Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / The Sales-Branding Connection: How Customer Focus Shapes Your Brand Identity
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. If
- 0:03you've been enjoying our relationship so far, if
- 0:06you've been enjoying the episodes, then when you're
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- 0:11a review. Okay, apologies, today's an out
- 0:15and about recording, so expect to hear the usual
- 0:18interruptions. Although today I don't think I'm
- 0:20close to any chickens, so we shouldn't get any
- 0:23interruptions from chickens. So
- 0:27today we're going to look at building a powerful
- 0:29personal brand. But before we do that, I'd
- 0:32like to talk about something that has come up
- 0:34in the news, or at least the kind of news that I
- 0:37follow. There's a podcast that I listened
- 0:39to called Tech Point, Tech Point Africa podcast. I
- 0:43think that's the name, Tech Point Africa podcast. But
- 0:47they usually have Tech Point in all their
- 0:48branding, so if you just take your podcast player
- 0:51and type in Tech Point Africa, Nigeria, something
- 0:54like that, they should show up. And
- 0:56in that news, they spoke about a Kenyan company that
- 1:01is a FinTech, that just raised funding for their
- 1:03series B, and they're able to raise $20 million. Now
- 1:07the reason why I'm bringing this up today is just to
- 1:10let you guys know that a lot of the stuff that we
- 1:12talk about here on the podcast is not just
- 1:14theoretical. It's highly practical, it's real
- 1:16world, it's stuff that is going on. So
- 1:18when I'm making the podcast episode about how to sell
- 1:22your FinTech ideas in Nigeria, it's not because
- 1:24I'm trying to be high for lootin'. It's
- 1:26just that this is stuff that is going on right
- 1:29now, so people are actually doing that. So
- 1:31you have bright young boys and girls in Nigeria and
- 1:33in Kenya, coming up with interesting FinTech ideas
- 1:39and raising good funding for it. Because
- 1:43$20 million, it might not be much in terms of
- 1:46dollars, but by the time you come back home to the
- 1:48African continent, exchange rates, you multiply that,
- 1:51and it's quite a good chunk of change to start
- 1:56your business idea. Now the company in question, I
- 1:59didn't note down the name because I was doing my
- 2:01usual. When I'm listening to podcasts,
- 2:03I'm just out and about driving. Oh
- 2:06by the way, when I'm listening to my podcast and
- 2:08I'm driving, I'm not using headphones, so don't do
- 2:11anything silly. I'm using Bluetooth through the
- 2:14car speakers and then going for a stroll, stuff like
- 2:18that, so I didn't write down the name of the
- 2:19company. But I do remember that the
- 2:22problem that they're trying to solve, that's the Kenyan
- 2:25company, is they're trying to make insurance accessible
- 2:28to low income farmers. Because
- 2:30we don't have a culture of insurance in Nigeria and
- 2:32apparently we don't have a culture of insurance in
- 2:34Kenya either. And with the kind of losses
- 2:37that low income farmers face, okay let's bring it
- 2:41back to Nigeria, you know, banditry, full -on -e issues,
- 2:44you know, they come and destroy your farm crop.
- 2:48What else? You
- 2:49know, you get the whole idea. Oh
- 2:51and then climate change, changing weather, you know,
- 2:53all those sorts of things. So
- 2:55the losses that the low income farmers are making
- 2:59is quite high and then there's nobody in the
- 3:02space, whether it's a government or private
- 3:04actors, that are making good on these losses. So
- 3:07that is what this fintech, there's a problem that this
- 3:10fintech is trying to solve. Now
- 3:11they mentioned on the podcast, you know, which is
- 3:13quite true that in this part of the world, you
- 3:16know, we don't send insurance, you know, God is
- 3:17in control of everything and I'll sort myself out
- 3:19if anything happens. So if you go and tell low
- 3:23income farmers that hey buy our insurance product and
- 3:25then people are just going to laugh at you. Because
- 3:27well first off, what are you saying? What
- 3:29is insurance? So what this fintech did was
- 3:33they partnered with banks in Kenya and with
- 3:36government agencies so that the insurance premiums, you
- 3:39know, the monies that would be paid and all what not
- 3:41are priced into seedling price, fertilizer, you know,
- 3:45things of that nature. Now because I'm not in that
- 3:47space, I'm not an agric person, I don't know the
- 3:50details of how this sort of thing works, but I just
- 3:52wanted you guys to see that the things that we're
- 3:54talking about here are live and practical. And
- 3:57one of the recommendations that I gave in the
- 4:00episodes where I spoke about selling your fintech
- 4:02ideas in Nigeria, you know, I did talk about how you
- 4:05should partner with local agencies because it gives
- 4:07you access to other stakeholders and a wider
- 4:11customer base. So you can see that people
- 4:15are carrying out these ideas live. So
- 4:18these young boys and girls in Kenya, oh and by the
- 4:20way, the reason why Tech Point was talking about it,
- 4:23Tech Point Nigeria was talking about it was
- 4:24because they also plan to do operations in Nigeria as
- 4:27well to get low income farmers on insurance
- 4:32products. Yeah, okay, yeah, so one of the
- 4:37things I spoke about is how you could partner with
- 4:38banks and you can see it live and direct that people
- 4:40over in Kenya, well obviously without listening
- 4:44to the podcast. Who knows, maybe they listen to
- 4:46the podcast. That is one of the strategies
- 4:48that they are trying to do, they are partnering
- 4:49with banks and they are partnering with governments
- 4:51so that they can gain access to low income
- 4:54farmers who are underserved in the financial value
- 4:57chain. So yeah, so that was me just
- 5:02sharing the news, just to let you guys know that all
- 5:04the things we talk about here on the podcast are
- 5:06topical, they are timely, they are applicable, it's
- 5:09not just theory. So maybe you might listen to
- 5:11a podcast episode and think, hmm, this doesn't
- 5:13apply to me. But rest assured, I'm looking
- 5:17for concrete topics and I'm trying to answer concrete
- 5:19questions. So rest assured it applies to
- 5:21someone and the best that we can do is to take
- 5:24these principles and theories and even if it
- 5:28doesn't apply to us now, see how we can find
- 5:30corollaries that apply to our own business context
- 5:33today. So now that we're done with
- 5:37the news and that is out of the way, let's go
- 5:40straight to the question on building a powerful brand.
- 5:44Now, for those of you who have
- 5:45been listening from the beginning, you know because
- 5:50I have strut it time and time again that the whole
- 5:52point of this podcast is not to come and talk about
- 5:54things like brand. In fact, I am the anti -brand
- 5:58guy. So brand is primarily, is not
- 6:01my primary focus. But however, whenever I am out
- 6:07in public engagement, whether it's one on one
- 6:10trainings or things like that, the question
- 6:12ultimately comes up, how do I build a powerful brand?
- 6:15So as much as I am the anti
- 6:17-brand guy and I try to stay away from talking
- 6:20about brands, I always get the question about brands
- 6:24and so I guess I can avoid it. And
- 6:25some of you may have been listening to the podcast.
- 6:28We have over 830 episodes now.
- 6:31I'm sure some of you have
- 6:31listened to a couple, maybe a few dozen or maybe a
- 6:34hundred and you're thinking, why is this guy not
- 6:36talking about brand? So today's your day. I'm
- 6:38going to talk about brand. So
- 6:40the reason why I don't talk about brand on the
- 6:41podcast is because I think it is not the most
- 6:44important thing that you need to get your business
- 6:45going. Also because I think that sales
- 6:49and business development already has implications for
- 6:52brand perception anyway. In other words, if you do
- 6:55sales right and you do business development right,
- 6:59you are already reinforcing your brand. So
- 7:02that's my own thesis. And so we are going to examine
- 7:07that today to see how sales and business
- 7:09development principles can help reinforce your brand.
- 7:14So I'm talking about brand but
- 7:16in a way I'm wearing around about and I'm
- 7:19talking more about sales and how that can influence
- 7:21your brand. So if you've been listening to
- 7:25the podcast for any length of time, you know that I
- 7:27keep talking about how sales practices and
- 7:29principles have implications for brand. And
- 7:31one of them is uniformity and consistency. And
- 7:34that's a problem that lots of people face. You
- 7:36know, when you go and you get a brand person first,
- 7:39these are some of the mistakes that you make. You
- 7:41go ahead and then you create this wonderful,
- 7:43compelling brand. Then you start your actual
- 7:47business and interact with customers. And
- 7:51then the customer experience and all what not now
- 7:54becomes that odd with this brand that you guys created
- 7:58in the strategy room or at your board meeting or
- 8:02whatever. Let me give an example. The
- 8:05few of yous are back in Abuja. I
- 8:07was queuing to buy fuel a couple of days ago. It
- 8:09was a two hour wait, but luckily, okay, no, not two
- 8:12hours. Let's say more like one hour 30,
- 8:15one hour 45. So luckily I was queuing at
- 8:20night and this was a filling station that I was
- 8:21going to sell late into the night. So
- 8:23we was cool and it wasn't too hot and uncomfortable.
- 8:27And then a NEPA truck pulls
- 8:30in. Well, first of all, it's not
- 8:31NEPA. It's now called the Power
- 8:32Holding Corporation of Nigeria. So
- 8:34for those of you who are not Nigerians, those are
- 8:36the people who are responsible for our power
- 8:38infrastructure to make sure that we get electricity. So
- 8:41the thing comes in and it's the brand clearly is
- 8:45on is there on the truck and it says PHCN. So
- 8:49not even PHCN, it says I'm AEDC. That's
- 8:52the Abuja Electricity Development Corporation. Now
- 8:55power has been really crappy around where I live
- 8:58in in a boat in Gherki in Abuja. And
- 9:03so the thing pulls in on the queue and then all of
- 9:06a sudden the attendants start hurling insults at
- 9:09the AEDC officials. And of course the brand is
- 9:13there on the truck saying AEDC, but everybody keeps
- 9:18calling them NEPA. So you see what I mean? I'm
- 9:22sure billions of Naira. Okay,
- 9:23maybe not billions. Millions of Naira was probably spent
- 9:25on coming up with the PHCN branding and with the AEDC
- 9:31branding. But on the streets, everybody
- 9:33is still calling you NEPA. Then
- 9:38people are harassing them because the logo on the
- 9:40truck was a beautiful logo and then he had that,
- 9:44what's it called? Something about the you and
- 9:47everything. You know how everybody today
- 9:49when they're coming up with brands, they try to make
- 9:51the brand all you focused on. You
- 9:53know that whole thing. And well anyway, I'm not
- 9:57legitimizing what was happening because even
- 9:59though we have misgivings towards our public utility
- 10:02companies, it doesn't give you the right to start
- 10:04harassing NEPA officials and water board officials
- 10:07because they're in the Nigerian space like we are.
- 10:11They're suffering the same sorts of
- 10:12inequities that we are. So they are angry just like
- 10:15we are. So the fellow on the queue,
- 10:17QA also for two hours just like us was also angry. So
- 10:21it doesn't give you the right. So
- 10:25lots of money spent on the brand. Let's
- 10:28see what else on the brand positioning, but it doesn't
- 10:30adequately reflect the reality that is on the
- 10:33ground. But if, let's say AEDC decided
- 10:38to do what it is I recommend, which is engage
- 10:40a sales professional first. With
- 10:43sales professionals, you're able to pick out where the
- 10:47customer experience is flawed, where things are
- 10:49breaking down, where you need to improve. Because
- 10:52these are things that you need to work on before you
- 10:54can drive revenue and would have been able to come up
- 10:57with a much more honest brand positioning at the
- 11:00end of the day. Because if my guess is if they
- 11:04had a sales professional first to come in and to
- 11:07look at the whole thing, it will be obvious that
- 11:09these companies AEDC, Ikeja, Distribution Company back in
- 11:14Lagos and all these other companies are dealing with
- 11:16insurmountable problems to try and deliver electricity
- 11:19to people. And I think if they come up
- 11:22with a engage the services of a sales professional
- 11:24first, whatever branding that they would have come
- 11:27up with later on would have been built around
- 11:29themes or ideas of working harder to service you or
- 11:33working harder to improve your life or whatever. And
- 11:36that actually is much more honest brand positioning
- 11:38that customer service people, that their engineers
- 11:43and people like that can actually rally around.
- 11:46Because you can actually say that
- 11:47we are working hard to service you or working hard
- 11:51to improve your position and working hard to
- 11:53whatever. Because it would have been a much
- 11:56more honest narrative that would have come out of
- 11:58trying to solve problems on the ground rather than
- 12:01sitting in a boardroom under air conditioner and
- 12:04thinking what should our brand positioning be. And
- 12:06then you spend millions of Naira and then come up
- 12:08with something and then it's ineffective. Now,
- 12:11I deliberately picked the worst possible example to
- 12:15go with on purpose just to show you how wrong these
- 12:19sorts of things can get. That
- 12:20you have corporations because now AEDC, Ikeja,
- 12:25DC, Power Holding Corporation, what people now
- 12:28call NEPA, they are actually private companies.
- 12:31But it shows you the extent to
- 12:33how bad things can go. That
- 12:36private corporations can spend plenty of money
- 12:38bringing brand and public relations people. You
- 12:41come up with wonderful campaigns that have no
- 12:43relations or what's that word, no relations. Yeah,
- 12:48let me stick with relations, no relations to
- 12:50what it is actually is going on the ground. So
- 12:54that's one of the reasons why I recommend that you
- 12:56get a salesperson first because we salespeople,
- 12:58we're not pying the sky, we're not thinking about
- 13:01high -financy things. As is just, okay, we're here,
- 13:04what's the problem, where the revenue shortfalls, who
- 13:07are the customers, what are the problems we're facing,
- 13:09how can we solve all our problems. And
- 13:11in the midst of trying to solve all these problems,
- 13:13we get a lot of data that is going to be useful for
- 13:16the brand people later on. So
- 13:18if you're calling a meeting with your branding folks,
- 13:19you say, this is who we are, these are the
- 13:21customers we service, these are the problems that we
- 13:24solve, these are the challenges that we have,
- 13:25this is where we want to go. You
- 13:27can come up with a much more honest narrative. So
- 13:30that's more for all thesis. But
- 13:31in a micro context, in a smaller way of breaking it
- 13:35down, if you're doing good sales and business
- 13:38development practices, you're going to get a uniform and
- 13:41consistent process. So if you run an electricity
- 13:44company like my brothers and sisters in AADC, then
- 13:49there's going to be a uniformity or consistency
- 13:51with the engineering crew, with the customer service
- 13:54crew, with the people in corporate office, with head
- 13:57office, because we can't solve sales problems if
- 14:00everybody is singing from the wrong script. So
- 14:02we actually have to make sure that everybody is
- 14:04singing off of the same script, the same framework,
- 14:07the same processes. And then if you do sales
- 14:11right, it leads to an improved customer experience.
- 14:15And like I said, you get all
- 14:16the data that you need from trying to run sales
- 14:22motions and business development practices,
- 14:27because going out, you own the customer relationship,
- 14:30you're trying to figure out who the customers are,
- 14:32you're trying to figure out what their problems are,
- 14:34you're trying to figure out the best way to pitch your
- 14:36product and your service. You
- 14:38get a lot of data that can help you inform what
- 14:41logo should I use, what color will resonate with
- 14:44these people, what kind of font will resonate with
- 14:47these people, what kind of tagline should we use that
- 14:50these people, sorry, by the way, when I say these
- 14:52people, I mean our customers, what kind of
- 14:54tagline should we use that will resonate with these
- 14:56people and stuff like that. So
- 14:57how are we going to go about our marketing
- 14:59positioning? So it's only when we try to
- 15:01do sales right that we get all of this information,
- 15:03all of this data on our ideal customer profile, then
- 15:07we're able to work on our branding and our market
- 15:13positioning. Okay, so 15 minutes. Now
- 15:16let me give you guys some concrete steps on things
- 15:17that you need to do to build a powerful brand.
- 15:23Okay, yeah, so let's look at
- 15:24some concrete steps. So number one, define your
- 15:26niche and expertise because there's no point in
- 15:29building a brand in vacuum. So
- 15:32all these other brands that you guys like, whether Coca
- 15:33-Cola or Nike or Apple, they have a clear idea of
- 15:37who it is that they're trying to target. So
- 15:40when Apple is coming up with all their brand
- 15:41positioning and things like that, Apple is not bothered
- 15:44about me because when I say me, I mean me, Tavish
- 15:47Amar is an individual, because they know that
- 15:49somebody like Tavish Amar, when it comes to tech, I'm
- 15:52a prostitute basically. So right now I'm using the
- 15:55Xiaomi 13C. I really love its
- 15:58capabilities, really powerful phone, solid phone, and I
- 16:01suspect that I will use, buy another Xiaomi when I'm
- 16:05moving on from this one. But
- 16:07I've used everything. I've used Nokia, I've used
- 16:10Samsung, I'm using Xiaomi, I've used, okay, I haven't
- 16:16used Techno, but I'm prostitute when it comes to
- 16:18phones. So I move up and down. So
- 16:20Apple is not concerned about me. The
- 16:24branding, their positioning, their targeting, their
- 16:27everything, you know, is tied towards, is trying to
- 16:30attract a certain kind of person. Gosh,
- 16:34how I like explain this. Okay,
- 16:36you know what, let me not say the wrong thing and
- 16:37then I get into trouble because maybe it sounds
- 16:38like I'm insulting iPhone users. But
- 16:41you guys get the point. So Apple is not worried about
- 16:43me. They are not trying to come up
- 16:45with branding or advertising or positioning that is
- 16:48going to capture people like me. So
- 16:50because they know the niche, the market they
- 16:54serve, the customer they serve, it helps them to
- 16:56come up with very precise and clear branding. So
- 16:58you need to know that. And running good sales plays
- 17:02helps you with that. Because
- 17:04it's when you go out into the market and you try to
- 17:05chase a couple of people that you realize that, you
- 17:08know what, these kind of people like our product,
- 17:11these kind of people don't like our product. So
- 17:13in future, let us ignore men between the ages of
- 17:16social so on, so living in this part of the city in
- 17:18Nigeria who earn this kind of income. And
- 17:20let us only target women and senior citizens between
- 17:25the age of this and this, earning so on, so living
- 17:27in this part of the country and blah, blah,
- 17:29blah. So all these things, the
- 17:31demographics and the psychographics, they're
- 17:32important in coming up with your brand. So
- 17:34define your niche, define your expertise. And
- 17:38in my own opinion, please do not define your niche
- 17:41and your expertise in the boardroom. Don't
- 17:43sit down in your house with your business partner
- 17:47or with your husband or your wife and then
- 17:49academically try and define who your niche is. Come
- 17:52up with a guess. Now, okay, for this business
- 17:54that we're going to do, we're going to target blah,
- 17:56blah, blah, blah, blah. Then
- 17:57go out in the market to try and see that you might
- 17:59drum off some business. You will discover that your
- 18:01people where you make the most money from and that
- 18:04you have the best relationships might not be
- 18:06the same kind of people that you thought of when
- 18:08you were sitting down in your room or in the
- 18:11boardroom or when you were meeting with your investors
- 18:14or other stakeholders or whatever. So
- 18:16define your niche, define your expertise. Then
- 18:20another tip that I'm going to give is that you guys
- 18:23should be creating content consistently. Move
- 18:26on social media because it's also one of the
- 18:28things that helps to define our brand. And
- 18:32in my own opinion, the content you should be
- 18:34putting out should be to showcase your expertise
- 18:37because we're trying to become a trusted resource.
- 18:39If you're one of these people
- 18:40who wants to put out entertaining content, you
- 18:42want to be pointing and dancing and TikTok and
- 18:44stuff like that. Yeah, that's also part of
- 18:46building a brand, but it's not something that I have
- 18:48expertise in. You know, I don't dance, I
- 18:50don't point, I don't work. So
- 18:53I can give advice on that. So
- 18:54that's the kind of content I think you guys should be
- 18:56putting out. Then one thing that I want to
- 18:59point is regarding social media is that we should be
- 19:01deliberate with our social media. So
- 19:04that means when I say deliberate, I mean come up
- 19:06with an idea and come up with a plan. Don't
- 19:07jump from one thing to another. So
- 19:09back with this whole thing of trends and everything.
- 19:11If you are pointing and
- 19:13dancing today, trying to put out expert content
- 19:16tomorrow, then putting out memes next tomorrow, and
- 19:20then taking pictures of what it is that you eat
- 19:22and then sharing pictures of your children on
- 19:24Saturday and Sunday. That's a little bit all over the
- 19:27place and doesn't lead to a consistent brand. So
- 19:29you need to be deliberate and come up with one
- 19:32thing, one core idea and then just push it from
- 19:34there. Now I'm going to use the worst
- 19:37possible examples again that I can come up with just
- 19:39to prove a point. Now let's look at former
- 19:41President Trump for those of you who are Americans.
- 19:44And then for those of us who
- 19:45are Nigerians because we know what's up, what's
- 19:47going on in America, what's going on over here. Let's
- 19:50use current President Tinumbu. Now
- 19:52it is obvious that Trump is deliberate about social
- 19:55media. He knows who he is talking to
- 19:57and that determines the kind of content that he
- 19:59puts up. So whether you like Trump or
- 20:02not, it is very clear that he is deliberate about what
- 20:06he puts up. Now our beloved President on
- 20:08the other hand, doesn't seem to be, you know, they
- 20:12don't use social media in a deliberate manner. So
- 20:16between the two, I'm not saying one person is good
- 20:19and one person is bad, but I'm asking the question,
- 20:21between Trump and Tinumbu, those of you Nigerians who
- 20:24are listening, who has a clear brand? Does
- 20:26Tinumbu have a clear brand? The
- 20:28answer is no. Does Trump have a clear brand?
- 20:31The answer is yes. So
- 20:33regardless of whether you fall, when it comes to
- 20:35political affiliations or whatever, the whole point
- 20:38about social media is that we need to be deliberate
- 20:40and we need to be very clear who am I talking to.
- 20:43That will now inform how it is
- 20:46that you use social media to enhance your brand. But
- 20:49then again, if you're like a current President, you
- 20:52know, Tinumbu and coming up with a brand is not
- 20:55important because you have other plans for trying to
- 20:58achieve what you want to achieve. And
- 20:59I guess you can shirk the whole branding thing. But
- 21:02for those of us who are in private practice,
- 21:05corporate practice, business practice, we can't run away
- 21:08from these issues. We have to be deliberate about
- 21:11our branding and our market positioning. Then
- 21:13we should also be networking to try and build
- 21:15our brand. We're trying to build professional
- 21:17alliances and collaboration. So
- 21:21we have to be deliberate about networking. Then
- 21:23when it comes to brand building, really have to be
- 21:26authentic. And you know, that's where the
- 21:28AEDC, former network companies, that's where they
- 21:30fall flat. You know, there's no
- 21:32authenticity there. They're talking pie in the sky.
- 21:35They're talking aspirational. This
- 21:36is what we want to do and everything. But
- 21:39they're not being authentic. They're
- 21:40not having an honest conversation using their own
- 21:42perspectives. So in your own business, don't
- 21:45fall into that whole trap. Use
- 21:46your own perspective. And don't copy other people and
- 21:50make sure that you're talking about stuff that is
- 21:52relevant to your own audience. So,
- 21:56okay, I started off in the wedding photography space.
- 22:00So let me go back to my
- 22:01constituency. There are wedding planners who
- 22:03try to do a premium brand positioning and all those
- 22:07sorts of stuff. So like, why are you forming
- 22:10premium brand positioning when you're the kind of
- 22:13company that your clients, the halls that they use
- 22:16are? Maybe these halls in Garuki,
- 22:18maybe like those halls in area 8 or area 3, area
- 22:2610, those kind of small halls. And
- 22:28you're putting premium positioning. I
- 22:30mean, who are you kidding? That
- 22:32is not a premium experience. Be
- 22:34authentic. If that is the kind of market
- 22:37that you're serving, that particular kind of
- 22:41demographic. Sorry, by the way, I'm not trying
- 22:44to talk down to... Okay, let me stop there before I
- 22:49get cancelled or say something wrong. What
- 22:51I'm just trying to say is I'm not trying to talk
- 22:53down to anyone. I'm just saying that let's be
- 22:54honest, let's be authentic. If
- 22:56you're not doing premium nothing, then don't try and
- 22:59put premium messaging as part of your branding and
- 23:03market positioning. Let's keep things authentic to
- 23:06our perspectives, to our experience, to your own
- 23:10lived experience and things like that. So
- 23:13don't copy anybody. The people who are doing
- 23:16premium brand positioning, the bigger halls in wedding
- 23:19halls, who say to those halls that sit 2500 people
- 23:23and you're able to call Davido to perform for the
- 23:27audience and things like that at the wedding. You
- 23:30know, those kind of wedding planners, yes, they're doing
- 23:32positioning themselves as premium brands. You
- 23:35know, it's okay for them because it's authentic to
- 23:36them because it is part of their perspective and part
- 23:39of their lived experience. If
- 23:41you're not there yet, then don't try and make that as
- 23:43part of your brand positioning. Keep
- 23:45everything authentic. It also will make your
- 23:49marketing communications much more clearer. If
- 23:53you're positioning yourself as premium brand, but the
- 23:56market that you serve is actually the area 8, area
- 23:5910, area 3 crowd and they see premium. They
- 24:02will think, ah, this guy is expensive, this girl is
- 24:04expensive and they will run away. She
- 24:07actually might be shooting yourself in the foot by
- 24:08doing that whole premium branding positioning thing
- 24:12when actually you are not. So,
- 24:14if you're not there, who say to massive event hall,
- 24:20importing musicians from Lagos, kind of wedding
- 24:23planner, watch area 8, wedding planner, area 3
- 24:26wedding planner, you know, then just keep your
- 24:33branding, keep your messaging, keep it
- 24:36authentic. Let me put it that way. Okay,
- 24:38over 20 minutes. Let me bring things to a stop.
- 24:42So anyway, that's it for
- 24:43today. Let's see, summary. What
- 24:47did I say? Anyway, in summary, I just said
- 24:50that sales has implications for how you do branding.
- 24:53So do good sales and business
- 24:55development practices first. When
- 24:57you have all the data on who is your customer, how
- 25:00do you start conversations, where do your customers
- 25:02live, how do you build relationships with them,
- 25:05what are the kinds of conversations that you have.
- 25:07When you sorted out all these
- 25:09things with your sales team, then you can now
- 25:11call a branding person to say, Olga brand specialist,
- 25:15Madam brand specialist, please help us come up
- 25:19with branding, document, brand positioning,
- 25:22everything. And this is all the information
- 25:24that we have for you. Then those people will be able
- 25:26to do a very good job because they have all the
- 25:28information they need. It won't be people sitting
- 25:30down under the AC and guessing about what the
- 25:33brand should be. It will be because you've done
- 25:35good business and you know because you've been, you
- 25:38know, your shoes are on the ground. You're
- 25:40interacting with your customers. So
- 25:41you know for a fact that these are what your
- 25:44customers like. This is what they care about.
- 25:47This is what they hate. This
- 25:48is what they wish people could do better. You'll
- 25:50not be able to come up with a solid business brand
- 25:55or the personal brand. But remember that you also have
- 25:59to be deliberate about it and we should also be
- 26:03authentic about it. So let's not copy what other
- 26:06people do. Another person's brand looks really
- 26:09nice. It doesn't mean it should be
- 26:11your brand, their own experience, their own
- 26:14customers, their goals, their shortcomings, their
- 26:16relationships are different from yours. So
- 26:20thank you very much guys for your time and
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- 26:49episode.