Latest / The Kink Consultant / Biohacking Your Orgasm with Susan Bratton
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- 0:08It's a King Consultant podcast where we're turning up the heat
- 0:11on all things kink and dating, relationships and pop culture.
- 0:14So close the door, plug in your headphones, and let's get down
- 0:17to it. Hello everyone, and welcome to
- 0:24this week's episode of the King Consultant Podcast.
- 0:27I'm joined by Susan Bratton, an intimacy expert to millions and
- 0:31just a general overall sexpert as I have known her for years
- 0:35and have been following. There is nothing Susan will now
- 0:38talk about. Hi Amanda, it's great to talk to
- 0:40you. I'm excited to talk to you about
- 0:42kinky sex. Can I ask you a couple of
- 0:44questions? Go for it.
- 0:45You do a lot of one-on-one and couples work, so you're really
- 0:51in it deeply, which I love. What are you helping people with
- 0:54the most? What are the kind of maybe top
- 0:57three or four things that you're finding that people want from
- 1:01you? Great question.
- 1:03I think the number one thing that I am helping with the most
- 1:06is I work primarily with couples who are in that like 3540 plus
- 1:11range who have been together for a while and they've lost that
- 1:14intimacy, They've lost the spark and they're just trying to
- 1:17reignite their marriage and their bedroom life.
- 1:20What I do is I put the value on the bedroom life and what's
- 1:23putting there so that they can re explore themselves.
- 1:27And oftentimes because of what I do, one partner is kinkier than
- 1:29the other. And I'm sort of bridging the gap
- 1:32for them so that they can come to a mutual understanding of why
- 1:35desire is important to each of them and how they can both
- 1:37fulfill each other's fantasies so that they're enjoying
- 1:40themselves a lot. More.
- 1:41A lot. It's not one sided.
- 1:42Yeah. So that's really my main focus.
- 1:44And what are the kinky things that they come to you that they
- 1:47desire? What are top five or six things
- 1:51you most often see that one partner once and the other
- 1:54partner has to kind of get used to?
- 1:56It's often about power exchange, but oftentimes people will come
- 1:59to me and they both want the other person to be more dominant
- 2:02in the bedroom. But there are a bunch of things
- 2:05that he really doesn't understand or she doesn't
- 2:07understand. They want the fantasy and they
- 2:09want to be able to experience it without having to do all the
- 2:12hand holding. That's like a major kink.
- 2:14So there are someones that fall under that, though.
- 2:17Are you familiar with chastity? Yeah.
- 2:19OK. So I have a lot of clients who
- 2:21want to explore chastity and their wives have never even
- 2:24heard of a chastity cage. Like we're building up the
- 2:26partners education together, explaining why they enjoy it,
- 2:29what they want from it, how cages work.
- 2:31So that's a really common one. Classic Dom sub relationships
- 2:35are also another one and that's both men and women come to me
- 2:37and they're like, me and my partner want to explore this.
- 2:39We need a little bit of help. Power exchange is huge, chastity
- 2:43is big. A lot of them fall under that.
- 2:45Interesting. Those are the two big ones.
- 2:48They are huge. I'm surprised you would have
- 2:49picked chastity. I'm not surprised with power
- 2:51Exchange. That totally makes sense to me.
- 2:53And when you bring them into Power Exchange, what are you
- 2:56teaching them at a high level? Like what are kind of the big
- 3:00picture things they need to learn to be able to pull it off
- 3:02confidently? Funnily enough, one of the
- 3:04things that I have to talk to them about is how they interact
- 3:09with each other outside of the bedroom because it's only a
- 3:12power exchange. If you feel you're actually
- 3:14changing your role when you step into it.
- 3:16It's interesting. Women, whether they're being
- 3:18asked to play the dominant or the submissive role, talk to me
- 3:21a lot about not being able to rely on their partner to do
- 3:23things like take out the trash and replace the trash bag.
- 3:27I joke like that's one of my session lines.
- 3:29It truly is. I've told multiple husbands,
- 3:31hey, you're going to get more of what you want in the bedroom and
- 3:33she's going to feel the ability to be more dominant in the
- 3:35bedroom if she can trust you to be dominant outside of the
- 3:39bedroom and do your tasks equally.
- 3:42She finds it difficult to submit if she has to be the person
- 3:46always nagging outside of the bedroom.
- 3:48So I find that some of the outside stuff matters a lot when
- 3:51it comes into the bedroom and then when we talk about in the
- 3:54bedroom, confidence is the number one thing I am working
- 3:58with both partners on. They are nervous and fearful of
- 4:01upsetting their partner, hurting them, really indulging in their
- 4:04own desires because they have a lot of embarrassment and shame
- 4:07around it. So those two things coupled
- 4:09together, fear of not giving their partner what they need and
- 4:12actually hurting them, not even physically but just emotionally
- 4:15or in a different way. And then also embarrassment and
- 4:17shame about their own desires, making them unable to really
- 4:20relax into their role and take on this role play or even be a
- 4:24little bit more aggressive in the bedroom in a safe,
- 4:26consensual way. Those two things hold up so many
- 4:29people. Like I can't even put more
- 4:31weight on them, but I know that building confidence in, listen,
- 4:35you're not going to hurt them. They want this and this is how
- 4:37you can do it safely is a lot easier than D shamifying things
- 4:40for people. So I end up working with them on
- 4:42how do we remove the shame from this?
- 4:44Like, what are you feeling? Where's that shame coming from?
- 4:46And how can we navigate it so that you're still allowing
- 4:49yourself to be authentically yourself without having to
- 4:51police everything before doing it?
- 4:54Yeah, That's so interesting. Yeah.
- 4:55That's super good to know. Thank you so much.
- 4:57Everything you're saying makes sense and I would not have
- 4:59necessarily been able to answer the question for you myself, so
- 5:03I'm glad to hear about that. And do most people think about
- 5:08power play as I want to be restrained, I want to be
- 5:12spanked, I want to be blindfolded, I want sensation.
- 5:16Is it that kind of thing that most people are thinking about,
- 5:18or is it something different? I think a lot of people will
- 5:21come to me and think it is exactly those types of things
- 5:24because that is what the media has taught them exactly.
- 5:27Sense a craving for it, but they don't understand.
- 5:30So one of the first things I work with people on is
- 5:32understanding, OK? They'll tell me all those kinks
- 5:34and we'll get into the core desire that makes them excited
- 5:37about that kink. I'm like, how do you want it to
- 5:39feel? Like, why are you excited about
- 5:41being in bondage? And it's like, I just want to
- 5:43feel like I've given up total control, right?
- 5:45So it's surrendered or I just want to feel safe and want to
- 5:49when I'm restricted in some way, I feel safe.
- 5:51So I'm like, OK, so this is the feeling you want to achieve.
- 5:54You want to do it through bondage.
- 5:56There are other ways. I'll give an example of myself.
- 5:58I do like to feel powerful and I like to, I guess, hold people's
- 6:03throats. I have a partner who is not into
- 6:05that at all. But what I found was OK, I want
- 6:08to feel in control. I can't do that.
- 6:09What else can I do? So I found covering his mouth
- 6:12like is enough to make him be like, OK, I can surrender in
- 6:16that one way, nothing more. But it's sheets it for me and I
- 6:20was able to navigate past something I wanted to do and I
- 6:23was like, OK, let me redirect this into something else.
- 6:25And the reason I bring that up is that's often how kink works.
- 6:28It's like you have seen something and you're like, this
- 6:30stirred something up inside me. I'm like, all right, let's go
- 6:32one level deeper. What did it stir up how you want
- 6:34to feel? Here's your range of options to
- 6:37do that. Yeah, yeah, people do come for
- 6:39that. I have a range though, because I
- 6:41do focus on some really heavy BDSM clients, some people who
- 6:44want a full time 247DS dynamic. So some people it is just in the
- 6:48bedroom and then for others they really want to live this 24/7
- 6:51with a contract and rules. Before I even get there, I talk
- 6:55to them about like, is this something you really want?
- 6:57And I ask a series of questions. I really show them this is what
- 7:00it's going to look like. Is this what you want to sign up
- 7:02for? And then we progress from there.
- 7:04And very interesting. One of the things that I like to
- 7:07talk about is what's beyond being switchy.
- 7:10It feels to me like there are levels where the first thing you
- 7:14do is you kind of learn how to have what we see as traditional
- 7:17sex. And then you want to explore for
- 7:19more and you want to have some experiences of, you know, being
- 7:24dominant, being submissive. And I think a lot of times
- 7:27people, especially women, they start with learning how to
- 7:29completely surrender and letting go of control.
- 7:33And then as they get more confident, then they begin to be
- 7:38willing to take some control. Then they're willing to run the
- 7:42bedroom game and be a little more switchy.
- 7:45Their Switch gets smoother as they do it, and they're not
- 7:51necessarily always one way or another.
- 7:54It's like the mood. And then they move into what I
- 7:58call flow state, which is now you're with your partner, you're
- 8:02not even really paying attention to.
- 8:05There's no roles anymore. There's just flow.
- 8:08And the flow can be during a lovemaking date, you're really
- 8:11turned on and you're holding them down down, or you're
- 8:14grabbing them or you're moving them around or you're riding
- 8:18them or something like that. And then you might start out in
- 8:20complete surrender and end up in running the bedroom game.
- 8:24And I call that a flow state of sex where you kind of embody
- 8:29what we would have maybe in the old days called the masculine
- 8:32and the feminine or the dominant and the submissive.
- 8:34Now you are just, you're not even switchy.
- 8:37You're not even, I could do either one and enjoy them both.
- 8:40Now you're just in flow and it really starts go back and forth
- 8:45a lot when you're with a lover who's also able to hold flow
- 8:49states. Is there anything beyond that?
- 8:52That's super interesting because I agree completely that it's
- 8:55about energy. Even power change, it's about
- 8:57energy and energy can flow in those different ways.
- 9:01Beyond that, see that is in an energy state where you are in an
- 9:04intimate situation, I think. And that is a beautiful state to
- 9:08be. And I've had those experiences.
- 9:10A lot of kink. It's not beyond that, you know,
- 9:12that energy flow state exists. But then for some people they
- 9:14are layering on more structure and things outside of the
- 9:17bedroom. And I think it's just brought to
- 9:20its highest purest point in the bedroom that of like I'm in
- 9:24charge and you are submissive or vice versa.
- 9:27As I will say, kink is dynamic. You make of it what you want it
- 9:31to be. And I think that I can't answer
- 9:33for everyone if there's anything beyond that because for some
- 9:35there are and some there aren't. But I think you pretty much
- 9:37nailed it of like that is a through line of energy flow
- 9:40states. And sometimes you just stay in
- 9:42one and the other person stays in the other.
- 9:44But it can also switch depending on what the scene or what you're
- 9:47feeling in the moment. One of the things that I have
- 9:50been doing for the last two decades is focusing on what I
- 9:54call heart connected, conscious, passionate lovemaking.
- 9:59And to me, what I'm trying to do is move from performative sex to
- 10:07flow state sex. Incredibly competent, incredibly
- 10:12confident, no body image issues holding you back, no concern
- 10:18about having your partner contract if you do something or
- 10:22want something, like really open to what happens.
- 10:27Very loving. Even when it's highly hot and
- 10:31erotic, it's very loving and that you're not acting out
- 10:36anything you've seen, it's coming from within you.
- 10:41So one of the things that I have often found with kink is that I
- 10:45feel like many times it's very performative.
- 10:49It's what I've seen in porn or there's a certain way to do it.
- 10:55What insight could you give me about about how to become a non
- 10:59performative kinkster? So I think you are 100% correct.
- 11:04That performative kink thing, I think I always refer to it as
- 11:08the old guard. There was a time within kink and
- 11:10BDSM where everyone was like, you choose a role, you are that
- 11:14role and this is how you act within it.
- 11:16There's a new wave of kink now. That is exactly what you're
- 11:19describing of moving away from the performative side of it.
- 11:22It's not all whips and chains and none of it almost can be
- 11:25whips and chains. Like it's not always about sex.
- 11:28Sometimes it's just about experiencing impact.
- 11:31Play can fill your cup as much as sex can.
- 11:35And it's very focused on the connection and the trust built
- 11:39between two people to push things to a boundary.
- 11:42So I think that one of the things that is less performative
- 11:45now is understanding each other's limits and focusing on
- 11:48that of like, OK, this is as far as you can take it with me, how
- 11:52far do you want to go? And let's find our balance.
- 11:54So there's much more of a focus on not just one part having
- 11:58their needs met, but both people.
- 11:59And I think that alone allows it to not be performative,
- 12:02surrendering to each others needs.
- 12:04And I think that's one of the beautiful things about kink, if
- 12:07you're in the right dynamic and you're with a partner who you're
- 12:09flowing with, to use your words. Yeah, I have one more thing to
- 12:14say about the. Performance.
- 12:15Go ahead. People early on in their journey
- 12:17are performative. You have to to learn how to do
- 12:19it. Yes, let me go get all the gear,
- 12:22let me get all the stuff. I know in my 20s my wardrobe and
- 12:25toy chest was a lot bigger than it is now because I realized
- 12:29this is what I actually like. This is what I've been to.
- 12:31It doesn't need to be a big show, even though I was a pro
- 12:35Dom. So like that's another reason my
- 12:36wardrobe was really big. Do this professionally, but
- 12:40there is a lot that once you've sink into it and learn and
- 12:43really pay attention to what you like and is bringing you joy,
- 12:46that performance slips away. What are you currently really
- 12:49into? Tell me a story of a recent hot
- 12:52scene sex day you've had that was really exciting for you.
- 12:56So I'm a spanko. I have a spanking fetish.
- 12:58All of my listeners do this. I probably talk about it every
- 13:01second episode. My core desire is to be
- 13:03punished. I'd like to play with the idea
- 13:06that I am not worthy or I would feel very seen if someone said,
- 13:11I know you're not working as hard as you could be working
- 13:13right now. You could be doing better and
- 13:15I'm gonna punish you so that I set you on the right track.
- 13:18So I go to these weekend long parties maybe two or three times
- 13:21a year. And I met someone who is now a
- 13:23good friend and we created that scene together.
- 13:26And we went back to his hotel room and he got kind of mean and
- 13:30angry. And this man is like a tall,
- 13:32innocent vegan. He is the sweetest person you've
- 13:35ever met. And when I got him into the
- 13:37bedroom and we did this scene together, I was like, what?
- 13:41Who is this person? He was scary.
- 13:43And it like, it like holds me into whatever he was creating in
- 13:47a way that I was really to let go and just enjoy my fantasy
- 13:50because he was so serious. He just created so much energy
- 13:54that was outside of himself and brought me in that I was
- 13:57actually scared but knew I was safe because we'd negotiated.
- 13:59I was believing the things he was saying because we were just
- 14:02connected and he was responsive to my body so he could see what
- 14:05I was thinking by looking at me. And at least that's what it felt
- 14:09like. And that was such a hot scene.
- 14:11I like started a blog just to write to tell people about this
- 14:14scene. But it didn't lead to sex.
- 14:16There were sexual elements of it.
- 14:17It was mutual masturbation. He came on me.
- 14:20So it was intimate in that I was sort of degraded.
- 14:23But after once the scene had ended, he just picked me up and
- 14:26held me even though I was like, I felt dirty and disgusting.
- 14:29But he was just like, you did such a good job.
- 14:31And there was that sort of instant repair and appreciation.
- 14:34And then I mutually appreciated him back.
- 14:36And I don't know if I'm doing the scene justice, but it was so
- 14:38beautiful to be seen, to be taken on a journey and then to
- 14:41be held and like repaired after and told like, you are amazing,
- 14:45you are good. This was just for fun.
- 14:47That was probably one of my hottest scenes lately.
- 14:50Nice, I love that you want to hear one of my hottest scenes
- 14:53lately. I do want to hear one of your
- 14:55hottest scenes lately. So I am in a relationship with
- 14:58two men currently my husband and my boyfriend and we've done all
- 15:03sorts of things together and I really like MFM threesomes.
- 15:06I like to be dominated by two men simultaneously.
- 15:10And it was really fun. It was a really fun day.
- 15:13It was like a very masculine scene in that, and it was very
- 15:18energetic. One of the things I like about
- 15:20my sex life right now is that I'm 64 and I'm having the
- 15:25hottest sex of my life. Yes.
- 15:27And I know we want to talk a little bit about like how to
- 15:30extend your sex span as you age. Could you keep getting better
- 15:34and better at sex if you take care of your genitals?
- 15:36So I know you want to go there And I'm kind of transitioning us
- 15:39into that, I think with this conversation.
- 15:41I'm very nimble. I'm very live, I'm very
- 15:45flexible. I have tons of stamina.
- 15:47Like I've got big bicep. Look at my look how big my
- 15:50biceps are. I'm like, I'm jacked.
- 15:54And part of the reason I'm jacked is that I spend a lot of
- 15:57time on all my hands, knees. Feeling the next day when you
- 16:02realize you did a workout. I do workouts and like my
- 16:06shoulders are strong, I can be on my hands and I can be on one
- 16:09arm holding a cock in my hand going down on it for a long
- 16:15time, right I. Love that.
- 16:17And this is one of the things that I love about sex is that it
- 16:20keeps you fit, which I think is a really very underappreciated
- 16:26aspect of hot sex till you the day you die.
- 16:29I really like to start out with a yoni massage, a pussy massage,
- 16:33because it gets me engorged. And I don't like to have sex
- 16:36until I'm like, really, really engorged.
- 16:39I'm giving yourself that, massage or no, or give it to
- 16:42you. Yeah, why would I do it to
- 16:43myself when I have two men who can serve me?
- 16:45So I mean, come on. Have you taught them to do the
- 16:49massage or you're just like massage me, worship and like,
- 16:54get me there? One of the my programs is called
- 16:56Expand Her Orgasm tonight.com and it's a clitoral stroking
- 17:01technique that allows you to stroke a clit and get a woman
- 17:07into an orgasm asmic state where she can come for really long
- 17:13periods of time and each orgasm stacks more intensely and even
- 17:19longer overtime. Sometimes I like to see how many
- 17:22hours I can come, you know, like I'll come for hours and like to
- 17:25see what I can do with that because I really like to have
- 17:28all the different kinds of orgasms.
- 17:29I study orgasm and I teach people how to come.
- 17:32That's one of my best things I do.
- 17:34I teach orgasmic intercourse. I teach the 20 kinds of orgasm,
- 17:37what they are, how you can do them.
- 17:39Orgasmic techniques, because orgasms can be generated through
- 17:43locations to touch, through techniques to use like the
- 17:47expanded orgasm stroking practice, male multiple orgasm,
- 17:52female ejaculation, erotic hypnosis.
- 17:55These are orgasm techniques or objects of desire like floggers
- 18:02and neti restraints and Electro stem and, you know, whatever
- 18:06your jam. And so it's those 3 categories
- 18:09that elicit human orgasm. And so I like to try them all
- 18:13and have all the kinds of comes and get better and better at
- 18:16them overtime. And at 64, I'm coming way better
- 18:20than I came at 54 or 44 or 34 or 24 or 14.
- 18:25You know, I don't know. I had orgasms in school.
- 18:28College for me, but like I was a late bloomer.
- 18:31I'm a late bloomer too, and I think being a late bloomer is a
- 18:34really good thing because you just keep creating new trysts
- 18:37with life and expanding. It's like ever expanding.
- 18:41So I expanded orgasm and I have another program called female
- 18:45liquid orgasm, which is G spot dearmoring, G spot pleasuring,
- 18:48and female ejaculation. And so we kind of started with
- 18:51those basic techniques and then I realized I really need a lot
- 18:55of outer labia, Mon groin, my sweet little cheeks.
- 19:01I need all that pleasure too. I don't just want a finger on my
- 19:04clit or inside my vagina. I want full engorgement.
- 19:08As I started to understand engorgement, which we'll talk
- 19:12about in a minute as we get into sexual intimate Wellness your
- 19:15whole life long, the spongy tissue that we have in our vulva
- 19:18as much as our male bodied partners have in their penis.
- 19:21But we're just not taught that people aren't aware of that and
- 19:24that we need Our Lady boner. But it's really wrapped all the
- 19:28way around our vagina. It's not just the tip of the
- 19:30clit. There's this, all this tissue in
- 19:32there, but it takes a while for it to get filled up.
- 19:35When it gets filled up, it has more surface area, and that
- 19:38surface area, when you touch it, all of the nerve endings and the
- 19:42core puzzles and the mecanoreceptors and all these
- 19:44cellular components of our anatomy that send signals to our
- 19:50biggest sex organ, our brain. There's more surface area, so
- 19:53there's more signaling happening.
- 19:54So there's more intensity of orgasm, easier to come, come
- 19:58more often, come lots longer, all that stuff.
- 20:01So I like a yoni massage and my husband was giving me the yoni
- 20:05massage while they put my favorite little.
- 20:08Blindfold on me and that says fuck yeah.
- 20:10And it's fuzzy and purple and they lay me down.
- 20:14And my boyfriend did sensation play with me.
- 20:18He tickled me. He used ice.
- 20:21I had my mask on. He played with my nipples and my
- 20:25breasts with sensual oils. And he made out with me softly
- 20:29and fiercely while my husband was giving me just this
- 20:34incredible pleasure. And I was ejaculating like crazy
- 20:38after a while and just soaking the bed like I, I showed up at
- 20:42that date wanting to just squirt my heart out and I was just like
- 20:46ready to go. I just was ready.
- 20:49I was hydrated. I was elevated.
- 20:52You've been preparing, you've been hydrating all day.
- 20:54Ready for this encounter? I love it.
- 20:57Do your boyfriend and your husband usually get together and
- 21:00you have. Experience.
- 21:02We do a lot of that. Yeah.
- 21:03I've had thousands of threesomes.
- 21:04Obsessed. OK, so good.
- 21:06Yeah, I like group sex and I like to go to sex parties and
- 21:09see everybody fucking. I have a fluid bonded group, so
- 21:13we only Make Love within our container.
- 21:16I never do any mouth to genital or genital to genital contact
- 21:19with anyone outside my group. Nor do they.
- 21:21So we can have unprotected wet wild sex.
- 21:24But I love to be in in groups of people making love sensual and
- 21:29sexual communities of all kinds. So we were doing that.
- 21:33And then I don't remember what our transition was, but it was
- 21:36hilarious because we ended up, my husband loves the Liberator
- 21:40wedges. He loves those wedges and they
- 21:43restrain you. You know, you can restrain on
- 21:45them and everything. And so he had me on the wedge
- 21:49and my boyfriend had my legs up and he was fucking me while my
- 21:56husband was squatting over me and basically fucking my face,
- 22:01you know, like go yeah, like I was sucking his cock and but he
- 22:04was in control because I couldn't really move.
- 22:06But he knows exactly how to do it cuz I've done it a million
- 22:09times with him and he knows how to breathe me and he knows depth
- 22:12and stroke and all that stuff. And they time their strokes.
- 22:16So my boyfriend followed my husband's strokes so I was
- 22:22getting stroked in my pussy and my mouth simultaneously by them
- 22:27and they were taking me slowly higher and higher and Cumming me
- 22:31and I was screaming and moaning and I I couldn't see anything
- 22:35all I could just be I was swamped with.
- 22:37Cock actually getting excited as you're talking.
- 22:42I'm like, what? My body.
- 22:45It was so good and we had so much fun.
- 22:47And then after I think my husband was, his legs gave out
- 22:50after a while because he's super tall and so he's got a lot to
- 22:54hold. He's like 6, three.
- 22:55He has a lot to hold up, you know.
- 22:57A lot and be in that position and going up and down.
- 23:00But I like him to do it because it keeps him healthy and young.
- 23:03You know, he's very live and he's very fluid and he's really
- 23:07got good strength. So after we were done, I'd come
- 23:11and I was exhausted and we had to take a break.
- 23:13And we're all lying there. I'm lying in the middle and the
- 23:15two guys are lying on both sides of me and we're just sitting
- 23:17there talking about what was fun and having a good time and
- 23:19telling our favorite moments and just enjoying herself.
- 23:22And I just thought to myself, such a perfect experience to be
- 23:26with two Incredible lovers who are so comfortable with each
- 23:30other and so well tuned. And they were just willing to
- 23:33just swamp my system with pleasure.
- 23:36And they like, they'll do it for the moans, They will work for
- 23:39moaning. They love to hear me screaming
- 23:42and moaning. And over the years, I've gotten
- 23:44a lot better at that. I've become very auditory and
- 23:48it's joyful for all of us. We all enjoy it.
- 23:51And I just love all the different sounds that come out
- 23:53of my body. That's a real pleasure, too.
- 23:56And so it's just so neat to know that you can have these great
- 23:59experiences with all of this sensation and pleasure and
- 24:03slowness and hotness and swamping of, you know, just
- 24:08getting it. Yeah.
- 24:09And so that happened this week. That was a good sex date.
- 24:12But then it was funny because once I had all that, the next
- 24:15sex date that I wanted, my husband had to leave.
- 24:17He had to go down to San Diego to get some things for his
- 24:19pilot's license. And my boyfriend stayed with me
- 24:21for a few more days, and I wanted sensual, slow, romantic
- 24:27lovemaking. Like I'd had enough of that.
- 24:30And I wanted almost the exact opposite, which was just like
- 24:33lots of slow pleasuring and kissing and very erotic and very
- 24:39sweet. So do you feel that balance?
- 24:41Is it within you having both of those needs met at several
- 24:44times? Yeah, yeah.
- 24:46I have to tell you, the thing that is really striking me the
- 24:48most right now is I talk about a lot about self exploration and
- 24:52self pleasure. Your ability to document your
- 24:55own journey of just becoming more auditory like that is a
- 24:57beautiful thing that I think I have questions Like why do you
- 25:00think you were less auditory before?
- 25:02Did you just not know the pleasure that it could bring?
- 25:04Or were you more reserved in the bedroom before and being louder
- 25:08came from confidence? I'd love to a little bit more
- 25:10about that. It was the latter and you know,
- 25:13I just started out being ashamed of everything and knowing
- 25:15nothing, just like everybody. And I almost got divorced from
- 25:19my husband because I didn't want to even have sex with him.
- 25:21I'd never had an orgasm from, of course.
- 25:23And I fucked him dutifully for 12 years, and I was just tired
- 25:26of it. And we were just like, OK, we
- 25:28need to fix this so we don't have to get divorced because we
- 25:31love each other and we're best friends, but we should be best
- 25:33lovers. And we went to a bunch of
- 25:35workshops and we learned how to have hot sex.
- 25:38And I realized, oh, it's really easy to have hot sex if somebody
- 25:42just tells you what to do. I want to devote the rest of my
- 25:44life to just teaching people what to do.
- 25:46Just give people the step by step by step.
- 25:49And so that's what I started 20 years ago was doing that and I
- 25:53started out being basically barely orgasmic, totally quiet.
- 25:57I didn't even ever look at my genitals.
- 25:59I thought I was ugly. I thought my body was fat.
- 26:01I thought my boobs were ugly. And now at 64, I'm like, I think
- 26:05my boobs are incredible. I think I'm so hot and sexy.
- 26:10I don't care if there's like a little tummy pooch or Cellulite.
- 26:12I mean, I just think I feel more gorgeous than I've ever felt.
- 26:16I'm a better Comer and the reason I started moaning is
- 26:19because my current boyfriend, he is hard of hearing in one ear,
- 26:24but I could never remember which one.
- 26:26So I was just loud all the time. And I also remember that I
- 26:29started learning how to ride cock maybe six years ago, like
- 26:33late 50s. I started really like, I want to
- 26:35be on top, I want to be more aggressive.
- 26:37My confidence has gotten me to the point where I want to run
- 26:40the bedroom game and now I'll be riding my husband and screaming
- 26:46and be like, am I hurting your ears?
- 26:47He's like, oh God no. I love it so much, you know,
- 26:51because now I love to just dominate him and tell him dirty
- 26:55stories and scream and moan and ride his cock and he just loves
- 27:00it. It's so much fun for him after
- 27:02all those years of putting in. Now he's also receiving some
- 27:07really fun wild things from me, which I love.
- 27:10So this is the same husband for the 1st 12 years.
- 27:13That you 34 years with him. Wow.
- 27:15I've been with him longer than I've not now.
- 27:17He's my partner for life. We've been through thick and
- 27:20thin, sickness and health, poverty, everything.
- 27:24We've been through it all together, raised our daughter.
- 27:26She's incredible. Yeah.
- 27:28So I love that there's no life without him.
- 27:31Like the decision was to work through it and it's like this is
- 27:33the problem. There are solutions to problems.
- 27:36Let's find it and then. They're so easy.
- 27:38Yes, it's not hard to learn how to be hot in bed.
- 27:41You just need to know what to do.
- 27:42How many? Courses do you have now?
- 27:4444 books and programs. Just a wealth of knowledge, like
- 27:48a truth expert, a truth expert who lives it and reads it.
- 27:52So I really do want to get into like.
- 27:55Wellness. As you age, like how you can
- 27:58improve it? Yeah.
- 28:00What have you been working on lately?
- 28:01Like what have you discovered that has made the biggest impact
- 28:03on other people's lives on your own life?
- 28:06Remember when I was talking about how I'm coming better at
- 28:0964? My pussy's never been juicier,
- 28:12more luscious, more active, more responsive, more orgasmic.
- 28:18My husband's cock's never been bigger, harder, firmer, better.
- 28:23Nor my boyfriend's. We have Olympic quality genital
- 28:28systems, and that's because we do things to take care of them.
- 28:33And what happens is, you know how your grandma and grandpa, if
- 28:38they're still alive, they're tinier now.
- 28:40You know how they're little? They get smaller, yeah.
- 28:43We get smaller and that's atrophy.
- 28:45Our muscles shrink. Not mine.
- 28:47Like I have more muscles now than I've ever had in my life.
- 28:50I'm bigger and my thighs are like slabs of meat and I love
- 28:55it. I am moving into the last 40
- 28:58years of my life on this planet with, you know, just strength
- 29:04because that is what keeps you young.
- 29:07That and good sleep, good nutrition, good sex, good
- 29:10movement, good exercise. Those are the four factors of
- 29:13longevity. And my brains never been more on
- 29:16fire. I mean, I'm writing multiple
- 29:19books, I'm producing a documentary, I run a mastermind
- 29:22for Sexperts. I speak all over the world.
- 29:24I'm leaving for Australia next week to do a speaking tour in
- 29:27Australia. I'll be in Europe next year on a
- 29:29speaking tour. I'm just having the time of my
- 29:33life, so I'm not atrophying, I'm not shrinking.
- 29:36I'm growing, I'm building, I'm expanding and my genitals are
- 29:41expanding, not contracting. The erectile tissue in my vulva,
- 29:46my vulva vaginal system is the same as the erectile tissue in
- 29:51my husband and my boyfriends penises.
- 29:53And instead of it atrophying, we do the things that keep it big
- 29:59and plump and sending all those signals to our brain.
- 30:03And the way that we do that is twofold.
- 30:07The first is blood flow. Taking a nitric oxide booster is
- 30:10the simplest, most basic thing you can do once you hit 40.
- 30:15Eat your leafy green vegetables, eat your beets.
- 30:18But our soils are nitrogen depleted and we need the nitric
- 30:22oxide to squeeze the blood from our body into our Dicks and
- 30:27pussies. And when you can't get the blood
- 30:29in, you have loss of erectile function, loss of sensation.
- 30:34Your genitals shrink, you're on your way out.
- 30:38So the way you do that is you take a nitric oxide booster.
- 30:41The nitric oxide booster I recommend is Flow and you can
- 30:44get a free bottle of it at get flowfree.com.
- 30:50Take it anytime, night or day, it doesn't really matter.
- 30:53Take some before sex, it'll pop those nitric oxide systems back
- 30:57up and you'll get firmer. It'll get the blood flow into
- 31:00your pelvic bowl so you can get it into your Dick and into your
- 31:03clitoral, urethral, and perineal tissues of the vulva or in the
- 31:09penile tissue chambers. The second thing is using pump,
- 31:14a penis pump or a lady pump, a vulva pump, and clitoris pump.
- 31:18What it does is it uses vacuum to draw the blood from your body
- 31:21into the vulval or penile tissue to expand and keep the blood
- 31:28carrying capacity high. You need the blood to feel the
- 31:32pleasure, to get the erections, and women need as much erectile
- 31:35function as men. It's just that people don't know
- 31:38about that because we live in a Dick centered society.
- 31:42But not for long, it's all changing now.
- 31:45If you go to pumpingguide.com that has a book all about
- 31:50pumping that teaches you what pump I recommend how to do it
- 31:54for reversing atrophy, then how to do it for penile enlargement.
- 31:58What lady pump? I like what you know everything
- 32:01about it so you can learn about it.
- 32:03It's the cheapest thing you can do to keep your pussy in your
- 32:07Dick working great. I will be doing these things.
- 32:10I'm 37 like I'm serving now because I love my vagina and I
- 32:13on her that carry me through for the rest of my life so I keep
- 32:17enjoying things the way I'm enjoying them now if.
- 32:19Not better. And then from there, if you have
- 32:23more atrophy and you've kind of let it go and you didn't know
- 32:27about pumping and you didn't know about nitric oxide, you've
- 32:29lost firmness. There's not a lot of
- 32:31vascularization left in your penis.
- 32:33You're having difficulty achieving orgasm as a woman.
- 32:36Your labia are kind of like atrophied.
- 32:39You've got vaginal laxity. Your clitoris isn't sensitive
- 32:42like it used to be. Then you can get Gaines wave
- 32:45treatments. Gaines wave is where you go to a
- 32:49practitioner and they rub this wand, it's called acoustic wave
- 32:53on your genitals. It does tiny little micro damage
- 32:55that stimulates new tissue growth, grows back the
- 32:58capillaries which then let the nerves grow back in.
- 33:02So it plumps everything up and it gives you sensation and blood
- 33:07flow back at a level that just a simple vacuum erection device
- 33:11can't get you to. So it's like the next level.
- 33:14And women can do this too. I've heard men doing this.
- 33:17OK, women can do. My gains way for her.
- 33:20I get it done every three to four years.
- 33:22I go for a series of treatments and then if you have vaginal
- 33:28atrophy like thinning of the vaginal tissue, I recommend glow
- 33:32below. This is a topical vaginal
- 33:35estrogen which has it's a biased.
- 33:37It's estriol and estradiol serum.
- 33:39It's supernatural and clean. My friend Doctor Michelle Samms
- 33:42makes this. It's at get glowbelow.com.
- 33:46I always give the links to everything because people are
- 33:48like, where do I get that? So.
- 33:50They'll get the show notes, yes. So all of these things are in
- 33:52the show notes. Get glow below topical vaginal
- 33:55serum. Put it on.
- 33:56It thickens. It basically volumizes the
- 33:59tissue so that it can hold the lubrication that comes from the
- 34:05blood flow to your pelvis. So it trickles through the
- 34:08vaginal mucosal lining and wets it.
- 34:10If you can't get you got to take the nitric oxide booster to get
- 34:12the blood flow, keep the vaginal serum to keep the tissue
- 34:15thicker. It also helps you with UTI's and
- 34:19you know, just basically vaginal atrophy.
- 34:21So it reverses it and it's non systemic.
- 34:24So if you're going to take regular estrogen, you can take
- 34:27that too and then you can also add the topical.
- 34:31It's not going to give you too much estrogen.
- 34:33If you cannot take estrogen, there's a DHEA version as well
- 34:38which is non estrogenic. Some women don't want to take it
- 34:41the next. Yeah, either.
- 34:43So I love that there's that option available.
- 34:46I know exactly and very few, but there are some next.
- 34:49I also recommend this. It's called the vagina device
- 34:53and it's red light. You can probably hear it, yes.
- 34:57It's red light therapy, photobiomodulation.
- 35:00It goes inside the vagina. It stimulates mitochondrial
- 35:04growth and that mitochondrial growth helps generate more
- 35:10vaginal mucosal lining. It has warmth and Kegel
- 35:15vibrations that allow you to tone the pelvic musculature and
- 35:21the warmth helps ricolaginate the tissue.
- 35:24So you can do this as well. And then I only recommend that
- 35:28you use lubes that don't have any crap chemicals in them.
- 35:34Don't put anything on your pussy you wouldn't put in your mouth.
- 35:37I like the pleasure protocol, which is cocoa butter melts
- 35:41arousal oil and sex oil with CBD because CBD is a phyto
- 35:47cannabinoid that works with your endocannabinoid system and you
- 35:50have a ton of endocannabinoids in your tissue and that's your
- 35:57pleasure healing pathway and it keeps the tissue really good.
- 36:00This is so exciting. Like I totally like, I want to
- 36:03go experience all of these things and to understand what's
- 36:05happening is really special because even as pleasure forward
- 36:09as I am, as much as I care about self pleasure and exploring
- 36:12myself, like I do not know these things.
- 36:14So I'm super excited to try that.
- 36:16Yeah, help and affect me. Yeah, Amanda, this is what I get
- 36:20booked to speak on around the world.
- 36:22Sexual biohacking, extending your sex span to extend your
- 36:26health span. Sexual regenerative therapies,
- 36:29the four factors of longevity, which includes sex span.
- 36:33They seldom invite me either. Seldom places I can go to speak
- 36:36from stage about how to have hot sex or orgasms, but people are
- 36:40willing to talk about health. So that's my Trojan horse into
- 36:44deeper conversations around pleasure and technique because
- 36:47you can meet people in intimate Wellness and these are not well
- 36:52known. And I have honed this stack and
- 36:55these products. I've tried a million things and
- 36:58these are the ones I love. I.
- 36:59Feel that from you. You're sitting here and I'm just
- 37:01thinking it's like she's doing the Lord's work out here.
- 37:05It's like you're a preacher of hey, this is what's to come for
- 37:07your future. Here's how to take care of
- 37:09yourself now so that you can keep enjoying yourself.
- 37:12I do. I have been worried about this.
- 37:14I only found out this year that your labia can shrink.
- 37:18Yeah. And retract overtime.
- 37:20I did not know that. It's as people get closer to
- 37:23eyes on. My friends and I are all getting
- 37:24closer to perimenopause age and menopause age.
- 37:27You start hearing it more. Your Instagram algorithm serves
- 37:30you more stuff about it. And you're just like, faced with
- 37:33a lot of these things. But it's not like there's not a
- 37:35lot of solution. It's like, this is how bad
- 37:37menopause is. And I'm just terrified of it
- 37:39specifically as I'm like, no, I love her.
- 37:41Yes. OK, and now I'm learning how to
- 37:44take care of her in a way that she can be.
- 37:46You want her to be juicy and luscious.
- 37:48I call my pussy the Hanging Gardens of Babylon.
- 37:52It's like my labia are so luscious and they become me so
- 37:56well and they grip those cocks so great and I'm so wet and
- 38:00juicy. I've got no problems at all with
- 38:04orgasms and sex feels great and I can have quite a bit of sex
- 38:09and really not have any problems or any pain or anything.
- 38:14I can take a bang in when I'm in the mood with no problem at all.
- 38:18I cannot say that for myself. So I'm really like, I want to
- 38:21try this because there are things that you're talking about
- 38:24where I'm like, I actually need some of this now.
- 38:26Yeah. Of course.
- 38:27Yeah, yeah, yeah. 38. You do?
- 38:29Yeah. It's almost like you're probably
- 38:30also never too young to start. Like it's a good skin care
- 38:33routine. It's good to start taking care
- 38:35of these things now. Yeah, yeah.
- 38:36The first things I would do for you would be the vaginal
- 38:39estrogen, the glow below, get glow below and then I I would do
- 38:42the pleasure protocol with the melts and the awaken arousal oil
- 38:46and the sex oil. I would do those two things.
- 38:50They'll be your first steps with the Flow Nitric Oxide Booster.
- 38:54That's fun. That's what I want to get to.
- 38:57Yeah, get it? Take a free bottle.
- 38:59Yeah. Yeah, and I'm gonna do that.
- 39:01The pump thing is interesting too.
- 39:02I've never thought about it, and my curiosity has taken over.
- 39:05I'm trying all four of these things.
- 39:06It's like, again, once I hear about things, I'm like, no, I
- 39:08need to see how this works for me, too.
- 39:10Yeah, because again, this is something that occupies my mind
- 39:13and I started worrying about it. I wanna start working towards
- 39:16fixing it. What is so cool is when you pump
- 39:20it up, they're clear cylinders. And when you pump it up, you can
- 39:23see your little clit in there and you're like, oh, I've got a
- 39:26Dick, that's a Dick. It's exactly a little Dick.
- 39:29And then that is like, OK, well now I don't have energy.
- 39:33I've got big clit energy, let's go.
- 39:37And then you're just even more empowered.
- 39:39I love my vagina like I. You too.
- 39:42I have. You know how there's a
- 39:44stereotype of men who love their Dicks?
- 39:46Yeah. Like I love my vagina more than
- 39:48thing I've ever met loves to Dick.
- 39:49Like I get a mirror out. I'm like, she is so pretty.
- 39:52Beautiful. Know her well, you're close.
- 39:55So I'm like, I cannot wait to see her in her prime, pumped up
- 39:59and like on display. This is fantastic.
- 40:04I love it. Well, we've had fun.
- 40:06Yeah, we did. Oh my God, you the way you
- 40:10describe things too, I'm like, I feel like you must be a natural
- 40:14at these things. What would you attribute your
- 40:16growth and confidence most to if there is one thing?
- 40:19Like how did you find your confidence in going down this
- 40:22path? There were a couple things.
- 40:24First is that when my mom raised me as a feminist, today I'm
- 40:27wearing a necklace with a Susan B Anthony.
- 40:29She was the suffragette that helped women get the vote.
- 40:32A Susan B Anthony like dollar or something that came out in like
- 40:36the 70s. My mom had this made made for
- 40:39me. And she told me don't ever let
- 40:42anybody tell you what to do. You make good decisions, you
- 40:44know what you're doing, you decide for yourself, and you
- 40:47trust your gut. Nobody owns you.
- 40:49You are in charge. And that gave me confidence.
- 40:53And then I married my husband and he's been the wind beneath
- 40:57my wings. He's encouraged me, he's helped
- 41:00me grow, he's called me toward my pleasure and expansion.
- 41:05And he just cannot get enough of me.
- 41:08He just loves me so much and supports me in my growth in
- 41:13every area of my life. So I think it's the combination
- 41:17of having a lot of encouragement to be who I really AM.
- 41:23And I think that's really what's helped me.
- 41:26And then I just keep maturing like we all do.
- 41:29And I believe in myself because of those foundations, but also
- 41:32because I've just found that out of any group of people, no
- 41:37matter what, some people are absolutely love who you are
- 41:40exactly for who you are. Some people are going to be
- 41:42totally fine with who you are and they're going to be, they
- 41:45like you. And some people won't like you,
- 41:47they don't like who you are. And I am fine with that.
- 41:51Like that does not bother me. I am not everybody's cup of tea.
- 41:55I'm a lot for some people and I understand that, but that's
- 41:59their trigger, not my trigger. That's their issues, not my
- 42:04issues. So somebody's like, you know,
- 42:06she's a slut, she's a whore, she's a Jezebel, she's a she's a
- 42:09weirdo, she's a freak, whatever. I'm like actually, I don't think
- 42:13I am. I think I'm actually one of the
- 42:14more emancipated women and walking on the planet today in
- 42:18so many ways. I run two companies.
- 42:20I'm super strong. I write longevity.
- 42:23I mean, I think I'm doing Incredibles, I'm doing it's
- 42:25documentary, I'm on fire. And So what I've noticed is that
- 42:29when you step into your greatness, whatever it is, it is
- 42:33going to make some people feel triggered and diminished.
- 42:35But that has nothing to do with you and should never extinguish
- 42:39your flame. That's totally about them.
- 42:42And ultimately, you did them a favor because either you showed
- 42:46them something that's not right for them, or you showed them
- 42:49where they have some triggers for growth and that's all good
- 42:53too. But I have one more question
- 42:56because I have a lot of married couples who listen to this
- 42:59podcast and a lot of them end up being my clients because they're
- 43:03experiencing exactly what you were discussing of like being at
- 43:05that 12 year mark and being like, my pleasure has never been
- 43:08centered here. What advice do you have for them
- 43:10having gone down that path? Like can you give one piece of
- 43:13advice to a couple who might be going through that right now?
- 43:15What would you recommend? Yeah, I would say for me the
- 43:18number one thing would be Yoni massages.
- 43:20Regular unlimited Yoni massages. So she can get her pussy really
- 43:25turned on and fully engorged and she can receive without
- 43:31expectation. And that there's nothing tied to
- 43:34it. And that you just fill her up
- 43:36with orgasm and you cum the shit out of her.
- 43:40Whenever you can get her to lie down, you just cum her and you
- 43:45don't ask for anything because her coming is gift enough.
- 43:49And when she wants you, she will tell you.
- 43:52But if you give to her with the expectation you're going to get
- 43:56something, that's where things go wrong.
- 43:58Perfect amount of sense. The expectation is what's going
- 44:01to set you up for failure there. Like you have to be giving.
- 44:03Yeah. Love it all.
- 44:05We really did have fun today. Oh.
- 44:07My God. Fantastic.
- 44:08And I would love to have you back on after I try all of these
- 44:11things because I want the experience.
- 44:13I want to talk through it with someone too.
- 44:15Knows about it. OK, so we'll definitely have you
- 44:17back on early next year because I am ready to go.
- 44:20I'm like, yes, you came at the right time into my life.
- 44:23Thank you. I'll be in Vegas.
- 44:25I'm speaking at Camp B more in Vegas in I think it's like
- 44:29March. I'll send you the dates and
- 44:32maybe we can even do it in person.
- 44:34Oh my God, I would love that. Send me the dates for sure.
- 44:36All right, Susan, thank you so much for joining.
- 44:39And as I said, all of the links you spoke about will be in the
- 44:41show notes so that everyone can find their way to all of the
- 44:44great advice that you've given. Today.
- 44:45Good. I want to leave one more link
- 44:47and that is I have a newsletter, it's at betterlover.com.
- 44:51And if you like the stuff I've been talking about, that's what
- 44:53I talk about two days a week on a really great newsletter.
- 44:57And if you have any questions for me, that's how to get a hold
- 44:59of me. You can always reply to the
- 45:01Better Lover newsletter and when you reply, I get that in my
- 45:05inbox. It doesn't go to my care team.
- 45:07That's personal. So betterlover.com is the way to
- 45:11kind of stay in my world, if you like what I said.
- 45:13I love it. Thank you so much.
- 45:15I hope everyone does sign up for that because you are a wealth of
- 45:19knowledge. It's amazing.
- 45:20Thanks, Amanda. If you enjoyed this episode,
- 45:25don't forget to subscribe, leave a review and share it with
- 45:27anyone who might find it interesting.
- 45:29And if you have any questions or topics you'd like me to cover in
- 45:32future episodes, feel free to reach out e-mail
- 45:35info@thekingconsultant.com. Until next time, keep on kinking
- 45:39on.