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The Balancing Act: Are Athletes Prioritizing Their Brand Over Their Craft? NFL Week 14 Episode · Off the Bench - London

• speaker-0 (01:27.534) Ladies and gentlemen, you are now tuned in to Off the What's your- speaker-1 (01:51.916) it speaker-0 (01:56.674) Get your part jobs fixed! Yeah, look, we the boys have been running the town, don't debate that. Giving our jerseys life lessons, you can take that. Every Monday night, that ritual for sacred. Big screen dreams, we made it at the base. We talk sports like motivation every drop of milk that You're rocking with Off the Bench London. Brought to you by 100 Kellogg Lane, the clubhouse. Where London comes to watch the game. Now let's get into the show. speaker-1 (03:02.222) Never gets old. That's a vibe, I'll say that every single time. Yeah, I know, just gets you in the mood. Yes. All right, how you doing? Yeah, what a week that was. I mean, it was, there was some ups and downs. I don't know if I'm going to be needing to purchase a fur coat. We'll cross that bridge if we get there. You need to win five games in a row and you don't win the first one. Might not be a... speaker-0 (03:15.426) Meh, speaker-0 (03:19.246) percent. speaker-0 (03:26.104) Nope. speaker-0 (03:30.862) 100 % we will. speaker-0 (03:39.809) little The code right away, but we'll see. There's still hope. There's still lots of hope. What's Things can move. Yeah. speaker-1 (03:51.374) Still, there's... At this point in the season, you look at it and you're like, man, we're at week 14. but there's still so much left to play because the season is so wide open for so many teams. Especially because, well, the NFC is wide open. the Bears just lost. The Bears just lost one game and moved from first to seven. Which is crazy. Like first to almost out of the playoffs. 20 degree. speaker-0 (04:28.61) Yeah, but it's because they're going to a wild card spot. So like. Yeah. Yeah. But still, like, that's a lot of movement. Well, it makes sense. It's close, but it's not as close as you think. Because as long as you win your conference or your division, you automatically get the first four. Then the wild cards are very, very tight. I know what you Yeah. speaker-1 (04:54.158) That's what I mean. There's enough games left that it is anybody's race in a lot of divisions. there's probably, there's at least two teams fighting for the top spot in most divisions. Like no teams really running away. Except for I guess the Broncos and Patriots. Yeah, right now, the heavens and the moons have to move and align themselves in a way for Kansas City to even get back. yet believe it there's they've already lost a uh... it but Yes. speaker-1 (05:34.624) even for them to get in, like, they could still get into the playoffs. They could win 10 games, potentially get a wild card. But the teams ahead of them are playing really well. After the way they played last night, I don't think that's a possibility though. But we'll talk about that later. like that's a... That's an outfit. Yeah. speaker-1 (06:02.284) But certainly. We'll definitely see. So what I think is interesting, I'm seeing a lot of stuff about, which I just find funny. All those bandwagon jumpers that jumped off of the Patriots and onto the Chiefs are just dusting off their old jerseys and hopping back on the other bandwagon. It's a good time to come a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... a... Yeah. Yeah, they're I feel like they're they're good. They're right back up on the upswing. But it's just funny that the the swing was just right in line with each other. It just a swap and then swap back. I mean, we'll see what the future holds, but. speaker-0 (06:48.622) I don't know. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm trying to figure out a to word this properly. Patrick might have to leave. speaker-1 (07:05.774) I don't think he'll ever leave the Chiefs. I think he's a Chief Sliper. true, and you're not wrong, but like, it's at a point where like, But I mean, this is just what happens when you're doing so well for so long. It's the same thing that happened to the Patriots. Eventually, it catches up to you and you have holes all over the place because your draft picks are at the bottom year after year after year. Like they haven't had a top, what, a top 20 draft pick in forever. speaker-1 (07:42.798) So it really starts to add up. And they've got a lot, I don't know, I feel like they have a lot going on outside of the NFL. So like the Chiefs, massive brand. Yeah. speaker-0 (07:58.798) 100 % But that becomes distracting. speaker-1 (08:05.823) but all of that transitions into we're thinking about talking about this week. Yeah, no, for sure. Okay, so I definitely want to get into like our main topic. Are athletes prioritizing their brand over their craft? Sometimes, yeah, I think the way everything is set up now with the NIL going on and even just the way everything is looked at, because when you boil it down, yes, all these sports are entertainment, they're fun to watch, but how much The amount of money that's involved is turning it into people looking at it as a business. And the amount that they're seeing everyone else do, it's starting to become, okay, kind of like the NBA. The NBA has almost become a highlight league because you see all these clips of people doing crazy things and you're like, nice, I want to watch that guy. So the kids are learning that. So they're jumping on Instagram, TikTok, trying to boost all these crazy highlights so they can get branding and that's what sells and that's what gets you noticed. I see a lot of players that maybe aren't as good, but they're getting paid like crazy and everyone else notices that as well. speaker-0 (09:31.47) you speaker-0 (09:42.112) Alright, so do you think it's more of a problem now than it's ever been? Yeah, because it's a lot more in your face. And you hear about it a lot more. The deals aren't quiet. The are, hey, this guy's making X amount. This guy's making X amount. So you see all the players in college jumping in the transfer portal every other year. They're not getting developed the same because they're bouncing around chasing the dollars. You're not wrong. speaker-1 (10:17.602) The one thing I do like though is because there's more money in college. speaker-1 (10:25.678) the players are staying there longer so they don't necessarily need to jump to the NFL. I won't necessarily say that. what it's doing it's making the small market teams a lot more attractive for people to transfer over to a big market because you can be scouted a lot easier now. You know what mean? Like your first year of being red-shirted then you get on a really bad team you start playing blah blah then Alabama comes knocking be like hey we've seen you play we've seen your movement would you like to come to the big boys you know come to the SEC come to the ACC the big 12. Yeah. speaker-0 (11:03.81) You know, because right now you're playing in MWC, like the mountain league that no one knows about, like San Diego State. You know, some of the smaller leagues, this gives them an opportunity to get into the national league and actually get into the playoffs. Or if you're stuck on a team like Notre Dame right now, which is a hot topic, if I was a player, I might be thinking of transferring out because of, you know... They're not a part of the ACC. Yeah, they're sitting at a bowl game because they lost a Miami game, but they're not a part of the ACC. But they expect the same benefits of being a part of the ACC. So they're literally like a crime wolf. in the ballgame speaker-1 (11:50.946) Yeah. I kind of feel bad for them though. Yeah. feel bad for the kids cuz yet as i mean you're there for the exposure and you have these people that are only care about the money but like those bowl games are your biggest exposure. Yeah, because everyone's watching you. That's how like when we Sitting at the bowl game might get them a lot of attention next year. Just depends on how many of those kids are pissed and want to hop in the portal and jump ship. speaker-0 (12:17.238) I think we might see a lot of people transferring. Yeah like you're gonna get your loyal Catholic boys that are wanting to stay there but a lot of them are gonna just transfer out due to the politics and you never really want to deal with the politics in sports. I could see some players wanting to transfer in because they know eyes are going to be on that program. That too, speaker-1 (12:40.558) And realistically, it's all about eyes on you. That's all they want. Yeah, but then back to the topic. Are you going to become an athlete and go to Notre Dame, start a podcast or your TikTok just because you know eyes are going to be on the team and you may not be that good of a player, but because you're on Notre Dame and you're building your brand like. I mean you give a kid a million dollars if they're smart with their money if you can make a million dollars when you're in college you're pretty much set for You're not wrong. You're not wrong. But like, I think it's getting to a point right now where a lot of these athletes are more focused on their brands. Like, for example, Mika Parsons. We're not hearing anything about his podcast. Now he's in Green Bay. But when it was very trouble in Dallas, he had his podcast, know, everyone was talking about, are you caring more about your podcast than? speaker-1 (13:39.438) Yeah, I think him going to the Packers shifted his focus back to football, which is what needs to happen for a superstar like that. Because you see the product, sure the marketing is up there, you can market as much as you want, but if your product isn't there, eventually it's going to start coming out. Also, like the way I view it is, it is, okay, these athletes do have a platform. I'll give them that. This is one way they can speak how they want to speak on their platform, whether it's like social injustice and so forth. And I think a lot of this kind of started with Colin Kaepernick. Yeah, like I think the social brand of an athlete happened because of Colin Kaepernick. It's not a bad thing. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. He elevated it. You know what mean? And like I'm all for Colin Kaepernick. I think the aftermath is a lot of these people are using it only for personal gain and not for community gain. And that's what I Like I honor Colin Kaepernick. was happening before? He's elevated, speaker-1 (14:49.228) Yeah. speaker-0 (14:53.538) whether, however you feel, whatever, I appreciate Colin Kaepernick because I know what he's standing for or kneeling for. You know what I mean? But now I see like, what's his name? Paul George having his podcast. And then, I'm going to shut it down because I need to focus on the playoffs and getting into the playoffs. And it's like, your main goal and what you're going to pay for is to play sports. So I understand you're trying to diversify your money. and make sure that, you know, after basketball, you can have a career, maybe being an analyst or having a podcast with the sponsorship deals. But I look at the transition of Cam Newton right now. He, professional football player, focused on his craft. Retired, I think he retired early because of his shoulder injury. Yeah, I mean that's what happens with when players are going in hard all the time. Yeah, but like he retired early. We'll say that and now started his podcast and now he's on first take and has a huge deal with ESPN, which is huge, but he's done it in the right way. And this is how I always envision. He did the game, finished the game, transitioned. He didn't try to transition while he was playing and get distracted. Right. Because when you're near the end, you start slowing down and you need to be able to keep your focus. Because if you lose your focus near the end, you're already dropping off and you're like, the athleticism isn't what it once was. you need to be focused. speaker-0 (16:35.054) I always look back and it's like, Kobe was alive today, he would probably have his own podcast now. potentially. Woody? speaker-1 (16:47.032) Yeah, I feel like he would be a guy that wouldn't have started it until he finished. right, because he's waking up early, going to the gym, making sure he hits his practice. Like his demeanor is basketball. His life is basketball. Like everything he did was focused directly on basketball that you add, you know, a production team of a podcast. You may have people do most of the work and you just have to talk, but that's taking you out of the time where you could be healing, eating, or studying. He doesn't have time. speaker-1 (17:21.934) or even just seeing your family. That too. If it's Kevin Durant, all he's doing is probably getting a few women to come by and then pushing them off and then, know, practicing. But like, I do really think it's getting to a point where like, I'm OK with shoe deals. We don't know that for speaker-1 (17:44.834) Yeah, because that's something that you're doing while you're playing. You let your play speak for the shoe. Exactly. Like your brand is on the court. I'm okay with shoe deals. That's amazing. But all these extra things like getting deals to make sure that it fits your podcast or your like look at Juju. He was on his dealers. He was so focused on TikTok and doing all the dance that his production went so down that now that he's on Kansas City, we just like, you're just another normal wide receiver. We don't really care. Yeah. Well, you just like when it comes to like brand distractions, like Travis Kelsey has a million things going on. I realized that he's still an incredible athlete and an amazing football. He is, but he can't focus all of his time. He doesn't have the like there literally is not enough time in the day. Like you, you literally can't. And you can visually see it right now. Cause like that one where he got intercepted, well, Patrick got intercepted, but it was because of him. You can see him going to the bench. like, like it's shipping muscle man. Like, like, like, like, I don't know how I screwed that up. it's like, just cause you're focusing on your podcast and then you get into the game. You're like, all right, I'm going to focus on the game. But like, Yeah. speaker-1 (19:08.416) it's hard to just turn it off turn about focus on the game is seven, eight hours before the game actually starts. It's like your game plan. It's making sure you stretch properly. It's making sure that your equipment's correct. Making sure that you know, you got your steps in, you make sure your rights are correct. You make sure you do everything properly. So then by the time the game happens, you can turn your brain off and just run. But I mean, it's not even that. It's the if if I'm 100 % focused on something all day, every day and you're 50 50. It'll show. Yeah, eventually like may not show right away. But like eventually you'll get. It's gonna show. speaker-0 (19:53.13) And we've been saying that all year, especially with Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes, you're having an amazing year, but your team is distracted. I think this week he had like a passer rating of like 19 or something. But look at it. Was it really his fault? The balls were there in people's hands properly. There was a meme going around where it's like, here's eight catches that all were drops. Yeah, when it's just like this second before. Yeah. Like, I don't want to get into like, what is a catch and what is not a catch anymore, but that's a great segue to that. It's just like, it was embarrassing. And like, don't get me wrong. And if you're watching, I did want the Chiefs to lose. Right? I wanted them to lose because I wanted something new in the AFC. speaker-1 (20:45.794) I feel like that's just how it is though. Like anytime a team is doing really well, everyone wants to, like the Eagles, when the Eagles were absolutely crushed and everybody, everybody was praying for their downfall, except the Eagles fans. it is what it is. It's fun to root against the best team. It's a commonality, right? You're gonna have people who are actually fans of the team and then you're gonna have people that just wanna see their downfall. That's the reality of sports. That's why I kinda like sports. You know what mean? But. but that's part of the fun. speaker-1 (21:26.648) Well, there's so much parody in it. But I don't know, when it comes to the branding and focusing on what people should be focusing on, there's good things about it and there's bad things about it. There's people that do zero marketing and just focus on their game and let that play, let their play speak for itself. Joker. for sure. speaker-1 (21:56.111) And like, he is, I would say what? The best player in the NBA? One of the best players in the NBA. Yeah, one of the best. Yeah Yeah, easy. And he, it's like he doesn't even care about marketing. No, because his play is... Because NBA is going to post them on so many different channels. exactly speaker-1 (22:23.182) Yeah, doesn't have to, but then you have these other guys that are just scratching and climbing. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. But I don't know, it's hard because some of the, like the amount of money that's involved, it teaches people that you have to do that. Like if you're not, if you don't have all the eyes on you, teams aren't gonna look at you because at the end of the day, it's a business. I'm on green. speaker-1 (22:51.51) and they're looking for the best marketing material. Okay. he's he's the lake not even necessarily in like professional sports even like semi-pro players will get paid significantly more if they're bringing in fans. Okay, okay. Here's the other thing though. It's like, I'm all for athletes having a brain. Because on the flip side of it, it can actually help other people. speaker-1 (23:22.317) Yeah. speaker-1 (23:30.658) That's true. As long as they're being legit. true. But like I also look at it from this. Dion Sanders is a great example from the days when he was coaching at Jackson State with being able to get top stars because of who he was and who his brand was also because of his son was there. Yeah. speaker-1 (23:50.734) he honestly changed the lives of a lot of those kids just those kids though. He changed the school. Predominantly black schools are the state because now people are just realized, okay, you know what? I don't necessarily need to go a big school. I can go to a predominantly black school and then HPC school or HBS or the acronym and then I could transfer over to a big school later on. But then he switched over to Colorado. Now this year's a Yeah. speaker-0 (24:21.272) He doesn't have any big weapons and whatever. And I have a crazy theory, but I will get into it later. But now other athletes, like I look at Michael Vick now, he's Then I see Deshaun Jackson now, he's coaching and like all these people are now getting exposed to professional athletes who have their own brands. And you can actually talk to the coach who played for the Eagles, who played for, you know, the Falcons, the Cowboys and whatever and the relations there and be like, how do I get there? And so forth. I think I know what you're going to say. speaker-1 (24:44.525) Yeah. speaker-1 (24:58.592) It's cool that some of these big names are going like, you know what I want to do? I would like to help my community. want to teach the next generation of kids and they can speak on all this from experience. Like there's no way Travis Hunter would be, would have been a star as a two way player if he wasn't coached by who he was coached. Alright, so we're sticking on the concept of basketball. Here's another great example. And tell me if I'm wrong. The Ball Brothers would have never gotten into the NBA if it wasn't for the dad starting a brand for them. yes and no. cause I know I remember seeing a lamello ball. That's the end of one. doing crazy things on TikTok, Instagram, I think it was like probably just Facebook back then. But like you'd see all these crazy videos like on YouTube, all this of him putting up insane numbers as a kid. And then he started building this brand and then his dad jumped all over. speaker-0 (26:13.538) So it's Lamello, L'Angelo, and the older one. Lonzo. Lonzo. Lonzo. Right? It was when Lonzo was getting into the NBA that the brand started getting big. Then we paid attention to the younger one. Yeah, I feel like, no, I'm pretty sure I saw LaMelo ball first though. I feel like I saw his highlights first. You might well you are the visionary so I'll give you that but for I remember him putting up like, I feel like it was like 75 points in like a high school game or something, something dumb. That was because the other one was still in college and the dad started the brand and then started getting popular and then we started paying attention to all three. It was like, 3B, what do you mean? And then it was all, then we started paying attention to all three of them. speaker-1 (27:13.134) But yeah, so they had a lot of marketing going for them. but they built their own brand which worked on that aspect but it didn't take them away from the craft. Yeah, because, but that's the difference when you're doing it all yourself versus you have someone that's doing all the marketing for you. Not everybody has that family support. Not everybody has a completely insane parent that is gonna do absolutely everything to get you those views. You're not wrong. speaker-0 (27:49.742) It's funny because like... Like they're blessed with that. When we backtrack a bit, if it wasn't for the three boys, the balls, we wouldn't have focused so hard on Zion Williams. I so. Like Zion Williams was a freak of nature, but it was at the exact same time LaVar Ball was promoting the boys that we started looking at other kids. And Zion Williams was like, this is potential go. Now overweight issues and so forth happen. But we started searching during that time because of LaVar Ball. That's true, yeah. speaker-1 (28:31.608) Well, but I mean that's what it is these days when it's you have all those crazy highlights and that's what people start getting to notice is like when someone does something that's like a freak thing that you're like no one can do that. That's insane. And they're just doing it on a continuous basis. That starts to build a brand for them. Alright, let's wrap this up. Do you personally think that every athlete needs a brand? I think regardless of whether they need one, they have one. If that makes sense. Everybody is a brand. even ourselves. off the bench. speaker-1 (29:17.514) One of the things I learned about marketing is, regardless of what you're doing, You are always selling something. Yes. Everybody is a walking billboard. You're doing it on a day to day basis. You're selling your friendship. Like I'm sitting here rocking a Kellogg sweater. I'm rocketing the Eagles Jersey. speaker-1 (29:41.088) Marketing. Your marketing for the Eagles. We have a jersey here that you can win. It's a Tyreek Hill jersey. Sick Jersey. Unfortunately, he's not gonna be playing. Yeah, you could have his very last Jersey. I think he might be retiring. speaker-0 (29:57.528) Maybe. He has one year left on his contract. Yeah, but his injury he's Wow, yeah, that's a big. It's Year recovery for him to be back to normal and he's of age. Yeah, just ancient in the sport. in NFR words. speaker-1 (30:17.038) So what is he like 30 something 33 maybe I don't yeah I don't know 33? speaker-0 (30:23.918) Someone post, someone let us know so we can fact check it later. But yeah. Yeah, either way, think athletes have a brand. Everybody has a brand. speaking on athletes trying to focus on the games, we can get into some games. Yeah, can transition over there. What do you think of that Thursday game? Everyone has a bra- speaker-0 (30:45.676) I'm down to get into some games. speaker-0 (30:52.994) How about them girls? You I they're gonna be the big spoilers. So, cause like they're pretty much, I don't know, they need the eagles to have a nice monumental collapse, which is totally possible. Yeah, kind of the pigeons. I'm a little disappointed you don't have a pigeon. It's coming. is happening right now. speaker-0 (31:17.932) the community This week it's coming in. I was expecting it. I put it on like priority. So it should have been here last week But you know all the Black Friday shoppers. Oh, you know that so yeah, know it's it's it's in Toronto as we speak I can tell you that right now and then for all the borough fans One's in LA right now and the other ones in Toronto. So y'all be getting yours Yeah. speaker-1 (31:46.508) Nice. I don't know. The Gibbs is playing. monster? Yeah, he's a monster. have you seen his, his numbers are just historic. They get so many TDs. Like, he had another three TDs. That's insane. I got him running my fantasy team and I love it. speaker-1 (32:14.178) But I don't know, the cowboys? Their defense just fell apart there. They couldn't keep up. One slam went down, which kind of really sucks because he's got a concussion. And I don't know if he's going to be out for how long he's going to be out for. Might be out for a week, might be out for two weeks. speaker-1 (32:41.144) But as soon as he went down, the Cowboys just couldn't keep up. Yeah. I'm okay with it. Yeah, of course you are. Right. You speaker-0 (32:54.254) Like I was in Edmonton at the time, I walking, I can't even speak. I was watching a hockey game in Edmonton, so I missed the game because you know time difference and all. But like I got my feeds and... That was a pretty good game though. speaker-1 (33:13.27) Yeah, But it was refreshing to know that the Dallas Cowboys were girls. lost. i think it's funny that you're just like their boys when they win their girls when they lose girls can win too girls can definitely win. They're always cowgirls. In my eyes, they're cowgirls. They're a show team. And they're an accident waiting to happen. speaker-1 (33:43.923) Yeah. speaker-1 (33:50.83) Bloodbath, yeah. I feel like a lot of teams right now are always like one step away from disaster. I'll get into that in a minute. us. Dallas. As long as Jerry Jones is the owner of the Dallas Cowboys or girls. I will call them cowgirls. The reason why is due to the fact that Jerry Jones only does like speaker-0 (34:20.098) He only tries to make the team relevant and like starts drama, whether it's on the team. or outside of the league just to gain more money. Yes, it's all marketing. It's all branding. That's their only focus. It's like, and when I say cowgirls, what I mean is like, it's the Kardashians of the NFL. So women don't take offense to what I'm saying when I call them cowgirls. I'm basically calling them the Kardashians. Yeah. speaker-1 (34:55.393) Okay. Is it gonna be car- cow Kardashians now? I know that's too much. It doesn't work that way. Yeah. That's the goal is to come out girls. But. I don't know, Jerry's a marketing genius though. speaker-0 (35:12.834) The other aspect of it though is, so who do you have a fantasy on the Dallas Cowboys? man, he's gonna go so high and address this. I saw him really today. He's wide receiver number seven. Yeah. If y'all don't know, we're talking about their kicker. He's like. speaker-1 (35:33.464) Brandon Aubrey. We have talked about him so much this year. He He has more points in fantasy. than most people. than most other quarterbacks, wide receivers and running backs. speaker-1 (35:49.774) He's like, I think it's like QB 13 or 14 or something. QB 7? No, it's wide receivers. Why does it start? do seven? Why receiver seven? I can't remember QB. Yeah, it's up there. He's not bottom of the league, which is insane. crazy. So now when you look at that, it's just like come fantasy second round third round. People made fun of me for taking them a little bit earlier. speaker-0 (36:11.648) What the points are there? Here's the thing. You take him next year early. yeah. Let me knock on wood though. Cause I never want to wish that on anyone. The points are there. speaker-1 (36:18.026) work is good Hey, you never know. then you get, I think it's just a perfect situation for him because the Cowboys, if they score, they're scoring quickly, but if they get stopped, they get stopped early. So he's kicking 50 yarders all the time. Yep. So there's that. All right. OK. Yeah, yeah, I know the next game we're talking about. One at. speaker-1 (36:57.964) Man, Josh Allen. He just goes into Superman mode sometimes and you're like, like, why? I don't know. He just does. is straight. speaker-0 (37:09.312) No, no, no, no, what I mean like it's like there's no rhyme or reason when he just goes. Yeah, Superman. He just. It just kicks off and you're like... I don't know, but the Bengals couldn't mark him. They weren't... They tried. They were doing great. The Bengals were playing really well. had a really, really good game. I would argue that it was four quarters minus two plays. You guys dead. speaker-0 (37:36.622) Okay, we can... They played pretty well. Fantastic. the defense tackle tight ends but they stopped the run game minus josh allen because he had that forty-yard t here on which is beautiful. I'm sorry. That was so nice. I don't understand how he was at the base of the 50 like midfield and ran and no no like but he is quick. I'll give him that and his stride. He's a tall guy. So his strides are strong. speaker-1 (37:54.872) but and like. speaker-1 (38:03.726) Yeah, the 40. Untouched. Untouched. speaker-1 (38:16.8) Some of it was also he was running and the defender, like the Bengals, I... was getting blocked up by the wide receiver. No he wasn't even getting blocked out, he was behind him. The receiver had his hand up like he was waiting to catch the ball even though he knew Josh Allen was running. So he did that so the defender keeps following him into the end zone to keep that lane open. It's that those distractions. Oh, I'm talking about the top one. speaker-0 (38:46.006) It was beautiful. It was beautiful. But yeah, they couldn't contain him and they couldn't do anything with tight ends. Especially with the snow, there was a lot of plays where they couldn't get any sort of pass rush going because everyone's slipping and sliding out there. And then it just turns into some flag football school yard stuff where... Yeah. speaker-1 (39:14.87) Everyone's just kind of running around. Josh Allen sees someone, he's got a cannon, launches it. And that happened, a handful of Yes it did. But still, the Bengals offense was playing so well. They started with an eight minute drive. And it was great. They were up by 10. And then Joe Burrow throws those two ugly interceptions. The one was a pick six, back to back. And what are you going to do? only problem was there. speaker-0 (39:50.402) It was the great collapse of Joe Burrow. Yeah, was... Sometimes the bangle's gonna bungle it up. They just do it and it's frustrating. It's hard to watch. So next year's gonna look totally different though, because we're gonna have... I can't see us keeping Trey Hendricks, Kate Trey Hendricks in. No need. Because, well he's having season ending surgery. Which he probably should have had six weeks ago. He wasn't even on IR because he was like, oh I might play, I might play, I might play. Seriously, he's getting paid 29 million dollars. I wrote down the numbers in the notes there. What is it? 7.5 million dollars a sack? your defense plays better with Adam. speaker-0 (40:44.876) Yep, 2.6 million on solo taco, 1.8 million per total taco. Yeah, that's in solo and assist. That's ridiculous. That money can go to two, three, four defenders. So if they spread that around, next year they could fix a lot of holes. I agree. speaker-0 (41:10.158) and draw some detackles. Obviously, the offense is good. The defense needs a lot of work. obviously the job roles interception problems but like he's still too for touchdowns in a blizzard Yeah, the weather condition actually was a huge factor. I also do think a little bit the play calling was horrible for Joe Burrow in that game just because I was looking at it and it just like... It looked very elementary. It looked like the pigeons and how they played. Yeah. speaker-1 (41:44.984) Zach Taylor is not great at play golly. speaker-1 (41:53.4) To be fair, sometimes in those conditions you have to keep it basic. I get you. But the two picks when you watch it was like, was literally telling the defense, we're going to do a screen. yeah interest read it up dump it over and that he didn't realize how well the defender could read his eyes see what he's throwing it exactly just didn't love it high enough Alright, it is what it is. All you need is these two teams to start losing even more. Steelers and Ravens 27-22. I'm gonna say this, I don't know what it catches anymore. But it is what it is. speaker-1 (42:27.395) Yes. speaker-1 (42:37.996) Man, didn't anyone ever know? Like, okay, so for y'all, it used to be you catch the ball in the end zone and you land with two feet to touchdown. Doesn't matter what happens. Today we learned, or last night we learned. You gotta make a football move. You have to make a football move. But here's the problem. Counts. What counts as a football move? What counts? But then what happens when you're diving and the ball hits the pylon and then it goes out? A little touchdown because it touched the pylon. Right? This brings back the Des Bryant days. What's a catch? Yeah. That's true. speaker-0 (43:22.518) I feel bad for the Ravens because they probably would have won if it wasn't for that bad catch. That happened again because last year Isaiah likely caught the ball in the end zone, but he has big feet and part of his foot was hitting the end zone and they didn't beat the Kansas City Chiefs that game because of that. yeah, when he was tied, yeah was like week one. I was week one and then that's their they had a fight their way back and blah blah blah. But if they beat the Kansas City Chiefs then they would have the momentum and they big ego that they might have actually been more dangerous in the playoffs. I don't know. Yeah. speaker-1 (44:04.77) The Ravens are pretty good at choking in the playoffs. Yeah, hindsight 2020. It's a city made out of God dumb ones eat. What is it? 17? One of the games got flexed. So the Ravens are playing the Pats now in a Sunday night game instead of the Bengals and Dolphins. And everyone's going, oh, it's going to be a playoff atmosphere. The Ravens are saying they're going to be playing playoff football like it's playoff football. And everyone's like, but that just means the Patriots are going to win. Yeah. because the Ravens have a bad history in the playoffs. Hey, but this game kinda shows you that Aaron Rodgers still has a little bit left in the tank. speaker-0 (44:47.308) Yeah. speaker-0 (44:54.286) Well, also the milk carton rocks to work because we found DK Metcalf again Yeah, did you see who went to the hospital after the game? No, yeah, he didn't fly back with the team. He went to the Baltimore hospital. It was something, he got hit near the end of the game. They were just checking on him. But we'll see. I just hope. No. speaker-0 (45:21.678) Hopefully it's just appendix. Yeah. It's basically a gigantic statue of muscle, so we'll see. I'm curious to see how this loss affects the Ravens moving forward because we play them next, they play the Bengals next week. So I'm. speaker-0 (45:43.436) I would usually I would say I'd be worried for the Bengals next week but We'll see. I think it's just gonna be a firefight. Yeah. But we'll see. Next time we talk about Seahawks and Falcons 37 to 9. speaker-1 (46:04.046) Did you see that game was tied 6-6 at half? Someone had to wake up. Yeah, I think the Seahawks just clicked in a half time and were guys, we're better than this. Guys, we're playing the Falcons. That's all the... We need to win the bird bowl. speaker-0 (46:22.326) At least one of them. Yeah, I guess there's a lot of bird teams. Was there a bird, did anyone have the bird gauntlet this year? I didn't, I don't think I've seen that. too many. speaker-0 (46:33.036) I don't think anyone did this year. No. But. There's still time for it. Playoffs are happening. So. That's true. don't know, Sam Darnold, I think he found a really good fit with them though. Like he, I mean he didn't have an amazing game, but he got more. Yeah, exactly. Like the Seahawks defense is legit. I'm doing it. speaker-0 (47:02.658) think right now, well, Jackson Smith and Jibba went off again. But overall, when you look at the Seahawks, they're finally building the team to not only rely on Sam Donald, yeah. speaker-1 (47:20.77) which is what you need. Minnesota last year, their whole offense ran through same dome. This time, they have the run game, they have the wide receivers, they have the defense. It's a full team effort. Yeah. speaker-1 (47:35.726) Well, I think that's what goes to show that's what you can do when you pay your quarterback 30 million instead of 55 million. Exactly. Makes a big difference. Huge. The Falcons are, they're toast. Yeah. And they don't even have a draft pick. They don't even have a first round draft pick. Yeah. you can spread the wealth. We make. speaker-0 (48:00.078) Yeah, but I don't really care. It's one of the Falcons. It's not like Michael Fitz there. Alright. It's time. at Browns. I forgot my watch. should have... Man... 31 to 29. Okay, as we were talking about brands. He built a brand. between Deion Sanders helping him like build all that, he sold, didn't he sell, I'm pretty sure he sold like the most jerseys this year. Or at the beginning, at least at the beginning of the year. Which is crazy. And it just goes to show that they should have been starting him from the beginning of the season. speaker-0 (48:49.816) I I'm glad they started Joe Fockeld's start. It was smart to transition him out to Dylan Gabriel. We got Dylan Gabriel out of the way. Not saying Dylan Gabriel's a bad QB. He's just not starting quality. Then we get Chudur, come in, had a... yeah. speaker-1 (49:11.16) Not the right fit. speaker-1 (49:16.43) He's had some pretty good matchups. Yeah, he came in for the Ravens. was okay. Whatever. Last week, we saw a little bit of his shine, but it wasn't anything to stand out for. Last week. two weeks ago he beat the raiders no last week he they lost to the Niners and he didn't look good that one correct but like that just goes to show like there's a big difference between the Raiders and the Niners yep and then this week getting another solid like good matchup against the tight tightens I don't understand what they're doing why do they keep taking the ball out of his hands Yes, yes. speaker-0 (49:48.244) Almost won the game speaker-0 (49:53.646) The end of the game. First time they went for a two point, they fumbled it. Shudders fumbled it. So then they decided to go with somebody else and do the Wildcat. And then the guy forgot the play and then chucked it and they lost. But when you look at his game, four TDs for 349 yards. For a rookie that almost won you the game, you might as well give it back to him for the two point conversion because he's literally wielding your team back in. Yeah. speaker-0 (50:22.731) Here's the thing. Yeah, when someone's on a roll like that, he's- That's hot streak. But he had a history of doing that in Colorado. Because of the crazy branding, I watched some Colorado games. the amount of times that they went to overtime and they were hitting these do or die plays, that's something he's good at. Yes. speaker-0 (50:34.254) You speaker-0 (50:45.87) Here's my take. Kevin Sierfanski probably didn't want to start Chaudhuri for this reason. If he had a bad season with Chaudhuri, they'd probably fire him and probably bring in Deon Sanders to be his coach. i thought you're gonna say that when you say you're gonna bring him up in a minute is it's kinda makes sense a little bit Colorado's doing really bad right now. Kevin Stefanski, I personally think he's losing his job. speaker-1 (51:21.268) and diana show that he can turn a program around maybe not you like he's never coached the nfl It's big time, right? You have a whole bunch of egos, you know. But he's got a bigger ego than anyone on it. for sure. Fisher Fisher Fisher, but that's my concern because I don't necessarily think Dion needs to go to the NFL. He has more autonomy as the Colorado coach and all these kids went to Colorado because of you. So there's no point you leaving. I can see it happening though. speaker-0 (51:53.72) but the writing's starting to show up on the wall because this coach can't coach. i mean he has one coach of the year a couple times but Yeah. Do your research. Who was his quarterback? I have no idea, Baker. it was yeah it it was bigger yeah it was a certain type of it was a certain type of athlete but since then he hasn't done anything and he won't his ego is too big for him speaker-1 (52:19.181) Yeah. speaker-1 (52:26.658) just think it's crazy that Tony Pollard had a crazy game and the Browns usually have solid defense. I have no idea what happened. speaker-1 (52:37.806) But, Miles Garrett sets the franchise record for sacks. yeah. Yeah, he's got the franchise record for sacks. Shadoura Sanders throws four TDs and they lose in the last second play. And it wasn't because of anything those two did. Yeah, because it was a bad calling. as a coach, your main goal is to set your team up for success. Yeah, it is. speaker-1 (53:06.67) You know what's really funny? The Titans did have the number one pick. Guess who has the number one pick now? It's not the Browns. It's not. Whoo! They had a buy this week, the Giants. speaker-1 (53:24.691) The Giants have the number one pick. I don't know how, because they've actually played really well this year. Who do they train to get that? Okay. No, it's their own pick. The Giants? That doesn't make sense. They've won more games than... They haven't. They have one win. They've just lost a bunch of close heartbreaking games, which is actually perfect for the franchise. As much as it sucks them losing a whole bunch, they're going to go into next year. It's going to be a game changing year for them. They're going to be an exciting team next year. They're going have a bunch of guys that are in their second, third year. speaker-0 (53:45.112) The speaker-0 (54:03.234) Okay. speaker-1 (54:11.98) with some experience behind them. They can bring in a couple good rookies. They're going to bring in a new coach. It's going to be night and day and night. They're going to be, you know, the Patriots last year were not good. This year, it's going to be the same thing. So Eagles better watch out. We'll see. We'll deal with it when it happens. I'm saying it right now. I'm saying it right now. Hey, I love all season. That's when a lot of things change. So. speaker-1 (54:45.359) is andy at the same time sometimes it's hard to trust anything from new york in the off season unless it's the yankees The Yankees OK, the Yankees are always at the top. Fair, fair, fair, Unless this is Jay's. All right, dolphins at the jets. You know what, if I were GM. Man, the cellular team chants are hilarious. speaker-0 (55:16.462) the fire GM and just go on a win streak. The Dolphins can't be stopped right now. Yeah. I think it's that substitute teacher thing though. Everyone plays really well for the sub. Yep. speaker-0 (55:30.24) I like it. It works out great. Yeah, I mean it's exciting. It's better than them having like, like those like 1310 games that are just stinkers. Now it is only the Jets. Yeah, and the Jets have like, I get that the fans are saying sell the team, but like, they pretty much already sold out the season when they sold half their players. So, it is what it is. Yeah. Yeah, that's enough about that. I don't really care about the Dolphins and the Jets. I don't think a lot of people would watch that. speaker-1 (56:03.79) neither of them are going to playoffs. Actually, Dolphins have the same records as the Chiefs. I saw a thing of, it's all about perspective. You look at them they're all happy, like they're like, yeah, nice. We're six and seven. And then you look at the Chiefs, like, we're six and seven. Yeah. So. speaker-0 (56:25.43) Actually, I was watching the game last night and Chris Collingworth was literally going six and seven seven. god. It was you know, it's a bad trend when Everything you watch is dropping it man when it's on South Park, you know, it's a hit Collinsworth somehow turned CJ Stroud throwing a nice pass to, yep, that's gonna wake up Mahomes. Mahomes is gonna be like, we gotta do that too, I can do that too. Like how does that become his highlight? I don't get it. When you have your biggest fan as an announcer, what do you expect? yeah anyway Alright, Saints of the Bucks, 24 to 20. The Saints beat the Bucks. speaker-1 (57:13.87) I Tyler Show is, I think he's proving that he can be a starter, but I don't think he's a franchise quarterback. So I think they're going to be stuck in limbo. Like the Saints are just becoming that forever limbo team. That's unfortunate. Yeah, kinda sucks for them. But, because they've been lost ever since Drew Brees left. They haven't been the same. speaker-1 (57:43.768) But the Bucks, they're in a tailspin. I don't know what they're gonna do to get out of it. Like Bucky came back. Baker, I think Baker's playing hurt now. So, I don't think they're gonna, like, who's winning that division now? Is it the Panthers? No, I guess the Bucks might still be in the lead though, division. He is hurt. You can see it. Very visible. speaker-0 (58:10.094) I think the Panthers are up. Wild. or their game behind. It's close. that all the panthers are seven and six Panthers are right behind. Yeah. speaker-1 (58:26.104) Crazy. It just goes to show you, there's so many teams that can make the playoffs right now. Well, alright, let's switch it. I know one team that's going to be the... Well, let's say this. They're not going to win another game for the rest of the year. We're talking about the Colts and the Jags. I feel so bad. Here's his Achilles. and it's 100 % because he's playing with a broken leg. speaker-0 (58:55.116) Yep. Yep. Like he's overcompensating and putting stress on his Achilles because he's limping. He's trying his best. He's like, I gotta carry this team where this is the best situation we've had trying to do too much, gets hurt, out for the season, could be out for like half of next season. That's a significant injury. Yeah. That sucks. And that hurts Jonathan Taylor. speaker-1 (59:28.296) And the colts... Don't bat the colts anymore. Colts are done. If you're a betting person right now, culture done. Jigs are up. Congrats. that division is that you are straight now and it is not the horse team Hehehehehe It is the Texans playing great, running it with the defense. And the eggs, they're actually playing pretty well. I think Trevor Lawrence got mad when I said he's not playing. As soon as I say that, he's like. speaker-0 (59:50.421) and the jack speaker-0 (59:58.434) contract yeah but here's the thing my buddy Graham the moment he bets for the Jags to win is when they lose so he has to always bet against all right so I'll let you know I'll start posting anytime I know that he's betting on the Jags we'll go for the other team Alright. speaker-1 (01:00:19.342) Noted. Right. speaker-1 (01:00:26.798) Yeah, ATN had another great game though. It's nice to see. I always find running backs, if anything happens to them, they get a little bit injured, they usually end up not being good for a whole season and then having that resurgence. Like Jonathan Taylor, he had a couple, like a down year, then he comes back. Yeah, exactly. Gets that resurgence. Take a few steps. Yeah. Yep. speaker-0 (01:00:50.658) years. So. Well. We're talking about like how people come back and have that resurgence. If I was the commanders, stop playing Daniels. So we're talking about the commanders at the Vikings. Vikings, nine, gotta win, 31 to nothing. He's done. speaker-1 (01:01:20.91) Yeah, I don't know what it is with the Vikings. They're either absolute trash or they're crushing teams. No sense. Like they just randomly turn it on. But yeah, I agree. Daniels shouldn't play the rest of the year. Thanks. speaker-0 (01:01:30.958) None none none none none speaker-0 (01:01:43.15) They don't have- Mariotta do his thing. Yeah, he's a serviceable quarterback. He's going to keep your fans involved. Let Daniel, he has been beaten up the entire year. Get him, let him heal. Let him hit the gym. Let him get a little bit more, little bit bigger. Like I know he's out now, but he should have never been back. He should have come back. No. Yeah, he should be. He came back way too soon. speaker-0 (01:02:08.63) And your season was already over. Yeah, was a zero point. Like what is that? What is he going to change? But the one thing is I'll say is the Vikings, that's just one game. They're gonna lose next week. They're gonna lose the right, like. yeah. They just got lucky that they were playing a down team and they hit their layup. speaker-1 (01:02:33.475) Yeah. That's it. i mean when he boiled down again like we we said this before it is a team of professional athletes when you're on they're on they get the momentum there off the races All right, Broncos at the Raiders, 24 to 17. This is a- The Broncos finally had a game that they the whole game. speaker-0 (01:02:58.36) They're still suspect. They're still suspecting. I'm saying this now. The moment the Broncos make the playoffs, they're losing first round. They're what I... Because at end of the day, it is the Raiders. speaker-1 (01:03:10.542) If they do lose in the first round, I think they'll play really hard because they've won all these games that are like, they always make it harder than it is. They played to the competition. All the Raiders needed to do was get one more touchdown and they would have won. They were tied. But like, you know what it means? like... They do. speaker-1 (01:03:28.204) Yeah. It depends who they play in the playoffs. Like, because they'll probably be playing, I would guess, either they might have a buy. They're either going to have a buy or they're going to be playing the worst team to get into playoffs. speaker-1 (01:03:51.982) You could be the chiefs. speaker-0 (01:03:56.43) Or the Dolphins. Or the dolphins. Yeah. That's just crazy perspective. I don't think Kansas City is going to win out, but hey. Yeah. speaker-1 (01:04:06.254) No, They got a lot of problems. Bungie, the teams that are playing here, they have some easier matchups coming up. Alright, I know we gotta speed things up a little bit. so we'll go into the next game. Bears at the Packers. Fantastic. Absolutely fantastic. Like, I'll say this right now. Caleb Williams is a year away from being a Dynamite quarterback. Man, that was a great game. speaker-1 (01:04:35.842) Yeah, he's finally getting it together. Him and Ben Johnson are... Seems like they're getting... He lost the game with the throw in the end zone. Yeah, when he had two or three business days to throw it. and he threw it short. should have thrown it to the end zone to give your wide receiver a chance, but he tried to lob it up and try to be the hero. Rookie mistake. This is the second year. I expect it. But he... Yeah. speaker-1 (01:04:56.024) Yeah. speaker-1 (01:05:02.806) But I feel like that first year from head coaches, you're not expecting to go all the way. No, Yeah. Like, I think Ben Johnson is going to be a great head coach. You never know, might win coach of the year this year. I think he does. With that record, nine and three? nine and four? I... I bet it. speaker-1 (01:05:28.588) Yeah, yeah, I think he's gonna win a coach this year. speaker-0 (01:05:36.514) The other thing I'll say though is like that Packers defense. So when we talk about like a complete game, you allow the defense to do their thing so then your offense can cut. There's no urgency or no rush for the offense. They can go through the motions and play their game and take risks knowing that their defense is going to back them out if they get in trouble. what's it last week or talk about the like being able to trust who's behind you yet you don't need to be perfect if you have someone that can back you but they have that supporting that defense is I was watching that game, watching the Falcons game and that offense poised, collected, relaxed. speaker-1 (01:06:20.927) Yeah, you're loose because there's no pressure They know they can play the Bears, hit some crazy shots. If they make it, they make it. If they lose, they lose. Their defense is going to save them. And Caleb Williams is going to win that game and the defense save them. Packers are a dangerous team. At beginning of the year, I did put my money on the Packers winning the Super Bowl. I'm not winning much off of that. But that game last night, Yeah. speaker-1 (01:06:39.171) Yeah. speaker-0 (01:06:54.338) gave me that feeling that it might. That could happen. But yeah, no, that was a wild game. Did you see that they tried to do the bears try to do a Lambo leap and the fans were not having it and they just shoved them all down? Serves them right. Yeah. Of all teams, that's one team they can't. speaker-1 (01:07:18.572) Yeah, you're like, absolutely not. Packers are still owning the Bears. A bear. All right Rams at Cardinals I think, well, I don't think Kyler Murray is going to be back. Like, I know he's done for the season, but I think he's done there forever. Jacoby Brissette is playing pretty solid. I think he can bridge a transition to until they can find the quarterback of their future. like, Marvin Harris Jr. was out. Michael Wilson. played a great game, it's not enough. Stafford and Puka have that connection. They have chemistry and it's crazy. Like that was great. I really liked as someone who, well, were you at the game when Blake Coram was playing? Was that the game we went to in Michigan? speaker-0 (01:08:05.742) It's a chemistry. speaker-0 (01:08:09.774) 100 % agree. speaker-0 (01:08:24.184) Yes. because I like seeing him shining. Like I was picking him up last year right away because I was like, man, I know what this guy can do. but never actually got to play. But he didn't have a chance because Kieron Williams was playing lights out. Now that he's playing, they're finally doing the two back situation and he is crushing it. So it's nice to see. Devontae Adams actually didn't have, didn't catch a touchdown. Didn't have to. Yeah, he didn't do much because he didn't need to. Like let the... Always down for that. speaker-1 (01:09:03.222) let your veterans rest when your young guys are like we got this obviously staffer went off played a great game but i think that's also because didn't play great last week Well, that's how works. So, comes back with vengeance. Alright, we got a few minutes left. at the Chiefs. We don't have enough time to talk about this. Okay, so Houston defense came out for blood. the that as a record talking about everything speaker-1 (01:09:34.149) so much blood. You see Rashid Rice getting run over. Travis Kelsey getting run over like they were well, the Chiefs knocked them out of the playoffs last year. Yep. Like they're the reason like I don't think the Chiefs players realize how many teams they've pissed off. all of the showboating all this over the last handful of years now that they're down there. Everyone's seeing blood in the water and they're out for it. Everyone's a bull and the Ollies see us red. And they're getting... Yeah. Easy. Like Mahomes through partially not through a fault of his own had three picks, passer rating of like 19. He led their team in rush yards, which is not what you want from your franchise quarterback. Unless it's Josh Allen or Lamar Jackson. But even then, ideally, that's not what you want. marge has and then in the last four games now that's for instance that was the first uptown speaker-1 (01:10:38.508) Noah's first is first rushing touchdown in eight games. Wait, Yeah, because he was injured. Yeah. But man, the cheese are down bad. Dynasty's over. That was the first time that Andy Reid has gone for a fourth down conversion inside their own half in the fourth quarter when the game's tied. speaker-0 (01:11:04.588) He needed it. yeah i think he also blamed it on himself he's like i shouldn't be back all But he needed something to get the team going. Yeah, but that's a great play if you make it. If you don't make it, they're getting instant, instant at least three. They ended up getting seven. Now they, now the Chiefs have to go for it. You didn't have to go for it there. Yeah, you're like that. speaker-0 (01:11:30.062) You did wrong. but. And here's the thing, she's online, is all injured. Yeah, another guy got injured. Yeah. That was gross. the thing is I was watching the whole game there was no issues with the old line it wasn't like is not like patch speaker-1 (01:11:52.844) and it's not the drops It wasn't like he was getting, you know, sacked, rushed. There was no issues there. The stars did not show up. I wonder how much of it is that and how much of it is the Texans set the tone hard and early. those, those chiefs players are here in footsteps. They know they're going to get absolutely smashed. speaker-1 (01:12:23.734) So we'll see if they can come back. On se! Speaking of defenses playing well right behind us, your boys are getting... that might have touched the ground. At the ground. That hit the ground. But yeah, don't think the Chiefs were in the head space. The Texans were out for blood and it showed. So they were. It reminded me like last week when New England Patriots were playing and how that defense was just hitting everyone like a freight train. Houston was doing the same thing. speaker-1 (01:13:00.386) Yeah. Yeah. So it's a big difference. Like when you're scared to catch the ball, like that's what a defense should do. I agree. Also it was kind of fun seeing Rashid Rice get run over and then the guy just hit and ran. Yep. Yep. was. Yeah, it was definitely a hit and run. But. All right, well, that being said, I know we had a rush this episode, so Clubhouse is back tonight. There's a lot of private gigs going on as well. I know that's his move, but... speaker-1 (01:13:24.056) Yeah. speaker-1 (01:13:35.438) Yeah, they do some crazy Christmas parties here. If you have a massive company that has like... If you need space, they have space here. They have so much going on. So. speaker-0 (01:13:46.638) I think it's Remark? One of the big companies in London just definitely booked today out so we have to rush out a little early so we don't get to do how we usually do. I speaker-1 (01:14:01.474) Good for clubhouse, was good for... It's good for us, it's good for someone who's gonna win a jersey. Yeah, somebody's getting a jersey. I'm down. So another great episode. Just another reminder, you guys can get one of these booths, 150 bucks, depending on if it's booked out for something else. I know bookings fill up fast, they got tons of these booths though. A couple pitchers, a couple pitchers of beer, some nachos, bring your guys or girls. speaker-1 (01:14:35.054) And you don't have to clean up, get to watch the game, get a sick place to watch it, taken care of. Come out to Kellogg, there's a million things going on here. The Merry Market. Holy, the Christmas atmosphere in here. you're looking, it's so Christmas. I love it. You see people talking about going to Toronto for Christmas markets and stuff? Man, need to. It's right here. It's right here. Love it. speaker-0 (01:15:01.486) There's one. speaker-1 (01:15:05.848) And they got so much going on that you don't even need to go outside. All you need is a little bit of eggnog and we're good. So that being said, I'm the milkman. Yeah? speaker-1 (01:15:16.182) The visionary with some new visions next week. And we out. Peace. speaker-1 (01:15:26.37) for tuning speaker-1 (01:15:35.682) The Scott the Visionary home! speaker-1 (01:15:41.154) game never stops. Don't forget to like and subscribe and follow us on Instagram, YouTube, Spotify, and where else? You get your podcast.