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"you're a big deal in italy!" ft. katie kadan · Top Five

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  Speaker 1: Episode forty six of the Top five podcast. I am Kaylin,
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  Speaker 1: sitting across from my co host Jason Brown.
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  Speaker 2: Hello, and if you're new here.
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  Speaker 1: Every week we pick five things we love and one
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  Speaker 1: thing that we made that made us cry, crash out,
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  Speaker 1: or that we hate, because that is just the world
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  Speaker 1: we live in.
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  Speaker 2: We need an outlet. And we talked shit in between.
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  Speaker 1: But today we have a very very special guest, which
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited about, who is sometimes y'all referred to and
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if she knows this as the love
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  Speaker 1: child of Amy Winehouse, Adele and Janis Joplin.
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  Speaker 2: And I'm adding in one more jesus, Katie.
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  Speaker 3: Cayden, Hello, those are my parents.
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  Speaker 1: They all somehow are your parents, all four of them.
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  Speaker 3: I love it.
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  Speaker 1: And like, we got to get a nail cam after this,
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  Speaker 1: because we got leopard, We've got hotpenes.
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  Speaker 3: No, I had to come back home and be fabulous exactly.
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  Speaker 4: Oh no, girl, you're right there, so show your nails.
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  Speaker 5: I need to.
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  Speaker 1: I should not wear type pants anymore. Should Yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: don't like pants at all. Jason knows this, he doesn't
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  Speaker 1: love it. But I like to winnie the poo all
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  Speaker 1: the time. So that's my preferred state.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm weird. I always have to have pants on.
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  Speaker 4: I don't know, and even in the house, like she
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  Speaker 4: freaks out because I wear jeans at home, like just
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  Speaker 4: like I.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know, Like I can't trust him.
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  Speaker 5: I have sweatpants, but like I don't like them.
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  Speaker 3: I don't dress. I'm gonna send you some stretch pants
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  Speaker 3: or some like a denim stretch.
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  Speaker 2: Like, yes, you can wear your jaggings.
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  Speaker 5: You weird all me launching on the couch and jaggings
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  Speaker 5: as well.
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  Speaker 2: I don't fully trust you because of that.
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  Speaker 4: So good, Okay, I'm so excited to have you here
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  Speaker 4: because I was blazing you a little bit before we started,
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  Speaker 4: Like I've been a fan for so long, and I
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  Speaker 4: remember the first time I heard you and your voice
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  Speaker 4: just like gave me chills. And obviously I first heard
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  Speaker 4: of you on the voice, and so we won't spend
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  Speaker 4: a lot of time there, but I want to talk
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  Speaker 4: a little bit about that because that had to be
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  Speaker 4: an insane experience, right, and but I just remember you
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  Speaker 4: coming on. You were already like seasoned, like you knew
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  Speaker 4: what you were doing, like you were just out there
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  Speaker 4: killing the stage, like giving me all the goosebumps, and
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  Speaker 4: those are like the voices in this world that I
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  Speaker 4: love that like really just makes me feel something, and
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  Speaker 4: that that is totally you could you just wrap up
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  Speaker 4: a little bit just like what that experience was like
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  Speaker 4: and what you sort of left with that sort of
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  Speaker 4: like helped you continue on.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I never wanted to be on the show in
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  Speaker 3: the first place. And they had they had some headhunters
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  Speaker 3: or whatever, singer hunters, whatever they want to call them,
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  Speaker 3: and they contacted me, and I talked with the guy
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  Speaker 3: and I was like, no, I'm not interested, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: What by the way, She's like, I didn't want to
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  Speaker 1: go on it, and they were seeking me out, and
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  Speaker 1: what was.
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  Speaker 5: Your reasoning for that?
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  Speaker 3: Competition? And I hate competition. I feel like there's a
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  Speaker 3: safe there's a place for all of us, you know,
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  Speaker 3: we just got to find it. And I'm like no.
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  Speaker 3: And then he called me back. He's like, can you
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  Speaker 3: just try out? And I'm like, all right, I'm too
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  Speaker 3: old for standing in line for hours. Can you have
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  Speaker 3: me Sashville. I tried out, and then I was on
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  Speaker 3: the show, and I'm glad I did it. I was
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  Speaker 3: actually thinking about going back to school at the time,
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  Speaker 3: because you know, the musician life was is and can
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  Speaker 3: be very rough.
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  Speaker 5: It's a grind.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a grind. You always got a hustle, you
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  Speaker 3: know what I mean, anyway you can. And you know,
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  Speaker 3: before my name was Katie came the best kept secret
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  Speaker 3: in Chicago. And then when I was on the show,
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  Speaker 3: it was like for me, I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 3: it was it was kind of easy because I took
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  Speaker 3: it seriously, but not that seriously. I just like, if
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  Speaker 3: I'm not going to have fun, and I just need
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  Speaker 3: to see if America likes me, right, and uh and
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  Speaker 3: they did. They did. It was fun. It was a
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  Speaker 3: lot of fun, from the I mean obviously celebrity hosts
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  Speaker 3: to you know, everybody behind the scenes too, was so
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  Speaker 3: lovely and the cast and everybody.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, it was awesome.
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  Speaker 4: It was there something that sort of you're then like
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  Speaker 4: took with you and the rest of your like, oh,
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  Speaker 4: I'm glad I got to experience that, or there was
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  Speaker 4: a little tidbit of like, oh, like you know you
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  Speaker 4: I always I think I'm a firm believer in like
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  Speaker 4: every experience that you have, you pick up little gems
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  Speaker 4: along the way, whether it be professionally or in your
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  Speaker 4: private life or whatever.
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  Speaker 5: And so again, you were already a star.
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  Speaker 4: It seems like before you even came on the show,
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  Speaker 4: because you just killed it from the very get go.
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  Speaker 4: But was there something that you were like, Okay, I'm
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  Speaker 4: gonna take this with me.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, continue to be your most authentic self no matter what.
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  Speaker 5: And you do that, girl, Yeah, you know I have to.
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  Speaker 3: I have to because I was. I think I was
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  Speaker 3: trying to to be what everybody wanted me to be.
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  Speaker 3: And I think once you hit your forties it just
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  Speaker 3: like stopped that. But I was in my thirties at
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  Speaker 3: the time, and I was just like, I can't pretend
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  Speaker 3: to be anybody that I'm not. So if people like me,
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  Speaker 3: that's awesome, because who doesn't want to be loved. Everybody
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  Speaker 3: wants to be loved. And people have been gracious. My
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  Speaker 3: fans have been awesome from it. And it opened up
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  Speaker 3: the doors to why I'm here and to all the
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  Speaker 3: other places too. It was. It was a blessing in disguise.
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  Speaker 3: It was and fun.
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  Speaker 1: I'm curious because obviously you can sing really anything, in
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  Speaker 1: my opinion, any genre, but I'm curious what the music
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  Speaker 1: was in your household when you were growing up, because
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  Speaker 1: I'm fascinated with how that influences us. For example, my
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  Speaker 1: parents got divorced when I was one and a half
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  Speaker 1: and can't stand each other, and so they could not
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  Speaker 1: be more different. My mom's like a little affair girly,
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  Speaker 1: like the Sarah McLachlin, like All Atlantis, and then my
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  Speaker 1: dad is the reason Tupac is my favorite rapper.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm a lot of things.
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  Speaker 1: So what were you hearing in your house and did
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  Speaker 1: that kind of form your influences?
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  Speaker 5: Yes?
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  Speaker 3: Absolutely, I come from a real musical family. Okay, so
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  Speaker 3: my mom was a singer and not by profession but
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  Speaker 3: just because she loved it. Folk singer and my daddy
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  Speaker 3: they're complete opposites, but they've been married for almost fifty
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  Speaker 3: seven years. It's crazy where my daddy loves soul music,
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  Speaker 3: so you know, it was from and I grew up
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  Speaker 3: in the church too, so like, oh, I was three
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  Speaker 3: and they're like, oh, you can sing, come on, let's go,
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  Speaker 3: and and I was a really I don't know, this
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  Speaker 3: is going to be shocking, a very shy kid. That
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  Speaker 3: was my safe space too, so it was fun. It was,
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  Speaker 3: you know, singing. My mom was a songwriter, too, So
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  Speaker 3: I would wake up in the middle of the night.
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  Speaker 3: I would hear her at the kitchen table with her guitar.
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  Speaker 3: I'm like, and she'd ask me questions. But I was little,
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  Speaker 3: what do you think about that? Like, I don't like
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  Speaker 3: that bridge, maybe we could try this, and she's like, oh,
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  Speaker 3: and she'd start listening to me. So it was listening
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  Speaker 3: to my parents' records from Andre Crouch to Aretha Franklin
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  Speaker 3: to Al Green. Yeah that's I love that.
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  Speaker 2: And we have an altar boy here, yeah, former altar boy.
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  Speaker 4: And oh yeah it is.
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  Speaker 2: And then I'm like a funerals and I'm like, I
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  Speaker 2: should not be.
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  Speaker 5: Am I going so hard?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah he has that experience as well.
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  Speaker 2: But I'm not saying Unfortunately, no, I couldnot see you.
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  Speaker 5: I tried.
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  Speaker 4: I tried to be inquired, and I'm always like, you
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  Speaker 4: know what if my parents had a lick of talent,
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  Speaker 4: maybe I could be somewhere doing something, an international pop superstar.
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  Speaker 5: I don't know.
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  Speaker 1: Alcoholism is all I got passed that kidding literally depression.
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  Speaker 4: So you have been a big star in Italy.
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  Speaker 5: Tell me, like, also how.
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  Speaker 4: It was so aband, Like you sold out six shows
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  Speaker 4: in Italy, right, this year, earlier this year.
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  Speaker 5: Why Italy.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, it was so random. I got on my Facebook
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  Speaker 3: by some dude named Vinnie, you know, and I was
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  Speaker 3: going through stuff and I'm like, oh, and I never
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  Speaker 3: checked my messages on Facebook, and I just hit it
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  Speaker 3: at the right time, right, And he's like, hey, I'm
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  Speaker 3: a musician from Milano. Not Milano? Where was he from?
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  Speaker 3: To Reno and he's like, I'm a blues musician. I
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  Speaker 3: play with this band. We'd love to have you come
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  Speaker 3: out here. We like to have Americans come out here.
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  Speaker 3: And I saw you on a Spotify things singing voodoo woman,
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  Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, well, let's set up a thing
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  Speaker 3: and see if you're not a crazy murderer.
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  Speaker 2: I was gonna say, did you believe it was real?
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  Speaker 2: At hers?
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  Speaker 3: At first?
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  Speaker 2: It's Vinnie from Italy?
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  Speaker 3: Send me a So I'm gullible.
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  Speaker 2: I'd be on the first flight to see Vinnie.
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  Speaker 3: So I you know. And he said, Hey, I'm gonna
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  Speaker 3: give you all the musicians that have come I'm out
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  Speaker 3: here to know that I'm Rappu double and stuff. And
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  Speaker 3: so I went out there kind of on a whim
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  Speaker 3: and they became my Italian family. It was amazing. They
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  Speaker 3: set up all the shows for me. All I had
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  Speaker 3: to do is show up. I had some of the
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  Speaker 3: greatest musicians in Italy. Actually, one of the guys, Alberto Marzico,
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  Speaker 3: I had to practice that for a couple of minutes.
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  Speaker 3: You nailed that a couple of days, and which is
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  Speaker 3: the organist of all of Europe. And I'm like, such
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  Speaker 3: humble musicians and it was amazing And I'm going back.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah November. You guys want to come, you are? Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Well, selfishly, I'm going next week to Italy and I
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  Speaker 1: need like I was just gonna like so part of
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  Speaker 1: the trip.
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  Speaker 2: I'm going to be all by my lonesome.
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  Speaker 1: So any tips you may have, I've never done this before.
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  Speaker 1: First going with family and then they're leaving and I'm terrified.
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  Speaker 1: But any Italian tips for me?
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  Speaker 3: Go to Turin. Go to Terurino, okay, because all the
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  Speaker 3: other spots like Milan and Venice everything, so many tourists. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I felt like Turin was just it was relaxed, cheaper,
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  Speaker 3: I mean inexpensive. You can find hotels for okay cheap,
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  Speaker 3: and the people are so lovely. There's so much fun
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  Speaker 3: and you don't have to speak the language. You just
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  Speaker 3: got to show me a little mill and say, oh,
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  Speaker 3: I love you.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, I do know like the food words.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I am half Italian, so it's a disgrace
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  Speaker 1: that I like it that I can barely speak it.
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  Speaker 2: But I know, you know, to talk about spaghetti and cappellini.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, gosh, talking in accent will work.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my mom is going to be embarrassing and just
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  Speaker 1: like speak louder like that's what she does to people
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  Speaker 1: when there's a language barrier, or my step dad will
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  Speaker 1: revert to like Portuguese because he can speak that. I'm like, okay,
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  Speaker 1: we're like, we're not doing this, so I'm but yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I'm excited but nervous. So you're you're giving me all Yes,
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  Speaker 1: we want to come in November to we want to go.
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  Speaker 5: I know it all about the food.
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  Speaker 4: Was there one thing that you were like, oh my gosh,
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  Speaker 4: like I have to eat over and over and over
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  Speaker 4: again because I could just imagine stuff right.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I'm gluten free here because it bloats me there.
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  Speaker 3: You can eat it in the bus and the noki
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  Speaker 3: and everything is great. It's everything's homemade from scratch and
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  Speaker 3: and they're wonderful and wine.
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  Speaker 2: I can't wait.
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  Speaker 3: Wine is famulous.
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  Speaker 2: I in like a red wine.
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  Speaker 3: Face headaches either isn't sad?
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  Speaker 2: That's because it's like real.
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  Speaker 3: Real.
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  Speaker 5: Drinking toxics.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, my aunt leg has a house and she's like,
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  Speaker 1: I lost weight eating pasta and I'm like, well damn.
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  Speaker 3: And they walk everywhere too, yea, which I was like texting,
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  Speaker 3: Oh my.
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  Speaker 5: God, that's so funny.
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  Speaker 4: I do want to talk a little bit because you
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  Speaker 4: give back a lot, which is awesome and I and
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  Speaker 4: I want to highlight that a little bit because you
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  Speaker 4: do a lot of stuff for aspiring musicians. I want
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  Speaker 4: you to talk a little bit about the importance of
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  Speaker 4: that and why that is such a hot button for
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  Speaker 4: you and how important it is to give back to
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  Speaker 4: people that you know have a dream and want to
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  Speaker 4: sort of be doing what you're doing.
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  Speaker 3: Because I noticed there's not a lot of mentorship within
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  Speaker 3: in the industry, you know, I think, I don't know
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  Speaker 3: if the industry has kind of made something of like
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  Speaker 3: you have to think about yourself, Just think about yourself.
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  Speaker 3: And like, growing up, I was a fan of the sixties, right,
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  Speaker 3: and like watching Janis Joplin with Mama Cass and everybody
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  Speaker 3: was friends. I'm like, why can't that still be a thing?
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  Speaker 3: You know? And so I just I love it's not dead,
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  Speaker 3: it's just hard to find. It's really hard to find
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  Speaker 3: that community. So I wanted to give back. And when
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  Speaker 3: I see such talent and I didn't know what to do,
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  Speaker 3: I think I'm faking it to make it every day,
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  Speaker 3: you know what I mean a little bit every day,
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  Speaker 3: because the industry is also kind of like the wild
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  Speaker 3: wild West, and just I'd like to encourage people, especially
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  Speaker 3: when you have a talent. Music is the peacemaker, right,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we can set up all of our beliefs,
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  Speaker 3: our politics and everything that's so divided in our world
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  Speaker 3: right now, that we could just set it at the
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  Speaker 3: door and then we're all there for a common thing
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  Speaker 3: is music and to bring that piece. So mentorship is important.
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  Speaker 3: I was a teacher, the daughter of a teacher, so
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  Speaker 3: many teachers in my family. So it started with vocal
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  Speaker 3: coaching and then it kind of transitioned into mentorship. Like
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  Speaker 3: how do I pursue this scary, horrible thing called the
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  Speaker 3: stage and own it? How do I do I have
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  Speaker 3: to put on a persona like Sasha Fierce, like Beyonce does. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: sure you can, but like you can also be yourself
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  Speaker 3: on stage yea, and people will listen, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, people are listening. Do you still do you
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  Speaker 4: get nervous before performance because you just seem you just
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  Speaker 4: exude confidence and you just go up there and kill
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  Speaker 4: it and just wail and I'm sure everyone is just
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  Speaker 4: blown away. Maybe no, But do you still get like
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  Speaker 4: nerves and nervous before a show.
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  Speaker 3: Because I wanted, you know, I guess that perfectionist brain
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  Speaker 3: goes on sometimes I'm just like I just want to
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  Speaker 3: give them the best show, or I'm feeling scratchy. Oh
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  Speaker 3: my gosh. My best sie, Christina, she travels with me
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  Speaker 3: and she's always like, you get your I can say,
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  Speaker 3: ship right, ship together, girl, You're gonna be fine. It's
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  Speaker 3: just like those negative thoughts kind of come in right before,
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  Speaker 3: but once you hit your feet on the ground and
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  Speaker 3: you're out there, it all melts away. So I feel
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  Speaker 3: like it's not a bad thing to have nerves, because
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  Speaker 3: if you get out there being too.
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  Speaker 5: Cocky, something's gonna happen.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, I want to do the best. You brought
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  Speaker 1: up your vocal coaching. I know you do some online.
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  Speaker 1: I want to if there's someone who like you hear
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  Speaker 1: them and there's just like you're like, oh, like there's
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  Speaker 1: there's no they have no pitch, no to like, is
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  Speaker 1: there something.
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  Speaker 5: You can do well?
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  Speaker 1: Also, I mean you've heard me sing a million times. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: well yeah, I'm speaking on myself. Like, are you like,
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  Speaker 1: is there ever a situation where you're like, I can't
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  Speaker 1: do anything with that?
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  Speaker 2: You know you won't say it, I'm sure, but Okay.
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  Speaker 3: At first, when I first started, I was like, oh falling, Okay,
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  Speaker 3: what am I gonna do?
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  Speaker 2: How do I do this?
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  Speaker 3: I started studying, Okay. I had one of my students
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  Speaker 3: was down syndrome, so a lot of times their voices
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  Speaker 3: can have a monotone kind of tone. And when I
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  Speaker 3: would talk about like sometimes notes go up and sometimes
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  Speaker 3: notes go down, So I want you to match, and
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  Speaker 3: we would use our hands going up when we'd go
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  Speaker 3: up and down. And she started with this song. I
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  Speaker 3: swear in two months she could sing on KEI on pitch.
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  Speaker 3: She was learning how to really listen. I also had
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  Speaker 3: this guy who was you know in UH in combat.
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  Speaker 3: You know it was in the army, lost his hearing
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  Speaker 3: from a certain uh pitch from you know whatever to whatever,
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  Speaker 3: and I said, Okay, we're gonna play with vibration. Vibration,
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  Speaker 3: you can feel dissonance in your body, and so I
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  Speaker 3: would play sounds really really loud, and I'm like sing
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  Speaker 3: and imagine from the places that you can hear in
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  Speaker 3: the lower register. If you're going up in half steps,
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  Speaker 3: what does it feel like in your body? And he
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: was able to sing those notes by listening to dissonance
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: in the vibration in his body. Wow.
• 16:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, both of those things.
• 16:43
  Speaker 4: It's gonna so you have a show this weekend Lincoln Hall.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: It's just I love that venue so excited and I've
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: seen clips. I've never had the honor stay. It will
• 16:54
  Speaker 4: be my first live Katiekiden experience. What can I expect?
• 16:59
  Speaker 4: What do people expect from a Katie Cayden show.
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: Well, love is definitely going to be there, for sure.
• 17:06
  Speaker 3: You feel love and love is going to be all
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: around the room. And I even tell all the people
• 17:13
  Speaker 3: that come out just be gracious and kind to the
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: people next to you if somebody needs help, help them,
• 17:18
  Speaker 3: you know. And it's gonna be sexy period. Okay. And
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: my buddy Logan Matts, who is a phenomenal songwriter, is
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: going to be opening for me, not only opening and
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: playing with me for my set too. He was with
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: Lucas Nelson his band for many years and he's a songwriter,
• 17:38
  Speaker 3: so it's gonna be awesome. And I got Aretha Franklin's
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: backup singers.
• 17:43
  Speaker 2: What excuse, excuse?
• 17:48
  Speaker 3: Oh, I ain't kidding. I ain't kidding. Harmony and saxophone
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: and all of the things, and the band is are
• 17:59
  Speaker 3: all of my been with me when I couldn't pay
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: them and sometimes would help me out to pay for
• 18:05
  Speaker 3: recordings because they loved me. Are going to be playing
• 18:07
  Speaker 3: with me on that stage. So it's going to be
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: a lot.
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: That's that's really special and important. Like we need more
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: people that are pushing, Like if somebody needs help, why
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: don't you help them? Like it's sad that I almost
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: want to cry by her just saying.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: That, because there's so little of that.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: But before we let you go, you are a Chicago girl, right, Yes,
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: I'm I'm a Detroit girl.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Shout out to Aretha.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And like there's some fun stories that you get
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: to hear, like growing up where she grew up. But
• 18:37
  Speaker 1: what's the most Midwest or Chicago thing about you.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: I'm curious, probably my beautiful accent, especially when road rage happens.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Then I'm like, are you play bank kidding me? Get
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: out here?
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: You know, the drunker I get, the more my accent
• 18:55
  Speaker 2: comes out.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: I try not to have one, because, like you know,
• 18:57
  Speaker 1: we're on the air in multiple places.
• 18:59
  Speaker 2: But that long a you know, I can't escape it.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: And I used to be so like ashamed to be
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: from the Midwest, and now I'm like, it's kind of
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: a wonderful place.
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: Well, I now live in Nashville. The Midwest is the
• 19:11
  Speaker 3: heart of America. It is when you come. When I
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: come home, I'm like, okay, I'm home. And the food
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: is so good here too, right am I right? Yeah?
• 19:20
  Speaker 5: No, I didn't even think that.
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: And then once like I Chicago born and raised, and
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: then when I started going to other place, I was like, oh,
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: you don't have pizza like this, or oh you don't
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: have like sandwiches like this everywhere, Like it's a it's
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: a bit of a shock, like oh wait, I didn't
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: realize it was as good as I guess.
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: It is so good.
• 19:37
  Speaker 4: Yeah, we are spoilt here, Yeah we are sure we
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: have everything and convenience yeah too. Oh yeah, and everything
• 19:43
  Speaker 4: is closed before we get into your top five, because
• 19:45
  Speaker 4: we have to go through your top five things you're
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: obsessed with right now. I just have to know if
• 19:49
  Speaker 4: we were all going to go out to a karaoke night,
• 19:52
  Speaker 4: and this is like the crazy this is the most
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: like whatever question, but just you being you?
• 19:58
  Speaker 5: What song are you picking?
• 20:00
  Speaker 3: M Georgia because it creates just friends zone doing the
• 20:07
  Speaker 3: pit part right?
• 20:11
  Speaker 5: Oh my god.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: Now the fact that mine is asked by Big Sean
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: and I got an email that makes me feel really
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: good about myself.
• 20:20
  Speaker 2: But hey, what's yours?
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I don't know. My brain initially went to some atlantis.
• 20:25
  Speaker 4: I don't know why. Yeah, maybe I'm feeling kind of
• 20:27
  Speaker 4: angsty these days, so that might be.
• 20:29
  Speaker 3: Oh that's a whole other episode.
• 20:31
  Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, yeah, that's the episode with my therapist.
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: Later. Oh my gosh, when we saw her and shook
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: her hair for I think it was two minutes. She
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: was just whipping her hair around barefoot. I love I
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: love her.
• 20:44
  Speaker 5: That's everything.
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: Okay, so let's get into your top five are okay,
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: So one of them I kind of already spoiled, which
• 20:49
  Speaker 4: was mentoring or coaching aspiring musicians. So we know that
• 20:53
  Speaker 4: you do that and we love that and thank you so.
• 20:54
  Speaker 5: Much, which is awesome. If people want to get involved
• 20:57
  Speaker 5: in that, what do they just DM?
• 20:59
  Speaker 3: You or me on Instagram is the best way to
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: get a hold of me for sure.
• 21:04
  Speaker 4: So let's see your for your Your real first one
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: was Julia Cameron's The Artist's Way, So why are you
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: obsessed with that?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Okay? So I did it about six years ago and
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: I've decided to pick it up again. It's a fourteen
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: week course of just like tapping into your creative I
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: think a lot of times with creatives and not just singers,
• 21:23
  Speaker 3: any art you know applies here. When you tap into
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: you think like, oh I'm not feeling like I don't
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: have a muse or I'm not feeling inspired. But her
• 21:36
  Speaker 3: approach is that art is right there and all you
• 21:40
  Speaker 3: have to do is grab it. And so a lot
• 21:42
  Speaker 3: of times are brains like you were saying, go to
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: my therapist. Restarted therapy too. Yes, you know morning pages
• 21:51
  Speaker 3: you kind of like write and dump right all of
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: your thoughts so that you can get the jumble brain
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: away and that you can get on a creative level.
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: It's been just really really wonderful. I'm obsessed with it.
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: So now I've been sending it to all my artsy friends.
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: I'm like, you got fourteen weeks, you gotta do it
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: every single day, and I'm trust me, it's gonna like
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: break these blocks of creativity and so many Yeah, I'll
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: send you guys the link please for sure.
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: It's so interesting and I think, like I definitely no
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: consider myself a creative, but I genuinely do love what
• 22:23
  Speaker 4: I do and I'm passionate about it, and I just
• 22:26
  Speaker 4: find it so hard to always try to refocus right
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: and stay like wait, I actually do like this because
• 22:32
  Speaker 4: so many things get in your way, like everyone has
• 22:35
  Speaker 4: shitty days or stuff happens in your personal life that
• 22:38
  Speaker 4: just affects you, know, what you really.
• 22:39
  Speaker 5: Like to do in life, right, you know?
• 22:41
  Speaker 4: So I guess it's always good to have that sort
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: of reset and sort of refocus, like Okay, I do
• 22:48
  Speaker 4: like this is what I'm supposed to do, and like,
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: let's like get that back together.
• 22:51
  Speaker 5: It's like keep doing what you're we're put on this
• 22:54
  Speaker 5: earth to do, you know.
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: What I mean. And it's defeating sometimes right, Like I'm
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: in the right space, should I be doing this? What's that?
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: And it's kind of like realizing that the taking the
• 23:06
  Speaker 3: steps unknown aren't that scary. Yeah, you're reminding yourself of that.
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: That's why I'm obsessed with that.
• 23:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah, well you're looking to Julia Cameron. I'm looking to
• 23:14
  Speaker 4: Katie Kta like I need please, like you know, mentoring coaching.
• 23:19
  Speaker 5: I know I can't sing, but give me some life
• 23:21
  Speaker 5: advice or something.
• 23:22
  Speaker 3: I got you, baby.
• 23:25
  Speaker 5: So you're binge watching the Testaments on Netflix? What's that?
• 23:28
  Speaker 5: I don't watch anything, so tell.
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: Me what it was. Have you watched The handmaids Tale?
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: No I read any of that.
• 23:35
  Speaker 2: I haven't, but I know the premise.
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I heard It was very stress inducing and also similar
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: to maybe like what the times look like right now,
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: so I avoided it.
• 23:45
  Speaker 3: It's stressful and horrible, but it's so good.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 23:48
  Speaker 3: So this is like the spin off of what Happens
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: to oh like Happened After whatever. I can't spoil it
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: for anybody, Okay, it's just I'm obsessed.
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: With Is it a period piece?
• 23:58
  Speaker 3: It's a period No, not really. It feels like a
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: period go back in the day and ladies are all
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: in dresses and all that kind It's so good.
• 24:09
  Speaker 5: We love ladies and dresses.
• 24:13
  Speaker 4: Joni Mitchell's Blue album like come on, like, come on,
• 24:18
  Speaker 4: come on. But I just feel like you and Joni
• 24:22
  Speaker 4: are like, I don't know, just like Kindred Spirits, So like,
• 24:25
  Speaker 4: why did you pick that album?
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: You know, from my teaching too, I'm teaching a lot
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: about phrasing. So when a singer sings, they just sometimes
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: they just sing, and I'm like, you have to listen
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: to how singer's phrase. When Joni Mitchell tells a story
• 24:43
  Speaker 3: in her songs, it's not just a melody. It's also
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: like she's singing but speaking at the same time, and
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: she's telling this story, and where she takes a breath
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: is important, where usually it's like I sing a phrase,
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: I take a breath, I sing a phrase, I take
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: a breath. She'll sing a phrase and keep on going
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: and take a breath where you're not supposed tom and
• 25:04
  Speaker 3: yet it's mixed the song. That's the magic behind the music,
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: like those minute things, or when she gets a little
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: bit louder, a little bit softer, and I'm just like
• 25:15
  Speaker 3: it's all over her album and I've just been listening
• 25:18
  Speaker 3: to it over and over and I'm like I've been obsessed.
• 25:21
  Speaker 3: I kind of obsess over albums sometimes or bringing back
• 25:24
  Speaker 3: that I love, Like before that was Miseducation La. She
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: comes back every year though.
• 25:30
  Speaker 4: I mean clean those are like some of the best,
• 25:34
  Speaker 4: you know, the best albums of all time.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Like that's insane that for a reason.
• 25:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and I love that too. I love I'm a
• 25:45
  Speaker 4: huge like singer songwriter, like female Stan obviously, like I
• 25:49
  Speaker 4: like whatever. We did a study on the Morning Show
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: where it's like, oh, guys, listen and Christa hears me
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: use this analogy all the time, but like, guys listen
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: to the music for you know, beats and music or whatever,
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: but we listen for the lyrics. But you have to
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: have a lyric that like captures me in order for
• 26:03
  Speaker 4: me to be able to like, you know, really get
• 26:05
  Speaker 4: into it. I'm not just there like raving to eat
• 26:08
  Speaker 4: it up, you know, like I need to be drawn in.
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: And I think that's something that you really do really well.
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: It is like the way you deliver and you have
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: meaning with what you're saying and it's authentic and like
• 26:18
  Speaker 4: that's just why I'm.
• 26:19
  Speaker 5: Obsessed with you.
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: Wait side questions, like he's not just saying this because
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: I know when people do interviews, like they both smoke sometimes,
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: like he told me about you years ago, so this
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: is actually true.
• 26:33
  Speaker 2: He actually was like.
• 26:34
  Speaker 1: Trying to demand our boss play you follows you, So
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: he follows.
• 26:40
  Speaker 4: Yeah, finally came out after the voice like your original song.
• 26:43
  Speaker 4: I like ran downstairs to our bosses.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: You have to listen to you have to listen. It's
• 26:47
  Speaker 5: very obsessed, like obsessed.
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: So I was in this building spreading the good news promise, spread.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: The good words.
• 26:56
  Speaker 5: Much.
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: I appreciate.
• 26:57
  Speaker 4: That means actually, you're just so freaking like talent, and
• 27:00
  Speaker 4: that's what I like tell calein all the time. It's like, hey,
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: how am I from Chicago? And I did I haven't
• 27:04
  Speaker 4: seen you live prior to the voice, Like come on,
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: like where have I been? But like you're so just
• 27:08
  Speaker 4: amazingly telling these people that are out there, and I'm like,
• 27:10
  Speaker 4: oh my god, Like you just deserve everything.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: Sorry you do you really do?
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: No.
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: I just like was curious because I'm I cannot sing
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: a lick, but I love good songwriters, and for me,
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: I look for a couple of things like either you
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: can like paint a picture so much so that I
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: can see it. I can literally see it or I
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: can go how the hell can they describe my feelings
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: better than I can? You know, like you're in my head.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: Are there some that come to mind that are your
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: favorite songwriters? Or what do you what do you attach
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: yourself to when you're listening to music?
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I guess I think the character of a song. Excuse me,
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: I think, you know, like even in teaching a lot,
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: it brings me back to myself because if I'm teaching it,
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: I have to live it, right, Like when we listen
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: to a song and the lyrics are cool, and you'll
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: find those lyrics that like grab onto you like that?
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: That was for me looking at the story of this song. Okay,
• 28:07
  Speaker 3: not just the lyrics and what they mean, but like,
• 28:10
  Speaker 3: what do they mean to me if I had lived
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: this experience? A good example Joni Mitchell River. You know
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: there's that line that says he loved me so naughty,
• 28:24
  Speaker 3: he made me weak in the knees. That's the sensual
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: sweet part, and you can kind of even though it's
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: sad song, like I wish I had a River, I
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: could just get away from it, all right, But the
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: idea of like, okay, I remember that passion in that
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: connection and I have that inner smile on my face
• 28:41
  Speaker 3: when people sing it. I say, smile, but don't just
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: smile on her face, smile from your heart and heart
• 28:47
  Speaker 3: it because then you're like, oh, it's not all sad.
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: It's like, even though it's gone, the memory is still
• 28:54
  Speaker 3: bring you joy. Yeah, and that's that's that's hope for
• 28:58
  Speaker 3: the future, for the next.
• 29:00
  Speaker 2: I didn't realize that not everyone got chills when they
• 29:03
  Speaker 2: heard a line or a song that affected them, but
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: like I always get goosebumps from it, which I think
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: is why I'm so obsessed with music. I love it,
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: oh yeah, yeah.
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: Or like the song will like literally mate, like yesterday
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: was just in a mood and a lie that the
• 29:17
  Speaker 4: perfect line will hit you at the perfect time. I
• 29:20
  Speaker 4: just like burst out into tears, like because like it's
• 29:22
  Speaker 4: just you know, I don't know music.
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: It's so powerful and absolutely why do we love alanis
• 29:28
  Speaker 3: like I remember I was at a friend's house cooking something,
• 29:31
  Speaker 3: or she's like, I gotta run the store. Her husband
• 29:34
  Speaker 3: comes home and listen to oh which one? What's the
• 29:39
  Speaker 3: one that she gets pissed off with the Joey I hate.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: To bug you in the middle of dinner you want
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: to know it.
• 29:47
  Speaker 3: And he's like, oh god, I thought my wife was
• 29:50
  Speaker 3: home and she's mad at me, because every time she's
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: mad at me, she puts Alanis Moore set on and
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I'm freaked out, Like what did I do?
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: That's a real story, by the way, like he was
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: on I Think Watch what Happens Live and he said
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: he was literally having dinner at Bob Zagat's house and
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: she called and he was like, we're having dinner.
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: And I just love that. That was real.
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: We got to go out with Uncle Joey one night
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: and I got a little tipsy and I was so close.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: To singing you on a note to him. I'm like,
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: it's time to get me out of the bar, like.
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: I would have been so funny.
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, my intrusive thoughts were like.
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: That means to do it, I know.
• 30:25
  Speaker 2: And by the way, they usually win. But last night
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: I was a good, good girl. I behave myself. I
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: was good girl. I can speak. I speak for a
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: living as fear.
• 30:32
  Speaker 5: Oh my god, you wouldn't know it from speaking.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: That's so true.
• 30:40
  Speaker 4: Your last thing on your legs watching reels of cute
• 30:42
  Speaker 4: babies on Instagram.
• 30:43
  Speaker 5: That is not my for you page. But I love
• 30:46
  Speaker 5: that that's yours.
• 30:47
  Speaker 3: I love a little babis so cute. I don't have any,
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: but it's so cute to look at little cute cheeks
• 30:54
  Speaker 3: on the feet, the feet, oh, the rolls. Even skinny
• 30:58
  Speaker 3: little bird babies are kind of cute too. Oh all
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: the all the babies are cute babies.
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Same do you love? Okay, he doesn't get what I
• 31:06
  Speaker 2: mean when.
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: I say this, Just like the whiff of a fresh
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: baby's head, does that do anything for you?
• 31:12
  Speaker 5: I never smell babies.
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: You got it?
• 31:16
  Speaker 2: Take a hit of that you got? I'm not just
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: like a little no you go.
• 31:21
  Speaker 4: I don't know your will be something?
• 31:31
  Speaker 3: Yeah, left of mind? Right right?
• 31:37
  Speaker 2: Did we get a cry, crash out or hate?
• 31:39
  Speaker 5: Oh no?
• 31:40
  Speaker 4: Do you want to talk about something that you that
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: maybe something not just off the dome that you I
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: don't like. I don't think I asked this, So this
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: might this might be my father, something that's just pissing
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: you off right now that you hate in.
• 31:52
  Speaker 3: Like traffic okay, okay, yeah, hay traffic and Ashphilt's where
• 31:57
  Speaker 3: Chicago's a dream compared to what I put putts in
• 32:03
  Speaker 3: people right side lane through ten miles before they need
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: to and then or putt putts in the left lane. Oh,
• 32:13
  Speaker 3: that's my trigger. They don't understand. They don't understand people.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: I flash you and let you know before. Yeah, my
• 32:21
  Speaker 3: aggression comes out. I mean, I know I could be sweet,
• 32:23
  Speaker 3: but on the road I am a totally different woman, the.
• 32:26
  Speaker 1: Same I'm mother asking everyone. Yeah, the left lane is
• 32:29
  Speaker 1: my trigger, like my personal trigger. I like, if you
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: don't know how to use the left lane.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: Like, I'm thank you.
• 32:34
  Speaker 2: It's very upsetting.
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: If I'm going eighty in the left lane, I'm like,
• 32:38
  Speaker 4: I'm already going fifteen miles over the speed limit.
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: So if you want to ride my ass, just go
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: ahead and ride it.
• 32:42
  Speaker 3: Baby.
• 32:43
  Speaker 5: Oh okay, So I'm probably the person that you guys are.
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know. It's really upsetting.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: We did a road trip to Detroit to see Taylor
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: Swift for the third time on therera Is tour because
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: we're absolutely insane.
• 32:57
  Speaker 2: Yeah we're nuts.
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: And I drove part of the way, but we're running late,
• 33:00
  Speaker 1: so I had to do my makeup. So we switched
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and he looked at me and he goes, just so
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: you know, I do the speed limit and I was like.
• 33:04
  Speaker 2: Oh shit, I should get back in the drive.
• 33:07
  Speaker 1: We're getting there, right, We're never going to get there,
• 33:11
  Speaker 1: but we did.
• 33:11
  Speaker 5: Oh my god. Yeah.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: Traffic is my I try the probably the thing I
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: try the hardest at in life is to get to
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: work and leave work before the traffic. So true, and
• 33:22
  Speaker 4: it just it pisses me off so that you are
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: so real for that. So Katie, thank you so much
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: for sitting with us like this is a dream. You
• 33:30
  Speaker 4: are immensely talented. We are so lucky to have you
• 33:34
  Speaker 4: here Lincoln Hall this Saturday. You can still get tickets
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: at the Lincoln Hall box office. And then what else
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: is to come in twenty twenty six?
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: New music? Okay, okay, hell yeah.
• 33:46
  Speaker 5: Hey what are the vibes? Can you give us.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: All of the feelings and but like hope, oh yeah
• 33:52
  Speaker 3: we need it, need that.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Where can they find you on Instagram?
• 33:57
  Speaker 3: Katie Kaden Official on Instagram and Katie ca Eiding none
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: all of the other. And She'll sing to you on
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: Tuesdays and Tuesdays take a break. Tuesdays I will sing
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: to you, except this Tuesday I couldn't pick up merchant.
• 34:11
  Speaker 2: We can take a break.
• 34:13
  Speaker 3: I can't take a break this.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: Do you know what that's you need some. That's a
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: great way to end that. Oh my god, Katie, thank
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: you so much.
• 34:22
  Speaker 5: You're amazing. Thank you, thank you.