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167. Unblocking Your Orgasm: Safety, Surrender & Self-Trust · She Rises with Ashy & Tijana

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  Speaker 1: Apoday Production. Welcome to the She Rises Podcast. I'm Ashy
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  Speaker 1: and I'm Tiana. This podcast is about female empowerment.
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  Speaker 2: And encouraging you to be your biggest, boldest, and most
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  Speaker 2: authentic version of yourself.
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  Speaker 1: We help you shed the shame, grow to new level.
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  Speaker 1: We're gonna laugh and cry and talk about the topics
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  Speaker 1: everyone else is too afraid to talk about.
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  Speaker 2: Get ready for your next level of self.
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  Speaker 1: Hello everybody, Welcome back to she Rises. Another big week.
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  Speaker 1: Everyone calls this time the silly season.
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  Speaker 3: I call it the busy season.
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  Speaker 2: It's so busy.
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  Speaker 3: It's so busy.
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  Speaker 1: But we're in December now, near the end of the year.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you guys enjoyed Twelve Days of Christmas and all
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  Speaker 1: the other episodes we've got coming up. I can't believe
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  Speaker 1: we're nearly done with twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: I know, I can't believe how much has happened in
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  Speaker 2: this year. It's gone so fast.
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  Speaker 1: Wild, But we've got a big year next year. We
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  Speaker 1: really do very exciting. Today's episode it's a little bit spicy,
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  Speaker 1: a little bit sexual. We were talking about orgasms, how
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  Speaker 1: amazing they are, how beneficial they are, and also what
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  Speaker 1: can hold you back from having an orgasm and speriencing
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  Speaker 1: that level of pleasure.
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  Speaker 3: But before we do, watch your Share of the Week.
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  Speaker 2: So My Share of the Week is actually a book. Now,
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  Speaker 2: I've had lots of conversations with clients of mine, friends,
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  Speaker 2: and this has been a game changer for me around communication. Yes,
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  Speaker 2: so the book is called Nonviolent Communication by Marshall b Rosenberg.
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  Speaker 2: Now this teaches you a really simple framework to help
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  Speaker 2: you have hard conversations and to be able to communicate
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  Speaker 2: in a way that kind of prevents conflict. So it's
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  Speaker 2: a real powerhouse. This transformed for me personally how I communicate.
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  Speaker 2: That's saying a lot considering I used to be a
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  Speaker 2: bit of an ice queen, like back in the day.
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  Speaker 2: I never used to know how to communicate. Yeah, so no,
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  Speaker 2: I would keep people at arm's length and I would
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  Speaker 2: be so terrified to voice what it was that I
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  Speaker 2: wanted that I would come off as really cold. So yeah,
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  Speaker 2: this really really helps me. So if you're stialing with
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  Speaker 2: issues with communication, you're scared you can't have hard conversations.
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  Speaker 2: This is really powerful.
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  Speaker 1: Love that mine is a beauty product. I've got it
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  Speaker 1: in my hot little hands. Er hunt if you're an
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  Speaker 1: oily girl and you find you get shiny.
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  Speaker 3: This has been an absolute game changer.
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  Speaker 1: But I think there is a way to apply it
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  Speaker 1: that I'm still practicing. But we recently had a new
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  Speaker 1: makeup butter As do our makeup and my makeup. The
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  Speaker 1: first one I got it done with her, my makeup
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  Speaker 1: did not shift. I didn't get shiny for a whole
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  Speaker 1: nine hours. Got to the end of the day after
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  Speaker 1: the wedding, I was like, oh my gosh, I'm not shiny.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't had to touch my makeup at all. So
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  Speaker 1: it's by Herd of Beauty and it's a loose powder.
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  Speaker 1: It's called easy Bake, and I'm in the color pound Cake.
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  Speaker 1: It's got a slight tint to it. But you don't
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  Speaker 1: just whack it on a brush and brush it on. Mean,
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  Speaker 1: you can do that, but the way the makeup I
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  Speaker 1: have did it, which she puts it on one of
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  Speaker 1: those little pads, puts the product on and then presses
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  Speaker 1: the product into the palm of her hand, which primes it.
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  Speaker 1: Then pushes it into my skin and it's flawless. It literally,
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  Speaker 1: if I was to show you a video, it kind
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  Speaker 1: of minimizes and makes your paws look airbrushed.
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  Speaker 3: It's wild.
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  Speaker 1: I lost my little pad thing so I could be
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  Speaker 1: using a brush light and it doesn't work the same.
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  Speaker 1: But I really love this powder oily girl. Try to get
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  Speaker 1: one of those little pads and press it into your
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  Speaker 1: hand first and then into your skin and all make
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  Speaker 1: your makeup last.
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  Speaker 3: So much longer.
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  Speaker 2: We love an airbrushed look.
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  Speaker 1: I do love hood to beauty. I've tried one of
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  Speaker 1: their lip glosses, one of their lipliners. It's really good quality.
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  Speaker 2: It's just a Sephora beautiful bit more pricey, but worth it,
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  Speaker 2: worth it, Yeah, good investment, Yes, beautiful.
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  Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about orgasms, the big, oh.
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  Speaker 3: The bigger.
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  Speaker 1: We all love them, we do, we absolutely do.
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  Speaker 2: But everyone talks about it like it's a big dirty
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  Speaker 2: secret anything sexual.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, it's crazy.
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  Speaker 1: But even our stats when we look at our downloads,
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  Speaker 1: the most downloaded episodes are always the ones that involve sex.
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  Speaker 1: They are everyone's talking about it, everyone's interested in it,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's doing it.
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  Speaker 3: Why is it so taboo?
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  Speaker 2: It is such a taperod topic. And I find it's
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  Speaker 2: so interesting that something that is so natural, yeah, something
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  Speaker 2: that everyone seems to be sel afraid.
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  Speaker 3: To talk about and so pleasurable and that creates life.
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  Speaker 1: Why is it looked at as dirty or wrong or
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  Speaker 1: something we shouldn't talk about.
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  Speaker 2: It's like shamed. Why immediately?
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, So today we're gonna uncover and just talk about
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  Speaker 1: what prevents us from reaching an orgasm. And this conversation
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  Speaker 1: sparked because we had, in fact, a couple of Besty
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  Speaker 1: Advice submissions come in and well, look, we get a lot,
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  Speaker 1: so we haven't got through them all, but we did
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  Speaker 1: notice a couple come through of women who are struggling
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  Speaker 1: to get there, and I think there's so many reasons
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  Speaker 1: why women do. So we're going to talk about personal
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  Speaker 1: things that prevented us from reaching the big O or
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  Speaker 1: just impacting how long it takes us to get there,
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  Speaker 1: and not that it's a rush to get there, but
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  Speaker 1: I'll start for me personally, it means he's so good
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  Speaker 1: in bed, but I love that.
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  Speaker 3: For you, it doesn't struggle.
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  Speaker 1: But I know there has been times where I've been
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  Speaker 1: in my head if I'm really stressed, or I haven't
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  Speaker 1: taken the time beforehand to have a shower and get
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  Speaker 1: in my feminine energy and hop in a nice nicety
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  Speaker 1: or put music on and just things that help my
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  Speaker 1: body soften and relax, or the kids have interrupted us
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  Speaker 1: three times already. I'm like, I can't get there because
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  Speaker 1: I'm just like stressed about when the next knock at
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  Speaker 1: the door is going to be, or if I'm super
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  Speaker 1: disregulated and just like not in the mood and having
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  Speaker 1: a hard time or want to. It just feels harder
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  Speaker 1: because I'm so in my head, I'm not in my body.
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  Speaker 1: When Steve and I go away, it's just like the
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  Speaker 1: best I feel like, I'm instantly like stress has gone away,
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  Speaker 1: and it just feels so much easier and more enjoyable
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  Speaker 1: and more pleasurable to get there multiple times because I'm
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  Speaker 1: not stressed and I'm out of my head, my parents'
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  Speaker 1: hats off, my work hat's off, and I'm just so
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  Speaker 1: present with him with my body.
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  Speaker 2: I was just thinking about the time of your message
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  Speaker 2: me and You're like, yeah, just guys, I'm like six
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  Speaker 2: fives and sorry. It was the only thing that came
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  Speaker 2: to my head then, So I was just like, I
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  Speaker 2: fucking love that for you. Yeah, there's nothing more like
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  Speaker 2: powerful than a woman who's lit up and like, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: sexually connected to herself it's like that life force energy.
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  Speaker 1: People wonder why we go on stay case each month,
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  Speaker 1: I'll tell you why. Or is at home guarantee we
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  Speaker 1: get to knock at the door every single time, even
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  Speaker 1: if think it's gone to bed, to be like, what
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  Speaker 1: time you guys go to bed? I'm thirsty, I'm hungry.
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  Speaker 1: What are you guys doing?
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  Speaker 3: I want to talk?
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  Speaker 2: What hang? It's like, oh my god, like five minutes please.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, it is hard.
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  Speaker 1: If you are super disregulated, you're stressed, you're in your head,
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  Speaker 1: you were going to find it a lot harder to
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  Speaker 1: reach an orgasm. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely, It's so interesting. I mean I've spoken about obviously
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  Speaker 2: the video of a few times on here, but like
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  Speaker 2: speak to it in a different way. When that video happened.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know if I've mentioned this before, but I
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  Speaker 2: really struggled to self pleasure after that experience happened. So
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  Speaker 2: for anyone who's listening for the first time, who doesn't know,
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  Speaker 2: I have an episode way back when at the beginning
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  Speaker 2: of the year about a sex tape that was released
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  Speaker 2: by a next partner of mine that wasn't like I
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  Speaker 2: had no consent to. So this happened without my consent.
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  Speaker 2: And went around my hometown and completely changed my life
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  Speaker 2: and the trajectory of my life. So if you haven't listened,
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  Speaker 2: go back and listen. But otherwise, after that experience, I
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  Speaker 2: really felt disconnected from my pleasure and my body. And
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  Speaker 2: I think it was a way of coping at the
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  Speaker 2: time because at the time I had this story of like,
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  Speaker 2: oh my gosh, you're so dirty for wanting sex and
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  Speaker 2: engaging in it. And I felt like, you know, literally
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  Speaker 2: like a quote unquote dirty girl because I got slut
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  Speaker 2: shamed for it, you know, and women and men both
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  Speaker 2: everyone was like, you're a slut, You're so dirty, so gross,
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  Speaker 2: like fucking ill, like as if you do that, like
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  Speaker 2: what a skank, and like all of the like slut
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  Speaker 2: shaming things that kind of came with that. And so
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  Speaker 2: after that, I was like, Nope, I'm just going to
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  Speaker 2: shut myself off to that part of myself. I stopped
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  Speaker 2: self pleasuring if I were in a relationship, when at
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  Speaker 2: the time I actually was in a relationship. When I
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  Speaker 2: found out, and I remember our intimacy and like having sex,
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  Speaker 2: I was like more in my head than I was anything.
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  Speaker 2: So it was always like a performative based thing for me.
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  Speaker 2: Where I was just doing the thing to do the thing,
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  Speaker 2: as opposed to one genuinely feel good pleasure, to please
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  Speaker 2: your partner, to please my partner, put on a show
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  Speaker 2: to make sure it was all about him, because I
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  Speaker 2: was so disconnected from myself that I was like, Oh,
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  Speaker 2: don't worry about me. There doesn't matter, It doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like they were even times, babe, where
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  Speaker 2: I would finish having sex and then I would like,
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  Speaker 2: go get myself off in the bathroom. I would go
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  Speaker 2: play with myself in the bathroom because I would feel
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  Speaker 2: guilty for asking and wanting that, because I didn't want
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  Speaker 2: one more person to see me wanting sex or a
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  Speaker 2: pleasure or so much things. Yeah, and that was a
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  Speaker 2: really challenging thing to go through with someone so young.
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  Speaker 2: Because I had this conflict about me. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: I love this, I want to explore this, I want
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  Speaker 2: to push my limits in this. And because I had
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  Speaker 2: carried all this shame, I was like, but you're not
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  Speaker 2: allowed to. You shouldn't want that. You're such a dirty girl.
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  Speaker 2: So it was this internal battle that was kind of
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  Speaker 2: going back and forth in my head at all times
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  Speaker 2: when it came to that. So even in the moments
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  Speaker 2: when I'd be with a partner and i'd explore something
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  Speaker 2: new for the first time, I'd open up and I'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, yeah, okay, cool, blah blah blah, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 2: don't want to do that, and I would completely like
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  Speaker 2: shut myself down in the time and something that has
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  Speaker 2: taken me years, I think up until reading the book
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  Speaker 2: Pussy the Reclamation. I highly recommend this book if you're
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  Speaker 2: going through this journey yourself. I started reading that book
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  Speaker 2: probably in twenty twenty two, and that was when I
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  Speaker 2: first started to kind of reclaim my sexual energy. And
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  Speaker 2: around that time, I started to push the limit and
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  Speaker 2: I started to create like a self pleasure practice because
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  Speaker 2: I was so disconnected from myself, couldn't even look at myself,
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  Speaker 2: didn't want to play myself unless I had a partner,
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  Speaker 2: like none of that stuff. And then yeah, I started
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  Speaker 2: to reclaim it, started to create a practice. Wanted to
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  Speaker 2: explore myself more, explore my own limits with pleasure. But
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  Speaker 2: what I would find started to happen was that I
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  Speaker 2: would set like a nice mood lighting like candles flod
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  Speaker 2: lingerie on for myself, like lead myself into a listener, music, whatever,
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  Speaker 2: and then as I was like reaching orgasm, I would
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  Speaker 2: stop myself. And so it was like I didn't feel
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  Speaker 2: safe orgasming because of all the shame that I was carrying. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And so it was almost like a mental block in
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  Speaker 2: some way that every time I would get right before
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  Speaker 2: the peak of orgasm boom, I would stop and then
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  Speaker 2: I'd be like, Okay, cool, that's enough. And then I'd
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  Speaker 2: be like, oh yeah, and.
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  Speaker 3: I stuff to always have the reward. No, you don't
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  Speaker 3: deserve it because you're that's right.
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  Speaker 2: That's exactly right. That was happening in my head. And
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  Speaker 2: so for years on end, even when I would be
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  Speaker 2: with a partner and he were like, say, playing with
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  Speaker 2: me or like getting me to an orgasm, I would
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  Speaker 2: stop him, yeah, because I'd be like, oh no, no, it's
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  Speaker 2: too much, too much. But it wasn't because it was
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  Speaker 2: too intense. It was because I didn't feel safe orgasming. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: And so I had to rebuild that relationship with myself
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  Speaker 2: and my body. And the way that I found that
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  Speaker 2: I've done that is in the moments when I find
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  Speaker 2: myself wanting to stop or wanting to pull my head
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  Speaker 2: out and you're also allowed to experience pleasure, like it
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  Speaker 2: is safe to experience this right now. And so it
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  Speaker 2: was a lot of self talk through the moments of
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  Speaker 2: leading myself to that point so that I could finally
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  Speaker 2: feel safe to actually orgasm. This is so interesting. I've
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  Speaker 2: never spoken about this like it's cool publicly because.
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  Speaker 1: I reckon there be so many women that have never
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  Speaker 1: had an orgasm. Or we had someone writing remember and
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  Speaker 1: they had never self pleasure until the age of like
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  Speaker 1: forty three, and we were like, what do you mean this?
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  Speaker 1: There's so much sexual shame. So is there anything else
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  Speaker 1: that helped you along the way? Like, I know you
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  Speaker 1: just said there's a lot of self talk. Was there
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  Speaker 1: anything else that helps your body relax and get in
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  Speaker 1: the mood and actually lay yourself to get there and
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  Speaker 1: fully enjoy it with zero shame?
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  Speaker 3: Was there any of the tools you use?
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  Speaker 2: I think the nervous system is a huge one for this,
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  Speaker 2: only because the way that you go into self pleasure
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  Speaker 2: or even intimacy with a partner is going to set
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  Speaker 2: the tone for the rest of the time. So if
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  Speaker 2: you come in and you're overstimulated and you're overwhelmed, like
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  Speaker 2: you're only going to stay stuck in your head, You're
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  Speaker 2: not really going to enjoy yourself fully. So for me,
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  Speaker 2: it was about setting the intention the tone beforehand. So
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  Speaker 2: like what I mentioned, I would either put on a
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  Speaker 2: playlist and I would sit in my room and I
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  Speaker 2: would like move my body. Yeah, put on lingerie for myself,
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  Speaker 2: even do like a bit of mirror work where I
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  Speaker 2: would like stare at myself naked or like literally, this
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  Speaker 2: is gonna seem so visual. It's going to create a
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  Speaker 2: visual image in your head. But looking into the mirror
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  Speaker 2: or like sitting in front of the mirror with your
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  Speaker 2: legs apart. Yeah, and like actually looking at yourself naked.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, a lot of them can find that confronting.
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  Speaker 2: It can be quite confronting, but it's a really beautiful
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  Speaker 2: practice like way to really build self love. And so
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  Speaker 2: through doing things like that and also taking time with
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  Speaker 2: my body, I found I would use coconut oil.
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  Speaker 3: I was thinking at.
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  Speaker 2: The time of the Airbnb Oh yes, aha, Okay, side note,
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  Speaker 2: I went to an AIRBMB stayk by myself and I
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  Speaker 2: like love coconut oil, right, And I just like when
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  Speaker 2: I go to like self pleasure, like sometimes I'll like
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  Speaker 2: rub coroconut oil all over my body, and I had
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  Speaker 2: to buy new sheets for the plon got stuck on
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  Speaker 2: the show because the oil stained the sheets at the Airbnb,
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  Speaker 2: and they were like, I don't know what's happened here,
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  Speaker 2: but the sheets are really bad.
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  Speaker 3: You're like, I just use it as a moistress.
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  Speaker 2: I did say that, and I technically do, but there
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  Speaker 2: are other intentions for it anyway.
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  Speaker 3: So funny.
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  Speaker 2: So, I'm a very physical touch kind of person, and
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  Speaker 2: I never used to get physical touch unless a partner
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  Speaker 2: was touching me or holding me or whatever. And so
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  Speaker 2: I learned how to just you know, run my fingers
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  Speaker 2: across like my shoulder, or down and up my arm,
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  Speaker 2: or like I'd put my legs up and I'd like
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  Speaker 2: tickle like the underside of my legs. And then I
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  Speaker 2: would slowly start to like breathe as I would do that,
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  Speaker 2: and I found that my nervous system would calm down,
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  Speaker 2: I would regulate, I would start to get more into
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  Speaker 2: my feeling space as opposed to being in my head
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  Speaker 2: and really thinking about what I was doing. Yeah, I
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  Speaker 2: was actually feeling, and so touching my body like that
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  Speaker 2: in a really gentle way allowed me to anchor into
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  Speaker 2: the feeling tickles on my leg. Oh, like the way
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  Speaker 2: that feels on my neck and allows you to really
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  Speaker 2: anchor in. That was really powerful for me. And then
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  Speaker 2: every time I felt like I was limiting myself or
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  Speaker 2: feeling like I'm getting to that point of an orgasm
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  Speaker 2: and I try to stop myself, it would just be like,
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  Speaker 2: how can I surrender one percent more? Yeah, just surrender
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  Speaker 2: one percent more. You don't even need to orgasm. You
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  Speaker 2: don't need to get to that point. We're not trying
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  Speaker 2: to get to an outcome. This is purely for pleasure.
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  Speaker 3: Based during the experience into a experience.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what it became about, because five years, ten
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  Speaker 2: years ago, it was about how quickly can I get
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  Speaker 2: to an orgasm? How hard and fast can I get that?
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  Speaker 2: But it's not about that, So like the lead up
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  Speaker 2: is more important because that's going to get you to
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  Speaker 2: an orgasm.
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  Speaker 1: And the longer the lead up, I believed, the better
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  Speaker 1: your orgasm. Oh my god, i'n't want us the other
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  Speaker 1: the day. How I just I don't like vibrators anymore.
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  Speaker 1: I'm like years ago I used to. Now I'm like,
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: it's just over so quick. It's not I don't know
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: just feel so disconnecting. I really rather take the time
• 14:09
  Speaker 1: with Steve or with myself, and that lead up is
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: so enjoyable. You can make it so enjoyable.
• 14:14
  Speaker 2: We had this conversation and I remember saying to you, babe,
• 14:16
  Speaker 2: by banning myself from a vibrator, yeah, it desensitizes me. Yeah,
• 14:20
  Speaker 2: and then I find if I use my vibrator when
• 14:22
  Speaker 2: I'm single, and then I get into a relationship, it
• 14:25
  Speaker 2: takes double the amount of work to get me there,
• 14:27
  Speaker 2: and then I start getting frustrated. Yeah, because I've set
• 14:29
  Speaker 2: this expectation in my head that it should be quick,
• 14:32
  Speaker 2: but like women's bodies aren't quick. Takes twenty to forty
• 14:35
  Speaker 2: five minutes. Yes, you'd actually orgasm, is that right?
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: Would just really be fully soft and open. We're ready
• 14:41
  Speaker 1: to enjoy it.
• 14:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. We had a really cool episode with a
• 14:44
  Speaker 2: sexologist Lily at the beginning of the year. She go
• 14:46
  Speaker 2: listen to that. It's very powerful.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: I remember when Steve and I did a relationship course
• 14:50
  Speaker 1: with Tony Robbins years ago and they had a sex
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: ologist on stage and he said, like, yeah, same thing.
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: Twenty to forty minutes. You should be just purely touching
• 14:59
  Speaker 1: your woman that's massaging, taking her hair out, kissing her,
• 15:02
  Speaker 1: tickling her back, massaging her before you even touch her vagina. Yes,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: and like he's like, guarantee you do that. You have
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: a fully soft, open, wet, ready excited, horny wife. Very true,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: and your sexual experience will change forever.
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: The anticipation and the lead up. I find it is
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: such a powerful thing.
• 15:20
  Speaker 3: Definitely.
• 15:21
  Speaker 2: So if you find that you're struggling to orgasm, you
• 15:23
  Speaker 2: feel scared, nervous, or even going fast, like it's more
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: rough sex. If that feels like overwhelming for your nervous system,
• 15:31
  Speaker 2: slow it down, Like if you have a partner, ask
• 15:34
  Speaker 2: your partner to try all this with you and to
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: explore something new where you're taking as much time as
• 15:40
  Speaker 2: you need to witness how your body gets worked up. Yea,
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: because when you start to see that, you'd be like,
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: oh wow, I actually need more of that. And then
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: also if you're single, I'm sure you could ask if
• 15:49
  Speaker 2: you're sexually involved with anybody, you'd be able to do
• 15:52
  Speaker 2: this process too, or just by yourself.
• 15:54
  Speaker 1: Edging edging, Oh, edging so hot.
• 15:57
  Speaker 2: Edging is very good.
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: You haven't heard of it.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: It's just like getting yourself to the near point of
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: orgasm and then pulling it back. And you can do
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: this in just in sex and still reach orgasm, or
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: Steve and I sometimes do it. We're like last time
• 16:10
  Speaker 1: we went to Sydney, we edged like the whole day
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: but wouldn't allow ourselves to actually have sex. Oh, so
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: by time we had sex, it was just so much
• 16:17
  Speaker 1: more intense, really, and the whole day was just so
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: exciting and like we're just so sensitive and excited and
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: just in this really sexual, fun, playful energy. But at
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: home once again, it's harder with kids when you've got
• 16:28
  Speaker 1: that time and space like all day for it to
• 16:30
  Speaker 1: be rolled around that.
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so fun. It's so fun too because when
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: you're in a headspace, you're really sensitive. Body is sensitive,
• 16:37
  Speaker 2: so it's like even one little touch shivers. Try it. Yeah,
• 16:42
  Speaker 2: if you need to google it, you can google it.
• 16:45
  Speaker 1: But it's a really important conversation that we wanted to
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: bring in because you know, we have experienced that. We
• 16:49
  Speaker 1: were struggled to get there and if you're struggling. Another
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: thing too, is like the self pleasure thing. I think
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: is a really important aspect because if you don't know
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: what feels good for your body. And that's just like
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: physically touching and your vagina or any area of your body.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: If you don't know what feels good for you, how
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: does your partner? And I went to an event last year.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: There's maybe thirty women there and she had someone coming
• 17:10
  Speaker 1: to talk about sex and self pleasure, and she asked
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: her as a self pleasure practice, I was the only
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: person put my hand up. Some of the women like, never,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've never done that.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: What does that look like?
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: I do that? Yeah.
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: It was like they were all so embarrassed even talk
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: about it. And I was like, Oh, I do this,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: get the marry out and do this. And I was
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: just so free to talk about it because I've just
• 17:29
  Speaker 1: done that for years now. But doing that with myself
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: really improved my intimacy with Steve because I just knew
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: my body so well and I knew how to get
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: myself soft and ready and excited, and that just helps
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: your relationship as well. But yeah, I think taking the
• 17:43
  Speaker 1: pressure off reaching an orgasm too. I think a lot
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: of people just think, oh, to have sex, got to
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: reach there. I think if you get rid of that
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: first and just actually just enjoy the experience, with your
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: partner and connecting with them and taking it slow, you'll
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: find you get there a lot easier.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: Absolutely.
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: With the opposite problem, you have to like hold back, No,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: it's done, it over too quickly. Yeah, I was like,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: no it stop, I'm not ready and I want to
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: get I want to enjoy this longer.
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: Yes, totally. And when you are self pleasuring and you're
• 18:08
  Speaker 2: starting this practice, there's going to be like a little
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: introm period where you feel a little weird about it.
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: That's so true, you know, like, let's just normalize it.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: Feeling awkward, weird, You're feeling a bit like, ah, should
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I be doing this? Or you might even have the
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: stories of like who has the time for this? This
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: is silly, this feels stupid. I should be doing my
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: to do list right now because let's face it, we
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: all end up.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: Or just wait my partner gets home.
• 18:30
  Speaker 2: Yes, why would I when my partner can do it
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: for me. But your relationship with yourself is based on
• 18:35
  Speaker 2: your relationship with yourself, and all of those limitations are
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: just resistance and likely based on fear of you actually
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: connecting with your body because it doesn't feel safe yet. Yeah,
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: and think about what that might look like in a
• 18:48
  Speaker 2: couple months time when you actually get to a point
• 18:51
  Speaker 2: where you start to soften with yourself, and this can
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: happen really quickly. When you prioritize this the way that
• 18:57
  Speaker 2: you learn to soften, you start to understand why it's
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: important to slow down. You also start to enjoy and
• 19:04
  Speaker 2: create pleasure yourself instead of always waiting for somebody else
• 19:07
  Speaker 2: to do it. Because I really was that woman who
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: was like, I'm not playing or self pleasuring and unless
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: my partner's doing it, I didn't experience physical touch outside
• 19:16
  Speaker 2: of having a partner. Yeah, not even with myself. I'm like,
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: how can it be good with him if I don't
• 19:21
  Speaker 2: even have it good with myself? And I don't understand
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: what it feels like to be able to create that
• 19:25
  Speaker 2: for myself, which is such a powerful way to really
• 19:27
  Speaker 2: tap into your feminine energy and that really beautiful like
• 19:31
  Speaker 2: life force energy that you have. Because when you can
• 19:33
  Speaker 2: create that of your own, you can then bring that
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: into the bedroom exactly. So you bring that like spicy
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: minx kind of energy to your partner. He's like, who
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: is this woman? Is this my partner?
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: I love that there's this guy on social media that
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: Jake Guy. Oh, Jake Woodard is that his name?
• 19:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Jake Woodard.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: Okay.
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: So I mean, if you're a bit prutish, or you're
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: closed minded, or your judgy, this is not the page
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to follow. But I really enjoy his content. Look, I
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: don't agree with every single thing that he says, sometimes
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: like hmm, that could have been worded differently, or he's
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: very black and white. But some things he says, I'm like, Wow,
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: he's willing to say the things that everyone else is
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: too scared to say, and he doesn't care what anyone thinks.
• 20:12
  Speaker 1: But a word that he's used lately is slutty, to
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: be slutty for your husband. And I found this so interesting.
• 20:18
  Speaker 1: I think a couple of years ago, if I was
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: to read this, I would have been really triggered. I
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: would have been like, oh my gosh, I can't believe
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: he's telling women to be slutty for their husband.
• 20:25
  Speaker 3: That's disgusting because I had a.
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: Story that slutty was bad and slutty was dirty, and
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: slutty was like just giving yourself away to everyone. But
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: he was saying that the more like sluttier woman it is,
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: the more in touch she is with herself and she's
• 20:37
  Speaker 1: just freely expressing herself sexually with her partner. And when
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: women initiate is what he says. Women initiate sex with
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: their partner, they activate this like primal masculine, like oh,
• 20:48
  Speaker 1: like strength within their man that then activates them to
• 20:50
  Speaker 1: want to take care of you. So all these women
• 20:52
  Speaker 1: are in his DM saying, oh, I need my man
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: to step up. My men's lazy and da da da,
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And that was his questions, like, are you being slutty
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: with your husband? Are you activating him? Are you giving
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: him a reason to want to come home to you?
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Because when you are slutty with your man, it activates
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: them in them, and naturally they want to take care
• 21:08
  Speaker 1: of you. Yes, I think that makes so much sense.
• 21:10
  Speaker 3: It makes so much hate for this. Oh no, it
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: makes sense.
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: Bring it in reflecting now, since I am more quote
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: unquote slutty and sexually embodied and just freer in the
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: bedroom with Steep, it has brought us so much closer,
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: so much more sexual intimacy, so much more connected, so
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: much more fun. I feel alive, He feels more alive.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: It is so true, But I just have never heard
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: anyone explain it like that and give women full permission
• 21:37
  Speaker 1: to bring out that inner slight energy and let it
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: be free and wild because we are we are true feminine,
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: We are so wild. We're not contained in a box
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: to be a good girl. That is not natural for
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: a woman that's fully in touch with herself.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: Yes.
• 21:51
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And it's so interesting too, because when a woman
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: is limited, even in the act of sex or the
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: act of intimacy, if she is in her head, she's
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: not fully there. She's performing, and feminine is present. Feminine
• 22:02
  Speaker 2: is present, Feminine is feeling. So if you're not and
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: you're getting lost in it that you don't even know
• 22:07
  Speaker 2: what sounds you're making or like how your body is. Yeah,
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: because you're so in the moment you're living in your head,
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: you're not getting to the full extent of pleasure, to
• 22:14
  Speaker 2: what you can feel and experience. I love that he
• 22:17
  Speaker 2: talks about it in that way, the slootiness, because this
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: is something I've been so open with you about with
• 22:22
  Speaker 2: my last relationship. I love putting on a show, yeah,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: and I love activating that like call it my seductress, yeah,
• 22:29
  Speaker 2: because I love being in that seductress energy. When it's
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: in a relationship, it's so much fun, and the men
• 22:34
  Speaker 2: love it, like coming home literally being naked on the floor.
• 22:37
  Speaker 2: You know, yeah, you know, it's just it's fun to
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: create that energy. And sometimes it feels edgy and it
• 22:44
  Speaker 2: feels scary, but it's also a really beautiful part of life.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: And when you and your partner both able to create
• 22:50
  Speaker 2: a space or even just yourself first and foremost, to
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: create a space where you don't have to judge yourself
• 22:56
  Speaker 2: for that, you're gonna have so much more fun.
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: And he was saying, too, I don't want to say
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: this wrong, so I feel like I'm gonna get so
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: much backlash. He's saying, too, that's like a reason why
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: a lot of men are so drawn to porn because
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: even though it's like not real quote unquote, it's these
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: women that are so wild and alive and loud and
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: like in their bodies and it's like a fantasy world
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: that if they don't get that at home, you can
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: see how they're drawn to that excitement. Whereas if a
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: man's partner is doing that, if a woman is doing
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: that in her relationship, there's not as much reason to
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: look elsewhere because naturally men are drawn to that, they're
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: visual they're visual creatures. I love reading his Q and
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: a's because like a couple of women saying, oh, my
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: man is naturally more shy. I'm the one that initiates.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: He's more Vanila in the bedroom, and he's like, there's
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: a little boy that's been shamed around sex. He claws
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: on that I'm shy, but he just hasn't been activated yet.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: And you can bring that by being your free self
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: and creating safety in his body and in that environment,
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: you watch him step up and you watch the man
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: come alive because a little boy is still there. That's like, oh,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and I've got to be like this.
• 24:00
  Speaker 2: Oh I like that.
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: But we have the power to activate that in our
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: men and bring them forward. The feminine expands the masculine.
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: We make everything bigger in such a beautiful way. But
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: we have to be our true selves. We have to
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: be so connected to our body, so regulated, calm, wild, free,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: and bring all of that. And I just love it.
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: So if you looking for a new person to follow,
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: you definitely might feel activated or triggered by some of
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the stuff he says. And also know that if you do,
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: there's something there for you. Because when I read that
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: word slutty. I could feel part of my body that
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, okay, that's my old self reacting. Yeah,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: I would have really reacted to that few years ago.
• 24:37
  Speaker 3: I just sat with it.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, kept reading what he was meaning. I'm like,
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: I can see that, and I'm definitely slutty in the
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: bedroom for study.
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: But I never would have worded it like that.
• 24:45
  Speaker 2: Yes, and now it's like reclaiming the words so it's
• 24:48
  Speaker 2: not a negative thing into something exactly and playful and fun.
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: Yes, slutty could also mean just wild or free, and
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: you're right that state when you're making love or having
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: sex of being like almost an ecstasy where you can't
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: remember almost how you were. That means you're fully in
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: your body, You're fully in the experience, and that is
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the best feeling in the world. It's incredible that you
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: can do that with the person that you love. So amazing,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: so fun, so fun. So we hope this episode is
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: just helped you to do It's a little bit of
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: a reflection of where you're out if you are struggling
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: to get there and you're not really enjoying the experience
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: in your head. Like we have so many submissions that
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: come through, and so many mums listening, and I get it.
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: It's fucking hard with kids and you're tired and maybe
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: going through postpartum depression, or you don't feel confident in
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: your own body, or you're both busy working in stress.
• 25:32
  Speaker 3: I get it.
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: But there's definitely little things that you can do each
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: day that helps you get back into your body, get
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: back in that green zone with your nervous system, and
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: just implement little things that can help you start to
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: enjoy the experience again.
• 25:44
  Speaker 2: Absolutely, And if you want to bring out in a slutch, absolutely,
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: and I love her. And also if you want to
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: stop being so triggered all the time, just self pleasable.
• 25:55
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: I like that you brought up the awkward stage though,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: because I remember when I first started too of that.
• 26:01
  Speaker 1: And this is not even just self pleasure, but I
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: remember when I wanted to start mirror work for when
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: I was sad or depressed or grieving, actually staring at
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: myself in the mirror and watching myself cry because being
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: seen in that mess, being seen in that grief, I'm like,
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: if I'm going to hold especially when all this happened
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: with Megsie and Rambo like, if I'm going to be
• 26:20
  Speaker 1: able to hold her, I need to be able to
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: hold myself. And I was struggling to feel my own grief.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: So I like sat in front of the mirror for
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: months on end and just cry and fully like hug
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: myself and hold myself through that because I needed to
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: be able to do that to be able to hold her.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: So it can be done for like painful times and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: then also pleasurable times. If you look in the mirror
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: and your legs are apart and you're disgusted, or you
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like picking apart your body, sit there longer, stay, you
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: fucking stay. Do you abandon her? Yeap, Do not walk
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: away from her. You sit there and you find the beauty.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: And it's that transition of like body hate to body
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: acceptance to body love. You're not going to open your
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: legs and look at yourself and go, oh.
• 26:57
  Speaker 2: My god, I love her.
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: She's amazing, gorgeous, pussy, you look amazing.
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: You will find challenging to jump from.
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: Very but just sit there, stay with it. Every single week,
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: just carve out a little bit of times just sit
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: there and be with her, be with you, Yeah, because
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: that's the journey.
• 27:12
  Speaker 2: And if you're on this journey where you're like kind
• 27:14
  Speaker 2: of past this point and you're exploring self pleasure. I
• 27:18
  Speaker 2: would challenge you and encourage you to start using the
• 27:22
  Speaker 2: mirror as a way to like increase your pleasure. So
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: when you're by yourself, like watching yourself.
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: It's hard self pleasure.
• 27:28
  Speaker 2: It's so hot. Yeah, for me, it's like a big thing.
• 27:31
  Speaker 2: For me. I love looking in the mirror, like whether
• 27:32
  Speaker 2: I'm with a partner or by myself so hot. I
• 27:34
  Speaker 2: don't know why, just I'm maybe because I'm a visual person.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: So I'm just like I'm so into that. Yeah, you know,
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: and it'd be like just me, I love it, Like get.
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: A girl, you've got nice big mirrors on your watch.
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: It's like Eve and I.
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: Move it all right, He's like they're over here.
• 27:51
  Speaker 2: Honestly though, I feel like for me, at least, the
• 27:53
  Speaker 2: visual side of things helps me get out of my head.
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: And I can be someone who's prone to be in
• 27:57
  Speaker 2: my head a lot. I'm a big thinker, always over
• 28:00
  Speaker 2: analyzing the Gemini and me has always got Devil's Advocate
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  Speaker 2: going in my head. So for me, the visual aspect,
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  Speaker 2: the physical aspect, the audible, like hearing, aspect of music.
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  Speaker 2: All of those things compound to me being able to
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  Speaker 2: fully let go in that moment. And again it's a practice.
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  Speaker 2: What you're learning to do in practicing by doing this
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  Speaker 2: is by letting go one percent more, so that the
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  Speaker 2: next time that you self pleasure, the next time that
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  Speaker 2: you experience intimacy with a partner, you're just letting go
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  Speaker 2: one percent more. Yeah, that's it. You don't have to
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  Speaker 2: put pressure on yourself. You're not getting to an outcome.
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  Speaker 2: You don't need to let go quote unquote all the way. No,
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  Speaker 2: it's letting go one percent more. That's it. Have fun
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  Speaker 2: with it. You get to have fun with it. It doesn't
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  Speaker 2: have to be this big, heart heavy thing anymore.
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  Speaker 1: No way, If this is something that you want to
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  Speaker 1: learn more about, we have sold out of our Bar
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  Speaker 1: and Bay Retreat for the overnight passes, the sleepover passes,
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  Speaker 1: but we do have seven day passes available and we
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  Speaker 1: have beautiful Megsic companies to talk about this, we do.
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  Speaker 1: She's doing a full workshop, Yeah, all about self pleasure,
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  Speaker 1: connecting back to your body. How pleasure is such an
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  Speaker 1: important thing for all areas of your life. So she
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  Speaker 1: is coming down to talk about that. She's the expert
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  Speaker 1: in this. She has been my inspiration for this for
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  Speaker 1: many and many years. She's so embodied, even through all
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  Speaker 1: of her grief, through all of her hard times throughout
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  Speaker 1: her life, she will always come back to pleasure and
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  Speaker 1: it's so beautiful. Yeah, and she's so connected with her partner,
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  Speaker 1: and I can imagine they have the most incredible sex live.
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  Speaker 1: They're super connected and just so in love. And it's
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  Speaker 1: because she's so embodied in it. There's no one else
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  Speaker 1: that I would pick to choose this more than what.
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  Speaker 3: I would choose to be so excited for that.
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  Speaker 1: So if you're interested, you could come along to our
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  Speaker 1: retreat for the day pass. We'll lead the link in
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  Speaker 1: the show notes. Otherwise, just send us a message on
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: Instagram and can send you all the information. But she
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  Speaker 1: is one of our incredible guest speakers that you guys
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  Speaker 1: get the pleasure of being involved with learning from. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 3: We'll see that. Thanks guys, Bye bye