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Saying No Without Guilt: Boundaries That Work · Getting to Good Enough

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  Hey,
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  there.
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  Welcome
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  to
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  getting
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  to
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  Good
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  Enough.
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  I'm
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  Shannon
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  Wilkinson.
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  And
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  I'm
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  Janine
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  Adams.
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  We're
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  here
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  for
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  practical
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  and
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  fun
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  conversations
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  about
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  living
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  with
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  more
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  ease
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  and
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  way
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  less
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  stress.
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  Yep.
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  We're
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  all
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  about
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  embracing
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  progress
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  over
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  perfection.
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  So
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  grab
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  a
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  tasty
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  beverage
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  and
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  let's
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  get
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  started.
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  Hey,
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  Janine.
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  Hey,
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  Shannon.
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  How
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  you
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  doing?
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  I'm
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  doing
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  pretty
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  well
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  this
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  morning.
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  How
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  are
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  you?
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  I'm
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  doing
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  just
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  fine.
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  Can't
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  complain,
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  really.
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  So
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  that's
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  good.
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  Are
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  you
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  sure?
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  Well,
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  there's
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  always
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  something,
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  but
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  yes,
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  I'm
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  sure.
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  I'm
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  not
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  going
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  to
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  complain,
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  so
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  I
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  won't
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  complain.
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  Not
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  I
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  can't
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  complain.
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  Right.
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  That's
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  funny.
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  As
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  you
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  know,
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  it's
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  been
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  a
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  little
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  bit
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  of
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  a
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  complicated
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  period
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  for
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  me,
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  you
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  know,
• 1:02
  starting
• 1:02
  this
• 1:03
  podcast,
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  which
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  is,
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  you
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  know,
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  sort
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  of
• 1:05
  a
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  new
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  amount
• 1:09
  of
• 1:09
  work,
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  which
• 1:11
  I'm
• 1:11
  loving,
• 1:12
  but,
• 1:12
  you
• 1:12
  know,
• 1:12
  just
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  sort
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  of
• 1:13
  adding
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  into
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  this
• 1:14
  stuff.
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  And
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  I'm
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  having
• 1:17
  shoulder
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  surgery
• 1:19
  in
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  a
• 1:19
  week,
• 1:20
  so
• 1:20
  I'm
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  preparing
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  to
• 1:22
  be
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  on
• 1:23
  the
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  couch
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  for
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  two
• 1:24
  weeks
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  and
• 1:24
  then
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  one
• 1:27
  armed
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  for,
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  you
• 1:29
  know,
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  another
• 1:30
  month
• 1:30
  after
• 1:31
  that.
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  And.
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  And
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  then
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  a
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  bunch
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  of
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  other
• 1:37
  things
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  happened.
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  My
• 1:38
  nephew's
• 1:39
  wedding.
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  I
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  went
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  to
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  Visit
• 1:41
  my
• 1:42
  beloved
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  96
• 1:43
  year
• 1:44
  old
• 1:44
  aunt,
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  which
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  I
• 1:46
  feel
• 1:46
  like
• 1:46
  I
• 1:46
  have
• 1:46
  to
• 1:46
  do
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  as
• 1:47
  often
• 1:47
  as
• 1:47
  possible.
• 1:49
  I
• 1:50
  had
• 1:50
  a
• 1:50
  conference
• 1:50
  to
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  go
• 1:51
  to,
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  and
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  so
• 1:53
  it's
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  made
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  it
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  really
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  complicated
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  the
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  last
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  few
• 1:58
  weeks,
• 1:58
  trying
• 1:58
  to
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  get
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  everything
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  done
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  I
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  need
• 2:01
  to
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  get
• 2:01
  done
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  before
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  surgery
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  day.
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  And
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  I've
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  had
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  to
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  say
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  no
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  to
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  a
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  lot
• 2:08
  of
• 2:08
  stuff
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  that
• 2:08
  I
• 2:09
  didn't
• 2:09
  really
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  want
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  to
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  say
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  no
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  to,
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  but
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  felt
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  like
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  I
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  had
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  to?
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  Yeah,
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  that's.
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  That's
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  tough.
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  Did
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  you
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  have
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  the
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  opportunity
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  to
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  say
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  no
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  to
• 2:19
  stuff
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  that
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  you
• 2:20
  did
• 2:21
  want
• 2:21
  to
• 2:21
  say
• 2:21
  no
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  to
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  and
• 2:22
  felt
• 2:22
  like,
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  oh,
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  good,
• 2:23
  I
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  have
• 2:23
  a
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  perfect
• 2:24
  excuse.
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  No,
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  I
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  wish
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  there
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  would
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  have
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  been
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  some
• 2:28
  of
• 2:28
  that.
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  Yeah.
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  Yeah.
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  And
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  so
• 2:33
  when
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  you
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  said
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  no,
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  was
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  it
• 2:35
  a
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  simple
• 2:36
  no
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  or
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  was
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  it
• 2:37
  a
• 2:37
  well,
• 2:38
  I'm
• 2:38
  having
• 2:38
  surgery
• 2:38
  wish
• 2:39
  I
• 2:39
  could
• 2:39
  kind
• 2:39
  of
• 2:40
  know?
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  Well,
• 2:41
  it
• 2:41
  sort
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  of
• 2:41
  depended
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  on
• 2:42
  the
• 2:42
  situation.
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  I've
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  been
• 2:44
  trying
• 2:44
  to
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  get
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  better
• 2:46
  at
• 2:47
  letting
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  no
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  be
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  a
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  full
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  sentence
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  and
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  not
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  feeling
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  compelled
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  to
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  give
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  long,
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  complicated
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  answers
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  to
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  people
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  that
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  they
• 2:58
  don't
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  care
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  about.
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  Although
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  I
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  have
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  used
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  the
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  upcoming
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  surgery
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  as
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  a
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  little
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  bit
• 3:04
  of
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  a
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  lever,
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  too,
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  to
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  help
• 3:07
  people
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  understand
• 3:08
  why
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  I'm
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  saying
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  no.
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  Yeah,
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  yeah.
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  I
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  remember,
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  gosh,
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  when
• 3:14
  I
• 3:14
  was
• 3:14
  right
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  out
• 3:15
  of
• 3:15
  college,
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  I
• 3:15
  read
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  Miss
• 3:16
  Manners
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  Guide
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  to
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  Can't
• 3:18
  remember
• 3:18
  the
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  full
• 3:19
  title,
• 3:19
  but
• 3:19
  Miss
• 3:20
  Manners
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  had
• 3:20
  that
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  big,
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  thick
• 3:21
  book.
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  And
• 3:21
  I
• 3:21
  read.
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  Yeah,
• 3:22
  because
• 3:24
  like,
• 3:24
  you
• 3:24
  read
• 3:24
  it
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  like
• 3:25
  a
• 3:25
  book,
• 3:25
  like,
• 3:25
  cover
• 3:26
  to
• 3:26
  cover
• 3:26
  or
• 3:26
  like,
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  you
• 3:27
  just
• 3:27
  Periodically
• 3:28
  would
• 3:29
  pick
• 3:29
  it
• 3:29
  up
• 3:29
  and.
• 3:30
  No,
• 3:30
  no.
• 3:31
  I
• 3:31
  read
• 3:31
  it
• 3:31
  cover
• 3:31
  to
• 3:32
  cover,
• 3:32
  front
• 3:32
  to
• 3:32
  back.
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  Yeah.
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  And
• 3:34
  I
• 3:34
  learned
• 3:35
  a
• 3:35
  few
• 3:35
  things.
• 3:35
  I
• 3:35
  love
• 3:35
  that
• 3:36
  because,
• 3:36
  you
• 3:36
  know,
• 3:36
  I
• 3:37
  was
• 3:37
  brought
• 3:37
  up
• 3:37
  in
• 3:37
  a
• 3:37
  barn,
• 3:38
  so
• 3:38
  I
• 3:38
  needed
• 3:38
  to
• 3:38
  learn
• 3:39
  some
• 3:40
  things.
• 3:40
  I
• 3:40
  was
• 3:40
  not.
• 3:41
  I
• 3:41
  had
• 3:41
  a
• 3:41
  very
• 3:41
  civilized
• 3:42
  home,
• 3:42
  but
• 3:42
  we
• 3:43
  weren't
• 3:43
  big
• 3:43
  on
• 3:44
  rules
• 3:44
  of
• 3:44
  manners.
• 3:45
  And
• 3:46
  so
• 3:47
  one
• 3:47
  of
• 3:47
  the
• 3:47
  things
• 3:48
  that
• 3:48
  I
• 3:48
  took
• 3:48
  with
• 3:48
  me
• 3:49
  all
• 3:49
  these
• 3:49
  years
• 3:49
  later
• 3:50
  is
• 3:50
  that
• 3:50
  you
• 3:51
  never
• 3:51
  have
• 3:51
  to
• 3:51
  give
• 3:51
  a
• 3:51
  reason
• 3:52
  to
• 3:52
  decline
• 3:52
  an
• 3:52
  invitation.
• 3:53
  Just
• 3:53
  if
• 3:53
  somebody
• 3:54
  says,
• 3:54
  would
• 3:55
  you
• 3:55
  like
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  come
• 3:55
  to
• 3:55
  dinner
• 3:57
  on
• 3:57
  two
• 3:57
  weeks
• 3:58
  from
• 3:58
  Friday?
• 3:58
  You
• 3:58
  can
• 3:59
  say,
• 3:59
  oh,
• 3:59
  no,
• 4:00
  thanks,
• 4:00
  or,
• 4:00
  no,
• 4:01
  I
• 4:01
  can't.
• 4:02
  And
• 4:02
  that's
• 4:02
  all.
• 4:03
  And
• 4:03
  that
• 4:03
  was
• 4:03
  very
• 4:04
  freeing
• 4:04
  to
• 4:04
  me.
• 4:05
  So
• 4:05
  in
• 4:05
  that
• 4:06
  sense,
• 4:06
  no
• 4:06
  is.
• 4:07
  Can
• 4:07
  really
• 4:07
  be.
• 4:07
  So
• 4:08
  you've
• 4:08
  had
• 4:08
  that
• 4:08
  on
• 4:09
  board
• 4:09
  for
• 4:10
  quite
• 4:11
  some
• 4:11
  time.
• 4:11
  That's
• 4:12
  amazing.
• 4:13
  Yeah.
• 4:13
  Yeah.
• 4:14
  Oh,
• 4:14
  my
• 4:14
  gosh.
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  wish
• 4:15
  I
• 4:15
  would
• 4:15
  have
• 4:15
  known
• 4:16
  that.
• 4:17
  Oh,
• 4:17
  shoot.
• 4:18
  Sorry,
• 4:18
  Shannon.
• 4:19
  I
• 4:19
  should
• 4:19
  have
• 4:19
  shared
• 4:19
  that
• 4:20
  with
• 4:20
  you
• 4:20
  25
• 4:20
  years
• 4:21
  ago
• 4:21
  when
• 4:21
  we
• 4:21
  met.
• 4:22
  Yeah.
• 4:24
  Welcome
• 4:24
  to
• 4:25
  St.
• 4:25
  Louis.
• 4:26
  No
• 4:26
  is
• 4:26
  a
• 4:26
  full
• 4:27
  sentence.
• 4:29
  Right.
• 4:30
  That's
• 4:30
  funny.
• 4:32
  But
• 4:32
  I,
• 4:33
  you
• 4:33
  know,
• 4:35
  I
• 4:35
  have
• 4:36
  had
• 4:36
  as
• 4:36
  my
• 4:36
  top
• 4:37
  goal,
• 4:38
  as
• 4:39
  you
• 4:39
  know,
• 4:39
  I
• 4:39
  like
• 4:39
  to
• 4:40
  set
• 4:40
  goals
• 4:40
  every
• 4:40
  year
• 4:41
  and
• 4:41
  has
• 4:42
  my
• 4:42
  top
• 4:42
  goal
• 4:42
  for
• 4:42
  at
• 4:43
  least
• 4:43
  the
• 4:43
  last
• 4:43
  two
• 4:43
  years,
• 4:43
  I
• 4:44
  think
• 4:44
  longer
• 4:45
  to
• 4:45
  do
• 4:45
  more
• 4:46
  things
• 4:46
  I
• 4:46
  want
• 4:46
  to
• 4:47
  do
• 4:47
  and
• 4:47
  fewer
• 4:47
  things
• 4:47
  I
• 4:48
  don't
• 4:48
  want
• 4:48
  to
• 4:48
  do.
• 4:49
  And
• 4:50
  that
• 4:50
  goal
• 4:50
  has
• 4:51
  led
• 4:51
  me
• 4:52
  really
• 4:52
  well
• 4:53
  into
• 4:53
  saying
• 4:53
  no.
• 4:54
  And
• 4:55
  I
• 4:56
  just
• 4:56
  go
• 4:56
  right
• 4:56
  back
• 4:56
  to
• 4:56
  it
• 4:57
  when
• 4:57
  I'm
• 4:57
  not
• 4:57
  sure
• 4:58
  about
• 4:58
  something,
• 4:59
  and
• 4:59
  if
• 4:59
  I
• 4:59
  don't
• 5:00
  want
• 5:00
  to
• 5:00
  do
• 5:00
  it,
• 5:02
  I
• 5:02
  just
• 5:02
  say
• 5:03
  no.
• 5:03
  And,
• 5:04
  you
• 5:04
  know,
• 5:04
  I
• 5:04
  had
• 5:05
  a
• 5:05
  lot
• 5:05
  going
• 5:05
  on,
• 5:05
  so
• 5:06
  people
• 5:06
  understood.
• 5:07
  I
• 5:07
  didn't
• 5:07
  usually.
• 5:08
  But
• 5:08
  I
• 5:08
  didn't
• 5:08
  usually
• 5:09
  say,
• 5:09
  oh,
• 5:09
  well,
• 5:09
  my
• 5:10
  husband
• 5:10
  just
• 5:10
  had
• 5:10
  a
• 5:10
  transplant
• 5:11
  and
• 5:11
  I'm
• 5:11
  really
• 5:11
  busy.
• 5:12
  But
• 5:14
  sometimes
• 5:14
  I'll
• 5:14
  say
• 5:15
  I
• 5:15
  stopped
• 5:16
  doing
• 5:16
  volunteer
• 5:17
  commitments.
• 5:18
  Yeah.
• 5:19
  Leave
• 5:19
  it
• 5:19
  at
• 5:19
  that.
• 5:20
  Fairly
• 5:21
  often,
• 5:21
  actually.
• 5:25
  I
• 5:25
  love
• 5:25
  that.
• 5:25
  And
• 5:25
  it
• 5:26
  is.
• 5:26
  It's
• 5:26
  so.
• 5:27
  So
• 5:28
  simple.
• 5:28
  And
• 5:29
  it's
• 5:29
  sort
• 5:29
  of
• 5:29
  funny
• 5:30
  on.
• 5:31
  On
• 5:31
  the
• 5:31
  receiving
• 5:32
  side
• 5:32
  of.
• 5:34
  Can
• 5:34
  sometimes
• 5:34
  feel
• 5:35
  like
• 5:35
  if
• 5:35
  someone
• 5:35
  gives
• 5:36
  you
• 5:36
  a
• 5:36
  whole,
• 5:37
  you
• 5:37
  know,
• 5:37
  long
• 5:38
  reason
• 5:38
  why
• 5:39
  they
• 5:39
  can't
• 5:39
  do
• 5:39
  something,
• 5:40
  that
• 5:42
  it
• 5:43
  seems
• 5:43
  less
• 5:44
  true
• 5:45
  somehow.
• 5:45
  Like.
• 5:46
  Right.
• 5:48
  Like
• 5:48
  they're
• 5:49
  spinning
• 5:49
  a
• 5:49
  story.
• 5:49
  Well,
• 5:50
  they
• 5:50
  always
• 5:50
  say
• 5:50
  they.
• 5:51
  That
• 5:52
  if
• 5:52
  you
• 5:52
  want
• 5:53
  to
• 5:53
  lie,
• 5:53
  well,
• 5:53
  make
• 5:54
  it
• 5:54
  really
• 5:54
  specific,
• 5:55
  make
• 5:55
  it
• 5:55
  really
• 5:55
  detailed.
• 5:56
  I've
• 5:56
  read
• 5:56
  that.
• 5:57
  Well,
• 5:58
  sort
• 5:58
  of.
• 5:59
  Well,
• 6:00
  it's.
• 6:00
  Whatever
• 6:00
  you
• 6:01
  have
• 6:01
  to
• 6:01
  remember.
• 6:02
  Well,
• 6:03
  yeah,
• 6:03
  that's
• 6:03
  true.
• 6:03
  But
• 6:04
  like
• 6:04
  the.
• 6:04
  The.
• 6:04
  In
• 6:04
  the
• 6:05
  books,
• 6:05
  the.
• 6:05
  The
• 6:05
  bad.
• 6:06
  The
• 6:06
  bad
• 6:06
  guys
• 6:07
  who
• 6:07
  are
• 6:07
  liars.
• 6:08
  Oh,
• 6:08
  yeah.
• 6:09
  They.
• 6:09
  They
• 6:09
  make
• 6:09
  it
• 6:09
  specific.
• 6:10
  Or
• 6:10
  the
• 6:11
  good
• 6:11
  guys
• 6:11
  who
• 6:11
  are
• 6:11
  detectives
• 6:12
  will
• 6:12
  say,
• 6:12
  oh,
• 6:12
  that
• 6:13
  was
• 6:13
  so
• 6:13
  specific.
• 6:13
  He
• 6:14
  must
• 6:14
  be
• 6:14
  lying
• 6:16
  and
• 6:16
  live
• 6:16
  a
• 6:16
  rich
• 6:16
  fantasy
• 6:17
  life.
• 6:18
  You
• 6:18
  do.
• 6:19
  I
• 6:20
  don't
• 6:20
  know
• 6:20
  what
• 6:20
  any
• 6:21
  of
• 6:21
  that
• 6:21
  has
• 6:21
  to
• 6:21
  do
• 6:22
  with
• 6:22
  anything.
• 6:23
  I
• 6:23
  know.
• 6:24
  Yeah,
• 6:24
  that's
• 6:24
  a
• 6:25
  good
• 6:25
  point.
• 6:27
  Well,
• 6:27
  yeah,
• 6:28
  but
• 6:30
  to
• 6:30
  the
• 6:30
  original
• 6:31
  point
• 6:34
  that,
• 6:36
  like
• 6:36
  the,
• 6:36
  the.
• 6:37
  The
• 6:37
  more
• 6:38
  you
• 6:38
  kind
• 6:38
  of
• 6:38
  add
• 6:39
  into
• 6:39
  the
• 6:39
  story,
• 6:40
  the
• 6:40
  more
• 6:40
  as
• 6:40
  the
• 6:41
  receiver
• 6:41
  can
• 6:41
  feel
• 6:42
  like
• 6:43
  this
• 6:43
  seems
• 6:44
  like
• 6:44
  a
• 6:44
  whole
• 6:45
  long
• 6:45
  complicated
• 6:46
  story
• 6:47
  to
• 6:47
  say
• 6:47
  no.
• 6:49
  Like,
• 6:50
  it
• 6:50
  almost
• 6:51
  makes
• 6:51
  me
• 6:51
  feel
• 6:52
  like
• 6:52
  if
• 6:52
  someone
• 6:52
  were
• 6:53
  doing
• 6:53
  that,
• 6:53
  that
• 6:53
  there
• 6:53
  were
• 6:54
  wiggle
• 6:54
  room
• 6:55
  and
• 6:55
  that
• 6:56
  I
• 6:56
  could
• 6:56
  maybe
• 6:57
  convince
• 6:57
  them
• 6:57
  otherwise.
• 7:00
  Yeah.
• 7:01
  Like
• 7:01
  if
• 7:01
  it's
• 7:01
  not
• 7:02
  just
• 7:02
  no.
• 7:03
  And
• 7:03
  that's
• 7:04
  another
• 7:04
  good
• 7:04
  point
• 7:05
  is
• 7:05
  if
• 7:05
  you
• 7:05
  just
• 7:06
  say
• 7:06
  no,
• 7:06
  there's
• 7:07
  nothing
• 7:07
  anyone
• 7:08
  can
• 7:08
  argue
• 7:09
  with
• 7:09
  you
• 7:09
  about.
• 7:10
  They
• 7:10
  can't
• 7:10
  say,
• 7:11
  well,
• 7:11
  yes,
• 7:13
  but
• 7:13
  if
• 7:13
  you
• 7:13
  say,
• 7:14
  oh,
• 7:14
  no,
• 7:14
  I
• 7:14
  can't
• 7:15
  because
• 7:16
  I'm
• 7:16
  really
• 7:16
  busy,
• 7:18
  then
• 7:18
  they'd
• 7:18
  be
• 7:18
  like,
• 7:18
  oh,
• 7:19
  really?
• 7:19
  How
• 7:19
  busy
• 7:20
  are
• 7:20
  you?
• 7:20
  Like,
• 7:21
  are
• 7:21
  you
• 7:21
  sure
• 7:21
  you
• 7:21
  don't
• 7:22
  have
• 7:22
  time
• 7:22
  to,
• 7:23
  you
• 7:23
  know,
• 7:23
  this
• 7:23
  is
• 7:24
  not
• 7:24
  going
• 7:24
  to
• 7:24
  take
• 7:24
  much
• 7:25
  time
• 7:25
  or,
• 7:25
  you
• 7:26
  know,
• 7:26
  whatever
• 7:26
  your
• 7:27
  excuse
• 7:27
  is.
• 7:28
  Yeah.
• 7:29
  Or
• 7:29
  I
• 7:29
  can't
• 7:29
  come
• 7:30
  because
• 7:30
  my
• 7:30
  friend's
• 7:31
  eating
• 7:31
  from
• 7:31
  out
• 7:31
  of
• 7:32
  town.
• 7:32
  Well,
• 7:32
  your
• 7:32
  friend
• 7:33
  can
• 7:33
  come
• 7:34
  or.
• 7:34
  Yeah,
• 7:35
  yeah,
• 7:36
  yeah,
• 7:36
  that's
• 7:36
  true.
• 7:37
  It
• 7:37
  makes
• 7:37
  me
• 7:38
  realize
• 7:38
  that
• 7:38
  probably
• 7:39
  because
• 7:39
  of
• 7:39
  my
• 7:40
  short,
• 7:41
  I've
• 7:41
  gotten
• 7:41
  so
• 7:42
  good
• 7:42
  at
• 7:42
  it.
• 7:42
  I
• 7:42
  guess
• 7:43
  nobody
• 7:43
  argues
• 7:43
  with
• 7:44
  me.
• 7:44
  I
• 7:45
  mean,
• 7:45
  like,
• 7:46
  you
• 7:46
  just
• 7:46
  say
• 7:46
  no.
• 7:47
  No,
• 7:47
  thank
• 7:48
  you.
• 7:49
  Thank
• 7:49
  you.
• 7:49
  It's
• 7:50
  true.
• 7:50
  It
• 7:51
  works.
• 7:53
  But
• 7:54
  maybe
• 7:54
  we
• 7:54
  should
• 7:55
  talk
• 7:55
  a
• 7:55
  moment
• 7:55
  about
• 7:56
  why
• 7:56
  it's
• 7:56
  important
• 7:56
  to
• 7:57
  say
• 7:57
  no.
• 7:57
  Like,
• 7:58
  I
• 7:58
  mean,
• 7:58
  it's
• 7:59
  also
• 7:59
  great
• 8:00
  to
• 8:00
  say
• 8:00
  yes
• 8:00
  to
• 8:01
  things
• 8:01
  that
• 8:02
  are
• 8:02
  important
• 8:02
  to
• 8:02
  you,
• 8:03
  but
• 8:04
  if
• 8:04
  you.
• 8:04
  But
• 8:05
  being
• 8:05
  able
• 8:05
  to
• 8:05
  evaluate
• 8:06
  whether
• 8:07
  something
• 8:07
  is
• 8:07
  a
• 8:07
  yes
• 8:08
  or
• 8:08
  a
• 8:08
  no
• 8:09
  and
• 8:09
  then
• 8:09
  going
• 8:09
  with
• 8:10
  the
• 8:10
  no
• 8:10
  if
• 8:10
  it
• 8:10
  is,
• 8:11
  is
• 8:12
  a
• 8:12
  skill
• 8:13
  to
• 8:13
  have.
• 8:14
  Yeah,
• 8:14
  and
• 8:15
  that's
• 8:15
  a
• 8:15
  good
• 8:15
  point,
• 8:16
  because
• 8:17
  I
• 8:17
  think
• 8:17
  people
• 8:19
  say
• 8:19
  yes
• 8:20
  to
• 8:20
  things
• 8:21
  that
• 8:21
  are
• 8:21
  maybes.
• 8:22
  Like,
• 8:23
  if
• 8:23
  something
• 8:23
  feels
• 8:23
  like
• 8:23
  a
• 8:24
  maybe,
• 8:24
  they
• 8:24
  default
• 8:25
  to
• 8:25
  saying
• 8:25
  yes.
• 8:27
  And
• 8:28
  I
• 8:28
  think
• 8:29
  it's
• 8:30
  much
• 8:31
  more
• 8:31
  beneficial
• 8:32
  if
• 8:32
  something's
• 8:33
  a
• 8:33
  maybe,
• 8:34
  it's
• 8:34
  a
• 8:34
  no
• 8:35
  to
• 8:35
  recognize
• 8:35
  it's
• 8:36
  a
• 8:36
  no.
• 8:37
  Right.
• 8:37
  If
• 8:37
  it's
• 8:37
  not
• 8:38
  a
• 8:38
  yes,
• 8:38
  it's
• 8:39
  a
• 8:39
  no.
• 8:40
  Yeah.
• 8:40
  If
• 8:40
  it's
• 8:41
  not
• 8:41
  a
• 8:41
  will
• 8:42
  this
• 8:42
  make
• 8:42
  it
• 8:42
  explicit?
• 8:43
  If
• 8:43
  it's
• 8:43
  not
• 8:43
  a
• 8:43
  hell
• 8:44
  yes,
• 8:46
  it's
• 8:46
  enough.
• 8:48
  I
• 8:48
  don't
• 8:48
  think
• 8:48
  that's
• 8:48
  too
• 8:49
  explicit.
• 8:49
  I
• 8:50
  don't
• 8:50
  know.
• 8:51
  I
• 8:52
  don't
• 8:52
  know
• 8:52
  what
• 8:52
  the
• 8:52
  rules
• 8:52
  are.
• 8:54
  I.
• 8:54
  I
• 8:54
  just
• 8:55
  try
• 8:55
  not
• 8:55
  to
• 8:55
  cross
• 8:55
  them.
• 8:59
  But
• 8:59
  I
• 8:59
  think
• 9:00
  that's
• 9:00
  such
• 9:00
  a.
• 9:00
  A
• 9:01
  valuable
• 9:02
  thing
• 9:02
  to
• 9:03
  remember
• 9:03
  and
• 9:03
  that
• 9:04
  we
• 9:04
  don't
• 9:04
  have
• 9:05
  unlimited
• 9:06
  time,
• 9:06
  we
• 9:06
  don't
• 9:07
  have
• 9:07
  unlimited
• 9:08
  resources,
• 9:08
  we
• 9:09
  don't
• 9:09
  have
• 9:09
  unlimited
• 9:10
  energy.
• 9:11
  And
• 9:12
  so
• 9:12
  you're
• 9:13
  making
• 9:13
  choices
• 9:14
  and
• 9:15
  you
• 9:16
  need
• 9:16
  to
• 9:16
  make
• 9:16
  the
• 9:16
  choices
• 9:17
  that
• 9:17
  work
• 9:17
  for
• 9:17
  you.
• 9:18
  You
• 9:18
  have
• 9:19
  to
• 9:19
  choose
• 9:20
  what's
• 9:20
  important
• 9:20
  to
• 9:20
  you,
• 9:22
  not
• 9:22
  what's
• 9:22
  important
• 9:23
  to
• 9:23
  other
• 9:23
  people.
• 9:25
  Yeah,
• 9:25
  I
• 9:25
  agree.
• 9:26
  And
• 9:26
  I
• 9:26
  feel
• 9:27
  like
• 9:27
  this
• 9:28
  is
• 9:28
  something
• 9:28
  that's
• 9:28
  come
• 9:28
  for
• 9:29
  me
• 9:29
  anyway
• 9:29
  with
• 9:29
  age.
• 9:30
  Priorities
• 9:31
  are
• 9:31
  so
• 9:31
  much
• 9:32
  more
• 9:32
  clear
• 9:32
  now
• 9:32
  than
• 9:33
  they
• 9:33
  were
• 9:33
  when
• 9:33
  I
• 9:33
  was
• 9:33
  younger.
• 9:34
  I
• 9:34
  don't
• 9:35
  know
• 9:35
  why,
• 9:36
  but
• 9:37
  when
• 9:38
  you're
• 9:38
  in
• 9:38
  touch
• 9:38
  with
• 9:38
  what's
• 9:39
  important
• 9:39
  to
• 9:39
  you,
• 9:40
  then
• 9:41
  it
• 9:41
  becomes
• 9:42
  really
• 9:42
  easy
• 9:42
  to
• 9:43
  discern
• 9:44
  that
• 9:44
  yes
• 9:44
  and
• 9:44
  that
• 9:45
  no.
• 9:45
  And
• 9:45
  I
• 9:46
  think
• 9:46
  maybe
• 9:47
  what
• 9:47
  part
• 9:47
  of
• 9:47
  what
• 9:47
  we're
• 9:48
  trying
• 9:48
  to
• 9:48
  do
• 9:48
  today
• 9:48
  is
• 9:49
  encourage
• 9:49
  people
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  listen
• 9:50
  to
• 9:50
  that
• 9:50
  no
• 9:51
  and
• 9:51
  feel
• 9:51
  okay
• 9:53
  about
• 9:54
  saying
• 9:54
  no
• 9:54
  and
• 9:54
  saying
• 9:55
  no.
• 9:55
  It
• 9:55
  doesn't
• 9:55
  have
• 9:56
  to
• 9:56
  be
• 9:56
  a
• 9:57
  long
• 9:57
  explanation
• 9:57
  as
• 9:57
  you,
• 9:58
  as
• 9:58
  we
• 9:58
  were
• 9:58
  discussing,
• 9:59
  but
• 9:59
  also
• 9:59
  it
• 9:59
  doesn't
• 9:59
  have
• 10:00
  to
• 10:00
  be
• 10:00
  rude
• 10:01
  or
• 10:01
  unkind.
• 10:02
  It
• 10:02
  can
• 10:02
  be
• 10:03
  sincerely
• 10:04
  regretful,
• 10:05
  but
• 10:05
  you
• 10:05
  just
• 10:06
  can
• 10:07
  stage
• 10:07
  it
• 10:07
  in
• 10:07
  such
• 10:08
  a
• 10:08
  way
• 10:08
  that
• 10:08
  it
• 10:08
  is.
• 10:09
  There's
• 10:09
  no
• 10:09
  arguments
• 10:10
  and
• 10:11
  that's
• 10:12
  that.
• 10:13
  Right?
• 10:14
  Yeah,
• 10:14
  I
• 10:14
  think
• 10:15
  that's
• 10:15
  a
• 10:15
  really
• 10:15
  good
• 10:16
  point.
• 10:16
  Is
• 10:17
  that
• 10:18
  your
• 10:18
  no
• 10:20
  can,
• 10:20
  can
• 10:21
  be
• 10:21
  a
• 10:21
  kind
• 10:22
  no,
• 10:22
  a
• 10:23
  thoughtful
• 10:23
  no.
• 10:24
  Yes.
• 10:24
  Yeah.
• 10:26
  Because
• 10:26
  it's
• 10:27
  true
• 10:27
  that
• 10:27
  we,
• 10:27
  like
• 10:28
  you
• 10:28
  said
• 10:29
  at
• 10:29
  the
• 10:29
  beginning,
• 10:29
  there
• 10:30
  are
• 10:30
  lots
• 10:30
  of
• 10:30
  things
• 10:30
  you've
• 10:30
  had
• 10:31
  to
• 10:31
  say
• 10:31
  no
• 10:31
  to
• 10:33
  recently.
• 10:33
  And
• 10:34
  that's
• 10:34
  because
• 10:34
  of
• 10:34
  your
• 10:34
  priorities,
• 10:35
  obviously
• 10:35
  your
• 10:36
  health
• 10:37
  and
• 10:37
  survival
• 10:38
  in
• 10:39
  the
• 10:39
  next
• 10:39
  couple
• 10:39
  of
• 10:39
  years,
• 10:40
  couple
• 10:40
  months
• 10:41
  is,
• 10:41
  is
• 10:42
  your
• 10:42
  priority
• 10:43
  in
• 10:43
  your
• 10:44
  emotional
• 10:44
  survival
• 10:45
  as
• 10:45
  well
• 10:45
  as
• 10:45
  physical.
• 10:47
  Yeah,
• 10:47
  yeah,
• 10:48
  yeah,
• 10:48
  absolutely.
• 10:49
  And
• 10:52
  it,
• 10:52
  it
• 10:53
  does,
• 10:53
  it
• 10:53
  feels
• 10:54
  hard
• 10:54
  to
• 10:55
  say
• 10:55
  no
• 10:55
  to
• 10:56
  things
• 10:56
  that
• 10:56
  you
• 10:57
  really
• 10:57
  do
• 10:57
  want
• 10:58
  to
• 10:58
  do.
• 10:59
  I
• 11:00
  was
• 11:00
  at
• 11:00
  that
• 11:01
  conference
• 11:01
  and
• 11:02
  it
• 11:02
  was
• 11:02
  a
• 11:02
  three
• 11:02
  day
• 11:03
  conference
• 11:04
  and,
• 11:06
  and
• 11:06
  it
• 11:06
  was
• 11:06
  here
• 11:06
  in
• 11:06
  Portland.
• 11:07
  And
• 11:08
  so
• 11:09
  that
• 11:09
  sort
• 11:10
  of
• 11:10
  made
• 11:10
  it
• 11:10
  a
• 11:10
  little
• 11:10
  more
• 11:11
  complicated
• 11:12
  because
• 11:13
  had
• 11:13
  I
• 11:14
  gone
• 11:14
  away
• 11:14
  somewhere,
• 11:16
  I
• 11:16
  wouldn't
• 11:17
  have
• 11:17
  taken
• 11:17
  all
• 11:18
  of
• 11:18
  my
• 11:18
  home
• 11:18
  responsibilities
• 11:19
  with
• 11:19
  me.
• 11:20
  And
• 11:20
  so
• 11:21
  I
• 11:21
  was
• 11:21
  trying
• 11:21
  to
• 11:21
  do
• 11:22
  stuff
• 11:22
  at
• 11:22
  home
• 11:22
  before
• 11:23
  I
• 11:23
  went
• 11:23
  to
• 11:23
  the
• 11:23
  conference.
• 11:24
  I
• 11:24
  was
• 11:24
  coming
• 11:24
  home
• 11:25
  at
• 11:25
  lunch
• 11:25
  and
• 11:25
  taking
• 11:26
  care
• 11:26
  of
• 11:26
  stuff,
• 11:26
  going
• 11:27
  back
• 11:28
  and
• 11:28
  then
• 11:28
  coming
• 11:29
  home
• 11:30
  afterwards
• 11:31
  and
• 11:32
  doing
• 11:32
  stuff.
• 11:32
  And,
• 11:34
  and
• 11:35
  on
• 11:35
  the
• 11:35
  last
• 11:36
  day
• 11:36
  I
• 11:36
  came
• 11:37
  home
• 11:37
  at
• 11:37
  lunch
• 11:38
  and
• 11:38
  just
• 11:39
  felt
• 11:39
  exhausted
• 11:41
  and
• 11:42
  knew
• 11:42
  I
• 11:43
  had
• 11:43
  to
• 11:43
  get
• 11:43
  up
• 11:43
  at
• 11:43
  4
• 11:44
  o'
• 11:44
  clock
• 11:44
  in
• 11:44
  the
• 11:44
  morning,
• 11:45
  the
• 11:45
  next
• 11:45
  morning
• 11:46
  to
• 11:46
  get
• 11:46
  on
• 11:46
  a
• 11:47
  plane
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  go
• 11:47
  to
• 11:47
  Fresno.
• 11:49
  And
• 11:51
  so
• 11:51
  I
• 11:51
  just
• 11:52
  laid
• 11:52
  down
• 11:52
  for
• 11:53
  a
• 11:53
  nap
• 11:53
  and
• 11:54
  then
• 11:54
  slept
• 11:55
  for
• 11:55
  two
• 11:55
  hours.
• 11:57
  And
• 11:58
  I,
• 11:58
  I
• 11:58
  could
• 11:58
  have
• 11:59
  gone
• 11:59
  back
• 12:00
  and
• 12:01
  caught,
• 12:02
  you
• 12:02
  know,
• 12:03
  the
• 12:03
  tail
• 12:04
  end
• 12:04
  of
• 12:04
  the
• 12:04
  conference,
• 12:05
  but
• 12:05
  I
• 12:06
  just
• 12:06
  decided
• 12:08
  to
• 12:08
  say
• 12:09
  no
• 12:10
  and
• 12:11
  let
• 12:11
  that
• 12:12
  be
• 12:12
  okay.
• 12:12
  Took
• 12:13
  a
• 12:13
  little
• 12:15
  discussion
• 12:15
  with
• 12:15
  myself.
• 12:17
  Like
• 12:17
  I
• 12:17
  was
• 12:18
  really
• 12:18
  trying
• 12:18
  to
• 12:19
  hype
• 12:19
  myself
• 12:20
  up
• 12:20
  and,
• 12:21
  and
• 12:22
  get
• 12:22
  myself
• 12:23
  back
• 12:23
  there
• 12:24
  in
• 12:24
  a
• 12:25
  little
• 12:25
  bit
• 12:25
  of
• 12:25
  a
• 12:25
  mean
• 12:25
  way.
• 12:27
  Mean
• 12:28
  to
• 12:28
  yourself?
• 12:28
  And
• 12:28
  then
• 12:28
  I
• 12:28
  was
• 12:28
  like,
• 12:29
  oh,
• 12:29
  mean
• 12:30
  to
• 12:30
  myself.
• 12:31
  And
• 12:31
  then
• 12:32
  I
• 12:32
  was
• 12:32
  like,
• 12:32
  wait
• 12:32
  a
• 12:33
  minute,
• 12:33
  if
• 12:34
  I
• 12:34
  have
• 12:34
  to
• 12:34
  like
• 12:35
  badger
• 12:36
  myself
• 12:38
  to
• 12:38
  go
• 12:38
  back,
• 12:39
  that's
• 12:40
  a
• 12:40
  big
• 12:40
  clue.
• 12:42
  Yeah.
• 12:43
  Yeah.
• 12:43
  Good
• 12:43
  for
• 12:43
  you
• 12:44
  for
• 12:44
  listening
• 12:44
  to
• 12:44
  that
• 12:44
  clue.
• 12:46
  Yeah.
• 12:46
  And
• 12:46
  I,
• 12:47
  you
• 12:47
  know,
• 12:47
  I
• 12:47
  wish
• 12:47
  I
• 12:48
  would
• 12:48
  have
• 12:49
  been
• 12:49
  there
• 12:49
  for
• 12:50
  the
• 12:50
  last
• 12:50
  few
• 12:51
  sessions,
• 12:51
  but.
• 12:52
  And
• 12:52
  to
• 12:52
  say
• 12:52
  goodbye
• 12:53
  to
• 12:53
  a
• 12:53
  lot
• 12:54
  of
• 12:54
  really
• 12:54
  great
• 12:54
  people
• 12:54
  that
• 12:55
  I
• 12:55
  met.
• 12:55
  And
• 12:56
  then
• 12:57
  I
• 12:57
  thought,
• 12:58
  oh,
• 12:59
  well,
• 12:59
  I.
• 13:00
  Like,
• 13:00
  I
• 13:00
  don't
• 13:00
  have
• 13:00
  a
• 13:01
  choice.
• 13:01
  I
• 13:01
  mean,
• 13:02
  I
• 13:02
  have
• 13:02
  a
• 13:02
  choice,
• 13:02
  but
• 13:03
  I
• 13:03
  have
• 13:04
  to
• 13:04
  take
• 13:04
  care
• 13:04
  of
• 13:04
  myself
• 13:05
  first.
• 13:05
  Right.
• 13:06
  Yeah.
• 13:06
  Your
• 13:06
  priorities
• 13:07
  were
• 13:08
  clear,
• 13:09
  and
• 13:09
  that's
• 13:09
  really
• 13:09
  great.
• 13:10
  I
• 13:10
  had
• 13:11
  a
• 13:11
  similar
• 13:11
  experience
• 13:13
  last
• 13:13
  month,
• 13:14
  August,
• 13:15
  when
• 13:15
  I
• 13:16
  was
• 13:16
  traveling,
• 13:17
  and
• 13:18
  there
• 13:18
  was
• 13:18
  the.
• 13:20
  My
• 13:20
  chapter
• 13:20
  of
• 13:21
  the
• 13:21
  national
• 13:21
  association
• 13:22
  of
• 13:23
  Productivity
• 13:25
  and
• 13:25
  Organizing
• 13:26
  Professionals.
• 13:27
  NAPO
• 13:28
  was
• 13:28
  how
• 13:29
  they
• 13:29
  changed
• 13:29
  their
• 13:29
  name.
• 13:30
  So
• 13:30
  it
• 13:30
  was
• 13:30
  so
• 13:30
  much
• 13:31
  easier
• 13:31
  before
• 13:31
  the
• 13:32
  productivity
• 13:32
  part
• 13:33
  got
• 13:33
  in.
• 13:33
  Exactly.
• 13:34
  Yes.
• 13:35
  And
• 13:35
  our
• 13:36
  chapter
• 13:36
  meeting
• 13:36
  was
• 13:36
  at
• 13:36
  ikea,
• 13:37
  tour
• 13:37
  of
• 13:37
  ikea,
• 13:38
  lunch
• 13:39
  afterward.
• 13:39
  And
• 13:40
  that's
• 13:40
  fun,
• 13:41
  but
• 13:42
  I
• 13:42
  was
• 13:42
  flying
• 13:43
  in
• 13:43
  that
• 13:43
  morning
• 13:44
  and
• 13:44
  it
• 13:44
  was
• 13:44
  gonna
• 13:44
  be
• 13:44
  really
• 13:45
  tight
• 13:45
  for
• 13:45
  me
• 13:45
  to
• 13:45
  get
• 13:46
  there.
• 13:46
  And
• 13:47
  at
• 13:47
  some
• 13:47
  point
• 13:47
  while
• 13:47
  I
• 13:48
  was
• 13:48
  away,
• 13:48
  I
• 13:48
  thought,
• 13:48
  you
• 13:48
  know
• 13:48
  what?
• 13:49
  I'm
• 13:49
  just
• 13:49
  gonna
• 13:49
  send
• 13:50
  my
• 13:50
  regrets
• 13:51
  and
• 13:51
  just
• 13:51
  not
• 13:52
  just
• 13:52
  gonna
• 13:52
  let
• 13:52
  go
• 13:52
  of
• 13:52
  the
• 13:53
  expectation
• 13:53
  that
• 13:53
  I
• 13:54
  gonna
• 13:54
  make
• 13:54
  it.
• 13:55
  And
• 13:56
  once
• 13:56
  I
• 13:56
  did
• 13:57
  that,
• 13:57
  I
• 13:57
  felt
• 13:57
  such
• 13:57
  a
• 13:58
  sense
• 13:58
  of
• 13:58
  relief.
• 13:59
  I
• 13:59
  didn't
• 13:59
  realize
• 13:59
  how
• 14:00
  much
• 14:00
  it
• 14:00
  was
• 14:00
  weighing
• 14:00
  on
• 14:01
  me,
• 14:01
  the
• 14:01
  tension
• 14:01
  around,
• 14:02
  am
• 14:02
  I
• 14:02
  gonna
• 14:02
  get
• 14:03
  there
• 14:03
  in
• 14:03
  time?
• 14:03
  Am
• 14:03
  I
• 14:03
  gonna
• 14:04
  get
• 14:04
  to
• 14:04
  the
• 14:04
  meeting
• 14:05
  in
• 14:05
  time?
• 14:06
  And
• 14:06
  once
• 14:06
  I
• 14:06
  let
• 14:07
  it
• 14:07
  go,
• 14:07
  I'm.
• 14:07
  Like,
• 14:07
  oh,
• 14:08
  wow,
• 14:08
  okay.
• 14:09
  I
• 14:09
  feel
• 14:09
  lighter.
• 14:10
  So
• 14:11
  sometimes
• 14:12
  no
• 14:12
  is
• 14:14
  really
• 14:14
  beneficial.
• 14:15
  And
• 14:15
  oftentimes
• 14:16
  you
• 14:16
  feel
• 14:16
  it.
• 14:16
  Once
• 14:17
  you've
• 14:17
  made
• 14:17
  the
• 14:17
  decision
• 14:18
  to
• 14:18
  say
• 14:18
  no
• 14:18
  and
• 14:19
  you
• 14:20
  say
• 14:20
  no,
• 14:21
  or
• 14:21
  to
• 14:22
  yourself
• 14:22
  or
• 14:22
  others,
• 14:23
  then
• 14:24
  you
• 14:24
  get
• 14:24
  that
• 14:24
  relief,
• 14:25
  which
• 14:25
  is
• 14:25
  always
• 14:26
  a
• 14:26
  good
• 14:26
  clue.
• 14:26
  It's
• 14:26
  a
• 14:26
  good
• 14:27
  choice.
• 14:28
  Yeah.
• 14:29
  And
• 14:29
  sometimes
• 14:30
  you
• 14:30
  can
• 14:31
  practice
• 14:32
  that,
• 14:32
  sort
• 14:33
  of
• 14:35
  run
• 14:35
  yourself
• 14:36
  through
• 14:36
  the
• 14:36
  scenario
• 14:37
  of
• 14:37
  what
• 14:38
  would
• 14:38
  it
• 14:38
  be
• 14:38
  like
• 14:38
  if
• 14:38
  I
• 14:39
  said
• 14:39
  no?
• 14:40
  Although,
• 14:41
  depending
• 14:42
  on
• 14:43
  how
• 14:43
  your
• 14:43
  brain
• 14:44
  works,
• 14:44
  that
• 14:44
  might
• 14:44
  just
• 14:45
  stir
• 14:45
  up
• 14:46
  the
• 14:46
  things
• 14:46
  that
• 14:46
  you
• 14:47
  would
• 14:47
  feel
• 14:47
  bad
• 14:47
  or
• 14:47
  regret
• 14:48
  if
• 14:48
  you
• 14:49
  didn't
• 14:49
  do
• 14:49
  it.
• 14:50
  Oh.
• 14:53
  But
• 14:54
  it
• 14:54
  is
• 14:55
  really
• 14:55
  nice
• 14:55
  when
• 14:55
  you
• 14:56
  get
• 14:56
  that
• 14:56
  feeling
• 14:56
  of
• 14:57
  relief
• 14:57
  and
• 14:58
  confirmation,
• 14:59
  like,
• 14:59
  oh,
• 14:59
  I
• 14:59
  just
• 14:59
  made
• 15:00
  the
• 15:00
  right
• 15:00
  decision.
• 15:02
  Yeah.
• 15:02
  You
• 15:03
  must
• 15:03
  have
• 15:03
  been
• 15:03
  so
• 15:03
  tired
• 15:04
  after
• 15:04
  two
• 15:04
  and
• 15:05
  a
• 15:05
  half
• 15:05
  days
• 15:05
  of
• 15:05
  a
• 15:05
  conference
• 15:06
  and
• 15:06
  all
• 15:06
  the
• 15:06
  other
• 15:06
  things,
• 15:09
  and
• 15:09
  then
• 15:09
  knowing
• 15:09
  you
• 15:10
  had
• 15:10
  to
• 15:10
  get
• 15:10
  up
• 15:11
  really
• 15:11
  early
• 15:11
  the
• 15:11
  next
• 15:11
  morning.
• 15:12
  I
• 15:12
  mean,
• 15:13
  that
• 15:13
  seems
• 15:13
  like
• 15:14
  that
• 15:14
  was.
• 15:14
  You
• 15:14
  were
• 15:15
  asking
• 15:15
  a
• 15:15
  lot
• 15:15
  of
• 15:15
  yourself
• 15:16
  to
• 15:16
  go
• 15:17
  to
• 15:17
  all
• 15:17
  three
• 15:17
  days
• 15:17
  in
• 15:18
  the
• 15:18
  first
• 15:18
  place.
• 15:18
  Maybe.
• 15:19
  Absolutely.
• 15:20
  100%
• 15:21
  asking
• 15:22
  too
• 15:22
  much
• 15:22
  of
• 15:23
  myself.
• 15:24
  Yeah.
• 15:27
  Yeah.
• 15:28
  And
• 15:30
  I
• 15:30
  sort
• 15:31
  of
• 15:31
  talked
• 15:31
  myself
• 15:31
  into
• 15:32
  it
• 15:32
  because
• 15:33
  I'd
• 15:34
  spent
• 15:34
  the
• 15:34
  money.
• 15:35
  It
• 15:35
  was
• 15:36
  in
• 15:36
  Portland.
• 15:39
  This
• 15:40
  is,
• 15:40
  you
• 15:40
  know,
• 15:40
  I
• 15:40
  don't
• 15:41
  know
• 15:41
  where
• 15:41
  they're
• 15:41
  gonna
• 15:42
  hold
• 15:42
  it
• 15:42
  in
• 15:42
  2026.
• 15:43
  They
• 15:43
  probably
• 15:43
  made
• 15:44
  the
• 15:44
  announcement
• 15:44
  at
• 15:44
  the
• 15:45
  last
• 15:45
  thing
• 15:45
  that
• 15:45
  I
• 15:46
  Probably
• 15:46
  did
• 15:46
  go
• 15:47
  online,
• 15:48
  find
• 15:48
  out,
• 15:50
  and
• 15:50
  then.
• 15:51
  But
• 15:51
  I
• 15:51
  sort
• 15:51
  of
• 15:51
  gave
• 15:52
  myself
• 15:52
  permission
• 15:53
  that,
• 15:54
  you
• 15:55
  know,
• 15:55
  if.
• 15:56
  If
• 15:56
  it
• 15:57
  was
• 15:57
  too
• 15:57
  much,
• 15:57
  then
• 15:57
  I
• 15:58
  would
• 15:58
  just
• 15:59
  stay
• 15:59
  home.
• 15:59
  Like,
• 16:00
  I
• 16:00
  even
• 16:01
  gave
• 16:01
  my.
• 16:01
  Myself
• 16:02
  permission
• 16:02
  to
• 16:02
  not
• 16:03
  go
• 16:03
  at
• 16:03
  all.
• 16:04
  But
• 16:04
  I
• 16:05
  really
• 16:05
  wanted
• 16:05
  to
• 16:05
  go.
• 16:05
  There
• 16:06
  were
• 16:06
  things
• 16:06
  I
• 16:06
  wanted
• 16:06
  to
• 16:07
  learn,
• 16:07
  There
• 16:07
  were
• 16:07
  people
• 16:07
  I
• 16:08
  wanted
• 16:08
  to
• 16:08
  meet
• 16:09
  and.
• 16:15
  Was
• 16:15
  great.
• 16:15
  You
• 16:15
  know,
• 16:15
  it
• 16:15
  was
• 16:16
  one
• 16:16
  of
• 16:16
  those
• 16:16
  things
• 16:16
  where
• 16:17
  you
• 16:17
  go
• 16:17
  and
• 16:17
  it's
• 16:18
  very.
• 16:20
  I
• 16:20
  don't
• 16:20
  know,
• 16:21
  it
• 16:21
  just
• 16:21
  sort
• 16:21
  of
• 16:21
  jazzed
• 16:22
  me
• 16:22
  up,
• 16:22
  and
• 16:22
  I
• 16:22
  got
• 16:23
  excited,
• 16:23
  and
• 16:23
  I
• 16:24
  met
• 16:24
  all
• 16:24
  these
• 16:24
  really
• 16:24
  amazing
• 16:25
  people,
• 16:25
  and
• 16:26
  every
• 16:26
  time
• 16:26
  I
• 16:26
  thought,
• 16:27
  like,
• 16:27
  oh,
• 16:27
  I.
• 16:28
  I
• 16:28
  need
• 16:28
  to
• 16:29
  just
• 16:29
  go
• 16:29
  home.
• 16:29
  I
• 16:30
  need
• 16:30
  to
• 16:30
  skip,
• 16:31
  you
• 16:31
  know,
• 16:31
  this
• 16:32
  next
• 16:32
  session
• 16:32
  or
• 16:32
  whatever,
• 16:34
  I'd
• 16:34
  go,
• 16:35
  and
• 16:35
  then
• 16:35
  it'd
• 16:35
  be,
• 16:35
  like,
• 16:36
  really
• 16:36
  amazing.
• 16:37
  And
• 16:38
  then
• 16:38
  that
• 16:38
  kept
• 16:39
  feeding
• 16:39
  me
• 16:39
  into
• 16:40
  going
• 16:40
  more
• 16:42
  to
• 16:42
  the
• 16:42
  point
• 16:42
  of
• 16:42
  exhaustion.
• 16:44
  To
• 16:44
  the
• 16:44
  point
• 16:45
  of
• 16:45
  exhaustion?
• 16:45
  Yeah.
• 16:46
  Yeah.
• 16:46
  Until
• 16:46
  your
• 16:47
  body
• 16:47
  said,
• 16:47
  no,
• 16:47
  you
• 16:48
  can't
• 16:48
  do
• 16:48
  this
• 16:48
  anymore.
• 16:49
  I
• 16:49
  feel
• 16:49
  like
• 16:49
  conferences
• 16:51
  are
• 16:51
  so.
• 16:51
  Can
• 16:52
  be
• 16:52
  so
• 16:52
  fraught.
• 16:52
  Right?
• 16:53
  There's
• 16:53
  such
• 16:53
  a
• 16:54
  push
• 16:54
  and
• 16:54
  pull.
• 16:55
  Yeah,
• 16:56
  yeah.
• 16:56
  Well,
• 16:56
  yeah.
• 16:57
  Any
• 16:57
  event
• 16:58
  where,
• 16:58
  you
• 16:59
  know,
• 16:59
  it's
• 16:59
  a
• 16:59
  group
• 16:59
  of
• 16:59
  people,
• 17:00
  I'm
• 17:00
  thinking
• 17:00
  like
• 17:00
  a
• 17:00
  family
• 17:01
  reunion
• 17:01
  or,
• 17:01
  you
• 17:02
  know,
• 17:02
  I
• 17:02
  was
• 17:02
  at
• 17:02
  this
• 17:02
  family
• 17:02
  wedding,
• 17:03
  and.
• 17:04
  And.
• 17:06
  And
• 17:06
  it's
• 17:06
  hard
• 17:07
  when
• 17:07
  there's
• 17:07
  all
• 17:07
  this
• 17:08
  stuff
• 17:08
  you
• 17:08
  want
• 17:08
  to
• 17:08
  do,
• 17:09
  and
• 17:10
  you
• 17:10
  have
• 17:12
  real
• 17:14
  limitations.
• 17:15
  You
• 17:15
  know,
• 17:15
  they
• 17:16
  may
• 17:16
  not
• 17:16
  be
• 17:17
  tight
• 17:18
  limitations,
• 17:18
  but
• 17:18
  you
• 17:19
  have
• 17:19
  limitations
• 17:19
  on
• 17:20
  your
• 17:21
  energy
• 17:22
  and
• 17:22
  time
• 17:23
  and
• 17:23
  all
• 17:24
  of
• 17:24
  that.
• 17:24
  I
• 17:24
  think
• 17:24
  that's
• 17:25
  probably
• 17:25
  a
• 17:25
  whole
• 17:25
  other
• 17:26
  episode
• 17:26
  that
• 17:26
  we
• 17:26
  need
• 17:27
  to
• 17:28
  explore.
• 17:29
  Yeah,
• 17:29
  I
• 17:29
  think
• 17:29
  so,
• 17:29
  too.
• 17:30
  That
• 17:30
  could
• 17:30
  be.
• 17:30
  I
• 17:30
  think
• 17:30
  we
• 17:31
  probably
• 17:31
  have
• 17:31
  lots
• 17:31
  to
• 17:31
  say.
• 17:32
  Yeah.
• 17:33
  Yeah.
• 17:34
  Having
• 17:35
  attended
• 17:35
  a
• 17:36
  lot
• 17:36
  of
• 17:36
  conferences
• 17:36
  on
• 17:37
  our
• 17:37
  own
• 17:37
  and
• 17:37
  together.
• 17:38
  That's
• 17:39
  right.
• 17:39
  Exactly.
• 17:41
  Aren't
• 17:41
  we
• 17:41
  lucky?
• 17:43
  Yeah.
• 17:44
  Yeah.
• 17:46
  But
• 17:46
  it.
• 17:47
  I
• 17:47
  think
• 17:48
  I'm
• 17:49
  just
• 17:49
  thinking
• 17:49
  back
• 17:50
  to
• 17:50
  some
• 17:50
  of
• 17:50
  the
• 17:50
  things
• 17:51
  that
• 17:51
  I've
• 17:51
  said
• 17:51
  no
• 17:52
  to
• 17:53
  that
• 17:53
  were
• 17:53
  hard
• 17:53
  to
• 17:53
  say
• 17:54
  no
• 17:54
  to.
• 17:55
  I
• 17:55
  used
• 17:55
  to
• 17:56
  volunteer
• 17:57
  for
• 17:58
  the
• 17:59
  pediatric
• 18:00
  intensive
• 18:00
  care
• 18:00
  unit
• 18:01
  of
• 18:01
  Doernbecher
• 18:02
  Children's
• 18:02
  Hospital
• 18:03
  here
• 18:04
  in
• 18:04
  Portland,
• 18:04
  and
• 18:06
  I
• 18:06
  did
• 18:06
  it
• 18:06
  for
• 18:07
  a
• 18:07
  year,
• 18:07
  and
• 18:07
  I
• 18:07
  really
• 18:08
  loved
• 18:08
  it.
• 18:09
  I
• 18:09
  mean,
• 18:09
  it
• 18:09
  felt
• 18:10
  like
• 18:10
  I
• 18:10
  was
• 18:11
  doing
• 18:12
  good
• 18:12
  work
• 18:13
  and.
• 18:15
  And
• 18:16
  like,
• 18:16
  I
• 18:16
  was.
• 18:17
  It
• 18:17
  was
• 18:18
  a
• 18:18
  small
• 18:18
  difference,
• 18:20
  but
• 18:20
  for
• 18:21
  people
• 18:21
  who
• 18:22
  were
• 18:23
  probably
• 18:23
  going
• 18:23
  through
• 18:24
  one
• 18:24
  of
• 18:24
  the
• 18:24
  worst
• 18:25
  experiences
• 18:26
  of
• 18:26
  their
• 18:26
  lives,
• 18:28
  you
• 18:28
  know,
• 18:28
  I.
• 18:29
  Any
• 18:29
  small
• 18:29
  difference
• 18:30
  I
• 18:30
  could
• 18:30
  make,
• 18:30
  I
• 18:31
  thought
• 18:31
  was
• 18:31
  really
• 18:32
  worth
• 18:33
  doing,
• 18:33
  worthwhile.
• 18:34
  But
• 18:35
  when
• 18:35
  I
• 18:35
  had
• 18:35
  my
• 18:36
  right
• 18:36
  shoulder
• 18:36
  surgery
• 18:37
  and
• 18:37
  I
• 18:38
  couldn't
• 18:39
  volunteer
• 18:40
  anymore,
• 18:41
  and
• 18:43
  it
• 18:43
  was
• 18:44
  hard
• 18:44
  to
• 18:44
  step
• 18:44
  away,
• 18:45
  and
• 18:45
  I
• 18:45
  sort
• 18:45
  of
• 18:45
  had
• 18:46
  this
• 18:48
  very
• 18:48
  Pollyanna
• 18:49
  idea
• 18:50
  that
• 18:50
  I
• 18:51
  would
• 18:51
  be
• 18:51
  able
• 18:51
  to
• 18:52
  go
• 18:52
  back
• 18:52
  after
• 18:52
  four
• 18:53
  weeks
• 18:53
  ago.
• 18:53
  I
• 18:54
  get
• 18:54
  my
• 18:55
  brace
• 18:56
  off
• 18:56
  in
• 18:56
  four
• 18:57
  weeks
• 18:57
  or
• 18:57
  five
• 18:57
  weeks
• 18:58
  or
• 18:58
  whatever,
• 18:58
  and
• 18:59
  then
• 18:59
  I'll
• 18:59
  go
• 18:59
  back
• 18:59
  to
• 18:59
  volunteering.
• 19:00
  And
• 19:01
  it
• 19:01
  just
• 19:01
  took
• 19:02
  so
• 19:02
  long
• 19:03
  to
• 19:03
  rehab
• 19:03
  my
• 19:04
  shoulder
• 19:04
  before
• 19:04
  I'd
• 19:05
  be
• 19:05
  able
• 19:05
  to
• 19:05
  hold
• 19:06
  babies
• 19:06
  and
• 19:07
  make
• 19:07
  beds
• 19:08
  and
• 19:08
  do
• 19:09
  other
• 19:09
  people's
• 19:10
  laundry
• 19:10
  and
• 19:10
  stuff
• 19:11
  that
• 19:11
  I
• 19:12
  just
• 19:13
  wasn't
• 19:13
  able
• 19:13
  to
• 19:14
  go
• 19:14
  back
• 19:14
  for
• 19:14
  so
• 19:14
  long.
• 19:14
  And
• 19:15
  then
• 19:15
  I
• 19:15
  decided
• 19:16
  not
• 19:16
  to
• 19:16
  go
• 19:16
  back.
• 19:17
  And
• 19:17
  like,
• 19:18
  I
• 19:18
  still
• 19:18
  miss
• 19:19
  it,
• 19:21
  but
• 19:22
  I'm
• 19:23
  glad
• 19:23
  I
• 19:23
  didn't
• 19:24
  say
• 19:24
  yes
• 19:25
  just
• 19:25
  to
• 19:25
  have
• 19:26
  to
• 19:26
  stop
• 19:26
  doing
• 19:27
  it
• 19:27
  again.
• 19:28
  Right.
• 19:29
  Or
• 19:29
  promise
• 19:29
  that
• 19:30
  you
• 19:30
  would
• 19:30
  be
• 19:30
  back
• 19:30
  after
• 19:31
  four
• 19:31
  weeks
• 19:31
  and
• 19:31
  then
• 19:31
  have
• 19:32
  to
• 19:32
  say
• 19:32
  no.
• 19:33
  Sometimes
• 19:34
  I
• 19:34
  think
• 19:34
  about
• 19:34
  how,
• 19:34
  and
• 19:35
  I
• 19:35
  think,
• 19:35
  think
• 19:36
  that
• 19:36
  volunteer
• 19:36
  gig
• 19:37
  you
• 19:37
  had
• 19:37
  was
• 19:37
  an
• 19:38
  in
• 19:38
  demand
• 19:38
  volunteer
• 19:39
  opportunity
• 19:39
  because
• 19:40
  people
• 19:40
  love
• 19:40
  holding
• 19:40
  babies
• 19:41
  and
• 19:41
  stuff.
• 19:41
  Am
• 19:41
  I
• 19:41
  right?
• 19:44
  My
• 19:44
  particular
• 19:45
  one
• 19:45
  wasn't
• 19:46
  because
• 19:46
  I
• 19:46
  was
• 19:46
  in
• 19:46
  the
• 19:47
  pediatric
• 19:47
  intensive
• 19:48
  care,
• 19:48
  not
• 19:48
  the
• 19:49
  neonatal
• 19:49
  intensive
• 19:50
  care.
• 19:50
  The
• 19:50
  neonatal
• 19:51
  is
• 19:51
  the.
• 19:52
  Is
• 19:53
  all
• 19:53
  baby
• 19:54
  holding
• 19:54
  all
• 19:54
  the
• 19:54
  time.
• 19:55
  That's
• 19:55
  the
• 19:56
  one
• 19:56
  where
• 19:56
  like,
• 19:56
  people
• 19:56
  are
• 19:57
  lined
• 19:57
  up
• 19:57
  out
• 19:57
  the
• 19:58
  door
• 19:58
  for
• 19:58
  that
• 19:58
  moment.
• 19:59
  Right,
• 19:59
  right.
• 20:00
  Well,
• 20:00
  what
• 20:01
  I
• 20:01
  was
• 20:01
  thinking
• 20:01
  was
• 20:02
  that
• 20:02
  sometimes
• 20:02
  by
• 20:02
  saying
• 20:03
  no
• 20:03
  or,
• 20:05
  or
• 20:05
  stopping
• 20:05
  doing
• 20:05
  something,
• 20:06
  you're
• 20:06
  opening
• 20:08
  an
• 20:08
  opportunity
• 20:08
  for
• 20:09
  somebody
• 20:09
  else
• 20:10
  to
• 20:10
  absolutely
• 20:11
  do
• 20:11
  it.
• 20:11
  And
• 20:11
  that
• 20:12
  can
• 20:12
  be
• 20:12
  something
• 20:12
  good
• 20:12
  to
• 20:13
  remind
• 20:13
  yourself
• 20:13
  when.
• 20:14
  When
• 20:14
  you're
• 20:14
  saying
• 20:15
  no.
• 20:15
  I
• 20:15
  did
• 20:16
  have
• 20:16
  a
• 20:16
  coveted
• 20:17
  spot.
• 20:17
  My.
• 20:18
  My
• 20:18
  shift
• 20:19
  was
• 20:19
  a
• 20:19
  coveted
• 20:20
  shift.
• 20:20
  So
• 20:21
  that
• 20:21
  opened
• 20:22
  up
• 20:22
  for
• 20:22
  someone
• 20:23
  else.
• 20:23
  Yeah,
• 20:24
  someone's
• 20:24
  enjoying
• 20:25
  that
• 20:25
  now.
• 20:25
  Yeah.
• 20:26
  Yeah,
• 20:28
  absolutely.
• 20:29
  One
• 20:29
  way
• 20:30
  to
• 20:30
  remind
• 20:31
  yourself
• 20:32
  that
• 20:33
  saying
• 20:34
  no
• 20:36
  to
• 20:36
  something
• 20:37
  that
• 20:37
  you
• 20:37
  don't
• 20:37
  really
• 20:38
  have
• 20:38
  the
• 20:38
  bandwidth
• 20:39
  to
• 20:39
  do
• 20:39
  is
• 20:40
  better
• 20:40
  than
• 20:40
  saying
• 20:40
  yes
• 20:41
  to
• 20:41
  it
• 20:42
  is
• 20:43
  that
• 20:44
  something's
• 20:45
  got
• 20:45
  to
• 20:45
  give.
• 20:46
  And
• 20:46
  either,
• 20:48
  you
• 20:48
  know,
• 20:49
  you.
• 20:49
  You're
• 20:51
  going
• 20:51
  to
• 20:51
  be
• 20:51
  exhausted
• 20:52
  and
• 20:53
  by
• 20:53
  the
• 20:53
  way,
• 20:55
  over
• 20:55
  sleep
• 20:57
  the
• 20:57
  morning
• 20:57
  that
• 20:57
  you're
• 20:58
  supposed
• 20:58
  to
• 20:58
  get
• 20:59
  up
• 20:59
  at
• 20:59
  4am
• 21:00
  until
• 21:02
  5:18,
• 21:04
  when
• 21:04
  you
• 21:05
  were
• 21:05
  supposed
• 21:05
  to
• 21:05
  be
• 21:06
  leaving
• 21:06
  to
• 21:06
  the
• 21:07
  airport
• 21:07
  at
• 21:07
  5.
• 21:08
  Oh
• 21:09
  God.
• 21:09
  When
• 21:10
  you
• 21:10
  said
• 21:10
  4am
• 21:11
  I'm
• 21:11
  gonna
• 21:12
  get
• 21:12
  up
• 21:12
  at
• 21:12
  4am
• 21:12
  the
• 21:12
  next
• 21:13
  day,
• 21:13
  I
• 21:13
  almost
• 21:13
  said,
• 21:14
  yeah,
• 21:14
  that's
• 21:14
  what
• 21:14
  you
• 21:15
  thought,
• 21:16
  because
• 21:16
  I
• 21:16
  knew
• 21:16
  you
• 21:16
  had
• 21:17
  overslept.
• 21:17
  I
• 21:17
  mean,
• 21:18
  that's.
• 21:19
  That
• 21:19
  was
• 21:20
  a
• 21:20
  rough
• 21:20
  morning.
• 21:21
  Yeah.
• 21:21
  Yeah,
• 21:22
  that
• 21:22
  was
• 21:22
  a
• 21:22
  rough
• 21:22
  morning.
• 21:24
  Luckily,
• 21:24
  I,
• 21:25
  as,
• 21:26
  you
• 21:26
  know,
• 21:26
  enjoy
• 21:26
  getting
• 21:27
  to
• 21:27
  the
• 21:27
  airport
• 21:28
  a
• 21:28
  good
• 21:28
  two
• 21:29
  hours
• 21:29
  early.
• 21:31
  And
• 21:32
  so
• 21:33
  I
• 21:34
  was
• 21:34
  there
• 21:34
  in
• 21:35
  plenty
• 21:35
  of
• 21:35
  time.
• 21:38
  Yeah,
• 21:38
  like,
• 21:39
  it
• 21:39
  was,
• 21:40
  it
• 21:40
  was
• 21:40
  not
• 21:41
  a
• 21:41
  problem.
• 21:41
  It
• 21:42
  was
• 21:42
  a
• 21:42
  little
• 21:42
  stressful.
• 21:43
  Luckily,
• 21:44
  I
• 21:44
  have
• 21:44
  a
• 21:44
  very
• 21:46
  helpful
• 21:47
  husband
• 21:47
  who
• 21:48
  I
• 21:48
  was
• 21:48
  planning
• 21:49
  to
• 21:49
  drive
• 21:49
  myself
• 21:49
  and
• 21:50
  park
• 21:50
  and
• 21:50
  take
• 21:50
  the
• 21:50
  shuttle
• 21:51
  and.
• 21:52
  And
• 21:52
  I
• 21:53
  just
• 21:53
  woke
• 21:53
  him
• 21:53
  up
• 21:54
  and
• 21:55
  said,
• 21:56
  can
• 21:56
  you
• 21:56
  drive
• 21:57
  me?
• 21:57
  I
• 21:57
  overslept.
• 21:58
  And
• 21:59
  he
• 21:59
  was
• 21:59
  like
• 21:59
  dressed
• 22:00
  and
• 22:01
  downstairs
• 22:01
  and
• 22:02
  ready
• 22:02
  to
• 22:02
  go
• 22:03
  in
• 22:04
  like
• 22:04
  a
• 22:04
  minute.
• 22:05
  I'm
• 22:05
  not
• 22:05
  kidding.
• 22:06
  It
• 22:06
  was.
• 22:07
  I
• 22:07
  was
• 22:07
  like,
• 22:08
  whoa.
• 22:10
  I
• 22:10
  would
• 22:10
  think
• 22:10
  you
• 22:11
  were
• 22:11
  exaggerating
• 22:11
  if
• 22:12
  I
• 22:12
  didn't
• 22:12
  know,
• 22:12
  Mike,
• 22:13
  but
• 22:13
  I
• 22:13
  can
• 22:13
  totally
• 22:14
  See,
• 22:14
  he's
• 22:14
  like
• 22:15
  gonna
• 22:15
  rise
• 22:15
  the
• 22:15
  occasion
• 22:16
  and
• 22:16
  also
• 22:16
  you.
• 22:17
  He's
• 22:17
  a
• 22:17
  happy
• 22:18
  morning
• 22:18
  person,
• 22:18
  if
• 22:19
  I
• 22:19
  recall.
• 22:19
  He
• 22:20
  is
• 22:20
  a
• 22:20
  happy
• 22:20
  morning
• 22:21
  person.
• 22:21
  He
• 22:21
  chit
• 22:22
  chatted
• 22:22
  the
• 22:22
  whole
• 22:23
  way
• 22:23
  to
• 22:23
  the
• 22:23
  airport.
• 22:24
  That's
• 22:24
  great.
• 22:25
  He's
• 22:25
  awesome.
• 22:27
  I
• 22:28
  know.
• 22:28
  And
• 22:28
  I'm
• 22:28
  less
• 22:28
  like,
• 22:29
  oh
• 22:29
  no,
• 22:31
  this
• 22:31
  is
• 22:32
  bad.
• 22:32
  And
• 22:32
  he's
• 22:33
  like.
• 22:35
  Because
• 22:35
  he
• 22:36
  attended
• 22:36
  one
• 22:36
  of
• 22:36
  the
• 22:37
  things
• 22:37
  that
• 22:37
  I
• 22:37
  had
• 22:37
  to
• 22:38
  say
• 22:38
  no
• 22:38
  to
• 22:38
  the
• 22:38
  night
• 22:39
  before.
• 22:39
  So
• 22:39
  he
• 22:39
  was
• 22:39
  filling
• 22:40
  me
• 22:40
  in
• 22:40
  on
• 22:41
  all
• 22:41
  of
• 22:41
  the.
• 22:41
  Oh,
• 22:42
  nice.
• 22:43
  Nice.
• 22:43
  Yeah,
• 22:44
  yeah,
• 22:45
  that's
• 22:45
  excellent.
• 22:46
  I
• 22:48
  just
• 22:48
  talked
• 22:48
  to
• 22:48
  some,
• 22:48
  some
• 22:49
  friends
• 22:49
  recently
• 22:49
  and
• 22:49
  learned
• 22:50
  that
• 22:50
  the
• 22:51
  wife
• 22:51
  is
• 22:51
  a
• 22:51
  early
• 22:52
  to
• 22:52
  the
• 22:52
  airport
• 22:52
  person,
• 22:53
  the
• 22:53
  husband
• 22:53
  is
• 22:53
  a
• 22:54
  get
• 22:54
  there
• 22:54
  right
• 22:55
  before
• 22:55
  the
• 22:55
  plane
• 22:55
  leaves
• 22:56
  person.
• 22:56
  So
• 22:57
  they
• 22:57
  now
• 22:57
  take
• 22:57
  separate
• 22:58
  Ubers.
• 22:59
  Isn't
• 22:59
  that
• 22:59
  awesome?
• 22:59
  Oh,
• 23:00
  good
• 23:01
  for
• 23:01
  them.
• 23:01
  Uh
• 23:02
  huh.
• 23:02
  I
• 23:02
  thought
• 23:02
  that
• 23:03
  was
• 23:03
  a
• 23:03
  great
• 23:03
  solution.
• 23:05
  Yeah.
• 23:05
  Everybody
• 23:06
  wins.
• 23:06
  Yep.
• 23:07
  Right?
• 23:08
  Oh,
• 23:08
  that
• 23:09
  would
• 23:09
  stress
• 23:09
  me
• 23:09
  out.
• 23:10
  I
• 23:10
  would
• 23:10
  take
• 23:10
  a
• 23:10
  separate
• 23:11
  Uber.
• 23:12
  Yeah.
• 23:12
  And
• 23:12
  then
• 23:12
  I'd
• 23:13
  be
• 23:13
  worried
• 23:13
  at
• 23:13
  the
• 23:13
  airport
• 23:14
  for
• 23:14
  when's
• 23:15
  it
• 23:15
  going
• 23:15
  to
• 23:15
  get
• 23:15
  here?
• 23:15
  But
• 23:15
  at
• 23:16
  least
• 23:16
  I'd
• 23:16
  be
• 23:16
  on
• 23:16
  the
• 23:16
  plane.
• 23:17
  Yeah.
• 23:18
  Yeah.
• 23:19
  Well,
• 23:19
  I
• 23:20
  like
• 23:20
  where
• 23:20
  I'm
• 23:20
  going.
• 23:28
  Yeah.
• 23:29
  So
• 23:30
  it's
• 23:30
  just,
• 23:31
  I
• 23:31
  think
• 23:32
  the
• 23:33
  more
• 23:33
  we
• 23:33
  sort
• 23:33
  of
• 23:34
  normalize
• 23:36
  having
• 23:36
  boundaries
• 23:37
  and
• 23:38
  recognizing
• 23:39
  that
• 23:41
  people
• 23:42
  can't
• 23:42
  do
• 23:43
  everything
• 23:44
  they
• 23:44
  want
• 23:44
  to
• 23:44
  do,
• 23:45
  they
• 23:45
  can't
• 23:46
  do
• 23:46
  everything
• 23:47
  you
• 23:47
  want
• 23:47
  them
• 23:48
  to
• 23:48
  do
• 23:49
  and
• 23:50
  that's
• 23:50
  okay.
• 23:51
  Like
• 23:51
  it's
• 23:52
  better
• 23:52
  for
• 23:52
  all
• 23:53
  of
• 23:53
  us.
• 23:54
  Exactly.
• 23:55
  Yeah.
• 23:56
  No
• 23:56
  is
• 23:57
  a
• 23:57
  complete
• 23:58
  sentence
• 23:58
  on
• 23:59
  both
• 23:59
  sides
• 23:59
  of
• 23:59
  the
• 24:00
  the
• 24:00
  equation,
• 24:01
  like
• 24:01
  receive
• 24:01
  that
• 24:02
  well,
• 24:02
  give
• 24:03
  that
• 24:03
  easily.
• 24:04
  Then
• 24:04
  know
• 24:05
  knowing
• 24:05
  your
• 24:05
  priorities
• 24:06
  so
• 24:06
  that
• 24:07
  you're
• 24:08
  not
• 24:08
  in
• 24:09
  agonizing
• 24:09
  over
• 24:10
  the
• 24:10
  decision
• 24:10
  and
• 24:11
  whether
• 24:11
  or
• 24:11
  not
• 24:11
  to
• 24:11
  say
• 24:11
  no.
• 24:12
  It
• 24:12
  can
• 24:12
  be
• 24:13
  right.
• 24:13
  Right?
• 24:14
  Yeah.
• 24:14
  Like
• 24:14
  you
• 24:14
  said
• 24:15
  earlier,
• 24:15
  just
• 24:17
  being
• 24:17
  clear
• 24:17
  about
• 24:18
  what's
• 24:18
  important
• 24:18
  to
• 24:19
  you
• 24:20
  and
• 24:20
  navigating
• 24:21
  by
• 24:21
  that,
• 24:22
  it,
• 24:23
  it
• 24:24
  never
• 24:24
  lets
• 24:25
  me
• 24:25
  down.
• 24:26
  That's
• 24:26
  true.
• 24:29
  So
• 24:29
  we
• 24:29
  would
• 24:30
  love
• 24:30
  to
• 24:30
  hear
• 24:31
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• 24:31
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• 24:32
  our
• 24:32
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• 24:33
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• 24:33
  watchers.
• 24:34
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• 24:34
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• 24:34
  have
• 24:35
  difficulty
• 24:36
  saying
• 24:36
  no?
• 24:37
  Do
• 24:37
  you
• 24:37
  feel
• 24:38
  comfortable
• 24:38
  about
• 24:39
  your
• 24:39
  boundaries?
• 24:40
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• 24:40
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• 24:41
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• 24:41
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• 24:41
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• 24:41
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• 24:42
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• 24:43
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• 24:43
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• 24:44
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• 24:49
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• 24:51
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• 24:52
  getting
• 24:52
  to
• 24:52
  goodenoughmail.com.
• 24:56
  that's
• 24:57
  right.
• 24:57
  That's
• 24:58
  right.
• 24:59
  Yeah.
• 24:59
  And
• 25:01
  you
• 25:01
  can
• 25:02
  leave
• 25:02
  us
• 25:02
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• 25:03
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• 25:03
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• 25:13
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• 25:13
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• 25:13
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• 25:13
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• 25:14
  Yeah,
• 25:15
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• 25:15
  know,
• 25:15
  that's
• 25:16
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• 25:16
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• 25:17
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• 25:17
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• 25:17
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• 25:17
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• 25:18
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• 25:21
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• 25:21
  mean
• 25:21
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• 25:22
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• 25:22
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• 25:23
  only
• 25:23
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• 25:24
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• 25:24
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• 25:28
  may
• 25:28
  or
• 25:29
  may
• 25:29
  not
• 25:29
  see
• 25:29
  it,
• 25:29
  but
• 25:30
  please
• 25:30
  send
• 25:30
  it.
• 25:33
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• 25:33
  for
• 25:33
  joining
• 25:34
  us
• 25:34
  on
• 25:34
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• 25:34
  to
• 25:35
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• 25:35
  Enough.
• 25:35
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• 25:35
  hope
• 25:36
  you
• 25:36
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• 25:36
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• 25:37
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• 25:37
  makes
• 25:37
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• 25:37
  life
• 25:38
  just
• 25:38
  a
• 25:38
  little
• 25:38
  bit
• 25:38
  easier.
• 25:39
  If
• 25:40
  you
• 25:40
  did,
• 25:40
  leave
• 25:41
  us
• 25:41
  a
• 25:41
  review
• 25:41
  or
• 25:42
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• 25:42
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• 25:42
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• 25:42
  someone
• 25:43
  who's
• 25:43
  looking
• 25:43
  for
• 25:44
  their
• 25:44
  own
• 25:44
  version
• 25:45
  of
• 25:45
  Good
• 25:45
  Enough.
• 25:45
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• 25:46
  for
• 25:46
  listening.
• 25:46
  See
• 25:47
  you
• 25:47
  soon.
• 25:56
  Can
• 25:57
  you
• 25:57
  not
• 25:57
  hear
• 25:57
  me?
• 25:58
  I
• 25:58
  stopped
• 25:59
  being
• 25:59
  able
• 25:59
  to
• 25:59
  hear
• 25:59
  you.
• 26:01
  Oh,
• 26:02
  that's
• 26:02
  so
• 26:02
  weird.
• 26:03
  What?
• 26:03
  At
• 26:04
  what
• 26:04
  point?
• 26:05
  There
• 26:05
  was
• 26:05
  a
• 26:05
  whole
• 26:05
  stretch
• 26:06
  there
• 26:06
  where
• 26:06
  I
• 26:06
  couldn't
• 26:06
  hear
• 26:07
  you
• 26:07
  before,
• 26:07
  but
• 26:07
  I
• 26:08
  was
• 26:08
  playing
• 26:08
  along.
• 26:09
  I
• 26:10
  mean,
• 26:10
  because
• 26:10
  we
• 26:11
  know
• 26:11
  each
• 26:11
  other
• 26:11
  really
• 26:11
  well.
• 26:12
  Spiking.
• 26:13
  Yeah,
• 26:13
  but.
• 26:15
  And
• 26:15
  I
• 26:15
  noticed
• 26:16
  from
• 26:16
  the
• 26:16
  thumbnails
• 26:17
  that
• 26:17
  it
• 26:18
  looks
• 26:18
  like
• 26:18
  I'm
• 26:18
  lecturing
• 26:19
  to
• 26:19
  you
• 26:19
  a
• 26:19
  lot
• 26:20
  anyway,
• 26:20
  so
• 26:23
  they
• 26:23
  all
• 26:23
  look
• 26:23
  like
• 26:24
  you're
• 26:24
  sitting
• 26:24
  there
• 26:25
  with
• 26:25
  a
• 26:25
  smile
• 26:25
  on
• 26:26
  your
• 26:26
  face
• 26:26
  and
• 26:26
  I'm
• 26:29
  talking.
• 26:31
  That's
• 26:31
  funny.