Latest / Two Girls and a Cup of Wellness / Tallow Skincare: A Postpartum Skin Story with Meagan Schreiber | Ep 30
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- Crissy and Marie: Hey everybody, welcome back. This is Marie. And Chrissy's here. And today we have Megan. Hello, Megan. Hi. Yes. Good. Fantastic. It's a beautiful day in Florida today. ⁓ it's a beautiful hot day. Yes. How are you? Where are you coming from? Yeah, that's true. ⁓ wow. Where in Tennessee? I have a lot of family in Tennessee. Meagan Schreiber: Hi, how are you? Well, at least you have the beach. ⁓ middle Tennessee. It's hot here too. ⁓ just south of Nashville. Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: Okay. All right. I have a lot of family just outside of Bristol, which we're recording this ⁓ just before the Fourth of July. And I will be going up there this weekend. I'll get myself some Tennessee love this weekend. And I used to live in Lebanon. Yes. And I rescued a donkey from south of Nashville. Wait, we're gonna have to come back to that one. A donkey. A donkey. Wow. Okay. I loved my donkey. I had two. I love them. But so Meagan Schreiber: Wow. Really? Yes you did. Lebanon is like up and coming. I had no idea. Crissy and Marie: It was dead when I was there, but yeah. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah, there's a mall, there's in and out. I know. It's it's fancy. I know. Crissy and Marie: What? Wow. It's moving up in the world. ⁓ well, Megan, thank you so much for joining us and our community. And I really want to start with your brand because we're hearing hearing more and more about Talo. And I want to start there and then we can kind of backtrack and talk a lot about your beautiful self as well. But I want to talk about your company and what you offer and the the passion behind it. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah, so I originally was coaching postpartum moms and running a postpartum blog and it was getting traction and it was getting a lot of ⁓ it was getting popular, you know? And then I just had this crazy ⁓ feeling that I was like, ⁓ man, I'm not appreciating exposing my kids to the internet this way because as much as it's my story, it's also their journey as well. So ⁓ I kind of just sat and I was like, what is a common denominator that a lot of moms are struggling with? And I came to the conclusion it was skincare. They were either insecure with stretch marks or hormonal acne or their baby's cradle cap or a diaper rash and there was just so much on the internet and there were so many options that they were like Crissy and Marie: Mm. Meagan Schreiber: This'll do this and this will do this. And I was like, if I could just simplify their lives, if I could just create something that helps, if I could just one product that really nourishes. That was kind of like my journey to tallow and honey. And so I dove in head first and I was like, what actually helps, right? Like what can I do to help this process? And so I found out that tallow, ⁓ Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: is up to 85% bioidentical to the own your own skin composition. And I am obviously obsessed with Manuka honey in every which way possible. So I just kinda, you know, went into the deep end. Crissy and Marie: Mm-hmm. Great. I mean, how perfect is that? Because especially as a new mom, life is so hectic and you are just surviving, really, you know, until you start to get into the groove of things, right? And and your flow. But it takes a hot minute as a new mom. And to be able to have a product to simplify to where they still feel good about nurturing themselves and doing certain things, self-care, self-love for themselves when they're so much in that moment of like give, give, give to the baby. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Crissy and Marie: ⁓ what a beautiful beautiful way to kind of bring it back to them. And also to be able to use on the babies as well. Plus the law of the those mainstream products. Once you have a problem, then you start researching it and you realize how bad it actually is for you. ⁓ right. All of some of the other products out there. Yeah, for sure. So as a mom, you want to do everything right by your kids too, you know. Meagan Schreiber: Right. Yeah. Yeah. I mean Yeah, absolutely. I was using coconut oil at the time, you know, when I was having my babies and ⁓ I still got stretch marks. I still did all of the right, holistic, like eating right, drinking the water. I did all the things that they told me. And so mine at first was very much like, Coconut oil betrayed me. So when I healed my stretch marks through tallow, I was like, ⁓ my gosh, what else can this do? You know? Crissy and Marie: That's funny. ⁓ Yeah. It's like magic. It's funny you say that about coconut oil. I have a funny story. ⁓ like anytime there's something wrong, a cut or like a you know, acne or this or that, I'm always like, just throw some coconut oil on it. My family makes fun of me so much. But that was like my go-to as well. I mean, I still use it a lot, but that was definitely my go-to. Just throw it on anything. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. I made ⁓ like shirts and stickers and stuff that were like put some tallow on it. Crissy and Marie: that's That's fine. You should sell those for sure. So how long have you been doing this, Megan? Meagan Schreiber: Because I was the coconut oil one too. ⁓ almost four and a half years. Crissy and Marie: Awesome. Yeah. Well, I bought some of your products. And then I love this. Is it the B flawless? Here, smell that one. I was looking for it the other day and I couldn't find it. And I'm like, the kids stole it. These darn kids, my kids are teenagers now. So they're always in my stuff. Like it's crazy. And then I find I text my husband and I said, Do you did you take this? He's he was on a business trip. He's like, Yes, I did. And I have to tell you, his face smells so good when I go to kiss him. I'm like, mm, yum, yum, yum. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Crissy and Marie: This is heavenly. This is really it feels so good on your skin. Wow. Yeah, I love it. Meagan Schreiber: ⁓ thank you. I had a a man write a ⁓ a review on my website one day and he like, My wife's friends won't stop asking me where I get my skincare Crissy and Marie: Yeah. So yeah, be flawless. That's for men. Okay. Single guys out there. I think you all need to go to her website and get some be flawless. Well, we we single guys and girls, I said. We got away from colognes and stuff and perfumes because I you know, six years ago I read all about thyroid issues as I was having issues. And so I don't like the smell of cologne anymore. It actually makes me feel sick. So this is really nice to smell something on him. I love it. Yeah. So Meagan Schreiber: Right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and I mean I make it with real coffee too. So I mean it doesn't get more much more natural than that. I was like, how are we gonna help this part? Crissy and Marie: Right. Right. The under eyes, right? ⁓ yeah. God, that just feels so good. I just I'm like, just put it everywhere. Can I bathe in it? It's good stuff. Yeah. So I have a question now. We you know, tallows become so trendy and so popular, and you really had to like search it out not that long ago. You'd have to really look for it. So I have been reading that a lot of these smaller companies. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Right? I know. So nice. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: are getting purchased by larger companies, but they're keeping the branding the same but changing the recipes. I think that's happening in a lot of different And that's so depressing. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah, I mean like what was it, Ciete Chips or something got bought out by Pepsi and they're keeping the brand yeah that I have heard is happening a lot. I have had a lot of capitalist like funding ⁓ offer to acquisition me as well. And I just keep turning it down. it's my baby, it's something for me. So I just I don't know. I think Crissy and Marie: It's happening all all over the place. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Meagan Schreiber: I don't wanna hand over my formula. I don't wanna, you know, I I have thousands of people that I help all the time. Why would I wanna take that connection away from somebody, you know? Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Yeah. Well, because you're doing it be because it makes you feel so good, right? And you have the heart in it and the passion in it. It's not just for the money. And it's not that's that's really where it it when it's when you're doing it solely for money and I don't want to say greed for most people, but sometimes that could come in, right? And an offer comes in that is just like, wow, you know, some people might take it just because they don't they're they don't have their skin in the game, you know, and you do, quote unquote. Meagan Schreiber: Right. I mean full transparency. Running a small business while being a mom is not for the faint of heart. And have I looked at some offers and been like, wow, I could take a little bit of time off. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: I mean the thought has crossed my mind, like, but then I sit back and I'm like, but what else would I do? And and my customers have become some of my closest friends. And like just knowing that what I create is in households across America and is helping like so many people. I just I really can't abandon that. Crissy and Marie: That's amazing. Mm-hmm. Well, because also too, let's let's talk a little bit, let's go back a little bit as to, you know, your your mission when you first started it, right? You were a recently divorced or single parent, right? And needing to make the money and be able to still stay home with your babies. I mean, that is such an empowering. mission also behind like just the passion behind it, but like to be able to do it to spend more time with your children too and not have to go into the corporate world and away from your children. And you could do these things kind of at night while they're sleeping or ⁓ you know, or get them involved. Yeah, get them involved too, depending on their age. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Yeah. And the journey that I've had through Talo has also even more importantly like restored my relationship. And like we've grown through that. You know what I mean? And so just to just to know that I I was in a I was postpartum with two kids and I was home and he was working and yes, I was helping other postpartums. Moms and that was filling my cup, but I was so lost myself, right? And I think that there is not enough of society talking about that make or break moment. And in that make or break moment, I was so lost. I went and created this community that literally saved me, that in turn saved my family. ⁓ yeah. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. One hundred percent. Yeah. Yeah. Well, because people don't want to talk about that. Postpartum is definitely one of those topics where as soon as most ⁓ families have ⁓ you know, or women have children, it's like they're expected just to kind of get back to normal. Right. Yeah. And that's that's our society. Right. Because I my best friend's Guatemalan and the family all moves in together. ⁓ you know, and the mom lays in bed. I wish I had that. Sure. Like right away. And and in the Postpartum depression and what is it, the baby blues, that is serious stuff. It's real. When I was in my master's degree and learning about this, and it is so ignored, and you you go to your OBJN and you fill out this silly little questionnaire, you know, and that's it. And then if you score so high, then you get the postpartum depression workup or whatever, which is really just medication. It's not really even therapist. ⁓ Meagan Schreiber: Serious. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: Profile. Right. Rather than trying to balance the hormones a little bit or work on resetting and regulating the nervous system and giving these beautiful poor women options and tools and practices to lean into when they need it the most. Breath work, meditation. And granted, I know there's most moms don't have a lot of time to give, but even five minutes just of breath work can really do wonders. Meagan Schreiber: Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: So thank you for bringing this topic and conversation forward because there's probably a lot of women listening to this that are like, gosh, she sees me, she hears me. I'm I'm her, right? And they're in it right now. Meagan Schreiber: I remember going through the the break ⁓ with my now husband, you know, and ⁓ I was still blogging at the time and I remember just sitting and trying to see things from an outside perspective, right? And I wrote this blog and it really took off, honestly. But it was why are you denying his postpartum time too? Crissy and Marie: Hm, yeah. Meagan Schreiber: Because we had we see these men as providers and what do they do? Yes, you go through this whole experience to have the child, you nurse the child, you're rebirthed, but this man got up that you know a week later and went right back to work like nothing is supposed to happen. But his life got flipped upside down too. And that was denied for him having any emotions or any skin in the game either. It's just, you know. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Meagan Schreiber: I think society as a whole fails postpartum altogether. You know what I mean? Because I think the whole family dynamic changes when a baby s comes into the picture. Crissy and Marie: ⁓ sure. I mean, 'cause when you go from just the two of you to now ⁓ you have this little baby to care for and most of the attention now is on this little thing, pulling away from the the the relationship of the couple. I'm not gonna say husband and wife, because it could be two wives, it could be two men, it could be whatever. So, ⁓ you know, but it is, it's just like Meagan Schreiber: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Crissy and Marie: This whole dynamic of what you thought your family was before and how it was before has now completely shifted and changed. And we don't talk about it. We just expect to kind of just go with the flow. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah, I mean, like the person watching the other one try and nurture this child, they're just as lost trying to help nurture that that adult. You know what I mean? That mom in that season. And and that can lead to a helplessness feeling as well. That I don't think, you know, people acknowledge enough. Like it's tough on everybody. Crissy and Marie: Mm. Mm-hmm. Right, right. You almost got you almost wonder if they're, and then maybe maybe that's out there now. My kids are 21 and 24 as we're recording this. So I really, really don't know. I'm like way out of the game. But it's almost like leading up to the birth, just like they do ⁓ the classes, labor classes and delivery classes. what about like couples and talking about like the shifts that are gonna change? how they can start to incorporate some of these practices so that when it happens, they're not just so shocked. And I know with women, postpartum also is very hormonal too. So there's certain things that are out of that their control when it happens. But to be also to to your point for the other person who maybe didn't actually deliver the child, ⁓ you know, how what are some practices that they could do to kind of Meagan Schreiber: Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: Learn to get more connected to the baby. I feel like I they need more. Honestly, I think all those pre-birth classes were a waste of time. And I did all sorts of stuff. First of all, I remember them telling me to meditate out of my body so I didn't feel anything because I didn't use any medications. And I was like, I want my money back. I feel everything. Everything. And then they, you know, they just tell you for me, I had a huge problem breastfeeding. I got engorged. I had like Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Crissy and Marie: Like melons. Yeah, like bigger than footballs. And it was hard and it was painful. And I I remember and I love my mom, but I remember her saying, It it's natural. It just happens. And that's what they said in the class. It's just a natural thing. It just happens. I can't do it. You know what I mean? And I was really upset. I cried and I went. Finally, I found a lactation specialist and she was my saving grace, but I felt so helpless. And then my husband's just looking at me, probably thinking I don't want to touch him, but I can't. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Yeah. Crissy and Marie: But yeah, I mean it's it's hard and there's so there's such a lack of education all around. Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: They're like just change positions. You'll be fine. Just put football position. It's okay. The pillow's in the wrong spot. They're like. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. And they're bleeding and they hurt. And I just remember one of my good friends saying that by the time she had her second and right back to back, like I think twelve months apart, and she's like, The babies are touching me, they're touching me, and then my husband wants to touch me at night, and she's like, I don't want anybody to touch my body. Yeah. You know, and that's that's probably hard for husbands as well. Sure. They're losing that connection. Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: But it it's it's a tough dynamic and there is just not enough education and support. And support in community. Meagan Schreiber: ja Not enough education and not enough communication. Like understanding communication. It's okay to not be okay in that time. Crissy and Marie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Meagan Schreiber: It's okay that this whole family shift has happened and you need to go to counseling now to relearn a new dynamic. I think that we're so fixated on pregnancy and pre-baby that the whole after is is a big b like glass ball dropped, you know, it shattered on the floor and like Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: if I could ever find a man that is willing to express ⁓ how hard postpartum is for men, because they put on a good face, right? They they really try. But I didn't know internally he felt ⁓ less then because he couldn't feed her. You know, like he was missing out on bonding times because it was so hard to get her to latch. He didn't know how to help except for like Crissy and Marie: Okay. Yeah. They're tough. Right. Meagan Schreiber: Can I make you something to eat? Like he wanted in the in the tears of of my despair, he was like, Do you do you need a hug? Like I didn't know what I needed. You know? Probably needed a rage room, honestly, but here we are. So Yeah. Crissy and Marie: Right. Yeah. Right. Right. And that's a good point, right? That's a good point to to allow yourself to to again, I keep coming back to time and I know as moms, new moms, we don't or dads, parents, family, we don't have a lot of time. However, it's really important to start to go inward and understand what emotions need to be felt. Am I feeling angry right now that going to a rage room would be awesome or hitting a punching bag would be awesome? Do I need to just cry it out because I'm I need to you know, it's ⁓ grieve my old body or my old self, my old life, right? Being okay with whatever it is and whatever is coming up for you is okay to not be okay, right? It's but I know it's not easy when you're just in the thick of it. You are just again surviving. And you gotta take the time to really hone in on like. Meagan Schreiber: Mm-hmm. Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Crissy and Marie: your emotions and and let ⁓ out as needed too, you know. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. And it it isn't always received well either, which is, you know, kind of stinks. ⁓ but I think as a society we have a lot of room to grow in the area for sure. I know I did. and I didn't that's kind of why my what my blog was designed for was just I wanted to reach that 3 a.m. mom who felt alone breastfeeding. Crissy and Marie: Sure. Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: And I wanted her to know that she wasn't alone. Right? Like we were all in it together because you think, especially with a brand new baby, you're the o you're sitting there failing. Like, why isn't my baby sleeping? Why isn't this happening? Why, you know, what do I need right now? And you're just you're sitting there so lost. And I just wanted another mom. That was my goal. I just wanted to reach one mom at three in the morning to let her know she wasn't alone. Crissy and Marie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. And then you read you read these books. What is it? The happiest baby on the block. Did you read that? You get a suck, you get a swaddle, swaddle, you got a sway, you get a shush. Those are the five S's. And I was like, how can I do that all at once? I'm like, it's it's nuts. Yeah, yeah, right? Yeah. Yeah. But you know what's kind of cute for new moms? What's coming up are all of these new mom fit or stroller type of Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. I'm just gonna do that for myself, okay? Crissy and Marie: groups and communities and support, which is really cute to see because not only are they out moving their bodies, which will also be really good for their hormones and their mental state, but now they're starting to build the the community community and friendships and connection. Exactly. And we can talk about those things like I'm doing this or mine one Meagan Schreiber: Yes. Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: Mine's going to solid food now or the sleeping. And if you you meet that mom where your kids are the same age, you can bounce everything off of each other. And that was huge. I loved my mom's groups. But I feel like you have to meet those moms with an understanding and not a comparison. It's not a competition of whose child is eating first or who's walking first, right? So when you're hearing that somebody else's kid is doing something and yours isn't. You have to be very mindful of your own mindset that you aren't in a competitive type of thing of like, ⁓ well, shoot, why isn't my kid doing that? Then you start going down this rabbit hole of like, what's wrong with my kid? And we all know that we all do things at different times. It doesn't mean that anything is wrong with us or anything is right with those kids, right? It's just we're all on our own timing. And that's really important. So for any of our moms out there. Meagan Schreiber: Mm-hmm. Yeah. I I had a a premi baby, my first baby, and I struggled to breastfeed up until about four months postpartum. ⁓ when I found out that my C section went wrong, I had to have a D and C and that it was like affecting my milk flow and it was just it was it was very, very hard, right? So when And of course the pediatrician said that my baby was petite because of me and my lack of being able to breastfeed and it was just very attacking of the mom, right? Which is why I didn't want another mom to feel that in any like retrospect. And so by the time I got to my second and I was tandem nursing, I was, you know, riding the good ride. I I knew at that point like how to, you know, Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: To to nurse, I remember the the pediatrician handed me like a chart and was like, okay, well they're you know blah blah blah percent, blah blah blah percent, blah blah percent. And I looked at her and I was like, with all due respect, ⁓ we're in the same age group. Are we on the same chart? Can we look at them as human? Can we can we address them as human beings and not a chart, please? And Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Right. ⁓ Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: And I'll never forget that was the most empowering moment I ever had as a mom. You know, because I I was able to sit back and be like, I don't have to compare to what the societal norm is. I can see that my my baby's rolling over or, you know, eating just fine or, you know, whatever. And it was it was me taking that like autonomy back as a mom. And I I think Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Well, listening to your intuition. Meagan Schreiber: Yes, I think the charts are great if there's concern, right? But I don't think we should ever lead with a chart and be like, okay, well this is where society is. And you're like, ⁓ no, am I doing it wrong? Am I doing it right? Like w why are we comparing with other people right off the bat? Crissy and Marie: Mm-hmm. Yeah. Right. Right. Yep. Mm-hmm. Yep. Because that's that's what so many people like to do, right? Turns and algorithms, that's how medicine is. Yeah. Rather than just kind of really listening to what feels intuitively right, you know, and and know your child. ⁓ and really just kind of understand them as a little human. And we're all different, but yet we're all the same. Meagan Schreiber: I know. Yeah. And we outsource so much of what we already intuitively know. Crissy and Marie: Mm-hmm. I say that all the time. We're all why are you asking so many questions outside of yourself? You know, we ⁓ am I doing this right? But if you take the time to slow down and just like hone in, you're like, ⁓ intuitively this feels right for me and my child or my loved ones or whatever. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. I know. And and honestly, I I did coach a lot through postpart ⁓ through the pandemic. ⁓ because so many people were struggling to even get appointments with lactation consultants and all of this stuff. And I was very loud about my breastfeeding journey at that point because I felt after I'd overcome so much of not being of struggling to breastfeed and then having the DNC and like going exclusive after that, I was like Guys, it's okay. It's okay. I started like getting very loud about breastfeeding. It's okay to breastfeed in public. It's okay if they're struggling to latch. It's okay if you're doing your best. It's okay if one ounce was the best you could do today. And I just wanted like that camaraderie. You know what I mean? And when the world shut down, everyone was like, I need help. I'm so alone. Talk about. Crissy and Marie: Mm. Yeah. ⁓ Meagan Schreiber: ⁓ my gosh, heartbreaking, right? You're already struggling in this like isolation moment and then now you can't even reach out and get answers that were readily available to me just a year prior. And Crissy and Marie: Even think about that. Yeah. Well, think about like you know, during the ⁓ pandemic. I mean, how many people when they're quarantined, if they were in abusive relationships or already feeling alone and don't have a lot of support around them, it was a very it was a crazy, crazy time and uncertain. It really was there's so many different things that came out of that different yeah. Meagan Schreiber: It was weird. Crissy and Marie: And then definitely some beautiful, great, yes, empowering things too, right? But however, there it's that was definitely a very uncertain and kind of scary time. Meagan Schreiber: I read a ⁓ a book called What Happened to You and it was written by a child psychologist and it goes back to ⁓ it was two main things that really hit me. One, so much of our nervous system is really designed around infancy. And two, ⁓ com like community is one of the most healing things we can ever do. Crissy and Marie: Mm. Meagan Schreiber: And so I it just like validated that I really think that we do both pardon so wrong. 'Cause how much better could society be if like the infant and mother felt safe during that time? Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Safe, safe. Well well the the children, first of all, you know, the the brain and your conscious level is still like from zero to seven, right? Like that time it's like the most permeable, right? And we're growing and we're receiving all the things, all the things. But there's also your children take on your own nervous system, right? So if the mom is scatterbrained and dysregulated. Meagan Schreiber: Right. Crissy and Marie: And frustrated all the time, the baby's gonna pick up on that. It just is they do, they do, and they'll have coping mechanisms. I mean, I have I'm Italian, so I have these huge outbursts every now and then, and I notice my son does it, and I was like, wait, that's not all right. I'm like, and then I'll calm down, you know, and I see him starting to do it, and it's like, ⁓ my gosh, he's learning from me. I gotta stop that. Yeah, it's probably too late, he's 15. Meagan Schreiber: Mm. Yeah. Same. It's passion. Crissy and Marie: It's never too late. Our brains are always changing and shifting. But ⁓ it's so funny. Yeah. But I mean, but some really great nervous system. Did you do any type of nervous system regulation during that time? And do you have any to offer? Meagan Schreiber: Ha ha. I think one big thing that is amazing is walking. Honestly. I think that finding a safe space to calm both of you down to be able to nurse is very important. ⁓ for my daughter, I could only get her to relax in the bath. So if it was time to nurse, we would sit in the bath ⁓ together. Crissy and Marie: Mm-hmm. Getting outside. Meagan Schreiber: My son, I had to turn on the box fan and just rock him. You know, when they get that like overly anxiety, I'm hungry and I'm tired and can't calm down. And I feel like it's very important and underestimated simple fixes. You don't you don't need to go out and buy a bunch of stuff, you know what I mean? You just need to be able to put you and your child your baby in a position to be able to take deep breaths. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Sure. The human body is designed to regulate. That is and we're supposed to live more in the parasympathetic nervous system rather than dysregulated and in in the sympathetic. But but it's just some using some of these, just like, okay, all right. Sometimes we do need things outside of ourselves like the box, you know, the fan and whatever. But our bodies really can if we just give it like a hot minute to to do that. And I will say I was had a heart Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Yeah. Crissy and Marie: like a lot of troubles my firstborn nursing and then my second burn a little bit. But then by the time that third baby came around, I was chill. Cause I was like, she's breathing, she's fine. Just throw on the boob and chase after the other two. So you learn, but there's no way to learn that until you go through it, right? Well, I mean, because when you think about it, with with your first child, everything is so unfamiliar, right? So your brain is like Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Right. Crissy and Marie: Gonna think about everything. If you're doing something, ⁓ my God, are we doing it wrong? Okay, if we're doing it wrong, then this is gonna happen. I gotta prepare for this. Your brain literally is just trying to keep you safe and the baby safe. But then as your second one, okay, well, now we're okay, we got it. Now we're a little bit more chill. And then by the third one, it's like, I'm a freaking pro at this. Cool. Right. Cause your nervous system, your brain is like, this is no longer deemed harmful. Meagan Schreiber: Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: Right. Well, and I saw a friend the other day and she had her third and I said, How is it it's much easier, right? She's like, Yeah, because I have no high expectations anymore. This is my third kid. And I was like, Exactly. I'm the third kid too, by the way. I'm I'm the baby of my two sisters. I'm the product of that. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Definitely I went from type A to type C mom faster than you can say Bob's your uncle. Crissy and Marie: That's a great way to put it. So I love that this is what developed your product though. It's amazing. Yeah. That this came out of it. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Yeah, it really did. I just I have such a soft spot in my heart for moms. Like I really would love to c to just continue to support moms like in any capacity for the rest of my life. Like I just feel like they are such special superheroes and they don't even see it within themselves. You know what I mean? Like they Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. ⁓ Meagan Schreiber: manage so much. They carry so much. They're so beautiful. They work so hard. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. I mean, think about the the female body and how gorgeous and powerful the female body is. I get chills every time I think about that because we can create life and we can keep life alive. I know, I know. Sorry guys, but it's it I really I just there's there is no stronger being on on the planet than a female. Sorry. Sorry guys. Meagan Schreiber: Yes, yes. Yes. When I was able to heal my stretch marks through my ⁓ my product, I was like, I want moms to feel good in their own skin again. Like that is that is that's what I want. I want you to just whoever you are and however you are, I want you to feel Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Feel beautiful. So which product do you recommend for that? What's your number one? Mm-hmm. Meagan Schreiber: For stretch marks, I used ⁓ the Queen Bee. Yeah. Yeah. I used the Queen Bee. That one Yeah. Crissy and Marie: The Queen Bee. That's it right here. Amazing. Mm. ⁓ wow. Yeah. Beautiful. I love that look. And we will we'll drop the link below so that they can go over to your website and shop. But they are really beautiful products. Everyone that she's opened smells just so delicious. And I too am gonna be going on there and And do you get the tallow in ⁓ Tennessee? Meagan Schreiber: Yeah, I source it local. ⁓ yeah. Yeah, so my men's line is from bison fat and I get that just south of me. It's probably like twenty-five minutes south of me in Cornersville. And then I get most of my ⁓ beef fat in College Grove, which is about forty minutes northwest. I mean northeast. Mm-hmm. Crissy and Marie: That's great. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah. Wait, and do you render it yourself or is it already rendered? ⁓ my gosh, that is a labor of love. We need to do that one day. Well, one day. That is seriously. Yeah. So you get your your upper body strike. The real fat and she processes it to the top. So this is this is the the point where I'm like, ⁓ gosh. You you want me on my on your team for the end of the world. Because I am a gardener and a grower and I can make soap. Yeah. Yeah. Meagan Schreiber: No, I landed. ⁓ It is a lot of work. Yes. Yeah. Crissy and Marie: I actually had a soap company in Tennessee. I'll support myself. I mean, I'll surround myself with with amazing women who can do it. I did the soap company in Tennessee and we were in some boutiques and I taught a lot of classes because I wanted people to learn how to do it because you could do it twice a year and have soap for your family for the year. And ⁓ it is that is a tricky one too, because we use lie, you know, and you could go blind. You could burn yourself. You can kill somebody with lie, actually. Okay. Meagan Schreiber: Сі, а на сумти, до ньо. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, people ask me all the time, are you gonna do soap? Are you gonna do soap? And I was like, I have young kids. I'm not doing soap unless I have like a separate soap house to like do it in because the aeration you need of like airflow is next level. So yeah, I'll just stick to rendering my cow fat, making my house smell like stew for a couple days. It's fine. Crissy and Marie: Yeah, I know. Right. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes. Mm-hmm. Stick to it, yeah. It's fine. Well, everything is amazing. And like I said, we'll drop the link below, but definitely go and support our girl Megan out and ⁓ order yourself some tallow. Tallow and honey. Tallow and honey. I love the name too. It's so cute, so basic, but just so like easy to say right off the tip of the tongue. Meagan Schreiber: Yes. When I was ⁓ branding, I w took like just a pen and I drew the worst cow. It there's a picture on my Instagram. Like the worst cow on a napkin and I was like trying to do a B and I just like it it had stripes, but it was like this it was so bad. It was so bad. But I sent it over to like a a logo ⁓ the you know, designer and it came back and I was like Crissy and Marie: Ha ha Mm-hmm. Meagan Schreiber: Okay. Crissy and Marie: That's my vision. That's what I see. I couldn't draw it. Excellent. I love it. Meagan Schreiber: But sometimes when you're just going in like you're on that high of like, I can do this, I can do this, it it does not translate very well on paper sometimes. Crissy and Marie: That's okay. We all have our own gifts, but that's why you hire somebody to do that, right? You have it and you just let somebody else actually bring it to life. But to your point, you know, like do things we can all do things that make us scared. We can all do things that might be out of our comfort zone, right? Like you starting a tallow and honey company, you know, for yourself and for postpartum moms and babies. Meagan Schreiber: ⁓ yeah. Crissy and Marie: And if you have an an amazing thought in your mind, just do it. You can do it. You can do it. We have the power. Meagan Schreiber: Yeah. Four years ago when ⁓ playing with beef fat was just weird, that's when I did it. Crissy and Marie: Love it. Love it. Love it. Meagan Schreiber: Now it's trending and I'm like, what, you saw it on TikTok? Huh. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. That's great. We got the OG tallow girl here. ⁓ thank you, Megan. This is excellent. Yeah. Thank you so much for sharing your story and your passion with us and all of our community. It was ⁓ really great to chat with you. Yeah, great. Meagan Schreiber: I try, man. Yeah. Thank you guys. I am so grateful you guys reached out and we got to chat because this has been awesome. It filled my cup. Crissy and Marie: Yeah. Yeah. Same same. Cheers to that. All right, guys. Until next time. Thanks again, Megan. Meagan Schreiber: Absolutely. Thank you. Bye. Crissy and Marie: Okay.