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Restoration From the Guilt Program · Divine Dialogue

• 0:01
  SPEAKER_00: Welcome, Divine Listeners, to the Divine Dialogue Podcast, where we dig deeper into the trove of wisdom and guidance stories have to offer.
• 0:10
  SPEAKER_00: Have you ever watched a movie and felt moved?
• 0:13
  SPEAKER_00: Felt compelled to make a change or reflect more deeply on your own life?
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  SPEAKER_00: If so, this podcast has a lot to offer you.
• 0:21
  SPEAKER_00: So we have made it to the finale of our Lion King exploration here, episode four of the Lion King series.
• 0:29
  SPEAKER_00: And for this episode, I'm going to do something a little bit different because I want to go over a series of scenes here.
• 0:36
  SPEAKER_00: I'm essentially going to cover the moment Simba returns to the now desolate and barren pride lands, to the ending where Simba ascends Pride Rock and the kingdom flourishes again.
• 0:48
  SPEAKER_00: I want to cover the whole ending because there are so many important threads in here that really tie everything together that we've been talking about through previous episodes.
• 0:58
  SPEAKER_00: So we see Simba return after he has remembered.
• 1:01
  SPEAKER_00: Even his friends who were in the Hakuna Matata state come with him, meaning Tamon and Pumba.
• 1:07
  SPEAKER_00: Simba's first huge moment is when he sees his mother knocked down by Scar.
• 1:12
  SPEAKER_00: He rushes in and challenges Scar.
• 1:14
  SPEAKER_00: This is where we first see Scar press that emergency button to reactivate the guilt program.
• 1:20
  SPEAKER_00: Had it just been Simba and Scar one-on-one with no others, I don't think this would have worked, but it does.
• 1:26
  SPEAKER_00: Simba steps into what I would call good ego for a moment and takes responsibility for Mufas's death, which is the guilt talking.
• 1:35
  SPEAKER_00: As is the defense he goes on afterwards, until he's backed up to the edge of Pride Rock, and on Q, the weather matches the moment, a fiery death below him, the guilt program speaking through Scar above him.
• 1:48
  SPEAKER_00: Scar reveals his secret, and Simba is able to pull himself up, and the battle for the future of the kingdom begins.
• 1:55
  SPEAKER_00: We see Rafiki and his friends help, and Simba pursues Scar up a slope to a landing surrounded by fire.
• 2:01
  SPEAKER_00: They fight, Simba wins, and he takes back the kingdom.
• 2:05
  SPEAKER_00: We see restoration, and then the movie ends with Simba and Nala's cub being raised.
• 2:10
  SPEAKER_00: Literal full circle of life moment.
• 2:13
  SPEAKER_00: So to get into the soul meaning here, I want to start by talking about what I love about the very first scene where Simba has arrived back to the Pride Lands, and it's gray and barren and mostly lifeless as he's looking around.
• 2:28
  SPEAKER_00: There are essentially all predators and no other living life.
• 2:32
  SPEAKER_00: Simba has more or less been restored internally, but the external manifestation is lagging behind, which I find to be true in life.
• 2:41
  SPEAKER_00: We tend to restore internally before the external world reflects this back to us.
• 2:47
  SPEAKER_00: And of course, Nala follows him home without him even getting her to go with him by telling her he was going home because she wanted him to go home, but she just knows to go, you know, trace his path back because Rafiki tells her that, you know, he went home.
• 3:04
  SPEAKER_00: And she was very supportive of his return, even though what she said to him made him very defensive.
• 3:10
  SPEAKER_00: She just didn't understand the depth of what he had to remember.
• 3:14
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, when Simba sees his mother struck down, that activates divine masculine protection of the feminine in him, and he immediately jumps into action to challenge the distorted masculine vi violence of Scar.
• 3:28
  SPEAKER_00: But Simba begins to wobble here, which I've brought up in other series.
• 3:32
  SPEAKER_00: I talked about this in Harry Potter, how Harry wobbles when he has the stone and Voldemort's making him that offer in front of the mirror to bring his parents back up.
• 3:41
  SPEAKER_00: Simba does the same kind of thing here.
• 3:43
  SPEAKER_00: It doesn't happen right at first, but when Scar brings up this line of, I believe he says, What about your faithful subjects?
• 3:51
  SPEAKER_00: Have they put it behind them?
• 3:53
  SPEAKER_00: We see Scar push the emergency button to restart the guilt program, which is why I said I didn't think that if it had just been Scar and Simba that this would have worked.
• 4:02
  SPEAKER_00: I think it was the collective pressure of the whole pride because Scar did a very good job at the beginning of, you know, the first episode we went over of the guilt program, making Simba very aware that like his mother would think he was, you know, terrible and that it was his fault that his father was dead.
• 4:22
  SPEAKER_00: And so he was pushing on that program that he had installed when Simba was a cub.
• 4:28
  SPEAKER_00: And Simba stands there very nervous.
• 4:31
  SPEAKER_00: And I would argue actually that he steps forward from a place of good ego.
• 4:35
  SPEAKER_00: And what I mean by that is he's taking responsibility because he thinks it's the right thing to do, but it's not the true thing to do, and it's also not the divine thing to do.
• 4:45
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that good ego is often the last stop before we get to divinity.
• 4:50
  SPEAKER_00: He still feels responsible, even though of course he wasn't, and he doesn't know that Scar actually killed Mufasa yet, but he still has that internalized program of what he knows from what Scar told him, mixed with ambiguity, which is enough to throw him off his center.
• 5:06
  SPEAKER_00: You know, never mind that the kingdom is in ruins and that Scar's energy is malevolent, and that, you know, he just saw Scar smack his mother across the face.
• 5:16
  SPEAKER_00: Simba is too packed with guilt and grief to read into the energy of the moment, and he finds himself backed up until he slips and is hanging off just like his father was, which is what guilt will do.
• 5:28
  SPEAKER_00: And I love that he was reversed into this into the position too, because you know, we saw him take very huge and monumental steps to return to himself, but then the old programs will rise up and sometimes they will have you walking backwards when first confronted with them, which I really do think is normal.
• 5:47
  SPEAKER_00: I don't think you return and then bam, you're invincible.
• 5:51
  SPEAKER_00: You know, those programs have energy, there will be challenges, they don't just go away right away.
• 5:57
  SPEAKER_00: But once Simba has direct confirmation, because you know, Scar's ego couldn't resist bragging about how he stole the kingdom, Simba has nothing holding him back.
• 6:08
  SPEAKER_00: But I do think it's important to also give attention to the fact that most of the time we don't get the admission of the program being installed by the installers.
• 6:20
  SPEAKER_00: Oftentimes, when we do, it'll be in moments like these where the installer is proud of their virus and wants to brag about it.
• 6:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's purely from egoic impulse and gratification that Scar admits this.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's not from any kind of awareness.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's literally from I'm gonna brag about the fact that I killed your father and I'm about to kill you.
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  SPEAKER_00: He just couldn't help himself.
• 6:43
  SPEAKER_00: So it doesn't ever hardly come from a place of humility and reflection because a person possessing humility and reflective capabilities wouldn't offer that kind of clarity and truth anyway, and wouldn't do the types of things that Scar has done.
• 6:57
  SPEAKER_00: And we see immediately after Scar loses the upper hand, he shifts right back into gaslighting and trying to construe truth into being in the eye of the beholder.
• 7:09
  SPEAKER_00: Now, then we get into the battle scene here, and while parts of it are corny for sure, some parts are very telling.
• 7:15
  SPEAKER_00: So first we see all the lionesses help Simba, which I would characterize as the divine feminine acting as protection to divine masculine when it takes the aligned action.
• 7:25
  SPEAKER_00: They know that Scar is a plague on the kingdom, and Simba is divine masculine in the making.
• 7:30
  SPEAKER_00: He still isn't quite there yet, but he's very close.
• 7:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I also wanted to take a moment to highlight Rafiki here because he is, for all intents and purposes, the spiritual sage, the wise counsel, and he still has teeth as well as a nice stick.
• 7:45
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, spirituality does not mean always being a pacifist.
• 7:49
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you have to fight, you don't have to take joy in the fighting, but you have to fight if rival energy pushes too hard.
• 7:56
  SPEAKER_00: And unfortunately, that's the nature of ego.
• 7:59
  SPEAKER_00: Some egos will never stop, no matter how insane the energy gets, and you'll have to engage.
• 8:05
  SPEAKER_00: This is what we saw in the Balto series: how Balto failed to, you know, confront Steele.
• 8:11
  SPEAKER_00: He just kind of lets Steel keep going with his madness, and he doesn't understand how insane, you know, Steele's ego is.
• 8:19
  SPEAKER_00: But Simba's getting an idea of how just just how insane Scar's ego is.
• 8:24
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, Simba follows Scar to essentially like a battle royale arena encircled with flames, and Scar is tucked away at the edge of the ring, scrambling to find a way out of his maze of lies, and he just looks like a complete pathetic coward over there.
• 8:39
  SPEAKER_00: And Simba initially approaches very strong.
• 8:42
  SPEAKER_00: He's leading with righteous anger, and he does deliver a very pointed line telling Scar the same thing that Scar told him: to run away and never return.
• 8:51
  SPEAKER_00: But I would say again, much like Balto, though not nearly as meek, Simba is seriously under underestimating the danger of Scar.
• 9:00
  SPEAKER_00: He tells him, You don't deserve to live, which is fair, but it's more accurate and wise to say you're too dangerous to live because he is.
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  SPEAKER_00: And I want to briefly recap what Simba knows here.
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  SPEAKER_00: So Simba knows at this point Scar killed his dad.
• 9:17
  SPEAKER_00: He also knows Scar lied to Simba about it being his fault.
• 9:21
  SPEAKER_00: He knows from looking at the kingdom and its bleakness that he let the kingdom fall into despair and deadness.
• 9:28
  SPEAKER_00: He knows that Scar violently lashed out at his mother within his view.
• 9:33
  SPEAKER_00: So we know he's a murderer, he's a premeditated murderer, we know he's careless and completely destroyed what was once an enriched and alive kingdom.
• 9:43
  SPEAKER_00: And to top it all off, we know he's guilty of domestic violence.
• 9:47
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, I know that's um probably lame, but we know that he's done a lot of, you know, really bad things.
• 9:55
  SPEAKER_00: You know, and Simba can probably even piece together, though we don't see him say this, but he does say everything you ever told me was a lie, so he's piecing everything together, but we also know about the elephant graveyard and how he encouraged him to go there.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: So he has a lot of things that he can piece together to say this is Scar's energetic picture.
• 10:16
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, he knows that it's absolutely terrible and violent and cruel and vicious and just everything.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I would say in this case, like, sorry, Simba, there's too much here to let him walk past you and just trust that he won't return.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_00: And then what do we see him do?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_00: Well, he says, as you wish, your majesty, and then he flings the fire at Simba's eyes.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: And I think, you know, Simba let him go because he precisely says, I'm not like you.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_00: And I want to talk about that because I think it's critical in divinity.
• 10:53
  SPEAKER_00: And this is where I kind of get into the good ego, bad ego side of things.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: So Scar is obviously bad ego, he's evil ego, he is pretty much irredeemable.
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  SPEAKER_00: You know, he's someone who has lost his way so far that he's not really coming back from it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Simba is good ego because he's trying to do the quote-unquote right thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: However, if you're in good ego, what does good ego rely on for its positioning?
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  SPEAKER_00: Bad ego, like it's in opposition to bad ego.
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  SPEAKER_00: So if he tells him, I'm not like you, then a good ego will play by the rules.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that's what Simba's trying to do.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_00: He's trying to be a good lion, he's trying to be a good king, but that was also what his father was like.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: His father was a good king, but he was not a wise king, because if he was a wise king, he would have seen the malevolence around him.
• 11:46
  SPEAKER_00: He would have picked up on Scar if he was in his divinity, if he was in his divine state, but he was in a good king state, and Simba's trying to do this too.
• 11:55
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, you can still be not like him and still eliminate the threat because it all goes back to the energy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like Scar killed Mufasa because he was envious, he was jealous, he was, you know, mean-spirited, he was selfish, he wanted to take what he wanted for himself, regardless of what happened to the kingdom.
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  SPEAKER_00: Simba killing Scar is not at all the same kind of energy.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: He just wants to remove the threat and restore the kingdom, and there that's completely divine to do that.
• 12:26
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, you can still eliminate the threat and not be like the villain, but it's not through good ego, it's through your divinity.
• 12:38
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, again, that's going back to Rafiki entering the fight.
• 12:41
  SPEAKER_00: He's probably the most spiritually aligned character in the whole story, but he has teeth and a nice stick, like I said.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: And Simba really shouldn't have given Scar the window that he took to fight one last time, underhanded and ruthlessly.
• 12:54
  SPEAKER_00: He put himself and the kingdom in unnecessary danger just to not be like him.
• 13:00
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, I get it, obviously.
• 13:02
  SPEAKER_00: We all want an epic battle scene in slow motion with lions slapped to the face.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: Fine.
• 13:07
  SPEAKER_00: I'm just speaking practically from a soul lens, don't allow that energy to sneak back in because it will.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: And you have more than enough evidence and internal knowing to feel that is true.
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  SPEAKER_00: And so for my personal mirror here, I want to, with this sequence of scenes, mostly focus on the very real fact that I think programs tend to die in phases.
• 13:32
  SPEAKER_00: They don't die all at once.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_00: And I would say remnants of them probably stay with you your whole life, depending on what age you got corrupted by them.
• 13:40
  SPEAKER_00: And when I say corrupted, I mean separated from who you really are and how severe the corruption was.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: Because Simba's mind, heart, and soul were violated very young, and even worse by someone he was supposed to be able to trust.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_00: So, you know, even with the power and presence of James Earl Jones's voice in the sky, a program like that doesn't go away to the sound of uplifting music and a spiritual baboon backing you up.
• 14:07
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be triggered, scraped, activated.
• 14:10
  SPEAKER_00: And that's why Scar is able to activate it at the end.
• 14:13
  SPEAKER_00: And also why I think in Lion King 2, you know, Simba still has an attachment to being the kind of king his father would approve of.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_00: He ended up shifting that program a little bit to seeking Mufasa's approval over Scar's, but what Mufasa tells him, remember who you are, he's inviting him to return to himself.
• 14:34
  SPEAKER_00: And really that's that's the best way to see through the program, even if you only have just a little sliver of sight past it, you have to return to yourself.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: And like I said before, he wobbles, you know, and we always will wobble, divine listeners.
• 14:51
  SPEAKER_00: It's just that the torments of the program don't have to overtake you.
• 14:55
  SPEAKER_00: It's like listening to music at blurring volume versus a quiet level.
• 14:59
  SPEAKER_00: Sometimes you'll still hear it, but you'll hear the real you, the you before the program, much more clearly.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: And I'm still very much a work in progress with this.
• 15:08
  SPEAKER_00: There were tons of programs downloaded into me that weren't really me, because people who raise us who don't integrate and recognize their own programs are going to pass it along, which is why I've been using the computer analogy in this series.
• 15:22
  SPEAKER_00: If you're raised by Windows XP parents, but you're the next gen, i.e.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Windows Vista, you're still Windows because they never moved on to Macs.
• 15:30
  SPEAKER_00: Sorry, totally kidding.
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_00: I use Windows, you get what I mean.
• 15:34
  SPEAKER_00: Like the program stays there, it just mutates a little each generation, but it doesn't have to continue, and that's what I'm trying to do.
• 15:43
  SPEAKER_00: You know, I don't have kids and never will, but I'm trying to engage people from my true self rather than my program self.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: And it's a constant work in progress to do that.
• 15:54
  SPEAKER_00: It's not something you're going to perfect.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: You just have to keep returning.
• 15:59
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just a hope that as you return, you get faster at it.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_00: And like I said back in my Harry Potter series on the seekers, you'll never stop seeking.
• 16:09
  SPEAKER_00: You'll never stop unlearning the program either.
• 16:12
  SPEAKER_00: Because once you think you have, there will be some event or situation or person, and you'll feel it rise if there's even just a little bit of fragment still there for it to rise up into.
• 16:23
  SPEAKER_00: And there's an opportunity for you to uninstall it there too.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_00: And it might sound disheartening, but I promise it's not all doom and gloom.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: The nice thing about unlearning programming is you get to keep the good bits.
• 16:36
  SPEAKER_00: For example, I was raised in an environment where hypervigilance was necessary for survival, and that's the fear version of hypervigilance.
• 16:45
  SPEAKER_00: That's that's the fear.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_00: But the divine version is, you know, strong intuition and awareness, which can be a very helpful trait in certain situations.
• 16:54
  SPEAKER_00: It can help you read energy and see things others might miss, but it doesn't come from a fearful or protective state, it just comes from, you know, a fine-tuned awareness.
• 17:04
  SPEAKER_00: And you know, there's still some situations where for me hypervigilance will come up, but when I'm centered, like I just sense that I have a very keen, you know, awareness and intuition.
• 17:18
  SPEAKER_00: When it gets corrupted by fear, it becomes hypervigilance, but that doesn't even necessarily mean that I was like incorrect in my, you know, assessment of something.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: It's just the energy that's going into it.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: So when I'm centered, it's a calm, you know, oh, I'm just very aware.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: I have a really strong sense about this.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: But then when it's, you know, fear-based and I'm off center, then it becomes hypervigilance, and you can feel the difference in your body because if you're off-center, you feel anxious or you feel, you know, fearful.
• 17:49
  SPEAKER_00: And when you're centered, you feel calm and you feel still, and it just presents itself in different ways.
• 17:56
  SPEAKER_00: So I'm gonna go ahead and get into the divine dialogue questions here today.
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  SPEAKER_00: So think for me on a time where you underestimated someone's capacity for malevolence.
• 18:06
  SPEAKER_00: What happened?
• 18:08
  SPEAKER_00: What lessons did you take from that experience?
• 18:11
  SPEAKER_00: Think about the programs that feel foreign to who you really are.
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  SPEAKER_00: What are they?
• 18:16
  SPEAKER_00: Are you afraid to let them go?
• 18:19
  SPEAKER_00: And I think I want to talk about this question about, you know, letting go of the program.
• 18:25
  SPEAKER_00: We see this in the Lion King very clearly.
• 18:28
  SPEAKER_00: You know, Simba is hurting, he's guilt-ridden, but there's a certain comfort he has in Hakuna Matada land.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: He's almost like comfortably in pain.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: And we kind of see that happen, you know, when he goes back at the end and confronts Scar, that gets pushed again.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like he he slides right into that guilt program almost like a you know, a foot into a shoe very easily for a few moments, and you think he's gonna get overtaken because he got used to existing in that.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_00: Like it kind of gave him a map for his life, even though it was a dysfunctional map.
• 19:05
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, programs aren't something you can't pick up again when you put it down.
• 19:09
  SPEAKER_00: You most certainly can.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_00: You're never bound to any choice, like, and it'll make you think that you are.
• 19:16
  SPEAKER_00: So, like the program will tell you in a fear voice, you know, be careful because you don't know what to do without me.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: And you can respond with, I'm still here, just seeing what's over there.
• 19:27
  SPEAKER_00: It's rather like to go back to Harry Potter again, letting one vine of devil's snare loosen.
• 19:33
  SPEAKER_00: You don't have to free yourself from the whole thing at once.
• 19:36
  SPEAKER_00: Oftentimes it's wise and kind to take baby steps, because that's actually another trick of the program, where if you can't maybe free yourself from it all, then you'll hear, well, you know, you can try, but you're never gonna get away.
• 19:51
  SPEAKER_00: And that's just another trick of perfectionism, which I've struggled with as well.
• 19:55
  SPEAKER_00: Well, if you can't get rid of all of it, then you might as well keep all of it.
• 19:58
  SPEAKER_00: It's it's very absolute, it's very all or nothing.
• 20:02
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it's the thing is, is those are very rules-based expectations of yourself.
• 20:09
  SPEAKER_00: And I would encourage you, as we close out this Lion King series here, to strive to live more inside of rhythm.
• 20:16
  SPEAKER_00: That's what the baby steps are.
• 20:18
  SPEAKER_00: You kind of figure out each day how you can reclaim more of your divinity and how you can install more of the pro uninstall more of the program.
• 20:27
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, it's much less spiritually jarring than to just rip yourself away.
• 20:32
  SPEAKER_00: Because there the thing is, is that also to talk about parts a little bit, some parts are were housed in programs for protection.
• 20:40
  SPEAKER_00: At one point, you know, the program protected a part.
• 20:44
  SPEAKER_00: Like for me, one of mine that I've been struggling with quite a bit is, you know, doing always being right, like wanting to be right and being able to prove I'm right.
• 20:54
  SPEAKER_00: Because if I was right when I was younger, it protected me from, you know, being like feeling like love was withdrawn, or that I was in danger because I was wrong, or that I was vulnerable to being, you know, thought of as less than by, you know, my parents, like because I did something wrong.
• 21:13
  SPEAKER_00: So those things were necessary.
• 21:17
  SPEAKER_00: It's terrible that they were necessary, but they were at one point.
• 21:20
  SPEAKER_00: So it's also important to kind of gently show your part that when you're wrong, you're still okay, because the people who had you scared when you were younger don't have the jurisdiction over your life anymore.
• 21:35
  SPEAKER_00: And your part can start to see that when you're wrong and and you still love that part anyway, because that part is just you that was split away at a certain age, then it feels more comfortable rejoining, you know, the whole of you, like your higher self.
• 21:50
  SPEAKER_00: It it feels like it can come home because the part only sees its pain and only sees, you know, what drove it into that position.
• 21:59
  SPEAKER_00: So It's very spiritually jarring to rip yourself completely out of it.
• 22:04
  SPEAKER_00: It's more about being gentle, which I've tried to emphasize as well in these episodes, because it was cruelty and meanness and you know just maliciousness that that created the parts in the first place.
• 22:17
  SPEAKER_00: So the answer is not to be just as violent in the other direction, even if it's correct.
• 22:23
  SPEAKER_00: It's much more healing to approach with like love and compassion and gentle redirection, you know.
• 22:32
  SPEAKER_00: And if you need to grieve all of this, which of course, you know, if you're listening to this and you're struggling with programming, there's going to be a lot of grief coming home to yourself.
• 22:42
  SPEAKER_00: You might think, well, gee, I would be better off, you know, just staying where I am.
• 22:46
  SPEAKER_00: And it's like, it is more comfortable in a way, you know, like Simba's very comfortable in his Hakuna Matata paradise.
• 22:54
  SPEAKER_00: And, you know, he doesn't like that Knoll's trying to get him to leave.
• 22:59
  SPEAKER_00: So there's definitely some of that.
• 23:00
  SPEAKER_00: But the thing is, there's always going to be that nagging from your soul, and not like a punishing nagging, just more like a, you know, gentle nudges and things that pop up that will kind of poke at what was fragmented and pushed in where it shouldn't have shouldn't have been, like those programs that were put on that shouldn't have been put on.
• 23:21
  SPEAKER_00: So you're always going to get those little nudges to return.
• 23:25
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just important to return gently, slowly, and with love and compassion towards yourself, I would say is the lesson in Lion King, which I think is exactly what Mufasa gives to Simba.
• 23:38
  SPEAKER_00: He doesn't judge him, he doesn't condemn him, he he sternly tells him, you know, remember who you are, because what you're doing, like you are more than what you've become.
• 23:49
  SPEAKER_00: And when Simba goes home, you know, to reclaim his home, because he's already started to reclaim it in himself, so he has to go back to his physical home.
• 23:58
  SPEAKER_00: That's why I say internally happens before the external reflects it.
• 24:02
  SPEAKER_00: He has to embody that and be able to stand in that enough, strongly enough, and not perfectly, because he doesn't do it perfectly.
• 24:10
  SPEAKER_00: And I think that that's crucial to notice in these stories, which you kind of see this theme of heroes and stories, that they don't do it perfectly, but that's what makes them heroes, is because they're able to still do it enough that they, you know, are stronger than the program.
• 24:27
  SPEAKER_00: The program doesn't dictate how they live, they decide, you know, I'm gonna live this way.
• 24:32
  SPEAKER_00: I'm not going to let the program dictate what I do.
• 24:36
  SPEAKER_00: So I just wanted to leave you with that, you know, just to remember that when you heal internally, the external is gonna lag behind a little bit.
• 24:47
  SPEAKER_00: And to not not to place what you do in opposition to someone else, approach it authentically from within you.
• 24:57
  SPEAKER_00: Like, what would you do?
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: Period.
• 25:00
  SPEAKER_00: Not would you what would you do in response to someone else?
• 25:03
  SPEAKER_00: Because I think that's where we get really stuck in that good ego, bad ego dynamic.
• 25:08
  SPEAKER_00: And Simba is forced through, you know, a battle to do what he should have done if he wasn't trying to not be like Scar.
• 25:17
  SPEAKER_00: So I would kind of take that away from this last episode here, is just what you choose to do, make sure it's coming from you and not in opposition to someone else or not being influenced by the position of someone else.
• 25:32
  SPEAKER_00: And with that, I will go ahead and close out this Lion King series.
• 25:35
  SPEAKER_00: Divine listeners, thank you so much for joining me on this journey of Simba's guilt back to the ascension of who he really was, which was King of Pride Rock.
• 25:46
  SPEAKER_00: I will also take this time to announce where we will briefly be going just for this next Friday episode here, um, before I get into October with the Halloween content.
• 25:56
  SPEAKER_00: I'm going to release just a one-episode special on the animated film Opal, so O-P-A-L.
• 26:02
  SPEAKER_00: I will go ahead and put it in the show notes of this episode, just if you want to watch it.
• 26:07
  SPEAKER_00: It is a free movie on YouTube.
• 26:10
  SPEAKER_00: Very brilliantly made animated movie that I saw not too long ago that is going to kind of lead into the theme that I'm going to be going with pretty much for the next, maybe even for the rest of the year, in one way or another.
• 26:27
  SPEAKER_00: But Opal has a very specific connection to the movie that's going to follow it when we begin October.
• 26:35
  SPEAKER_00: So I wanted to include it here because I had an extra week to put an episode in, and I thought that that would be the perfect transition.
• 26:42
  SPEAKER_00: So I will spend next Friday going over Opal, and it will be probably a rather lengthy episode because it's not going to be breaking down the whole movie in pieces like I've done with the other series so far.
• 26:54
  SPEAKER_00: So it'll probably be a pretty decent, decently long episode.
• 26:58
  SPEAKER_00: But if you have time to check out that movie, I highly recommend it.
• 27:00
  SPEAKER_00: I will put it in the show notes here for you to look at if you're interested.
• 27:05
  SPEAKER_00: But until next time, Divine Listeners, remember that the program is not who you really are.
• 27:12
  SPEAKER_00: There is something much more divine underneath it.
• 27:15
  SPEAKER_00: And if you just return to yourself each day and, you know, give to yourself and remember to care for your soul, it will start to unravel.
• 27:26
  SPEAKER_00: And it can be in very, very small ways where you just notice that you did something differently than you know that you've never had before in all the years of your life.
• 27:37
  SPEAKER_00: And it's just very important to be aware of those little subtle changes because those little changes, when you notice them, they build into, you know, they compound.
• 27:47
  SPEAKER_00: Um, they have a compounding effect to help you return to yourself.
• 27:51
  SPEAKER_00: So I would say remember who you are and don't be afraid to take small steps back to yourself.
• 28:00
  SPEAKER_00: And just remember that the external will lag behind the internal.
• 28:04
  SPEAKER_00: But as long as you keep staying with yourself and approach, I would say, your days with internal love and compassion, I think the external world will start to reflect that to you as well.
• 28:16
  SPEAKER_00: So I will see you next Friday.
• 28:18
  SPEAKER_00: And thank you, divine listeners, as always, for listening.