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EDP15: Grand Slam Philly / Launceston half / Leonora Golden gift · Easy Double podcast

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  Hello and welcome back to the Easy Double Podcast.
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  We're up to episode 15. Enjoyed as joined as per usual
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  by Dean Menzies on a late Sunday evening in Perth.
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  How you doing, Dean? Good mate, long weekend here.
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  So yeah, pretty, pretty good for a Sunday night.
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  Yes, we're making it work with the bank holiday in the in
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  Perth, but we're also kind of under a bit of time pressure to
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  get done for the F1, aren't we? So let's see how we get on
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  because your man Oscar Piastri is on pole as well, so.
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  Yeah, I must admit I pay a bit closer attention when when
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  there's an an Aussie in the field.
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  Little like someone doing well, I think there's heap of Brits
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  not far behind him. What's their 33 Brits in the top
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  6? Maybe I've got that right.
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  Yeah, so Lando straight up his backside, and then Russell was
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  fourth maybe. And Hamilton's there
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  thereabouts, isn't he? Yeah, he he did pretty well.
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  And then not too far away from me and still in Europe, in
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  Ireland, is Owen Smith. How are you, Sir?
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  I'm. Great boys enjoying a bit of
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  Irish sunshine for the next hour or two.
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  I can see some Gray, Gray crowds, great clouds looming, so
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  I'll just have to keep an eye on the washing that's out trying to
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  dry. I might have to make it dart out
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  if it starts raining. Bro no, I'm good.
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  Good. Nice nice Sunday afternoon over
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  in Ireland and public holiday there also coincidentally.
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  Yeah, yeah, it's nice. So I'm off work to tomorrow.
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  So yeah, just put the feet up. Try.
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  My both the occasions. I haven't actually.
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  Yeah. WA day, Yeah.
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  It's just during bank holiday here.
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  Yeah, and well, I mean, guess you could technically say it's
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  public holiday for me as well, seeing as I'm unemployed right
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  now or out of contract. What part?
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  Of the world are you in Green Man what part of the.
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  World are you in? Right.
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  I'm in France, about 20 kilometers outside of Marseille,
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  down on the southern coast in the coat the blue.
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  Oh, gorgeous. Well, there's someone in a
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  little a little French town called Sauce La Pont.
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  You sound sound like you're slotted in well.
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  Yeah, I'm just just picking up on all the local culture and not
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  much of the local run in as as we'll then find out.
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  Did you, did you get out last night for the Champions League
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  finals? No, we, we didn't arrive till
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  quite late, which I haven't got much running to talk about in my
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  weekly recap. So I'm going to talk about other
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  stuff and maybe that I'll explain that so we'll get to it.
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  But I'm sure the locals in in Marseille here wouldn't have
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  been too happy that PSG won because what's it called?
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  PSG and Marseille? It's like a big not Derby, but
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  it's shit. What's like El Classico is
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  Barcelona, Madrid and PSG. Marseille is something as well.
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  It's another big rivalry sort of thing.
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  Yeah, they're like the traditional 2 arch rivals and
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  Marseille haven't been great for a while, but still again a bit
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  like Liverpool United where you know, too great.
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  It's still a big rivalry. We won't talk about United,
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  though. So running news then we best get
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  into it because we've got quite a bit to cover off.
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  We missed a couple of things last week because of the time at
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  which we're recording. So there was Rabat Diamond
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  League, which we won't go through the entirety of the
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  results, but there are a couple of interesting things that I've
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  picked up there. So in the women's 800 meters,
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  not the top nine people ran qualifiers for worlds, which I
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  don't know if this is usual or not, but I just thought like,
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  geez, that's it's either pretty good going or it shows that the
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  standard is maybe a little bit too soft.
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  Because for nine people to run the standard from just one mete,
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  I don't know, is that usual or not, But those women won't be
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  complaining. So it's 159 the standard and
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  you've got 157 winning at 157.42 and then all the way down to 9th
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  is 158.97. So they've they've smashed it
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  home there in the women's 3000 meters.
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  I wanted to shout this out for you, Owen, because Sarah Healey
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  was third in a time of 827 and I just looked up, that was the
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  second fastest Irish time ever, behind only Sonia O'Sullivan,
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  who we've referenced a few times because her daughter Sophie
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  O'Sullivan is I think still or was with MTC during the summer
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  anyway. So I mean, Sarah's no spring
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  chicken now either, is she? So to still be running the PB.
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  Sarah's around our age, but yeah, she's in that M11 track
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  group where Kelly Hodgkinson and Georgia Bell.
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  So she's like surrounded herself with like the best of the best.
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  So when you do that, you're going to get results.
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  But with with O'Sullivan, she is still in College in in America.
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  So she's with Washington State or Washington some some
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  university in Washington. So like on her spring breaks and
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  when she's off on holiday, she comes to Australia to train on
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  NTC. So she saw that half and half.
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  Yeah, nice. And then in the eight, in the
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  men's 800 meters, the guy in second was a British athlete,
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  Max Bergen. He's around 143.34, which is
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  obviously very quick in its own right.
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  But then for context, that was his season opener so it could be
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  1 to watch for this season. They're opening in a 143 low and
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  he's beaten like Emmanuel 1 Yoni 1 Yoni in 3rd who's obviously
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  been going really well this year already.
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  And that Max Bergen, isn't he like, renowned for like taking
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  it out really, really hard? Yeah, I think he just hit jumps
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  on the front and pumps it for as long as he can, doesn't he?
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  Yeah, I think so, yeah. Pretty bold and brave ways to do
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  it, but the guys clearly got the engine for it.
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  And then finally, yeah, finally A shout out to both.
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  Jude Thomas in the men's 1500 meters, he ran a time of 333
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  which put him into the top ten of all time for Australia, I
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  think maybe 9th. And then again, Owen, one of
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  your countrymen was two places higher than him in 8th.
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  Cath Al Doyle because is that if I said that right over butcher
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  that. It's Carl.
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  Oh yeah, butcher that completely.
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  And yeah, he trained. And.
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  Last Elliot Giles. OK, yeah.
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  What's that? What's their group?
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  I don't think the group has a name, but Elliot Giles has a
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  YouTube channel which is pretty good.
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  So yeah, we'll probably be a part of YouTube Diaries down the
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  line. But yeah, they're another like
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  good, a good running group and based in England.
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  Do you recall from because was it Elliot Giles that got the
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  light call up to the Olympics? Yeah.
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  And that his YouTube, he on his YouTube channel, he sort of
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  released like some of his reactions Sydney to when he was
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  like when he found out. And I think he was, he was like,
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  wasn't he camping with his family at altitude or do do you
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  recall? He's camping in front remote and
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  yeah, I think it was like 4 days before the Olympics he got the
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  call. Like he had to actually
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  initially he was camping somewhere and he's really
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  crowded. So he moved camping spot.
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  So he had to like pick up his tent, move it and then he got
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  the call. So then like they had to pick it
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  up again and just like go, I think find him at home or
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  something. I don't know.
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  But yeah, recently he's also trying to renovate his house.
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  It's like he does everything himself.
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  So it could like tile the bathroom, fix the floor, lower
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  boards because he was injured for a little bit there.
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  And so his YouTube it shows him like actually like doing the
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  home DIY. It's pretty good.
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  That's. Cool, in fact.
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  You know, the way sometimes you have to kind of justify running
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  related travel and like sell the other parts of it.
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  Like, for example, if you might be going to a race in Japan, you
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  can sell it to family about like, oh, well, we'll go and see
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  Tokyo and we've got this to do and that to do Elliot Giles is
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  prime example of it. There is like, Oh yeah, let's go
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  on a family camping holiday, but coincidentally we're going to
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  altitude to camp. Yeah.
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  And yeah, his YouTube's class, isn't it.
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  Maybe I should actually take some inspiration from that right
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  now because I remember when he was injured he was still making
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  videos about all of the cross training and swimming he was
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  doing. He's like.
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  Pretty raw in the sense that when he travels to, there you
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  go. He's like pretty renounced, like
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  low mileage. So traditionally he's like he
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  got on where he is now. I'm doing like low mileage, like
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  cross training a load when I was trying to like sort of
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  transition that because like everything nowadays is like run
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  more. So he's just trying to like do
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  it on the transition of like sort of open the mileage.
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  But it's obviously hard if you sort of pick up the Nagles here
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  and there. You used to.
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  Have you seen the thing? It's like literally like a cross
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  trainer, but on two wheels. It's like a cross trainer on a
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  bike. It's called elliptical.
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  Yeah, it's like elliptical it. Looks so fun.
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  Maybe the way to get around Paris, then around France.
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  He he often records like all the the ship parts of it, if you
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  like, like the crappy little hotels that they have to stay in
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  and jump him from a flight to a train and a bus and the constant
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  non-stop nature of it. And it makes you appreciate
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  like, fuck, these guys are operating at like the highest
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  level and the logistical obstacles that they have to
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  navigate and they still manage to stay like so fit and managed
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  to peek at like the exact at the right time.
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  It's pretty impressive. But yeah, shout out to Elliott
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  Charles YouTube channel there. We've just done YouTube Diaries
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  early on, but there we are. More things from last week.
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  I wanted to mention. The firstly was Connor Mance
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  winning that boulder to boulder 10K for the third year in a row
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  in 2820. So we beat the world 2023 silver
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  medalist in the 10,000 meters there.
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  And did you see the clips of how far from how far back he came
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  in, like the last mile? It's absolutely outrageous.
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  Yeah, just chlorine him, chlorine him back.
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  And it looks like, is that like a, is it like plastic, like like
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  a temporary surface that they finish on that he's like skating
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  around as he's trying to overtake him?
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  It's like the thing they put on like, like pitches when there's
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  concerts in the stadium. Yeah, you finish on that in the
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  Melbourne Running Festival because you finish on on the MCG
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  and they don't want the turf to get destroyed.
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  Yeah, I think it was the same in Perth running festival.
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  OK, Yeah. But yeah.
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  Yeah, and it was like a full on U-turn as well.
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  Wasn't it in the last like 100 meters?
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  Yeah, knows how to win, doesn't he?
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  Or knows how to put himself in a in the competition for like, you
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  know, he's like not someone that you want to be racing with a
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  mile to go do. No, it's nice to see that grift
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  and determination like finally pay off because he got done on
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  the line, didn't he, when he ran the the half marathon record for
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  for the US and then obviously like went into a really tough
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  battle at the front of Boston and ended up like coming out on
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  the wrong side of it. If you like him finishing 4th
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  and missing out on the podium. And then it's finally went his
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  way here and being able to claw that crazy deficit.
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  And lastly, the thing that I had on the cards from last week was
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  there was a Ottawa marathon, which is in Canada and Rory
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  Linklater ran there, finished second and two O 831.
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  And the just the point I wanted to make was a decent appearance
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  fee just to turn up to this for him to do it because he'd ran
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  Boston himself not so long ago, hasn't he?
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  So to turn around and get on the start line again so quickly, I
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  mean, he's obviously ran an unbelievable race to run 2O8,
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  but then he's inevitably he'll be doing well since September.
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  So I'm just thinking he must have got a nice payday for that
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  surely? Definitely and it is at home
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  marathon, so Tory's national marathon championships and so we
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  definitely would have gotten a nice bit of cash for joining it.
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  And that moves us on to the results from this week then.
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  So we'll start straight away with the Launceston, the McGrath
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  Launceston Running Festival. I don't know either of you guys
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  are a little bit better placed than I to talk about these
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  results. Yeah, I can.
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  I have watched a chunk of the strain this morning.
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  So that was on. Yeah.
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  So that's rundown in, in Tassie. And I think the weather was
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  pretty good from all reports. I think it was like close to 0°
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  and at least it didn't look too windy from what I could see.
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  And in terms of the history, like the the event, the key
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  event used to be the 10K event. So I ran the 10K or when we ran
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  the 10K last year, yeah. And that was, that was certainly
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  the deeper, deeper event. I think they were, they were
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  promoting the half marathon last year.
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  But certainly the the one that got a lot of the attention and
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  tends to attract the deeper field, albeit only a domestic
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  field, was the 10K. But they were trying to build it
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  with the aim of making it into what it was this year, which was
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  like a gold label event for the half marathon.
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  And as a result of it being a gold label event, it gets a lot
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  of ranking points for athletes, which is important, but it also
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  as a requirement, I think the organizers need to get a certain
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  caliber of athlete into the event.
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  And they did quite a good job in terms of getting some
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  international athletes, like largely Japanese runners come
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  over for it, which made the event really good.
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  But maybe if I start with the 10K results and build to the
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  half marathon results. So the 10K was after the half
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  marathon and in the women's it was Ruby Smee was first in 3257,
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  Jenny Blundell 3327 and Kate Spencer in 3334.
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  So I think they were together for a chunk of the race.
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  It looked pretty competitive, at least early on, like there was a
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  group of women running together whereas on the men's side Stewie
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  Mcswain one in 2758 and then it was James Hansen 2nd 2847 and
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  Matt Buckle in 29 O 8. Cool that first and second in
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  the men's were both Tassies. So good representation by the
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  Tassie men. Can I just give a little shout
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  out in that mail? Thank you.
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  When I was in Brisbane I trained with this group called Distance
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  Culture and I call Nick Dwar and he ran the 10K there last night
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  or last night for me this morning and he ran a 37 second
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  PB to run thirty O 7. Oh wow.
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  So yeah, phenomenal run from Nick.
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  I probably have to get those results up, but it looked like
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  there was a whole group of guys all finishing around the same
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  time. So a bit like so when I ran it
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  last year, there was a group of us.
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  We all finished thirty oh, between 30.
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  Oh, something can say 3012 like 8 of us or something.
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  And it looked similar again this year.
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  There was sort of the first few guys like Stewie just went was
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  was in quite made quite a gap early and then so did James
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  Hansen was sort of behind him. And from about the 2930, which
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  may have been 2920 because I think that the clock, what the
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  clock was showing and what the actual official times were read
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  about 10 seconds or 12 seconds different.
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  I think Owen, you had a bit more insight as to what actually
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  happened there. Yeah, I heard like a hooter went
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  off a couple of seconds before the actual race started.
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  So there was a slight time difference between like the gun
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  time and the net time. But I think they fixed the
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  results now and. But yeah, that could have been
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  messed up the splits initially. Yeah, because I think when I
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  will watching the live stream, the commentators with the 1st 2K
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  Stewie went through was like close to 6 minutes, which didn't
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  seem right. And but then and then when he
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  crossed the line, it was reading around 2810, which I think his
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  PB was 2804. So given you'd sort of hadn't
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  heard much from him, like pretty cool that he's come out, he's
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  still able to come out and run a PB and I think just talks to the
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  course like it is just such a like if you were to create a
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  list of Australian running events to target each year, like
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  it just I just think this event in terms of the depth, the depth
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  of field and the quality of the event.
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  Like it's a fast course with good weather like the elevation
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  profile and a deep field. Like it has to be like one of
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  the wants to seek out like Gold Coast.
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  I think the course profiles are amazing and the depth of fields
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  amazing, but you're still running at weather.
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  That's not it doesn't compare, I don't think, to the Launceston
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  weather. Yeah, Launceston is just, it's
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  got everything for a good race, like temperature, flat course on
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  stacked field, like when you've done three, it just makes for a
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  great race. Yeah, it has to be 1 to target,
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  I think next year for sure. I might target it next year, fly
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  back over. Yes, really not.
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  Yeah, because Matt Hanson, have you seen his?
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  Does he has a YouTube? Series do.
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  You remember him. Yeah, he he's based in America
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  in college, isn't he? Yeah, yeah, he runs.
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  He runs 14 low for 5K. Yeah, he so he ran 30.
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  A couple thresholds, guys. Yeah, he.
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  Is yeah, so I ran, I raced with him last year and we must have,
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  he must have run maybe at the same time because we ran
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  together last year. And so when I saw his, I could
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  see his sort of profile as he was running towards the the
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  finishing shoot. So yeah, he's obviously finished
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  just ahead of of your men. Can I just say, as you mentioned
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  him, he's, I went to one of the FTK live shows once when I was
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  living in Melbourne and he must have been, I don't know if he's
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  has connections to Melbourne or what, but he was there anyway.
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  And Joel Tobin White was like, Oh no, this guy's in the crowd.
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  Like he's, he's going to be heckling me and mocking me all
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  throughout. And he just, he couldn't wait to
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  like, put his hand up at certain points and like question things
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  and like add in his own opinion here and there.
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  So that was where I picked up on that guy.
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  And then I seen his YouTube and stuff on the back of that.
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  But yeah, he's he seems like good entertainment as well as a
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  good runner. Funny, funny you mentioned that
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  at that 10K last year. So I think I was like running in
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  a pack with Matt and we ran past.
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  I don't think Joel Tobin White was having a particularly good
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  day. And he was there was the front,
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  there was the front group and we ran past and then Matt turned to
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  Joel and said like, come on, Joel, hop on, might get
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  something out of it or something like that.
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  And clearly like Joel wasn't in the I don't think Joel was in
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  the the mood to like, I don't think he was prepared to rally.
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  So he just copped a drive by of a bit of a backhanded compliment
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  as he's just blown up early in the race.
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  So found that amusing. How's Joel's running going?
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  Because I haven't listened to much podcasts in general since
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  I've gotten back, but how's he getting on?
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  We should, I don't know. I mean, it's Brett's coaching if
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  it's not going well, right? But is he?
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  Is he kind of put his training on the podcast?
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  I don't know, have you listened, Ryan?
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  I've been listening to the the fall guys to to be honest, and I
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  did enjoy listening to the for the Kudos podcast.
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  But I, I, I think I heard again on the live stream today, I was
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  running around listening to and I mentioned that he was maybe
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  doing, he was maybe alongside the road at one point.
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  So maybe he's doing a long run while he was down there.
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  So. I don't think he was racing
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  today, but that's about all I know.
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  I have listened to it but mate, perhaps not for a couple of
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  weeks. I think he was due to do
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  Ballarat half wasn't he? And then he ended up with some
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  like I can't remember what it was now, but he got injured in
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  like literally the week prior to it.
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  I think before that his training was going pretty well.
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  So he's maybe going to be in decent shape at Ballarat and
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  then like as with anything, one thing leads to another and then
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  like a little bit of sickness and stuff.
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  So I don't know, I think he's trying to target Gold Coast
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  Marathon, but that's going to come around pretty quickly from
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  from now. So I don't know, I haven't heard
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  the past few weeks to be. Fair enough.
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  Shall we move on to the half marathon?
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  So in the women in the women's race, Jess Stenson won in 6951
• 21:00
  and then Yumi Yoshikara was second in 7043 and Caitlin Adams
• 21:05
  in 3rd in 7141. So on the live stream, I think
• 21:10
  the three top three ladies were all running together, at least
• 21:14
  for the 1st 30 something minutes I think.
• 21:16
  And then you could see sort of Jess starting to stretch away a
• 21:20
  little bit. And I think, yeah, the race sort
• 21:23
  of just broke up from from there.
• 21:27
  It looked like it was again, like some good internationals
• 21:30
  that were sort of making the race competitive.
• 21:32
  But it always looked like Jess was always in the front of the
• 21:35
  group and looked pretty in control.
• 21:38
  And yeah, pretty pretty fast times running under 70 minutes
• 21:41
  for 1/2. Do you know if so do you know at
• 21:43
  the 10K you start like on the outside of the city and you run
• 21:48
  along the motorway do U-turn and come back in?
• 21:50
  Is the half like the same course or what is?
• 21:54
  That yeah, sorry, I was trying to work out from watching it,
• 21:59
  like because I I'd heard that they'd removed a hill that was
• 22:02
  there last year, but it was hard for me to hard for me to tell,
• 22:06
  to be honest. But it definitely didn't look
• 22:09
  very what like wasn't like they were making many turns.
• 22:13
  So I think they must have continued out along that road.
• 22:16
  It looked like it's still finished, you know, as you come
• 22:18
  back in on that 10K road, like it looks like you're still
• 22:21
  coming back in on that out and back stretch.
• 22:24
  Yeah, yeah. I don't know why, but you know
• 22:26
  how they just you know where we come in and you do 2 right angle
• 22:29
  turns. So for the 10K and what makes
• 22:32
  this course so good is you're running on this like 4 lane
• 22:36
  highway and you're literally just going out chucking a UE and
• 22:40
  it's a pretty large U-turn as well.
• 22:42
  And then on the way back, so it has one major turn and then two
• 22:45
  right angle turns and then you're on the finishing shoot.
• 22:47
  It's like really, really well designed or chosen course.
• 22:51
  But for the half they go just past that finishing shoot and
• 22:55
  instead of chucking the right angle, like turn in there, you
• 22:58
  know, they go just past, then Chuck AU turn and then come back
• 23:00
  in. To make the.
• 23:02
  Latest Do you remember saying that?
• 23:04
  Yeah, it doesn't make sense. Yeah, they they still have that.
• 23:08
  And I'm like, it's so unnecessary.
• 23:09
  It's like in the last kilometre of the race, everyone's wrecked
• 23:12
  and you're having to basically like stop and run around that
• 23:15
  turn. I just feel like it's just just
• 23:17
  like it's like you, you're going part you, you're sighting the
• 23:20
  finish line, missing it, and you're having to slow down for
• 23:23
  AU turn. It'd be nice if they nitpicking,
• 23:25
  but it'd be nice if they got rid of that.
• 23:26
  That's the only fault on the well, it's not the most scenic
• 23:28
  course either. Like you're just putting a lot
• 23:30
  more away, but you're going drunk.
• 23:32
  Yeah, you don't care about that. No.
• 23:34
  And I guess yeah. And maybe just a comment on the
• 23:37
  like the men's time. So like the top three, I think
• 23:40
  there was 14 men under 65 minutes.
• 23:44
  The winner was is it Tariqi Shimada in 6112, then Isaac
• 23:48
  Hayne from SA was 6113 and then Brett Robinson, who I think was
• 23:54
  trying to go for a four peat. I think he'd won Launceston at
• 23:56
  least the 10K the last three years.
• 23:59
  Or maybe he won the half last year.
• 24:01
  Yeah, sorry. He won the half last year and
• 24:02
  then maybe the 10 the two years prior, but in he was third in
• 24:05
  6120. Yeah.
• 24:08
  Is that but in Is that a bit of a shower by Isaac Hain there to
• 24:13
  finish second in that field at 6130?
• 24:16
  And it's a massive time, isn't it?
• 24:18
  Yeah, he he just seems to be like built for the half marathon
• 24:21
  because he actually never went out of the bag and goal posts as
• 24:25
  well. And then I feel he dropped down
• 24:27
  to like a few 5 KS and he just, he didn't perform as well as he
• 24:30
  did in the half as they built for the marathon sort of
• 24:32
  distances. Yeah, So did he, because was he
• 24:35
  second to Andy Buchanan in the Gold Coast half last year at,
• 24:38
  yeah, Gold Coast Marathon? I think those guys were duking
• 24:41
  it out with all the Japanese contingent last year.
• 24:44
  And I think Isaac ran really well.
• 24:46
  So yeah, like seems really good at that, you know, threshold
• 24:50
  hour running. When you look at the results
• 24:52
  list there, like just the names he's beating, he's obviously
• 24:54
  beating Brett and 3rd. Then Liam Boudin is obviously
• 24:58
  just run unbelievable marathon. Sam Clifford, like you know what
• 25:01
  he's been doing this year and the 20. 738.
• 25:05
  And Greg? Yeah, yeah, super stacked.
• 25:08
  But yeah, I think you wouldn't if you were to try.
• 25:11
  And if you were laying odds before the race as to who the
• 25:13
  first Aussie was, you. I mean, I don't think you'd
• 25:16
  probably even have him in your top three, would you?
• 25:18
  No, I'd say so. I'm clever and disappointed with
• 25:20
  that results. Yeah, if you run the Australian
• 25:23
  record, road, 10K record, right, and he's a Tasmanian, you would,
• 25:28
  I reckon, Yeah, he would have been.
• 25:30
  And he was looking really good to be honest, through halfway.
• 25:33
  But yeah, those guys were, it was a really good race, like so
• 25:37
  in the last. So it was streamed through, you
• 25:40
  could watch it through the like their Facebook page had a live
• 25:44
  stream, which they often do, which was really good and great
• 25:47
  commentary. But yeah, it was sort of pretty
• 25:50
  close. There was a Japanese pacemaker
• 25:52
  that sort of set the race up and they were going for, is it Pat
• 25:55
  Carroll, I think has the Australian all comers record,
• 25:58
  which is 6111, which if they didn't have to do that shitty
• 26:01
  U-turn towards the end, they probably run because they, yeah,
• 26:05
  won in 6112. But the race there was probably
• 26:09
  8 or 8 to 10 of them together through halfway set up with a
• 26:12
  pacemaker. And then there was, I think that
• 26:16
  included say 3 or 4 Japanese. And then, yeah, those Aussies
• 26:20
  that you mentioned, Ryan, and it was just, yeah, it was just a
• 26:23
  really well set up race. It looked like, it looked like a
• 26:26
  lot of fun. And then even beyond that, there
• 26:28
  was a lot of good depth, which is cool.
• 26:30
  So I mean this what happens when you, when you have so much
• 26:33
  success, then when you don't have a great run, people are
• 26:36
  like, oh, that's a bad run. How's that happened?
• 26:39
  So what, how did Andy end up running 6242?
• 26:43
  Obviously he wouldn't be too happy with that either.
• 26:45
  I was actually asking Dean about this and sort of like, I think
• 26:49
  you're now on the head team. Yeah, I just thought Log is
• 26:52
  probably hard, Like he's only five weeks after London Marathon
• 26:57
  and so I don't know what he's done, what he would have done
• 26:59
  for the two weeks after. But if you're freshening into
• 27:02
  London and then having a couple of weeks of jogging, he's only
• 27:05
  realistically trained for three weeks.
• 27:07
  Like it's a pretty short turn around, like.
• 27:10
  And so, yeah, it's really interesting.
• 27:12
  Like you say, Brett, who just paced at London, ran a good 10K
• 27:16
  staying on in London and sort of trained consistently since
• 27:19
  Maragami when he ran 62 minutes or 61 high.
• 27:22
  And what did Andy run like 60-30?
• 27:25
  But then Andy sort of peaked for a race and now so they're only
• 27:28
  just coming back. Like you could see Andy was
• 27:30
  like, you know when you can see like if you're all red and pink,
• 27:33
  like where you're just working really hard.
• 27:35
  He looked like he was like falling off the back a bit after
• 27:37
  about 20 minutes, and then maybe 20, maybe 10 to 15 minutes
• 27:42
  later, it's sort of falling off the back.
• 27:44
  I just think it's hard to sort of, yeah, turn your fitness
• 27:47
  around that quickly and get yourself into peak shape.
• 27:50
  I mean you maybe get yourself into decent shape but like peak
• 27:53
  shapes hard. Well, I mean, look at me
• 27:55
  Saturday being critical, like Andy ran a marathon the same day
• 27:59
  I ran my marathon. And if you tell me I would run a
• 28:03
  half marathon today, 2 minutes off my personal best, I'd be
• 28:07
  pretty happy with it and wouldn't be too happy with
• 28:09
  someone telling me it was a shit run.
• 28:13
  So. The I mean, Speaking of people
• 28:16
  that were able to turn it around, so two guys that I that
• 28:19
  we raced at Ballarat, so Fraser Darcy and Matt Schaumburg, those
• 28:25
  guys, they were 14th and 15th and they ran 6455 and 65 O 1.
• 28:30
  So that's possibly PBS for them. So they were able to, you know,
• 28:33
  turn things around pretty quickly.
• 28:35
  Yeah, well, well, Fraser ran a marathon the week after as well,
• 28:38
  didn't he? Yeah, he did.
• 28:39
  But that was Launceston. Shall I cover off on the Leonora
• 28:43
  Golden gift? Yeah, Tell, tell us about this
• 28:45
  because I'm, I'm intrigued because I know it's got a bit of
• 28:48
  a different set up and background, doesn't it?
• 28:50
  It's a bit of a one off this me. Yeah, I think RAF and we really
• 28:56
  need to get RAF to, you know, it's better coming from the
• 28:59
  horse's mouth. But it's a race in like, yeah,
• 29:04
  in Leonora, which is a bit of a, it's a gold mining town in
• 29:09
  regional WA. And the race, I think RAF was I
• 29:14
  think involved in sort of the, in sort of sowing the seeds to
• 29:18
  sort of get this race off the ground, which is just attracting
• 29:21
  sort of people to the town. And they have a mix of elite
• 29:24
  races as well as like some open races for locals to get involved
• 29:29
  in. And it's just a, it's a fun
• 29:31
  weekend of racing that they do up and down the the main strip
• 29:34
  in Leonora. And I think what they do in
• 29:37
  terms of the event is they get a lot of like young, talented
• 29:40
  elite athletes into the town. And I think they do try and
• 29:43
  immerse them into the community a bit.
• 29:45
  And so I think it's a really seen as a really positive sort
• 29:48
  of community event, which is really nice.
• 29:50
  And I think one of the major miners sort of gets behind the
• 29:53
  event and they put on fairly substantial prize money
• 29:58
  throughout the event. So there's a whole series of
• 30:00
  races from like you have like AI think there's like a 400 meter
• 30:04
  steel cap boot dash, like 600 meter Sprint, open mile, elite
• 30:08
  miles. And then they used to have
• 30:10
  cycling races. I don't know if they still keep
• 30:12
  the cycling events, but they make it a real spectacle and
• 30:15
  it's a real fun, I think event run over the couple of days and
• 30:20
  it's it's these short circuit Rd. races.
• 30:22
  So it's sort of every 200 metres you're doing this hairpin
• 30:25
  U-turn. So times aren't really relevant.
• 30:28
  It's really just about competing against each other.
• 30:31
  And they historically and continued to attract really good
• 30:35
  fields, which is cool. What?
• 30:37
  What do you reckon? Yes, 400 meters in steel tow cup
• 30:42
  Beatson. I know Matt Smith's won that one
• 30:46
  before SO, but I must admit I don't spend much time in the
• 30:50
  steel cap so I'm probably not well qualified.
• 30:54
  I wonder how how they how they compare on a scale compared to
• 30:58
  like a pair of alpha flies or something.
• 31:00
  Yeah. Probably not.
• 31:03
  Yeah, similar weight to the alpha fly, but less responsive
• 31:07
  there, I say. And Runners Tribe always like
• 31:12
  there's always a dream through runners tribe.
• 31:15
  And RAF is typically the the MC for the day and does a great job
• 31:19
  in terms of giving people an insight into all the different
• 31:22
  athletes that are that are racing.
• 31:24
  Did you manage to catch it live on the stream or?
• 31:28
  Yeah, I watched. The.
• 31:30
  Women's and men's finals. So the heats were on yesterday
• 31:34
  and then the finals were on today.
• 31:38
  Aaron yeah, you got the F1 on there or what there's?
• 31:42
  Some There's a lot of noise. This You know what's making the
• 31:46
  sound? The noises.
• 31:47
  Can you? Could you hear that right?
• 31:49
  Yeah, it's like, right, Right. Imagine the birds I.
• 31:54
  Think it was it was it was Martin Brundle's grid walk, I
• 31:57
  think I. Didn't have it on.
• 32:05
  It won't start until. No, all right.
• 32:10
  But yeah, so the women's race was one the the women's field
• 32:15
  seemed like an open field. I think Georgia Wincup was maybe
• 32:19
  earmarked by Raffeny's as as as maybe one to watch.
• 32:24
  But the winner was Zoe Milhush in 442 and she beat home
• 32:31
  Stephanie Kelly in 445 and Georgia Wincup in 453.
• 32:38
  So names that are probably less familiar, at least in recent
• 32:43
  times, but we did do some digging.
• 32:48
  We did do some digging in terms of recent form.
• 32:50
  And they all competed in Perth at the 1500 meter, in Perth at
• 32:56
  the Aussie Champs in the 1500 meters.
• 32:59
  And Stephanie Kelly finished 8th in the final, 100th of a second
• 33:04
  in front of Georgia, who was ninth in the final.
• 33:07
  And Zoe, who ended up winning and taking home 7 1/2 grand.
• 33:12
  Well, actually, it's probably 7 1/2 grand in a gold nugget.
• 33:15
  She actually didn't make the final in the 1500s at nationals.
• 33:19
  So she was run out of the heats in in in 12th.
• 33:22
  So dare I say a bit of an upset. Maybe it's just hit a hit a hit
• 33:27
  form later in the season, but pretty cool payday for for Zoe,
• 33:31
  which is which is really cool. And I think part of what that
• 33:34
  event's about. It's sort of unearthing young
• 33:36
  talent and it's and it's yeah. And it's in, from what RAF
• 33:42
  explains, a really fun event for people to get connected to
• 33:46
  Australian culture. Or for, for British or Irish
• 33:51
  listeners where you say 7 1/2 grand and a golden nugget,
• 33:55
  they'll be thinking they get a box of golden Nuggets like the
• 33:59
  cereal. But as you, as you explained,
• 34:03
  it's an, it's an actual gold mine in town.
• 34:06
  And this is a a physical piece of gold, like how big in size?
• 34:10
  Like you your fingernail or something?
• 34:13
  Yeah, I think so. It's about 2 ounces of gold and
• 34:16
  I think what is it? What's an ounce of gold?
• 34:18
  2000 something Aussie at the minute.
• 34:20
  Yeah, so it's, it's a little bit more than a box of cereal, isn't
• 34:25
  it? Yeah, so I think it's about 55
• 34:27
  grand. Aussie in gold.
• 34:28
  Question, if you lose 1 would you get rid of the gold straight
• 34:32
  away or would you hold on to it? I'd push it in.
• 34:35
  The gold keeps appreciating. Yeah, it would.
• 34:36
  Depend on it would depend on my financial status in that moment.
• 34:40
  I'd like to say I would keep it because it'd be be pretty cool
• 34:44
  to keep a piece of gold, wouldn't it?
• 34:46
  And obviously it would always be from a race that you'd run,
• 34:49
  you'd won rather. But yeah, it depends how badly
• 34:52
  you need 5 grand at the time could come in handy.
• 34:55
  Yeah. Yeah, I'll probably hold on to
• 34:58
  it as well. I think Sinead, do you remember
• 35:00
  Sinead Noonan? Yeah, Now Freiburg, she, she won
• 35:04
  one during COVID, I think. So I wonder if she still has her
• 35:09
  nugget. But yes, on to the men's race.
• 35:13
  The men's race was an exciting race.
• 35:16
  So the the way it actually went out was Max Shervington.
• 35:23
  So Perth guy who was mentioned just qualified for like World
• 35:27
  Uni Games and is and is 1. I think he won the Perth 15103 K
• 35:33
  and 5K this year. So in some pretty good form, he
• 35:36
  sort of led, he led it out and it was a really hot 1st 400.
• 35:40
  I think the first 400 was in 60 seconds, 1st 800 maybe in two
• 35:44
  flat, which when you're doing a like when you're stopping
• 35:47
  essentially every 200 meters or not quite every 200 because
• 35:51
  you're during that long stretch, you go past the start finish.
• 35:54
  But when you're doing a heap of U turns, it was a pretty brisk
• 35:57
  start. And who followed him were Peat
• 36:00
  Bowl, Adam Goddard, Matt and Matt Ramsdon.
• 36:04
  And Brad, is it Mel Hoose, they sort of followed.
• 36:08
  They followed Max's move. And then there was another group
• 36:12
  which Tom Moorcroft and others were in.
• 36:16
  And so Ethan White Smith and a whole whole host of others and
• 36:21
  all the rest of the the final eight.
• 36:23
  But Max started to pay a pay some pretty heavy tax maybe
• 36:27
  after about 8-9 hundred meters. And that's when Pete, Adam and
• 36:32
  Rammstein sort of started to press ahead.
• 36:34
  And yeah, basically at one point, maybe with 300 to go,
• 36:40
  Matt tried to make a bit of a move, but Pete sort of covered
• 36:43
  all of it. Adam Goddard was sort of never
• 36:45
  looked like he was about to fall off.
• 36:48
  And then it just was probably in the last two 250 meters.
• 36:51
  Pete just looked too good and just had too much wheels.
• 36:54
  And I think he still had time to basically look over his shoulder
• 36:56
  and celebrate. And so he came in in four O 643.
• 37:00
  Adam Goddard second in four O 680 and Branson was four O 733.
• 37:06
  And yeah, Tom Warcroft was one of the best of the rest.
• 37:09
  He was home 5th in in 415. What would that 415 equate to in
• 37:18
  just a straight up mile race on the track?
• 37:20
  Yeah, I'm not, I don't. It's hard, right?
• 37:22
  I mean, I'd say at least 10 seconds I reckon.
• 37:25
  I reckon it's probably like 1011 seconds, right?
• 37:29
  Like I mean, four O 6 is what Pete ran.
• 37:32
  I mean 355 maybe makes sense. He's just run 143 to win
• 37:36
  National 800 meters. So maybe something like that
• 37:39
  That's good. Running.
• 37:41
  Yeah, but 406 around those U turns is like flying like.
• 37:45
  What? Yeah, they're turning how how
• 37:47
  long is it to 400 meter loop? Four.
• 37:49
  Yeah, well, it's, they start halfway up the loop and then
• 37:52
  they're running 200 meters. U-turn.
• 37:54
  Turn. And so they're turning every
• 37:56
  400, but then in the last 1st 202 hundred, yeah.
• 38:00
  That's right. Yeah.
• 38:01
  So I don't know if it's like 6 U turns, maybe somewhere between
• 38:03
  4:00 and 6:00 U turns, but that's so it's rapid what they
• 38:06
  ran for that. Yeah, it's not even like a test
• 38:09
  of obviously it is a test of fitness, but it's also be so
• 38:13
  much more tough on your muscles to accelerate out of those turns
• 38:17
  every single time. Isn't it like Pete has obviously
• 38:20
  won because he's ran the fastest time, but doesn't necessarily
• 38:24
  mean he's the the fittest and the fastest to run a mile on the
• 38:28
  track on the day? He might just be a bit more
• 38:31
  conditioned, but I mean, he probably is because he's been
• 38:35
  going really well this year. But yeah, I was just thinking
• 38:37
  about having to accelerate out of those turns every single
• 38:41
  time. It'd just blow your quads up,
• 38:42
  wouldn't it? Yeah, I think that's a bit of a.
• 38:45
  To Max, that's happened to Max as well, like he was going well
• 38:47
  and just I'd say you just accelerating too much out of the
• 38:50
  turns and it just built up the lactic.
• 38:53
  And it's a good point you made Owen just around his choice to
• 38:57
  his choice to race, like Pete's choice to race because he so he
• 39:01
  ran in the most recent Grand Slam track meet.
• 39:05
  Is that right? He ran in where was it?
• 39:09
  Philadelphia's this today, and it was Florida before he would
• 39:13
  run through Miami. Yeah, Miami.
• 39:15
  Yeah, that's right, Miami, FL Yeah, because the F1 was on.
• 39:20
  So he turned down the payday for some local, local race, which is
• 39:25
  cool. Got him back to Perth.
• 39:26
  So was Pete, was he injured for like the pretty much the
• 39:29
  entirety of last year? I think for a chunk of it
• 39:32
  because he was on like one of those celebrity shows, so he
• 39:34
  must have been injured for at least a part of it.
• 39:37
  And then already he's got at least 30 grand from Grand Slam
• 39:43
  at least like 1012 grand or whatever from today, amongst
• 39:47
  anything else he's done this year.
• 39:49
  He's he's going to be making a decent amount of money from his
• 39:52
  career this year. It's funny because when you said
• 39:54
  he's on one of those celebrity shows, I went to the Australian
• 39:58
  Open last year and there was like, who?
• 40:01
  Did you message? Now that there was a bit out of
• 40:05
  my league that one, my messages to Novak are still unread,
• 40:09
  unfortunately. That's good.
• 40:12
  They had this like exhibition type event with Djokovic called
• 40:16
  Novak and friends and like him and Sabalenko were like playing
• 40:20
  informally and they were miked up.
• 40:23
  It was dead cool because you think Novak's quite boring or
• 40:27
  he's a little bit mustard. Like obviously all the stuff
• 40:29
  with COVID pissed some people off and made some people like
• 40:32
  him and whatever. But he was, he had such a good
• 40:35
  personality when he had the mic on, like he was a good, good
• 40:38
  crowd entertainer. So then he brought out like,
• 40:42
  who's the Australian batsman Steve Smith?
• 40:44
  He brought out. Some basketballer and then Pete
• 40:48
  Ball was one of the people who came out and him and Novak were
• 40:52
  doing like shuttle runs on the tennis court, like racing
• 40:56
  against each other. But yeah, it's it's mad he's
• 41:00
  gone from doing stuff like that to being back competing at the
• 41:02
  highest level. Bit of talent.
• 41:04
  Well, we move. From the results entirely, and
• 41:08
  this is just Ryan back with a little insight to talk about
• 41:11
  Grand Slam Track because when we recorded, the results weren't
• 41:14
  finalized. So you may know Sistina now and
• 41:17
  don't have too much to say about these results, but that's
• 41:20
  because they're not actually here.
• 41:22
  But I didn't want to put the podcast out without these
• 41:24
  results because it's kind of like a big part of the weekend
• 41:27
  that's just been. So it was the 3rd rendition of
• 41:30
  Grand Slam Track, this time hosted in Philadelphia at
• 41:34
  Franklin Field at the University of Philadelphia.
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  So this is one of the most historic venues in track and
• 41:39
  field and one of the oldest in the US.
• 41:43
  So it's been going for over 125 years home of the Pen Relays.
• 41:47
  And it's just looks very cool the way it's set out and kind of
• 41:52
  like got a collegiate feel. And then obviously you're
• 41:55
  throwing into the mix all the elite athletes.
• 41:57
  I think Grand Slam have done very well in choosing this
• 42:00
  location because the crowd as well, they used to see in high
• 42:05
  quality athletics and they're obviously tuned into elite level
• 42:08
  athletics. So they get really good
• 42:11
  engagement from the crowd. And what's also interesting
• 42:13
  about this was it has a unique layout this track.
• 42:17
  So the 400 meter lap is ran in lane 4, which means that was
• 42:22
  quite bizarre to watch. But for the 800, for example,
• 42:25
  when traditionally all the athletes would start obviously
• 42:29
  in this heated lanes and then they merge after, is it like 100
• 42:33
  meters or so? They merge into obviously the
• 42:35
  inside lane and run, run the race there.
• 42:38
  But for this one, they merge into lane 4.
• 42:41
  So that means that the athletes who started in lanes 1-2 and
• 42:45
  three have to move over to their right.
• 42:47
  And obviously the athletes who are in 5678 move across as
• 42:51
  normal, but they're not all moving to the actual inside
• 42:54
  rail. They're all moving to the 4th
• 42:57
  lane, which is quite bizarre. But again, it made for interest
• 43:00
  in viewing. So the the.
• 43:02
  Changes in the in the location of the track also coincide added
• 43:06
  with some changes to the actual event format.
• 43:09
  So they listened. Grand Slam claimed they listened
• 43:12
  to feedback from both the athletes and spectators.
• 43:16
  So with three meets in now and they've condensed the format
• 43:19
  from three days to two days to try and streamline the agenda
• 43:23
  and enhance the spectators experience.
• 43:26
  So it's just a little bit more consumable just being over those
• 43:29
  two days. So how they've done this was
• 43:31
  they removed the 5000 meters from the distance event, which
• 43:35
  meant that in the long distance there was only a 3000m race.
• 43:39
  So on the back of that, they also have the prize money in
• 43:42
  this discipline. So instead of the athletes
• 43:45
  winning 100K for 1st, 50K per second and so on, it was half
• 43:50
  SO50K first, 25K per second. But if you think about all's
• 43:54
  they're doing for that is run 10 up, running one 3000 meters,
• 43:57
  then I guess it's not so bad. But there was 1 notable
• 44:01
  absentee. The guy who's been cleaning up
• 44:03
  Grant Fisher, he didn't turn up for this one.
• 44:06
  Tried to find out whether he was injured or not.
• 44:09
  It doesn't seem like there's anything out there about him
• 44:11
  being injured. So it's potentially a
• 44:13
  combination of whether so he's won 200 two 100,000 in the past
• 44:16
  six or so weeks. So a potential 50,000 isn't
• 44:21
  enough to outweigh the risks of him and a balance this season so
• 44:25
  that you can re peak again at the right times.
• 44:28
  So this sounds like some clever planning from Fisher and his
• 44:32
  team there, But that also gave the opportunity to some of the
• 44:34
  other athletes, which we'll we'll get to when we when I talk
• 44:38
  through the results. And the other thing with this
• 44:40
  was I didn't actually watch any of it live and that's been a
• 44:44
  negative of some of the other. The first one in Kingston and in
• 44:49
  Miami, obviously with the time difference there, it's quite
• 44:52
  hard. But also with the three day
• 44:55
  thing, there's like there's racing on all the time.
• 44:57
  You don't really know when to tune in because you don't really
• 45:00
  want to sit there for hours on end watching potentially had
• 45:03
  those races and stuff. What you're not too fussed
• 45:05
  about. So they've actually put out
• 45:08
  these extended highlight reels on YouTube.
• 45:10
  So they're around 13 to 15 minutes long and they've been
• 45:15
  put together really well. So it's been obviously cropped
• 45:18
  from start to finish. You've got Steve Crown, I think
• 45:20
  it is on the commentary. It's almost like a match of the
• 45:24
  day or just like a really good summary of each day.
• 45:28
  So there's a day one, one and a day 2/1 and yeah, it just cuts
• 45:32
  to kind of like the last lap of each discipline, regardless of
• 45:35
  what it is really, which you think for a three 3000 or
• 45:39
  potentially you're not seeing the full picture of the race.
• 45:42
  But with the way that these have been run, they've literally
• 45:44
  jogged for 11 1/2 lap. No, the 5K isn't it.
• 45:48
  How many laps? Around 3000 meters.
• 45:50
  Yeah, 7 1/2 laps. So they've literally jogged for
• 45:54
  6 1/2 laps and then they kick down the last lap.
• 45:58
  So you're not actually missing out on too much essentially with
• 46:01
  the 1500 meters there. That's the one where you're not
• 46:04
  going to see some of the earlier moves going on.
• 46:06
  But again, the times that they're running, they're not
• 46:08
  like 320 nines or anything. They're like 330 fours for the
• 46:12
  men. So most of the the action and
• 46:15
  the moves are being made in that last lap anyway.
• 46:17
  And then they cut to an interview with the the person
• 46:21
  who won and then they show the race standings for that race.
• 46:24
  You see the 128 or that, and then what that means for the
• 46:27
  overall standings for the full events with the split, if you
• 46:31
  like. So it's really good summary.
• 46:33
  And as hard as it is to consume what goes on here because
• 46:36
  there's just so much that is probably the best way to do so.
• 46:40
  Well, how I found anyway, I quite enjoyed going through it.
• 46:43
  So I'm going to try and talk through the results.
• 46:45
  Now we're going to look at the 815, 100 split, which is the
• 46:50
  short distance event. So first up for that in the men,
• 46:54
  the 800 meter race was on the first day.
• 46:56
  So Marco, a rock there, who is the 800 meter specialist, he
• 47:01
  just cut himself loose from the pack and started driving from a
• 47:06
  decent while out and no one was able to go with him and it was
• 47:09
  an easy win for him. So he's ran 143.38 to get the
• 47:14
  win there. Then in second there was Josh
• 47:17
  Howie, the American guy who I think we spoke about him a few
• 47:20
  weeks back. I think he was just ran the
• 47:22
  American record for the 800 meters out of nowhere or ran a
• 47:26
  ridiculously fast time. Anyway, he was in second.
• 47:29
  In third was yard and a goose. So kind of like the best of the
• 47:32
  rest of the 1500 meters guys. He was 145.36 so and shows how
• 47:38
  how dragged out the field was from what a rock done to it.
• 47:42
  Then we had Hobbs Kessler 4th, Josh Kerr 5th, Cole Hawker
• 47:46
  sixth, Samuel Chapel of the Netherlands in 7th and Elliott
• 47:50
  Giles who was our YouTube Diaries feature in 8th.
• 47:55
  And it will actually be cool to see if we can link this together
• 47:59
  to see if Ellie Giles does a YouTube video on this meet,
• 48:03
  which I imagine he will. So watch this space for that one
• 48:06
  because it might tie it all together nicely.
• 48:08
  And just to link back to the racer and the challenger element
• 48:11
  there. So obviously the way these
• 48:13
  fields are put together, they have and a half of them are
• 48:16
  races who are guys contracted for the whole series and and
• 48:21
  then half of them are challenges.
• 48:22
  So this is like people who are in form or just whoever the meat
• 48:26
  can contact the kind of come and throw the cat amongst the
• 48:29
  pigeons if you like for one off events.
• 48:32
  So the fair Marco a wrap who was first was racer, Josh Howie, who
• 48:38
  was second was a challenger and you had no goose and 3rd is also
• 48:42
  a racer. So it's always just interesting
• 48:44
  to look at that dynamic. There are the guys who are here
• 48:47
  all year able to hold the form and justify the contract if you
• 48:51
  like, because you expect the challenges to come in and be at
• 48:55
  the top of the game essentially. That's why they've been brought
• 48:57
  in. And then in the 1500m race on
• 49:00
  the second day, Josh Kerr managed to just dip this one in
• 49:04
  334.44, head of Cole Hawker in 334.51.
• 49:10
  So it was literally whoever could dip the best on the line
• 49:15
  there. And again, as they're kind of
• 49:17
  coming round between 3 and 200 to go maybe around 2:50, a ROP
• 49:23
  obviously knows he's won the event the day before and he
• 49:25
  knows he needs to kind of make himself competitive because he
• 49:28
  got a chance of walking away with 100 grand and he hits the
• 49:32
  front and just starts driving and driving.
• 49:35
  And then you see the strength of those 1500 meter guys because
• 49:39
  although they can't match a wraps top speed and he manages
• 49:42
  to gap them a little bit initially, he just can't keep
• 49:46
  that up for 250 meters at the back end of a 1500m race there.
• 49:50
  So then coming off the last bend and Josh care and call Hawker
• 49:55
  kinda RIP away and they're driving towards the line.
• 49:58
  They completely gap a rock and yet Care just out dips Hawker.
• 50:02
  So then in 3rd was Hobbs Kessler.
• 50:05
  He managed to come away with them as well.
• 50:08
  Michael a rock managed to hang on for 4th, which meant that he
• 50:11
  won overall. And then that meant that in
• 50:14
  second overall, Josh Kerr got himself up there and it was
• 50:19
  close. So they end up K Rob had 17
• 50:22
  points overall, Kerr had 16 points overall.
• 50:25
  Josh Howie, the American athlete was in 3rd overall with 12
• 50:28
  points and Cole Hocker down in fourth overall with 11 points.
• 50:32
  So it's it's interesting really, because Hocker being the Olympic
• 50:36
  champ, he hasn't actually managed to do anything special
• 50:39
  in any of these so far, but he is kind of continually making
• 50:42
  small steps forward. And obviously, Cliche, we always
• 50:45
  go to it's a long season. So we'll, we'll judge him at the
• 50:48
  end of the season essentially. And just going back to the
• 50:52
  British guy there, Elliott Giles, he was, he was last
• 50:54
  overall so wasn't a good event for him.
• 50:57
  The things they raced the 1500 meters first on the Saturday.
• 51:02
  So what LG was first there in a 358.04, Jess Hall was second in
• 51:09
  a 358.36 and Nikki Hilts of America was third in a 4 minutes
• 51:16
  flat .54. And we had Georgia Hunter Bell
• 51:19
  of Britain in 4th 400.85 and Abby Caldwell of Australia in
• 51:25
  fifth on her debut in a 401.54. So Jess was really in command of
• 51:32
  this race and she was kind of off the front pushing the pace
• 51:36
  and without she went with her and you could see it was out.
• 51:38
  It was going to be out of those two from like 3200 to go.
• 51:42
  They were just they weren't trading blow for blow.
• 51:45
  But without she was just following every move that Jess
• 51:47
  was making and Jess was making it really fast.
• 51:51
  So she managed to break the field minus without G.
• 51:54
  And then as they round off the 100 meters to go, you can see
• 51:57
  that Jess is she's still moving forwards and she's still like
• 52:02
  accelerating, but without she's just absolutely in cruise
• 52:05
  control and just kind of steps out half a yard and then change
• 52:09
  his gear and that was that. But yeah, really strong room for
• 52:12
  just that in 2nd. And it was interesting to see
• 52:15
  that Nikki Holtz was back in 3rd because she's kind of been a
• 52:20
  really strong performer in this discipline all year.
• 52:22
  So I mean, you can't stay at the peak of your fitness all the
• 52:25
  time. And if you end up finishing
• 52:27
  third because of that, then that's not a bad result at the
• 52:30
  end of the day, is it? And then yet Abbey Caldwell had
• 52:32
  a good run on her debut as a challenger in fifth.
• 52:35
  Then in 6th was Anderson Wiley of the US 7th, Mary Maura, who's
• 52:40
  kind of like the 800 meter specialist.
• 52:41
  So no surprise that she didn't manage to run a great race here.
• 52:46
  And then on the second day in the 800, again without, she won
• 52:49
  this in 158.9 for Georgia. Hunter Bell of Britain was
• 52:53
  second in a 158.99, so incredibly close there and Jess
• 52:58
  Hall was there in a 159.63. Abby Caldwell was also fourth in
• 53:03
  two flat .57. So then I if that's surprising,
• 53:07
  but in 800 you would expect potentially that's more of Abby
• 53:11
  speciality. So I guess it shows what a great
• 53:15
  run Jess has had there to run sub two minutes as well and what
• 53:18
  this done for the overall standings.
• 53:20
  Was it meant without she? Obviously she won both races.
• 53:23
  She's first overall. He's won by a mile in terms of
• 53:26
  the overall points tally. So she had 24 points because of
• 53:29
  her two wins. She gets 12 points per win.
• 53:32
  And second and third, it was really close.
• 53:35
  So Jess Hull as managers, second overall with 14 points.
• 53:39
  Georgia Bell was third overall with 13 points and Abby Caldwell
• 53:43
  was 4th overall with 9 points. So think that prize money goes
• 53:47
  100K50K35K25K potentially in U.S. dollars as well.
• 53:54
  So I'm just thinking about Abby Caldwell there.
• 53:56
  What a lovely payday that's been for her.
• 53:59
  And potentially, I don't know how far in advance they're
• 54:01
  getting the call up or they're arranging these things, but I
• 54:04
  can't imagine it's more than a month or so out.
• 54:06
  So if you say this time last month, Abby, you're going to
• 54:10
  earn what's 25 US like maybe 35 Aussie, then I'm sure she'd be
• 54:15
  incredibly happy with that. Finally, onto the distance
• 54:18
  event, which as I mentioned earlier was the five 5000 meters
• 54:22
  have dropped. So it was only the 3000 meters
• 54:24
  here. So in the women's, Agnes
• 54:26
  Negatich of Kenya won in 843.61, followed by tie 8 of Ethiopia in
• 54:34
  second in 843.7 and a third was just at Andrews of the US in
• 54:39
  844.7. So again, those times just show
• 54:43
  how much of A jog it is for a majority of these races because
• 54:46
  these girls are clearly capable of running a lot faster than
• 54:49
  that. But the race comes down to who
• 54:51
  can finish the quickest. And on the men's side, the
• 54:53
  things was won by the American former collegiate Nico Young in
• 54:58
  801.03. In second was Sam Gilman of the
• 55:02
  US in 801.7, third Kai Robinson of Australia in 801.92, fourth
• 55:08
  Andrew Koskaran of Ireland in 802.17.
• 55:12
  So this race was really interesting because Kai Robinson
• 55:15
  was in control for pretty much the entire entirety of the last
• 55:20
  lap from what I saw. He's on the front and they're
• 55:23
  all kind of trying to get past them, but he's he's pushing so
• 55:26
  hard that it's hard for people to make a move.
• 55:29
  Costume was there on his shoulder for a large majority of
• 55:32
  it. And you're thinking back to the
• 55:33
  previous meet where costume had like those ridiculous kick
• 55:37
  finishes and you're thinking, oh, if he's still there, he's
• 55:41
  going to be able to run him down.
• 55:42
  And then all of a sudden, as they pull off the final 100m
• 55:46
  corner, Nico Young just absolutely mashes the hammer
• 55:50
  down and just pulls away from them.
• 55:53
  So it was incredibly impressive. And what's of note here is the
• 55:57
  first six athletes in this race are all challenges.
• 56:01
  And yeah, Grant Fisher, there was a DNS so he's allowed Nico
• 56:05
  Young to come through and pick up some cash there.
• 56:08
  And not a bad payday for Kai Robinson back and 3rd either.
• 56:11
  So I'm sure those boys will be appreciative that Grant decided
• 56:14
  not to toe the start line on this instance.
• 56:17
  And that is a wrap for the Grand Slam track Philadelphia.
• 56:20
  And I think it. Also concludes the running news
• 56:22
  segments. All right, Dean, thanks for
• 56:25
  taking charge of the running news this week.
• 56:27
  Seen as I've been a little bit disengaged, I'm preoccupied, so
• 56:32
  we'll move on to our training weeks anyway, and I'll try not
• 56:35
  to waste too much time talking about masses that aren't
• 56:38
  training weeks, but here we go. So Monday I was obviously back
• 56:44
  in the UK, back at home now. And on Sunday I mentioned that I
• 56:48
  was going to watch Liverpool, which I unsuccessfully went to
• 56:52
  watch Liverpool, went over ticket, didn't work, didn't get
• 56:55
  in, got my money back thankfully.
• 56:57
  But then ended up just watching it in the pub with my uncle and
• 57:01
  drank way too many beers, but managed to still have a really
• 57:04
  good time celebrating. And like the whole city was just
• 57:07
  absolutely chaotic and bouncing. So it was, it was a really good
• 57:12
  special occasion. I guess everyone was like,
• 57:14
  you've just not you've never seen enough like felt anything
• 57:16
  like it because everyone's just like genuinely so incredibly
• 57:20
  happy. It's like utterly bizarre, which
• 57:23
  is quite ironic because then the next day, I don't know if this
• 57:26
  would have made the news as far as use when they've done the the
• 57:29
  trophy parade. Like the Liverpool team got on a
• 57:33
  bus and drove through the city and the streets were like
• 57:35
  absolutely packed again. I think they think around one
• 57:39
  and a half million people lined the streets and they had Calvin
• 57:42
  Harris on the bus DJ and so just looked absolutely humble.
• 57:47
  Maniac has got in his car and drove through a crowds of
• 57:52
  people. The stories a little bit blurred
• 57:56
  as to like why or the actual facts.
• 57:58
  But with social media, there's like plenty of footage of like
• 58:02
  kind of before and the actual moment it happens as well.
• 58:08
  So yeah, thankfully there's there was no fatalities, but
• 58:12
  very shit and into it all because he's literally came
• 58:15
  through it. I think like 27 people were
• 58:17
  injured. So it was, yeah, it was quite
• 58:20
  bizarre way to end like a very happy weekend for the whole
• 58:24
  city. What I did, actually, I seen
• 58:27
  Calvin Harris outside the stadium as well.
• 58:29
  I didn't message him, but when we were sitting there, we were
• 58:34
  sitting there trying to get in because we tried the ticket.
• 58:36
  It didn't work. And then the game had kicked off
• 58:39
  and we sat there on the wall because the guy was like
• 58:41
  supposedly sending more tickets through.
• 58:44
  So as with any sporting events, as soon as like, it starts
• 58:48
  outside of the stadium is just derelict, isn't it?
• 58:50
  Like there's no one around, everyone's inside.
• 58:52
  And then this guy walks past and I was looking at him and
• 58:55
  thought, that looks like Calvin Harris.
• 58:57
  And I shrugged it off and was like, Nah, he looks a bit too
• 59:00
  like, shabby, like needed to shave and looked a bit scruffy.
• 59:04
  And then the next day I see my mate who was in there has got
• 59:08
  this selfie with Calvin and Harris and the fellas wearing
• 59:10
  the exact same outfit. And I was like, Oh my God, could
• 59:13
  have just walked up to him like it was only me and him there.
• 59:16
  But that was funny. And then Tuesday I done a 90
• 59:23
  minute cycle, which is literally the only exercise I've done all
• 59:26
  week because Tuesday night I flew to Majorca for one of my
• 59:30
  friend's weddings. And then as you can imagine,
• 59:34
  there's just been way too much alcohol involved.
• 59:36
  So glad to take myself away from this.
• 59:39
  I mean, it was unbelievable weekend, holiday with like some
• 59:42
  of my closest friends. And that's why it just gets
• 59:45
  carried away. And the fact that I'm injured
• 59:47
  probably doesn't help because I'm, I'm probably thinking I
• 59:50
  will fuck it. Like, I've got no reason to be
• 59:52
  responsible right now. But yeah, got that one out my
• 59:55
  system, I guess. So there's literally nothing
• 59:58
  else to report. I've barely gone for a walk.
• 1:00:02
  I've done a few swims in the ocean.
• 1:00:04
  And I tried to do a set, I'd done a session on the bike the
• 1:00:07
  first day that I landed there because I was fresh.
• 1:00:10
  But then for context, after that goes down to the beach and like
• 1:00:15
  a few of the lads and their misses have started like
• 1:00:18
  arriving as well. So we're all there on the beach
• 1:00:22
  and they've gone the shop and got a load of tins and I'm like,
• 1:00:24
  all right, let me just go for like 1/2 an hour swim now just
• 1:00:28
  to top up my cycle session and at least start this holiday with
• 1:00:32
  something meaningful. And they genuinely wouldn't let
• 1:00:35
  me get in the ocean until I've had a beer first.
• 1:00:38
  So that's kind of how that went. The hail.
• 1:00:42
  It actually doesn't feel any different.
• 1:00:44
  Annoyingly, like it doesn't feel much better.
• 1:00:47
  And I'm really done any rehab. So I'm thinking I need to
• 1:00:51
  actually do my exercises this week and see where it leaves me
• 1:00:54
  next week. But that's it's three weeks of
• 1:00:56
  no running, like an no load on it now.
• 1:00:59
  So I'm kind of a bit pissed off. It doesn't feel any better.
• 1:01:02
  And I'm starting to think like, oh, well, given how I feel now
• 1:01:06
  after all the alcohol and all the food, what I'd love to do is
• 1:01:09
  just go outside and go for a run just to feel better.
• 1:01:13
  But I'm like, it's probably not wise because I need to just do
• 1:01:17
  the rehab and then see if it responds.
• 1:01:19
  So yeah, let's not waste any more time on my chaos.
• 1:01:23
  If we can you Sue can tell me about some of the training news
• 1:01:27
  have done. Just just a question, is there
• 1:01:30
  rehab exercises, are they meant to like like I know say if it's
• 1:01:36
  like your Achilles, some load through it is sometimes a
• 1:01:39
  helpful thing. Is it a bit similar for the
• 1:01:42
  plantar fascia? Is that is it a bit like you
• 1:01:44
  load it up a little bit? That might try and that might
• 1:01:48
  reduce your pain? So essentially it's a
• 1:01:50
  combination of a shit ton of calf strengthening and it
• 1:01:54
  sounds, sounds bizarre, but it's called toe yoga.
• 1:01:57
  So it's a lot of isolated toe movements.
• 1:02:01
  So like moving your big toe on its own and moving the rest of
• 1:02:04
  your foot on its own and clenching your toes and
• 1:02:07
  releasing your toes just to kind of get that pull through the the
• 1:02:11
  bottom of your foot essentially. And like tug on your planter
• 1:02:14
  without loading it. Like with the force going down
• 1:02:18
  through it, you pull the force laterally through it.
• 1:02:22
  So yeah, as you can imagine, whilst I'm sat there like 3 days
• 1:02:26
  into a bloody Bender, I'm not thinking about doing toy yoga.
• 1:02:29
  Yeah. So the goal for this week is to
• 1:02:33
  have some responsibility. You should definitely have
• 1:02:37
  rocked up to the beach when everyone's getting stuck in and
• 1:02:40
  started to do your exercise, rolled out your towel and
• 1:02:42
  started to do your exercises. That would have gone down very
• 1:02:45
  well. You know the I was wearing a
• 1:02:48
  pair of my Gouda sunglasses and they weren't received too well
• 1:02:53
  from a non running friends. Yeah, yeah.
• 1:02:57
  And do you think that like the shoes today, the way they're all
• 1:03:02
  like super soft and that has affected like the muscles in
• 1:03:08
  your feet that they're not getting worked as much as they
• 1:03:11
  would if you were wearing a more like solid shoe?
• 1:03:14
  Perhaps, yeah, perhaps you just become too soft to it all.
• 1:03:19
  And I know saying walking around barefoot, it sounds a little bit
• 1:03:23
  stupid, but that definitely impacts it massively.
• 1:03:27
  So like when I'm at home, I'll have a pair of indoor sliders
• 1:03:30
  and a pair of outdoor sliders. So when I'm in the house, I'm
• 1:03:33
  always wearing the thick stacked hocker slides.
• 1:03:36
  Whereas like when I've just been away there, that last week I was
• 1:03:39
  walking around the hotel barefoot and and noticed it
• 1:03:44
  getting more angry just off walking around barefoot, which
• 1:03:47
  is just bizarre. It shouldn't be so, so fragile
• 1:03:50
  to it, but it is. And then what didn't help is the
• 1:03:54
  past two days my ankles have like blown up massively.
• 1:03:58
  I think it's just my body telling me, like, what on earth
• 1:04:01
  are you doing? Like this is this is torture.
• 1:04:03
  Please stop there. Could there could be gout?
• 1:04:07
  So. It's a crystallization of urea.
• 1:04:18
  It's like a rich man's disease when you drink too much piss or
• 1:04:22
  you eat too much seafood. You can, you can suffer from it.
• 1:04:26
  I mean, it's normally shouldn't be affecting you, but I have
• 1:04:30
  heard of mates that have had big benders suffer from it.
• 1:04:32
  So, but you'd know, you'd, you, you would know if you jumped
• 1:04:36
  onto your toe joint and it was, it was gout.
• 1:04:39
  It's not that I'm just taking, taking the meat.
• 1:04:42
  Well, I mean, they've come down and actually, no, I can show you
• 1:04:44
  because it's still massive relatively to what it normally
• 1:04:48
  would be. They should be behind a paywall
• 1:04:50
  that's come. Down quite a lot at.
• 1:04:55
  Least people can't see this. They have.
• 1:04:57
  It's Fallen Jay. Wiz, what are you doing over
• 1:04:59
  there? Guys, one SEC it's raining
• 1:05:02
  outside in the Washington. OK, I said before that I didn't
• 1:05:08
  get here till late last night and that was because so we we
• 1:05:12
  left Majorca yesterday morning, flew at 745, landed in Barcelona
• 1:05:18
  half eight in the morning, picked up a car from the car
• 1:05:21
  hire place and driven at what is on paper a four and a half hour
• 1:05:27
  drive to Marseille. And it took 12 hours to get here
• 1:05:31
  because I couldn't physically drive because I was so tired.
• 1:05:34
  I could do half an hour and then I would start to fall asleep
• 1:05:38
  behind the wheel. So we stopped five times and I
• 1:05:41
  had to keep nap and do like half an hour or an hour and then fall
• 1:05:45
  asleep again. You couldn't just eat your way
• 1:05:47
  there. You didn't just get a heap of
• 1:05:49
  snacks and. I can't eat anymore, I'm going
• 1:05:53
  on a week long fast. I'm surprised you didn't just
• 1:05:56
  get an Uber, hey. Do they drive on the other side
• 1:05:59
  of the road? Yeah, correct.
• 1:06:01
  Oh man. Fair play.
• 1:06:03
  Which when you when you're so tired it's, it's hard to
• 1:06:08
  remember that, which makes it even more dangerous.
• 1:06:11
  I feel like when you're turning left, it's a real issue because
• 1:06:15
  you normally go to the first line, whereas you have to go
• 1:06:17
  like the second. Yeah, it's just really, really
• 1:06:19
  confusing. Yeah, once you're actually on
• 1:06:22
  the road, like driving straight or following the road or
• 1:06:24
  whatever, it's fine because you're just following the line
• 1:06:26
  of traffic and you're not really thinking, oh, I'm on the right
• 1:06:29
  hand side of the road, You're just in the flow.
• 1:06:32
  It's when you come out of a junction or something and your
• 1:06:34
  natural instinct is to just go to the left hand side of the
• 1:06:38
  road and then you see the car come and see after.
• 1:06:42
  They kind of snap the steering wheel pretty fast.
• 1:06:46
  All right, I'll tell. Tell us about your week.
• 1:06:49
  So Monday, unsurprisingly, just two jogs in and out of the
• 1:06:55
  office, so just the usual 40 minute commutes and then Tuesday
• 1:07:02
  run into the office, run to the track and we had broken miles.
• 1:07:08
  SO1K it was meant to be like just quicker than threshold, 400
• 1:07:13
  meters, VO two 200 meters stronger again, sort of cutting
• 1:07:16
  down to seconds per lap for each effort.
• 1:07:20
  But this is the last time. So Tom, the two Toms, Tom
• 1:07:23
  Moorecroft, Tom Cross and I think Kieran, they were all
• 1:07:26
  they're all gearing up to head over to Europe.
• 1:07:28
  This is their last Tuesday session.
• 1:07:30
  They fly I think today. And so they were and had Leonora
• 1:07:33
  this weekend. So they were looking at doing it
• 1:07:36
  quicker than what we normally do.
• 1:07:37
  I think when we do the K reps, we normally do them around 2:53
• 1:07:40
  to 2:55, but they want us to do them in 250.
• 1:07:44
  So I thought, oh, let's just hold on and see how we go.
• 1:07:49
  And so yeah, we did 4 by AK, averaging around 2:50 for the K,
• 1:07:53
  64 seconds for the 400, and then for the two hundreds, I just
• 1:07:57
  kept them at 32 seconds or maybe 31 seconds.
• 1:07:59
  I didn't really go too much quicker and yeah, it felt, look,
• 1:08:03
  I feel like I'm getting fitter again, which is nice.
• 1:08:05
  This was like my best Tuesday workout in a little while, which
• 1:08:08
  was good. It was really like hard like I
• 1:08:10
  find this is always the last thing to sort of come back where
• 1:08:14
  where I get, you know, where I feel fit again.
• 1:08:16
  But that's the quickest I've done those K reps in any any
• 1:08:20
  way, which was a good sign. And I didn't take a turn.
• 1:08:24
  I just sat in and held on and got it done, which was good.
• 1:08:27
  That's a solid session. Like you aren't moving there.
• 1:08:30
  Yeah, and, and like Tom Moorcroft in particular looked
• 1:08:34
  really comfortable. Like he was he, he literally
• 1:08:38
  took just about every Rep. I mean, Kieran chopped in for a
• 1:08:40
  bit. And Tom dropped in for a little
• 1:08:42
  bit, but yeah, Moorcroft was able to just sit and just turn
• 1:08:46
  all those out. And he was looking, he's looking
• 1:08:48
  really good. So he, I think they're heading,
• 1:08:50
  they may see you guys soon, right?
• 1:08:51
  They'll be over in, in the UK in a yeah in a couple of days and
• 1:08:55
  have a few races lined up. And I think he might run pretty
• 1:08:58
  well, hopefully. Is anyone asking you you're
• 1:09:02
  going to be taking the turn on the front or anything or they
• 1:09:05
  they none the wiser that you're not doing your fair share?
• 1:09:07
  Granny's pretty good. Granny sort of knows where I'm
• 1:09:10
  at, so he's like just sitting. Dino doesn't have to do
• 1:09:12
  anything. He's and to be fair, those guys
• 1:09:14
  are like, you've done enough of those reps for us.
• 1:09:17
  So it's they, they didn't mind, which is really nice.
• 1:09:19
  So yeah, that was pretty hard. And so, yeah, Max and I
• 1:09:22
  literally are just sitting in there getting towed along.
• 1:09:25
  But if it's a Thursday or Saturday session, we'll sort of
• 1:09:28
  do our bit. But yeah, that was all I had.
• 1:09:31
  It was probably a bit harder than what I would have liked to
• 1:09:33
  to have been because I still wasn't 100% well.
• 1:09:37
  So I felt pretty rough Wednesday and it was a pretty messy day,
• 1:09:41
  just quite busy with work and I was working from home looking
• 1:09:44
  after the kids, so I really didn't run much at all.
• 1:09:46
  I ran just under half an hour and that was it.
• 1:09:50
  But then Thursday, back on the double threshold, I was feeling
• 1:09:55
  it pretty rough. I think just from being a bit
• 1:09:58
  unwell and then pushing pretty hard on Tuesday.
• 1:10:01
  My heart rate, everything felt a bit rubbish and so I was a
• 1:10:04
  little bit slower on the Thursday morning for was it 3 by
• 1:10:09
  8 minutes. My heart rate was a bit higher
• 1:10:11
  than what it was last time and my pace was a bit slower.
• 1:10:13
  So I was wasn't enjoying it quite as much, but got it done.
• 1:10:18
  So yeah, it was about 7 1/2 KS in just over 3 1/2 minute K
• 1:10:21
  pace. So yeah, just this 3 by 8
• 1:10:24
  minutes with a one minute float just around like Munga.
• 1:10:27
  So jogged into, jogged to Munga, did this work out, jogged into
• 1:10:31
  the office and then jogged back there in the afternoon.
• 1:10:35
  And in the afternoon it was absolutely like pissing wet.
• 1:10:38
  It was pretty, pretty horrible weather wise, but there was a
• 1:10:41
  nice group of guys that were there which was good and we had
• 1:10:45
  the 1500 meter reps which you might have remembered we had
• 1:10:49
  done them. You know when you loop around
• 1:10:50
  the bowls club and then you jump back to the start finish line
• 1:10:54
  just because it's so dark now. We just did them around the the
• 1:10:58
  lake which was which was good. I think we averaged maybe like 3
• 1:11:03
  or 7 something like that for the, so it's 5 by 1500 meters
• 1:11:09
  with a 92nd slow jog recovery. And yeah, big group again, which
• 1:11:15
  was nice. So I didn't really see the front
• 1:11:18
  too much. I sort of just said stayed in
• 1:11:20
  and ticked it off. And this was my third sort of
• 1:11:22
  double threshold night and it, my legs actually felt better
• 1:11:26
  than what they had previous. So I feel like I'm sort of
• 1:11:28
  getting used to it now, which is good.
• 1:11:30
  And it's been fun. I'm enjoying doing like it's a
• 1:11:32
  big day. Like, by the time I ran home
• 1:11:33
  from the second threshold, I think it's like 35 to 4, like a
• 1:11:38
  pretty big day for me. So certainly pretty wrecked by
• 1:11:42
  the time I got home. And then Friday, just my usual,
• 1:11:45
  you know, commutes to and from the office.
• 1:11:47
  Sorry. Yeah.
• 1:11:48
  I was going to ask also, it's interesting that you noticed
• 1:11:51
  with your, your heart rate and your pace on the Thursday
• 1:11:55
  morning session, you'll probably start to pick up on these
• 1:11:59
  variabilities, won't you? And it'll be like a a midweek
• 1:12:03
  fatigue check almost because you can't you can't hide from it
• 1:12:07
  essentially because it is that double threshold you have to
• 1:12:10
  just a bad buyer and it'll come out how it comes out.
• 1:12:14
  But it'll tell you like kind of way from the last week of gas
• 1:12:18
  Vernon, you cumulative load. Yeah, sort of, yeah.
• 1:12:21
  At the minute I'm just trying to get all my workouts done and
• 1:12:24
  then if I can do a decent long run and then whatever I can do
• 1:12:28
  around that I can do. But yeah, it's always tricky.
• 1:12:32
  Like we're sort of going into winter, you can get a bit crook
• 1:12:34
  and all this sort of stuff. So you sort of want to do
• 1:12:37
  everything. Like I want to push my easy runs
• 1:12:39
  out and make sure I'm doing all my strides in gym and sauna.
• 1:12:43
  But you can't do everything, can you?
• 1:12:44
  So yeah, I'm still just trying to feel everything out before I
• 1:12:48
  sort of and work out my best routine, but I haven't quite got
• 1:12:52
  there just yet. And like you say, your heart
• 1:12:53
  rate's a bit of a giveaway if you're too tired.
• 1:12:57
  And then Friday we just had our hilly tempo.
• 1:13:00
  So yeah, 4K warm up. And then Max was there, so so he
• 1:13:06
  was sort of pushing the pace. And Luke Bates was running with
• 1:13:09
  us for the first half, so we just had two by 19 minutes hilly
• 1:13:13
  tempo with a 2 minute jog in between.
• 1:13:16
  And so you sort of do the 1st 19 minutes one way with the group
• 1:13:19
  jog, one, one minute one way and then turn around.
• 1:13:22
  And the idea is that you try and get back to where you started,
• 1:13:25
  which is always fun doing a group session that way because
• 1:13:27
  in the last five minutes you sort of everyone starts coming
• 1:13:30
  back together. And if you've judged your effort
• 1:13:32
  right, everyone should be finishing around the same spot.
• 1:13:35
  And so it just sort of makes it engaging because everyone's
• 1:13:37
  trying to, you know, keep in front of whoever's catching them
• 1:13:40
  or catch up to the person just in front of them, which was,
• 1:13:42
  which was, and I think Max, this might have been the first time
• 1:13:46
  Max and I had a Saturday morning together.
• 1:13:48
  And so he was, he was a bit up and about, which was good.
• 1:13:51
  So I basically just sat behind him for 40 minutes.
• 1:13:55
  It just wasn't the same, was it? It just wasn't the same as.
• 1:13:58
  What A has been. Yeah, he was he was pretty.
• 1:14:04
  He was pretty up and about. He's like, I love this stuff.
• 1:14:07
  I could do it for an hour and I was like, oh God, here we go.
• 1:14:11
  So I was just glad I survived. But yeah, it's it's always
• 1:14:16
  appreciated particularly. I hate those hilly tempos.
• 1:14:19
  So if ever there's someone that's prepared to sort of, you
• 1:14:22
  know, chop in for a bit, I really appreciate it.
• 1:14:25
  And that was Max. So good to tick off.
• 1:14:29
  When when you when you say you sat behind him for 40 minutes,
• 1:14:33
  was it actually 40 minutes or was it like 39?
• 1:14:36
  No, it's like 90. Envisaging you kicking him,
• 1:14:39
  kicking him away in the last minute.
• 1:14:44
  No, no, no, I was pretty. I was pretty well behaved, like
• 1:14:49
  is downhill on grass. I hate the grass too.
• 1:14:52
  So now if it was a like a Thursday workout maybe.
• 1:14:56
  But the tempo tempo is pretty good.
• 1:15:00
  There's that that way of doing it, like it is tough once you
• 1:15:03
  turn around and you might think maybe that 1st 19 was a little
• 1:15:08
  bit too much or if you turn into the hill straight away then
• 1:15:12
  obviously it's pretty tough. And you know, when I was doing
• 1:15:15
  it that there was always usually Owen on yourself behind me.
• 1:15:20
  And I'm just like, Oh no, I need to at least hold yous off for
• 1:15:24
  like a good 10 or 15 minutes just to like keep some respect.
• 1:15:30
  And you can just feel it coming. And that's when it's like tempo
• 1:15:33
  turns the threshold pretty. Quickly.
• 1:15:36
  I used to always push them too hard because I like I end up
• 1:15:40
  someone and just like reeling them in.
• 1:15:42
  So I'd always be like redlining the whole time and then.
• 1:15:47
  So, so it's fine. So we were, yeah, we were about
• 1:15:51
  7 or 8 seconds. Admittedly, the profile, we ran
• 1:15:54
  more downhill the second-half, but we were a lot quicker on
• 1:15:57
  this on the way back. And I think I explained to Max
• 1:16:00
  how it would go. But once he's, I think started
• 1:16:02
  to see all these people, he just, we were just just churning
• 1:16:06
  through them. And the first person we caught,
• 1:16:08
  you know, when you do like an introduction and you're like,
• 1:16:11
  there was the first new person down for their first session.
• 1:16:14
  And sure enough, about 8 minutes on the way back, like it's 40
• 1:16:17
  minutes of running. And then in about 28 minutes in,
• 1:16:19
  this is first person to be caught.
• 1:16:21
  And I don't think I don't know if he was having such a good
• 1:16:23
  time of it like his because he would have gone out all excited
• 1:16:26
  first session, make a make a name for himself and he just
• 1:16:29
  completely blown, blown to pieces in the in the hills.
• 1:16:32
  So I think he was suffering. And then, yeah, Max was just on
• 1:16:36
  one. We'd caught everyone.
• 1:16:38
  No, there was one person left to catch.
• 1:16:40
  And I think it had even turned 40 minutes, had ticked over and
• 1:16:43
  he's still basically trying to hunt him down like it's done.
• 1:16:47
  So what were your splits like on average?
• 1:16:50
  I think it was 3/21 for the 1st 19 minutes and then 313 for the
• 1:16:55
  2nd 19 minutes. That is.
• 1:16:58
  That is shifting in Kings Park, isn't it?
• 1:17:01
  It's getting up to old sort of levels, no?
• 1:17:05
  He's got a record though. We were maybe a bit quicker that
• 1:17:08
  day when you hurt your leg, wasn't it?
• 1:17:10
  We? Yeah, yeah, No.
• 1:17:12
  When you were trying to drop us up and down the hills.
• 1:17:16
  Look at. Me now.
• 1:17:20
  But yeah, but the same old, same old.
• 1:17:22
  So we we got it done, which was good.
• 1:17:26
  And yeah. And then this morning I met up
• 1:17:28
  with Joshie and we did two hours just looping around herdsmen.
• 1:17:33
  So he's been a bit under the weather, so he wasn't sure how
• 1:17:36
  far we'd go. So we just looping laps of of
• 1:17:39
  herdsmen And yeah, the time went pretty quick and I jogged home
• 1:17:43
  and that's my week. How many kilometers?
• 1:17:46
  What does that? What does that leave you with?
• 1:17:48
  148. Not bad.
• 1:17:51
  Very good. I'll quit.
• 1:17:55
  How many weeks out from Sydney are we?
• 1:17:57
  Or is it still up in the air? Yeah, I'm a little bit, I'm not
• 1:18:00
  sure on, on, on Sydney. My only thoughts are do I do 2
• 1:18:04
  marathon blocks to Valencia and does that?
• 1:18:08
  I don't know how all that sort of sits together because it's
• 1:18:11
  not that much time and I'm just going to push out for one block.
• 1:18:14
  I don't know. So I'm not sure.
• 1:18:16
  There is that 50K next weekend, so maybe the I'll do that and
• 1:18:20
  see how I go. There's a few people doing that
• 1:18:21
  which should be fun. Vlad, Vlad message me saying he
• 1:18:26
  might be keen to run together. And then I think Sota is is
• 1:18:31
  doing it and I've heard and, and, and I think he might be
• 1:18:38
  getting a bit of pace assistance I think as well.
• 1:18:42
  So so yeah, bit of a watch this watch, watch this space this
• 1:18:46
  good. So that that's next Saturday
• 1:18:48
  morning. I think I'm Carlos Michael
• 1:18:50
  pacing him. Just talk in and watch the party
• 1:18:53
  unfold. Yeah, hopefully.
• 1:18:55
  But yeah, good and back. I'll quickly like through my
• 1:18:59
  week. So I sort of have a plan in
• 1:19:02
  place. I've got six weeks of what I
• 1:19:04
  call fat camp. So I'm basically, yeah, just a
• 1:19:08
  six week block to try and like get back into some reasonable
• 1:19:12
  shape. So my Monday started off with a
• 1:19:15
  40 minute jog and then a few strides.
• 1:19:19
  So I've done 8 strides and then in the evening, I'm not doubling
• 1:19:23
  any of these days, just easing back into it, no.
• 1:19:27
  Easy double S. No easy double S Yeah, maybe,
• 1:19:30
  maybe next week. Tuesday I did my first bit of a
• 1:19:36
  session and I'd say 12 weeks. So it was actually pretty
• 1:19:39
  similar to you, Dean. It was 3 by 8 minutes, but I had
• 1:19:43
  like a 4 minute flow in between and I what were you doing your 8
• 1:19:48
  minutes and 3:30 did you say? Yeah, yeah.
• 1:19:52
  Just under, yeah. So my first one was like my
• 1:19:55
  first eight minute block, the average like 337.
• 1:19:58
  So like immediately for a lad who hasn't run much in 12 weeks,
• 1:20:02
  I was like, I'm not that fit. And then my floats were still.
• 1:20:07
  I was trying to float at like 4 at like 4 minute pace.
• 1:20:13
  Yep. What?
• 1:20:14
  What were you running this to? Were you doing this to heart
• 1:20:17
  rate or feel or what? What?
• 1:20:18
  How did you know what to? So I just had like a vague, like
• 1:20:23
  a vague #2 hit like to see what I'm at because I did take a
• 1:20:27
  lactate as well. So again, heart rate, yeah,
• 1:20:30
  heart rate. I wouldn't, didn't want to go
• 1:20:32
  above 170. OK, so after the first one, I'd
• 1:20:36
  done a lactate test and it was like 2.5 or something.
• 1:20:40
  So well, it's a bit high for the first one.
• 1:20:44
  That's. That's yeah, OK, Yeah, a little
• 1:20:47
  bit high, but not, not too bad. You'll see later on.
• 1:20:49
  And then the third one grand and the fourth one, then the lactate
• 1:20:54
  was 4.5 S Yeah, a bit high. And your heart rate at that
• 1:20:59
  fourth rate? I, I can't remember the heart
• 1:21:02
  rate, but I'd say I was creeping up mid one 70s.
• 1:21:05
  So it was just, it was over threshold anyway.
• 1:21:08
  Yeah. But like I didn't feel too bad.
• 1:21:12
  Like for my first session in 12 weeks, I was just surprised at
• 1:21:16
  how good it felt. Cool.
• 1:21:18
  So yeah, then I don't just within that, I don't like a 15
• 1:21:22
  minute. To the paces.
• 1:21:25
  On you, on your reps as you went 234 and got up to 4.5.
• 1:21:29
  The first one I averaged around 3:35 a kilometer, the second one
• 1:21:35
  I averaged around 4:45 a kilometer, and the third one was
• 1:21:39
  around 44345 a kilometer again. So yeah, not great, but I was
• 1:21:44
  just happy to actually run under a 4 minute kilometre again.
• 1:21:48
  It felt nice to be going somewhat fast then Wednesday.
• 1:21:53
  Isn't it that we even sorry as you, your first one was 337 but
• 1:21:59
  your lactate was good And then even as you've backed off the
• 1:22:02
  pace as the sessions gone on, your lactate has continued to
• 1:22:05
  build, hasn't it? Yeah, yeah, I think the floats
• 1:22:09
  are a bit hot as well, so I wasn't clearing it.
• 1:22:13
  So in future, like, maybe I'd like just like, do what you
• 1:22:16
  don't like the one minute flow of this, like basically just
• 1:22:19
  shuffling, yeah, just to let your body recover and all.
• 1:22:23
  But yeah, it wasn't the worst and it's not the best.
• 1:22:27
  The fact that you felt nice is a is a really good sign.
• 1:22:30
  And then it's just your Physiology just needs to evolve,
• 1:22:33
  right? Basically.
• 1:22:34
  Basically. Wednesday I just done a 50
• 1:22:38
  minute bike. I didn't run at all, I just let
• 1:22:40
  my legs recover. Thursday I done 50 minutes easy
• 1:22:45
  in the morning and then 88 seconds strides up a hill.
• 1:22:49
  Total that's like 11.9 kilometers And then in the
• 1:22:52
  evening I got a massage. So for the first couple of weeks
• 1:22:56
  I'm just going to get massages like every like week to second
• 1:22:58
  week week or second week just cause like it's a lot more load
• 1:23:03
  on the body and I just don't want to take any chance.
• 1:23:06
  Friday I took a total rest day. Saturday it was meant to be a
• 1:23:10
  double day but I had a concert in the evening so and I probably
• 1:23:13
  worked out better. Like I'm in no rush really to
• 1:23:17
  get fit so I may as well enjoy life while I'm not in serious
• 1:23:21
  training. But so Saturday's session was 6
• 1:23:25
  by it was The Lumineers. Indie band.
• 1:23:29
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're actually good.
• 1:23:31
  And actually his brother, his younger brother died on like
• 1:23:35
  Wednesday and he's still like, done the concerts, which was,
• 1:23:39
  yeah, crazy, but no really good. Maybe we'll when we do the show
• 1:23:43
  post we'll have Lumineers as the as the tune.
• 1:23:48
  Yeah, I do, I do, I do. Yeah, they've actually loads of
• 1:23:50
  good bangers. So Saturday this session was 6
• 1:23:55
  by 4 minutes with one minute flow.
• 1:23:59
  So 20 minute warm up, 20 minute cool down.
• 1:24:01
  And this one was a lot better. So the after the second Rep, my
• 1:24:08
  like my heart rate was bouncing around like 160 to 165.
• 1:24:13
  And after the second Rep I'd done the lactate test and it was
• 1:24:17
  2 millimol and then on the 6th Rep my lactate was 1.4 millimol.
• 1:24:23
  So that's a lot like the Rep was shorter, but so ideally you'd
• 1:24:29
  like to be running them a bit faster.
• 1:24:31
  But again, second session back it was a lot more positive than
• 1:24:36
  the than the Tuesday. After you've.
• 1:24:39
  Gone. Just after you've done a few of
• 1:24:41
  these lactate tests, it'd be good to talk about the lactate
• 1:24:44
  monitor. I don't know we can do it
• 1:24:45
  another night, but it'd be cool to get your get your thoughts
• 1:24:48
  and insights on it. Yeah, absolutely.
• 1:24:50
  My fingers are a bit sore from pricking them, but I won't be
• 1:24:53
  doing it every week to tell you that much.
• 1:24:56
  And then Sunday, this morning, I just done a 60 minute easy jog
• 1:25:01
  around where I'm from. It's a lot of greenfields.
• 1:25:03
  So there's this like sacred site.
• 1:25:06
  It's like years and years ago there was castles on it and
• 1:25:09
  whatever, but now it's just like a big open hilly grass area.
• 1:25:14
  It's called Hillatara if you ever want to look it up.
• 1:25:16
  But yeah, so I just jogged around that 12.5 kilometers,
• 1:25:20
  just literally cruising. So that's my week.
• 1:25:23
  Total mileage 66 kilometers. 66 kilometers.
• 1:25:27
  Sorry. So yeah, I'm slowly getting up
• 1:25:30
  there. Week 1 of fat camp done.
• 1:25:33
  So hopefully I'll be getting fitter from here on out.
• 1:25:37
  Love it, That's good. Can you include?
• 1:25:38
  Me in the program for fat camp. As I'm sure you can see on the
• 1:25:49
  on the stream, it's not just my ankles that are swollen.
• 1:25:57
  No, Yeah, good week. It's good to see you putting
• 1:26:01
  some weeks back together now. So that's two weeks of running
• 1:26:04
  in a row, isn't it? And you you're clearly feeling a
• 1:26:06
  lot better about it. Yeah, like sleeping better, like
• 1:26:09
  everything is just, I don't know, just feel better when
• 1:26:13
  you're moving more and. Did you did you get any needles
• 1:26:18
  or anything this week into your calf or are you doing anything
• 1:26:20
  more with that or you feel like it's OK?
• 1:26:23
  I'll consistently get them because it just will tighten up.
• 1:26:26
  So I'll leave next week and then the following week will get
• 1:26:29
  needle. So every second week I'll either
• 1:26:31
  get needles or a massage. So that is probably the plan
• 1:26:33
  going forward just on top of it. Well, I think we covered off
• 1:26:38
  YouTube Diaries earlier on, didn't we?
• 1:26:40
  Saw Elliott Giles takes the slot for that this week.
• 1:26:44
  I don't know if anyone has gone. Ivy YouTube.
• 1:26:49
  I actually do have a quick one. Jacob being a Britain, have we
• 1:26:53
  talked about him before his YouTube?
• 1:26:55
  Not properly, no. I think Dean, we, we have, we
• 1:26:57
  have mentioned it, but not. Like we didn't do YouTube.
• 1:27:01
  Guys, his most recent 1 is so, so good.
• 1:27:04
  So he's injured, so he's just cross training and the chap it's
• 1:27:08
  crazy. He so because he cross trains,
• 1:27:11
  he doesn't do anything easy. Everything is just like Max
• 1:27:14
  effort. So he does beyond elliptical and
• 1:27:16
  it's just like going so fast and he's the room set to a certain
• 1:27:20
  temperature and he wears a load of clothes.
• 1:27:23
  So he's literally just dripping in sweat.
• 1:27:26
  After half an hour, he gets off the elliptical, change his
• 1:27:28
  clothes, get back on, gets back on for as long as he can for
• 1:27:32
  let's say another 20 minutes, half an hour.
• 1:27:35
  And then he'll literally jump straight into his pool and do
• 1:27:38
  elliptical for like 1/2 an hour. And then he'll go and get
• 1:27:41
  treatment. And then that evening he'll do
• 1:27:44
  the same thing again, elliptical, Aqua jog.
• 1:27:46
  But he's he's just so, so funny. He's like, just give it a watch.
• 1:27:52
  It's crazy. It's give me a total different
• 1:27:54
  outlook on cross training, like what you can do because there is
• 1:27:57
  no impact. Like you can just go help for
• 1:27:58
  ladder. So now he's worried that he's
• 1:28:00
  going to be so, so like fit, but his legs will just have to like
• 1:28:04
  catch up. He's so funny, he's so good.
• 1:28:08
  He's, yeah, he's got quite a, he's got a bit of a like, dark
• 1:28:13
  sense of humor, doesn't he? So he's sort of like forever
• 1:28:16
  taking the piss sort of thing, but he's actually crazy.
• 1:28:19
  Yeah, yeah. He's so like, before this, I
• 1:28:22
  never would have thought he'd be the type of person he actually
• 1:28:25
  is. Like I tell he'd be so serious
• 1:28:27
  now, but he's he's just so funny, so good.
• 1:28:30
  Good, good shadow do. You think that the whole court
• 1:28:35
  case that happened with his dad and stuff has almost been like a
• 1:28:38
  weight lifted off his shoulders and now like, it's kind of out
• 1:28:42
  there. Everyone knows what's happened
• 1:28:43
  and stuff. He's just, he feels a bit more
• 1:28:46
  himself and he's able to like express himself.
• 1:28:49
  Or do you think he's he's always being this way, but now we're
• 1:28:52
  only just starting to see it through YouTube?
• 1:28:54
  I'd say like he has always been this way, but now that like he
• 1:28:58
  doesn't have his father like controlling him and like pulling
• 1:29:01
  the strings, like he's actually able to express himself more and
• 1:29:04
  like put like what he actually really is like, which is I think
• 1:29:08
  it's just way, way better. Like before, before like go on
• 1:29:14
  before like you would have like it was so you didn't know what
• 1:29:18
  was happening. Basically it was everything was
• 1:29:20
  behind a curtain and like you would have presumed like there
• 1:29:23
  would be like drugs involved or whatever.
• 1:29:26
  But now he's so open about his training and all, like you fully
• 1:29:28
  believe he's totally clean and he's just so transparent.
• 1:29:32
  That's my point. That's my like viewpoint anyway.
• 1:29:35
  Yeah, I got the sense that, I mean, I've always quite liked
• 1:29:39
  them. I don't really know why, because
• 1:29:41
  you didn't really know him formally, but I guess.
• 1:29:44
  I just was. Inspired by him probably, but
• 1:29:49
  from that I got the sense that a lot of people didn't like him in
• 1:29:52
  the same way, so I don't really know why why you wouldn't like
• 1:29:56
  him basically. I don't know.
• 1:29:58
  I think like at the start he would have came across as a bit
• 1:30:00
  arrogant and I don't know, like I think now he's just a normal
• 1:30:07
  guy. I don't know, it's weird.
• 1:30:09
  It's a relatable I guess, isn't it?
• 1:30:11
  Yeah, exactly. Before we finished, we did have
• 1:30:15
  a gaffe to correct from last week.
• 1:30:18
  So it seems like when we've read the results out from HBF, they
• 1:30:24
  weren't quite collaborated in the right order.
• 1:30:26
  I think maybe there's a couple of different waves and someone's
• 1:30:29
  got mixed into the wrong wave. So in the women's race, the
• 1:30:34
  winner was actually Lauren Ramsdon.
• 1:30:37
  So the Ramsdens, Lauren and Matt Ramsdon did get to do the double
• 1:30:41
  there, which I said that they didn't.
• 1:30:43
  So she's won in 4312. And also Matt Ramsdon broke his
• 1:30:48
  own course record there on that day as well.
• 1:30:51
  So thanks to Vicky from HBF for messaging in and letting us know
• 1:30:56
  about that when she wants to correct that.
• 1:30:59
  If you've ever any insurance enquiries just go to HBF.
• 1:31:05
  And we did get a suggestion from Susie McMahon on the back of
• 1:31:09
  last week's episode that Ryan Greenwood, Friends of the Stars
• 1:31:13
  could be a new segments. I mean, I'm not quite sure that
• 1:31:16
  news would allow allow it to be printed so favourably.
• 1:31:21
  To me it'd be more. Ryan.
• 1:31:24
  Greenwood the biggest pain in the arse.
• 1:31:29
  Friends of the Stars sits sits well with me.
• 1:31:31
  You own. Yeah, no, that's good.
• 1:31:33
  Or even Star of the Stars. Yeah, exactly.
• 1:31:37
  Tell us about your latest Ryan. Well, we've done it as Calvin
• 1:31:43
  Harris, wasn't it, I thought. I bet.
• 1:31:46
  Didn't Susie send you a send you a message?
• 1:31:49
  Oh, yeah. Then then she's been to the the
• 1:31:53
  FTK live show at Launceston this weekend, and she sent through a
• 1:31:57
  photo of herself with Brett and Joel.
• 1:31:59
  And she says Brett remembers you guys from Maragami.
• 1:32:03
  Now, what's interesting about that is remembers is very open.
• 1:32:07
  So I wonder what he remembers and what his actual opinion is.
• 1:32:12
  Probably remembers all that was astronomy chat telling us about
• 1:32:17
  the stars and the fact that they're due a tsunami or
• 1:32:20
  something like that. Cameras up, yeah.
• 1:32:24
  Japanese earthquakes, yeah, Yeah, but that's good.
• 1:32:29
  We'll take it, we'll take it, we'll just take it as book for
• 1:32:32
  what it is. That's all we can do.
• 1:32:35
  So, well, I mean, we've, we've said the the word FTK about five
• 1:32:39
  times this show. So if he if he remembers us and
• 1:32:42
  and he's interested that much and maybe listens to easy
• 1:32:45
  double, he might be kind enough to say the word easy double on
• 1:32:48
  FTK one week right then out double double trouble.
• 1:32:53
  Owen, did you have one or not? It's not really a double
• 1:32:56
  trouble, it's just something I stumbled across.
• 1:32:58
  So I'm sure a lot of people know about High Rocks.
• 1:33:03
  It's sort of taking over the world at the moment, but I'm not
• 1:33:08
  sure many people know High Rocks actually stands for or like what
• 1:33:12
  it's short for. And apparently it's short for
• 1:33:17
  hybrid rock star, which is I wasn't expecting that one.
• 1:33:23
  So to all you hybrid rock stars out there, Bond rocking.
• 1:33:30
  That's it. Well, there's a few professional
• 1:33:33
  hybrid rock stars as well, aren't they?
• 1:33:35
  Like. I just can't take it seriously.
• 1:33:37
  But now that we actually know what's hybrid rock star?
• 1:33:40
  We've we've already I think at some point offended hybrid rock
• 1:33:44
  stars in our short series of 15 episodes.
• 1:33:48
  So we'll just leave it at that, that that's their that's their
• 1:33:51
  official title for now and leave them be doing their 8 by 8K in
• 1:33:57
  their race. Yeah.
• 1:33:58
  Rock on. Which people rude it might be
• 1:34:01
  because I'm trying to drive on the left hand side of their
• 1:34:04
  right hand sided roads, but they're just not.
• 1:34:07
  They're not very accommodating or welcoming even in the street
• 1:34:10
  and stuff. They just maybe they they see me
• 1:34:12
  being English from so far away, I don't know.
• 1:34:15
  But not not like the beautiful Perth people have welcomed me
• 1:34:19
  with open arms. You don't look English with your
• 1:34:21
  nice tan so and you've sound French.
• 1:34:24
  Your French accent is like impeccable.
• 1:34:26
  So missing people. You must be running the
• 1:34:29
  Liverpool years or something like that all.
• 1:34:30
  Right then I reckon that's a wrap.
• 1:34:32
  We'll we'll go and catch lap 30 of the F1, although I think
• 1:34:36
  Owen's been watching it since Brundle's grid ball.
• 1:34:38
  It is actually lap 38 all. Right then.
• 1:34:44
  Cheers guys all. Right.
• 1:34:46
  See you mate, see you later.