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- 0:00Foreign.
- 0:09Welcome
- 0:10to
- 0:10Advisory
- 0:11Secrets
- 0:11with
- 0:12Deb
- 0:12Halladay,
- 0:13the
- 0:13podcast
- 0:13for
- 0:14accountants
- 0:14and
- 0:14bookkeepers
- 0:15who
- 0:15are
- 0:16ready
- 0:16to
- 0:16move
- 0:16beyond
- 0:17compliance
- 0:17work
- 0:18and
- 0:18step
- 0:19confidently
- 0:19into
- 0:20advisory.
- 0:21If
- 0:21you
- 0:22ever
- 0:22felt
- 0:22there
- 0:22must
- 0:23be
- 0:23more
- 0:23to
- 0:23your
- 0:23role
- 0:24than
- 0:24year
- 0:24end
- 0:25accounts,
- 0:25tax
- 0:25returns
- 0:26and
- 0:26deadlines,
- 0:27you're
- 0:28right.
- 0:28In
- 0:29this
- 0:29podcast,
- 0:30I'll
- 0:30share
- 0:30the
- 0:31strategies,
- 0:32insights
- 0:33and
- 0:33real
- 0:33world
- 0:34lessons
- 0:34that
- 0:35help
- 0:36accounting
- 0:37professionals
- 0:38transition
- 0:39from
- 0:39technician
- 0:40to
- 0:40trusted
- 0:41advisor.
- 0:42We'll
- 0:42explore
- 0:42how
- 0:42to
- 0:43lead
- 0:43better
- 0:43financial
- 0:44conversations
- 0:44and
- 0:44deliver
- 0:45real
- 0:45value
- 0:46to
- 0:46clients.
- 0:46I'm
- 0:47Deb
- 0:47Halliday,
- 0:48author
- 0:48and
- 0:48creator
- 0:49of
- 0:49training
- 0:49programs
- 0:50for
- 0:50accounting
- 0:51professionals,
- 0:51and
- 0:52this
- 0:52is
- 0:52Advisory
- 0:52Secrets.
- 0:53Foreign.
- 1:00We're
- 1:00talking
- 1:01about
- 1:01something
- 1:01that
- 1:01comes
- 1:02up
- 1:02time
- 1:02and
- 1:02time
- 1:02again
- 1:03when
- 1:04accountants
- 1:05and
- 1:05bookkeepers
- 1:06begin
- 1:06moving
- 1:06into
- 1:07advisory
- 1:08pricing.
- 1:09Or
- 1:09more
- 1:09specifically,
- 1:10the
- 1:10confidence
- 1:10to
- 1:11charge
- 1:11for
- 1:11advisory.
- 1:12Because
- 1:12one
- 1:12of
- 1:12the
- 1:13biggest
- 1:13surprises
- 1:13I
- 1:14see
- 1:14is
- 1:14that
- 1:14the
- 1:14challenge
- 1:15is
- 1:15rarely
- 1:16delivering
- 1:17advisory.
- 1:17The
- 1:18challenge
- 1:18is
- 1:18valuing
- 1:19it.
- 1:19I've
- 1:20worked
- 1:20with
- 1:20many
- 1:20accountants
- 1:21and
- 1:21bookkeepers
- 1:22over
- 1:22the
- 1:22years
- 1:23who
- 1:23are
- 1:23incredibly
- 1:24knowledgeable.
- 1:25They
- 1:26understand
- 1:26business.
- 1:27They
- 1:27understand
- 1:28numbers.
- 1:28They
- 1:29can
- 1:29spot
- 1:29problems
- 1:30long
- 1:30before
- 1:31a
- 1:31client
- 1:31sees
- 1:32them
- 1:32coming.
- 1:32Yet
- 1:33when
- 1:33it
- 1:33comes
- 1:33to
- 1:33putting
- 1:34a
- 1:34price
- 1:34on
- 1:34that
- 1:35expertise,
- 1:36many
- 1:36become
- 1:37uncomfortable.
- 1:38They
- 1:38second
- 1:39guess
- 1:39themselves.
- 1:40They
- 1:40worry
- 1:40clients
- 1:41won't
- 1:41pay.
- 1:42They
- 1:42compare
- 1:42advisory
- 1:43work
- 1:43to
- 1:43compliance
- 1:44fees,
- 1:44and
- 1:45often
- 1:45they
- 1:45end
- 1:45up
- 1:46undervaluing
- 1:47some
- 1:47of
- 1:47the
- 1:47most
- 1:47important
- 1:48work
- 1:48they
- 1:48do.
- 1:49So
- 1:49in
- 1:49today's
- 1:50episode,
- 1:50I
- 1:51want
- 1:51to
- 1:51talk
- 1:51about
- 1:52why
- 1:52this
- 1:52happens,
- 1:53why
- 1:54it
- 1:54matters,
- 1:54and
- 1:55how
- 1:55changing
- 1:55the
- 1:56way
- 1:56you
- 1:56think
- 1:56about
- 1:56advisory
- 1:57can
- 1:58completely
- 1:59transform
- 2:00your
- 2:00business.
- 2:02The
- 2:02Compliance
- 2:03Pricing
- 2:03Mindset
- 2:05Most
- 2:06of
- 2:06us
- 2:06grew
- 2:06up
- 2:06professionally
- 2:07in
- 2:07a
- 2:07compliance
- 2:08world.
- 2:08We
- 2:09charge
- 2:09for
- 2:09accounts,
- 2:10we
- 2:10charge
- 2:10for
- 2:11tax
- 2:11returns,
- 2:11we
- 2:12charge
- 2:12for
- 2:12bookkeeping,
- 2:13we
- 2:13charge
- 2:14for
- 2:14payroll.
- 2:15The
- 2:15pricing
- 2:15conversation
- 2:16was
- 2:16usually
- 2:17linked
- 2:17to
- 2:17a
- 2:17task.
- 2:18The
- 2:18work
- 2:19was
- 2:19visible,
- 2:20the
- 2:20deliverable
- 2:21was
- 2:21obvious.
- 2:22The
- 2:22client
- 2:23knew
- 2:23exactly
- 2:23what
- 2:24they
- 2:24were
- 2:24receiving.
- 2:26But
- 2:26advisory
- 2:27is
- 2:27different.
- 2:27Advisory
- 2:28isn't
- 2:28about
- 2:29completing
- 2:29a
- 2:29task.
- 2:30It's
- 2:30about
- 2:31helping
- 2:31someone
- 2:31make
- 2:32a
- 2:32better
- 2:32decision.
- 2:32And
- 2:33that's
- 2:33much
- 2:33harder
- 2:34for
- 2:34many
- 2:34professionals
- 2:34to
- 2:35put
- 2:35a
- 2:35value
- 2:35on.
- 2:36The
- 2:36challenge
- 2:36is
- 2:37that
- 2:37we
- 2:37often
- 2:38continue
- 2:38using
- 2:39a
- 2:39compliance
- 2:40pricing
- 2:41mindset.
- 2:42When
- 2:42we're
- 2:42delivering
- 2:43advisory
- 2:44work,
- 2:44we
- 2:44think
- 2:45about
- 2:45the
- 2:45meeting,
- 2:46the
- 2:46hours,
- 2:46the
- 2:47preparation,
- 2:47the
- 2:47report.
- 2:49But
- 2:50clients
- 2:50aren't
- 2:50really
- 2:51paying
- 2:51for
- 2:51any
- 2:51of
- 2:51those
- 2:52things.
- 2:52They're
- 2:52paying
- 2:53for
- 2:53clarity.
- 2:54They're
- 2:54paying
- 2:54for
- 2:54confidence.
- 2:55They're
- 2:55paying
- 2:56for
- 2:57better
- 2:58decisions.
- 3:00Why
- 3:00We
- 3:00Undervalue
- 3:01Ourselves
- 3:03I
- 3:03think
- 3:03there
- 3:04are
- 3:04a
- 3:04few
- 3:04reasons
- 3:05why
- 3:05accountants
- 3:06struggle
- 3:06with
- 3:06this.
- 3:07The
- 3:07first
- 3:07is
- 3:07familiarity.
- 3:09What
- 3:09comes
- 3:09naturally
- 3:09to
- 3:10us
- 3:10often
- 3:11doesn't
- 3:11feel
- 3:11valuable
- 3:12because
- 3:12we
- 3:13look
- 3:13at
- 3:13a
- 3:14set
- 3:14of
- 3:14numbers
- 3:14and
- 3:15immediately
- 3:15see
- 3:16what's
- 3:16happening.
- 3:17We
- 3:17spot
- 3:17trends,
- 3:18we
- 3:19identify
- 3:19risks,
- 3:20we
- 3:20recognise
- 3:21opportunities.
- 3:22It's
- 3:22easy
- 3:22to
- 3:23forget
- 3:23that
- 3:23clients
- 3:23can't
- 3:24see
- 3:24what
- 3:24we
- 3:24see.
- 3:25What
- 3:25feels
- 3:25obvious
- 3:26to
- 3:26us
- 3:26is
- 3:26often
- 3:27transformational
- 3:27for
- 3:27them.
- 3:28The
- 3:28second
- 3:28reason
- 3:29is
- 3:29comparison.
- 3:30Many
- 3:30accountants
- 3:30compare
- 3:31advisory
- 3:31fees
- 3:32to
- 3:33compliance
- 3:34fees,
- 3:34but
- 3:35they're
- 3:35completely
- 3:35different
- 3:36services.
- 3:37Compliance
- 3:38tells
- 3:38clients
- 3:39what
- 3:39happened.
- 3:40Advisory
- 3:41helps
- 3:41shape
- 3:41what
- 3:42happens
- 3:42next.
- 3:43And
- 3:43the
- 3:43value
- 3:44of
- 3:44those
- 3:45two
- 3:45things
- 3:45is
- 3:45very
- 3:46different.
- 3:46The
- 3:47third
- 3:47reason
- 3:47is
- 3:47confidence.
- 3:49Many
- 3:49professionals
- 3:50are
- 3:50far
- 3:50more
- 3:50comfortable
- 3:51talking
- 3:52about
- 3:52technical
- 3:52work
- 3:53than
- 3:53talking
- 3:54about
- 3:54the
- 3:54impact
- 3:54they
- 3:55create.
- 3:55And
- 3:56yet
- 3:56the
- 3:56impact
- 3:57is
- 3:57exactly
- 3:58what
- 3:58clients
- 3:58care
- 3:58about
- 3:59most.
- 4:00The
- 4:00Question
- 4:01that
- 4:01Changed
- 4:02Everything
- 4:04One
- 4:05question
- 4:05completely
- 4:06changed
- 4:06the
- 4:06way
- 4:06I
- 4:06thought
- 4:07about
- 4:07advisory.
- 4:08It's
- 4:08a
- 4:08very
- 4:08simple
- 4:09question.
- 4:09What
- 4:09happens
- 4:10if
- 4:10the
- 4:10client
- 4:11takes
- 4:11your
- 4:11advice?
- 4:12Not
- 4:12what
- 4:13happens
- 4:13if
- 4:13they
- 4:13attend
- 4:14the
- 4:14meeting.
- 4:14Not
- 4:15what
- 4:15happens
- 4:15if
- 4:15they
- 4:16read
- 4:16the
- 4:16report.
- 4:18What
- 4:18happens
- 4:18if
- 4:19they
- 4:19actually
- 4:20implement
- 4:21what
- 4:21you've
- 4:21suggested?
- 4:22Because
- 4:22that's
- 4:23where
- 4:23the
- 4:23value
- 4:23sits.
- 4:25If
- 4:26your
- 4:26advice
- 4:26helps
- 4:27a
- 4:27client
- 4:28improve
- 4:28profitability,
- 4:30increase
- 4:30cash
- 4:30flow,
- 4:31avoid
- 4:31a
- 4:32costly
- 4:32mistake,
- 4:33make
- 4:33a
- 4:33better
- 4:33hiring
- 4:34decision,
- 4:34or
- 4:35improve
- 4:35pricing,
- 4:36the
- 4:36impact
- 4:37can
- 4:37be
- 4:37significant,
- 4:39often
- 4:39far
- 4:39greater
- 4:40than
- 4:40the
- 4:40fee
- 4:41you're
- 4:41charging.
- 4:42Yet
- 4:42many
- 4:42accountants
- 4:43focus
- 4:43on
- 4:43the
- 4:43cost
- 4:44of
- 4:45delivering
- 4:45the
- 4:45advice
- 4:46rather
- 4:46than
- 4:46the
- 4:47value
- 4:47of
- 4:47the
- 4:47outcome.
- 4:49The
- 4:50Client
- 4:50that
- 4:50Changed
- 4:50my
- 4:51thinking
- 4:52I
- 4:53remember
- 4:53working
- 4:53with
- 4:54a
- 4:54client
- 4:54who
- 4:54initially
- 4:55paid
- 4:55a
- 4:55relatively
- 4:55modest
- 4:56monthly
- 4:56fee.
- 4:57Like
- 4:57many
- 4:58business
- 4:58owners,
- 4:58he
- 4:58was
- 4:59working
- 4:59hard
- 4:59but
- 5:00didn't
- 5:00really
- 5:00have
- 5:00visibility
- 5:02over
- 5:02his
- 5:02numbers.
- 5:03Through
- 5:03regular
- 5:04conversations,
- 5:05planning
- 5:05sessions,
- 5:05and
- 5:06better
- 5:06financial
- 5:06understanding,
- 5:07things
- 5:08started
- 5:08to
- 5:08change.
- 5:09The
- 5:09business
- 5:10grew,
- 5:10the
- 5:11decision
- 5:11making
- 5:11improved,
- 5:13confidence
- 5:13increased,
- 5:14and
- 5:14over
- 5:14time,
- 5:15revenue
- 5:16grew
- 5:16significantly.
- 5:18But
- 5:18what
- 5:19really
- 5:19changed
- 5:20wasn't
- 5:20just
- 5:20the
- 5:21numbers.
- 5:21It
- 5:22was
- 5:22how
- 5:22the
- 5:22client
- 5:23felt.
- 5:24He
- 5:24stopped
- 5:25making
- 5:25decisions
- 5:26based
- 5:26on
- 5:26guesswork.
- 5:27He
- 5:27stopped
- 5:28worrying
- 5:28about
- 5:28cash
- 5:28flow
- 5:29every
- 5:29month.
- 5:29He
- 5:30had
- 5:30clarity,
- 5:30and
- 5:31that
- 5:31clarity
- 5:31allowed
- 5:32him
- 5:32to
- 5:32build
- 5:33a
- 5:33better
- 5:33business.
- 5:34That's
- 5:34when
- 5:35I
- 5:35realized
- 5:35something
- 5:35important.
- 5:36Clients
- 5:37aren't
- 5:37paying
- 5:38for
- 5:38spreadsheets.
- 5:39They're
- 5:39paying
- 5:39for
- 5:39confidence.
- 5:41Why
- 5:41Pricing
- 5:42reflects
- 5:42Confidence
- 5:45One
- 5:45of
- 5:45the
- 5:45things
- 5:45I've
- 5:46learned
- 5:46over
- 5:46the
- 5:46years
- 5:47is
- 5:47that
- 5:47pricing
- 5:47is
- 5:48often
- 5:48a
- 5:48reflection
- 5:49of
- 5:49confidence.
- 5:51If
- 5:51you're
- 5:51unsure
- 5:52about
- 5:52your
- 5:52value,
- 5:53clients
- 5:53will
- 5:54sense
- 5:54it.
- 5:55If
- 5:55you're
- 5:56hesitant
- 5:56when
- 5:57discussing
- 5:57fees,
- 5:58clients
- 5:58will
- 5:58sense
- 5:59it.
- 6:00If
- 6:00you're
- 6:01apologetic
- 6:01about
- 6:02pricing,
- 6:02clients
- 6:03will
- 6:03sense
- 6:03it.
- 6:04But
- 6:05when
- 6:05you're
- 6:05clear
- 6:05about
- 6:06the
- 6:06outcomes
- 6:07you
- 6:07help
- 6:07create,
- 6:09the
- 6:09conversation
- 6:10changes.
- 6:11Because
- 6:11you're
- 6:12no
- 6:12longer
- 6:12talking
- 6:12about
- 6:13hours.
- 6:13You're
- 6:14talking
- 6:14about
- 6:14results.
- 6:16You're
- 6:16talking
- 6:16about
- 6:17better
- 6:17decisions.
- 6:18You're
- 6:18talking
- 6:19about
- 6:19solving
- 6:19problems.
- 6:20And
- 6:20that's
- 6:21where
- 6:21advisory
- 6:21becomes
- 6:22much
- 6:22easier
- 6:23to
- 6:23position.
- 6:25The
- 6:25difference
- 6:26between
- 6:26cost
- 6:27and
- 6:27value.
- 6:30Business
- 6:30owners
- 6:31spend
- 6:31money
- 6:31every
- 6:31day.
- 6:32The
- 6:32question
- 6:32isn't
- 6:33whether
- 6:33they
- 6:33spend
- 6:34money.
- 6:35The
- 6:35question
- 6:35is
- 6:36whether
- 6:36they
- 6:36believe
- 6:36something
- 6:37is
- 6:37valuable.
- 6:38Nobody
- 6:39complains
- 6:39about
- 6:39spending
- 6:40money
- 6:40on
- 6:40something
- 6:40that
- 6:40genuinely
- 6:41improves
- 6:41their
- 6:42life
- 6:43or
- 6:43business.
- 6:43The
- 6:44challenge
- 6:44is
- 6:44helping
- 6:45clients
- 6:45understand
- 6:46the
- 6:46value
- 6:46of
- 6:46the
- 6:46outcome.
- 6:47That's
- 6:48why
- 6:48case
- 6:48studies
- 6:49are
- 6:49so
- 6:49powerful.
- 6:50That's
- 6:50why
- 6:50stories
- 6:51are
- 6:51so
- 6:51powerful.
- 6:52And
- 6:52that's
- 6:52why
- 6:53confidence
- 6:53matters
- 6:54so
- 6:54much.
- 6:54When
- 6:55clients
- 6:55can
- 6:55see
- 6:55what
- 6:56is
- 6:56possible,
- 6:56they
- 6:56stop
- 6:57focusing
- 6:57on
- 6:57the
- 6:58fee
- 6:58and
- 6:59start
- 6:59focusing
- 6:59on
- 6:59the
- 7:00result.
- 7:02Why
- 7:03Advisory
- 7:03Changes
- 7:04Everything
- 7:06One
- 7:06of
- 7:06the
- 7:07reasons
- 7:07I
- 7:07love
- 7:07advisory
- 7:08is
- 7:09is
- 7:09because
- 7:09it
- 7:09changes
- 7:10the
- 7:10nature
- 7:10of
- 7:11the
- 7:11relationship.
- 7:12You're
- 7:12no
- 7:12longer
- 7:13just
- 7:13preparing
- 7:14information,
- 7:15you're
- 7:16helping
- 7:16someone
- 7:16make
- 7:16decisions.
- 7:17You're
- 7:18helping
- 7:18them
- 7:18achieve
- 7:18goals.
- 7:19You're
- 7:19helping
- 7:20them
- 7:20create
- 7:20the
- 7:20business
- 7:21they
- 7:21originally
- 7:22wanted.
- 7:22And
- 7:23that's
- 7:23far
- 7:23more
- 7:23meaningful
- 7:24than
- 7:25simply
- 7:25delivering
- 7:26a
- 7:26report.
- 7:27It's
- 7:27also
- 7:27why
- 7:28many
- 7:28accountants
- 7:29discover
- 7:29they
- 7:29enjoy
- 7:30advisory
- 7:31so
- 7:31much
- 7:31more
- 7:32than
- 7:32compliance
- 7:32work.
- 7:33The
- 7:33conversations
- 7:34become
- 7:34richer,
- 7:35the
- 7:35relationships
- 7:36become
- 7:37deeper,
- 7:38and
- 7:38the
- 7:39impact
- 7:39becomes
- 7:40much
- 7:40more
- 7:40visible.
- 7:43Final
- 7:43Thoughts
- 7:45if
- 7:45there's
- 7:45one
- 7:45thing
- 7:45I'd
- 7:46like
- 7:46you
- 7:46to
- 7:46take
- 7:46away
- 7:46from
- 7:47this
- 7:47episode,
- 7:47it's
- 7:48this.
- 7:48Stop
- 7:48focusing
- 7:49on
- 7:49the
- 7:49work.
- 7:50Start
- 7:50focusing
- 7:51on
- 7:51the
- 7:51outcome.
- 7:52Because
- 7:52clients
- 7:52aren't
- 7:53buying
- 7:53your
- 7:53time,
- 7:54they're
- 7:54buying
- 7:55your
- 7:55expertise.
- 7:56They're
- 7:56buying
- 7:56your
- 7:56insight.
- 7:57They're
- 7:58buying
- 7:58the
- 7:58confidence
- 7:58that
- 7:59comes
- 7:59from
- 8:00having
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