Tonight’s Conversation Blueprint & Podcast Monetization | Ace Metaphor x David Shands
At Podcast Summit 2025, Ace Metaphor sits down for a fireside chat with David Shands to reveal the raw truth about touring, collaborations, and building an ecosystem around your brand.
From the hidden costs of live events to creating multiple revenue streams beyond ticket sales, Ace breaks down how he scaled Tonight’s Conversation into a powerful movement.
🔥 What you’ll learn in this chat:
The real costs of touring (and how to actually make money)
Why collaborations can hurt if you’re not prepared
How to build an ecosystem that prints opportunities (events → apps → products)
Why filming…
The skinny
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