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The Tortured Poets Department (Part 2) · To All the Men I've Tolerated Before

• 0:22
  Speaker 1: Well, so, Elizabeth, you asked us another question and was
• 0:25
  Speaker 1: supposed to be the first question, what's the song that
• 0:27
  Speaker 1: you almost skip? And for me, it's always so long
• 0:31
  Speaker 1: London because I can't fuck with Joe Allwin at all.
• 0:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to fuck with Joe all In.
• 0:36
  Speaker 1: I go just like some boring white dude without a
• 0:39
  Speaker 1: job who was embarrassed to go to Chili's with you,
• 0:43
  Speaker 1: Like I cannot fuck with him.
• 0:46
  Speaker 2: Oh, so long London is like I just want to feel,
• 0:49
  Speaker 2: I just want to hurt more. So I just listened
• 0:51
  Speaker 2: to it again.
• 0:51
  Speaker 1: But then she got me with that huck because I
• 0:54
  Speaker 1: love that, like I was going down with it and
• 0:57
  Speaker 1: like that, who oh.
• 1:00
  Speaker 3: When I'm driving, I gripe.
• 1:02
  Speaker 2: I yes, I gripped my driving, my sharing me when
• 1:06
  Speaker 2: I'm driving on it, just because I feel it.
• 1:09
  Speaker 1: I just hunch back myself like I'm sinking, like yes,
• 1:13
  Speaker 1: because we've also been taught as women to endure. So
• 1:16
  Speaker 1: sure Joe was boring, and sure Joe was embarrassed of her,
• 1:21
  Speaker 1: and so and he kept her captive in a in
• 1:24
  Speaker 1: a cabin or a studio apartment in England.
• 1:27
  Speaker 4: Like she was like, but he's all I think he's
• 1:30
  Speaker 4: a really good example in her work anyway, like the
• 1:34
  Speaker 4: way that he's represented as like a muse and sort
• 1:36
  Speaker 4: of being throughout some of her songs as this like
• 1:40
  Speaker 4: seemingly not in the same way that's like aggressively gaslighting
• 1:44
  Speaker 4: like I'm everything you've ever needed, but he's just this
• 1:46
  Speaker 4: like sort of worn city as silent sort of like
• 1:51
  Speaker 4: toxicity where it's like someone can be so mediocre that
• 1:55
  Speaker 4: they sort of like slowly like drag you to that level.
• 1:58
  Speaker 4: And it doesn't always have to be passion or fiery.
• 2:01
  Speaker 4: Sometimes it can just be like in a quiet moment
• 2:03
  Speaker 4: of like like I've I've had we all have had
• 2:06
  Speaker 4: those relationships too, where it's like there's not like a
• 2:09
  Speaker 4: thing that's like a burning like so you think it's
• 2:13
  Speaker 4: healthy because like every magazine is like sometimes you just
• 2:16
  Speaker 4: need like by it, like it doesn't always have to
• 2:18
  Speaker 4: be like screaming, Oh, I'm reminded of. Another tale is
• 2:22
  Speaker 4: with the.
• 2:23
  Speaker 3: Like better safety stereoid.
• 2:26
  Speaker 4: Like that that passion can be toxic sometimes that you
• 2:30
  Speaker 4: look for these sort of like marshallow guys where it's like,
• 2:32
  Speaker 4: well then this will be safe, like I'm giving him
• 2:35
  Speaker 4: what he wants. This is the way society says it
• 2:37
  Speaker 4: should be. But like it's like it doesn't have to
• 2:39
  Speaker 4: be wrapped up in the explosive package. It could still
• 2:42
  Speaker 4: in the same.
• 2:43
  Speaker 1: Well because and I've said this till I was blue
• 2:46
  Speaker 1: in the face, it's never the angry in cells who
• 2:50
  Speaker 1: are gonna catch you unawares because they've already punched up
• 2:53
  Speaker 1: your entire house and they've already screamed at you in
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: front of your mom, and like people aren't like people
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: are aware. It's those quiet, sad sack ones. There's nothing
• 3:04
  Speaker 1: more dangerous than be There's nothing more dangerous to a
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: woman than being in a relationship with an ordinary man
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: when you are extraordinary. That's so good because they will
• 3:15
  Speaker 1: not they won't let you live.
• 3:18
  Speaker 4: They will of the like, uh, she's a lady in
• 3:23
  Speaker 4: the streets, but a freaking the bag, because that's not true.
• 3:25
  Speaker 5: We all know this, but like it's it is true
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  Speaker 5: that like what you're.
• 3:28
  Speaker 4: Saying, like sometimes the like quiet like inoffensive, nonviolent, like
• 3:36
  Speaker 4: presenting in this very beta male type of way, like
• 3:40
  Speaker 4: end up being Harry Harry styles and don't worry, darling,
• 3:44
  Speaker 4: like it's you know, sad like, which.
• 3:46
  Speaker 1: Is why I will go down in history saying that
• 3:49
  Speaker 1: Don't Worry Darling is a fucking great movie. It's a
• 3:52
  Speaker 1: fucking great movie, and y'all love that movie and you'll
• 3:55
  Speaker 1: all hate it because you gotta see it. It's unlike
• 3:59
  Speaker 1: Hulu or so thing.
• 4:01
  Speaker 3: Okay, do you have Lulu right now?
• 4:03
  Speaker 1: That's why I'll go down in history and be like,
• 4:05
  Speaker 1: y'all miss the mark when it came to don't Worry.
• 4:07
  Speaker 5: Save me room on that hill, because I will die
• 4:09
  Speaker 5: on it with you.
• 4:11
  Speaker 1: It's because you all realize that your boyfriends and your
• 4:13
  Speaker 1: husbands were fucking in.
• 4:14
  Speaker 4: Cells and you Really funny to me is how many
• 4:17
  Speaker 4: people love Midsummer and hate Don't Worry Darling.
• 4:19
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, that's funny because one was directed and
• 4:22
  Speaker 5: written by a woman.
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: For me, it's like because no one wants to look
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: at their husband and be like, all it will take
• 4:28
  Speaker 1: is five podcast episodes and you will decide that I'm
• 4:32
  Speaker 1: not worth having rights and I should not have credit
• 4:35
  Speaker 1: cards because like, it's not like Chris Pine showed up
• 4:39
  Speaker 1: to Harry styles basement.
• 4:41
  Speaker 4: This was a pretty cuel to Handmaid's Tale in a
• 4:43
  Speaker 4: way that like is like Twilight and Luis Twilight Zone.
• 4:47
  Speaker 1: You have it it's so good. I love I love
• 4:50
  Speaker 1: the theater because I went by myself on opening day
• 4:53
  Speaker 1: and I was like this pumping like the other two
• 4:56
  Speaker 1: women who were in the movie theater heard me taking notes,
• 4:58
  Speaker 1: just muttering to myself, Yeah, this is what I'm telling
• 5:01
  Speaker 1: bitches all the time that this is this is how easy,
• 5:04
  Speaker 1: this is, how how easy it is for them to
• 5:06
  Speaker 1: dehumanize us. When Taylor finally became public about dumping Joe Alwyn,
• 5:11
  Speaker 1: and women tried to flock to my message app to
• 5:14
  Speaker 1: be like this is so sad. He was the one.
• 5:17
  Speaker 1: I was like, number one, if you listen to Lover,
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  Speaker 1: it's a toxic.
• 5:20
  Speaker 4: Song, Like hey, there's a reason when she made playlists
• 5:25
  Speaker 4: about delusion.
• 5:26
  Speaker 1: Wait, I was like, this is what happened with fucking
• 5:29
  Speaker 1: Joe Alwin. She got out of his studio apartment on
• 5:33
  Speaker 1: Cornelius Street where he held her captive like a caged bird,
• 5:39
  Speaker 1: and she got onto the aerostur and she went, wait,
• 5:42
  Speaker 1: hold on, am I interesting? And is Joe boring? And
• 5:48
  Speaker 1: she didn't want to text him good night after the
• 5:50
  Speaker 1: aerostour and she didn't want to be like baby, I
• 5:51
  Speaker 1: did this and this and this, and he didn't want
• 5:54
  Speaker 1: to show up and watch it.
• 5:55
  Speaker 3: I go.
• 5:55
  Speaker 1: So she dumped him because she was like, I'm sorry,
• 5:58
  Speaker 1: is he inferior?
• 6:01
  Speaker 5: I mean I truly like that.
• 6:04
  Speaker 4: I hope that is what happened in her mind because
• 6:06
  Speaker 4: like it is the truth, and like to have the
• 6:10
  Speaker 4: most extravagant like she deserves exactly what's happening to her
• 6:16
  Speaker 4: right now, and like if it took that to be
• 6:19
  Speaker 4: like what a fucking master, Like I'm a queen. This
• 6:23
  Speaker 4: is like I have worked hard my entire fucking life
• 6:27
  Speaker 4: and given so much of myself to men, the men
• 6:29
  Speaker 4: who try to run my career, the men who try
• 6:32
  Speaker 4: to control my money, the men who date me leave me,
• 6:36
  Speaker 4: all the things, like I've given so much time and
• 6:38
  Speaker 4: energy to them. But look at what the fuck like
• 6:41
  Speaker 4: because she has talked about what happened to her in
• 6:45
  Speaker 4: a way that has made so many mostly men, really
• 6:48
  Speaker 4: upset about like she lures what bragrance were bigrants? When
• 6:52
  Speaker 4: did she have to call anybody out about it? Like okay, really,
• 6:57
  Speaker 4: like look at her now, why don't we all if
• 6:59
  Speaker 4: she is the blueprint, give me my clipboord and a microphone,
• 7:03
  Speaker 4: let me call him out.
• 7:05
  Speaker 1: I hate Joe Alwin, and I would tell Joe all
• 7:07
  Speaker 1: into his fucking face that I hate him and I
• 7:09
  Speaker 1: know he's boring and he probably well slander, but I can.
• 7:15
  Speaker 1: There is nothing more dangerous than to be an extraordinary
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: woman with an untalented, boring fuck of a man, and
• 7:21
  Speaker 1: especially when that man has decided that he should be
• 7:25
  Speaker 1: talented and a big deal.
• 7:26
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, you're gonna be a frog boiling to death.
• 7:28
  Speaker 5: You won't even realize the water is getting hotter.
• 7:30
  Speaker 1: They will. They will fucking ruin your life and be
• 7:34
  Speaker 1: a fake producer on your song so that they don't
• 7:37
  Speaker 1: have to get a real job. Dar say, what's your skip?
• 7:41
  Speaker 1: Because for me it's so long London?
• 7:42
  Speaker 3: Because I hate Joe, So I think my skip, honestly
• 7:47
  Speaker 3: is I can fix him. I really, no, really I can.
• 7:51
  Speaker 1: Oh I don't know what it is. Well, I know
• 7:53
  Speaker 1: what it is for you?
• 7:54
  Speaker 5: Well right right right?
• 7:56
  Speaker 2: I know?
• 7:57
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, maybe I can't right well, Because again I
• 8:03
  Speaker 1: am the biggest advocate of reminding women at all times
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: that whenever we uh be are be fallen with cancer
• 8:14
  Speaker 1: or a mental illness that will affect someone's every day
• 8:17
  Speaker 1: or whatever, men flee like they didn't like they didn't
• 8:21
  Speaker 1: have three kids with you and they never knew your
• 8:23
  Speaker 1: middle name.
• 8:25
  Speaker 5: I'm actually like I've seen that happen, yes, and like
• 8:28
  Speaker 5: actually in real time.
• 8:29
  Speaker 1: We all know, yeah, they will they ghost in the
• 8:34
  Speaker 1: middle like they've had a bad pack all along. And nurses, hospitals,
• 8:39
  Speaker 1: therapists will back this up with numbers if you want
• 8:42
  Speaker 1: to call them and ask them. But women have been
• 8:49
  Speaker 1: taught that they that men have flaws. It's our job
• 8:53
  Speaker 1: to endure those flaws. And in fact, if we don't
• 8:57
  Speaker 1: try to fix those.
• 8:58
  Speaker 4: Flaws, they have to influence it by your goodness.
• 9:01
  Speaker 1: Right and help him while he's down, then you didn't
• 9:04
  Speaker 1: love him enough, right, And.
• 9:07
  Speaker 3: That's insane, Like God forbid. Women take care of themselves first.
• 9:15
  Speaker 1: Love them.
• 9:16
  Speaker 5: It's not a value in our culture, truly.
• 9:19
  Speaker 4: That is not a thing that we or anybody that
• 9:25
  Speaker 4: has been taught, Like what do you say, like traditionally
• 9:28
  Speaker 4: the word mother, Like I read a statistic recently that
• 9:31
  Speaker 4: was like the number one word associated with the word
• 9:34
  Speaker 4: mother when asked by every age like gender, everything was selfless.
• 9:41
  Speaker 5: Think about that. You what you give your life to another? Yourself?
• 9:46
  Speaker 5: How do you take care of someone you can't? But
• 9:49
  Speaker 5: then it's your fault you were or not again, spouse.
• 9:53
  Speaker 1: Have you ever ended up on the side of TikTok
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: where a mom has like done something for herself like
• 9:56
  Speaker 1: that and a munichure or something, and someone's gone, where's
• 9:59
  Speaker 1: your kid? How much did that babysitter cost?
• 10:02
  Speaker 4: I've definitely been in this conversation, not the like the
• 10:05
  Speaker 4: kind of like you gotta be careful because like people
• 10:10
  Speaker 4: assume what you make for a living and see things
• 10:14
  Speaker 4: like even Neil's done, and then like maybe to a
• 10:17
  Speaker 4: client are like, oh my god, the price of childcare
• 10:20
  Speaker 4: or like how am I supposed to X y Z?
• 10:22
  Speaker 4: And like I have tattoos, Like I know, I can
• 10:24
  Speaker 4: see people doing math where it's like.
• 10:26
  Speaker 5: Okay, So.
• 10:28
  Speaker 4: Like I feel really uncomfortable now because like I just
• 10:31
  Speaker 4: it's it's easier to just not talk about right right right.
• 10:35
  Speaker 1: Because I'm a poor, broke bitch. Like I am broke.
• 10:38
  Speaker 4: I think we all are here and like mostly everywhere,
• 10:42
  Speaker 4: like right now, it's just kind of a weak but
• 10:45
  Speaker 4: like I can, I.
• 10:46
  Speaker 1: Can still turn up in Nashville with a themed out
• 10:49
  Speaker 1: fit for every fucking day.
• 10:51
  Speaker 5: Yeah, people were resourceful and like.
• 10:54
  Speaker 1: People are Natalie struggling and win and I'm.
• 10:57
  Speaker 4: Like okay, but also that's our job is to like
• 10:59
  Speaker 4: high the like the reality if it's a darker thing.
• 11:03
  Speaker 5: So like we're very good at that at going out
• 11:06
  Speaker 5: into society.
• 11:07
  Speaker 2: Because we've we've been conditioned to do it with a
• 11:12
  Speaker 2: broken heart, broken heart, keep you know.
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: Deep smiling, going fake it till you make it well.
• 11:19
  Speaker 1: And a big theme of this past year for me
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: is for me to call my mother scream crying because
• 11:27
  Speaker 1: a woman in my life has made me feel like
• 11:30
  Speaker 1: I either think that I'm better than myself than I am,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: or that like I'm doing better than them somehow, And
• 11:37
  Speaker 1: I'm literally just like cry screaming to my mom, like
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: what about my life, screams that I'm winning. I don't
• 11:44
  Speaker 1: have plentiful stable employment. It's me and this cat at
• 11:49
  Speaker 1: my house, Like no one wants to go out anymore.
• 11:53
  Speaker 4: We all because you're not crying in the street. It's
• 11:55
  Speaker 4: because you're not literally like begging for assistance or pity
• 11:58
  Speaker 4: or help from.
• 11:59
  Speaker 1: I'm dancing like my feathers and my world is on fire.
• 12:06
  Speaker 4: And like I feel like most women have adopted this
• 12:08
  Speaker 4: attitude of like what the fucking you do? What are
• 12:11
  Speaker 4: we not going to talk to each other? What are
• 12:12
  Speaker 4: we not going to like post memes. We're not going
• 12:14
  Speaker 4: to get her fucking nails polished. Would we give the
• 12:17
  Speaker 4: fuck up completely?
• 12:18
  Speaker 1: Hey, just in case no one's you're listening at home
• 12:21
  Speaker 1: and you're not paying for the patron. The entire theme
• 12:23
  Speaker 1: of the Patreon is and I'm miserable and no one
• 12:28
  Speaker 1: even knows, try to come for my job.
• 12:34
  Speaker 4: Eddy, and I like Chanted in the car. That's like
• 12:35
  Speaker 4: always the one she wants to listen to on the
• 12:37
  Speaker 4: way to school, and she's like like she's so goot,
• 12:41
  Speaker 4: so good, like I like, and no one even knows.
• 12:45
  Speaker 4: And it's like the try to come for my job
• 12:49
  Speaker 4: because you can't. I'm out dancing, I'm out hustling. No
• 12:52
  Speaker 4: no one to like put that in a song, like
• 12:58
  Speaker 4: literally not even it's not metaphorical. It's not dressed up
• 13:03
  Speaker 4: in any kind of like nothing, like there's no allequory.
• 13:07
  Speaker 4: It's like, fuck you because I'm still doing it. You
• 13:11
  Speaker 4: still want more. Then I get criticized for doing more.
• 13:14
  Speaker 4: So that's a whole other topic, but like watch how
• 13:17
  Speaker 4: well I do it.
• 13:18
  Speaker 1: It's that it's outline. I'm so depressed. I act like
• 13:23
  Speaker 1: it's my birthday every day, and it's like that's because
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: Dadi has never been It's like she wrote the song
• 13:28
  Speaker 1: based on my own life. I'm like, I'm not.
• 13:30
  Speaker 4: Allowed to have to Like it's amazing that universal like, yes.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, my birthday is on Christmas. I've never had a
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: birthday a day in my life. I have to pretend
• 13:39
  Speaker 1: like Wednesday is my birthday. I have to get myself
• 13:42
  Speaker 1: a little treat so I don't launch myself into the sea.
• 13:46
  Speaker 4: Well I love that line too, though, because it's like
• 13:49
  Speaker 4: I feel like it's very meta and almost like very layered,
• 13:52
  Speaker 4: because like, okay, so it's like I'm so depressed. I
• 13:56
  Speaker 4: act like it's my birthday every day, like you're so
• 14:00
  Speaker 4: it's performative on your birthday.
• 14:02
  Speaker 5: So often birthdays are fraught with like have you lost
• 14:04
  Speaker 5: a parent?
• 14:04
  Speaker 4: Have you like are there things people are missing in
• 14:07
  Speaker 4: your life because it's a loss or great like are
• 14:09
  Speaker 4: you grieving something?
• 14:10
  Speaker 2: Like?
• 14:10
  Speaker 5: So birthday these like markers or holidays can be obviously
• 14:14
  Speaker 5: like really difficult.
• 14:16
  Speaker 4: So almost I read that like immediately that line is
• 14:19
  Speaker 4: like I'm so depressed that I'm not even like showing
• 14:24
  Speaker 4: up like half trying on a Wednesday. I actually it's
• 14:27
  Speaker 4: my birthday and like someone's wearing me a supprise party
• 14:29
  Speaker 4: or like people are showing up, and I'd expected to
• 14:31
  Speaker 4: perform in this way that everyone can access, because even
• 14:34
  Speaker 4: when you're like twenty five and you're having a fucking
• 14:37
  Speaker 4: shit time because your boyfriend is an asshole, it's your
• 14:39
  Speaker 4: fucking birthday and you got to go to this place
• 14:41
  Speaker 4: and everyone's there and oh my god, Like that doesn't
• 14:44
  Speaker 4: like hit me so long where it's like.
• 14:46
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, it's so yes, everything is so performative,
• 14:49
  Speaker 6: because girlhood is bursting into tears the moment that you're
• 14:54
  Speaker 6: alone on your birthday before you even know why you're crying,
• 14:58
  Speaker 6: as you know, like.
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: Because my birthday is on Christmas, So Stephanie and I
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: will text, like this year I had to give like
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: bad news on Christmas because I myself received bad news
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: about my mother's help. So this is how I chose
• 15:12
  Speaker 1: to do that with my very best friend. Hey, have
• 15:15
  Speaker 1: the Christmas sad kicked in? And are we crying yet?
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: Or are we still pretending to have Christmas joy for
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: your kids? And then she went, I didn't even bother
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: to pretend to have Christmas joy for my kids this year.
• 15:32
  Speaker 4: Hit me with whatever you have to tell me That's
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: exactly what Taylor Swift is saying. It's like she's still
• 15:38
  Speaker 4: giving that level of like she is pretending because it's
• 15:41
  Speaker 4: for us.
• 15:42
  Speaker 1: It's for us, be right, because some people really do
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: have a mirror Christmas every year, and I don't want
• 15:47
  Speaker 1: to act like that.
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: We know that because of TV movies and like those
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: freaks that we know that we see actually enjoy it.
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: And like that's not to say there are not moments
• 15:56
  Speaker 4: you can be president that like are good memories are
• 15:58
  Speaker 4: like that?
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I do.
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: You enjoy in kids a new sort of thing to it,
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: but it does not erase. It does a melancholy and
• 16:04
  Speaker 4: straight up like like depression that like important events can
• 16:10
  Speaker 4: bring or trigger.
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: There's nothing that I hate more about the performative nature
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: of a birthday. I've been watching a kid open presence
• 16:18
  Speaker 1: in front of a group of fifteen adults and like
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: they just want to play with that first fucking barbie
• 16:24
  Speaker 1: that they opened, but you're shoving.
• 16:26
  Speaker 4: Listen, the purity of childhood and you have to chastise it.
• 16:30
  Speaker 4: I remember, like the minute my daughter, I think it
• 16:33
  Speaker 4: was her third birthday, that she really was like time
• 16:36
  Speaker 4: for present, Like I had to because yeah, to like
• 16:40
  Speaker 4: be like, well, do presents?
• 16:41
  Speaker 5: What else there? Like, I know that's why I said it.
• 16:43
  Speaker 5: I know that's what we're here. But then she'd open
• 16:45
  Speaker 5: something and be like.
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: I don't care who it's from, and I'm like that's
• 16:49
  Speaker 4: for me, and she's like whatever, and then like sees
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: it and I was like I already have this and
• 16:53
  Speaker 4: throws it away.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: I'm like, you'll never experience this again. Enjoy your two
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: or three.
• 17:00
  Speaker 3: This is it.
• 17:00
  Speaker 5: It's over.
• 17:01
  Speaker 4: After this, you're gonna have to smile and go give
• 17:04
  Speaker 4: them a hut and be like I don't have four
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: of these and that's the rest of your life.
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: I love this.
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: I don't. I used to have to choke down angel
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: food cake for my birthday every year because I don't
• 17:16
  Speaker 1: like angel food cake. But someone yep, and my family
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: did like angel food cake and made it for my
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: birthday every year, because surely I wouldn't have my own
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: tastes and desires, just.
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: These things that just like accidentally happened.
• 17:31
  Speaker 4: And then it's like you love pigs and you get
• 17:33
  Speaker 4: like eighty five figurines, You're like, I don't, No, I don't,
• 17:35
  Speaker 4: I don't.
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: I do I do love pigs.
• 17:38
  Speaker 5: I mean I do I do too, Yeah, Elizabeth, what's
• 17:41
  Speaker 5: your skip? Okay? So it was the manuscript.
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: Oh, I love the manuscript because I write a manuscript
• 17:50
  Speaker 1: every and then it.
• 17:52
  Speaker 5: Wasn't like it was like well, you know, like you
• 17:55
  Speaker 5: go through the phases of.
• 17:58
  Speaker 4: Listening to the album with as many tracks as there are,
• 18:01
  Speaker 4: where it's like I listened to all of it. Eventually
• 18:04
  Speaker 4: it was over a few days and then like was like, okay,
• 18:07
  Speaker 4: immediately returning to like the first five, and then like
• 18:10
  Speaker 4: I'd be like mmm mmmmm, okay, go to these like
• 18:13
  Speaker 4: other ones. I'd always like end up coming back around
• 18:15
  Speaker 4: to the like B sides in my mind. But the
• 18:17
  Speaker 4: manuscript I skipped, like for the first like probably twenty lessons,
• 18:21
  Speaker 4: I would skip it at the line.
• 18:24
  Speaker 5: About halfway into the.
• 18:25
  Speaker 4: First verset, like I was so like it was very
• 18:28
  Speaker 4: awkward to me at first, the one about like the
• 18:31
  Speaker 4: license and the organ donor and the hard and the like,
• 18:34
  Speaker 4: I was just like, what is that is this? Like
• 18:35
  Speaker 4: the foremanths are I don't know what's happening, but like
• 18:38
  Speaker 4: next because I want to go back to like the
• 18:39
  Speaker 4: Black Dog or whatever. And then I finally like when
• 18:43
  Speaker 4: it was like doing housework something and like it was playing,
• 18:46
  Speaker 4: I didn't have my phone bay, and I was like fine, whatever,
• 18:49
  Speaker 4: and it kept going and I was just like, oh, okay, yeah,
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: that totally like hits and like it's it's still one,
• 18:58
  Speaker 4: I think because it is very like on a nose
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: about like something we've all felt about dead relationships, that like,
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: that's not an easy listen for me, so I don't.
• 19:11
  Speaker 4: I still do kind of like I come to it,
• 19:14
  Speaker 4: you know, when I'm like in a very like introspective
• 19:18
  Speaker 4: mood and want to be very honest that things.
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: It's like she was like, hey, do you guys remember
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: when I thought I was when you thought I was
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: so sad during the ten minute all too well version?
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: May I introduce you to the man uscript?
• 19:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah?
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: Super seriously though, it is the kind of grown up
• 19:38
  Speaker 4: version and sentiment of that, like.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Well, do you guys go back and reread your journals? Yes? Oh,
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: every time I sit down to write in my journal,
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: I flip to a random page and reread something in
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: my journal.
• 19:51
  Speaker 5: I move a lot. Every time I've moved.
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: I like will grab random ones out of the boxes
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: and just do the same way to slip to a page.
• 19:56
  Speaker 5: And I'm like, god, damn, god.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Damn, and I think it's so important, and it was.
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: This was a lot of All Too Well for me too,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: where she's like, hey, there was good and there was bad,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: and sometimes you're just gonna get caught up in that.
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: I had someone who was in the midst of their
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: second marriage and their first partner had died, and they
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: were telling me, like, I it feels so bad to
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: be grieving the good parts when there were so many
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: bad parts and now I'm in a good spot, and
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: I'm like, but there were good parts, and maybe you
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: should listen to the ten minute version of All Too Well.
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: Like I'm always like, maybe do you have ten minutes?
• 20:43
  Speaker 5: When that does that to me?
• 20:43
  Speaker 4: That I like the this album came out right after
• 20:47
  Speaker 4: my second divorce and ended up being like super important
• 20:52
  Speaker 4: to me because of that sort of time in my life.
• 20:56
  Speaker 4: Are you trying to read Oh no, no, no, sorry,
• 21:00
  Speaker 4: I'm talking about uh is that Great American Last Free
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: American Dynasty? And yeah, well yeah folk wre man them dude, Okay,
• 21:09
  Speaker 4: so uh my tears Ricochet, that was all okay.
• 21:13
  Speaker 5: That song was the one that I was like, fuck,
• 21:17
  Speaker 5: like that is exactly how I feel.
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: And I used to get social angry, like the part
• 21:23
  Speaker 4: where she was like crossing out the good years because
• 21:27
  Speaker 4: like you want so badly when you're like burning something
• 21:30
  Speaker 4: down to your mind because you know it's not right
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: for you to reject every fucking good memory. It feels
• 21:38
  Speaker 4: not real. It feels like you were gaslighting yourself. It
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: feels like something you bought into that was a fucking lie.
• 21:43
  Speaker 4: But you know what, and my therapist is said this
• 21:45
  Speaker 4: a million times. Even if an entire relationship was a lie,
• 21:51
  Speaker 4: because they were a lie, you experienced that those moments
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: of happiness, even if it was a figment of your imagination,
• 21:59
  Speaker 4: that is a real feeling, and to pretend it didn't
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: exist is a you cannot process what happened to you.
• 22:06
  Speaker 4: You cannot just be great. The mind fuck, yeah, it
• 22:09
  Speaker 4: is the most intense mindfuck. But like for her to
• 22:13
  Speaker 4: just so like she's like laying things out, so just
• 22:16
  Speaker 4: like what what okay? Like but it's so pretty and
• 22:19
  Speaker 4: it's so like oh, and she just slips that line
• 22:21
  Speaker 4: in kind of at the end where I'm like, oh,
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: there weren't good years, what are you talking about?
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: We're mad, We're very mad, and ours.
• 22:28
  Speaker 4: Rigochet and like what the fuck are she'll do that
• 22:30
  Speaker 4: where she touches on this like it is very nuanced
• 22:33
  Speaker 4: and you need to have grace for yourself. And like
• 22:36
  Speaker 4: they experienced good times too, even if they are a lie,
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: even if the whole thing was fucking fake, every moment
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: they were comfortable or happy and Freendy was not a lie.
• 22:45
  Speaker 4: It was not because of you. It may have just
• 22:47
  Speaker 4: been a nice day outside or other things happen. And
• 22:50
  Speaker 4: now like y'all experienced joy parallel to one another, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 4: to like try to be like it was all poisoned
• 22:56
  Speaker 4: because it was to you for real is too discount.
• 23:00
  Speaker 4: Like you can't make yourself crazy by feeling like you
• 23:03
  Speaker 4: did make it all up like the like were you
• 23:06
  Speaker 4: sent by someone? No, they weren't. This is just a
• 23:08
  Speaker 4: shitty person.
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: Well number one. Now I kind of want to on
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: the Patreon read I wish I had my sad poem Turtle,
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: but I think I want to like do a whole
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: solo episode where I read the poem and then be like,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: this is why, this.
• 23:21
  Speaker 4: Is why you should have a panel with your favorite
• 23:23
  Speaker 4: guests co hosts, Like there were we all bring like
• 23:28
  Speaker 4: something we wrote in middle school, Yes, some type of
• 23:31
  Speaker 4: like it could be a journal untry or like a poem.
• 23:33
  Speaker 5: I have so many, it'll be fun.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: So many. But to me, it's always like I love
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: my tears for a cliche because to me, like she's
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: flipping it and she's like, what are you doing here, motherfucker?
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: To more me after you treated me like I almost
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: I almost went to Eras to our drag brunch, but
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: I ended up not feeling well, so I just wore
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: my era's T shirt. But I almost went in that
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: year for Halloween when I went as a black widow,
• 24:04
  Speaker 1: a woman who kills her husband's and is just in
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: permanent funeral garb So I almost got out all of
• 24:10
  Speaker 1: my like sexy funeral garb out and I was just
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: going to be the random mourner who's watching, like the
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: toxic boyfriend more and his wife at my tears Ricochet
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: like got me like whispering to people like why.
• 24:23
  Speaker 3: Is he here?
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Like who called him? But I yeah, the manuscript man
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: it because again, like I'm kind of going through that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: right now, just knowing that, like I'm gonna have to
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: make a big change in location soon, so I'm like,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: why do I need to leave the house. I no
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: longer have to invest into this and uh yeah, grief
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: is a bitch, man. I love that somma mean uscript though,
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: because I am a ruminator and I will just like
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: read my old journals and be like I remember when
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I felt like that, let's do it all again, baby,
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: Like it's.
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: A drag on a cigarette you do sort of exactly
• 25:04
  Speaker 4: I was wout to say. It's like you don't smoke anything.
• 25:06
  Speaker 4: I don't know this life because I sole very muchoke,
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: but like it's like I have quit before, and it's
• 25:10
  Speaker 4: like truly when you find an old back of cigarettes
• 25:12
  Speaker 4: and you're like, oh, dumb sake, even though it hurts
• 25:15
  Speaker 4: so good, Like it's almost as like a reminder. It's
• 25:19
  Speaker 4: like you're pricking your finger to see if you's so bleed,
• 25:22
  Speaker 4: like you are so human.
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: I don't know if this is like if what this
• 25:27
  Speaker 3: says about me.
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: I did talk about it and in therapy before, but
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: like I would destroy everything that I wrote, and I
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: don't have anything like I I.
• 25:39
  Speaker 3: Have stuff now, you know now I wouldn't but maybe
• 25:42
  Speaker 3: burn something.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: I would do that you know, a whole, like some
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: type of sentance with that would be wonderful. But I
• 25:51
  Speaker 2: hate that I don't have it was like some type
• 25:53
  Speaker 2: of like sense.
• 25:54
  Speaker 4: Of like embarrassment too, Like it was almost like you
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: wanted to protect yourself from like the memory.
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: Nobody can read this. Yes, yes, secretly.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Do you know why I never destroy anything that I
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: write about my talk when you're dead you want? Yes,
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: I want my nephew to have to go through my
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: stuff after I'm dead and be like, Wow, aunt Namley
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: was deep.
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: She was so fucking talented.
• 26:22
  Speaker 5: Absolutely, I.
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: Want them to simponian.
• 26:28
  Speaker 4: I want them to embarrassing or is it going to
• 26:30
  Speaker 4: prove to every fucking hater like how hard I suffered
• 26:35
  Speaker 4: and how amazing it was that I did show up
• 26:36
  Speaker 4: the sixth grade looking as cute as I did.
• 26:38
  Speaker 5: I'm like so on top of my shirt because like
• 26:40
  Speaker 5: shit happened to me.
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: God damn. Aunt Nadley really went through it.
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: Like people are like, girl, I'll go to your house
• 26:50
  Speaker 4: and like, get all your ship out of your closet.
• 26:52
  Speaker 3: If you don't leave it, leave it.
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: Post it online and tag those motherfuckers who are who
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: are named exactly right you post it on. In fact,
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: my entire eulogy will be you reading tea from my
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: journals when kicking people out of the funeral, so you
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: can go, you can go. I love those like videos
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: of that, like for this tape I'm my friend's funeral.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: She didn't even like you.
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: She don't even like you. She don't even like you.
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I had a very meta question to ask people. Okay,
• 27:30
  Speaker 1: so in loss on the prophecy, here's my very meta question,
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: very deep. So when my nephew finds this on iTunes,
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: he can be like, damn aunt Nelly got it. She's
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: it's a woman, and she's like, please, can it once
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: be me? And can we rewrite the prophecy? And like,
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: because I'm Cassandra, like those songs to me are sisters,
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: And because I'm Cassandra, I'm like, oh my god, yes,
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: all the time, there's always some identity or some prophecy
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: or some fate put on me that's not my choice
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: and is not my invention. And I'm always trying to
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: like outrun it and scream at people, this is not
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: who I am, this is this isn't what I want.
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: Can we can we try again?
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: God?
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: Or Taro or the devil, like, can we try it again?
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: The prophecy I would change would be being generally hot
• 28:30
  Speaker 4: to white men.
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: Yeah, hell yeah. I don't want white men to look
• 28:34
  Speaker 1: at me anymore.
• 28:35
  Speaker 5: But I have blond hair and blue eyes and like that.
• 28:38
  Speaker 4: It's been a I used to be like it's a
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: blessing and curse to be celebrating.
• 28:43
  Speaker 5: So it's just a fucking curse. It kind of really is.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: And I hate to be like one of those like
• 28:48
  Speaker 4: you're allowed to be hot, that just happens. I can't
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: even like what, I'm not gonna curl my hair, I'm
• 28:54
  Speaker 4: not gonna put a bag on my head. I'm still
• 28:55
  Speaker 4: gonna like get my nails done, but like for that
• 28:58
  Speaker 4: to be the default that like, it does not mean
• 29:02
  Speaker 4: a person is like I see something interesting in you,
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: I come up and be like I would like to
• 29:06
  Speaker 4: talk to you.
• 29:07
  Speaker 5: It is just do you have a wiener?
• 29:09
  Speaker 4: Then that is going to happen, and then you git
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: to pretend to be whatever you want to me And
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: depending on my mood or situationship or what's in my system,
• 29:19
  Speaker 4: I might entertain it.
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: And because I was telling Darcy that, like, is really
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: big of you to admit that you didn't like you
• 29:27
  Speaker 1: actively didn't speak to me for four months, where I
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: was like, Darcy, I knew that I knew what was happening,
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: but of course I knew, but I knew you did,
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: ye right, And that's why our friendship can still sustain
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: because that it's what ends up happening.
• 29:44
  Speaker 2: You know what it is?
• 29:45
  Speaker 5: It is we know those men are going to fucking
• 29:48
  Speaker 5: destroy and leave us.
• 29:49
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and as shitty as it is, we're correct and
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: assuming that we can go through this bullshit in Delululand
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: and like the real ones like you are going.
• 29:59
  Speaker 5: To be there on the other side of it.
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: Well, and I refuse to let you guys feel like
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: it's your fault. Like I'm like, it's not their fault, like,
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: and we're going to get to it when we talk
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: about the criticism of the album or whatever. But it's
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: like it's never our fault, Like we didn't build this system,
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: we didn't perpetuate it. And I was telling you, like
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: I was trying to be brave about it, and I
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: was like, and you know, it doesn't hurt my feelings,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: And then I'm like, that's a lie. I've screamed about
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: it before and like cried and be like and like
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: done the whole Katie Maloney thing where I like, wake
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: up and I have no friends and I'm like, really,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: just because I was honest, Like yeah, And the thing
• 30:35
  Speaker 1: of it is is now all of the tailor now,
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: all of the Taylor Swift songs aren't even about an
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: ex boyfriend to me about anymore. They're about misogyny and
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: patriarchy and all of it. So when I'm singing them,
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm doing my own Broadway like twisted contorted body motions.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: My face doesn't even look like my face anymore because
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: I'm so angry that we're still in the system and
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: even me doing all of the work that removed me
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: from it because I love you guys, it still gets
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: like it still hits and it still hurts, and like
• 31:15
  Speaker 1: it's the same with my mom and my aunt and
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: older woman in my life, where I'm like, it sucks
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: so much that like I can do all of the
• 31:22
  Speaker 1: I can never meet another new man again.
• 31:26
  Speaker 4: It's the reason that like I literally stayed up till
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: four am in the aftermath of some woman named Patty
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: calling me me God bless her. I guess like it
• 31:36
  Speaker 4: was like I'm putting the daughter down and I just
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: get a freaking Facebook call and like my entire world
• 31:45
  Speaker 4: was over, Like it was like that's it, that's how
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: you see this. But like y'all like you doing this,
• 31:53
  Speaker 4: those are whistleblowers. Just the people that end up like
• 31:56
  Speaker 4: talked to her and made a human out of this
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: that like was the harb and like literally was the
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: messenger of like everything you thought was real, it's not,
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: and like it will happen in three seconds like there,
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: I don't know how to sugarcoat it, like this is
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: what's going on, and like that happening, and the people
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: who are those truth tellers like that actual fucking whistleblowers,
• 32:18
  Speaker 4: not the like when it's cute or convenient or you're
• 32:21
  Speaker 4: gonna get airtime about it, but like the like it's
• 32:23
  Speaker 4: very inconvenient and it's going to brand you as like
• 32:27
  Speaker 4: a thing that like you're choosing to be for the
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: greater goods.
• 32:31
  Speaker 5: Like that's like.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: It's fucking important, and I like, I think there's a
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: real fucking reason that, Like every guy I've ever been
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: involved with is more than happy to listen to the
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: Zombie Girls when I'm on it or like I'll send
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: them like the Birds unplug it up, like holler to
• 32:48
  Speaker 4: both those podcasts like Friends and Awesome, you know, like
• 32:53
  Speaker 4: they're doing great stuff like every woman speaking out in
• 32:56
  Speaker 4: a space where it's not somewhere we're necessary welcome, necessarily
• 33:00
  Speaker 4: like doing the good work. But like there is a
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: reason that when I send the episode that I'm on
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: your show, like I've never got I don't think a
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: man besides Eric newall of bloody Good Horror, because it
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: was a dynamic and a relationship to support each other creatively,
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: and like I really appreciate people who show up that
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: way that like on the whole men pretend I didn't
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: send it to them and say nothing about it, or
• 33:31
  Speaker 4: they are like Rob the recent ax that I recorded
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: an episode at his at our house, it was the
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: one about raising girls himself, and every moment of preparation
• 33:45
  Speaker 4: for that was underscored by him in the background being like, white,
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: who's this now. I'm like, you kind of met her
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: like on way back, but like here's what I'm doing.
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: This is what we're talking about, and he was like, sweet, okay,
• 34:01
  Speaker 4: so this is like a fuck you white man, especially
• 34:05
  Speaker 4: the South kind of thing, and I was like, yeah, yeah,
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: it's like do you have a problem with that, because
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: then I have a problem with you because you all
• 34:12
  Speaker 4: deserve this.
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: I do want to, like talk about it as an
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: official point of the episode where it's like women like
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: me and Taylor Swift hurt the feelings of men will
• 34:21
  Speaker 1: never meet.
• 34:22
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like and thank you, because like, you've hurt the
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: feeling of men that, like I've known that won't even
• 34:30
  Speaker 4: fucking engage with it. It hurts their feelings that this
• 34:34
  Speaker 4: even exists exactly.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: I think that's why. I mean, if only I could
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: be ridiculed in the press like Taylor Swift, because then
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: I knew I was like hurting their feelings on a
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: mass scale, like on a on an earth shattering level.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: But like, yeah, we hurt the feelings of.
• 34:51
  Speaker 4: Men who will never meet because do I meaning that
• 34:54
  Speaker 4: your feelings don't get hurt in the process of the mission?
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you know I and I and I think
• 35:01
  Speaker 1: that's like something new that I've been processing, Like there
• 35:04
  Speaker 1: is a cost to me doing what's best for me
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: by not allowing men in my home.
• 35:11
  Speaker 5: But not just what's best for you.
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: Because you have a microphone in front of your face
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: right now, anybody can cut off men like you're the
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: rallying cry.
• 35:20
  Speaker 5: Of like why you should?
• 35:22
  Speaker 3: Yeah, dude, Natalie, I just want to say, oh God,
• 35:25
  Speaker 3: you know it's good.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Like I just want to like thank you because you
• 35:31
  Speaker 2: said to me when I told you guys that I
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: was scared about this album like eighteen years, like doesn't
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: have to be the rest of your life.
• 35:38
  Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to start to cry. I know, yeah, yeah,
• 35:42
  Speaker 3: I like no one said that to me, you know,
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: and like.
• 35:46
  Speaker 2: Without me, they like until I said that I wanted
• 35:50
  Speaker 2: to leave, you know what I mean, And like, I
• 35:52
  Speaker 2: just I'm really glad you said that right now.
• 35:55
  Speaker 1: Well, because like I was telling Darcy, I was like,
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: the reason why it hurts my feelings is the most
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: because I don't want to go to your guys's funerals,
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: and like I know that men kill, like and that's
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: what it always boils down in my mind too, that
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: I'm like, weaker women who didn't speak up got killed
• 36:11
  Speaker 1: over shit like this, and like you guys will slip
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: up and say something or be listening to my show
• 36:17
  Speaker 1: on the rawn due or repeat something that I said
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: or whatever, and like at the end of the day,
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: I'm like, it's unsafe for us to be this ingrained
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: in the lives of them.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: But do you know what is safe and what is
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: the total safe space is this happening right now, and
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: I think it's worth any listeners knowing that, like because
• 36:40
  Speaker 4: of things like this podcast, like we talk every day,
• 36:43
  Speaker 4: the three of us, and like, honest to God, like
• 36:48
  Speaker 4: there have been more than a few times that like
• 36:52
  Speaker 4: that threat is the first time I verbalize a thing
• 36:55
  Speaker 4: that like I definitely know is true, but that like
• 37:00
  Speaker 4: I don't know, like I need some.
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: Type of emotional encouragement I guess to like really act
• 37:08
  Speaker 5: on in my real life.
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: Well, And I'm also coming to terms with the fact that,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: like breakups with men never affected me very hard, Like
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: they would just leave and I'd be like fine, And
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: that was probably the strongest indicator that I was queer,
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: because I let them fuck me when I wanted them to,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: when they wanted to fuck me, and then when they
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: were done fucking me, I was like, fine, Okay, I
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: guess this is over, and I'd have like little to
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: know feelings about it, and so like I realized that
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: I have very little skin in the game compared to
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: a woman who's in a marriage or a woman who
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: co signed on something with a man and tighter money
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: to it. Like there's a safety to my life because
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: I never put my name on paper with a man
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: and so yeah, I can say on my high hers
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: all day longer and be like, I can't believe that
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you guys are still have husbands.
• 38:03
  Speaker 3: But I also know.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: It's unfair as one of like your closest friends.
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, if it's mutual, like you're one of my
• 38:11
  Speaker 4: closest friends, Like, it's unfair to not give you the
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: chance to have grace for it and all being your fault.
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: And I think that speaks to the absolute like how
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: deep just the shame that they instill in you.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: Yeah, from go is like I didn't.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: I knew how like internally, I knew how fucked the
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: whole situation was, but I didn't know how to like
• 38:37
  Speaker 4: undo that conditioning. And I knew that like sharing that
• 38:40
  Speaker 4: with somebody who there are no smoke and mirrors, like
• 38:47
  Speaker 4: it's a shattering of an illusion. But it also is
• 38:50
  Speaker 4: very unfair to not trust you, especially you to understand
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: that it is that and not treat that kindly and
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: with grace too. Like, so I think that like a
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: big part of your show that we don't necessarily underlining
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: often is like that, it's like showing truly behind the scenes,
• 39:10
  Speaker 4: like what those relationships look like where it's not just
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: about holding people accountable, it's not just about like whistle blowing,
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: it's about having empathy for the process of everyone getting
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: to the point where we're all fucking like actually fucking
• 39:25
  Speaker 4: done with it, because that is not something that happens overnight.
• 39:28
  Speaker 4: It's not like an eight is like you have to
• 39:30
  Speaker 4: go through every lever of alphabet and like it's hard
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: as fuck. But it's people like you that stand by
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: every phase of that and like show what it looks
• 39:38
  Speaker 4: like to be on the other side of it. That
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: like it's like motivational in a way that like I
• 39:42
  Speaker 4: don't know you'll ever understand as someone who's already where
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: you are.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, well, that's really fucking sweet. It's mostly because guys
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: didn't want to fuck me for very long, Like I've
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: had it very easy.
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: Honestly, they couldn't handle it, and we benefit from that.
• 39:57
  Speaker 4: So but no, it's like, and that's what it always
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: boils down to, like if I could be the one
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: person just screaming at you all day, he sucks until
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: you hate me. But it also means that you get
• 40:10
  Speaker 4: to live to seventy five unless the water wars come like, yeah,
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: then you get to live till seventy five and hopefully
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: I'm there too. But yeah, I think that's been It's
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: been a.
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: Really big shift for me, like understanding that, like the
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: reason why I'm so lonely, the reason why Katie Maloney
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: is so lonely is because we won't endure anymore. And
• 40:34
  Speaker 1: the I shouldn't just say that Katie Maloney's lonely. I
• 40:37
  Speaker 1: don't know her actual fucking life, but to me it
• 40:40
  Speaker 1: felt like a very lonely season for her. I saw
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: so much of myself and her this season. But yeah,
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the reason why we burned which we burned women and
• 40:52
  Speaker 1: called them witches, is because they knew that if we
• 40:54
  Speaker 1: stood in groups of three and got to talking, they
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to beat us anymore.
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: And I think because of the nature of what it
• 41:01
  Speaker 4: was to be a woman, it was scary to even
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: consider that because then what we've been taught nothing, What
• 41:07
  Speaker 4: would we do then what happens the day after the
• 41:10
  Speaker 4: final girl survives and our whole fucking world is gone
• 41:12
  Speaker 4: where It's.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Like, misogyny is bad for female friendships on on purpose,
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: on purpose.
• 41:20
  Speaker 5: Mad style style, it's not good to let us gather
• 41:23
  Speaker 5: and discuss.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: They they do not want us to be friends. It's
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: why they demonized gossip and demonized anything that women would
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: enjoy doing together in.
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: A large group, Like and gossip is just telling the truth.
• 41:36
  Speaker 4: I'm sorry, Like I've realized this recently. It's just adults
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: in a group being like this happened, this happened, but
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: women saying the truth is it's a game. It's just
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: like stupid, it's gossip, Like these words that get assigned
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: to it where it's like, what are men in a
• 41:50
  Speaker 4: corner talking about Joe got fired and like Maddie's an
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: asshole and a racist?
• 41:56
  Speaker 5: What's that called.
• 41:58
  Speaker 3: The truth?
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's this whole idea of like I I
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: don't want it to be my fault that misogyny made
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: it really hard for me to have friends, Like I
• 42:12
  Speaker 1: don't want to just get tired and be like, well
• 42:14
  Speaker 1: fuck it, you all sucking your stupid and I try,
• 42:17
  Speaker 1: Like I don't want to be God telling Moses he
• 42:20
  Speaker 1: can't go to the Promised Land because he had a
• 42:22
  Speaker 1: rock one time, that old Testament. God and I not friends,
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: Like I mean, I don't think he has anyone right honestly,
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: Like I like, that's not who I want to be
• 42:34
  Speaker 1: because then that it like everyone thought that like men
• 42:37
  Speaker 1: were winning, when I was like, I'm not fucking men anymore.
• 42:39
  Speaker 1: I only want to say women. And they were like,
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: is it that letting the bad boyfriends win? I go, No, Actually,
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: not getting to fuck me means that all men lose,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: and like, but to me, the patriarchy winning is me
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: not being understanding when you ghost me for four months,
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: but it's because you're not ready to shore wait, so.
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: Is at the flip side of that is like being
• 43:04
  Speaker 4: a woman who does still entertain the idea of fucking
• 43:06
  Speaker 4: men if you dare just wait and if it's more
• 43:10
  Speaker 4: than one, or if they know each other, like if
• 43:12
  Speaker 4: anything happens where it's like you're having fun infringes on
• 43:18
  Speaker 4: their situation or plans, you are fun. I mean it's
• 43:25
  Speaker 4: your whole. I mean there's no equivalent for males in
• 43:28
  Speaker 4: the same situation, but it's fuck like you lose your winner,
• 43:32
  Speaker 4: Like there's no way to win because you either avoid
• 43:34
  Speaker 4: men altogether and like exactly what you're talking about happens
• 43:39
  Speaker 4: where you could be a pariah on both sides of
• 43:41
  Speaker 4: the gender wars, or you just are like, I'm gonna
• 43:44
  Speaker 4: do what I want to do, and sometimes that includes
• 43:46
  Speaker 4: fucking men, and maybe it doesn't include marrating them. Yeah,
• 43:50
  Speaker 4: then that's a whole nother fucking fight you're going to
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: have to engage in.
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: Well.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: And I think the prophecy that I'm always trying to
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: outrun and be like, no, it doesn't have to is
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: a girlhood is suffering. Being a woman is innately suffering,
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: and that our suffering is okay, And it's okay if
• 44:10
  Speaker 1: we're suffering and the doctor goes, I don't know, women
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: get crampy, or it's okay that they're you know, they're
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: mean to us, but they're not hitting us. So therefore
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: that's something like I think I'll know that my work
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: is done when I don't see where I get to
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: watch women be happy and that be the norm instead
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: of just like, yeah, make less money, who cares? Yeah,
• 44:35
  Speaker 1: he guess let you and love bombed you. Whatever you
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: got free dinners out of it.
• 44:39
  Speaker 4: If I am told one more time, truly by women,
• 44:43
  Speaker 4: that everyone gets cheated on after what happened to me,
• 44:47
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna fucking lose it. No one should get cheated on.
• 44:52
  Speaker 4: How about that's noting, yeah, that you know, it's just
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: excusing the behavior and women to me encompasses everything.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: It's trans women, it's non binaris, it's anyone who isn't
• 45:03
  Speaker 1: a white guy. Honestly, at this point, late and I
• 45:10
  Speaker 1: know that we're on the brink of Handmaid's tail because
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: they're getting scared because we have TikTok and women are
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: now putting the nest footage of their man beating the
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: shit out of them on TikTok Andy.
• 45:25
  Speaker 3: It's like a whole TikTok murders. Yeah, that's it's wild.
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: That's just wild. Well, what's wild is when you when
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: when you call or a neighbor calls a domestic dispute
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: on your house, and the nest is recording the cops
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: berating the woman. Meanwhile Homie's just still punching walls or
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: locked in the bathroom or something, and she's like, yeah,
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: he was literally choking me against the wall, and they're like,
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: they hurt you screaming though I think he'd like.
• 45:55
  Speaker 2: You were loud, right, It's like, you need the evidence
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: for them to believe you, but even then video.
• 46:05
  Speaker 1: But then when you present the nest as an evidence,
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: they're like.
• 46:11
  Speaker 3: Is that really what happened before you hit record?
• 46:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, that's literally the prophecy that I'm out running.
• 46:18
  Speaker 1: Is that, like, oh, to be a woman is to
• 46:19
  Speaker 1: be in pain? Is that stupid biblical eve Aiden apple? Shit,
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: a bitch took a bite out of one macatosh apple
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: and I gotta have period pramps every month. That doesn't
• 46:30
  Speaker 1: make sense. I don't like it. I don't believe it.
• 46:35
  Speaker 1: I would like to change the prophecy.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: And I would like to change that prophecy.
• 46:38
  Speaker 4: I would like to.
• 46:39
  Speaker 1: Change that prophecy. I would like I would like for
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: every woman and it was written and as above, so
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: below the power of three will set us free?
• 46:51
  Speaker 5: Uh under?
• 46:55
  Speaker 1: But yeah, like that. I wish that more women were taught.
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Like I was just a weirdo kid who like drewk
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: mythology and stumbled upon the myth of Cassandra. I think
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: every woman should be taught.
• 47:07
  Speaker 4: What's funny is like the islands we lived on were
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: not so far from one another, because like I watched
• 47:12
  Speaker 4: door movies obsessively from the time as a child, and
• 47:16
  Speaker 4: like it's very similar where like anytime like a man
• 47:20
  Speaker 4: seems sketch or we were in a situation where it
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: was like, I don't know, this seems like not safe
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: or weird, like in my mind, main characters syndrome again,
• 47:27
  Speaker 4: I was the final girl and like, yeah, people don't
• 47:31
  Speaker 4: want to hear like this might not be right.
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah. The entire horror genre is built on
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: a woman's mythology. It's like great, yeah, Like it truly
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: is like strip it all down. It's very like the
• 47:43
  Speaker 1: morality tales of like Freeze Shakespeare. Yeah, it's a woman
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: being like I don't think we should go in that barn,
• 47:50
  Speaker 1: and then some guy being like I don't want to
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: be in the rain.
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: Then they get murdered in that barn until they started
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: like inverting tropes. Yeah, that truly is like there's a
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: reason there's a floods story in every culture. There's a
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: reason so many movies. It's like the woman being like
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: I think this is weird, and literally everyone no, it's
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: fine because we're we need to keep the parade on
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: because we're going to make money or whatever. Jaws like
• 48:17
  Speaker 4: the Fourth of July is too important. It's always like
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: comes doAnd to like patriarchal corporate bullshit.
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: Jersey, what was the prophecy that I changed mine because
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: of what you all said, and I was like, oh,
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: my old prophecy was that, Like, for since I could speak,
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: the label that has been put on me is that
• 48:39
  Speaker 1: I am dramatic and I am selfish, and I only
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: use my talents to get my way and when I
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: don't get my way, I can't even remember the last
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: time I threw a tantrum, and yet everyone acts like
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: I throw a diva opera level tantrum every time I
• 48:58
  Speaker 1: near them. But like that happened from when I was
• 49:01
  Speaker 1: very small. Anytime I had a feeling, why are you
• 49:04
  Speaker 1: trying to ruin today? Any like again, I had to
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: do it with a broken heart or else I was
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: like not going to be able to eat that day. Well,
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: no one wants to go to lunch with someone.
• 49:16
  Speaker 4: Who's pouting, and girls like me, like I think very
• 49:19
  Speaker 4: early I was like, I have a feeling I'm going
• 49:22
  Speaker 4: to be very mentally ill, and I don't have the
• 49:24
  Speaker 4: bandwidth to like keep speaking out that every best friend
• 49:28
  Speaker 4: I ever had was you. I always gravitated to these
• 49:32
  Speaker 4: like truth telling sixth graders that like I would cower
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: behind it, like truly would just be like I'm.
• 49:36
  Speaker 5: Gonna ride the protails of your emotional maturity. I don't
• 49:38
  Speaker 5: know what to do, but like you're telling men off
• 49:40
  Speaker 5: and you're seven, so like, yeah, oh, I was.
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Not totally men off. When I was seven. I was
• 49:48
  Speaker 1: laying in bed screaming that saw nobody likes me, everybody
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: hates me. I guess I'll go eat worse. Yeah, at
• 49:58
  Speaker 1: any inconvenience.
• 50:00
  Speaker 5: I wasn't screaming anything, so like I was like mystified.
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: No, I didn't start Why didn't start sticking up to
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: them until I hit like probably thirty? This is a
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: very When did I start this?
• 50:13
  Speaker 3: Really?
• 50:13
  Speaker 5: The fact that you were a loud child speaks otherwise.
• 50:16
  Speaker 1: Mercy, what's the prophecy that you're trying to run from?
• 50:19
  Speaker 3: My prophecy that I'm trying to run from. I feel
• 50:23
  Speaker 3: like very literally lived that song, you know, and it
• 50:31
  Speaker 3: kind of I left a situation that I was in
• 50:36
  Speaker 3: for a very long time and because I was actually
• 50:41
  Speaker 3: I'm going to quote vaccine from the ex trilogy that I.
• 50:47
  Speaker 1: Will not hoping. I am saying it too.
• 50:50
  Speaker 2: Loved it, loved it, loved it so much, but I
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: will not accept a life I don't deserve. And I
• 50:59
  Speaker 2: honestly like left the movie thinking I'm gonna get that
• 51:03
  Speaker 2: tattooed on me because I feel like that's like the
• 51:08
  Speaker 2: only other words I have.
• 51:09
  Speaker 3: I lived deliciously from the Witch and yeah, and I
• 51:14
  Speaker 3: just I was, like, I feel like I.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Need that because I feel like I've grown a lot
• 51:20
  Speaker 2: in my decent dissentering men and misogyny for my life
• 51:24
  Speaker 2: and like I just want I've known, I've come to
• 51:32
  Speaker 2: terms with what I deserve and what I don't deserve,
• 51:36
  Speaker 2: and I also need to find like some like fulfilling
• 51:40
  Speaker 2: within myself without like I think I've always dependent on
• 51:43
  Speaker 2: another I'm like my partner, another person to make me happy,
• 51:48
  Speaker 2: or that I like was dependent on their happiness, Like
• 51:53
  Speaker 2: it's that codependency, Like I really don't want to ever
• 51:58
  Speaker 2: be in a situation like that, but also like acknowledging
• 52:01
  Speaker 2: that that comes from abandonment and like always being let
• 52:04
  Speaker 2: down honestly, like always being let out by men. I've
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: been let down by every man that's in my life
• 52:08
  Speaker 2: pretty much, and like I'm at a point now how
• 52:11
  Speaker 2: that in one of my friends brought up her her
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: boyfriend that I am not, you know, a fan of
• 52:18
  Speaker 2: and bringing him back into my life and and.
• 52:20
  Speaker 1: I said, I'm not.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: Honestly, I have too much more bring, like anybody new
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: into my life, but especially a man, I'm not comfortable.
• 52:30
  Speaker 3: I don't trust them. I don't want any men that
• 52:35
  Speaker 3: I don't already know.
• 52:36
  Speaker 2: I mean, obviously I've hung out with I'm a big
• 52:38
  Speaker 2: wrestling fan, you know, so like I hate watch wrestling
• 52:40
  Speaker 2: with dudes and like that, like the people I know
• 52:43
  Speaker 2: and that can enjoy I can enjoy time with without
• 52:46
  Speaker 2: like remembering that they're men or I mean.
• 52:49
  Speaker 3: Actually probably you do experience that too with wrestling, but
• 52:52
  Speaker 3: it's not the same the same ship.
• 52:54
  Speaker 2: But yeah, I just I think I'm like ready to
• 52:59
  Speaker 2: leave in my past, I full on, I came out
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: as by a few years ago, and I don't know
• 53:08
  Speaker 2: that that's even really gonna be the case in the
• 53:11
  Speaker 2: long term. I mean, I don't really know. Once I
• 53:13
  Speaker 2: start dating, I'm sure maybe things will will change. But yeah,
• 53:18
  Speaker 2: I just don't like them. They can just go away
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: and leave me alone. That's my prophecy, men, leave me alone.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: You are more than welcome to come and grey gardens
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: up with Annie and I when we finally take it
• 53:32
  Speaker 1: to the woods. Yeah, to the woods, and no one
• 53:36
  Speaker 1: hears from us ever again.
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Right I'm out.
• 53:41
  Speaker 2: I will say, really, my cousin did say to me before,
• 53:46
  Speaker 2: and it kind of makes me feel like I'm at
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: least on some type of track with Natalie on the
• 53:50
  Speaker 2: same track, because just like a couple of months ago,
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: it was actually.
• 53:56
  Speaker 3: Four tortrip poets, so and my question had said that
• 54:00
  Speaker 3: some guy was some guy.
• 54:02
  Speaker 2: Was just so nasty to me at like the grocery
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: store or something. And she goes and I immediately thought
• 54:07
  Speaker 2: to myself, this is why Darcy hates men. And I
• 54:10
  Speaker 2: was like, and I said to her, I was like, oh, yeah, yeah,
• 54:15
  Speaker 2: I mean that's it is. It's the gym is a
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: place to really hate men.
• 54:20
  Speaker 3: The gym and that's where I was.
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: Spending niklaut of my coping time. I just pretending they're
• 54:25
  Speaker 2: not there, and I just literally look like they're in,
• 54:27
  Speaker 2: just like I look like I'm.
• 54:28
  Speaker 3: Disgusted by them. So I don't get hit on often.
• 54:31
  Speaker 2: That's also been That's been a thing with me is
• 54:34
  Speaker 2: I've always given the energy of like I'm not interested.
• 54:38
  Speaker 3: In you, like you're gross.
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: So I've i haven't really been hit on much in
• 54:43
  Speaker 2: my in my life, which I'm okay, with Honestly now,
• 54:48
  Speaker 2: I used to be self conscious about it, but now I'm.
• 54:51
  Speaker 3: Like, good, I'm not.
• 54:53
  Speaker 5: I definitely am like like, I don't want to be rude.
• 54:55
  Speaker 5: I'm just going like ha ha ha, and like lately
• 54:59
  Speaker 5: I haven't and it's very funny.
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: It feels good.
• 55:02
  Speaker 1: Right. One of the other prophecies I would like to outrun,
• 55:06
  Speaker 1: and this will get us into the criticism of the
• 55:08
  Speaker 1: album is whenever Taylor Swift or myself or any of
• 55:13
  Speaker 1: us have a slew of bad boyfriends, it's not the
• 55:16
  Speaker 1: prophecy of why are you such a dumb slut that
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: keeps getting had by matt men? And why is it? Instead?
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: Why are there so many bad men that you only
• 55:26
  Speaker 1: dated bad ones? You have yet to trip onto a
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: good one? Mm hm, you have yet to meet one
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: good man?
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 55:34
  Speaker 5: Is it our picker or or is it then?
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Is it the ratio the race? Because right now I'm
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: sitting on one couple that makes me believe in heterosexual love. Yeah,
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: and they know, like they know who they because I've
• 55:52
  Speaker 1: screamed it at them while we're dancing somewhere. I'm like you,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: You're the only You're the only straight couple I believe
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: should exist. It's just you. But yeah, like this this
• 56:06
  Speaker 1: whole idea that when Taylor Swift is writing an album
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: and she mentions these things that happened to her and
• 56:15
  Speaker 1: it is heartache and heartbreak and not getting what I
• 56:19
  Speaker 1: was supposed to be getting and what I was promised
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: and all of it, that we think that that's stupid
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: fluff and not like meaningful life events, like when did
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: we decide that, like heartache had a quota, like I'm
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: supposed to get past twenty two years old and nope,
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: and heartache should just be done. I'll never be broken
• 56:41
  Speaker 1: up with again. I'll like five boyfriends and I should
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: be smarter and finally the six's one works and no
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: one hurts me ever again. And I think, like it's
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: really easy to call Taylor like the Tortured Poet's Department,
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: like the most massive breakup album that ever exists. But
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: I really do think that, like to me when I
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: listen to it. Taylor is also not even pissed at
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: Jake Dylan Hall anymore. She's pissed at so many Jake
• 57:11
  Speaker 1: Jollen Halls exist, Like she's pissed at us for gossiping
• 57:16
  Speaker 1: about her instead of going like girl you good like girl,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: don't like girl like?
• 57:24
  Speaker 5: Well, that's what I mean.
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: That like each new one that comes your representative of
• 57:27
  Speaker 4: them all. Yeah, and you're just the next one, just
• 57:32
  Speaker 4: like yeah. I love those memes that are like, oh
• 57:36
  Speaker 4: my god, are you crying over submittally piece of shit
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: that like didn't even treat you all. Don't worry another
• 57:42
  Speaker 4: one that's a little bit different. It's right behind us.
• 57:45
  Speaker 4: It's gonna triak you.
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: It's really male centric and misogynistic centric. To believe that
• 57:51
  Speaker 1: I can do it with a broken heart is only
• 57:54
  Speaker 1: about her doing her job while she's said because Joe
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Alwin was boring for one more dinner, right, because like
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: I get heartbroken if they get my soda ron at McDonald's.
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: And honestly, that's hurt me more than any other man.
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: Like when I just want to really crisp McDonald's soda
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: and I take a sip of it and it's not
• 58:17
  Speaker 1: it's not a regular coke, it's diet coke. I'm switching
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: into the lane of traffic where SMI's gonna hit me
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: like I'm done, Like I'm done. Have I ever felt
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: that way because a man was like I don't want
• 58:30
  Speaker 1: to go anywhere. No, but like literally, like, sometimes heartache
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: is your mom saying the one weird thing that when
• 58:40
  Speaker 1: she says it, it hurts your feelings, but you don't
• 58:42
  Speaker 1: know how to express to her that it hurts your feelings.
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: Sometimes like heartache is putting your entire soul into an
• 58:48
  Speaker 1: album just to be told she's sad about her boyfriend's
• 58:52
  Speaker 1: one more time. And sometimes the heartache is being like,
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: but I was promised this, and sometimes that promise Like currently,
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: my heartache is I technically did everything right that millennials
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: were supposed to do, and my life is still fucking.
• 59:07
  Speaker 5: Broke, Sames same.
• 59:10
  Speaker 1: I went to college, I got a job, I get everything,
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: but Mary.
• 59:14
  Speaker 5: Some use got married. Where the am I right now?
• 59:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah? So sometimes it's like, well, the government lied to me,
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: and now I have to do all of this with
• 59:26
  Speaker 1: a broken heart, knowing that they're not even going to
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: give us stimulus checks to get through the next disaster.
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: Like yeah, I mean I get a broken heart every
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: time you hear another fucking bill packs.
• 59:39
  Speaker 5: Yes you know anything.
• 59:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, it's terrible. There's not much to be happy about.
• 59:49
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna need to be dramatic.
• 59:50
  Speaker 5: That's true.
• 59:51
  Speaker 1: Out there like it is so true. I I need
• 59:56
  Speaker 1: to do a deeper dive onto the song, Clara bo
• 59:59
  Speaker 1: but I think that but like her ending the song
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: with like you look like Taylor Swift, is her like
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 1: acknowledging that this is all cilical and we're all going
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: through it, so we have to start talking about it,
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 1: like there ain't nothing that Taylor Swift went through that
• 1:00:16
  Speaker 1: Stevie Nicks didn't go through three times.
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: Like I love Clara Bow.
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: Oh the fact that in my copy of The Tortured
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: Poet's Department, I can open it up and read the
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 1: breakup poem that Stevie Nicks wrote her about one ratty heally,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: I go, could you imagine fucking a guy for two
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 1: weeks and it ruining your entire life? And you just
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 1: call up Stevie Nicks to be like Stevie, I'm sad,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 1: and she writes you.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 3: A poem like it's very incredible, insane. I know.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: It's like how Miley Cyris gets to have Dolly Parton
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: as a godmother, And I was like, my whole life
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: would be different, My whole life would be different if
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 1: Dolly Parton had a hand in it.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: Let me imagine I've seen Stevie Nicks exactly once in
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: concert and it was within the last two years, and
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: it truly was healing and it was religious, and she
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: did go, I need you to watch sixty minutes so
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 1: you understand more about the Ukraine. And I almost did it,
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 1: but I don't know how to stream sixty minutes, So
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 1: sorry about it, Stevie Nicks, Like I couldn't figure out
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: which streaming service sixteen minutes was on, and I have ADHD,
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: but like you know, but even that, like Clara Boson is,
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: like she was the hottest Hollywood actress in the world
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: and they still dogged her. Stevie Nix was the hottest
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: musician in the entire world, and she still fucking got
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: cheated on and dumped by Fleetwood Mac and had to
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: make her own fucking career out of it. Anyways, my
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 1: motherfucking Taylor Swift, and they print some bullshit article every
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 1: week that I'm fighting with Billie Eilish, he.
• 1:02:00
  Speaker 3: Said, which I don't know. I can't remember if like
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: I read it or some friend said it.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 2: But the theory that that last line you look like
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 2: Taylor Schieff is actually about Olivia Rodrigo.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: Oh, yeah, for sure, and it totally makes I haven't
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 4: even seen that, but like I always read it as
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 4: like it's like the next one.
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 5: It's very much like.
• 1:02:21
  Speaker 4: She has other song that's like oh with Phoebe Phoebe Bridges,
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 4: Oh nothing new where that's like obviously the thing that's
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 4: on her mind about like this is temporary and like
• 1:02:36
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna do it as hard as I can because
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 4: like somebody will be telling somebody very soon.
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 5: You look like Taylor Shifts. She looked like Steve x.
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 1: I, Okay, we go, let's wrap it up. We're gonna
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: wrap it up. Where I was really gonna be an adult.
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth is actively peeing herself and starving.
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 5: I didn't eat very much today, and I will be
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 5: honest like I hate it too.
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 1: She's a right to send me sos is in the
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 1: chat that I just keep ignoring. I'm like, why is
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: that naking a notification?
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 4: I was gonna say something if this one went a while, So,
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, honestly, like you no, like I'm in the
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 4: time zone though. That's like you guys, we have to
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 4: do it super late because I have to put my
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: daughter down and then like then I'm like I have
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 4: to eat talk about like that.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So we have talked at nauseum about Tortured
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 1: Poet's Apartment and all of the feelings that it brought
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 1: up and how we wish better for ourselves and Taylor
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: Swift and our daughters and our daughters and our mothers
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 1: and all of it. If you had to wrap up
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: the biggest lesson that Tortured Poet's Department handed you, what
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: was the best thing it taught you?
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 4: Okay, So I think it's that it's not your father
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 4: hurt so hard, even if it wasn't real. And it's
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 4: also okay to revisit the feelings of anger and sadness.
• 1:03:57
  Speaker 1: In a.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 5: Almost like way, to remember you're still human before it
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 5: happens again.
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: I love that ursy with yours.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: M So I would say, I know there's a lot
• 1:04:16
  Speaker 2: so unpacked, but I would say probably my biggest lesson,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 2: like the biggest thing that I took from the Tortured
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 2: Post's Department was like stepping back and acknowledging and recognizing
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 2: things for what they are and feeling that and sometimes
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 2: that's not.
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 3: Pleasant or you know, it's it's it's tough, but also that.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 2: You can do it with a broken heart and we
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 2: cannot like you know what I mean, I feel like
• 1:04:57
  Speaker 2: I I can feel all this stuff and I can.
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: Still be me and keep growing and well, the fact
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 4: that this happens to us does not define us, and
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 4: the fact that it might hopefully not happen again isn't
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 4: the story is either.
• 1:05:15
  Speaker 1: Because I think I'm actually really surprised. It always surprises
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 1: me what actually happens when I get on the mic,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 1: despite what I thought I would say when I got
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: on the mic, I I don't think it hit me
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 1: until right now as we were talking about it, that
• 1:05:31
  Speaker 1: the whole album isn't a breakup album. It's a liberation
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 1: album of liberating yourself from the guilt that comes from
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: being had.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, that's so. That's like the perfect way to
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 3: put it.
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 5: It is because that shame is so heavy.
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: The shame is so heavy, and so I think, like
• 1:05:51
  Speaker 1: I will listen to this album when I need to remember,
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 1: just like I listened to all too well, when I
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 1: need to remember, like Gaslighting is, they'll tell you fucking whatever,
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: like you were there, your memories are true. I will
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: listen to this album every time I need to remember.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 1: It is not actually my fault that they treated me
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 1: that way. It's not a prophecy that's been put on
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: my head. It's not something I'm asking for.
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 4: It's not so because it's not vague, it's specific, it's targeted.
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 4: It is designed to make you forget what you even
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 4: want or believe. Right, So tell me everything is not
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 4: about me, But what if it is exactly? And say
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 4: they didn't do it.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: To hurt me? But what if they did?
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: Because I've had that conversation with my therapist years ago
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: when she's like, you know, you're talking about it, like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: he had this like plot and scheme and plan, and
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: so many people will tell you me, but did any
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: he because so many people are still stuck in this mindset.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: They're like, oh, man, ares.
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 5: Too stupid to be to do it. They're too stupid
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 5: toulate you.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: They don't have.
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 3: They want you to say it.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, well yeah, they wait for you to say it
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 5: so that yeah.
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they weaponize incompetence their way into gas lighting bockers.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: So yeah, it's not actually my fault. Taylor Swift said so,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: and Stevie Nick's Oh signed it, that's all I need.
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 5: It's the president and vice president of female every age.
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 1: Do you think that'll imparton ever? Let that silent man
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: that's her husband. She was wrang a day in her life.
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: That man's never spoken.
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 5: We have lots of examples.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: What are we what kind of energy are we adding
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: back into the collective energy with our manifestations?
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, I'm going to manifest that. Any woman whoever sits
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 4: down to a date, if it's no any date where
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 4: the man says where did you come from? Or I
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 4: could see myself X y Z anything with you, just go.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 5: Away, Just don't do it, just the worm away. Those
• 1:08:02
  Speaker 5: are pretend.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 4: Statements that no one ever has to cash a check
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 4: in for, like when it's projection, when it's the future
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 4: that is not a real thing, and that person gets
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: to pretend they are whoever they want to be, whoever
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 4: you want them to be in this like non existent future.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 4: So those are red flag statements for me, and I
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: urge any woman going on dates. If somebody is like, where.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 5: Did you come from? I don't like that, Like I
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 5: came from two.
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 4: Blocks away in the city that you grew up in,
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: because I'm a full fucking human and like I feel
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: like you're bringing some weird energy that's supposed to woo
• 1:08:41
  Speaker 4: me and probably will work some way.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Stop well, because what Love Island, USA has taught me
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: is that men have to view us people to feel
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: bad when they hurt you. So if they only view
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: you as a figment or as an idea or as
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 1: like a myth and that starts.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 4: That like yeah, yeah, and it comes from Greek mythology.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 4: I came from my mama, and like, yeah, Midtown.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 1: I'm not just like an idea of a future for you,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 1: Like I am actually a person whose heartbeats, and very
• 1:09:16
  Speaker 1: often they don't. Actually, like watch Love Island, not one
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 1: of those boys ever looks at one of those girls
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 1: and it is like, that's a human, a human I
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: should care about kissing another girl in front of mm
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: hmm Gracy, what's here me innifestation.
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 7: So my manifestation is that all women will recognize their
• 1:09:41
  Speaker 7: worth and hold on to that and know that they
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 7: don't that they deserve the world. We deserve the fucking
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 7: world and men can't give it to us. Yeah, that's
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 7: I'm just getting that into me.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 3: Let's know. That's yeah, So That's where I'm at.
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: We deserve it. We also birthed it, like we birthed
• 1:10:10
  Speaker 1: the entire world they used to let us be in
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: charge of village life and religious ceremonies and all of
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 1: it into white dudes that fragile, and we're like, why
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: are you letting these women just like crush up berries
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: and call that a ceremony? Have you ever heard of
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 1: like incense? Like, we don't even let men touch women
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 1: for our God because women be icky. Anyways, My manifestation
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: is that for all of the cassandras to start to
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 1: be believed, and when whistles are blown, they are listened to,
• 1:10:47
  Speaker 1: and that every time a woman takes the very essence
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 1: of who she is and her experiences and the hurt
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: and the joy or the pain and the agony that
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 1: it caused, that instead of going I can't believe she
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  Speaker 1: let that happen to her, we start asking why does
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  Speaker 1: Jake Jillen Hall have the gall to do that to
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift? How did Joe Alwin walk the earth embarrassed
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  Speaker 1: to be fucking Taylor Swift a day in his life?
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  Speaker 1: Do you know how Travis Kelsey finally got me on
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  Speaker 1: his goddamn side. He's the only man I've ever watched
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  Speaker 1: date her who realizes that it's fucking cool to be
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  Speaker 1: fucking Taylor Swift.
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  Speaker 5: I'm changing my manifestation.
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  Speaker 4: And is that all the Cassandras, even if they are
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  Speaker 4: never believed, don't stop telling the truth.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well there's that one too, truly, because like
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  Speaker 1: we're two living proof ladies sitting right here, but like
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  Speaker 1: it still matters, right because I'll believe you. So just
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  Speaker 1: screaming in my DMS and all caps, I guess thank
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  Speaker 1: you for being here for our two to three part
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  Speaker 1: series on the Tortured Poets Department. We'll be back here
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  Speaker 1: for debut.
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  Speaker 5: Taylor's absolutely thank you so much for having us.
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  Speaker 3: This is so fun.
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  Speaker 1: We'll do an entire episode on all of the bonus tracks.
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  Speaker 1: Once all of the bonus tracks, well then you're never
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  Speaker 1: getting rid of us.
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  Speaker 4: If we're just gonna say, just keep coming back, sed go,
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  Speaker 4: We've got about like four hundred and seventy five more
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  Speaker 4: songs to come.
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  Speaker 1: Oh my god, I know, in another life I did
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  Speaker 1: a movie podcast, But in another life I did a
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  Speaker 1: Taylor Swift say the word nice?
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  Speaker 3: Does it?
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  Speaker 1: Does anyone have anything to plug?
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  Speaker 4: I'm not very active right now, and that's activities, So
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  Speaker 4: meet me back here. Whenever Natalie is like, hey, bitch,
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  Speaker 4: come home, right.
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  Speaker 1: You can send all of your compliments for Darcy and
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: Elizabeth in the comment section, so the algorithm will stop
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  Speaker 1: ignoring me. How about that?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 1: But also in my dms and I will screenshot them
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  Speaker 1: and pass them along, And those dms can be found
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  Speaker 1: at men I've Tolerated pod on Instagram, Natalie K one
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  Speaker 1: two four on Instagram, and TikTok follow us on YouTube.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: That's where all of the men who's feelings I've hurt
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: have yelled at me. So if you want to yell
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: at them, I'll laugh. That would be fun for me.
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  Speaker 1: And make sure to check out the Patreon because this
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: episode was edited, but I bet you the one on
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: Patreon is just the fucking entire mother load where you
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: get this, including probably just what Darcy and I talked
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: about while Elizabeth took a pee.
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  Speaker 7: It's just.
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  Speaker 1: Right.
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  Speaker 4: You want to hear my sad poetry. Good news as
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 4: well for everyone who lists. And it's five minutes. I
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 4: just smoke a cigarette. Oh, I had a feeling I
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 4: was feeling. I did peeking on my daughter too. There
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 4: were a couple there were they were.
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  Speaker 1: Moving and shaking. But remember tolerators. You don't have to
• 1:13:47
  Speaker 1: smile through anything you're tolerating, including a listening to thirty
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  Speaker 1: two songs written by your favorite artist, just for some
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  Speaker 1: dude to weigh in on your good time to be like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: is she writing about her ex boyfriend again? Smiles her
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  Speaker 1: for joy