flavoured boil at home gum orange flavour.
• 46:05
  Oh, nice. Yeah.
• 46:06
  I don't. I don't know if I like because I
• 46:08
  had a proper gum shield for like the majority of the time I was
• 46:11
  playing, maybe towards the back end when I was playing less
• 46:13
  frequently. But I don't know if this like
• 46:15
  ruins the structure integrity of the gum shield.
• 46:18
  But I'd boil it like most times I played to make sure it was
• 46:21
  like stuck you. Definitely weren't supposed to
• 46:23
  do that, but I was. It was like stickier, I think,
• 46:26
  yeah. But I never made any tackles and
• 46:28
  never got in any contact, so I was all good.
• 46:30
  See, I sometimes I had just had it in my socks.
• 46:32
  I had a. Few and I had a spare when I was
• 46:35
  playing American football because I left my Opro
• 46:37
  sometimes. But these things that you know,
• 46:41
  like you boil them one time, you push it up, it burns.
• 46:43
  So then you're like, you don't properly go for it.
• 46:45
  You take it out and then you're like, ow, that's not good enough
• 46:49
  or I've, I've probably fucked it up.
• 46:51
  So then you reboiled it because you're you're allowed to do it a
• 46:54
  certain number of times. You put it back in, you make it
• 46:56
  a bit better and now your teeth are actually hurting.
• 46:59
  So then you don't bother and then you come to game day and
• 47:02
  you put it in and it basically just sits between your teeth.
• 47:05
  Yeah, yeah, crap, terrible. So his his grind.
• 47:07
  My gear was I don't like boy at home gum shoots.
• 47:10
  Yeah, I think you should if you're going to play contact
• 47:12
  sport or a sport like hockey or like go and get, go and get
• 47:15
  done. It's so pretty much.
• 47:17
  Did you ever like chew it? Yeah.
• 47:19
  Yeah, yeah. And then it just like flattens
• 47:21
  at the end. No, it must.
• 47:23
  Be because I always chewed my enclosed so it held its shape
• 47:26
  because I knew people did that and it went flat and it would
• 47:28
  like break I. Used to do the Henry Pollock
• 47:30
  before it was cool and just like have it out the side and just
• 47:32
  chew on it. Well, I used to have to do that
• 47:33
  to be able to shout. If I was changing a plate I
• 47:38
  could speak with the oppro but I couldn't like be specific.
• 47:40
  Because you not have the one that like attached to your
• 47:43
  helmet, your cage. So no, because those were the
• 47:46
  boiler homes, and they never fit your teeth like a fashion.
• 47:48
  So when you put that in, it just doesn't fit the ones that you
• 47:51
  see. Yeah, the fashion seams that you
• 47:52
  see in the NFL, they're all like silicon.
• 47:54
  They're really soft. They actually you do nothing.
• 47:56
  Oh, perfect. And you just shove it in because
• 47:57
  it's got a cool thing that goes over your lips and looks like, I
• 47:59
  know bare teeth or something. I was like, yeah, I wouldn't be
• 48:04
  able to use those because you wouldn't be able to hear me
• 48:05
  talk. Sure.
• 48:07
  Next one I've got is from Katie Meal prep companies and their
• 48:11
  fake ads sponsor an actual podcast, which I rate so much.
• 48:14
  Thank you very much. If there are any meal prep
• 48:16
  companies, just send them to us. We'll we'll figure it out.
• 48:19
  But I have also seen. I know exactly what you're
• 48:21
  talking about. Name them or we could do it.
• 48:24
  We could do a better job for simmer thrive.
• 48:30
  I don't know if callow have done the fake podcast things, but
• 48:35
  regardless, your food might actually be good.
• 48:38
  You are wasting yourself on on the advertising.
• 48:41
  So if you haven't seen it would just be like someone with a
• 48:45
  microphone a bit like we are here just being like, what do
• 48:48
  you mean? I could get 35 meals made for
• 48:52
  insert separately recorded price £42.99.
• 48:58
  That's insane. I spend 8 hours a day cooking
• 49:00
  chicken at home on a Sunday. And it's it's so like the math
• 49:03
  just doesn't make sense because it's like you'll spend £85
• 49:07
  buying chicken and rice and then you'll spend 92 hours on a
• 49:10
  Sunday cooking it. Why would you?
• 49:12
  And it's just like, come on, Like if your product's good,
• 49:15
  just actually show how good the product is.
• 49:17
  If it looks nice, I'll probably want it.
• 49:20
  So that was a good one. That's so good.
• 49:21
  Have you got another one? I had someone write in and I
• 49:24
  think it's more of like a hot take than a grind my gear and it
• 49:29
  was more of like this is my hot take and discuss.
• 49:33
  Cross fitters can go and do a high ROX and probably do quite
• 49:37
  well just with their training, but high Roxers can't go to a
• 49:41
  CrossFit event and potentially even do some of the movements,
• 49:46
  let alone do well. And then it was just like a
• 49:49
  discuss. Here's my hot take.
• 49:51
  But yeah, that's completely true.
• 49:52
  Crossfitters train for all sorts of different skill variety.
• 49:57
  They learn how to Olympic weightlift, how to do
• 49:59
  gymnastics. They can run, they can row, they
• 50:03
  can ski, they can carry heavy stuff.
• 50:05
  They can push sleds, pull sleds, they can wobble.
• 50:08
  Wobble wall balling is a CrossFit movement that high
• 50:11
  rocks adopted. So all Crossfitters can go.
• 50:14
  They might not love the running component, but you see lots of
• 50:17
  like top level Crossfitters. The best example recently is
• 50:21
  really George, I don't know if you know a French athlete, he
• 50:24
  stopped competing in CrossFit because he had a bad shoulder
• 50:26
  injury. And then he turned all of his
• 50:28
  attention to becoming like this absolute freak hybrid athlete.
• 50:32
  And I think he ran like a, a low 50 something solo pro.
• 50:38
  Like he's on the he's on the brink.
• 50:40
  Like he's a great athlete. And then if you take a high
• 50:45
  Roxer and go, you need to now do a CrossFit comp, you have to
• 50:49
  snatch. They're like, what's that?
• 50:51
  Don't know how to do. I maybe can do a dumbbell
• 50:53
  snatch. You have to do toes to bar, you
• 50:55
  have to do ring muscle UPS, you have to do handstand walk in.
• 50:58
  There's lots of skills there. So it's like if you wanted a
• 51:00
  more complete training kind of methodology, you'd probably
• 51:04
  choose CrossFit. So then again, like Kyrox isn't
• 51:08
  a methodology, it's just the sport.
• 51:09
  It's an event I think. Yeah, So Hyrox is born arguably
• 51:13
  out of Crossfit's basics. So then if if I do a comparison
• 51:16
  which will hopefully quieten that debate over whether or not
• 51:19
  that's like a hierarchs athletes or real athletes.
• 51:22
  If you take ski and snowboard cross, my favorite things to
• 51:24
  watch Olympics, and then you take which, which was born out
• 51:29
  of the the independent sports, but not racing.
• 51:31
  It was born out of the extreme stuff.
• 51:33
  So if you take a half pipe snowboarder and that's like the
• 51:38
  CrossFit variant, they'll be able to, they'll be able to go
• 51:41
  and do ski, ski and snowball cross, but a ski and snowball
• 51:43
  cross person would. Can't do bad.
• 51:45
  Best be able to do anything. Yeah yeah, yeah.
• 51:47
  So I, I, I think it's fair that CrossFit is you get annoyed
• 51:51
  because hierarchs athletes can't do their sport and maybe they go
• 51:53
  misrepresented is like unfit because they might go slower
• 51:57
  than a hierarchy. But.
• 51:58
  Like that's the frustration. That's already separated
• 52:01
  themselves. Yeah, yeah.
• 52:01
  I don't look at someone that does well in a hierarchs and go,
• 52:05
  you're so much fitter. No than James Frey.
• 52:08
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, exactly.
• 52:09
  Like yeah, exactly. OK, Next one I've got is from
• 52:14
  Fran. Chain restaurants changing their
• 52:16
  menus a lot, and I've experienced this as well, so I'm
• 52:19
  going to. I don't know if this is what
• 52:21
  she's talking about, but Nando's have upset me many, many times
• 52:24
  by just taking things off their menu and then just not really
• 52:28
  like disguising it by bringing something in that no one asked
• 52:31
  for. I didn't actually want fully
• 52:33
  knoded chips. And then he broke.
• 52:35
  Yeah, exactly. Yeah.
• 52:36
  Yeah. So yeah, I think I don't.
• 52:38
  Know if there's any other good examples of that?
• 52:39
  Pizza Express have changed some stuff that was another staple
• 52:42
  when I was at uni. Pizza Express has really upset
• 52:45
  me. And I think they've changed
• 52:47
  their tomato. Sauce, by the way.
• 52:48
  Oh, really? Yeah, it's crap.
• 52:49
  I I used to fight the argument that Pizza Express was one of
• 52:53
  the most consistent dining experiences.
• 52:56
  And if you wanted a pizza that I maybe for nostalgic reasons was
• 53:02
  good. And the whole experience was
• 53:04
  nice. And I even defended the price
• 53:07
  because it is expensive to go to Pizza Express.
• 53:10
  I went to Pizza Express, not actually that recently but
• 53:14
  recently enough. The whole thing was ruined for
• 53:16
  me. My all of my like good childhood
• 53:18
  memories and experiences of Pizza Express was ruined by this
• 53:20
  one bad experience. That pizza's overpriced.
• 53:23
  It's not good and I was upset. I I think this is actually
• 53:27
  important for athletes to know about because, because when in
• 53:32
  the lead up to an event, often the event is not in your
• 53:34
  hometown, so you have to go and eat out somewhere.
• 53:37
  You want something that is reliable and good.
• 53:39
  Yeah, yeah. And for the most part with the
• 53:41
  sports we talk about, card based Nanos is always a great option
• 53:45
  because you know what you're going to get.
• 53:46
  And the more they fuck around with that, the more nervous that
• 53:48
  makes me. I don't need to deal with that
• 53:50
  mental stress. Pizza Express would be another
• 53:52
  one where I'd walk in. I'd be like, well, I know I'm
• 53:54
  going to get a Lauren on the classical.
• 53:56
  Romana, yeah, but then and Dobles.
• 53:59
  And, and I'm going to get Dobles now that's hold on a minute,
• 54:02
  hold on a minute. You've changed the pizza sauce
• 54:04
  and I don't like the pizza. Anymore they have a different
• 54:06
  base as well. You have another base option.
• 54:08
  It used to be so simple. Fernando's.
• 54:10
  At least the staples are still there.
• 54:12
  Yeah. Yeah, yeah.
• 54:14
  But. You can still get chips, Yeah.
• 54:15
  You can still get garlic bread. Yeah.
• 54:17
  And you can still get some form of chicken.
• 54:18
  Yeah, but that's not everyone's favorite thing.
• 54:20
  But at least you have this, the reliable staples.
• 54:24
  Yeah, I mean, I've lost my kids. Deal.
• 54:27
  Yeah. That's I'm sure.
• 54:28
  That's tough feeling. That was annoying.
• 54:31
  That was the best thing ever. I'm not going to go back into
• 54:33
  that. I don't got another one.
• 54:35
  I know you've got another one. OK, so we've so we've had
• 54:39
  previously we've had someone write in and they felt ignored.
• 54:41
  Their boyfriend has actually sent us in something.
• 54:43
  This time they were travelling, ignoring my girlfriend.
• 54:46
  They were they were travelling and that they were just away for
• 54:50
  work basically they went into a gym and it strictly said on
• 54:53
  multiple times. Apparently no training with
• 54:56
  shoes off. Oh, she's off.
• 54:58
  OK, OK. I don't think their fee is
• 55:01
  acceptable, but like shoes off if you're in socks is I think
• 55:04
  that's fine. That's me.
• 55:07
  So they didn't have lifting shoes and they had like some big
• 55:10
  lifts to do. They weren't going to do that in
• 55:12
  their daily shoes because that's what they had with them.
• 55:14
  So they trained with their shoes off and they just got the evils
• 55:17
  from everybody. And I think, do you know what?
• 55:21
  There's two sides to this. One, you're literally breaking
• 55:24
  the rules. So kind of Fair.
• 55:26
  Two, I disagree with the rules. So there, it's still the rule I.
• 55:31
  Get it? It's it's hard.
• 55:33
  So I have two things to say about this.
• 55:36
  The first one when you go travelling, this is arguably the
• 55:40
  most stressful thing is choosing what footwear to take because
• 55:45
  when I go away, I want to go running, I want to have just a
• 55:49
  casual pair of shoes and I probably want to go to the gym.
• 55:52
  And when I want to go to the gym, it depends what I'm going
• 55:54
  to do in there. But I don't necessarily want to
• 55:57
  wear like because my casual shoes.
• 55:58
  You could wear Vans in the gym or like Gazelles or something in
• 56:02
  the gym, Jordan ones in the gym. But actually I want a more
• 56:06
  functional shoe so I'll probably go and wear something like Rads
• 56:09
  for example. Plug there.
• 56:12
  So now I've got 3 pairs of shoes but I don't have enough space if
• 56:15
  I want to take my runners. And what if I wanted to do a
• 56:17
  fast session when I'm away? Do I have to take carbons or?
• 56:19
  It's all So I can understand why going to the gym you want to
• 56:24
  take your shoes off because you haven't got the correct
• 56:25
  footwear. But also, couldn't you just
• 56:27
  manipulate the session to do something different off program
• 56:30
  or well, no. So this is what I say to people
• 56:35
  like, I don't know if it's a hygiene thing, but if you're
• 56:40
  going to take your shoes off in my class when you're doing
• 56:42
  deadlifts, for example, because you've got like big runners on,
• 56:45
  I don't mind it. But you're taking responsibility
• 56:47
  for your feet for sure. You ain't taking your socks off
• 56:50
  because that's big red card. But if you drop something on
• 56:54
  your toes, maybe your shoes aren't going to give you that
• 56:57
  much protection anyway. But if you drop something on
• 56:59
  your shoe, on your foot in socks, it's going to be more
• 57:01
  painful. You take responsibility for
• 57:03
  that. Be sensible.
• 57:05
  But that leads me on to the second thing that also happened
• 57:07
  when I was on my fan bike efforts.
• 57:09
  This one guy, he'd got out like one of the communal mats, yoga
• 57:14
  mats, He's spent so long spraying it and wiping it.
• 57:18
  Like so long. Like he was clearly so paranoid
• 57:21
  about touching anything. Spray, spray, spray, spray,
• 57:23
  spray, spray, spray. That's right.
• 57:24
  I'm going to say 5 minutes wiping this thing down.
• 57:27
  Yeah, yeah. Went to put the spray back and
• 57:30
  as he returned, some woman just walked straight over it.
• 57:34
  It was honestly the the interaction.
• 57:36
  She was like, she wasn't even sorry.
• 57:39
  And then he did the whole thing again.
• 57:41
  He had, he went and wiped it again.
• 57:43
  That's horrible. It was really, really funny.
• 57:45
  Yeah, it was really funny. I'm just thinking if I was in
• 57:49
  the gym that had all the rules of like you can't train without
• 57:53
  socks on, I would probably go over to someone and I would
• 57:55
  probably say like, do you mind putting your shoes back on?
• 57:59
  Yeah. The only thing that would stop
• 58:00
  me doing that is if they were wearing high socks, Of course,
• 58:07
  who we are crowd and party with. And the reason that I wouldn't
• 58:10
  stop them is because I can see that they've got adequate grip
• 58:13
  on the bottom of their socks. They do, which is extremely
• 58:15
  useful not just for lifting in the gym, but for all of your
• 58:18
  other sorting fence feeling contact.
• 58:20
  Now you might also be thinking, and I promise you genuinely,
• 58:23
  this was a gram I get that got sent in and the person that's
• 58:26
  listening to this that sent it in is probably thinking how on
• 58:28
  earth have they turned this grind my gear into this?
• 58:30
  But if you are ever going away and you're travelling, then you
• 58:32
  might also benefit from podium chaser, which is connected to
• 58:35
  high socks because they have compact travel towels.
• 58:38
  Nice. Which means that you can go to
• 58:40
  the gym and you won't ever have to worry about making a mess on
• 58:43
  your map because you could just lie this down and sweat on to
• 58:47
  that. And then there's the high style
• 58:50
  and the podium chaser logo right in the middle there.
• 58:52
  That's actually my my sauna towel because it's perfect for
• 58:55
  like butt size. Butt size when you say yeah,
• 58:57
  there you go. I don't think that's on any of
• 58:59
  their current reviews, but it should be sure they add it.
• 59:02
  But yeah, guys, if you want to go and grab towels, other forms
• 59:06
  of clothing, or if you want to give the socks a go, head over
• 59:09
  to high style cloth or high socks and use the code mindset
• 59:13
  1515% off. That will mean that hopefully
• 59:16
  you don't get pestered so much by other people in the gym and
• 59:20
  you can have a bit more of a relaxing session getting the
• 59:22
  work done that you need to do. We've got to add touch rugby to
• 59:27
  the useful socks. Really.
• 59:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So good in the boots.
• 59:30
  There we go. Just like people up, left,
• 59:32
  right. I wasn't.
• 59:36
  It's worth also saying and reminding you guys again, if
• 59:38
  you're at this point and you haven't started tapping the
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• 59:48
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• 59:51
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• 59:54
  unless you guys are there. So what basically happens, if
• 59:56
  you haven't seen it, is I'll say something mildly incorrect.
• 1:00:01
  Yes. Kind of, but in the context of
• 1:00:04
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• 1:00:07
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• 1:00:10
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• 1:00:17
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  So please do your bit, genuinely subscribe and follow.
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  It means so, so much. We're a very similar point
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  followers we've got. And if we can just get like 10
• 1:00:38
  or 15% more of you to actually hit the button, we can do some
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  pretty cool things. And in fact, do you know what?
• 1:00:45
  Here right now, and I'm saying this and I know I've got it,
• 1:00:49
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  But that is another way that we can be supported.
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• 1:01:10
  And we're going to immediately make you feel better and less
• 1:01:13
  sad about us asking you to do that by getting into the game
• 1:01:16
  this week. The game is called You heard Me
• 1:01:19
  because. Wait, have you got the answers
• 1:01:21
  there on your screen? No, not.
• 1:01:22
  OK, fine, because I've written them.
• 1:01:24
  OK, fine. So I can.
• 1:01:25
  What's going to happen in this game is Charles is going to be
• 1:01:28
  given effectively a sentence of words, which sounds like
• 1:01:31
  something else. I'm sure people would have seen
• 1:01:32
  this online. He needs to tell me what
• 1:01:34
  relevant sporting thing he is saying without any guidance.
• 1:01:39
  If you're watching this online, you'll be able to see what the
• 1:01:41
  words are on screen so you can play along a bit as well.
• 1:01:44
  There are ten of these. I'm going to be so bad.
• 1:01:46
  We're going. To start off, they are so easy.
• 1:01:49
  OK, so let's go. Can you see number one there?
• 1:01:52
  Yeah. OK, so give me my glasses.
• 1:01:54
  Read it out. I can make this a little bit
• 1:01:56
  bigger for you because you are in your 30s now.
• 1:01:58
  I know. Oh, actually, side note, yeah, I
• 1:02:01
  was running around the rugby field yesterday, Yeah.
• 1:02:04
  And when Oh, my hips ref goes, how are you complaining your
• 1:02:08
  hips? What are you like 22?
• 1:02:10
  I was like, oh. Did you correct him?
• 1:02:12
  No. Yeah.
• 1:02:13
  Good one, Ref. Nice.
• 1:02:17
  I reckon the ref was younger than me as well.
• 1:02:20
  Oh, OK, well, that's that's an even bigger compliment.
• 1:02:22
  Yeah, I know. It was so good.
• 1:02:24
  OK, right, let's start with #1. My tactic is to say it fast.
• 1:02:28
  You need to just say it out loud for everyone to be able to play
• 1:02:30
  at home, regardless of whether you think you know it straight
• 1:02:32
  away. My key, My key.
• 1:02:35
  I'll Jordan. Michael Jordan.
• 1:02:38
  Straight away started easy. Good.
• 1:02:41
  OK. Next one, as long as we've got
• 1:02:43
  one. Next one.
• 1:02:44
  Are they all people They could. Be any No, they're sport
• 1:02:46
  related. God I I've Wimbleed owned teen
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• 1:02:59
  Ice Wimbledon. Tennis.
• 1:03:02
  Yes, Got it. Good.
• 1:03:05
  That was hard, OK. Next one.
• 1:03:09
  Do you want to veal tricks? Do you?
• 1:03:13
  I've played this game when it's like where is it like something
• 1:03:17
  like either really sexual or like, yeah, you know, that's
• 1:03:20
  that's that's a good game. Do you want to veal tricks, DV
• 1:03:24
  tricks or Joanna V tricks? Got it.
• 1:03:29
  Yeah. No way.
• 1:03:30
  Did you come up with these? Yeah, I did.
• 1:03:31
  I promise. That was incredible.
• 1:03:34
  That's niche, OK. You've got to read these out.
• 1:03:41
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  show Angel snow snow anal. Hang on, you're looking at it
• 1:04:08
  like I'm being stupid. Augusta starna starna show anal
• 1:04:17
  Augustana show. Is it one word?
• 1:04:20
  No, it's 2 words O goo star Nah show anal.
• 1:04:29
  The way that I would naturally say it probably is killing me.
• 1:04:32
  I think I would. I would question.
• 1:04:34
  So the first word here is OWI would say that's not O.
• 1:04:38
  Oh well, it's like ow Augusta. That might help you.
• 1:04:46
  Augusta, na show anal. Can you give me a clue?
• 1:04:52
  Golf. Oh my God, that's good.
• 1:04:58
  Augusta National. Got it.
• 1:05:00
  Wow. OK, OK, next one.
• 1:05:03
  God bear. They'll hate that Augusta
• 1:05:05
  National. They won't be happy.
• 1:05:06
  About that OK, Shaka Read Write hard son.
• 1:05:14
  Would you go Shaka re Richardson Shakari Richardson Spawn?
• 1:05:22
  Very good. You're flying at the moment.
• 1:05:23
  OK, here we go. Oh, what's that?
• 1:05:34
  What's that? Sugma.
• 1:05:34
  What's that thing? Sugma.
• 1:05:42
  I wasn't expecting this. OK, Ligma.
• 1:05:45
  But bowels? Bowls.
• 1:05:49
  That's a crazy thing to say on our podcast, by the way.
• 1:05:51
  We'll move on. I had.
• 1:05:54
  That was because you made last this game impossible.
• 1:05:56
  So I had to get you to say ligma balls and on the podcast.
• 1:06:00
  OK, right, let's go. We've still we've still got 10
• 1:06:03
  legit ones. That was just a bonus for him
• 1:06:04
  there. OK, next one.
• 1:06:07
  You saying Balti, that's good. You saying Bolt, that's very
• 1:06:13
  good. That's so good.
• 1:06:14
  OK, next one. Max Verstappen.
• 1:06:17
  I don't even have to say. You've got to read out.
• 1:06:19
  Mark Kiss verse happened. Yeah.
• 1:06:24
  Max Verstappen. Yes, Good.
• 1:06:26
  OK, next one. Wembliss Tame Doom Wemble,
• 1:06:34
  Wembliss Wembley Stadium. No way you came up with it.
• 1:06:39
  I genuinely did. Yeah, that's incredible.
• 1:06:42
  We've got two more. OK, Ellie.
• 1:06:45
  Glock C Ellie. Elligloxy gloxy gloxy L gloxy le
• 1:06:57
  gloxy le gloxy le gloxy elligoxy le gloxy.
• 1:07:10
  Am I saying it? Yeah, this one's, this one's not
• 1:07:14
  exactly as it sounds. It's it's similar.
• 1:07:16
  I would tell you that the first word of these 3 words you're
• 1:07:19
  saying is like the first part and the 2nd 2 words are the
• 1:07:23
  second word of the thing. Ellie Glock.
• 1:07:27
  C Glock L Li Li Glock C. So the words for people
• 1:07:34
  listening home is Ellie Glock. CFC no.
• 1:07:42
  Oh cool, I give up. LA Galaxy, LA Glock.
• 1:07:50
  That's a tough. That's a tough one.
• 1:07:52
  That's tough I should have done. That last one, you're on for LA,
• 1:07:55
  you're on for Logan if you get the last one, which is very
• 1:07:58
  good. OK, Ready.
• 1:07:59
  Yeah, I'm kicking myself. RC draws food.
• 1:08:05
  Bale. Ah, ah, ah, ow.
• 1:08:12
  I'll see Jules. Food, Bale.
• 1:08:16
  Food, Bale football, Football, football.
• 1:08:21
  Could be foot football. I see Jules football.
• 1:08:30
  I can't wait. Hang on.
• 1:08:32
  I see Jules for Bale. What if I told you is your final
• 1:08:36
  clue for this? First 2 words are the first word
• 1:08:38
  middle word. Arsenal Football.
• 1:08:40
  No middle word is the middle world middle word.
• 1:08:44
  Oh, it's 3 words. So it's 3 words.
• 1:08:46
  In this it's two first 2 words the first word, middle 1 is the
• 1:08:50
  second word, last two words the last word.
• 1:08:52
  Aussie Is it a person? No.
• 1:08:55
  It's a sport. Aussie.
• 1:08:58
  Oh, I see. Oh, I see.
• 1:09:02
  I'm saying it, aren't I? You're struggling.
• 1:09:07
  Aussie draws for bell, for bell, for for bell.
• 1:09:16
  I don't know I'm. Giving up with this one.
• 1:09:18
  I hate myself for giving up. This one 4C draws food.
• 1:09:23
  Bell is Aussie rules football. That's good.
• 1:09:27
  Yeah. So I think you've got a out of
• 1:09:29
  10, I'll give you 9 out of 11 because you've got ligma balls
• 1:09:33
  as well. Flashed it crazy, but yeah, well
• 1:09:37
  done. That was actually pretty good,
• 1:09:38
  so. That's got obvious.
• 1:09:40
  I just I don't think I'm going to be able to create something
• 1:09:43
  that good. I'll bring this back.
• 1:09:44
  I'm right. Yeah.
• 1:09:45
  We'll do it with a guest. I think people will love that.
• 1:09:47
  You can work as a team with a guest to.
• 1:09:49
  Try and that's so good. That was one of our one of our
• 1:09:51
  best games ever, I think. OK, cool.
• 1:09:53
  Well if you guys enjoyed it, let us know.
• 1:09:55
  We'll do more of that. Likewise, if you've got any
• 1:09:57
  other athletes you want to send an insight on or if there's any
• 1:09:59
  further information that you have about these athletes.
• 1:10:02
  We actually did get a few people message about some Moto GP
• 1:10:04
  things, actually positive stuff, not just falling for the rage
• 1:10:06
  bait that were super interesting.
• 1:10:08
  So we can bring those into future episodes.
• 1:10:10
  So please do not hold back. Like I said prior to the game,
• 1:10:14
  please do what you can to support us in terms of just
• 1:10:17
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• 1:10:19
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• 1:10:22
  imagine it does. And so we appreciate you all for
• 1:10:25
  doing so. So anything else from you?
• 1:10:27
  I've got nothing. We're going to episode 89 next
• 1:10:30
  time, and then we're on to the last 10 before something really,
• 1:10:33
  really crazy. Yeah.
• 1:10:35
  Can't wait. That's how counting works,
• 1:10:37
  right, guys? Look what?
• 1:10:38
  Seeing you in the next episode.