Latest / The Marketing Funnel Podcast with Fexingo: Awareness, Interest, Decision, and Action Stages / How Solo Creators Build a Marketing Funnel on Patreon
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- Lucas: So we talk a lot about how big companies build funnels — HubSpot, Warby Parker, Liquid Death. But there's a whole parallel universe of marketing funnels that most people never see, and they're built by solo creators on platforms like Patreon. Luna: Solo creators — you mean YouTubers, podcasters, artists, writers — basically people who are their own entire marketing department. Lucas: Exactly. And the interesting thing is, a creator's Patreon page is essentially a four-stage marketing funnel in miniature. Awareness, interest, decision, action — all on one landing page and a few email updates. Luna: I want to dig into that. But first, give me a concrete example. Who's doing this well right now? Lucas: Let's look at a YouTuber named Thomas — he runs a channel about urban sketching. Started in 2021, about 500 subscribers. Eighteen months later he has eight thousand patrons at five to twenty-five dollars a month. Luna: Eight thousand patrons? That's a lot. What did he do differently? Lucas: He mapped every single video to a specific funnel stage. The free YouTube video is the awareness layer — it gets views, it builds authority. Then in the video description and the first comment, he links to a free 'starter pack' — a PDF of sketching tips. That's the interest stage. You give him your email, you get the PDF. Luna: So he's building an email list from YouTube — that's not new. But how does that lead to paying patrons? Lucas: The decision stage is the key. In every video, around the five-minute mark, he does a 'patron preview' — he shows one sketch that patrons got to see early. He says, 'If you want to see the full timelapse and my commentary, it's already on Patreon.' So the viewer has to decide: do I want that content enough to pledge? Luna: That's smart — he's creating a teaser that only makes sense if you're already engaged. It's not a generic call to action; it's a specific piece of content you're missing. Lucas: Right. And then the action stage is the monthly pledge itself. But here's the funnel twist: he doesn't ask for the pledge in the video. He asks in the email that goes out after someone downloads the free PDF. That email has a three-day window — if you pledge within three days, you get a bonus tutorial. Luna: So the email is the conversion tool, not the video. That makes sense — email is a one-to-one channel, more personal. Lucas: Exactly. And he tracks the numbers. His overall conversion rate from free subscriber to paid patron is about four percent. That's above the Patreon average of two to three percent for creators in the arts category. But the people who come through the email sequence convert at eight percent. Luna: Double the rate. That's a huge lift. So the funnel works because he's not treating every viewer the same — he's segmenting by engagement. Lucas: That's the core insight. Most creators blast the same 'support me on Patreon' message to everyone. Thomas only asks people who have already taken a meaningful action — downloading the PDF. They've shown interest, so the ask feels earned. Luna: It feels less like begging and more like an invitation. I think that's why a lot of creator funnels fail — they jump straight to the ask without building the interest stage. Lucas: Exactly. And here's another detail: he offers three tiers — five dollars for early access to videos, ten dollars for monthly live sessions, twenty-five dollars for a one-on-one critique of your sketch. Each tier corresponds to a different level of commitment. Luna: So the tiers themselves are a funnel within the funnel. The five-dollar tier is the entry point, then you might upgrade after a few months. Lucas: Right. And he makes it easy to upgrade — every patron gets a monthly email that says 'here's what you got this month, here's what you'd get at the next tier.' It's a gentle upsell based on value delivered, not pressure. Luna: I wonder if this model works for non-creator brands. Could a small business use the same approach? Lucas: Some are trying. There's a boutique coffee roaster in Portland that runs a Patreon-style subscription — ten dollars a month gets you a bag of beans and access to a monthly tasting video. They started as a regular e-commerce store, but they realized the community element kept people coming back. Luna: So they borrowed the creator funnel. That's interesting. But I think there's a tension — when a brand does it, it can feel manufactured. The appeal of Thomas's funnel is that it's authentic. He's a real person sharing his passion. Lucas: That's a fair point. And it's the reason Patreon works better for solo creators than for companies. The relationship is parasocial — fans feel like they're supporting an individual, not buying a product. Luna: But even for creators, it's not automatic. I've seen plenty of creators with huge audiences who can't convert anyone to Patreon. What's the difference? Lucas: I think it comes down to the decision stage. Thomas doesn't just ask; he creates a moment of scarcity and exclusivity. The patron preview at five minutes — that's a specific, time-bound value proposition. If you don't act, you miss that content. Luna: So it's not just about having a big audience; it's about how you frame the ask. You have to make the decision feel small and the reward feel big. Lucas: Exactly. And the best part is, this funnel is measurable. Patreon gives creators data on where patrons come from — video, email, social media. Thomas found that YouTube comments were his highest-converting source, even though only two percent of commenters became patrons. Luna: Two percent — but those are highly engaged people. They're already taking the time to write something. So he's basically using comments as a proxy for interest. Lucas: Right. And he replies to every comment within an hour, which deepens the relationship. That's part of his funnel too — the post-awareness nurturing. Luna: It's almost like a manual CRM. But it scales because he's consistent. He doesn't try to be everywhere; he focuses on the channels that feed the funnel. Lucas: That's the lesson for any marketer, whether you're a solo creator or a CMO: pick one or two channels, build a clear interest stage, and make the decision moment feel natural. Thomas's funnel isn't complicated — it's just disciplined. Luna: And it's interesting that this whole model relies on free content first. The awareness stage is free, valuable, and consistent. If the free content isn't good, nothing else matters. Lucas: Absolutely. The funnel is only as strong as the top. And that's where a lot of creators stumble — they think about the ask before they think about the value. Luna: Speaking of value — you know, these podcast episodes are our free content. And they take real work to research and write. A couple of dollars a month is genuinely what keeps these going — buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo, if you've gotten something out of them. Lucas: Yeah, and it's exactly the same principle. We put the awareness out there for free, and if it resonates, listeners can support the show. No pressure, no tiers — just a simple way to keep the episodes ad-free. Luna: Exactly. And it makes a real difference. So back to Thomas — he's now at ten thousand patrons. That's roughly sixty thousand dollars a month in revenue, minus Patreon's cut. Lucas: Which is a full-time income for a solo creator. And he built it entirely through a funnel that respects the audience. No pop-ups, no hard sells — just consistent value and a well-timed ask. Luna: I think that's the takeaway for any marketer. The funnel is not about tricking people; it's about guiding them from interest to action in a way that feels good. Lucas: Right. And if you can do that at scale, you don't need a huge budget. You just need a clear path and the discipline to follow it. Luna: So the next time you see a creator with a successful Patreon, look at their funnel. Chances are, they've thought about it more than you'd expect. Lucas: And that's the marketing lesson hiding in plain sight. For Fexingo Business, I'm Lucas. Luna: And I'm Luna. Catch you next time.