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How Moms Can Transform Family Health with Katie Wells (Wellness Mama) · Non-Toxic Living

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  Our bodies are infinitely capable of healing. They're perfectly created and they are always on our side.
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  Your body is never attacking you. Your body is always working in your best interest.
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  And so if you're getting something that's a symptom or something that's not what you want,
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  that's a message and your body is clearly telling you either I need something I don't have
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  or I'm getting something I don't need. Many moms know more about nutrition, raising children,
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  how to raise children than any medical doctor, any professional. So moms, you are brilliant and
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  you don't need a medical degree to be brilliant. What is one of your favorite things to share with
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  people when they're trying to live a more non-toxic lifestyle? Anything we can do in our home to mimic
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  the natural environment of the outdoors is super high ROI. So obviously get morning sunlight outside.
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  That's amazing. But a simple tip is...
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  Katie, well I'm the show and as I was saying just a second ago it was hearts like yours
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  that inspired me to do what I'm doing. So you're one of my inspirations.
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  You're one of the individuals that I feel that brought true change to the world. You've always served
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  everyone, not just the elite that can afford to live a non-toxic lifestyle but you've
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  provided solutions for years with your valedictorian level brain which is true. Katie's a genius and
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  she serves and she lives the life as best she can. You're a mom of six children. If anyone knows
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  non-toxic living and the non-toxic lifestyle out of all my friends it's you and applying it. So
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  it's with great honor. I get to interview you today and we made it happen and I just want you
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  to share your story and then let's just mean you talk as friends. Amazing. Well thank you for
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  having me and you are an absolute inspiration and I love that you are speaking to the dads too
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  because I have long spoken to the moms and I know moms are an absolute force of nature
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  and have so much power to impart change but I think when we get the dads on board as well
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  and there's alignment and complementarity there I think that's where we're going to actually see
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  the big shift start happening. So it's an absolute honor to be here Warren. Yeah I mean that is
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  kind of neat like I didn't think about it. You're a wellness mom. Then I'm a non-toxic dad like
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  I didn't think about the king and the yang of relationship and a lot of moms use me as a tool
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  toward their husbands and then they say ah he's you know whatever and I mean I get you know he
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  doesn't have enough muscle mass to tell me what to do. It's interesting but you know we're just
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  both for good friends and we have our journeys. What led you to creating wellness mom? Like you
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  were already blogging it wasn't you were just doing it out of the during the blog era like you
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  were like one of the OGs helping people. So what made you start blogging? It's wild to think it's
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  almost 18 years ago now because my oldest is now an adult which is still mind-boggling but it was
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  perfect. I never thought I would end up in this world. It wasn't part of my plan and thankfully
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  God has better plans but two things happen simultaneously that led to what's now on this mama.
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  One is that after my first pregnancy I started having weird health symptoms that eventually led
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  on a long journey to find answers and then to find healing and at the same time I read I'm sure you've
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  read this as well this article. It was in Time magazine and it was talking about a study that for the
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  first time in two centuries the current generation of American children will have a shorter life
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  expectancy than their parents and that hit me so hard. I was holding this perfect tiny newborn
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  and I was reading these staggering statistics about how their generation was going to face
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  rapid rising rates of heart disease and cancer and autoimmunity and diabetes and of course we're
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  seeing that play out along with mental health issues on the rise and just across the board.
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  Kids having chronic conditions that were once only for the elderly like we're seeing that play out
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  and in that moment I resolved I wanted to somehow be part of the change of reversing that
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  and I had no idea how but that's when it became my mission and I'm so thankful it lined up with
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  my own health struggles because that led me into deep research when I couldn't find answers
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  in the medical world and it led me to the understanding that we're each our own primary health
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  care provider and while we can work with amazing doctors and that's great to do we're the ones in
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  the driver's seat and more the ones with the responsibility and as parents that's true for us with
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  our kids also and so it's been a long and beautiful journey I now no longer have Hashimoto's
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  I've fully recovered from all those things but the community that's developed that's what gives
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  me so much hope is the amazing moms and parents that are on this mission and the next generation
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  like these kids that are growing up right now are absolutely incredible and they give me so much hope
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  that we're going to actually see change here yeah I mean one of the things that I see and I'm
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  going to mention about your blog and you know how precious that is I'll say that first is what I
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  love about your blog is you actually do read the research you've written most of the articles by
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  hand this aren't AI generated like what's happening today and you put heart and soul and back
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  that everything you said you've had a lot of this stuff now medically reviewed for accuracy
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  like it's a really great resource which is beautiful you know so you you started this journey you
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  you've created this blog you created a really big impact doctor Google decided to destroy your
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  rankings at one point because this information became disinformation so we got censored with
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  research grade information and so now you have to buy your weight at the top if you want the top
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  so you need to be well-funded right who is the most well-funded and marketed markets best or
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  lies best according to who lies best wins unfortunately and that needs to change and so it has to
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  change has to happen with individuals so I'm just I'm blessed that we can continue to get this
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  this message out there and empower moms and now dads with this non toxic lifestyle non toxic
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  advantage a big part of what you do absolutely and you're right the online world has changed with
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  what our search results are but I also think it's still in beautiful ways still we're able to
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  reach moms and it actually is really pushing at us toward even more focus on community which I
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  think is a really beautiful thing because moms are still interested in these topics and the running
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  joke I think is actually true that a concerned mom will do better research than the FBI and I see
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  these women who for the sake of their children truly are like essentially getting an honorary medical
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  degree they are delving into the research and like I think despite the struggles from Google we're
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  still always we're wired to connect we're wired to learn and I think with moms driving that charge
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  we're still going to find the information we're still going to make the changes we just come on
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  yeah yeah so moms you are brilliant and you don't need a medical degree to be brilliant and
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  many moms know more about nutrition raising children how to raise children than any medical doctor
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  any professional so once again it's the powers in your hands learn from your great great grandmother
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  style of child rearing like we've lost all these all this ancient wisdom and I mean I don't
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  want to point a finger but a lot of the books that were written weren't written by moms they weren't
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  written by individuals over thousands of years learning how to create community and family we've
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  really hurt society some of the the movies that we watch like the Truman show or we can go down
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  the list and we're heading towards divergent you know or we're heading towards some of the horror
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  movies which always is scary I don't want to get conspiracy but it seems like a lot of the things
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  that happen the movies and this much be bright people that are connected that know what what could
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  happen but it's it's scary we're moving in a in a quickly into a direction if we don't do
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  something and people are standing up and I can get really fired up about it and so can you so
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  that being said you know what what what can moms do to break that statistic that horrible statistic
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  that our children with all the with all the diets with all the things that we now have all the
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  medicine all the all the brilliance technology they're not going to live as long as us and it's
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  getting worse and worse and the writing is on the wall what what can moms do to you know one to
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  protect their families and two to join you know the mission well I think if anything the internet
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  has proven that it was not lack of information that was the problem because now we have the
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  entirety of human knowledge literally in our fingertips and that hasn't shifted it but I think
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  it gives us the foundation to create that shift I think there's incredible power and a mother's
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  intuition which can't be quantified or scientifically studied or certainly sold by a pharmaceutical
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  company but I see so many women who are getting more in touch with that deep wisdom of motherhood
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  and like you talked about some of these traditional things that grandmothers have always known
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  we're seeing a return to those things but it's happening on the grassroots level like Google's
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  not going to lead us to that charge and I see kind of a divide happening I see the scientific
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  community discounts anything that's not double blind placebo controlled and you hear almost in
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  a satirical way about anecdotal data or anecdata or n of one studies and I like to turn that on
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  its head because having seen it in my own life the most valuable study you will ever do in your life
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  is the study of yourself that n of one study is the only one that's actually relevant to you scientific
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  data could say all the things and if you're the percentage of people that's an outlier that data
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  is irrelevant and so I think if each of us can step into the driver's seat of our own health and
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  accept both the responsibility and the incredible power that come with that for ourselves and while
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  they're young for our children and be willing to take the ownership of being the driver and being
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  our own primary health care provider because at the end of the day I firmly believe very few things
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  do I firmly believe and I will hang my hat this is a hill I will die on that our bodies are
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  infinitely capable appealing they're perfectly created and they are always on our side and I had
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  to learn this the hard way because I was given one of those words that comes with the term auto
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  immune disease and I was told your body is attacking itself you will always have this condition
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  all that language your body is never attacking you your body is always working in your best interest
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  and so if you're getting something that's a symptom or something that's not what you want
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  that's a message and your body is clearly telling you either I need something I don't have or I'm
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  getting something I don't need it's speaking to you so if we learn to speak that language for
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  ourselves for our children the body is infinitely capable of healing it is always on our side
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  and it's designed to do that so I think it's really just about learning to speak that language
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  getting out of our own way stepping back from the fear and being able to just do that study of
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  oneself that lets you find your variables because another thing I talk about a lot being in this
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  world for so long we all we see all these amazing voices and experts and they what the pattern
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  seems to be is and it happened to me too you figure out what works for you you feel better you
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  want to tell everyone because you want everyone to be able to feel better too yes the problem is you
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  figured out what works for you and the wisdom in it is for someone else to learn how to figure out
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  what works for them but we want to be able to just apply the blueprint give me the checklist give
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  me the spreadsheet tell me exactly what to take and it doesn't work like that it's not apples to
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  for us and someone else but the wisdom is in learning that framework learning how to do the study
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  of the variables and of course there's generalities and commonalities come into all humans like things we
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  can universally avoid and things that are universally beneficial but the beauty in the nuance is
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  beyond that and I think that's where we're seeing women sort of step into their intuition into
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  their power into their willingness to take responsibility and experiment and I think that's where
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  we're going to see change wow you nailed that that's a beautiful thank you that was a dissertation
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  on really summarizing and beautiful words vocabulary of almost like a poem of of healing
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  for women and for families and obviously after doing this for 18 years you really come to
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  the answer in my opinion intuition knowing don't listen to the lie it's not a triple blind study
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  listen to your hearts know that your body can heal that you're brilliant your powerful your healthy
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  your whole the mindset surrounding it getting excited and hopeful that when you're when you're
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  getting a symptom it's just you know it's something's working against you and you need to figure it
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  out like it is these variables this equation of healing you summed it up beautifully and if
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  there's some variables like we talked about there's things that are universally good and there's
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  some things that are universally bad I love talking about I'm heavy on the universally bad but I
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  you know I do the universally good it as well and after all the years 18 years you've been at
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  this the same amounts as me I started in late 2005 early 2006 right so there's very few people
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  at this conference that have been around that long some of the some of the OGs I've met some of
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  the doctors starting like 1995 and you know just beautiful souls but after all those years what are some
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  of the the variable bads the nasties that we should all avoid and what are some of the variable goods
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  we should all integrate such a good question and I've seen the trends I'm sure you have to and as
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  we've gotten more access to technology and research there's all the especially in the biohacking
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  world trends of all this fancy equipment and all these nuanced supplements and I think there's
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  a time and a place for all those things but if anything what these last 18 years have taught me
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  is a return to those kind of core universal basics like you talked about and the great part is
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  they're actually pretty simple I think we like got we over complicated it with the access to so
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  much information and we kind of got the idea that we had to be doing 10,000 things all the time
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  to be healthy and have I know I did I had a spreadsheet of supplements I was taking every day I was
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  doing all the things and what I've realized is we're humans meant to live in alignment with nature
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  and with each other and so all of the the categories of good and bad center on that core principle
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  like we are meant to exist in alignment with nature and with other people humans are nutrients
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  nature is nutrients and we lost that part we're living entirely indoors we're separated from
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  the rhythms of the light and being outside we're separated from proximal community with people
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  we're more technologically connected than we've ever been and more physically disconnected than we've
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  ever been and I think that's impacting our kids the most so yes we can talk about like the core
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  thing you would want to avoid in your diet and I think that's easily summed up in just anything that
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  leads to inflammation is better to avoid anything that nourishes the body is better to include
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  and then there's nuance within it for each person but for years I've said you know processed foods
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  in general just things like refined sugar vegetable oils food dyes etc and now those are all being
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  talked about so much which is great but I also have shifted the mindset around that because I
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  used to write blog posts literally titled how grains are killing you slowly and what I've learned
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  I think is that yes processed grains not ideal for the human body and having fear around that living
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  in the like it's killing me slowly mindset makes it worse for you just like as I was for a lot of
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  years I was doing on paper quote unquote all the perfect things and they didn't work until I shifted
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  my mindset because the body does it it needs to be in the right nervous system state to heal and
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  that was the part I missed for a long time so on the positive side I think the great news is
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  and especially relevant to moms is all of the universally beneficial things are either extremely
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  inexpensive or entirely free because it goes back to that being in the community with nature and with
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  people so I think if you dial in your light your sleep and then the foundational basics of just
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  nourishing your body that gets you 90% of the way there and what I love is when you know people
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  when the blue zone studies came out all the scientists were so excited and they were analyzing in
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  great detail what were they eating is it because they had a glass of wine every night is it because
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  they were vegetarian hint they weren't that was not the most common data or the like strongest
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  connection in those studies in those studies what they really highlighted was those people did
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  all those things in community yes they ate dinner slowly with people they loved yes they walked
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  every day with people they loved they ate with intention they were present I think so much of our
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  problems of modern existence could be mitigated a lot by simply learning to be present to be in
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  the moment that we are in with intention with love with connection with other people with rhythms
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  of the natural environment that'll get us 90% of the way there and then when we add on the more
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  fancy things and the new on supplements they're going to work better yeah I mean damn we are on
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  the same page and I and how you say it I mean it's it's beautiful again you just so beautiful like
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  you should be on every top podcast in the world screaming that message I mean and you've landed
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  on exactly where I've landed after all these years we've landed in the same place the further you
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  get away from nature that's it you know if you're going towards nature you're going to get healthy
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  if you're going away from nature you're going to get sick right process foods away from nature
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  seed oils away from nature right pressing an olive oil naturally that's that's nature right there's
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  ancient cultures and civilizations with all the marketing like that's been away from nature right
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  phones away from nature away from community and man it's it's where I've landed and even like on
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  this like we're doing this podcast before like with you and I'm like I'm getting energized because I
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  get I just we're connecting with hearts and it's not it's not laborious and I've done a lot of
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  podcasts on that this this weekend and I thought I will know it and there's like how do you do it
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  and I'm like well I'm I'm connecting heart energy with people that are amazing that have a message
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  to share and you know and giants you know like yourself that that have that have opened their
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  hearts up to the world and have seen that helium you've come to a really solid place with a message
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  and mission that is it is pure and right and necessary to pull humanity back out of the insanity
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  and back into the beauty of nature connection with God the divine you know each other like this is
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  it's not the sexy stuff it's not the three three toxic seed oils you can avoid and why and you know
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  I mean I do that stuff right right but it's not a product we can buy on Amazon or $197
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  thing that's going to solve your life it's the return to what we've always known as humans and
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  have forgotten that's beautifully said so surrounding this idea of non toxic living what is one of
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  your like favorite things to share with people when they're trying to live a more non toxic lifestyle
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  oh there's so many directions it could go I feel like you have done an amazing job of covering
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  so many practical tips like I watch your videos and get key takeaways I'm still learning from you
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  I would say really hone in on first if you want the highest ROI things
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  beware of the principle that yes we create our environment in our homes but our environment also
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  creates us so there's a direct feedback loop there so to the degree that you can modify the
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  environment in your home to be more in alignment with nature like we talked about yeah it's a
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  kind of very easy low effort way to start getting the benefits of that so this could be things like
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  my house is weird if you ever visit me we don't have a coffee table we have a mini trampoline
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  in the living room we have a climbing hang board in the kitchen the kids have gymnastics rings in
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  their room we put movement in our way every day so we are naturally doing it we do it too that's
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  I love that same thing with like we talked about light and how important that is yeah anything we
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  can do in our home to mimic the natural environment of the outdoors is super high ROI so obviously get
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  morning sunlight outside that's amazing but a simple tip is have the overhead lighting in your
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  home to be like daylight spectrum natural light bulbs that's bright that's going to be overhead
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  those kind of light cues are always meant to come from over our head and that signals sort of
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  the collect correct rhythms with light but that same principle means that after the sun goes down
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  we want to be only viewing amber and red light spectrums from eye level or below because that
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  mimics the sunset that mimics a campfire and that gives all the rights or Katie and cues to our
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  body to prepare for good sleep sleep of course is when we actually rest digest and heal so anything
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  we can do to support that so in my house that looks like right overhead lights and then lamps with
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  red bulbs to go on at sunset and I have very few absolute firm rules with my kids but we don't
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  do screens after sunset because I actually think that's one of the highest ROI things you can do
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  to improve your sleep and when you improve your sleep you improve everything that's amazing
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  like I just learned a ton there we have a trampoline too we have like all the things so funny
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  like I love that yeah we've integrated those are the high ROI things you know the lighting and
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  we do all overhead natural I have like 400 bulbs because they outlawed yeah let me do the LEDs so
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  if there's your like the greatest concern you have in the world today and if you could
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  have the ability to remove that concern emotional spiritual physical that's affecting this world
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  that deeply bothers you what would that be I would say so many people being in a state of fear
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  because I think when we're existing in a state of fear we've given up our power to make change
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  and also that is a stressful state for the body so it's not a state where we're optimally going to
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  heal it's not a state where we're optimally going to be able to think through positive change
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  it isn't a place of empowerment and I see that so much and it's obviously the the stance of
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  the media I went to journalism school I understand that you know what bleeds leads and all that
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  but I think we have the ability to shift that internally and that when we shift the internal we shift
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  the external reality of our world also so whether that's avoiding the mainstream news to avoid
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  that fear input whether that's approaching things with an empowerment based ability to create change
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  being in the driver seat versus if this is happening to me but this is happening for me even if
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  it for my case if it was Hashimoto's it was happening for me I learned amazing lessons from that
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  and I think all of us can look back in life and see perhaps hard times that we went through that
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  led to the most beautiful things in our life and we can in hindsight find gratitude for that I think
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  one of the most powerful hacks is to learn to shorten that curve until we can find gratitude in
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  the thing while we still think it's hard and I think that's where we actually can create the
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  most change is when we make that inner shift yeah I mean again like get this woman on every
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  podcast get her in front of the state senate I mean the the federal you know let's get you into
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  politics I mean but you're getting your beautiful your beautiful soul you're a warrior for moms and
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  dads around the world and I'm so honored to be able to share your message and mission today on
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  our podcast and now the important question people want to learn more if they don't if you don't
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  know about wellness mama how can they find you easiest place is just wellness mama calm the
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  podcast lives there links to all the articles are there all the 800 plus podcast episodes are
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  everything's there and it's all really focused on moms and families and and taking the science
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  and distilling it because I'm a nerd that loves to spend time reading PubMed but I realize most moms
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  either don't have time or are not interested in that so I always try to approach it if how can I
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  take this information and make it actionable and digestible and easy for moms because our
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  limited resources are time but we can give that power to moms that's when the world changes
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  that's beautiful thank you so much Katie I encourage everyone to go to to your website to learn
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  more from you you're one of the greats thanks again thank you
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  you