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SHOCKING Strongman Secrets: Nick Best & Big James on Granite Stones, Supplements, and Deadlift Controversy · The Best Experience

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  Speaker 1: You're listening to the best experience with the Nick Best.
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  Speaker 2: All right, we are live.
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  Speaker 1: This is the best experience with your host.
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  Speaker 2: Nick Best and me. Never heard of them, never heard.
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  Speaker 1: Of them all. We got to guess Nick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, big James Rude my training partner since what two
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  Speaker 3: thousand and eight nine, two thousand nine, Yeah, that's right. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: every world strongest man I ever did, I trained with James.
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  Speaker 3: So he's he's kind of like the Wizard, the guy
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  Speaker 3: who I bounce things off of. He's he's he's much
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  Speaker 3: smarter than.
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  Speaker 2: I am, I believe it or not.
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  Speaker 3: So he's the good he's I mean, he's very knowledgeable,
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  Speaker 3: he's very studied. He's also very experienced. He has he
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  Speaker 3: has a world record in the granite stone for two
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  Speaker 3: hundred kilos and that he did in Fever. He was
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  Speaker 3: the very first one to do it and he still
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  Speaker 3: holds the record because nobody's done a heavier stone. So
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  Speaker 3: ly Yeah, well, the way you're training right now, I'm
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  Speaker 3: saying they're gonna have they have to go get another
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  Speaker 3: granite stone because I think you're gonna lift them all
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  Speaker 3: this year. So yeah, after your little last bit of training,
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  Speaker 3: when you're commenting about training your biceps and all of
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  Speaker 3: a sudden you're just ripping stuff off the ground.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're gonna be just fine. Oh yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So, well, it had been the weak point for me
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  Speaker 2: was gripping the stone and with the with the grand stones,
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  Speaker 2: they're really difficult to grip. As you know, they're gritty
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  Speaker 2: and they're chiseled, so it's it's like a cheese grater.
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  Speaker 2: It tears your skin off pretty bad.
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  Speaker 3: So and the tech stick to it either. Nope, it
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  Speaker 3: does not, so it makes it extremely difficult.
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  Speaker 1: That's it, all right, let's questions.
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  Speaker 3: All right, So first question, This is gonna be kind
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  Speaker 3: of a long one because they wrote a lot of
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  Speaker 3: stuff in here. So I recently saw that American astronauts
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  Speaker 3: are still doing deadlists and bench press in space. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it's pretty cool. So I feel that strength training is
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  Speaker 3: really important for us.
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  Speaker 2: It is.
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  Speaker 3: It's extremely important for us, bone density, everything else. I
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  Speaker 3: also watched a video saying that weight training puts pressure
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  Speaker 3: on your bones which helps prevent ostere prosis. Well, yeah, yes,
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  Speaker 3: one hundred percent. I'm not sure if that claim is correct.
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  Speaker 3: It is one hundred percent correct, no question. Yeah, my
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  Speaker 3: bone density is four times normal, just which is insane
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  Speaker 3: to think about, but it is. I can tell you
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  Speaker 3: I've survived some things that I probably should not have
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  Speaker 3: survived because of it. Yeah you do, you know? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah. I also like to ask whether vitamin D three, zinc,
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  Speaker 3: and selenium provide any benefit to the human body. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they do. We'll get into that, and James knows a
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  Speaker 3: lot about stuff like that too. I noticed that when
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  Speaker 3: I take supplements like zinc, my eye floaters seem to
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  Speaker 3: improve or even disappear. However, when I stopped taking them,
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  Speaker 3: the floaters tend to return. You're your own science project,
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  Speaker 3: you have. You just answered your own question. Yep, so
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  Speaker 3: it works. When I discussed this with my optimologist, they're
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  Speaker 3: not familiar with this observation and did not recommend any
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  Speaker 3: nutritional supplements. Instead, I was advised to simply live with
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  Speaker 3: the condition greatly appreciate any insight or guidance you have
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  Speaker 3: on this matter.
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  Speaker 1: You know, most doctors don't take any kind of nutritional
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  Speaker 1: or supplement class to get there to become a doctor,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, Probably like a month's work,
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  Speaker 1: but there's no like guidelines. So yeah, yeah, they answered
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  Speaker 1: their question.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, the thing you got to realize is
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  Speaker 3: is they're practicing medicine. So start with that. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: there is, They're very knowledgeable, there's no doubt in that.
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  Speaker 3: But they're still practicing, they're still learning things. There's things
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  Speaker 3: I've done for rehab where I've had, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: orthopedic surgeon go, how did you get to this point
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  Speaker 3: this fast? And I'm like, well, doc, you're paid well
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  Speaker 3: because of things that you know that I don't. Well,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not telling you for free, you know why. Well,
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  Speaker 3: it's not my responsibility to educate you. And and I
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  Speaker 3: was like, if you want to know, I'll tell you
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  Speaker 3: what it is. I'm just not paying for any more visits,
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  Speaker 3: uh in relation with this, And the doctor agreed and
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  Speaker 3: I explained it to him. And now they use a
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  Speaker 3: lot of what I told them in their protocols because
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  Speaker 3: it was pretty different. But yeah, they're still practicing, they're
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  Speaker 3: still learning things. So if you found something and it
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  Speaker 3: works for you and it's something that's healthy for the body,
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  Speaker 3: that's not going to cause you any adverse reactions. You
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  Speaker 3: answered your own question, you figured it out, absolutely, stick
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  Speaker 3: with the zinc that if it's doing that, and then.
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  Speaker 2: As far as effect is a real effect, it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: actually help if you think it does, and it does.
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  Speaker 2: I mean they've proven that actual medical study settings.
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  Speaker 3: That's true as well.
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  Speaker 2: Not everybody can be a specialist either. It's impossible for
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  Speaker 2: somebody to specialize in one thing and know a significant
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  Speaker 2: amount about other things too. It just doesn't it doesn't
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  Speaker 2: work out that way. So the nutritionists would be the
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  Speaker 2: person that you would want to be looking at for that.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, one, but I mean yeah, D Three's Inc.
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  Speaker 3: And Selenium, Yeah, they all help. Oh no, did we
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  Speaker 3: lose James?
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  Speaker 2: Oh James, he's got to lock back in.
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  Speaker 3: We lost James. Yeah, that stuff. Yeah, they all do
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  Speaker 3: great things for the human body. You just make sure
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  Speaker 3: you don't, you know, take more than what your body
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  Speaker 3: can absorb. But yeah, I mean absolutely, it's a good thing.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, we got James back.
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  Speaker 3: And like I said, I've said it several times, you're
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  Speaker 3: your own you know, lab experiment. Write things down? Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: the person guess who guess who the person is sitting,
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  Speaker 3: The person that's on this side of me on this
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  Speaker 3: screen right now is the guy that gets on me
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  Speaker 3: about writing stuff down all the time. He even got
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  Speaker 3: me a book. Mm hmmm, because he's the one that
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  Speaker 3: really keeps drilling that into my head. Even though I've
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  Speaker 3: done it for a very long time. There was a
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  Speaker 3: good portion at a time where I just it just I
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  Speaker 3: just knew it was in my head, so I could
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  Speaker 3: just go week to week to week, but you know,
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  Speaker 3: and still keep track of it all in my head
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  Speaker 3: and knowing what's going on. But James is right, you
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  Speaker 3: should write it down.
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  Speaker 2: If you really want to know for sure, then you
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  Speaker 2: have to track it. But you only change one variable
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  Speaker 2: at a time. That's difficult.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is, because people want to try and change
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  Speaker 3: three or four different things and then it's kind of
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  Speaker 3: like a shotgun effect and yeah, you got some improvement,
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  Speaker 3: but you don't know which one cause it. So you
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  Speaker 3: have to keep doing all four of those things. When
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  Speaker 3: you mail and need to do one, it sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Like you might need to increase your intake of vitamin
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  Speaker 2: D three, so you do that, and it changes a
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  Speaker 2: lot of things because it's technically a hormone and you
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  Speaker 2: want to monitor that with your blood tests. Don't want
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  Speaker 2: to go over with that one. It's not just going
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  Speaker 2: to come out in your earin.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I was saying, be very lear you
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  Speaker 3: don't take too much of the stuff. Don't take over
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  Speaker 3: what you're supposed to do with those things.
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  Speaker 2: So especially with selenium.
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  Speaker 1: Selenium is the same thing that that is something you
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  Speaker 1: can really get sick from if you take too much
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  Speaker 1: of it.
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  Speaker 2: Like brazil nuts.
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  Speaker 1: That's where selenium the most people get solenium from if
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  Speaker 1: you eat it. And you know, they always tell you
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  Speaker 1: can only eat so many brazil nuts before it'll actually
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  Speaker 1: make you sick.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, So, I mean, and this is part of the
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  Speaker 3: support group that I have around me. James has been
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  Speaker 3: the biggest support group I've had around me forever. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: if there's something between him and Ed Cohen, if there's
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  Speaker 3: anything I need to bounce off of anybody, it's those
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  Speaker 3: two I go to first, you know. And James has
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  Speaker 3: been training with me for so long. I mean, he
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  Speaker 3: knows my good days, he knows my bad days. He
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  Speaker 3: also knows when I put my mind to something and
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  Speaker 3: I start focusing on something, got pretty good likelihood of
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  Speaker 3: getting it done.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, I don't put any kind of limits on
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  Speaker 2: Nick every yet.
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  Speaker 3: Thanks, but uh, you hit a PR this week, a
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  Speaker 3: lifetime PR.
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  Speaker 2: I did the forty three. Yep, Well I'll tell everybody.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be forty three in August. Squat pretty comfortably. I
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  Speaker 2: definitely had more in the tank. So you did happy
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  Speaker 2: about that with with a brief So I've done seven
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  Speaker 2: thirty five. But it's a completely different ball game since
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  Speaker 2: I started squatting that way, spotting wrong with it and
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  Speaker 2: specific coaching. Yeah that's right, Yeah that was what it
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  Speaker 2: looked good.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was pretty darn amazing. Sad that thing and
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  Speaker 3: just drilled it right out, no slowing down or nothing.
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  Speaker 3: That was pretty neat. The cool part is I had this,
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  Speaker 3: I was right there behind you. It's it's actually really
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  Speaker 3: neat for Yeah, it's neat for me to do that
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  Speaker 3: for you, because I mean, you're You've been back there
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  Speaker 3: between all the high eight nine hundred pounds squats I've
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  Speaker 3: ever done. You've always been right there behind me, which
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  Speaker 3: is why I've always been safe. It had the confidence
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  Speaker 3: to go after it with not worrying about it. I
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  Speaker 3: could just put anything out of my head because I
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  Speaker 3: knew I was in good hands.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, well that's mutual. We've done that for each other.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and if you guys don't know James, if
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  Speaker 3: you watch him in the videos when he spotted me. Yes,
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  Speaker 3: he's six eight and three seventy three eighty So James
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  Speaker 3: James is a large man.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, oh yeah.
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  Speaker 3: And a good man. He's one of the best people
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  Speaker 3: I know, that's for sure.
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, James is one one of the people
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  Speaker 1: that actually make me feel like a normal size person
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  Speaker 1: because I'm six five and I'm like, yeah, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
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  Speaker 2: It's nice to feel people every once in a while,
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  Speaker 2: you know, you know.
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  Speaker 3: But it was James that, you know, was pointing out
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  Speaker 3: to me that I trained conjugate and I had no
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  Speaker 3: idea what conjugate was. The conjugate method, and I had
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  Speaker 3: no idea what that was. I was just like, well,
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  Speaker 3: this is what I think works for me, and it's normal.
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  Speaker 3: He's like, well, you're training very conjug.
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  Speaker 2: You vary your exercises, you rotate, You rotate your exercises,
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  Speaker 2: you rotate your rep setting rep schemes. Sometimes you're doing
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  Speaker 2: high reps. You do a lot of accessory work that's conjugate.
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  Speaker 2: Conjugate doesn't require speed work. The West Side System put
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  Speaker 2: the speed work in there because they were able to
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  Speaker 2: train more frequently with some extra speed work, and you know,
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  Speaker 2: there's additional benefits to doing things with explosive force as well.
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  Speaker 2: But conjugate doesn't necessarily mean west side m Does I
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  Speaker 2: mean bands and chains? Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Right, though I do use some bands, I don't use
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  Speaker 3: a whole lot of chains though, other than for tippable. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: it helps. So I have to start getting back up
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  Speaker 3: to the weight where that'll that'll make sense.
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  Speaker 2: Again, that's it.
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  Speaker 1: You know, James, how much of an influence as Nick
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  Speaker 1: had on you in just strong Man? And like, you know,
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  Speaker 1: because this is one of the things, you know, we
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  Speaker 1: never had an I've never had an opportunity to even
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  Speaker 1: ask you. I was like, were you doing strong Man
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  Speaker 1: before you met Nick?
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  Speaker 2: Or this is you know. Yeah, I did my first
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  Speaker 2: competition in Detroit and it was Motor City Strongest Man
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  Speaker 2: and it was Jared Spybrook's competition and two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 2: So I moved to Vegas in two thousand and nine
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  Speaker 2: and tracked Nick down and started training with him.
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  Speaker 3: Well, you walked on the street is what it did,
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  Speaker 3: which is the you lost him again, which is kind
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  Speaker 3: of the craziest thing. Here's gonna come back on and
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  Speaker 3: he's gonna we're gonna talk about this. He yea, so
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  Speaker 3: he hated Vegas and I'm gonna let him explain it
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  Speaker 3: because it's it's pretty cool. But oh yeah, oh my gosh. Yeah,
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  Speaker 3: he came down there in two thousand and nine, and
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  Speaker 3: hopefully he gets locked back in here pretty soon.
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  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, he's already coming back in.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, there is there we go. Last time I did
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  Speaker 2: one of these that didn't happen. I don't know what
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  Speaker 2: the problem is.
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  Speaker 1: Sometimes it's the Internet just cuts in and like that, you.
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  Speaker 3: Know, So go ahead, you tell the story started.
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  Speaker 2: In two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, it was a long It was a long process, right,
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  Speaker 3: I was.
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  Speaker 2: I was taking a test to apply for a police department,
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  Speaker 2: and I met a young lady and was chatting with her,
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  Speaker 2: and she wanted to get rid of her apartment. So
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  Speaker 2: about the time that I got hired to work with
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  Speaker 2: that police department and move she wanted to get rid
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  Speaker 2: of the apartment. So I took the arment over or
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  Speaker 2: when I got there, and moved her out at the
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  Speaker 2: same time I moved in, and I knew you were here,
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  Speaker 2: and I knew you through Dan Harrison.
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  Speaker 3: Actually, yeah, just passed away.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, rest in peace. Bud said, yeah, yeah, he helped me.
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  Speaker 2: He helped me get my job here actually because he
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  Speaker 2: allowed me to stay at his place. And that's the
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  Speaker 2: only reason I was able to afford to go around
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  Speaker 2: and take the test for the different departments. So thank you, Dan,
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna miss you. Yeah. So anyway, it just so
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  Speaker 2: happened that the porch of this apartment that I took
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  Speaker 2: over looked directly down the street about eighty yards to
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  Speaker 2: Nick's house.
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  Speaker 3: What are the cherries? Yeah, chances, yeah, what are the
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  Speaker 3: odds for real? So we're out there training one probably
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  Speaker 3: one weekend, and up walks, up walks this guy coming
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  Speaker 3: down the street. I'm like, man, this guy's getting bigger
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  Speaker 3: than closer and he was a little thinner back then.
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  Speaker 3: And but yeah, down, come down walking the street, it
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  Speaker 3: comes James. It was pretty cool, really was no. I
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  Speaker 3: was thought they were probably trying to foster that its history,
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  Speaker 3: foster big d.
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  Speaker 2: Who else was out there? Well? Anyway, yeah, yeah, W
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  Speaker 2: went to some competitions with Nick, sort of my name
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  Speaker 2: on the map doing where where did we go? First?
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  Speaker 2: It was findex bo I think, yeah, we did fixpo
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  Speaker 2: a couple of years. I ended up callifying for the
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  Speaker 2: Giants Live series, So I got to go to that
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  Speaker 2: a couple of times.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, on the contest we put on here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's right. That was pretty cool. Jerry Pritchett and
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  Speaker 2: I dueled it out. He took the first place spot,
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  Speaker 2: I took the second place spot, and we got we
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  Speaker 2: both got to go to Giants Life. Yep.
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  Speaker 3: Nice, that's pretty cool. It's pretty neat. You you you
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  Speaker 3: had some pressure on him there.
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  Speaker 2: Well, you know, I was never very good at deadlift,
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  Speaker 2: and I was really really bad at overhead pressed, so
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  Speaker 2: I would win all the other events and then place second,
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  Speaker 2: little last or last in the deadlift and the overhead press.
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  Speaker 2: So you're never gonna win a competition like that, even
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  Speaker 2: if you win every other event, it's not gonna happen. Mhm.
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  Speaker 2: Well I kept that that way. Yeah, better a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: M hm Oh yeah. So I mean help with help
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  Speaker 3: with my training for forever. All the news guys coming
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  Speaker 3: in James like, hey, he shouldn't be loading his weights.
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  Speaker 3: Get over there, quit talking, go help him. He's about
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  Speaker 3: the squat, so stop talking. Wait till he gets done
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  Speaker 3: with the squat and he's fine. Just wait till he's
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  Speaker 3: done squatting, So you've been there for so many like
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  Speaker 3: really cool things, like you know, eight oh five, for
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  Speaker 3: like six reps, just all the yeah, all the things.
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  Speaker 3: And then I mean, but you're the one that fiftieth
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  Speaker 3: birthday on that Walmart rack. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty crazy
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  Speaker 3: on the old white spot rack. Yeah. And then two
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  Speaker 3: weeks later did eight forty eight. And if I wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have got lighted on the first rep on the first one,
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  Speaker 3: I probably would have went after the nine oh three.
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  Speaker 3: So but that's okay, it's just how it turns out.
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  Speaker 3: But and then watching James just get bigger and stronger,
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  Speaker 3: and then watching his career take off as well. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: now you're you're you're teaching, you're you're teaching shooting, and
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  Speaker 3: then you're offstar teaching night vision, YEP, shooting as well.
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  Speaker 2: Apartment. I'm a full time firearms and structor and I
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  Speaker 2: worked for a tactical night vision company teaching classes all
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  Speaker 2: over the country two not only law enforcement, military, but
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  Speaker 2: also citizens.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, when you do those classes, what are they do?
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  Speaker 1: People even expect you to show up? Like as it's
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  Speaker 1: like the rule man, Everyone's like.
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  Speaker 2: What, yeah, well, the military law enforcement body type is
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  Speaker 2: pretty generalized.
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  Speaker 3: It's not.
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  Speaker 2: It was nothing extreme, you know. Yeah, so if you're
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  Speaker 2: ever watching the Netflix. Yeah, look sometimes if you're ever.
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  Speaker 3: Watching Netflix and you see Reacher, there's the weird one
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  Speaker 3: sitting right next exactly.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. You know, that two year old two year
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  Speaker 2: old lives down the road that calls me Reacher.
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: But legit, he's he's we lost them in legit, he's that.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: He's that good. He's I mean the stuff I've learned
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: from them and how to shoot and how to hold
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: handguns and stuff like that and my shooting skills, you know,
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: stuff I've learned from him. I mean, he's unbelievable. He's
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: a well of knowledge when it comes to stuff like that,
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: and absolute well in knowledge.
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: He truly is.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: I mean, like I said, anytime I got a question
• 19:20
  Speaker 3: about guns or training, I bounced it off for him.
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: And so that's the best way to do it. It's
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: a good resource to have with a good friend.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: So it's even.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: That right, just on everything you've helped Nick with because
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: you know also too, even when we had gone to
• 19:36
  Speaker 1: the gun range that one year for your birthday and
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: James let me shoot his rifle and I was like, Oh,
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: this is like it set the bar for me really high.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: My audio hasn't caught up. I don't know you guys
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: hear mom?
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yeah we can hear you.
• 19:51
  Speaker 2: Yes, we can hear you. You're sounding slow motion like Joba.
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: That sound like.
• 20:00
  Speaker 2: Friend quick.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: Janly.
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: Well, you know that's the one thing about doing live
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: you get technical difficulties happen.
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: All Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know we will be headed to World's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: Strongest Man come up here pretty soon.
• 20:27
  Speaker 3: So what are your thoughts on world Strongest Man this year? James?
• 20:32
  Speaker 2: Anything? Oh? I can't make out what you're saying again?
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: Oh man, James, can you hear me now? Can you
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: hear me now? Can you hear me now? I feel
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: like a cell phone commercial? Can you hear me now?
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: How about now? James? Oh the Wi Fi?
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's how it always goes.
• 21:02
  Speaker 3: Can you hear me, Bud, James, can you hear me?
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: Ah mm hmm? This makes me sad?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, are there?
• 21:19
  Speaker 3: Can you hear me? I see you're smiling sort of
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: and then freezing. Oh I lost them again. But yeah,
• 21:27
  Speaker 3: I mean anytime I have a question, He's good to
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: go to. Because he's so well read on training and
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: stuff like that as well, and he's like, well, you
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: just break the most of these. I go, no, I
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: think this works this way and this is why. And
• 21:43
  Speaker 3: then he'll sit there and consider it, and then he'll
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: actually do what I say. And then it turns around
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: and looks at me and he goes, I think you're right,
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: And so we just move forwards from there. Oh yeah,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: all right, you're back? Are you back? You're not back?
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: You just answer me? You sound like you're back. Are
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: you back?
• 22:04
  Speaker 2: Sound just like job of the hut. I'm going to
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: have to close this out. Try again. I guess, Okay,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: I'll be back.
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: All right, get a quick, a whole refresh.
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: Oh well, we'll see him shortly here. Oh yeah, but
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: I mean one year at the Fedexpo, they had a
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: yoke medley that was brutal. It was nine hundred and
• 22:31
  Speaker 3: fourteen pounds on the old IFS is set up, yeah,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: down and back. It was one thousand and seventy on
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: the same ifs a yoke, except they hung chains on
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: it to get to be one hundred and seventy pounds.
• 22:46
  Speaker 3: So the thing there, are you? Are you back?
• 22:49
  Speaker 2: I can hear it now, I'm just so, what was it?
• 22:55
  Speaker 3: Was it twelve or thirteen where they had the chains
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: on a yoke that year at the FedEx bo.
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: Man, Probably twenty twelve.
• 23:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And so you go down it's nine fourteen, you
• 23:08
  Speaker 3: come back it's twenty seventy. But there's chains all over it,
• 23:11
  Speaker 3: and it's wiggling and wobbling all over the place.
• 23:14
  Speaker 2: And you only get and set it down.
• 23:16
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you did. You couldn't drop it, And so you know,
• 23:20
  Speaker 3: I took off, ran down, dropped it, turned around, came back,
• 23:25
  Speaker 3: got the new one, flew back, and for whatever reason,
• 23:29
  Speaker 3: I could keep my balance pretty pretty good with it,
• 23:31
  Speaker 3: and I just smoked it and didn't like thirty one second,
• 23:36
  Speaker 3: there's only one other person that finished the pritchet did it?
• 23:39
  Speaker 3: Danitar did it? All these really good straw men did it.
• 23:42
  Speaker 3: And the only other guy that finished was overst did it.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: He didn't finish. Yeah, he didn't finish. No, because they
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: all tried to go too fast.
• 23:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the time first, for whatever reason I
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: can't remember, I must have done pretty well in the
• 23:55
  Speaker 2: event before that, because I got to go after the
• 23:58
  Speaker 2: last or close to last, and it was it must
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: have been the tire flip before that. Yeah, it was, yeah,
• 24:03
  Speaker 2: because I would have been top two on that one. Anyway,
• 24:08
  Speaker 2: I got to see what everybody else did, and I
• 24:10
  Speaker 2: knew all I had to do was just not put
• 24:11
  Speaker 2: it down, so just uh, you know, flow and steady tortoise.
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but like he was the only other person to
• 24:21
  Speaker 3: do it. Everybody else dropped it on the second half
• 24:24
  Speaker 3: of it. So the two of us, we're the only
• 24:26
  Speaker 3: two to finish that year. It's pretty cool. It's pretty
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: neat getting to compete with him as well.
• 24:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you know.
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: The one of the things I'm always scrubbing through videos
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: with Nick and every swamp you pop through, oh there's
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: James and I always try to make sure I say
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: save those ones if you second send them over.
• 24:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, thank you, I'll put them on Instagram. Oh yeah,
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: that last one you sent me had Dan Harris and
• 24:50
  Speaker 2: I together, so mm hmm. It was a good timing.
• 24:56
  Speaker 3: That's pretty cool.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, you know, we're we were just talking
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: World's Strongest Man. What are your thoughts on just what's
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: happened with this year's World Strongest Man with the competitors
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: coming in.
• 25:09
  Speaker 2: Geez, I don't know. Rain O'Nell kind of came out
• 25:11
  Speaker 2: of nowhere and did really well last year. So yeah,
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: he looks like he's doing pretty well. Tom's always always
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: a top contender for Worlds. I would expect him to
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: be in the top three. And man, there's a bunch
• 25:24
  Speaker 2: of guys that are great now Hooper, Hooper's tough to
• 25:28
  Speaker 2: beat mnop. Yeah, it looks like Martin's is looking pretty
• 25:36
  Speaker 2: good too. Yeah neat, he doesn't seem to be as
• 25:38
  Speaker 2: beat up as he was. No, I remember when Martins
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: was a kid coming to train with us.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: I know, we go down to Oates House and train
• 25:48
  Speaker 3: down there. Martins had come up and train with us
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: up here. Yes, yeah, it's pretty neat you know that kids. Yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: so I he's got no off switch though. He can
• 26:01
  Speaker 3: push himself beyond the breaking point. There's guys that can
• 26:04
  Speaker 3: do that, and there's guys and it's pretty rare and
• 26:07
  Speaker 3: he's one of them. So it's if he if he
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: needs it that day, and this difference between winning and not,
• 26:15
  Speaker 3: he'll he's got that little extra gear to get it that.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: She just really was always very strong and extremely athletic,
• 26:23
  Speaker 2: very athletic. Mm hmm, really good figuring out techniques yep.
• 26:29
  Speaker 3: Yeah. And then I mean Ode had had gave him
• 26:32
  Speaker 3: a lot of experience at early age as well. I
• 26:35
  Speaker 3: mean he was down there and practice.
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: He had all the equipment too. That's that's a deal
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: to be able to train with the actual equipment.
• 26:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah, down at his house and stuff. And I remember
• 26:49
  Speaker 3: Martinez is the one that showed me how to pick
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: up the isle shield, which was pretty funny how that
• 26:56
  Speaker 3: worked out. And then I really read I really honed
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: that one in and ended up pretty good with that.
• 27:03
  Speaker 3: So yeah, mediocre. So yeah, but it's it's just been
• 27:12
  Speaker 3: pretty neat. And man, I just can't thank you enough
• 27:14
  Speaker 3: for being for it there for all those years and
• 27:19
  Speaker 3: all the stuff. I mean, like I said, it's good days,
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: bad days, everything. James has been there through them all.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: He really has. I mean, putting water heaters in addicts
• 27:30
  Speaker 3: and put it. Yes, yes, So the first house I
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: bought the water heater was in the attic, oh my god,
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: and it broke and it flooded down into Jess's room
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: and you had to shot off the water of summer in.
• 27:50
  Speaker 2: The summer where the yeah, it's like super hot up there.
• 27:58
  Speaker 3: We take the thing out and then which taking it
• 28:03
  Speaker 3: out wasn't nearly as bad as getting the new one
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: in there. James is down on the ground. I'm like
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: trying to lift it up through the attic, and James
• 28:11
  Speaker 3: was like pushing it up, and thank god he's as
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: tall as he is, because that may get that thing
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: into that attic a whole heck of a lot easier,
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: let me tell you. And then the two of us
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: trying to crawl through the attic space probably ten feet
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: from the opening, we lost them again. Yeah, it was
• 28:31
  Speaker 3: good ten feet from the opening, and we're trying to
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: stand on the rafters, you know, and not step into
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: the sheet rock and fall straight.
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: To exactly exactly.
• 28:41
  Speaker 4: So it's not easy. Yeah, it's it's pretty cool. But yeah,
• 28:52
  Speaker 4: he's coming back your back apparently.
• 28:55
  Speaker 2: It's going to be a continuous problem tonight.
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all right, it's it's okay, it's good. But yeah,
• 29:02
  Speaker 3: I mean we're walking with that thing, trying to carry
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: it to the raptors and not.
• 29:07
  Speaker 2: Step to the floor. We kind of strong manded up
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: there too. We didn't really use our brains.
• 29:12
  Speaker 3: Real, Oh no, that was all just brute force, no thought,
• 29:17
  Speaker 3: just we're going to do this and it's going this
• 29:19
  Speaker 3: way whether it likes it or not. And the good
• 29:22
  Speaker 3: thing is, yeah, the two of us were strong enough
• 29:24
  Speaker 3: to make sure that was not an issue. So it was.
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: It was pretty cool and there's yeah, there's just a
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: lot of stuff exactly so much.
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: And are you headed to FEA this year?
• 29:37
  Speaker 2: James, I think so. I hope so. I have to
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: make a couple of things fall in line in order
• 29:45
  Speaker 2: to do it, but that is my plan and I'm
• 29:47
  Speaker 2: going to try and break that stone record again.
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you will. The way you're looking this year,
• 29:52
  Speaker 3: I don't think that's going to be an issue.
• 29:54
  Speaker 2: Well, you were talking about it before, but I've been
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: ripping the stones off the ground in a way that
• 30:00
  Speaker 2: I never had before. It's not that it feels lighter,
• 30:03
  Speaker 2: it's just that I'm able to grip them better.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, And it's just like, when you can grip it
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: that good, you can put that kind of pressure on
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: it with confidence, because the last thing you want to
• 30:13
  Speaker 3: do is pull on something super hard and you go
• 30:16
  Speaker 3: slipping and you go flying. That's how you get hurt.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: So yeah, when you can grab a hold of it
• 30:22
  Speaker 3: and have confidence where you can just turn turn the
• 30:24
  Speaker 3: gas on full blast and not worry about it.
• 30:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, grip is the hardest part on those particular stones
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: because they're so gritty. It's like grabbing a A normal
• 30:33
  Speaker 2: stone is like grabbing a chunk of sidewalk, and these
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: stones are like grabbing a chunk of dirt road. Just
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: grab Yeah.
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, because once I thing gets to your lap, it's
• 30:44
  Speaker 3: all over. Yeah, that's all done. There's a poop up
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: on the up on it's going to go. So yeah,
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: I'm pretty stoked on getting to see that this year.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: I cannot wait. Yeah, you're making the four to forty
• 31:01
  Speaker 3: stone here, look really stupid.
• 31:03
  Speaker 2: Yeah it was last year. We'll see how it goes.
• 31:05
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be Yeah. My train up to th four
• 31:09
  Speaker 2: will start in two weeks.
• 31:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you got that thing up to what sixty
• 31:15
  Speaker 3: four last year?
• 31:18
  Speaker 2: Is that what the third one is? We went for
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: the fourth one and I didn't quite make it. It
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: was close, but I got bruising up and down my sternum.
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah that was actually that was sixty two. Yeah, that
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: was sixty two.
• 31:32
  Speaker 2: It caused muscle spasms in my intercostal muscles and I
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: was unable to breathe. I would have random muscle spasms,
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: It couldn't breathe. It was obnoxious, no reason to try
• 31:41
  Speaker 2: and go that high. We only went that high because
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: suddenly it was so easy to lift off the ground,
• 31:46
  Speaker 2: it was not so much of a challenge anymore. So
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: we decided to see how high I could lift the thing. Yeah,
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: and that was higher than necessary.
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was really high. So it's pretty awesome, especially
• 31:58
  Speaker 3: when I've got a forty eight and you're doing sixty two.
• 32:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, that's it's pretty serious. So but the next
• 32:09
  Speaker 3: stone up.
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: Is about for eighty five mm hmm. I think that's right.
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: And then and then one after that somewhere around five
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: twenty five.
• 32:18
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and I think he'll get both. I think he'll
• 32:20
  Speaker 3: get both of them. I really do, right, You gotta
• 32:25
  Speaker 3: be able to grip it, that's all. Yeah, I do
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: the Yeah, I think you got that figured out too.
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: I really don't think that's going this year. You need
• 32:35
  Speaker 3: to do the wait for height to while you're there
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: this year. Yeah.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Well that's unfortunately, because when I squatted on on Monday,
• 32:45
  Speaker 2: that was this was supposed to be my week off
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: before the Highland Games because I'm supposed to try and
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: break the world record. Yeah, at the Las Vegas Highland Games. Okay,
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: HGF and I had to choose between that and going
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: to dance general, So I'm gonna be going to dance yeah,
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: Memorial Service instead.
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Well, give everybody in my love. I'd like to
• 33:11
  Speaker 3: be able to go, but I'm not gonna be able
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: to make it. Yeah, freaking sucks.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: Well I understand. Yep, it does. Here's my age, Yeah,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: So yeah, yeah, So we'll be headed down the world's
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: strongest man uh in a about a week.
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: M yep.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll be down all there Myrtle Beach and most
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: people you know. Uh, we'll be posting videos daily so
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: everyone can be able to watch it and check it
• 33:45
  Speaker 1: out and keep updates with us and stuff like that
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: going on. So uh, that'll that'll be pretty fun. And
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: then uh even too. It's like coming up is the
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: Enhanced Games, but we're not one hundred percent sure. We're
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: still waiting on them to get back to us, and
• 34:00
  Speaker 1: we'll actually see if we'll be there to see if
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: we can see Mitch and thor try to beat that record,
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: you know games what Yeah, what do you think about that?
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: That dea mm hmmm.
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: We'll be there in Vegas. Right, yeah, we'll be there.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah in Vegas.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, it's crazy, it's like invitation only. Yeah, so.
• 34:25
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's it's hard to get into it. But yeah,
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: we'll be there. Oh yeah, we lost change again.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Well, like I said, well, we'll be headed down to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: the world to enhance games, checking that out and get
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: you know, going going from there, and.
• 34:40
  Speaker 3: Then uh yeah in May, yeah, in May.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: Exactly, and you know, and besides that, you know that
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: that that's pretty much our lineup for what we got
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: things scheduled out to check out and do and you know,
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: so it'll be a lot of fun, you know.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he's.
• 34:59
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, checking my internet I have starlink doesn't normally
• 35:03
  Speaker 2: happen well, And.
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: That's one of those things too. Is the one thing
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: about Internet is some days it'll be great and then
• 35:09
  Speaker 1: I had days when where it just shuts me down
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: and I can't do anything.
• 35:14
  Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
• 35:15
  Speaker 3: Mine's pretty consistent. It just gets slow sometimes, but it
• 35:19
  Speaker 3: doesn't really cost that much.
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: You were talking about half Thor going after his.
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: Record, Oh yeah, half Thorm and Mitch you know, going
• 35:27
  Speaker 1: going because like it's a huge it's going to be
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: a huge payday for who breaks that record.
• 35:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Mitch doesn't seem very confident about breaking that one
• 35:35
  Speaker 2: to me, so I don't know, but I'll about half
• 35:38
  Speaker 2: thor does.
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think is pretty confident with that.
• 35:44
  Speaker 2: Interesting in the tank, they've talked about some of the
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: parlor for guys coming after that dead lift too. You
• 35:51
  Speaker 2: know Jamal Browner, cold ningle Brack, those guys that are majors.
• 35:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Jamal brown and he didn't. He didn't really do
• 36:02
  Speaker 3: as well pulling it conventional, and then Colton would be interesting.
• 36:10
  Speaker 3: He's just not going to get as much out of
• 36:12
  Speaker 3: the bar pulling conventional as he does pulling sumo. I
• 36:15
  Speaker 3: mean he gets good five inches bar five inches out
• 36:18
  Speaker 3: of a bar. I would love to see these bars
• 36:20
  Speaker 3: throwing the garbage. I think they've absolutely destroyed the integrity
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: of the deadlift.
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think it's really the sumo deadlift that
• 36:28
  Speaker 2: people have a huge problem with. It's the combination of
• 36:31
  Speaker 2: the sumo deadlift and the new bars. Yeah. Yes, I
• 36:35
  Speaker 2: think they're they're comparing them to people who did squat
• 36:38
  Speaker 2: mentioned deadlift all in the same bar.
• 36:39
  Speaker 3: Same bar.
• 36:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 36:42
  Speaker 3: I think the sports should actually get back to its
• 36:44
  Speaker 3: roots as far as that goes, and go back to that.
• 36:46
  Speaker 3: It's the only probably the only thing I agree about
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: with the IPF is because you don't see these crazy
• 36:52
  Speaker 3: deadlifts in the IPF. Why because the bar gives about
• 36:55
  Speaker 3: a half an inch before it comes off the ground
• 36:58
  Speaker 3: for Sumo or any of them, And yeah, they're the
• 37:03
  Speaker 3: advantage is gone.
• 37:05
  Speaker 2: Even with a standard conventional deadlift, that bendy bar doesn't
• 37:10
  Speaker 2: bend nearly as much as it's the sumo and the
• 37:13
  Speaker 2: convention or the the sumo grip and the bendy bar combination.
• 37:16
  Speaker 2: That's the problem because it's such a narrow grip and
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: the weights are so far out to gets so much
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  Speaker 2: bend out of it. I pulled those nine hundred pound
• 37:25
  Speaker 2: rack poles the other day on that and the rope
• 37:26
  Speaker 2: bar is one that I've heard pro powerlifters complain about
• 37:29
  Speaker 2: being so flexible or so stiff, having so little bend
• 37:33
  Speaker 2: and geez, I think I pulled that thing afoot before
• 37:36
  Speaker 2: it even picked it up. Yeah, I was off of
• 37:39
  Speaker 2: a from knee height, so I couldn't compare a standard
• 37:42
  Speaker 2: bar that I was using, and it was just a
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: cheek bar that bends more than a real like your
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: Illeco bar don't been like that. Yeah, I couldn't compare
• 37:51
  Speaker 2: those two lifts.
• 37:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm to the point with powerlifting I think everything
• 37:54
  Speaker 3: should be just done on an a Lico bar. I
• 37:57
  Speaker 3: think the Kobookie bar has completely just the integrity of
• 38:00
  Speaker 3: the deadlift just just completely destroyed it and the other
• 38:05
  Speaker 3: dead of the fly those. Yeah, it's about. It's about.
• 38:10
  Speaker 3: It's a little it's got more, a little bit more
• 38:13
  Speaker 3: given to the rug bar, and it's just you shouldn't
• 38:16
  Speaker 3: get four or five inches of bend out of the
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: bar before it comes off the ground.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: It just you should make it a different lift, that's
• 38:22
  Speaker 2: for sure.
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: It's completely different lift. And I mean Cohen didn't lift
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: on that. You know, all the all the greats from
• 38:29
  Speaker 3: back in the day, they didn't lift on that. You're
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: you're trying to inflate numbers, not by being stronger, you're
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: changing the equipment to make it easier. And it's it's just.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: Like, well they did that for a while with the
• 38:42
  Speaker 2: suits and shirts yep, yep, and that kind of went
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: by the wayside too. Mm hm. As far as I know,
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: I know, there's very few people that still do double ply.
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and even the single ply, which is what everybody
• 38:56
  Speaker 3: did back in the day, that's not even that common anymore.
• 39:00
  Speaker 2: No, So you know I didn't have a problem CrossFit.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Crossfits made some big changes.
• 39:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, I have noticed one thing about suits though.
• 39:15
  Speaker 3: Your hip longevity is going to be a whole lot
• 39:18
  Speaker 3: better in one and a single ply that that that's
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: going to give you a boatload of help. Like the
• 39:25
  Speaker 3: double ply with the double ply group briefs and everything else,
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: but just a simple single ply squat suit it will
• 39:31
  Speaker 3: probably give you an extra ten years out of your
• 39:33
  Speaker 3: hips because I know, Yeah, ask me how I know, Well,
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: because all of a sudden, I've been like dying with
• 39:43
  Speaker 3: the way my right hipsmen feeling, and it's just it's
• 39:46
  Speaker 3: not it's rough. And then I go and I put
• 39:49
  Speaker 3: a squat suit on just just to try it one day,
• 39:52
  Speaker 3: just to see what happened, and all of a sudden,
• 39:54
  Speaker 3: I just drive seven to twenty five like it's nothing,
• 39:57
  Speaker 3: and it's just like oh okay, well hmm, there we
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: go and there goes James. So I mean it's yeah,
• 40:06
  Speaker 3: it made a really big difference and just felt way better.
• 40:11
  Speaker 3: It really did, and it's not going to help me
• 40:14
  Speaker 3: that much. But the pressure it takes off the hip
• 40:17
  Speaker 3: joint itself, it's going to do a lot for longevity.
• 40:21
  Speaker 3: I do not say go in the double ply suits
• 40:24
  Speaker 3: or the groove briefs and all that other stuff. No,
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: just a simple single ply. Shoot, we're probably squat suit.
• 40:31
  Speaker 3: We're probably giving an extra five to ten years, maybe
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: even longer into that, you know, into surviving and keeping.
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: Your hips in one pieces. They originally designed the bench
• 40:46
  Speaker 2: shirt in the first place for shoulder problems, right, yes,
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: to protect the shoulder joints. Well.
• 40:50
  Speaker 3: I think Ernie Frantz said he figured it out from
• 40:54
  Speaker 3: a spacesuit that he saw the astronauts walking like this,
• 40:58
  Speaker 3: you know, getting onto one of the rockets to take
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: off towards the moon. And that's what gave him the
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: idea of making the bench shirts. And so he did that,
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: and then some other lady patented it, like any type
• 41:13
  Speaker 3: of different sleeve angle other than normal. She patented that,
• 41:18
  Speaker 3: and then John Inzer bought it and then had control
• 41:21
  Speaker 3: of the shirts until you know, till the pat wore out,
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: and then after that it all they all went really
• 41:29
  Speaker 3: crazy after that because the original bench press shirts, the
• 41:32
  Speaker 3: blast shirts that he had were so so you get
• 41:35
  Speaker 3: maybe twenty thirty pounds on it. It took you peel
• 41:38
  Speaker 3: the skin off your fingers and you just kill yourself
• 41:43
  Speaker 3: getting the thing on. You might get twenty or thirty
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: pounds out of it, and if it was too if
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: it was too tight, the shirt would tear. So as
• 41:50
  Speaker 3: soon as that was over and all everybody else's designs
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: came in, the shirts like improved dramatically to where even
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: the single play shirts now will give you like two
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: to three hund pounds of them, which I think is nuts.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: But yeah, that's pretty massive.
• 42:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah it really is. But I think you know bench
• 42:12
  Speaker 3: withinout the shirt. I'm I'm okay with that. I think
• 42:17
  Speaker 3: the squats and squats, if you want to do it
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: in a single playsuit, I think it's going to have
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: some longevity. I think wrapping your knees is also going
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: to help a lot with longevity, because I don't think
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: the nie leaves will protect your knees as well as
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: knee wraps. Well, I think they'll help. I wear them
• 42:37
  Speaker 3: for strong Man, but I wouldn't put on a pair
• 42:41
  Speaker 3: of leaves to help with squats, no matter how tight
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I could get them on.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: It's just I started using those when I started training
• 42:47
  Speaker 2: with you, and I think it does make a difference.
• 42:50
  Speaker 2: I won't go heavily without them. Yeah, I think it
• 42:56
  Speaker 2: does protect them.
• 42:58
  Speaker 3: I get up to three fifteen and I put my
• 43:00
  Speaker 3: knee ups on. You know, it's just that automatic. I
• 43:04
  Speaker 3: don't put them on tight. It doesn't have to be.
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: It doesn't have to be tight for the warm upsets
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: to get they get tighter the weight it gets heavier.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: Yepp.
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: And the compression that you get out of those are
• 43:17
  Speaker 2: they don't compare to your nie leaves. They're not as
• 43:20
  Speaker 2: good as wraps for squads.
• 43:23
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and if you feel something kind of weird in
• 43:25
  Speaker 3: your knee, you can actually self adjust the support to
• 43:30
  Speaker 3: where you feel you need it as you're wrapping them.
• 43:33
  Speaker 3: Whereas you get to sleeve, there is no adjustments. It's
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: just you slide it on. And they have all Yeah,
• 43:40
  Speaker 3: they have all kinds of different ways to slide them
• 43:42
  Speaker 3: on now and get them on to where they're like
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: two or three sizes smaller than what they're supposed to be.
• 43:48
  Speaker 3: But well, I deal with that. Just put a pair
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: of earraps on, Yeah, put a pair of nee wraps
• 43:57
  Speaker 3: on if you really want to worry about how much
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: support somebody is getting. Just that's easy. Go to two
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: and a half two point two and a half meters,
• 44:07
  Speaker 3: don't allow the three meters. Just stay at two and
• 44:09
  Speaker 3: a half. You can only wrap it around so much
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: and maybe even have a weight requirement on it.
• 44:16
  Speaker 2: Because you get.
• 44:16
  Speaker 3: These guys that are down in the one, fourteen, threes,
• 44:19
  Speaker 3: one thirty two, one forty eights and stuff like that,
• 44:22
  Speaker 3: they can wrap it around about a million times, where
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: you get the super heavyweights that'll go around about four
• 44:27
  Speaker 3: times five times maybe, So get it at two and
• 44:31
  Speaker 3: a half meters and then for the little guys, give
• 44:33
  Speaker 3: them two meters. Make it even so stuff like that.
• 44:37
  Speaker 3: But I'm probably gonna get tortured by all the little
• 44:40
  Speaker 3: guys now for coming. But you know it's okay.
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, well, James, we're getting a little close to
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: the end there. I was gonna say, is there anybody
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: you like to shout out or any sponsors or.
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: Talk about the night vision stuff too?
• 44:57
  Speaker 2: You go, oh, yeah, we're doing training class. This is
• 45:00
  Speaker 2: a tactical night vision company TNBC dot com. So that
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: would be if you're interested in that, that would be
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: the way to go. There are very few companies that
• 45:09
  Speaker 2: are reputable. There's a lot of them out there. And
• 45:12
  Speaker 2: we'll get guys who pay for top end quality equipment
• 45:16
  Speaker 2: and they get spec sheets on them and they send
• 45:19
  Speaker 2: it in for repairs, and they paid for this very
• 45:25
  Speaker 2: expensive American too, and that's what they paid for. That's
• 45:29
  Speaker 2: what they've got, right. Well, they get them in the
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: service center and they pull them open.
• 45:32
  Speaker 3: And oh, he'll be back, He'll be back, that's it.
• 45:41
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he can explain also too. Well when he comes back,
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: you know, we'll put all this in the notes and
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: stuff like that, so you can find James and find
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: all the stuff that he is talking about here too.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: So that'll help out a lot, you know what I'm saying.
• 45:57
  Speaker 3: All right, you're back and back.
• 46:00
  Speaker 2: So they put this money, yeah, and they're not working
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: right of course. So they send them in and one
• 46:06
  Speaker 2: of the techs gets them apart, and they've got labels
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: that are either Chinese or Russian on them. Well, this
• 46:13
  Speaker 2: is there's some shady stuff going on. And most of
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: those companies they are just somebody in his garage. Whereas
• 46:18
  Speaker 2: Technical night Vision Company, you know, it's a legit company.
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: It's been around for twenty years. We have a whole
• 46:23
  Speaker 2: staff of experienced people to do training courses. So if
• 46:26
  Speaker 2: that's something that interest you. I'm also working with task
• 46:30
  Speaker 2: Force seventy, which is John Chapman's organization along with Hillsdale College.
• 46:36
  Speaker 2: They're doing training for cops, particularly of rural agencies that
• 46:41
  Speaker 2: don't have access to a lot of training and equipment
• 46:43
  Speaker 2: on their own. So that's a five A one C
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: three nonprofit organization that they're running. You do, guys training,
• 46:52
  Speaker 2: We're doing that too. Nice.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: Nice put all those links in the notes if you
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: If James, you have those, send them on over and
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: then we can make sure you know people out here
• 47:01
  Speaker 1: can get that for us.
• 47:03
  Speaker 2: One of these.
• 47:04
  Speaker 3: Days we need to take fanny packs and sneak the
• 47:06
  Speaker 3: nods into a escape house. Give me sett a new record.
• 47:12
  Speaker 3: I'm getting out of the escape all right, sneak in
• 47:16
  Speaker 3: the laser.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: I wonder what the heck's going on?
• 47:19
  Speaker 3: Like, oh, who, these guys get out in like two minutes.
• 47:22
  Speaker 3: I think that'd be kind of fun. But where else
• 47:25
  Speaker 3: can they find you?
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: James a real strong taxicle on Instagram. I don't all
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: my posts go over to Facebook too. I still got
• 47:34
  Speaker 2: to get that set up. There's just not enough time
• 47:36
  Speaker 2: in the day, too many things going on.
• 47:39
  Speaker 3: I know a guy who's really good at it. Yeah,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: that's true, So I think you. I don't think i'll
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: have a problem help anybody.
• 47:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but if you can find Nick on Instagram, you'll
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: find me.
• 47:51
  Speaker 3: Too, Okay, right on? All right, is there anything else
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: you got buye?
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: No, thanks for having me, good chatting as always.
• 48:01
  Speaker 3: Yeah, well, hey, thank you for everything for all the years.
• 48:04
  Speaker 3: I mean I I wouldn't wouldn't want masters without you.
• 48:07
  Speaker 3: I wouldn't one set all the world records and power
• 48:09
  Speaker 3: the thing without you. I wouldn't have set all the
• 48:11
  Speaker 3: world records and straw man with that. To you, I
• 48:14
  Speaker 3: only broke. So I just love you, brother, and uh yeah,
• 48:22
  Speaker 3: I appreciate you. So well that's it, folks. Uh, it's
• 48:27
  Speaker 3: another episode. There's always you know, like sharing. Subscribe. Please
• 48:30
  Speaker 3: go follow James at Instagram and look up the Nods company.
• 48:35
  Speaker 3: It's it's a pretty cool thing, and it's always trained hard,
• 48:38
  Speaker 3: train smart, and be the best you can be until
• 48:42
  Speaker 3: next time
• 49:00
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