Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / From Analyst to Influencer: Leveraging Sales Skills in AML/KYC
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Today I decided to tackle a
- 0:06challenge. There are some people who listen
- 0:08to the show who do not believe that sales and business
- 0:10development skills can help you improve your career, improve
- 0:14your lot as a parent, or improve your lot in whatever it is that
- 0:17you are trying to achieve that is significant to your life or
- 0:21whatever significant goals that you're trying to achieve.
- 0:23So today I decided to pick the most left field discipline that
- 0:29I can and so I'm going to look at how sales and business
- 0:32development skills can benefit people in the AML space, the KYC
- 0:37space and monitoring analysts in banks.
- 0:41So now let's define some terms because some of you are
- 0:44wondering ABC what XYZ what. So the words that I'd used were
- 0:49AML. That just means anti money
- 0:52laundering and then KYC, know your customer and then
- 0:57transaction monitoring. Now there are lots of people in
- 1:01Nigeria who work in banks and financial institutions who have
- 1:04these job roles and they're often focused on looking for
- 1:08suspicious activity. Now of course we know that with
- 1:12the history that we've had in Nigeria, 419 corruption, all
- 1:15these sorts of things and these sorts of job roles have been on
- 1:18the rise including is it risk management or risk mitigation or
- 1:22something like that. But today I'm just going to
- 1:24focus on the anti money laundering crew, the know your
- 1:28Customer crew and the transaction monitoring crew.
- 1:30Now the reason why I'm picking on them is not just because this
- 1:33is topical and you and I know people who work in these fields
- 1:38in banks. In fact, you probably have a
- 1:40relative who works at the bank carrying out these kinds of
- 1:43functions, but also because these are people who have no
- 1:46customer facing function. Well at least not directly,
- 1:50because when you go into the bank, you speak to the customer,
- 1:54customer service person, that person is lassing with you.
- 1:57They have a customer facing function, the anti money
- 2:00laundering people, the KYC know your customer people,
- 2:03transaction monitoring people. Typically they sit behind a desk
- 2:07all day, they're looking at files, they're looking at
- 2:10computer programs, excel sheets, ledgers, you know, whatever.
- 2:13I'm trying to figure out you know this 100 M that hit this
- 2:17guy's account. Is it because this guy is a four
- 2:19diner? Is it a legit transaction?
- 2:22What are the probabilities that this is legit?
- 2:25And should we flag the police? Should we flag the EFCC?
- 2:29For those of you who are not Nigerian, the EFCC is the
- 2:32Economics and Financial Crimes Commission.
- 2:36So you could say it's the some part of the equivalent of the
- 2:39American FBI. So yeah, so that's why I'm
- 2:43picking these people because they have no customer facing
- 2:46functions and I want to show how any knowledge that you have of
- 2:49sales skills and business development skills can help you
- 2:53even if you're in a job role that does not involve
- 2:56interacting with the end customers.
- 2:59So sales and business development skills are important
- 3:04for anti money laundering People know your customer people,
- 3:07transaction monitoring people, people who are trying to look
- 3:10out for financial crime. It's important to you because it
- 3:13gives you more impact on the job because sales and business
- 3:17development skills will help you with communication skills and
- 3:21relationship building skills and would also help you to be more
- 3:24persuasive because it's going to help you submit your findings to
- 3:28colleagues. Because you have to present
- 3:30complex information and you also have to influence decisions or
- 3:34gain some buy in. Now this is not all grammar
- 3:37because we've all heard of well, some of us are much older I
- 3:41think was that I think it was well my secondary school anyway.
- 3:46Into university well ahead of the I can't remember the bank.
- 3:50No, not Credit Suisse. But was one of these big banks
- 3:53that had a huge trading division and there was somebody there who
- 3:57was running bad trade that was costing the company money and
- 4:01people. I think it ran into close to
- 4:04billions of dollars and people were all up in arms about like
- 4:08how can you have this guy who is a trader and your establishment
- 4:11making all these bad deals but yet nobody knew, nobody said
- 4:15look, let's look into this. The transactions here might be
- 4:19shady. Now The thing is, it's not that
- 4:22nobody knew, because let's face it, if there's somebody in the
- 4:26business or if you work in a bank and there are people who
- 4:30are passing all kinds of money left and right and here and
- 4:33there and things look shady. It's not that nobody knew, but
- 4:37that the people who knew didn't think that they had the power or
- 4:42the authority or the persuasive skills to make this thing a red
- 4:46hot agenda. You know, bring it to the people
- 4:48on the board, bring it to the ex school, bring it to the head of
- 4:51department or whatever and say look Olga, we definitely need to
- 4:55look into this because of this, this, this and that.
- 4:58Now those are the things that sales and business development
- 5:00skills can help you with. If you're in an anti money
- 5:03laundering role or if you're in a know your customer role or if
- 5:07you're in doing transaction monitoring because you're
- 5:09watching out for fraud, you're going to have much more
- 5:12communication skills. You're going to be much more
- 5:14persuasive. You're going to be able to
- 5:16present your findings to your colleagues or to your
- 5:20departmental chief or chairperson or chairlady or
- 5:24whatever. And you're going to be able to
- 5:27gain buying. Now sales and business
- 5:29development skills. Also going to help you build
- 5:31trust with internal stakeholders because people who work in these
- 5:35kind of roles, you know anti money laundering, checking up on
- 5:39fraud and things like that, they often have to work with people
- 5:41in compliance and legal compliance.
- 5:44Those are the people who are trying to make sure is everybody
- 5:46following the rules. So let's say you work in
- 5:49Ministry of Finance or CBN and there's a compliance department,
- 5:53then the compliance people in CBN are the ones who are going
- 5:56round. Sorry CBN.
- 5:58For those of you who are not Nigerian, that's the Central
- 6:00Bank of Nigeria. I think they'll be the
- 6:02equivalent of the American and the UK Fed.
- 6:07So you work in the CBN and you're in the compliance
- 6:11department. Your job is to make sure that
- 6:13you go around, You look at banks, you make sure that all
- 6:15their capital ratios are in check.
- 6:17How much money do you guys have in the vault?
- 6:19How much money do you guys have to settle claims?
- 6:23Let's see, what else? What is the ratio of the amount
- 6:25of money that you lent out to the amount of money that you
- 6:29guys do have involved so that you need to settle any claim?
- 6:32You know, those sorts of things. Forgive me if I'm using the
- 6:34wrong term, you know, because I'm a lame man here, but I trust
- 6:38that you guys are getting the gist of what I'm trying to say.
- 6:41So yeah, people who work in anti money laundering, fraud
- 6:45transaction, blah, blah, blah, you always have to work with
- 6:48compliance people. Compliance people are trying to
- 6:49figure out is everybody following the rules and then
- 6:52legal. It's well, legal is also part of
- 6:55compliance. You know, is everybody following
- 6:57the rules? How things have been set up
- 6:58correctly? So you find out that if you work
- 7:00in transaction monitoring or know your customer, you find
- 7:03that you not only have to deal with people within your
- 7:06department, you know your departmental chief, your
- 7:09departmental head, your colleagues, your fellow
- 7:12analysts, but you also have to deal with people across the
- 7:15aisle in compliance and legal. So there'll be times that you
- 7:17have to stand up, carry a file or folder and go to people in
- 7:20compliance and say, hey look, Kunle or Sadiq Ahmed, you know,
- 7:28this is a red hot issue. I think we should flag this.
- 7:31We have to go after these people.
- 7:33We have to do compliance, we have to do institute court
- 7:35action or we have to go and chase them with police and, you
- 7:38know, blah, blah, blah. So you have to be able to build
- 7:41trust, build influence and be able to gain buy in, not just
- 7:45from people in your department or people in other departments
- 7:48as well, so that you can be effective.
- 7:50And those are the reasons why, you know when these things hit
- 7:53the news, you know role traders in the West or maybe in Nigeria.
- 7:58Huge cases of corruption is not people didn't know, but there's
- 8:02someone in department who knew that.
- 8:03Look, this thing seems fishy. Billions of naira is just moving
- 8:06here and there any which way. But the figure who am I lowly
- 8:10me. I don't know how to to build the
- 8:13case. I don't have influence.
- 8:15I'm not connected, you know, blah blah, blah.
- 8:17And so sales and business development skills can help you
- 8:19be more effective in doing your job.
- 8:23Of course sometimes people who have these sorts of functions
- 8:29monitoring KYC, New York customer, sometimes in the
- 8:33limited cases they do have customer facing functions and
- 8:36that is where they have to negotiate or maybe educate
- 8:39people on KYC things because it's not my favorite call.
- 8:42When I receive a call from the bank saying can you come and
- 8:45update your BVN or come and update this, come and update
- 8:47that, you know, blah blah, blah, blah, blah.
- 8:49And of course, it's a very frustrating thing to do because
- 8:52I'm thinking like I set this up months ago.
- 8:55I've already updated it twice. Why do I have to come back
- 8:58again? Blah, blah, blah.
- 8:59So people who are in this job role, they need sales training
- 9:03so that they can be calm and, you know, educate the clients
- 9:06that yes, you may have done this and done this, but this might
- 9:09have been done incorrectly. We need to do this properly
- 9:12because if you don't do this, it creates Ave. for fraud here,
- 9:14here, here and here. And this is how people can steal
- 9:16money from your account. So if you do not have customer
- 9:21service training, sales and business development training,
- 9:24and you work in these sorts of roles, you're going to handle
- 9:26these conversations poorly. Because I have family members in
- 9:29the past who have been contacted by these sorts of people.
- 9:32And at the end of the day, you know, you rant, you complain and
- 9:35everything, and they just say, look, I'm sorry, my you have to
- 9:37come in because you have to come in.
- 9:39And unfortunately, if that's your attitude, you have to come
- 9:42in because you have to come in. The rate of compliance that
- 9:44you're going to get is quite low because people are frustrated,
- 9:47have lots of things to do with their lives.
- 9:49It doesn't seem like it's important and you just say
- 9:52coming because I say so. Chances are you talk to 100
- 9:55people. Who knows, maybe 90 people are
- 9:57going to ignore you. But with the proper training,
- 9:59you're able to calm people down, you're able to be personable,
- 10:02have a conversation, you're able to educate them on why this is
- 10:07important, why that's important. Then who knows, You might be
- 10:10able to talk to 100 people and maybe get 50 to come in.
- 10:13You know it's better than having 80 or 90 people ignore you.
- 10:17So in summary, the main benefit if you work in a bank and you
- 10:22work in anti money laundering, know your customer, transaction
- 10:25monitoring, monitoring, fraud, all these sorts of things.
- 10:28Maybe you listen to the podcast but one but you think look, all
- 10:31these things don't. It's not important to me.
- 10:34These are skills that I'm not going to use.
- 10:36The most important thing is this.
- 10:38By listening to shows like this and listening to these sorts of
- 10:42looking out for this kind of content, you're going to gain
- 10:45skills in strategic communications and is going to
- 10:48make you result focused. So yes, focus on your technical
- 10:52expertise. How do you read graphs, how do
- 10:55you read fundamentals, how do you flag fraudulent behaviour,
- 10:58blah blah blah. But also pay attention to these
- 11:00sorts of things because how do you communicate strategically?
- 11:04How do you build influence? How do you do cross-border
- 11:07collaborations or cross departmental collaborations, All
- 11:10those sorts of things. So everyone, and believe me,
- 11:15everyone can get better with sales training and business
- 11:19development training. If you're not convinced, then no
- 11:22problem. Connect with me, tell me what
- 11:25you do and I'll make a podcast episode showing you how you can
- 11:29be better doing your job with sales and business development
- 11:33training. So connect with me on the
- 11:35socials, most especially LinkedIn where I spend most of
- 11:38my time. My name is Tavishima Ayede.
- 11:41I'm the host of the show. You can confirm the spelling of
- 11:44my name from the link. We're listening to this episode.
- 11:46My e-mail address will be there so that you can hit me up if
- 11:49that's how you prefer. Also, connect with me on
- 11:52WhatsApp. My phone number is 08064662140.
- 11:59The country code is +234. For those of you who are not
- 12:02Nigerian, you can hit me up on Telegram.
- 12:05To be honest, I really checked that maybe once a month.
- 12:09But if you hit me up on WhatsApp, I can assure you send
- 12:11me a message today, last last tomorrow, you'd have gotten a
- 12:15response from me. So thanks for your time and
- 12:17attention. I'll catch you guys at the next
- 12:19episode.