Latest / Closing Sales in Nigeria - Sales For The Nigerian Business Person: The Sales and Marketing Blueprint / Funding Solutions vs. Funding Skills: The Key to Business Growth
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- 0:01Hello and welcome to the show. Today I'm out and about South.
- 0:05Expect to hear some interruptions in the background
- 0:08today on the podcast. I'm going to be speaking in code
- 0:11to Wonder Woman. Now, when I say Wonder Woman, I
- 0:14don't mean the real Wonder Woman.
- 0:16I mean not the DC character and not Gal Gadot who actually
- 0:20played Wonder Woman, at least the last iteration of Wonder
- 0:24Woman. I'm just doing the same thing
- 0:25that I normally do on the podcast.
- 0:27I'm going to be speaking in code to a podcast listener.
- 0:31I'm not going to use a real name.
- 0:32So I'm just going to be calling her Wonder Woman in this episode
- 0:35and in the next series of episodes that follow because
- 0:39Wonder Woman and I, you know, been chatting about a couple of
- 0:41things. And let me just put it this way.
- 0:46There's some things that I'd like to say, but I didn't quite
- 0:49say. So I'm just going to speak in
- 0:50code over here. So Wonder Woman, not the real
- 0:54Wonder Woman, of course, if you suspect it's you.
- 0:56Yeah, it's actually you. I'm just speaking in code.
- 0:59And for the rest of you who are listening, even though this
- 1:03episode is addressed to someone in particular, please hang
- 1:06around because you're going to hear some things that might
- 1:08apply in your business, and also because we're going to address
- 1:11some universal questions as well.
- 1:15Also, another reason for you to hang out is because I've been
- 1:18saying since last year that I'm going to make a podcast episode
- 1:21about why if you're a young woman, you shouldn't go into
- 1:23business with your boyfriend. And I figured the time has come
- 1:27for me to make that podcast episode.
- 1:29Well, at least to address that question.
- 1:31So Wonder Woman is not in business with her boyfriend, but
- 1:34there is some guy who is hanging around who wants to finance the
- 1:37business, but she doesn't want to go into business with him
- 1:39because of his, you know, some questionable work choices he has
- 1:44made or business choices that he has made.
- 1:46And so I figured now is the time for me to go ahead and make that
- 1:49podcast episode just in case you're a female listener of the
- 1:52show and you're like Wonder Woman, trying to do your thing,
- 1:55trying to do your hustle. And there's one guy around that
- 1:58is kind of cutting out for you. Maybe he is, maybe he is not,
- 2:02but he's thinking of dropping money in your business.
- 2:05Maybe he is, maybe he's not. You guys go into business
- 2:08together. Maybe you do, maybe you don't.
- 2:11Yeah, I'm going to finally start addressing some of those issues,
- 2:14but it will be in today's episode.
- 2:15So you have to hang around, go past today's episode, you know,
- 2:19and eventually we'll get to that part of the story.
- 2:21So Wonder Woman, again, not the DC character and not Gal Gadot.
- 2:28In fact, my wife wouldn't even allow me to see Gaga dot because
- 2:31I think Gaga dot. I think she's a fine bee, but I
- 2:34think she needs to eat up sharp because I think she's too, she's
- 2:37too Bony. She needs to drop off small.
- 2:39So if you know any Hollywood person who knows Gaga dot or if
- 2:43you know Gaga dot, tell her that she has a friend over here in
- 2:45Niger who says that she needs to eat up that she's too.
- 2:48She's too Bony. She's too like, but she needs to
- 2:51puff up small. So Wonder Woman, the listener of
- 2:55the podcast, is a Spotify follower of mine who is based in
- 3:00Makudi in Benroy State. So I consider her my home girl.
- 3:03Well, of course, she's not from Benroy State.
- 3:07She just attends the university which is based there.
- 3:09There's a State University there which has been around since the
- 3:15Sixties, 60s or 70s, I can't remember.
- 3:17Anyway, so she attends that university, She's into catering
- 3:22and all fine things, cuisine. She's been in the cooking
- 3:24business since 2023. And one of the things that she's
- 3:30complained about is that she has had a lack of funds to actualize
- 3:33her business. Yeah, I have.
- 3:35This is the main thing I wanted to talk about today because
- 3:38there are lots of you who are stepping into the new year and
- 3:41who are thinking that the reason why our business is not moving
- 3:44is because of a lack of funds or thinking, or if only I could
- 3:46raise funds, the business would move and blah, blah, blah.
- 3:48So that's going to be one of the central questions that I'm going
- 3:51to address over here today. So for her, she says a lack of
- 3:55funds won't allow her to actualize her business because
- 3:58when she says she wants to actualize her business, now pay
- 4:00attention to this. She wants to deliver large
- 4:02quantities of food. She wants to deliver large
- 4:04quantities of soups or rice or peppered meat or pasta, you
- 4:08know, all those kind of things. You know, in fact, I think I
- 4:12should become good friends with Wonder Woman so that when I am
- 4:14in Makudi, I can eat for free because this sounds like a good
- 4:18menu. And then so lots of stuff anyway
- 4:20that she wants to, that she wants to do.
- 4:23And so she needs funds to actualize her business.
- 4:25And that's the reason why I'm tackling this today, because
- 4:27there's some of you who want to actualize your business.
- 4:30You want to move things to the next level.
- 4:31You want to move to the permanent sites.
- 4:33You want to know whatever it is you want to do.
- 4:36And you think now lack of funds is the problem?
- 4:39So the central question for today is, is lack of funds the
- 4:43real issue? Some of you will say, yes,
- 4:49American universities agree with you because they keep on putting
- 4:52out this report year after year after year.
- 4:54You know, like Harvard, you know, all those type of schools
- 4:57saying that finance and lack of funds is the main reason why
- 4:59people go out of business. But the main reason why people
- 5:03go out of business is not a lack of funds.
- 5:06The main reason why people go out of business is an inability
- 5:09to sell. And this if you're not convinced
- 5:15anyway, let me just go ahead and explain my thesis.
- 5:17So again, yes, Harvard says that the reason why people go out of
- 5:22business is because of lack of finance and poor funds.
- 5:25Average Nigerians on the street said that the reason why
- 5:27businesses fail is because of lack of funds.
- 5:29No finance. I say and a couple of other
- 5:32people say that the main reason why businesses go out of
- 5:35business is because or why they're Hanford from growing is
- 5:39because of a lack of sales skills.
- 5:41And This is why because if you want to finance your business
- 5:44from the beginning of time up until now, that's from the time
- 5:47of Cain and Abel. OK, we don't know what Adam and
- 5:51Eve did, but at least we know that Cain and Abel, they had
- 5:54their own hustle. So Cain was hunting and Abel was
- 5:58a farmer. So they're doing their own
- 5:59hustle. So since the time of Cain and
- 6:01Abel, if you wanted to raise finance for a business, you had
- 6:06to do a couple of things. You had to do some
- 6:08bootstrapping. Bootstrapping just means you are
- 6:11running this business from your savings.
- 6:13So when Abel decided that, oh, sorry for those of you who are
- 6:17Muslims, I'm sorry, I don't know the Arabic versions of of those
- 6:21names, so I can't use the Arabic versions.
- 6:23But what I'm referring to, or rather the the names I'm playing
- 6:28with basically are just the children of Adam, Adam and Eve.
- 6:32So when Abel wanted to start his farming business, he ever had to
- 6:34look at his savings, you know, look into his lion cloth and
- 6:38say, OK, how many calories shells do I have to go and buy
- 6:42land? Or how many calories shells do I
- 6:44have to go and buy seedlings, yam seedlings, maize seedlings,
- 6:48you know, stuff like that. That is bootstrapping.
- 6:51You check your bank accounts. You look at your pocket.
- 6:55Maybe you even go and talk to Mom.
- 6:57See, Popsy, you know, so Abel would have called Adam his
- 7:00father and say, hey, Popsy, how far Now Say I'm good, I'm good.
- 7:03Where are you doing? I'm just chilling.
- 7:04Which side? I'm around that Garden of Eden
- 7:07side. OK.
- 7:08Are they come? Are they come?
- 7:09And then you go and then have the conversation.
- 7:11And I say, look, Pops, I beg. I want to start farming.
- 7:14Just raise me some cash. Let me buy land, let me buy
- 7:16seedlings, that sort of thing. All that that is bootstrapping.
- 7:19You're looking at your savings, look inside your pockets.
- 7:22Go and talk to mom, see talk to your brother, talk to your
- 7:24sister, talk to your cousins, all that.
- 7:26All that is bootstrapping. So from time immemorial up to
- 7:29now, that is one way that you finance your business.
- 7:32Go on bootstrap. Then the second way is by sales
- 7:39or revenue. This is what sales or revenue
- 7:43means. It means you actually go out and
- 7:45try and sell something to someone.
- 7:48The goal is that when you sell something to someone, you make a
- 7:50small profit. You take that small profit and
- 7:53throw it back into the business. You're trying to achieve
- 7:56positive cash flow, and then from there you'll be growing
- 7:59your business small small. This week you sell one unit, you
- 8:02make 2 Nair profits. Next week you sell 2 units, You
- 8:05make 4 naira profits next month. Maybe by then you started
- 8:08selling 50 units and now you're making 50 * 2.
- 8:13It was 100 naira profit if my math is correct.
- 8:17And then that's how it goes on and on and on and on.
- 8:20So that's an opportunity that was also open to Abel.
- 8:24You know, you managed to bootstrap, get one small piece
- 8:28of land and maybe to buy like 5 heads of yam.
- 8:32You plant the yam, the yam grows, you harvested, maybe the
- 8:36yam grows 10 tubers, You sell the 10 tubers, You sell each
- 8:41tubers for 6 calorie shells or something.
- 8:43You use 4, four or three calories shells to eat the
- 8:47remaining 2 reinvested back into the business.
- 8:50They're doing positive cash flows.
- 8:51So that is sales and revenue. We're aiming for positive cash
- 8:56flows. So that's number two.
- 8:58Number one, bootstrapping, saving the money #2 sales.
- 9:02Sell something, take the profit, throw it back, grow that way.
- 9:06Then another way to grow to finance the business is equity.
- 9:13Equity just means you go and meet somebody, collect money
- 9:17from the person. The money that you collect for
- 9:20the person, the person now wants a share in your business.
- 9:24In other words, the person is investing in you and investing
- 9:27in the future of the business. So that you guys are now
- 9:30partners whether 5050 or 7030 more from now until the business
- 9:34dies, any money you make, you be sharing with that person.
- 9:38That is equity. Now let me switch to Kane.
- 9:41So let's say Kane on the other hand decides to go to his mumsy
- 9:45and says, ah Eve, I beg, I want to do animal husbandry but I
- 9:51need some help. And then Eve says sure, no
- 9:53problem, I'll give you the money.
- 9:55But this money that I'm giving you, we have to be partners 5050
- 9:58in this business. And then Kane says mommy now are
- 10:04you not my mommy? And you know that whole
- 10:06emotional blackmail and everything and then maybe you
- 10:08says OK, OK, no problem. I'll give you the I'll give you
- 10:11the carry shows. But then I will now own 20% of
- 10:14the business and it's OK, no problem.
- 10:16They shake hands, deal is done. That is equity.
- 10:22So Eve now owns 20% of the business that her son Kane has
- 10:27started for Animal Husbandry. And of course they have agreed
- 10:31on what the distributions are going to be and you know, stuff
- 10:34like that. So that is equity.
- 10:36You collected money from someone, they now own a share in
- 10:39your business. Then after equity is a loan.
- 10:45A loan is when you want to meet somebody, the person gives you
- 10:48the money, but then the person says this money or I'm giving
- 10:52you 6 calories shells, you're going to pay me back 8 calories
- 10:55shells. So 2 calories shells is
- 10:56interest. So in this case, OK, back to the
- 10:59beginning, we say Abel approached the Adam for for
- 11:03money. So in the first example that I
- 11:06gave, I just assumed that Adam will give the money to Abel as
- 11:09per you know, you're my son, you So just take now dash, I dash,
- 11:12I'm just dashing you. That one is a grant.
- 11:15That's also another opportunity to get somebody to dash your
- 11:17money. Well, let's pretend now that
- 11:19Adam didn't dash him and Adam said was a loan.
- 11:22So the loan will now be that, look, I'm giving you this money,
- 11:26but you know me, I'm near retirement age.
- 11:27So I need to be able to, I need to be able to live off of
- 11:32something. So this money that I'm giving
- 11:34you, I want it back in one year. You have to pay me back those
- 11:37interest. So I'm giving you the 6 calories
- 11:38shells to one start your business, but you have to pay me
- 11:41back next year. You have to pay me back 8
- 11:45calories shells so that at least I can support myself in old age
- 11:49because I know that you and your brother you will marry and
- 11:52people will move far away. So I need to take care of myself
- 11:55in my old age, me and my wife. So that is a loan.
- 11:58The person gives you money you have to pay back.
- 12:01You have to pay with interest but the person does not own a
- 12:03share in your business. So that is a loan.
- 12:09Now the bad news about a loan is that you have to pay the loan
- 12:12back any which way. If the business succeeds, you
- 12:15pay the loan back. If the business fails, you pay
- 12:17the loan back equity. Now forgive me because I've been
- 12:20in legal practice for a very long time, but in actual
- 12:22practice is beginning to look as if equity everything just messes
- 12:26up. Everybody would just ally put
- 12:29it, you know, to attend to Israel.
- 12:31OK, the thing didn't work, the thing didn't work.
- 12:33And then everybody goes goes a separate ways.
- 12:36But if it's a loan, you must pay that money.
- 12:39And if you've taken a loan from a Nigerian bank before or a
- 12:42Nigerian loan shark or whatever, you know for sure that if you
- 12:45take a loan, you must pay that money.
- 12:48In fact, loan shacks, they will do that, as in they will harass
- 12:52the life out of you. I've received those messages
- 12:54before to say that social social took a loan of social amount he
- 12:58has not paid, you know, basically trying to harass you
- 13:01by sending messages to everybody in your in your social network
- 13:06just to embarrass you to pay the money.
- 13:08So if it's a loan, you must pay the money.
- 13:10So this is how business has been financed from the beginning of
- 13:12the world up until now. Grant Yes, the first one I
- 13:18didn't add. Grant let's get somebody to dash
- 13:20your money and #2 bootstrapping, save your own money #3 go out
- 13:26and sell something, take the revenue and then throw it back
- 13:29trying to get positive cash flows.
- 13:30So that's sales #3 #4 equity. Collect money from somebody,
- 13:35give them a share in your business.
- 13:36The person is investing in you #5 go out and take a loan,
- 13:40collect money from someone. The person gives you the money,
- 13:42but the person says you must pay back with interest at so so so
- 13:46so time. So if you are like Wonder Woman,
- 13:51you want to actualize your business as she says you want to
- 13:54start increasing the large audit quantities of soups or rice or
- 13:57peppered meats or pasta or peppered goat of pounded yam of
- 14:03fisherman soup of you know everything.
- 14:06These are the options that are available to you.
- 14:08Go and look for a grant or bootstrap increase sales.
- 14:14Go and get equity or go and get a loan.
- 14:17Those are the options available to you.
- 14:20Unfortunately for you, sales skills are involved in doing
- 14:26every single thing here. If you want a grant, you need
- 14:31sales skills. If you want to bootstrap, OK,
- 14:34now you don't need sales skills. You know you're fine, but you
- 14:37need sales skills to grow the business.
- 14:38But let's just remove bootstrapping there.
- 14:41If you want to grow revenue, you need sales skills.
- 14:44If you want to attract equity, you need sales skills.
- 14:47If you want to get a loan, you need sales skills.
- 14:51Some of you are going to ask what is the correlation?
- 14:53No problem, we will get to that. Tomorrow we'll start seeing how
- 14:58sales skills can help you solve all these problems and hope you
- 15:00guys are beginning to see the connection that lack of finance
- 15:03now is not really the problem. Because OK, look, for the sake
- 15:10of argument, yes, let me admit, yes, there are some people that
- 15:13are so down on their luck or not sophisticated enough or not
- 15:16educated enough or have the wrong connections or whatever,
- 15:19or maybe the devil is against them.
- 15:22So they will not be able to attract a grant.
- 15:24They will not be able to get do not be able to bootstrap, they
- 15:27will not be able to increase revenue.
- 15:29They will not be able to secure equity.
- 15:30They will not be able to get a loan.
- 15:32So yes, for the sake of argument, yes, that is possible.
- 15:35But now let me just assume that we're talking about the average
- 15:39person now you know, average Nigeria.
- 15:42Now I'm not talking about those people who are sleeping under
- 15:45the bridge because those people are here.
- 15:47It's unfortunate, but they are amongst us, the those of us who
- 15:53those of the pond downtrodden. But let me just assume now that
- 15:56we're talking of typical average person because Wonder Woman,
- 15:59she's in school, so you can afford to pay school fees.
- 16:02She doesn't live in Markudy, so she comes from someplace else.
- 16:05Your parents can afford to pay out of state accommodation, pay
- 16:08for transport, you know, pay for, you know, stuff like that.
- 16:10And obviously she uses a nice Android phone.
- 16:13In fact, based on the screenshot she sent me, the phone that she
- 16:16uses is one of those Folds types, you know, the ones that
- 16:19open up real nice. So if you can afford the phone
- 16:21that is, you know, one point, something million.
- 16:24I really think you're not one of these people who cannot get a
- 16:28grant, cannot bootstrap, cannot grow revenue, cannot get equity
- 16:34or cannot get a loan. So in tomorrow's episode and
- 16:37beyond, we will now look into how sales skills can help you
- 16:41raise finance through these channels.
- 16:43And hopefully by the time we're done, all you'll be able to see
- 16:46that is not actually lack of finance that is causing
- 16:48businesses to businesses to die. So in a sense, yes, lack of
- 16:54finance is the problem, but the problem is because there is a
- 16:58dearth, there is a lack of a fundamental skill which is
- 17:02needed to secure that financing. So it's after we have done all
- 17:07this fundamental stuff that I'll now enter into the Part B of the
- 17:10story, which is why if you're a young woman in 2024 in Nigeria,
- 17:17so this advice doesn't apply to those of you in the UK and
- 17:20America and whatever, because, you know, cultural dynamics can
- 17:22be different. But you're a young woman in 2025
- 17:25in Nigeria, in Ghana, in Cameroon.
- 17:29Let me see what else? OK, Well, those people are
- 17:32Nigerian enough. South Africa, all I can speak
- 17:35about Gabon and Sudan and Algeria and all those other
- 17:39countries. I'm not sure what the cultural
- 17:41makeup is like. Liberia, yes.
- 17:44So Niger, Ghana, Liberia, South Africa, Yeah.
- 17:49After that, after we have looked at these fundamental issues,
- 17:51we're now going to why if you're a young woman starting a
- 17:53business in 2025 or whatever year you're starting this
- 17:56business, you're listening to this podcast in 3057, OK, maybe
- 18:00in 3057 things have changed. You know, I don't know.
- 18:03But the reason why you should not go into business with your
- 18:07boyfriend or if you're going to go into business with your
- 18:09boyfriend or you're maybe toaster, maybe not toaster,
- 18:13maybe he likes me, maybe he doesn't like me.
- 18:16We'll look at the circumstances under which you should go into
- 18:19business with this person or not.
- 18:23And even for those of us who are married, it's still going to be
- 18:25an OK episode to listen to because in order to decide
- 18:29whether you should go into business with someone under
- 18:32these circumstances enough or not, at the end of the day, it
- 18:35all boils down to what the business terms are, what the
- 18:38partnership terms are and how clear the partnership terms are.
- 18:42So only if you're not, you know, in any emotional entanglement
- 18:45and maybe you're trying to get a loan from Access Bank or
- 18:48something or be in partnership with, you know, your rich uncle
- 18:51or rich auntie, you know, there are going to be some business
- 18:56lessons there that still apply. So that's it for today.
- 19:00If you'd love to connect with me, the phone number to reach me
- 19:03on is 08064662140. The country code is +234.
- 19:10For those of you who are not Nigerian and it's my WhatsApp
- 19:13number, you can reach me there. Then connect with me on socials.
- 19:16I'm on YouTube and I am on LinkedIn.
- 19:19The name to look for is Tavi Shima Aidi.
- 19:22So thank you very much for your time and attention.
- 19:24And remember that this episode is just me speaking in code, so
- 19:29it's not an actual conversation. I'm just trying to stylishly
- 19:32pass across a message so that the Wonder Woman listens to the
- 19:34episode. She's going to learn a couple of
- 19:36things apart from the things that we've really been chatting
- 19:38about. So thank you very much for your
- 19:40time and attention. I'll catch you guys tomorrow.