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- Lucas: Luna, I want to start with a number that caught my eye in a recent report from Maven Clinic. They found that only 27 percent of U.S. employers offer a fully gender-neutral parental leave policy. That means three out of four companies still tie leave to a binary notion of who gives birth and who doesn't. Luna: And that matters beyond fairness, right? I mean, the policy itself shapes who stays, who gets promoted, who even applies. Lucas: Exactly. And one company that decided to fix this is StellarTech — a mid-sized software firm with about 4,000 employees. They completely redesigned their parental leave in 2024, and I think the details are worth unpacking because they got specific. Lucas: Before the change, StellarTech had the standard U.S. setup: twelve weeks paid for the birthing parent, two weeks for the non-birthing parent. That's already better than the federal minimum, but it still sends a message about who 'primary caregiver' is supposed to be. Luna: And that two weeks for partners — that's almost performative. It doesn't give someone time to actually bond or share caregiving load. Lucas: Right. So StellarTech went to a single pool: sixteen weeks of fully paid leave for any employee who becomes a parent through birth, adoption, surrogacy, or foster placement. No distinction. And they added four additional weeks for the partner if the birthing parent has medical complications. Luna: The 'partner' language, I assume, is also gender-neutral? Not 'mother' and 'father'? Lucas: Completely. The policy uses 'parent' and 'partner' throughout. And here's a detail I love — they cover foster placement immediately, not after some waiting period. That's huge because foster kids often arrive with little notice. Luna: Honestly, if today's deep dive into StellarTech's thinking helps you see what a truly inclusive policy looks like, that's the kind of thing that makes this show worth a coffee. And if that's you, the link is buy me a coffee dot com slash fexingo. Really helps us keep these episodes ad-free and focused on the data. Lucas: Yeah, and we appreciate it. So, the interesting part is what happened after they rolled this out. StellarTech tracked retention of employees with children under five — and it went up 22 percent year-over-year. That's not just a feel-good number; that's a real cost saving. Luna: And the promotion rate? I read somewhere that women and non-binary employees saw a bump there too. Lucas: They did. Specifically, the promotion rate for women and non-binary employees who took parental leave within the first two years after the policy change increased by 14 percent compared to the prior cohort. Because they weren't penalized for taking the full leave. Luna: Which is the hidden problem with shorter partner leave — even if you use it, you're back fast, but you're also exhausted and your partner is still recovering. That doesn't set anyone up for a promotion. Lucas: Right. And StellarTech also added a 'reentry' program: every employee returning from parental leave gets a dedicated onboarding buddy for the first month back, a reduced meeting load, and an optional part-time schedule for four weeks at full pay. Luna: That's interesting because most companies just say 'your leave ends, you're back at full speed.' That reentry ramp seems critical for the retention numbers. Lucas: It is. And they didn't just change the HR handbook — they trained managers. Every people manager had to attend a 90-minute session on how to support employees before, during, and after leave. They covered things like how to handle handoffs, how to avoid unconscious bias about commitment, and how to discuss career progression while someone is on leave. Luna: Was there pushback? I imagine some managers felt this was too much, or that it would hurt productivity. Lucas: There was some. About 12 percent of managers initially expressed concern about coverage and workload. So StellarTech created a team-based coverage model — each department had a small pool of temporary project workers who could step in during leaves. That way the team wasn't left scrambling. Luna: So they solved the real operational friction. That's smart because the policy alone wouldn't have worked if managers felt abandoned. Lucas: Exactly. And the cost? The company estimated the total cost of the new policy at about 0.8 percent of payroll. But they also calculated that replacing an employee who leaves due to inadequate family support costs roughly 1.5 times their salary. So the retention improvement alone likely covered the cost. Luna: I've also seen research from the Center for American Progress that says replacing a mid-career employee can cost up to 200 percent of annual salary when you factor in recruitment, training, and lost productivity. So StellarTech's math is probably conservative. Lucas: And there's another angle here. StellarTech's workforce is about 35 percent women and 4 percent non-binary. After the policy change, applications from women and non-binary candidates for senior roles increased by 18 percent in the first year. The policy became a recruiting signal. Luna: Because when you announce a gender-neutral sixteen-week leave, you're telling the market that you see family as something that includes all kinds of structures. That's a powerful message in tech, where the talent pool is diverse. Lucas: And StellarTech didn't stop there. They also made the leave available to any employee who experiences a pregnancy loss — twelve weeks paid, regardless of gender or partner status. That's a policy almost no one talks about. Luna: I didn't know that. That's incredibly progressive. Miscarriage and pregnancy loss are hugely under-discussed in workplace policy. Lucas: It is. And it's not just about compassion — it's about retention. A 2023 study by the National Women's Law Center found that one in four women who experience pregnancy loss consider leaving their job because of lack of support. So StellarTech is proactively addressing that. Luna: What about the adoption and surrogacy piece? I know some companies cap adoption reimbursement or don't cover surrogacy at all. Lucas: StellarTech increased their adoption and surrogacy reimbursement from $10,000 to $25,000 per child, and they removed the requirement that the child be under 18. So if an employee adopts an older child from foster care, they still get the support. And they cover legal fees for surrogacy arrangements. Luna: That's a significant investment, especially for a mid-size company. But it aligns with the inclusivity goal — not everyone can give birth, and the policy shouldn't value those paths less. Lucas: Right. And the results are measurable. After two years, employee satisfaction scores related to 'work-life fit' increased by 15 points on their internal survey. And the percentage of employees who said they felt comfortable discussing family needs with their manager went from 54 percent to 78 percent. Luna: That comfort number is huge. If people don't feel safe even talking about their family situation, the policy is just words on a page. Lucas: Exactly. And StellarTech published all of this data internally and externally. They wanted to be transparent about what worked and what didn't. One thing they admitted didn't work as well: the part-time reentry schedule was underutilized in the first year — only 30 percent of returning parents took it. They think it's because people feared career penalty despite the policy. Luna: So the culture hadn't fully caught up yet. That's a lesson for other companies — you need to not only create the policy but actively model using it. If the CEO takes full leave, that sends a signal. Lucas: And StellarTech's CEO did exactly that — he took the full sixteen weeks when his second child was born, and he talked about it openly. He even handed off major projects and let his team run without him. That's the kind of top-down behavior that changes norms. Luna: So what would you say to a company that's listening and thinking, 'We can't afford this'? Lucas: I'd say run the math on turnover. If you lose one senior woman or non-binary employee every two years because of inadequate family leave, that's easily $200,000 to $300,000 in replacement costs. A sixteen-week policy for a mid-size company might cost $200,000 to $500,000 a year in direct salary coverage, but if it saves you just two or three departures, it pays for itself. Luna: And that's not counting the recruiting benefits, the engagement scores, the innovation that comes from a diverse workforce that feels supported. It's hard to put a dollar figure on that, but it's real. Lucas: Look, I think StellarTech's redesign isn't perfect — they're still working on the utilization gap — but it's one of the most thoughtful I've seen. They didn't just add weeks; they rebuilt the whole system around the idea that every family path is valid. Luna: I think that's the core takeaway. Not just 'offer more leave,' but design the policy so it doesn't penalize anyone for how they become a parent. That's the inclusive move. Lucas: And that's what we're covering on The Diversity Career Podcast — real examples of companies making equity concrete. Thanks for listening, and we'll be back next week with another case that challenges the default. Luna: Until then, keep asking the hard questions about who your policies actually serve.